CARMINE PERSICO ORDERS GREG SCARPA'S NEMESIS TO MURDER A PROSECUTOR! - THE "JOE WAVERLY" STORY!
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- Опубліковано 11 тра 2021
- Colombo Family Boss, Carmine Persico, wanted a Federal Prosecutor dead. He entrusted this task to the fearsome Joel "Joe Waverly" Cacace. A man who had traded shots with Greg Scarpa, survived several assassination attempts and been involved in the death of 2 NYPD Officers.
This American Mafia Documentary tells of Joe Waverly's involvement in the plot to assassinate William Aronwald, a Federal Prosecutor.
This Cosa Nostra Story features mobsters from Mafia history including Anthony Casso, Larry Mazza, Greg Scarpa, Fat Tony Salerno, Tony Corallo, Vic Amuso, Vic Orena, Allie Boy Persico and more characters from across New York's Five Families.
Making a man eat his own testicle before killing him, that's nuts.
Yeah I thought that was a bit much 🤣🤣🤣
Larry Mazza told me that everyone was scared of Charles Panarella! It's not hard to see why!
Literally nuts 😂
Pretty common, to stuff that in the victim's mouth; it's a Sicilian message.
Joe Colombo father had that done to him after he was caught fooling around with a made guy's wife (this was years before his son became Boss).
@@sallobo777 It maybe some what common to stuff money into someones mouth, fire crackers, cutt the tongue out.. but i never heard of a guy making another guy eat...EAT his own pelota bro.. Thats not very "common" the question is was it common for Panarella too do?! lol I bet wise guys thought twice about crossing that guy... especially if that was "his thing"..
Finally a guy who put in violent work, survived multiple assination attempts, didnt snitch, got a 20 year sentence in his 60s which should have been the end of him but now he is out and if he wanted to be boss of what is left of the Colombos the job would be is.
Not a life that I would want to live
Nahh maan, cacace is a solid guy, a real gangster... one of few, but Teddy and the guys are still in power and I don’t agree with the boss stuff
@@jorikajorika yeah hes 2 old if he tried 2 take over he would be whacked
Its either joe waverly or Teddy persico jr to run the game
Finally!
Joe waverly is very cool under pressure. How he survives those attempts against his life are like something from a Hollywood movie, especially the one in the car. Another really good video.
Thanks again pal. Glad you enjoyed it.
He literally lived the Hollywood movie life
@@OCSHORTZ I love how in gaspipes ridiculous biography he goes on and on about how he hates rapists and than his own mentor was a convicted gang rapist. What an asshole
Now hes out of jail.
Yes, my father in law is a cool dude!
Only 3 podcasts I watch on the mafia. Sammy the bulls podcast. The darkness underneath podcast and oc Shortz. This is up there with the first two. Always brilliantly done. 👍👍👍👍👍
Many thanks Haydn - that is very kind of you to say. They both do excellent work.
I definitely agree. Been waiting for a UA-cam channel like this to come around for years. The duration of them is always spot on.
This is my favourite but Mobfax is a cool channel
I don’t know The Darkness Underneath - will have to check that one out. And yeah, MobFax has some awesome footage
@@paulfleury1884 I'm a mobfax fan too. Love the actual footage
If you’re watching these videos you already know the players. These stories make it so damn good. Awesome channel.
Thanks mate. Comments like yours make doing this worthwhile. Thank you.
As super-deadly as Waverly was, and boy this guy was deadly, and capable of killing anyone, but taking out a Federal prosecutor was in fact insane. Great info in this video and one of the best channels on this subject of the mob!
Many thanks for this comment. Hearing things like this make doing worthwhile, thank you.
Great video OG SHORTZ😎, plz keep them coming brother🖤!!!
Will do Freddy. Thank you.
Another awesome video!! Joe Waverly was a vicious vicious man
Thank you Chad. A great character to discuss that's for sure.
Right on another great video keep them coming 👍
Thank you Jonas
I'm Rocking with ya,That was a great story,About hoods,I've never heard of,till tonight. Thanks for dropping off that knowledge with us,OC!
We ALL appreciate TF outta you,Roadie! **SALUTE**
Thank you Jed, I appreciate yours and everyone else's support with the channel.
Another great video. Keep em coming. 👍
Thank you again Bill! Your support is really appreciated.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍...These shortz never disappoint. Another fascinating story.🐱✌
Thank you Scott.
@@OCSHORTZ 👍
yours is the only channel i've ever subscribed to. if it's possible, your reporting has only gotten more concise.
Thank you Walt.
Great coverage of an amazing story
Thanks Bud. Hope you are well pal.
Excellent video, with some really good content. Also, reaching out to Larry for the proper pronunciation of Cacace was a good choice as it was spot on. Besides being a great guy, Larry is a good source. Your channel just keeps getting better.
Thank you Peter. Handy to have Larry to help out on these things!
@@OCSHORTZ Yes he is, especially when you have pain in the ass viewers like myself who bust balls over proper pronunciation. Lol.
@@petermiller1565 😂 😂 😂 I encourage the ball breaking! I need to learn to get the names right so I welcome it! 😂 😂
It’s Kuh kah che
@@Owyourhurtingme Uhhh, actually that’s not how Joe Cacace pronounced it, he pronounced it Kuh-case. In the United States, Italian surnames ending in “ace” are almost always pronounce ace (like the ace of spades), not ochi. That being said I always defer to how the particular person in question pronounces it, and Joe Waverly Cacace pronounced it “ace”.
Always thought his name was pronounced Kuh-Kah-Chee but I’ll definitely take Larry’s word for it. Great vid as usual.
It was one of the options that I thought as well to be honest pal. I believe that the traditional European Italian pronunciation is similar to the one you have outlined. There is an Italian footballer with the same name and that is how his is pronounced.
Yeah, I think standard Italian would be ka-KA-che or something similar. Southern Italian dialect might be something like ka-kach? I believe in Naples they tend to drop the last vowel sound, and in Sicily to some extent, though not as much as Naples. If you watch Joe Valachi’s extended testimony footage on MobFax’s channel, he drops the vowel on the end of every single Italian word. Masseria becomes Masseri, Maranzano becomes Maranzan. You can hear it completely throwing the congressmen who are questioning him, because they want to say the names with the vowel, but they also want to say it “correctly” like him, so they stumble and sound confused 😂. But any way, let’s go with Mazza’s “suitcase” pronunciation on this one as he knew the guy
Your pronunciation is actually correct
@@OCSHORTZ you have it right . It’s Ka - Case . I know .
@@tomasmccarthy3060 thank you.
Love these videos
Thank you Jesse. Enjoy your weekend.
gold as always bud keep it up
Thanks again pal. Your support is appreciated mate.
I was in FCI-Tucson w/ Joel “Joe”…they pronounced his name Cah-Kay-See. We never asked and he never mentioned…I guess we assumed it was correct. He’s a good dude… he never gave me anything extra but I can tell you I wasn’t ever without…not with him around. Not to say we were best friends but I spent many hours at his table, in his cell, not knowing who he really was…just chatting. He never came out of his cell, really….for chow, if it was something good…or, visitation. Every once in awhile for a little sun on the rec yard. I’m only saying this to say you would’ve never known he was a badass unless you KNEW he was a badass. Maybe that’s why he liked me, I didn’t know who he was and frankly didn’t care. We were all in there for a reason, didn’t really matter what for as long as it wasn’t a sex crime or ratting…TBH, not sure that really matters anymore, times have changed in there. Anyway, something happened to me in there that shouldn’t of happened. I almost died. It was fucked up but I spent my 35 days in the hole, never snitched, and I came out with my head held high. I guess that’s when I earned a little trust from Joe….. I’m not certain but it only makes sense. Joe never discussed anything about anything with me, why would he? But, he started to tell me a few stories. Before all this it was just advice…the way only old Italian’s can give. If you have a sound of what an old Italian mobster would sound like….that was Joe! He started to tell me about the war he had with Scarpa. Now, if you know anything about Scarpa… they didn’t call him the grim reaper for nothing. If he wanted you dead, you were dead! That is, unless your name was Joe Waverly. I’m on the edge of my seat and Joe’s talking like we’re playing a game of chess in the park. Maybe that’s how he did it…he’s calm, doesn’t get worked up, he even had a slight smile on his face.…I mean, like I said, I never even knew who Joe was until way later on. BUT, LET ME TELL YOU none of these stories portrayed are like anything it actually was! Oh, they’re true….but, compared to hearing it first hand from Joe…there’s no comparison. I really felt like typing this for a few reasons…one, the last name. It seems to be a lot of misunderstanding of how it’s pronounced. Not to say mine is correct but I never heard it said any other way and he never bothered to correct anyone, and two…I never once saw him carrying around a bag to piss in. Maybe he had one in there but I never once saw it and I spent many hours sitting in his cell not including how many dozens and dozens of times I took him back and forth to chow. When you’re in the feds you never know who you’re gonna run into. It’s not about the crimes it’s about the way you carry yourself. We were in with a welterweight boxing champion, guys that were the front runners to the movie “Blow” (btw, the hairdresser wasn’t really gay) … you just never knew who some of these old timers were til you got to know them. Joe, wherever you’re at, I hope you’re doing well. Even in dark places we always make good memories. You are one of mine…shared a lot of laughs, good stories, and much advice. You wouldn’t remember me from this excerpt but if we ever talked, you’d remember. It was a pleasure, my friend.
Hi Philip, thank you so much for sharing your memories of your time with Joe Waverly. This was a really interesting to read and I appreciate you taking the time to write this comment. Many thanks .
Yeah, I really debated whether or not to comment. I must’ve typed and erased it 3 times before I just said F-it. It really trippped me out when it all came out of who he was. Others knew, but I didn’t. Guess it didn’t matter to me either way, I just liked talking to the guy. Here I am, many months at his table in the cell and I’ve been talking to one of the biggest gangsters…maybe that’s why he liked me. I didn’t know…which probably made our conversations more genuine, more authentic. His stories, man…I couldn’t even imagine! Thanks for all you do, got a great channel! Keep it up!
He is doing great. Just enjoying time with his family.
And yes, he is totally a cool dude, and a great grandfather.
I also enjoy his stories, but live his advice even more!
I will show him this.
Only the Hitman sent to kill him knows how to pronounce his name now that's professional! Dedication.
Another brilliant informative and researched video mate, definitely my fav mafia channel
Thank you Nick. Appreciate the support pal
WELCOME HOME JOE WAVERLY
When I first read about Joe Waverley on ganglandnews back in the day I honestly couldn't believe what I was reading and the guy is out!!! He survived everything from shootings to Florence admax and trials that could of put him away forever for killing more than one cop. Amazing life.
A fascinating character that’s for sure!
Love them Columbos.
Oc shortz you're working hard mate.
Thanks
Ha I enjoy it mate. The Colombos always provide a good story!
Good shit man
Thanks pal.
Great contact as usual. O.C. you never let me down
Thanks again Carmen
Waverly is the kind of fella you always want on your side....a real deal tough S.O.B.
Fear an old man
in a young mans profession.
Great upload you never let us Down!
Thanks again mate
Carmine was a Badass he was almost constantly at war, he survived several assassination attempts including being actull blown up + been shot several times he almost murderd Crazy Joe Gallos brother his supposed friend earning him his nickname The Snake
Joe Waverley is like The Terminator.
Yo I told you it was Ca- Case!.lol!....Its funny that you tasked Mazza..i had a couple issues with him too..
Anyways another great video brother
Talk to ya soon
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Ha I know pal. I'd messaged you both at the same time, you came back quicker, and then he reaffirmed what you told me. Thanks again mate!
@@OCSHORTZ Your welcome brother Hit me up anytime
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@@Jason.cbr1000rr thank you! That’s correct. Kuh-Ka-che.
No one could pronounce his surname so they called him Joe Waverly!
Kuh-Kahse-ee
It’s actually Kuh-Ka-Chee.
@@Owyourhurtingme how about we go with a guy named Joe Cacace. See what he says.
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@@colonelreb1014 🤣🤣
Great story consistently excellent material you have here my friend presented in a friendly tolerable Style
Thank you Mark, I appreciate the kind words pal.
@@OCSHORTZ kind words based in reality are merely an observation about what is true now kind words based on fallacies are sneaky attempts to flatter for ulterior reasons you've got a great show here buddy the best wishes for you from here in the heart of the Bronx New York City
@@markvegas7152 in my five trips to NYC I yet to visit the Bronx. I'll have to pick your brains on good places to go next time I am over.
THE best channel for true mob aficionado,s! So,does reaching out to your mob "friends " for info now make you an associate???lol.🙂👍
haha far from it. I've liaised with Larry Mazza before regarding a few questions, and he has always been kind enough to respond. I'm still just a history nerd from England. ha
@@OCSHORTZ Same here!😁👍
Bro a wish you could do longer videos content top notch bro!
Maybe one day! I think around 10 mins of my British accent is enough for most people! haha
Great video OC 🔥 The Colombos have got to be the most violent crime family in New York. They’ve survived three civil wars inside their borgota. I’ve also read that Charle Moose was not well liked within his crew. And that he was a greedy Captain taxing his men weekly whether they’d make a score or not.
That is correct about Charlie Moose, good knowledge pal. Perisco apparently used this an excuse to ship him off to Vegas - allegedly Persico felt threatened by Panarella's closeness to Sonny Franzese, and worried they may plan to take over the family. I asked Larry Mazza about Charlie Moose, and he said that he was hated and greatly feared by everyone.
@@OCSHORTZ thanks OC for the reply and additional information. You are a wealth of knowledge!
Wishing you continued success 👍
Joe Waverley was not to be messed with deadly as they come great vlog as always.
Thank you
I'm now subbed, obviously 👌🏻
Thank you Sol. And many thanks for the positive feedback. I tend to upload on a Wednesday and Saturday.
Hey buddy great video like always by the way how is that murder Inc book on the shelf does it say anything about Mr grey Frankie carbo thanks
Been a while since I've read it. It's heavy going. Let me check if there is anything on Carbo.
@@OCSHORTZ
Thanks brother 👊👍
Please do a video on barney bellomo supposed boss of the genovese family. There's not much info out on him and it seems like he is the most powerful mobster LCN
Stop reading my mind! I have actually been planning one on him recently! Will probably have it done in a couple of weeks.
@@OCSHORTZ looking forward to it bro. Keep the fire content coming.
There is more than one bellomo in the mix, an uncle with the same name I believe.
Great video 👍☘️👍
Thanks pal. Cacace is the real deal for sure.
I've wondered about that pronunciation for YEARS! Cheers. I've deduced that the formal Italian, and dialect name pronunciations, are often bastardised by the seppos :)
He's an old new York tough guy ...I love it
Big time - Tough as a coffin nail!
Probably more I know this person Persico, more I become sure that he was the most vicious mobster ever !
Persico was a nut to even think about killing a prosecutor
Hey man can you talk about Jimmy Emma? He was the toughest guy Sammy the Bull ever met. Also can you talk about Sally Dambrosio, Charlie Moose, and Joe Jelly? Those guys were the most feared soldiers ever apparently.
Some great suggestions. I will add them to the list mate.
I read somewhere about Joe Jelly amd D ambrosio.Just search in on youtube.should be there
I was good friends with Carmine and Eddie Carinis younger Cousins. Their father did 25 years for a hit that Carmine and Eddie did. Someone told that he did not do it and he was eventually let out of Jail.. His name was also Carmine Carini. He got out than went back in for doing home invasions in Staten Island...This guy kept his mouth shut and did 25 years for a murder that his cousins did. Vinny Carmines son passed away at around 5 years ago. He was like 27. Than his brother Carmine was murdered last year by two of his friends.. It was on the news. They found carmine rolled up in a tarp and had cyder blocks tied to his feet and was dumped in the ocean in Broolyn..His body floated to the surface.
Crazy. Back to Vinny and Eddie they were hitmen and were ordered to kill a judge by Carmine Persico who Persico felt had disrespected Cosa Nostra.. They wound up killing the Judges father who had the same name.
Due to their mistake they were killed..The killers who killed Carmine and Eddie went to their funeral and Joel Waverly pointed the guys who they had kill Carmine and Eddie out at the funeral and than had them killed..That's a movie and book right there..And it's a true story.
And don’t forget that Waverly married Enrico “Eddie” Carini’s widow! Crazy stuff.
I had a white 86' Fleetwood Cadillac just like that. It was my first car. Wow, that car brings back memories...lol
Did it come in a convertible at all? The one Frank Smith had that the Carini brother was killed in was a convertible. The picture quality was poor so I didn't use it in the video.
Nah brother, it was just a plain ole white rag top. The one in the video looked just like it though. I think that one in the video was probably an 84', but mine was an 86'. Those old Cadillacs were tanks dude...lol
How about some content on the most successful LCN family in America?
The Detroit combination.
I will definitely cover them but there are some guys out there like Scott Burnstein and Gunner Lindbloom who are far more qualified than me to talk about that subject. Saying that I may well get them on for an interview.
You are a great dot connector just like David Icke.
Thank you.
Could listen to these mob stories all day 👌
Thank you pal. Some fascinating stories out there that's for sure.
@@OCSHORTZ Keep it up m8, your videos are very insightful 👍
@@ryansnr thank you. I don't profess to be an expert or anything, I just enjoy sharing interesting information that I have researched. Glad you like them.
That darn Snake !!! Larry Gallo made you shed your skin he just didn't take your head off !
Nicely put Lee.
Larry gallo disrespected himself and also other people. He thought he was a alot tougher than what he really is. He foolishly released all of the hostage capos and then trusted the snake
@@AY-qy4jn So I'm assuming you think Larry Gallo had a crystal ball and would know that Persico had switched side huh? Is that your thought? If so it's makes no sense what so ever, I agree releasing the hostages and trusting old man Profaci was a very bad Idea ,Larry was a well respected guy not only by members of the Profaci- Colombo family but from high ranking and soldiers from other Borgata's some other wise guy may have been clipped for kidnapping his families administration but he became a aid to Joe Colombo and he died from cancer not a bullet or a garrote and it's possible if he had lived beyond 1968 he'd eventually be the father of that family.
@@leebowens2631 crazy joe also didnt have a crystal ball but he knew they had to kill the hostages. Do you think Carmine had the crystal ball when he knew he had to kill Mimi Scialo to become the boss of the family? Nobody has crystal ball but they are tough or cunning enough to do whats necessary to do. So i think joey had to be the boss of the gallo gang.
@@leebowens2631 but other than that no disrespect to Larry Gallo. He had the balls to go against a boss and that makes him more daring than almost all of the mobsters
That kidnapping story in the beginning was crazy waverly was a beast a monster took on 3 armed kidnappers unarmed managed to take a gun from one a do his thang wat a gangsta gotta give it up to him and give him his props for that he made them niggas run away a buried another he was a real G wow that was some gangster shit!!!!!!!
Never knew of joe waverly but I’m gonna be doing some deep diving ritenow
You won't be disappointed.
Reckon you'll do more videos on Greg Scarpa?
Definitely. There are many Scarpa stories out there to dissect and discuss.
OC please please if possible do longer videos l enjoy all your work l do find the MOB interesting l can say you are about the best in the Uk with your research is always on point thanks oc genius 👍👍🙃
Very kind of you to say Stanley. Maybe one day I will do a few longer ones. Unfortunately at present "real life" gets in the way so I can only spare by the time for these shorts. Glad you are enjoying the channel.
The only reason its pronounced "Kah-Case" is because he was born in America. Many Italian families anglicized family names. I can give many examples of this. His name is authentically pronounced, "Kah-Kah-Chay". This is accurate and in accordance with the Italian language. I find it interesting that so many American mob guys are so oblivious to their true roots.
I appreciate your work enormously. One favour though, can you please put the names of people under their photo?
Thank you Zane. I tend to label a large proportion of the photos in most videos. It really depends on the time I have to edit them.
@@OCSHORTZ I think your channel will be really big soon, I appreciate how time consuming it must be and I thank you for getting back to me 😊
@@AnnQlder any time Zane. Thank you for your support.
maybe Allie Boy was innocent of that specific crime, it's one of the only reasons I can think of as to why he targeted that specific prosecutor.
I see Bill O'Reilly just published "Killing the Mob" book. I am curious if you are interested in reviewing it?
I will check it out for sure, and could well do a review.
Tough As Nails 😎😎😎
Woooaaaahhh you dropped something......its alright....its only the name of Larry Mazza lol
haha It was more so that people didn't give me grief on the pronunciation of Cacace.
@@OCSHORTZ only fucking about,great channel bro
@@just_golds ha I could tell pal. 😂
I gotta like any vid that even mentions the idea of a persecuter getting whacked.
They should have wacked your English teacher
@@j2times2006 😂😂😂
That darn Charlie Moose put two in the back of the ear of his so called amico Mimi Scialo, one guy that Moose wouldn't screw around with was Salvatore ( Sally D) D' Ambrosio.
Can you please tell everything you know about charlie moose and also about sally? Who was the tougher of the two of em? Those two guys were the toughest of the colombo family yet so little is known about them? I wanna know why Sonny Franzese claimed that Sally was the toughest guy in new york. Thanks in advance
I heard it was Greg Scarpa who put two behind Coney Island Mimi, under orders from Charlie Moose and the Snake
Mimi fucked with the right one when according to sources disrespected Carlo Gambino. Word has it Gambino took it all in stride quietly. Next thing you know Scialo was found dead deep under the floor at Otto's Social Club in Brooklyn encased in CONCRETE.
@@blackwolverine1 nah that has nothing to do with his demise. He was getting more and more powerful and had his own personal killers and he didnt let the family know about their names. Carmine had him killed before he killed Carmine. Don Carlo didnt do shit when Mimi talked shit that night.
@@AY-qy4jn Because thats not The Don's style partner. Maybe what you have stated maybe true, or just one of the reasons for his demise. But i can bet you Gambino secretly had a hand in his demise.
The columbos are wild
They had some serious guys that's for sure.
@@OCSHORTZ there all violent.
Franky notch lived with me .he was like my brother .his father was joe Colombo bodyguard .great man .helped me
I am fluent in Italian and can tell you that his name is actually pronounced "Caca-Che" ... yes, that is how it would be pronounced in Italian...
Yes I totally agree. However the name has been Americanized, and even a relative of his confirmed that they all say Ca-Case.
@@OCSHORTZ Something tells me Joe didn't like the sound of "Caca" growing up lol
Must be time for a few jars in London when you're in town.
Ha we will sort this soon
I wonder if they took the cigar from fat Tony salerno when he went to prison?😂 I wonder if he had withdrawal...And how horrible was the one made guy eat his testicle before killing him.ewwwwww.😯.
Anyway LOVE the stories and the channel. Stay safe everyone.
He still had his cigars in prison. There are a few photos showing him with them right up until his final days. Glad you are enjoying the videos!
@@OCSHORTZ do you have the photos
Scarpa messed up by using a .22 Rifle. A .22 is good for walking up behind someone or at a distance with a scope but not for a gun fight.
We need more Charlie Moose stories.
Yes, more info on the capos of the 60s/70s
He did one,check out his collection.
Waverly got his name from Waverly Florist, the business he took over from the Horowitz Family. They lived on the next block, East 14th between Aves. T & U , which is the block I grew up on. I knew both Alan and Gary Horowitz, they had a sister too. Anyway in the back of the florist Joel had the "Blue Door" after hours club, very popular with the locals.
Thanks for the additional knowledge on the Horowitz family. I knew about his florist but didn't know who previously owned it. Many thanks mate.
All of Charlie mooses crew ended up being heavyweights , he sure knew how to pick n groom em 💯
Yes mate, some serious individuals in his crew
Another gooder
Help me out here - You refer to Larry Mazza as Colombo associate , yet Mazza claims to have been made - What’s your opinion OC ?
Intratec-9 alway jams. He is right.
What amuses me, is that these criminals end up dead at the hands of other crims, serving long prison sentences and/or turn informant. What a bunch.
Joe is in the half way house now
That what i heard, apparently in the same one as Teddy Persico.
He is now living with family.
5:15 Scarpa Was a old Wild crazy mother Dude.🤔...
Greg shot him out of spite . He also shot joe flowers for no reason except because he didnt like him
and for being right
To be fair, the reason for the hit was probably clear and obvious to Persico, we just don't know what those reasons were.
There are so many conversations, accusations, deals, actions and personal/family slights that take place and we will never hear about them and they can lead to anything.
👍🏻😎🍸
Thanks Aron.
Charlie The Moose was my Foreman and was very cool to all of us.
Thank you for sharing your first hand knowledge Andrew. It is certainly appreciated
I live in jersey
Oc who do you think was the most ruthless mobster ever ? Scarpa ?
Ooooh BIG QUESTION... I'm going to have to have a think on that one and get back to you. ha
It would be helpful if you put the name of the person on the photo.
Thanks for your feedback Vincent. I will endeavour to do this where possible in future. Good idea.
Hey shortz you are clearly mistaken if u think that in 97 Casso who at this time was shelved and turned informer, would have some connection to these guys
Pretty sure I said 1987.
Just rewatched - definitely said 1987 - you had me worried then ha
Badass? The guy's a cold-blooded psychopath. These stories are interesting, but reading through the comments and listening to some of the words used, you do wonder if people have some kind of weird respect for mafia murderers
The dictionary definition of "badass" is "a tough, uncompromising or intimidating person." It can't be argued that Joe Waverly doesn't fit these characteristics. This does not glorify him, and by no means do I have that intention. You may be interrepting "badass" in another way, perhaps in the way some people refer to it in a good way.
Most LCN Italian-Americans anglicise/mispronounce each other's names. I'm never sure whether to say them the Italian way or the Italian-American way.
Anyway, enjoying your vids bro, glad I found your channel. Hope your sub count goes to the moon!
That is indeed the dilemma I have had.Sol I have looked at the traditional Italian pronunciations, and then been told that in the states it has been anglicised! There is an Italian Footballer with the surname Cacace and it is pronounced Cah-Cah-Chee.
Santora was a low level guy. Might have been associated with the Colombos, but his family were mostly Gambino guys.
I wonder when Mr Waverly is alone with only his thoughts was it all worth it
What a bowl of Spaghetti! ;👍🏽
If you are in the Mafia set aside some of your ill gotten gains to have someone else handle your laundry.
Arnwold .sentenced lil ali boy .and theres way more .to the story
Thanks Gerard - would you care to elaborate pal. I'm always keen to fill in the gaps to the stories.
@@OCSHORTZ the prosecutor was on lil ali boys case .also joey testa and anthony senter were back up shooters .he sent carmines son away .and the got the father by mistake .
If your ever in newyork we will meet up .ill fill you in on good stories .but like i said i wont jam anyone up .i grew up with all these guys .i could write a book trust me.
Ooo
@@gerardhines5884 ill definitely take you up on that offer pal.
Charlie the moose makes the guy eat his ball then Waverly gets a ball shot off what is it with this guy in laundry Mats and nut Sachs
Santaro brung mafia cops in to picture casso never knew this
*Charlie Moose: "Heah, why don't ya eat ya testa-cull before we kill you, eh?"
Proper pronunciation, in Italian, is Kuh-kah-che. Americanized versions vary. I would know because it’s my family name.
That's correct Stan. There is an Italian Soccer player where the pronunciation is Kuh-Kah-che, but you are right it has been Americanized. I have been advised, not just by Larry Mazza, but now by a relative of Joe Waverly that in this instance it is pronounced Ca-Case as in suitcase. How does your family say it? The traditional Italian way or in another variant?
@@OCSHORTZ Well, all my Italian immigrant family members pronounce it proper as Kuh--Ka-Che. But growing up, all my friends and teachers in school would say Kuh-Case or Kuh-Kay-Zee, hence my nick name “Crazy Cacace”, lol. My own children go by Kuh-Kay-zee and my brothers children go by Kuh-kah-che and the vast majority of my Brooklyn cousins go by Kuh-Case. Sometimes I wish I was called Smith.
@@Owyourhurtingme 😂😂😂 i bet. Someone told me that when Joel Cacace was all over the news, each reporter on every channel had different way of saying the name. Most of them are the ones you've just listed!
@@OCSHORTZ ua-cam.com/video/hRa7hroDess/v-deo.html - then there’s the famous British dancer Flavia Cacace. Note the way it’s pronounced here.
I wouldn't have started a fight with Gregory Scarpa. When you make a date with The Grim Reaper, you don't come home.
There where other Mobsters just as, and even more vicious then him.
And if anyone's wondering what joe he's talking about its joe Waverly ok 👌, you got it, it's joe waverly,joe with Waverly on the end,so we'll call him on here (so your not confused)as joe Waverly,because I could mention another joe not joe Waverly but a different joe without Waverly on the end but I'm not so we'll keep it joe Waverly,you got it now Waverly.....a Mr j.Waverly 🤌capiche 🤌
Ha okay maybe I overkilled it on the use of his name.
8 ads on a 11min video???? UA-cam is making me hating more and more products, i make sure not to buy anything they show when they go to the extremes. I understand 1 or 2 ads, but 8?????
I genuinely had no idea it was that many!