@@nonono3141 I've only put 30k miles on mine. I don't have any performance mods on it, except a catback exhaust. So personally, I haven't faced any issues with reliability. What IS unreliable is the stock clutch. Around 250whp, the clutch starts to slip, and you need to replace it with a tighter one. But as far as the 1.5L engine goes. My peers have safely reached 300whp without issue. That's pretty much TypeR performance. A couple tuners in my area have told me that you won't really deal with any issues from the engine unless you try to put in a bigger turbo. Once you start exceeding 350whp, you need to rebuild the 1.5L with better components. So the SI is pretty safe and cheap to kit-out with bolt-ons, until you start trying to go for big turbo power.
@@nonono3141 Extremely reliable, I have over 70,000 miles on my 2018 Si, no mods to the engine or transmission, I've daily driven the car and take it to the track about 8-10 times a year. It gets better than 45mpg on the highway too, I can verify his 50mpg claim, the car really is that efficient!
@@danielbastos5126 lol bout the biggest lie u have ever said bro! A fwd can never never ever had the dynamics of a rwd besides the fact i have driven this turbo laggy bs. ‘Not a real SI at all
We already have motor build kits, cams, upgraded turbos, turbo inlets full suspension, bbks. What else do we need? Lol. Pretty good platform for only being around 4 years lol
I just got my built block from k20z3allmotor back.running smooth with je pistons, saenz perforamance rods, arp headbolts, boundary opg custom valvetrain and all the goodies as well as the kzcmc for faster shifting at high rpm
@@robertr9343 hey I have a 2021 sport hatchback civic 1.5 liter turbo now it’s automatic tho idrc for it i don’t mind that it is the thing is I kinda just want more horsepower in my vehicle not sure but can the sport get a kswap as well I’m tryna have one of the fastest 10th gens on the island that’s my true goal
I can see this gen really aging well for awhile. It's looks have so much character, and the aftermarket is always going to be there because it's Honda, as you said. More reasons for me to be glad to have this car in this video! :D
I agree! When it first came out, the looks immediately drew me in. This car has so much potential and it’s honestly looking like the last good Si depending on how the 11th Gen goes.
@@chrisung5290 Yes! I'll have to reserve my judgement of the new Si (and thus the general potential of looks of the new sedan overall) until it comes out. My current thoughts are the same as yours, that I think the 10th gen Si might be the last one with good looks. Maybe Honda will do a decent job on the 11th gen, and perhaps do some interesting things in any future gens
@@ayoubibourk8402 Nice! Part of me is sad they've stopped the coupe, but another is also a bit happy that this body style is a tad more rare now that it's much more limited 😁 I'm always extra happy to see another coupe on the roads (since I mainly see sedans or hatches by far)
@@animalpeeps you know what I’m saying bro I swear it looks like an exotic car when the exterior mod are done right and not extra I love the wing it comes with it’s all around a bad ass car mine is stock so far I’m getting some front support work done to it hopefully an inter cooler air intake and tune for now I heard small mods make big power what year do you have ?
I got a 2019 Si Coupe and it's my most favorite car I've ever owned. Put an intake an exhaust on it, got a KTuner and it's a completely different animal. I agree with the clutch weakness, that's one of the higher things on my list before a new turbo or building the engine.
@@iHykt you're hovering around 200 stock, and intake and exhaust may get you 10, a tune can get you another 30+ if you're lucky. Upgrade your intake system and turbo, add ethanol and you can get to 300 on the stock bottom end. I'm waiting to get a clutch upgrade now before I do a bigger turbo or get a custom tune.
@@beholder8467 that sounds like a fun ass daily to me man! Im definitely looking into one although I like the aesthetics more on my frs the Si sounds more fun to me considering I wanna be able to be quick on the road
I think you guys hit the nail on the head. I love my 10th gen si. It def is some of the best bang for your buck on the market at the moment. And yes, the aftermarket support is growing everyday. The only other Con I would mention is voiding the warranty, since these cars are relatively new and all. Subbed 🤙
These are absolutely incredible cars. When you drive one of these you can immediately tell it's a much more special Civic. It's quick, it's predictable, it has truly unbelievable handling, it does shit that it feels like it absolutely should not be able to do, even bone stock. But then even in fully stock form you can feel that it just wants more. Really an incredible vehicle for the price. Between this and the GR86, I'm sincerely elated that this ended up being my final choice. Source: Used to own a mostly stock 2018 FK7 (Civic Sport hatch, 6MT with just some Acuity upgrades for improved shifter feel) with 58k miles that I got from the dealership brand new with 2 miles, currently own a 2018 FC3 with 61k miles, with about 2500 miles being my own that I've put on since I picked it up two weeks ago. On a similar note, it's been an incredible experience to literally watch the aftermarket for this platform expand so vastly. It was BARE for a seemingly long time, but now--mind you we're freshly on 11th Gen as I write this--we have plug & play performance brakes (instead of having to hodge-podge from Accords, RSX's, yada yada), ten thousand different choices of FMIC, intakes, FP/DP/CB, BBKs, gear sets, aero, multiple choices for tuning/engine management... No shortage of choices for anything. Honda things. Thanks for the content.
My buddy today told me not to waste money on Type R engine swap. And to use the 1.5 and tune. But he said 290 to 300 is max for that block. Ty for this video I trust you
I’m so glad I own one of these cars. Super fun and practical. The gas mileage is insane and it’s a fun car for what it is. For new cars it’s not any for the price that you can get for what it offers. With just a tune it really wakes the car up.
Two different flavors. I have both (9th gen though), get the mustang too. My 18 gt a10 pp1 is way more fun at 100% than the civic si is at 100% but my 9th gen at 25-50% is way more fun than my gt pp1 at 25-50%. Get a gt mustang to double the fun:-)
So happy I wasn’t surprised with any of the cons but really the clutch is a weakness happy to say my stock clutch is going strong with bolt ons and the stage one tune
I just bought the race exhaust from you guys for my tenth gen si and im super hyped for it to come. I will definitely be coming back to this video when ever I scramble enough cash to upgrade my car further.
You can use the lpfp, hpfp (along with drilling out the fuel line to 5/64) and injectors from the 2.0T accord for a fuel upgrade. It needs a tune on ktuner tho.
@@migonzz 1 of the main reasons I went with an Si was mpg. I set the cruise at 80 back and forth to work, unless I hit traffic, and average 35mpg. Setting cruise at 70 nets me over 40. Mind you I live in southeast Louisiana which is basically at sea level and VERY flat.
@@migonzz had the cruise set at 70mph tonight and got 45.1 mpg. Keep in mind this is in southeast Louisiana where it is flat as a pancake at maybe 20' altitude.
I got a 2019 Si coupe and took a road trip of about 1200 miles there and back and averaged 43.6 mpg and a lot of the time I had cruise set to 80 85. The fuel mileage is amazing!!
I bought one in 18… did all the bolt ons with a flex tune… still hated it… I’m also coming from owning my first civic in the late 90s and having only driven modified honda since then… I was excited to try a factory turbo from honda…it makes for a decent daily…but there’s a bunch of things that made me decide to build another k series eg which I couldn’t be happier about…sold the 10th gen a couple months ago for 500 less then what I paid for it 3 years later… Lesson learned, the newer cars just don’t do it for me…🤷🏻♂️
I had a downpipe, Intake, intercooler making 270whp/294torque through a etune from pherable then dyno’d. Stock clutch lasted all the way to my 70k. Tuned since 15k with the mapperformance stage one. Then stage 2 then with the intake and downpipe from 30-45k. Clutch never slipped and I drove it hard, but never dropped the clutch, and always rev matched. I’m currently in the RCF platform which is a completely different animal after I got a much better job. Right out of college though I don’t think there’s much that beats a 10th gen si for that price point. I loved the community the most
@@kaleidoscope8914 nice. Did you ever WOT before 3:5k rpm when you were making 300wtq or were you aggressive with it and launched your car and all that?
@@ValkenDnB never launched, and I mostly did 3rd or 4th gear pulls for races, but even when I did race I never would never beat on it or no clutch or anything besides break boosting. I also changed the tranny oil every 25k to keep shifts smoother acuity stage 1 kit. Shift knob, bushings, pin and adapter
I’m 90% sure it’s the tune that matters, MAperformance tune is cool for stock, but they’re torque maps hits everything low which isn’t good for roll racing but fun for dailying. But pherable tune builds boost from 3krpms to 5.5k building to 28psi around 5200 then dropping to about 25 at 5.5 which is what helps the clutch not just get smacked with torque and gives it time to build ip
I loved my 2018 but after 25k miles (first car brand new off the lot), it started burning a quart of oil in between changes. I find that unacceptable for new cars, especially Hondas. Still love Honda, picked up an 8th gen SI and I've been having a bunch of fun with that 8k redline.
I just bought a 10th gen stock civic 6500 not abused stock clutch 114000 turbo is solid. Its a friendly buy I need some to talk to about this. It's silly.
Mishimoto short ram intake (for now) Perrin front mount strut brace Invidia Gemini exhaust Advan tires Acuity shifter bushings Mishimoto intercooler/(haven’t installed yet) charge pipping Acuity short throw shifter ( waiting for this to arrive.)
Guillermo, i have a 2018 Si coupe & all the exhaust piping from the turbo to the tips are alllll Maperformance. So is my intake & love everything about them. Great quality stuff by Maperformance
Great video. Would like to see GTI or Focus ST. See a lot of those on the street and they seem to rival the Si so it would be cool to learn about those cars in particular.
Thank you for making this. I've had my FC1 since Nov. of 2018 and I love it. Currently have the PRL Cobra (street), no flash or tune, stock clutch and have it lowered on the Swift Spec R lowering springs, on Konig Dekagrams and a 3" gReddy DD-R exhaust system that sounds like pure ricey magic. I also have the only Skunk2 part I've been able to find being their universal weighted shift knob lol. This is the 3rd Si I have owned and while it's not my favorite, as that spot is reserved for my beloved and bereaved EG, it is by far the most comfortable while still being fun version of the Si to date. This isn't really modding related, but there is a huge problem with the A/C systems in this generation. I've already had to replace the evaporator and compressor in just 35K miles. Its one of those things where i was used to driving the old beat and gutted Si's of old and finally had a car with proper A/C just to have it take two separate dumps on me. A lil frustrating when you live in SoCal where its hot all year lol. Otherwise my next mod is going to be a clutch/FP DP and Intercooler combo & I think I'm going to go with KTuner due to its accessibility. They have some heat soak and the stock intercoolers are a bit tiny to be all that effective. Looking at that gReddy. Anyone pick up the gReddy intercooler and have some feedback on its performance vs. the PRL/Mishi or if MAP makes their own?
From what I know the greddy intercooler uses a tube and fin type of design and has two sizes meanwhile all the other ones you named use bar and plate design and have one standard size. Each design have their own pro and con so it really depends on what you plan on using your car, be it drag racing, tracking, or just plain street driving.
Yes! I had replaced my Ac compressor at 6k miles. I realize my ac wasn’t working….They told me they had a version 2 because version 1 had issues with the heat somthing like that. They should make it as recall smh
@@ALASBEATZ Honda recently put out a recall on the entire ac systems. I think it was something like 10 year unlimited mile I got a piece of paper in the mail like a month ago about it.
I know this video was a year ago but right now they are going for at least 35000 because the dealerships are overcharging by 5k at least before other surcharges and taxes. so close to 40k here in NW Ohio. I don't consider that affordable anymore. Have to look for used ones and get them from private sellers.
I got the 10th gen Civic sport putting out 250 hp with no turbo and the automatic transmission has been modified to handle the horsepow the 10th gen Civic sports has the 2.0 L K20
Great video for me, was curious about what were the vitals of making sure this engine would be good and the drive train. And this answered all my questions!
@@maperformance true one thing I noticed thou soooooo many people own a scatpack and those videos don't do too well either maybe they don't need the power also don't know why those cars are everywhere now lol
They need to make a k24 Civic type-RS AWD Hatch. I don't like the 4-door hatch on their Type R. 4-door would be better for awd since it's a longer wheelbase front to back.
Idk when it happened but I just checked prices on these last week and I was seeing used 18/19 models with over 10k miles going for $29k. At that point a used or even new Veloster N is looking much better
Yeah I wouldn’t really invest a lot of money into the 1.5t, sure it’s a fun platform for a ktuner and intake setup but you’re looking at about 5k for 350whp. And that’s the most it can do on stock fueling. My speed3 can hit 330 on stock turbo lol.
To add to the cons list, the 1.5 also has oil consumption issues especially when modified, and the cam caps have issues coming loose between the 350-400 horse mark and destroying the head, and in some cases destroying it to the point where it drops a valve
With a simple flash I can promise you the reliability will not drop. There are bad batches out there but for the most part it's VERY reliable. I haven't had any issues what so ever and I've been flashed and modded and drive very aggressive for 3 years.
A 8-9. Like they said factory clutch might go out on you, but other than that anything else will most likely be related to neglect or complete abuse. If you maintain and take good care of the car you’ll be great though
9th Gen is common on the race track, but I've yet to enounter a 10th Si. Sucks cause I'm itching to pit my base 10th 6MT Civic against the 1 trick poney.
There was a discussion about this on the CivicX forums, and they found that it’s still significantly cheaper to buy and build an si up to stock type R power numbers than it is to buy a stock type R
Nah not really, especially since the type r gets marked up so damn much. Just a few mods and a good tune and you’re in type r range for much cheaper. Its a great value
I'm confused as to why we can't just put bigger injectors and a bigger fuel pump. Are there no parts available or is the technology difficult to work with?
Can the new integra with cvt be made faster? 😫 please I never learned stick my brother passed away before he could teach me I'm getting the new integra it's awesome
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49.8 MPG average on the highway.
The thing sips gas like a hybrid. But hauls ass like a sports car.
The Si 10 is an awesome car.
Is the 1.5L reliable?
@@nonono3141 I've only put 30k miles on mine.
I don't have any performance mods on it, except a catback exhaust. So personally, I haven't faced any issues with reliability.
What IS unreliable is the stock clutch.
Around 250whp, the clutch starts to slip, and you need to replace it with a tighter one. But as far as the 1.5L engine goes. My peers have safely reached 300whp without issue. That's pretty much TypeR performance.
A couple tuners in my area have told me that you won't really deal with any issues from the engine unless you try to put in a bigger turbo. Once you start exceeding 350whp, you need to rebuild the 1.5L with better components.
So the SI is pretty safe and cheap to kit-out with bolt-ons, until you start trying to go for big turbo power.
@@mariolawrence897 im on my stock clutch and make 252whp and 291Tq and my clutch hasn't slipped once....
Mitsubishi turbo upgrade, prl intercooler, tune hondata and upgrade clutch.
@@nonono3141 Extremely reliable, I have over 70,000 miles on my 2018 Si, no mods to the engine or transmission, I've daily driven the car and take it to the track about 8-10 times a year. It gets better than 45mpg on the highway too, I can verify his 50mpg claim, the car really is that efficient!
you guys really opened my eyes on the 10th gen Si, I had no idea how easy it is to make it hit 250 - 300. I love the videos, you guys are amazing!
Our pleasure!
Make sure all u want to do is go straight my friend.
@@gigi9467nah bro this car curves like a s2000. Its crazy
@@danielbastos5126 lol bout the biggest lie u have ever said bro! A fwd can never never ever had the dynamics of a rwd besides the fact i have driven this turbo laggy bs. ‘Not a real SI at all
@@gigi9467 i have one and I tell you this shit drives like crazy mate
We need more 10th gen civic parts
My Si is slow
We already have motor build kits, cams, upgraded turbos, turbo inlets full suspension, bbks. What else do we need? Lol. Pretty good platform for only being around 4 years lol
Somthing for gdi
I just got my built block from k20z3allmotor back.running smooth with je pistons, saenz perforamance rods, arp headbolts, boundary opg custom valvetrain and all the goodies as well as the kzcmc for faster shifting at high rpm
@@robertr9343 hey I have a 2021 sport hatchback civic 1.5 liter turbo now it’s automatic tho idrc for it i don’t mind that it is the thing is I kinda just want more horsepower in my vehicle not sure but can the sport get a kswap as well I’m tryna have one of the fastest 10th gens on the island that’s my true goal
I’ve been waiting so long for this 🙏🏾
Me too tbh. I'm waiting on the Ek9 Type R to be street legal here in the states. That's what I have my eyes on
I've been waiting for a V6
I’m saying
I can see this gen really aging well for awhile. It's looks have so much character, and the aftermarket is always going to be there because it's Honda, as you said. More reasons for me to be glad to have this car in this video! :D
I agree! When it first came out, the looks immediately drew me in. This car has so much potential and it’s honestly looking like the last good Si depending on how the 11th Gen goes.
@@chrisung5290 Yes! I'll have to reserve my judgement of the new Si (and thus the general potential of looks of the new sedan overall) until it comes out. My current thoughts are the same as yours, that I think the 10th gen Si might be the last one with good looks. Maybe Honda will do a decent job on the 11th gen, and perhaps do some interesting things in any future gens
I was lucky enough to get one before they all get scooped up since they stopped making the coupe so the price is boutta skyrocket
@@ayoubibourk8402 Nice! Part of me is sad they've stopped the coupe, but another is also a bit happy that this body style is a tad more rare now that it's much more limited 😁 I'm always extra happy to see another coupe on the roads (since I mainly see sedans or hatches by far)
@@animalpeeps you know what I’m saying bro I swear it looks like an exotic car when the exterior mod are done right and not extra I love the wing it comes with it’s all around a bad ass car mine is stock so far I’m getting some front support work done to it hopefully an inter cooler air intake and tune for now I heard small mods make big power what year do you have ?
Been running your guys intake for 2 years now. Also downpipe is almost a year on. Amazing still. I haven't gotten tired of it 😁
Glad you enjoy it!
I’ve been wanting to get their intake for my civic but I’ve heard it has problems with getting too hot, have you had any of those issues?
@@Milessss nah. It gets hot in the summer tine bit I have a mishimoto intercooler so it's fine. I trust them
@@chandlerboyer9154 okay nice, thanks for the reply
I got a 2019 Si Coupe and it's my most favorite car I've ever owned. Put an intake an exhaust on it, got a KTuner and it's a completely different animal. I agree with the clutch weakness, that's one of the higher things on my list before a new turbo or building the engine.
I plan on trading my frs for one of these Si’s how much whp you think you’ll make off just that bolt on and tune ?
@@iHykt you're hovering around 200 stock, and intake and exhaust may get you 10, a tune can get you another 30+ if you're lucky. Upgrade your intake system and turbo, add ethanol and you can get to 300 on the stock bottom end. I'm waiting to get a clutch upgrade now before I do a bigger turbo or get a custom tune.
@@beholder8467 that sounds like a fun ass daily to me man! Im definitely looking into one although I like the aesthetics more on my frs the Si sounds more fun to me considering I wanna be able to be quick on the road
@@beholder8467 that is correct 308hp fbo flex fuel 40%
I’ve had you guys intake for a couple months now, sounds amazing and ease of installation and maintenance was my top persuasion to purchase.
Great to hear! 🙌🏻
I think you guys hit the nail on the head. I love my 10th gen si. It def is some of the best bang for your buck on the market at the moment. And yes, the aftermarket support is growing everyday.
The only other Con I would mention is voiding the warranty, since these cars are relatively new and all. Subbed 🤙
Glad you enjoyed the video and agreed with some of our statements!
Lol I bought mine brand new and voided that shit a week later
These are absolutely incredible cars. When you drive one of these you can immediately tell it's a much more special Civic. It's quick, it's predictable, it has truly unbelievable handling, it does shit that it feels like it absolutely should not be able to do, even bone stock. But then even in fully stock form you can feel that it just wants more. Really an incredible vehicle for the price. Between this and the GR86, I'm sincerely elated that this ended up being my final choice.
Source: Used to own a mostly stock 2018 FK7 (Civic Sport hatch, 6MT with just some Acuity upgrades for improved shifter feel) with 58k miles that I got from the dealership brand new with 2 miles, currently own a 2018 FC3 with 61k miles, with about 2500 miles being my own that I've put on since I picked it up two weeks ago.
On a similar note, it's been an incredible experience to literally watch the aftermarket for this platform expand so vastly. It was BARE for a seemingly long time, but now--mind you we're freshly on 11th Gen as I write this--we have plug & play performance brakes (instead of having to hodge-podge from Accords, RSX's, yada yada), ten thousand different choices of FMIC, intakes, FP/DP/CB, BBKs, gear sets, aero, multiple choices for tuning/engine management... No shortage of choices for anything. Honda things.
Thanks for the content.
My buddy today told me not to waste money on Type R engine swap. And to use the 1.5 and tune. But he said 290 to 300 is max for that block. Ty for this video I trust you
I’m so glad I own one of these cars. Super fun and practical. The gas mileage is insane and it’s a fun car for what it is. For new cars it’s not any for the price that you can get for what it offers. With just a tune it really wakes the car up.
I am averaging 37 mpg!!!
@@redjones I’m getting 38.9. Tsp stage 1.5.
I almost got a Mustang, but I was coaxed into getting my 10th Gen. I honestly don't regret it- I love this car.
Two different flavors. I have both (9th gen though), get the mustang too. My 18 gt a10 pp1 is way more fun at 100% than the civic si is at 100% but my 9th gen at 25-50% is way more fun than my gt pp1 at 25-50%. Get a gt mustang to double the fun:-)
Most honest video I've seen on these cars. As an owner I can confirm everything they said was 100% accurate.
When he didn’t mention D series i saw the life leave Kyle’s eyes. Good video boys.
So happy I wasn’t surprised with any of the cons but really the clutch is a weakness happy to say my stock clutch is going strong with bolt ons and the stage one tune
Yeah I was confused when they were talking about the clutch.
Good drivers that don't abuse their cars can make the clutch last
Rev match
Don't do stupid burnouts every stoplight
Yeah dude. I’m at 72k miles with stock clutch. CAI, tune, & e-30.
I just bought the race exhaust from you guys for my tenth gen si and im super hyped for it to come. I will definitely be coming back to this video when ever I scramble enough cash to upgrade my car further.
The more I read about these cars, the more I want to get one!
Pros: you can make power reliably
Cons: a little too much and your engine and trans fall apart
Unlike the K series driverline, the L series driveline wasn't designed to be a "performance" set up
The con for the transmission actually impresses me more than it disappoints.
10:43 best part
These Si's have so much power potential being boosted, its insane. My Si with just an OTS tune, intake and intercooler rips!
We made over 550hp on the stock block!
@@maperformance Thats just crazy..
It's pretty easy blow up this engine. The parts are less beefy.
Not in our experience! We had to throw a ton of nitrous and boost at it before it blew up!
I honestly like the 1.5 it's quite reliable even when modded
I bought a 2020 Honda Civic si n I burned the clutch twice thanks for this video for confirming stock clutch is trash get rid of it
I keep the car near 250 with some bolt ons, this car is what it is, a nice commuter with some pep on various drives
My only issue with my si is fueling, hopefully you guys come out with options soon I think just a hpfp upgrade is enough for 400 on a blend
And injectors 📈
You can use the lpfp, hpfp (along with drilling out the fuel line to 5/64) and injectors from the 2.0T accord for a fuel upgrade. It needs a tune on ktuner tho.
Mine is a 2019 Coupe. I get 35mpg commuting at 80mph burning 87 octane. This is 120 miles/day. If I set the cruise at 70mph I get 40-42 mpg.
Holy hell, serious? That’s insane
@@migonzz 1 of the main reasons I went with an Si was mpg. I set the cruise at 80 back and forth to work, unless I hit traffic, and average 35mpg. Setting cruise at 70 nets me over 40. Mind you I live in southeast Louisiana which is basically at sea level and VERY flat.
@@scottgas1299 that’s awesome, and you get the fun advantage of the cars abilities
@@migonzz had the cruise set at 70mph tonight and got 45.1 mpg. Keep in mind this is in southeast Louisiana where it is flat as a pancake at maybe 20' altitude.
I got a 2019 Si coupe and took a road trip of about 1200 miles there and back and averaged 43.6 mpg and a lot of the time I had cruise set to 80 85. The fuel mileage is amazing!!
Happy owner of 2018 honda Si coupe. Thanks Maperformance got some parts from them
Right on!
Appreciate yall!
I have watched this video like twelve times. Love your vids, keep up the great work!
I bought one in 18… did all the bolt ons with a flex tune… still hated it…
I’m also coming from owning my first civic in the late 90s and having only driven modified honda since then… I was excited to try a factory turbo from honda…it makes for a decent daily…but there’s a bunch of things that made me decide to build another k series eg which I couldn’t be happier about…sold the 10th gen a couple months ago for 500 less then what I paid for it 3 years later…
Lesson learned, the newer cars just don’t do it for me…🤷🏻♂️
I had a downpipe, Intake, intercooler making 270whp/294torque through a etune from pherable then dyno’d. Stock clutch lasted all the way to my 70k. Tuned since 15k with the mapperformance stage one. Then stage 2 then with the intake and downpipe from 30-45k. Clutch never slipped and I drove it hard, but never dropped the clutch, and always rev matched. I’m currently in the RCF platform which is a completely different animal after I got a much better job. Right out of college though I don’t think there’s much that beats a 10th gen si for that price point. I loved the community the most
What year was your si? Crazy your clutch survived almost 300wtq
@@ValkenDnB 2017 first year . Bought it in 2019 from an auction with 11k miles for 20k. I work in finance and a dealer picked it up for me.
@@kaleidoscope8914 nice. Did you ever WOT before 3:5k rpm when you were making 300wtq or were you aggressive with it and launched your car and all that?
@@ValkenDnB never launched, and I mostly did 3rd or 4th gear pulls for races, but even when I did race I never would never beat on it or no clutch or anything besides break boosting. I also changed the tranny oil every 25k to keep shifts smoother acuity stage 1 kit. Shift knob, bushings, pin and adapter
I’m 90% sure it’s the tune that matters, MAperformance tune is cool for stock, but they’re torque maps hits everything low which isn’t good for roll racing but fun for dailying. But pherable tune builds boost from 3krpms to 5.5k building to 28psi around 5200 then dropping to about 25 at 5.5 which is what helps the clutch not just get smacked with torque and gives it time to build ip
I loved my 2018 but after 25k miles (first car brand new off the lot), it started burning a quart of oil in between changes. I find that unacceptable for new cars, especially Hondas. Still love Honda, picked up an 8th gen SI and I've been having a bunch of fun with that 8k redline.
I built and worked on Hondas for like 8-10 years. Every single one of them burned oil so I would say it’s very on brand.
Two doors are the only way to go!
Dudes with big red beards talking about my car. Love maperformance
I just bought a 10th gen stock civic 6500 not abused stock clutch 114000 turbo is solid. Its a friendly buy I need some to talk to about this. It's silly.
I looooooove my 10th gen and how cheap the parts are for good quality.
What have you done to your ride if you don’t mind me asking?
Mishimoto short ram intake (for now)
Perrin front mount strut brace
Invidia Gemini exhaust
Advan tires
Acuity shifter bushings
Mishimoto intercooler/(haven’t installed yet) charge pipping
Acuity short throw shifter ( waiting for this to arrive.)
Nothing for this car is cheap
Would definitely like to hear about the Type R since you guys have that as a shop project too.
Check this out! ua-cam.com/video/LomLfWnYvSw/v-deo.html
Chris lowpes build was my favourite with his 10th gen I have the same car and bought all the same mods
Glad I got a 9th gen,it has a real motor.....
A real motor? Please elaborate, didn't know there were non "real motors"...
@@technical6577 something with displacement,just making a joke about the 1.5
They literally make the same amount of power, what kind of power trip is this lmfao
Simps just look at hp numbers and they think they're smart lol they have no idea about long term reliability. Bottom line: 1.5L is a joke
@@GeronimoBiggles agree,and if you boost a k you'll have way more power than that baby thing ever could
Justice for @b00sted_brian
I have fixed this with a link to his channel in the description! Thank you for bringing this to my attention!
You guys are my go-to to buy parts when I’m buying new. Great video!
Guillermo, i have a 2018 Si coupe & all the exhaust piping from the turbo to the tips are alllll Maperformance. So is my intake & love everything about them. Great quality stuff by Maperformance
IVE BEEN WAITING ON THIS DEMON TIME GUYS
Love the video,I to have the 2020 Honda SI coupe,I’ve done no mods,wish I could
Leave.
@@Highlander1432 haterrrr 🔊🔊
I LOVE my 10th gen
Especially on D2s 😎
Thank you guys, got one recently and this is very well done
I just subscribed, this will be my go to video for my 2020 Si "carbon shooter" thanks guys and keep it up.
I'll be back
Love my girl! Pissed that Honda went strictly 4 door. I will be keeping her as a daily and looking for a 370!
Do the GTI!!
Great video. Would like to see GTI or Focus ST. See a lot of those on the street and they seem to rival the Si so it would be cool to learn about those cars in particular.
Noted!
Great video, I have a 10th Gen definitely will be modifying my car soon.
Go for it!
Thank you for making this. I've had my FC1 since Nov. of 2018 and I love it. Currently have the PRL Cobra (street), no flash or tune, stock clutch and have it lowered on the Swift Spec R lowering springs, on Konig Dekagrams and a 3" gReddy DD-R exhaust system that sounds like pure ricey magic. I also have the only Skunk2 part I've been able to find being their universal weighted shift knob lol.
This is the 3rd Si I have owned and while it's not my favorite, as that spot is reserved for my beloved and bereaved EG, it is by far the most comfortable while still being fun version of the Si to date.
This isn't really modding related, but there is a huge problem with the A/C systems in this generation. I've already had to replace the evaporator and compressor in just 35K miles. Its one of those things where i was used to driving the old beat and gutted Si's of old and finally had a car with proper A/C just to have it take two separate dumps on me. A lil frustrating when you live in SoCal where its hot all year lol.
Otherwise my next mod is going to be a clutch/FP DP and Intercooler combo & I think I'm going to go with KTuner due to its accessibility.
They have some heat soak and the stock intercoolers are a bit tiny to be all that effective. Looking at that gReddy. Anyone pick up the gReddy intercooler and have some feedback on its performance vs. the PRL/Mishi or if MAP makes their own?
From what I know the greddy intercooler uses a tube and fin type of design and has two sizes meanwhile all the other ones you named use bar and plate design and have one standard size. Each design have their own pro and con so it really depends on what you plan on using your car, be it drag racing, tracking, or just plain street driving.
Yes! I had replaced my Ac compressor at 6k miles. I realize my ac wasn’t working….They told me they had a version 2 because version 1 had issues with the heat somthing like that. They should make it as recall smh
@@ALASBEATZ Honda recently put out a recall on the entire ac systems. I think it was something like 10 year unlimited mile I got a piece of paper in the mail like a month ago about it.
@@jacobbrown2289 I also got that.. good on them for reconizing it
I know this video was a year ago but right now they are going for at least 35000 because the dealerships are overcharging by 5k at least before other surcharges and taxes. so close to 40k here in NW Ohio. I don't consider that affordable anymore. Have to look for used ones and get them from private sellers.
Wish my 10th Gen Si had the 2.0t 🤕
@49ers Empire k24 is nice too
I got the 10th gen Civic sport putting out 250 hp with no turbo and the automatic transmission has been modified to handle the horsepow the 10th gen Civic sports has the 2.0 L K20
Hey my blue 10thgen Civic looks good 🤤🤤🤤
Bought mine brand new in 2018, I love it, doubt I’ll ever sell it
We got a lifer! 🙌🏻
Lmao that’s how I feel I wanna
Mod it when it’s paid off
im built engine and ppg trans while paying offf🤟🤟🤟
can't wait for the 2022 Si! Great vid guys!
2023 si
Used with a lot of miles maybe find for that price. That's MSRP you listed. Add 10k to that.
Mine basically stock running about 80 mph it'll get between 35 to 40 mpg.
Thanks for the informative video. Please do a similar one for the 11th gen Civic SI
Noted!
Very trusted compamy. Maperformance
Surprised they didn’t mention head gaskets
picking up an Si once i get these next two checks 🤘🏼
Everyone told me these are junk because of oil dilution, looks fine to me.
Thanks guys
You guys say it best i have no objections perfect
Great video for me, was curious about what were the vitals of making sure this engine would be good and the drive train. And this answered all my questions!
We try to be as comprehensive as possible for viewers like you!
These guys talking about 400 hp... I was too scared to tune mine to 230/240 hp haha
I have a 2017 Coupe. I'm in low earth orbit on the outer belt heading to work and I still get 40 mpg highway.
So a video on gtr does little views but the civic si does way more lol it even happens on other car channels it's nuts.
More accessible platform means more people can enjoy it! Not everyone can own a GTR but almost anyone can afford a Civic Si!
@@maperformance true one thing I noticed thou soooooo many people own a scatpack and those videos don't do too well either maybe they don't need the power also don't know why those cars are everywhere now lol
What about the Sport sedan? I try finding parts for mine but it always shows me Si and Type R parts -_-
Trying to tell me about 10th gen civics and here I am trying you figure out how you cloned Daelen
I wanna see these guys more
What about the 10th gen EX-T that supposedly has the same engine?
They need to make a k24 Civic type-RS AWD Hatch. I don't like the 4-door hatch on their Type R. 4-door would be better for awd since it's a longer wheelbase front to back.
True… the SI clutch is horrible…
I love my 2020 si in white :)
Awesome vid !!!!
2017 Civic Si on 2.5 Ktuner Flex Fuel runs like a champ! 😈
ZZtop knows what time it is.
You guys forgot to mention the blown head gasket mod.
Idk when it happened but I just checked prices on these last week and I was seeing used 18/19 models with over 10k miles going for $29k. At that point a used or even new Veloster N is looking much better
I bought mine new in 2018 for $25k. It’s crazy they are going for more than I bought it for lol.
Chip shortage+ lack of new dealer inventory=High prices in used car market.
Best time to sell
Got to see you guys run your shop car at rockfalls. Very cool
Yeah I wouldn’t really invest a lot of money into the 1.5t, sure it’s a fun platform for a ktuner and intake setup but you’re looking at about 5k for 350whp. And that’s the most it can do on stock fueling. My speed3 can hit 330 on stock turbo lol.
Your "speed3" is gonna torque steer into a fucking ditch
@@Highlander1432 nah torque steer doesn't really happen till like 400+
Do an update bud on built motor
Hey if it can get 250 WHP, I think the Civics would surpass loads of vehicles with its power to weight ratio.
very true!
Lol...are those dudes twins🤣
How about a video on the sport touring.. you know us guys who couldn't afford the SI🤔
To add to the cons list, the 1.5 also has oil consumption issues especially when modified, and the cam caps have issues coming loose between the 350-400 horse mark and destroying the head, and in some cases destroying it to the point where it drops a valve
Nonsense
Those aren't cons...those are you pushing the car past its limits there is a difference
I own a 2019 si. Love it. The clutch and intercooler is trash af tho.
Can you guys do a video on the Lexus with the V6 2gr-fse. Any upgrades? I love this engine and want more from it.
On the scale of 1-10 how reliable would you guys say these cars are on a simple flash tune with bolt ons?
With a simple flash I can promise you the reliability will not drop. There are bad batches out there but for the most part it's VERY reliable. I haven't had any issues what so ever and I've been flashed and modded and drive very aggressive for 3 years.
A 8-9. Like they said factory clutch might go out on you, but other than that anything else will most likely be related to neglect or complete abuse. If you maintain and take good care of the car you’ll be great though
Any car does immediately with mods...
The 10th gen honda civic sport 2.0L sedan
9th gen civic
9th Gen is common on the race track, but I've yet to enounter a 10th Si. Sucks cause I'm itching to pit my base 10th 6MT Civic against the 1 trick poney.
For the amount of money you spend modifying the SI I might as well get type R
There was a discussion about this on the CivicX forums, and they found that it’s still significantly cheaper to buy and build an si up to stock type R power numbers than it is to buy a stock type R
Nah not really, especially since the type r gets marked up so damn much. Just a few mods and a good tune and you’re in type r range for much cheaper. Its a great value
How much horsepower can the stock 1.5t handle?
I'm confused as to why we can't just put bigger injectors and a bigger fuel pump. Are there no parts available or is the technology difficult to work with?
Can the new integra with cvt be made faster? 😫 please I never learned stick my brother passed away before he could teach me I'm getting the new integra it's awesome