This is a remake of my very first video, two years after release. Lore corrections: - Some timeframes I present are not 100% correct. I sometimes take the liberty of assuming something happened in the winter, since for example the first thing happened in the summer - I assumed the emperor held contact with the troops as the Forgotten Hero is not a military commander, this is not canon as it is an assumption - We are not sure to what extent Hammerfell actually drove out the Dominion, the map in the video is just my interpretation of events - Much of the visual footage used in this video is made by me or not actual footage, it is merely used for visualising the experience, its not canon.
Still the problem with High Rock. High Rock is no longer a loyal province of the empire since the legion fight against them on the siege of orsinium. Tullius himself saved the orsimer refugges and helpt them to reach skyrim. High Rock is in a alliance with Hammerfell... maybe you should made a red-brown hatching for this split loyalties? I mean... besides the overall diplomatic we have hundred little kiingdoms in High Rock and every King had his own oppinion. :D
I love how the Empire literally left troops in Hammerfell and told them to secede so they could keep fighting without breaking the treaty or having to defend Cyrodiil.
Major respect to Hammerfell, those guys literally just sliced and diced thousands of Thalmor with their curved swords. Redguards are the literal embodiments of dex builds.
Im Skyrim you can come across a traitor who side with the high elves and sold out hammer fell don't kill her do the quest for it and she is sent back to her home land to be tried and a traitor to her people .
I consider anything that isn't ESO to be canon. I know everything is supposed to be canon according to Bethesda but ESO is just sooo unrealistic compared to the rest of the universe's lore.
I liked your informative narration and inclusion of dense and niche lore. My biggest tip is to rehearse your lines, you could afford to slow down a little which will keep you from using run on sentences, Which obviously drains you and causes you to stutter or stumble more. You did a great job considering the speed of which you delivered, but by giving the video more space to allow the viewer to sit and absorb the information youll also save yourself lots of energy.
Never heard of the orb but it sure fits in, its no wonder why the Dominion was able to fight against the empire's massive army and superior tactics other wise the Dominion wouldn't stood a chance
Especially since they did not continue their expansion into Hammerfell after the war ended, it shows that the dominion can easily be dealt with with the proper tactics.
Basically, the Dominion cheated. Without that Orb, there weak. Love, to see the Dominion's leaders faces when they heard that they lost the Battle of the Red Ring. I would have payed a pretty penny to get that moment in bronze.
@Charlie Munro well I do not think that seeking a single dues ex Machina artifact counts as an act of genius remember the empire did not have the time to prepare properly for a damn war also their overreliance on such artifact could be to their lack of spy networks
Thank you for this. So many people have no idea what they're talking about; The Empire did everything it could. If it fought on openly it would have been destroyed, but it did everything it could. The Imperials knew their released legionaries in Hammerfell would fight on and knew the Dominion was too weak there, the term ceding Hammerfell was thus a null term. Despite this, everyone pretends the Imperials betrayed Hammerfell, even though they helped save it. They quite literally saved the world and bought themselves time, and having saved the world and realising they needed time to rebuild, played for that time with a peace treaty. But so many people are completely ignorant of just how admirable the Empires actions and successes in the great war were.
@@dutchpatriot17 yeah along with so many in the rest of tarmial sadly, which is why I side with the empire and do what I can to amke it strong and ready for the next war if it ever comes unless we get another oblivion crisis which not be a suprise.
Titus mede II was a legitimately better General than what the dominion brought to the table. If it weren’t for that orb, they wouldn’t have been able to defeat him.
will kenny Not even close. The imperials were using a few their own daedric artifacts and elven artifacts including the power of the elven white gold tower itself and they STILL got their asses beat using all that AND their larger forces still lost. The elves forcers were smaller but simply superior in quality along with the greatest mages and warriors in the world minus the redguards and orcs themselves and possibly dummer who are good at both.
@@SmartAss4123 I think it's worth noting the competencies of the Thalmor without pretending that the Empire was incompetent. The Empire was ill-prepared for such a war because of internal strife and keen Aldmeri subterfuge, and as you note, the Aldmeri armies were not numerous in merpower but ferocious in magical ability and centuries of training. They were superior in many ways. But the seasoned generalship and solid structure of the Legion proved to be a tenacious adversary for the Aldmeri invaders, despite their disadvantages. And as we saw, once the orb was destroyed, they enjoyed a classic defender's advantage, that of greater reconnaissance and knowledge of the terrain than their adversary. I think Will Kenny is right to point out the strength of Titus Mede the II's leadership, and the over-reliance the Thalmor had on potentially fragile advantages. Much like the physiology of the Altmer, which is strong in magic but weak to magic, the Thalmor generalship was strong in cunning but weak to cunning.
Ya, that's why they suck in general. They may have won this war, but without there orb there weak. Now they got to build a whole spy network. I am sure the Puckuis Orclotes (I don't know how to spell there name. Basically, the Empire's version of the FBI) are probably up rooting there spy networks when ever they find them. But who truly knows? The Thalmor made some big mistakes that I am sure there going to learn from, but now they got to fight a more conservative. They lost alot of manpower, and the Empire is gearing up of a 2nd Great War. Even with the spy networks, information now comes at a very slow pace, and it could mean the difference between victory, or defeat. The Thalmor hate the unknown, because Man has proven to be the better at war, and the Elf's haven't been the best at war. Why else would the Thalmor need a orb? Because, it's easyer then guessing games. Which (again) the Thalmor hate guessing games.
@@Callsign_Prophet The problem with elves is that they take long enough to recuperate their population pool. I assume it takes longer for their children to grow. The adults probably average around 300-400 years old.
Frist Name Last Name penitus oculatus. Imagine the empire doing something like how they did..... sending an ambassador to ask them to cede large parts of Valenwood and Elsewyr to the empire and adopt the 9 divines religion and when they do not agree, just show them the heads of every single Thalmor agent in the parts owned by the empire and then sending the Dragonborn to FusRoDah the walls😂😂.
I feel like with this knowledge and the empire more prepared then there's no way the empire would lose a 2nd Great War, but I also feel like the Dominion would take a city and would not hesitate to make a sacrifice to a daedric lord for help like they hesitated in the 1st GW. If they did summon daedra then I don't think the empire would win, and then the daedra would probably turn on the dominion later on. So yeah, hopefully no sacrifice ever happens lol
How does Daedra summoning even work? They shouldn't be able to summon large quantities of Daedra after the Oblivion Crisis. I think Thalmor would just rely on subversion & shadow warfare, which won them Valenwood & Elsweyr. It plays into their strengths. Open warfare in the first Great War was an utter disaster for the dominion, which needed Daedric artefacts to make any gains as a military power.
Knowing this, I don't really see how the Stormcloaks have any argument that the empire hasn't been harsh enough to the Aldmeri Dominion. It seems like they did everything in their power to fight them
I'm not really sure what else they could have done though. They narrowly fought themselves out of being completely decimated, and barely got themselves to the point where they could negotiate a truce on (pretty much) equal footing. I get that banning Talos worship is bad, but at the same time you now have time to work yourself back up to a better point of strength where you could one day disregard that rule and/or fight the Thalmor again
@@kman1759 I have waited so long for someone else but me to type this. The Stormcloak rebellion is playing right into the Thalmors hands pretty much every player knows this but you still have idiots yelling SKYRIM IS FOR THE NORDS
This video is so well done. Like genuinely, it’s like one of those history videos in class we all watched when we were younger. I can actually comprehend and visualize what is happening.
Wow this really shed some light on the great war for me! The imperials really could of won if they didnt have that orb but now that it is destroyed I do beleave that the imperials will have a really good chance at winning the second great war.
Lol no skyrim couldn't defeat the Dominion. Whether the empire can is dubious. On land maybe but at sea? Quite possibly not. Skyrim couldn't do either.
@@samersinno1623 Skyrim after the civil war couldn't even defend itself from hight rock or hammerfell... if they ever chose to invade it, much less the dominion... in reality, the forces of the human kind united were only able to get a stellmate agaist the dominion, you really think a broken skyrim with no soldiers could hold off agaist a army that pushed Cyrodill, Hammerfell, Skyrim and Hight Rock combine?
The best way the Empire can topple the Dominion is by using the Penitus Oculatus to stir up dissent in Elsweyr and Valenwood. The Bosmer have never been particularly nationalistic or loyal to the high elves, only remaining under the Dominion for the sake of benefits given to clans that kiss high elf ass. The Khajiits could care less about the Thalmor, except for their claim of bringing Masser and Secunda back during the Void Nights, but if that can be disproven, then the Khajiits will be pissed real quick. Hell, even the Summerset Isles themselves aren't totally loyal to the Dominion. I guarantee some high elves are dissatisfied with the Dominion, because some were alive during the days of the Empire, where they were pretty much free to do whatever they pleased, compared to a fascist totalitarian government. Bring strife to the home front, and I guarantee the Empire can gain the upper hand.
It's better to rest today and fight tommorow than to fight and die today. That's what the Empire did at the end of the great war. They didn't surrender, a fact the Stormcloaks won't acknowledge.
But the Dominion had no more attack troops and couldnt attack. So its idiotic to sign the treaty and it was a surrender that wasnt needed. The Stormcloaks are right. The day the WGC was signed , was the day the Empire died.
Tranz Cat Had they not signed the Concordat,the war would be a disaster for the Empire,because the war never affected the Dominion's supplies or population,the Empire would never be able to hold Cyrodiil if another offensive came from the fresh Reverse armies of the Dominion,and the Imperial Legions were nearly completely destroyed,most of their veterans dead and recruitments were low,the Empire just didn't have the supplies, resources or manpower to continue the war any longer
The Dominion wouldn't likely be able to conquer cyrodiil, yes, but the empire had no way of fighting back. It would have just weakened the empire further and risked destruction. Men reproduce faster; the empire needed time to recover, it knows its playing for time. A few decades down the line and it will be ready for round two while the Thalmor are still rebuilding. It wasn't a surrender, it was a peace treaty, and the empire gave up little of value; Ceding Hammerfell was a null term and the empire knew it, their own legionaries would fight in. They regained all the lost lands of cyrodiil so they could begin rebuilding and agreed to make Talos worship de jure illegal - but don't bother enforcing it at all, and underground talos worship is massive (it's literally only because ulfric kicked up a stink in skyrim that the empire was forced to let the Thalmor come in and crack down.)
@@samersinno1623 Not even timber septim himself atacked summer set isles because that would be suicide, and unlike the empire, the Aldmeri still have planty more soldiers to send there for a second compaing, The empire was ruined, they lacked supplies and a army, if they wanted to rebuilt they army to be able to protect thenselves from a second wave, they needed to sign up the concordat
I believe that one of the books in the Thalmor Embassy says that they are trying to keep the war going for as long as they can because if either of the armies win they are going to become a serious threat to the dominion
Re immersing myself in Skyrim recently have started to watch your videos much more frequently. Great content as always man and I can remember when this channel only had like 300 subscribers it's come a long way much respect for the videos
Great work man, thanks for your dedication to the lore and making content. Hard to find some good lore content sometimes. I have watched every episode of most of the other channels lol.
I have watched ES lore videos For nearly 14 Years now and This one is certainly one of all Time Favorites have watched it multiple Times over The years
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The Forgotten Hero? That sounds like a player. I bet once technology allows big armies, Bethesda is planning on making this into a game. EDIT: and I don’t mean a damn card game haha
If the Redguard Civil war hadn't been in full swing already, the Empire would've had significantly more troops to fight with. I don't think they would've won, but it have been a significantly different outcome.
As someone who has been playing "TESV:S" for over two years now (after having bought it, but never finished it, back in 2012 or so?), I think this is an excellent video. When I'm done with that pesky dragon here up north, I'll pay a visit to those snotty elves, but in the meantime, I ask everyone to stand firm. May Talos guide you.
Oblivion is before the war but it’s almost the direct cause to the Empire’s current state since it destroyed it, imagine the Western Roman Empire against Attila the Hun, that’s how it was
Imagine a return of the sword singers. SwordSingers are capable of taking a fraction of their soul and making It Into a ghostly sword. There have been stories of 1 swordsingers taking on battalions. But since then SwordSingers have simply become a old relic. Can we have a swordsingers lore video????
Imperial, your visual aids remain the best I have seen in any lore videos, it is clear you put a lot of time and effort into them. And I love the intro!!
What many people forget is that all of the basegame Legends Lore is only storys told by someone around a campfire. It is not completely clear how much of the stuff with the forgotten hero, if any, ever happened.
Really really hoping hammerfell rejoins the army and works together with the imperial legion (and possibly storm cloaks) and fights off the Thalmor in the inevitable second great war
The empire should still look up for more allies, they should try to turn the wood elves and the khajiit agaist the dominion. Otherwise atacking summerset isle would be suicide.
@@brunoraoni Valenwood is a long-term ally to the Aldmeri Dominion. I doubt the Bosmer would ever turn their backs on the High Elves. The Khajiit are more likely to fight for the Empire though.
would be a neat spin-off game, an Elder Scrolls RTS that uses the great war, Tiber septim's conquering of tamriel, Akiviri invasion as campaigns, and a free play mode, which is like Risk/Age of Empires but with TES races.
Empire is so much more powerful compared to conventional view that we hold from the games...but so is dominion. Altmer battlemages are a military logistical nightmare for any enemy. I see why conquering Summerset Isles would be impossible without Numidium. So much arcane power, ancient knowledge from the direct divine ancestry and long life span...and they also have Psijics.
the Empire isn’t even half or quarter of its power from the time of the Septims, Titus II inherited weak and crumbling Empire and miraculously and in genius move he saved it against the greatest danger since Molag Bal, the Empire is on its knees and they know the Dominion more powerful and will attack, my bet is ES6 is the Dominion will attack Hammerfell again but the Empire will come to its aid
The Dominion dontbhave the Psijiics. The two are enemies to the point that the Psijiic order teleported the isle of artaeum away so the Thalmor couldnt get them.
Thank you. I've just started playing Skyrim and the Elder Scrolls for the first time (yes, I am culturally deprived) and had been wondering what all of the fuss was about. Being just a poor Khajiit I had to go back to school for all of this. This will teach me for running around catching butterflies as a kitten I guess...
"I killed a lot of high elves in the great war, and I didn't die. I...guess that makes me a war hero. the great war...there was nothing great about it. thousands died on both sides, and where did it get us? did we really save the empire? or did we just plant the seeds for ulfric's uprising....and another war." -Brunwulf Free-Winter
I think this is a great summary of the events of the war for someone like myself who isn't as familiar with the lore. I don't want come off sounding like an asshole but I just think that the voice over could have definitely turned out a bit better with some more slow and annunciated takes. Besides than that I think this is great!
The visual editing and mapping of this video is very nice, but you really need to work on your narration. Way too much stuttering. Also, why is Mojang's Scrolls listed as the game in the description?
Moral of the story, I guess, is that if the Aldmeri had chosen to reinforce Lady Arannelya in Hammerfell rather than put everything towards Lord Naarifin in Cyrodiil then the Aldmeri might have been able to maintain their occupation of Hammerfell, giving them the advantage in the second great war.
The white gold concordat makes no sense when you find out the aldemari dominion was only winning when they literally had 100% intel on the imperial movements and ran right into a brick wall when more forces were mustered and their intel advantage was lost.
Cowardly Emperor threw it all away. The Dominion was beaten, its main force wiped out. They had the skrying thing of Meridia. Hammerfell threw the Dominion out on their OWN, and achieved peace. Why couldn't the Emperor get a white peace? Because of garrison troops, and a border? Wow.
That was The Thalmor's Ace in the Hole The Vermina Orb...Allowed them to boldly cut off all ports with minimal forces..while spreading their armies Thin, and with the Scrying Knowledge of the ORB Be able to move forces wherever the imperials tried to make a move, to counter anything...but without that ORB lol..Plan A Failure
I found the book about the great war on a shelf located at the bandit hideout of pinewood. I read it and ever since, I'd never joined stormcloak and do the DB quest of assasinating this ceritain person
Nice video. What I don't understand is though: When the empire fought so well at the end, why did they sign a contract so disadvantageous for themselves?
If the Dominion attacked Hammerfell only because it was under Imperial control, does that mean as Independent Hammerfell is now ignored? So to attack the Empire they need to go around Hammerfell, Black Marsh and Morrowind. So most likely they will attack High Rock, Skyrim, and Cyrodill. Which may hint that Hammerfell is not going to be retaken, rather the new battle will be in HighRock for ES6?
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This is a remake of my very first video, two years after release.
Lore corrections:
- Some timeframes I present are not 100% correct. I sometimes take the liberty of assuming something happened in the winter, since for example the first thing happened in the summer
- I assumed the emperor held contact with the troops as the Forgotten Hero is not a military commander, this is not canon as it is an assumption
- We are not sure to what extent Hammerfell actually drove out the Dominion, the map in the video is just my interpretation of events
- Much of the visual footage used in this video is made by me or not actual footage, it is merely used for visualising the experience, its not canon.
Imperial Knowledge do you use any type of website or engine for mapping?
domthe slasher I make them all myself using photoshop and my movie editor
Imperial Knowledge thnx
Great job, keep'em comming!
Still the problem with High Rock. High Rock is no longer a loyal province of the empire since the legion fight against them on the siege of orsinium. Tullius himself saved the orsimer refugges and helpt them to reach skyrim.
High Rock is in a alliance with Hammerfell... maybe you should made a red-brown hatching for this split loyalties? I mean... besides the overall diplomatic we have hundred little kiingdoms in High Rock and every King had his own oppinion. :D
I love how the Empire literally left troops in Hammerfell and told them to secede so they could keep fighting without breaking the treaty or having to defend Cyrodiil.
@6th Battalion Royal Australian Regiment Yeah but unlike the Serbs Hamerrfell won.
Is that in the lore? It is a great move from the Empire if the so called "rebels" where actually in the Empire's side
@@leediaz5690 i think in real world they are called "Black Operators"
It's actually quite a clever tactic. Gives them an opportunity to weaken their enemy while they rebuild and recover themselves.
@@mohi6699 The Serbs won WW1, what are you talking about?
Major respect to Hammerfell, those guys literally just sliced and diced thousands of Thalmor with their curved swords. Redguards are the literal embodiments of dex builds.
Countless anime moments
Curved. Swords.
Im Skyrim you can come across a traitor who side with the high elves and sold out hammer fell don't kill her do the quest for it and she is sent back to her home land to be tried and a traitor to her people .
bitch thought she could seduce me with that fine chest of hers
@@silverbloodborne9495 not true she’s innocent
Love the use of the Elder Scrolls: Total War mod!
YaBoiJefe the empire is so damn strong in that one I love it
Even better “TOTAL WAR ELDER SCROLLS”
@@andero6476
How about: *Total Elder Scrolls War*
French Kings: *Louis*
Tamriel Emperors: *Uriel*
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@@azarishere6442 like all French kings are named Louis and Tamrielic empire always calls its emperor Uriel
@@pandemonium2594 only the septim dynasty
So basically this war would have been impossible if the Thalmor didn't have that artifact? Why have I heard absolutely nothing about this orb?
Play TES legends ;)
To be honest i don't think bethesda wanted eso to be canon anyway.
according to bethesda it IS canon, although it is set in the past, and so won't really be able to change the future history of es
I consider anything that isn't ESO to be canon. I know everything is supposed to be canon according to Bethesda but ESO is just sooo unrealistic compared to the rest of the universe's lore.
Western Lion Yeah, I just pretend it doesn't exist...
I liked your informative narration and inclusion of dense and niche lore. My biggest tip is to rehearse your lines, you could afford to slow down a little which will keep you from using run on sentences, Which obviously drains you and causes you to stutter or stumble more. You did a great job considering the speed of which you delivered, but by giving the video more space to allow the viewer to sit and absorb the information youll also save yourself lots of energy.
Amazing advice, i agree
Also his video would be much longer and more enjoyable. Loved it still.
Never heard of the orb but it sure fits in, its no wonder why the Dominion was able to fight against the empire's massive army and superior tactics other wise the Dominion wouldn't stood a chance
Ronald McDonald Trump. ur name is legendary
Especially since they did not continue their expansion into Hammerfell after the war ended, it shows that the dominion can easily be dealt with with the proper tactics.
Basically, the Dominion cheated. Without that Orb, there weak. Love, to see the Dominion's leaders faces when they heard that they lost the Battle of the Red Ring. I would have payed a pretty penny to get that moment in bronze.
@Charlie Munro well I do not think that seeking a single dues ex Machina artifact counts as an act of genius remember the empire did not have the time to prepare properly for a damn war also their overreliance on such artifact could be to their lack of spy networks
@@overlord5032 Also after the oblivion crisis the empire was left reeling
Thank you for this. So many people have no idea what they're talking about; The Empire did everything it could. If it fought on openly it would have been destroyed, but it did everything it could. The Imperials knew their released legionaries in Hammerfell would fight on and knew the Dominion was too weak there, the term ceding Hammerfell was thus a null term. Despite this, everyone pretends the Imperials betrayed Hammerfell, even though they helped save it. They quite literally saved the world and bought themselves time, and having saved the world and realising they needed time to rebuild, played for that time with a peace treaty.
But so many people are completely ignorant of just how admirable the Empires actions and successes in the great war were.
The reason the Nords think the Empire could have won is because the Nords saw the least amount of action during the Great War.
@@dutchpatriot17 yeah along with so many in the rest of tarmial sadly, which is why I side with the empire and do what I can to amke it strong and ready for the next war if it ever comes unless we get another oblivion crisis which not be a suprise.
Titus mede II was a legitimately better General than what the dominion brought to the table. If it weren’t for that orb, they wouldn’t have been able to defeat him.
will kenny
Not even close. The imperials were using a few their own daedric artifacts and elven artifacts including the power of the elven white gold tower itself and they STILL got their asses beat using all that AND their larger forces still lost.
The elves forcers were smaller but simply superior in quality along with the greatest mages and warriors in the world minus the redguards and orcs themselves and possibly dummer who are good at both.
@@SmartAss4123 I think it's worth noting the competencies of the Thalmor without pretending that the Empire was incompetent. The Empire was ill-prepared for such a war because of internal strife and keen Aldmeri subterfuge, and as you note, the Aldmeri armies were not numerous in merpower but ferocious in magical ability and centuries of training. They were superior in many ways. But the seasoned generalship and solid structure of the Legion proved to be a tenacious adversary for the Aldmeri invaders, despite their disadvantages. And as we saw, once the orb was destroyed, they enjoyed a classic defender's advantage, that of greater reconnaissance and knowledge of the terrain than their adversary. I think Will Kenny is right to point out the strength of Titus Mede the II's leadership, and the over-reliance the Thalmor had on potentially fragile advantages. Much like the physiology of the Altmer, which is strong in magic but weak to magic, the Thalmor generalship was strong in cunning but weak to cunning.
The end picture of Tamriel from space is stunning
So basically the Thalmor suck at war...
A.J. Bensinger Too much overconfidence and underestimating were what've made them get rekt around the Imperial City and the Alik'r desert.
Ya, that's why they suck in general. They may have won this war, but without there orb there weak. Now they got to build a whole spy network. I am sure the Puckuis Orclotes (I don't know how to spell there name. Basically, the Empire's version of the FBI) are probably up rooting there spy networks when ever they find them. But who truly knows?
The Thalmor made some big mistakes that I am sure there going to learn from, but now they got to fight a more conservative. They lost alot of manpower, and the Empire is gearing up of a 2nd Great War. Even with the spy networks, information now comes at a very slow pace, and it could mean the difference between victory, or defeat. The Thalmor hate the unknown, because Man has proven to be the better at war, and the Elf's haven't been the best at war.
Why else would the Thalmor need a orb? Because, it's easyer then guessing games. Which (again) the Thalmor hate guessing games.
@@fristnamelastname5549 Seems like the thalmer benefit by numbers and spies... sounds like a modern nation lmao
@@Callsign_Prophet The problem with elves is that they take long enough to recuperate their population pool. I assume it takes longer for their children to grow. The adults probably average around 300-400 years old.
Frist Name Last Name penitus oculatus. Imagine the empire doing something like how they did..... sending an ambassador to ask them to cede large parts of Valenwood and Elsewyr to the empire and adopt the 9 divines religion and when they do not agree, just show them the heads of every single Thalmor agent in the parts owned by the empire and then sending the Dragonborn to FusRoDah the walls😂😂.
i cant wait for ES 6. The birds roam its located in Hammerfell. So, it could be the downfall of Aldmeri Dominion. Long live the Emperor.
I'm pretty sure that it will be cannon that the emperor dies by dark brotherhood assassins. Ironic right
BP Reason true, but another Emperor will be elected. Here’s to hoping the next Emperor craving to strike at the heart of the Thalmor
i think TES 6 will be during the hammerfell campaing to fight off the the Aldmeri dominion and we will also get to solve the civil war there.
Technically, we already have the technology to allow for big armies in future Elder Scrolls games, look up the Mount and Blades video games.
I think that too my guy
I feel like with this knowledge and the empire more prepared then there's no way the empire would lose a 2nd Great War, but I also feel like the Dominion would take a city and would not hesitate to make a sacrifice to a daedric lord for help like they hesitated in the 1st GW. If they did summon daedra then I don't think the empire would win, and then the daedra would probably turn on the dominion later on. So yeah, hopefully no sacrifice ever happens lol
But they wouldn't unless they are willing to sacrifice their own populations which would just result in revolt and rebellion
How does Daedra summoning even work? They shouldn't be able to summon large quantities of Daedra after the Oblivion Crisis. I think Thalmor would just rely on subversion & shadow warfare, which won them Valenwood & Elsweyr. It plays into their strengths. Open warfare in the first Great War was an utter disaster for the dominion, which needed Daedric artefacts to make any gains as a military power.
tbh if you take all the magic out and such, this is a VERY realistic scenario, this shows how much they care about their games
Imperial all the way, I always pick that as my character in every game because of their similarity to Ancient Rome
Same the empire is similar in a lot of ways
Knowing this, I don't really see how the Stormcloaks have any argument that the empire hasn't been harsh enough to the Aldmeri Dominion. It seems like they did everything in their power to fight them
Because the Stormcloaks are idiots led by the biggest idiot in Skyrim
But they still signed the White Gold Concordact after fighting them anyway.
I'm not really sure what else they could have done though. They narrowly fought themselves out of being completely decimated, and barely got themselves to the point where they could negotiate a truce on (pretty much) equal footing. I get that banning Talos worship is bad, but at the same time you now have time to work yourself back up to a better point of strength where you could one day disregard that rule and/or fight the Thalmor again
@@kman1759 I have waited so long for someone else but me to type this. The Stormcloak rebellion is playing right into the Thalmors hands pretty much every player knows this but you still have idiots yelling SKYRIM IS FOR THE NORDS
@@zerogbot23 Skyrim is for the Nords
I’m happy to be part of the Imperial Knowledge family. Can’t wait to see how big this can grow into!
2 years and this video deserves SO many more views ,75k? This should have 1m at least
This video is so well done. Like genuinely, it’s like one of those history videos in class we all watched when we were younger. I can actually comprehend and visualize what is happening.
Wow this really shed some light on the great war for me! The imperials really could of won if they didnt have that orb but now that it is destroyed I do beleave that the imperials will have a really good chance at winning the second great war.
Skyrim alone could destroy the Dominion.
Lol no skyrim couldn't defeat the Dominion. Whether the empire can is dubious. On land maybe but at sea? Quite possibly not. Skyrim couldn't do either.
@@syphonfillter speculation
@@samersinno1623 Skyrim after the civil war couldn't even defend itself from hight rock or hammerfell... if they ever chose to invade it, much less the dominion... in reality, the forces of the human kind united were only able to get a stellmate agaist the dominion, you really think a broken skyrim with no soldiers could hold off agaist a army that pushed Cyrodill, Hammerfell, Skyrim and Hight Rock combine?
The best way the Empire can topple the Dominion is by using the Penitus Oculatus to stir up dissent in Elsweyr and Valenwood. The Bosmer have never been particularly nationalistic or loyal to the high elves, only remaining under the Dominion for the sake of benefits given to clans that kiss high elf ass. The Khajiits could care less about the Thalmor, except for their claim of bringing Masser and Secunda back during the Void Nights, but if that can be disproven, then the Khajiits will be pissed real quick.
Hell, even the Summerset Isles themselves aren't totally loyal to the Dominion. I guarantee some high elves are dissatisfied with the Dominion, because some were alive during the days of the Empire, where they were pretty much free to do whatever they pleased, compared to a fascist totalitarian government. Bring strife to the home front, and I guarantee the Empire can gain the upper hand.
This has helped me understand the Great War.This video is presented flawlessly and professionally!Well done Imperial knowledge
Great video. I felt like I was actually experiencing the war.
It's better to rest today and fight tommorow than to fight and die today.
That's what the Empire did at the end of the great war. They didn't surrender, a fact the Stormcloaks won't acknowledge.
But the Dominion had no more attack troops and couldnt attack. So its idiotic to sign the treaty and it was a surrender that wasnt needed. The Stormcloaks are right. The day the WGC was signed , was the day the Empire died.
Tranz Cat Had they not signed the Concordat,the war would be a disaster for the Empire,because the war never affected the Dominion's supplies or population,the Empire would never be able to hold Cyrodiil if another offensive came from the fresh Reverse armies of the Dominion,and the Imperial Legions were nearly completely destroyed,most of their veterans dead and recruitments were low,the Empire just didn't have the supplies, resources or manpower to continue the war any longer
The Dominion wouldn't likely be able to conquer cyrodiil, yes, but the empire had no way of fighting back. It would have just weakened the empire further and risked destruction. Men reproduce faster; the empire needed time to recover, it knows its playing for time. A few decades down the line and it will be ready for round two while the Thalmor are still rebuilding. It wasn't a surrender, it was a peace treaty, and the empire gave up little of value; Ceding Hammerfell was a null term and the empire knew it, their own legionaries would fight in. They regained all the lost lands of cyrodiil so they could begin rebuilding and agreed to make Talos worship de jure illegal - but don't bother enforcing it at all, and underground talos worship is massive (it's literally only because ulfric kicked up a stink in skyrim that the empire was forced to let the Thalmor come in and crack down.)
@@samersinno1623 Not even timber septim himself atacked summer set isles because that would be suicide, and unlike the empire, the Aldmeri still have planty more soldiers to send there for a second compaing, The empire was ruined, they lacked supplies and a army, if they wanted to rebuilt they army to be able to protect thenselves from a second wave, they needed to sign up the concordat
I believe that one of the books in the Thalmor Embassy says that they are trying to keep the war going for as long as they can because if either of the armies win they are going to become a serious threat to the dominion
Bravo!!! I was on the edge of my seat at all times!
This was pretty cool and your editing is very entertaining. I like the machinimas as well. Great job!
Great video! Compared to the earlier ones that I've watched you're talking much more clearly and got far less bloopers. Good job!
is it me or do the thalmor always find a way to cheat or lie??
lol
True yes you got a point
the thalmor are the Chinese of elder scrolls universe
Haha, the empire has no room to talk about cheating, you guys used the numedium
Börr Búrison it’s not cheating if we didn’t use the heart of lorkhan 😛
@@TheKimno4 so basically "it's not cheating if we do it"
Re immersing myself in Skyrim recently have started to watch your videos much more frequently. Great content as always man and I can remember when this channel only had like 300 subscribers it's come a long way much respect for the videos
This video with the bgm is just epic especially during the section on The Battle of The Red Ring and the ensuing counteroffensive.
Hey man, I've been playing skyrim forever and could never understand the great war...this helped BIG TIME! Thankyou!
Great work man, thanks for your dedication to the lore and making content. Hard to find some good lore content sometimes. I have watched every episode of most of the other channels lol.
It been a good 2 years. I always like the lore of the elder scrolls and you tell it well.
I have watched ES lore videos For nearly 14 Years now and This one is certainly one of all Time Favorites have watched it multiple Times over The years
The Forgotten Hero? That sounds like a player.
I bet once technology allows big armies, Bethesda is planning on making this into a game.
EDIT: and I don’t mean a damn card game haha
Give legend's story mode a chance before shit talking it.
Kaelan Swan I’ve played legends story and I can sympathize with the pickle, I would much rather have it in an actual game then just a card game
Legends actually has a great story mode and it's super fun.
I'd prefer Bethesda put significant bits of lore into games like Blades and Legends (great game, by the way) instead of leaving them empty.
Yes but depending on what alliance you pick it will change the outcome that would be cool
If the Redguard Civil war hadn't been in full swing already, the Empire would've had significantly more troops to fight with. I don't think they would've won, but it have been a significantly different outcome.
Great video on The Great War friend, thank you. It was very informative and well set up!
As someone who has been playing "TESV:S" for over two years now (after having bought it, but never finished it, back in 2012 or so?), I think this is an excellent video.
When I'm done with that pesky dragon here up north, I'll pay a visit to those snotty elves, but in the meantime, I ask everyone to stand firm.
May Talos guide you.
Outstanding. Never got into Legends but have played Oblivion and Skyrim a million times. Always had trouble understanding the Great War till now.
Oblivion is before the war but it’s almost the direct cause to the Empire’s current state since it destroyed it, imagine the Western Roman Empire against Attila the Hun, that’s how it was
Salute to the 8th legion and there suicidal defence to buy time for the other legions to escape and regroup.
"the gift" = the heads of every Blades member in Valenwood and Elsweyr
Imagine a return of the sword singers. SwordSingers are capable of taking a fraction of their soul and making It Into a ghostly sword. There have been stories of 1 swordsingers taking on battalions. But since then SwordSingers have simply become a old relic. Can we have a swordsingers lore video????
i hear some old pirates of the Caribbean online music in the back in round in the intro. I love it
the use of tes tw footage is very satisfying.
Good Video, the only recommendation I have if too keep it slow and take deep breaths, other than that I learned a lot today.
I like the graphics you use in this video really cool man.
Imperial, your visual aids remain the best I have seen in any lore videos, it is clear you put a lot of time and effort into them. And I love the intro!!
Man the Empire is badass
I served in the Great War against the Thalmor. I remember how bravely a Legionnaire can fight -Jod
What many people forget is that all of the basegame Legends Lore is only storys told by someone around a campfire. It is not completely clear how much of the stuff with the forgotten hero, if any, ever happened.
The person telling it is a former Moth Priest who tells the stories from an Elder Scroll reading.
2:25 I totally thought you said "one of the biggest cornflakes known to man".
I think he said that by mistake after all English isn't his first language
Really really hoping hammerfell rejoins the army and works together with the imperial legion (and possibly storm cloaks) and fights off the Thalmor in the inevitable second great war
The empire should still look up for more allies, they should try to turn the wood elves and the khajiit agaist the dominion. Otherwise atacking summerset isle would be suicide.
@@brunoraoni Valenwood is a long-term ally to the Aldmeri Dominion. I doubt the Bosmer would ever turn their backs on the High Elves. The Khajiit are more likely to fight for the Empire though.
@@josecarioca8785 the khajiit are still thankful for the moon thing.
would be a neat spin-off game, an Elder Scrolls RTS that uses the great war, Tiber septim's conquering of tamriel, Akiviri invasion as campaigns, and a free play mode, which is like Risk/Age of Empires but with TES races.
Empire is so much more powerful compared to conventional view that we hold from the games...but so is dominion. Altmer battlemages are a military logistical nightmare for any enemy. I see why conquering Summerset Isles would be impossible without Numidium. So much arcane power, ancient knowledge from the direct divine ancestry and long life span...and they also have Psijics.
the aldmeri dominion and the psijics have rocky relationships and do not like each other.
the Empire isn’t even half or quarter of its power from the time of the Septims, Titus II inherited weak and crumbling Empire and miraculously and in genius move he saved it against the greatest danger since Molag Bal, the Empire is on its knees and they know the Dominion more powerful and will attack, my bet is ES6 is the Dominion will attack Hammerfell again but the Empire will come to its aid
i hope so
Psijics are the magic police. They don't really care about mortal politics. They're a recluse monastery.
The Dominion dontbhave the Psijiics. The two are enemies to the point that the Psijiic order teleported the isle of artaeum away so the Thalmor couldnt get them.
Thank you. I've just started playing Skyrim and the Elder Scrolls for the first time (yes, I am culturally deprived) and had been wondering what all of the fuss was about. Being just a poor Khajiit I had to go back to school for all of this. This will teach me for running around catching butterflies as a kitten I guess...
"I killed a lot of high elves in the great war, and I didn't die. I...guess that makes me a war hero.
the great war...there was nothing great about it. thousands died on both sides, and where did it get us?
did we really save the empire? or did we just plant the seeds for ulfric's uprising....and another war."
-Brunwulf Free-Winter
Jeez the Aldmer really soiled themselves with all of this Daedric utility...
-reputation with Akatosh.
The Empire needed a Dragonborn to lead as Emperor more than ever.
I think this is a great summary of the events of the war for someone like myself who isn't as familiar with the lore. I don't want come off sounding like an asshole but I just think that the voice over could have definitely turned out a bit better with some more slow and annunciated takes. Besides than that I think this is great!
Any lore video about the forgotten hero?
Yes I did that already
play elder scrolls legends its free.
Awesome video man, keep up the excellent work.
The visual editing and mapping of this video is very nice, but you really need to work on your narration. Way too much stuttering. Also, why is Mojang's Scrolls listed as the game in the description?
You're a really quirky guy, I like you. Keep up the good work with your videos and keep on improving, my dude.
this is my favorite video on your channel
Ur intro is sick
congrats. A great change from visuals and quality of mic.
This video is great! , Subscribed !
You sound like Farengar , whiterun's court wizard. Haha
still awesome I use this alot when thinking of new builds 10/10
Moral of the story, I guess, is that if the Aldmeri had chosen to reinforce Lady Arannelya in Hammerfell rather than put everything towards Lord Naarifin in Cyrodiil then the Aldmeri might have been able to maintain their occupation of Hammerfell, giving them the advantage in the second great war.
Titus Mede was such a badass.
Thank Farengar very cool
Well done Imperial this was a very good video
Thank you so much
Man This Video is Even better i Love it!!
Very very good video, go on like that, great work you do
Damn that intro was fucking epic as hecc
I wish we could take the fight to the Thalmor as dragon born
Agree they pretty much kept the whole civil war aftermath out
I hate how, near the end, the Empire had the upper hand but still signed the White-Gold Concordat, making the entire war pointless.
So 'the great war' was basically competence vs magic in the strategy side
Yeah nice remake video dude
Aldmeri Dominion really whipped out wall hacks 😒
great video! love your lore vids, keep it up!
Hey man I enjoyed it great work
Hey Zork! Are those footage of aldmeri footage from total war or somewhere else? Great video btw
Yes, medieval 2 total war, elder scrolls mod
Awesome video man
Empire should have asked Morrowind and Black Marsh to help them
To some source the dominion also besiege Bruma and the cloud master temple
The white gold concordat makes no sense when you find out the aldemari dominion was only winning when they literally had 100% intel on the imperial movements and ran right into a brick wall when more forces were mustered and their intel advantage was lost.
Awesome video man!
Glory to the empire
Cowardly Emperor threw it all away. The Dominion was beaten, its main force wiped out. They had the skrying thing of Meridia. Hammerfell threw the Dominion out on their OWN, and achieved peace.
Why couldn't the Emperor get a white peace? Because of garrison troops, and a border? Wow.
In the end the only thing that changed on the map was that hammerfell changed from red to brown.
The fact that the Empire managed to hold their own inspite of such a Daedric tampering is inspiring....
what happen in the period before the first imperial emperor come to power
Love these vids. Very very well done
Just get the Companions to retrieve all the pieces of Wuuthrad 🤣
Where did the forgotten hero actually take the orb of vermin?
That was The Thalmor's Ace in the Hole The Vermina Orb...Allowed them to boldly cut off all ports with minimal forces..while spreading their armies Thin, and with the Scrying Knowledge of the ORB Be able to move forces wherever the imperials tried to make a move, to counter anything...but without that ORB lol..Plan A Failure
I found the book about the great war on a shelf located at the bandit hideout of pinewood. I read it and ever since, I'd never joined stormcloak and do the DB quest of assasinating this ceritain person
Nice video. What I don't understand is though: When the empire fought so well at the end, why did they sign a contract so disadvantageous for themselves?
If the Dominion attacked Hammerfell only because it was under Imperial control, does that mean as Independent Hammerfell is now ignored? So to attack the Empire they need to go around Hammerfell, Black Marsh and Morrowind. So most likely they will attack High Rock, Skyrim, and Cyrodill. Which may hint that Hammerfell is not going to be retaken, rather the new battle will be in HighRock for ES6?
Wow! Very interesting video!!!
I like the idea of an Aldmeri Dominion in the modern era. It’s sad that the Thalmor will completely fuck it up by making enemy’s of everyone.
Excellent mate!