BROKE CANON: The Doctor's Worst Possible Timeline & Other Weird Facts
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
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Sam. This is a very good episode. This may be your end-all episode. You found Jim the fish. You can sleep now.
Can we judge River tho? I mean who hasn't looked at their Goldfish in a tank and thought "At least he's a good listener"
12:36
The 9th Doctor is so cool that across the entire multiverse he's always cool.
I more think that "Hybrids are near-impossible" is meant to imply that crossing two *very* different species is difficult. Like, the further you get away from being humanoid, the harder it is to produce a hybrid without invoking some form of weird science or gadget that forces the connection.
I actually think nine‘s worst timeline would’ve been being a coward and pressing the button in the season finale, thus destroying the daleks.
Yet again is it even possible? He chose not press that button because of his experiences with Rose. And without the presence of Rose, the 9th Doctor would’ve been killed in the opening episode of series 1. Or maybe the whole Bad wolf thing prevents the Doctor and Rose from ever being separated and so their travels together are a fixed point in time, Jack became a fixed point thanks to the Bad wolf afterall.
@@EditedAF987 yeah rosin 92 me for Rose to make Jack Immortal so that he can live a long enough to diet the face of BOE to tell the doctor you Are Not Alone to free the master which will bring about the end of time which makes 11 regenerate which then leads to the events of him saving the universe
How? It would have been the right decision, Earth was already dead it would have been the right decision
@@BattlestarZenobiaNo it was nearly dead
You don't think there were a couple bunkers plus he himself stated that he would be killing Is humanity with the dollars
@@plantainsame2049 wasn’t the whole point that they were caught of guard and no one took the warning’s seriously and weren’t in bunkers and besides given the continents were misshaped I doubt many would still be intact
I always find weird 12's darkest timeline, but I guess that was because this comic was done before his tenure ended (reason why is series 8 twelve). I see comments mentioning Hell bent, and yeah, I can see that.
I think 9's darkest timelines all lead to his dead immediately after. Almost of of series 1 was him taking certain dead desicions and he been ready to just die right there lmao.
He was a very callous doctor even some of his "good decisions" could have gotten him or Rose killed in the process.
That ending with 9 got me
Really glad you let Najawin write the opening. Has Bowelstrek gone to live with Gareth Robert's on a farm then? Also, 6:32 is Sam's darkest timeline
Seriously? How did you not figure out who Jim the Fish is? It was very obvious. I figured it out ages ago.
It's Harriet Jones, Former Prime minister.
Yes, we know who he is.
I now actually want a Doctor Who version of The Hangover on TV. Someone call Chibnell and Mike Tyson and get moving on this thing!
I am kind of surprised Moffat never did one himself. Actually, Time Heist from Series 8 is a bit like that...except instead of hangovers it is memory erasing worms.
Nah Doctor Who doing the Hangover is a great idea, you have sold it to me
I’m both confused and not confused by contents of this episode
This implies that "Coward or killer?" was never ever going to go the other way.
There was not a single timeline where 9 shot the metaltron...somehow...
@@SamyulDavis Considering that Jack was a fixed point in time, and that without Rose there is no immortality for Jack, it can be deduced that Rose meeting 9 is itself a fixed point in time.
This means that a) if Dalek is revived, Rose was always going to survive and would've stopped doctor from killing him. B) Rose was predestined to get back right as the Emperor was about to kill the Doctor. C) Cornell was a massive 9 fan, and was under mandate to not include him in the crossover, so this was the best that could've been done lol
@@vcom741 Rose and the 9th Doctor meeting being a fixed point in time is a wonderful idea.
@@SamyulDavis Speaking of the Metaltron...have you read the Dalek novelisation? I got it a month or two ago as my first Target novel and it's set the bar high for future novelisations
Not yet! Started with the audiobook of The Witchfinders, but will get around to it.
Excellent content dude! Adore this series
So, would the War Doctor’s worst timeline basically be if he actually went through with using the Moment, even with the help of his previous incarnations? That would probably be exactly the same since he still blames himself, not knowing he didn’t do it, but more character breaking. Or would it be something like killing Rassilon and taking his place or fully joining the Time Lords’ side.
Probably fully joining the Timelords as the big Finish audios revealed that the war Doctor was kind of a lawful wildcard during the war. He foiled Dalek and Timelord schemes alike if any of them would massively endanger the universe.
@@EditedAF987 Figured as much.
Talk about Faction Paradox.
I dare you.
He already has
yeah, especially on that last fact I expected some City of the Saved adjacent stuff and instead I got Shakespeare writing Eastenders...
We must force him too
@@alternatethirteenth5594 There are always few of us going on about House Paradox in the comment section of these videos, isn't there?
@@TheBirdOfParadox We're pressuring him. He knows it's inevitable...
Babe wake up a new episode of Broke Canon id out.
0:44 oh shit that tone and look 11 totally murdered jim the fish didn't he.
You should do a video about how in Pete’s world rose and the doctor have a baby and the meta crisis doctor gets referred to by the named Corin
Ooo it's coming! Along with the rest of the Target Storybook
I'm guessing that 'hybrids are unusual' (by which I assume they meant viable lifeforms that can reproduce more of the same) was just a stray throwaway bit of science that was accidentally allowed to creep into Whovian science fiction. Sort of up there with the 'there's no such thing as ghosts' assertion.
Moffat could have just said that the past was colliding with the present and it would have made just as much sense (none). But apparently the future didn’t feel like showing up.
1:36 like the Fourth Doctor? Are those Hornets' Nest/Demon Quest/Serpent Crest stories any good?
I'm really into miniserieses right now. Feel like five episodes is the perfect way to pace a story; they especially excite me when they're written and directed by one person (It's a Sin, DALEKS!, Chernobyl, etc.)
Re the 11th Doctor = I always wanted to see someone play with the idea of what if the Doctor decided to rescue baby Melody Pond and return her to her parents. Yes, I know there are fanfics using that idea, but just think about it - the Doctor means to do a good thing by helping his best friends and rescuing their little baby, but instead he probably blows the universe to shreds because any fixed points River was involved with disappear, not to mention River doesn't get her parents together (as Mels) so she's never born. And yes, the 10th Doctor dies instead of River so the 11th Doctor never exists so there's no Doctor to rescue that baby (that was now never born) that he just blew up the universe to rescue...wibbly wobbly timey wimey...I think I just made my own head hurt, but you get the idea. By this one act the Doctor messes up quite a bit, doesn't he?
One reading of Girl Who waited is that it's a microcosm of the situation 11 had to grapple with Melody and River. If he saves Melody (young Amy) then River (Older Amy) doesn't exist.
I love that in Doctor Who canon the best Doctors ever are 3,4 and 9. I've never heard future incarnations talk bad about them lmao
Next time on Sam's rantsona: "Why Daleks are Necessary for Population Control" with a thumbnail saluting Davros.
(oh wait we saw the other timeline already)
Why was the dude in that Eighth Doctor story holding a laser rifle from Fallout
Because it’s a fan made cover probably
Idk I've always thought that Twelve's darkest timeline is kind of a misunderstanding of his character, as one of his character flaws is his codependence with Clara. Him running off with her in Hell Bent rather than throwing her out would have been a better representation of his dark side.
Also ughhh are we gonna talk about Creed of the Kromon? And how it's the one that actually deserves Nekromanteia's reputation
Honestly, I moreso commend Cornell on predicting the Hell Bent finale a year in advance.
Kroman is more disappointing given it's writer also gave us Vengeance on Varos. Made me realize that a lot of Varos' strengths were in the visuals cause the two stories aren't too dissimilar in substance.
I still hate Nekromantia more for thinking Androzani wasn't edgy enough.
@@SamyulDavis cornell who?
It took me about a minuet to fully process "Bowelstrek fucks dogs". I'm not sure if I'm excited or worried about falling down this rabbit hole later tonight.
I love the idea of River Song's world but I agree it's used in a bad episode. All of history happening at the same time is such a fun idea. Especially in the Whoniverse when you have a alien invasion of Earth once a month. But they never really do very much with it. It's one of the episodes I wish had been a 2 or 3 part story. Gives us more time to explore the world.
Love your channel and this series
8:23 that literally is the laser gun from fallout he is holding
I CANT BELIEVE NO ONE ELSE HAS SPOKEN ABOUT THIS
I always thought that 'Jim The Fish' was the brother of 'Billy The Fish' - the aquatic goal-keeper featured in the "Viz" comics! (...Who was inspired by Dundee Utd goal-keeper Billy Thomson!)
Every episode of this just reminds me of my erotic role playing days as an alternate version of the 11th Doctor, who (amongst other things) rose in power enough to seduce god-tier beings, running into evil versions of himself, becoming a female Doctor and, my favorite parts, entering AND exiting that universe looking for something right before his "last adventure".
And I don't like how I was able to write those stories *back in 2012*. (Yes, BEFORE WE KNEW ABOUT GALLIFREY.)
Still, not as weird as predicting the cracks in time appearing in a completely unrelated universe 2 years before it was shown on the big scre- *OH WAIT, I TOTALLY DID THAT*
Basically, I'm owed royalties from the BBC.
Pretty sure we knew about Gallifrey before 2012.
Im... so glad you found Jim
You missed a trick here - the river ouse is literally pronounced “Ooze”
6:40 I wheezed too much🤣🤣🤣
8:23 are they holding a fallout 3 laser rifle?
was Jim the Fish a talking fish shaped flesh light??? no where says he isn't
Keep it up, bub!
4:09 Heh. Trout-on.
I wanna see dinosaurs have got talent in a episode one day, sounds like a cool show.
Their talent is eating.
If Dalek Universe story The Wrong Woman is anything to go by (which literally repeated River Song world plot except everyone is aware time was gonna go wack), this world still had it's linear progression in place. When that stopped, that's when the trouble would've started.
8:18 *Maybe I am half Veevel*
Technically the 9th doctor does have a bad timeline in the form of Pete's World, so my headcanon is that the daleks just dont wanna fuck with him after the Bad Wolf incident
(And just for the record my headcanon for Pete's World is that Rose got written out of existence during the events of Father's Day)
A++ for the use of Duel Links soundtrack
That's an AMAZING ear. Duel me if you're tough enough punk.
5:44
Wait, hold on, Rose's a hybrid? I know she absorbed the heart of the TARDIS, but I don't think there were any side effects other than becoming God for like 5 minutes
10:26 SSSSIIIIIMMMMMPPPPP!!!!!!!
LETS GO BROKE CANON TIME BABABYYYYY
Sam, thank you for risking your sanity to once again delve into the bowels of sacred canon to provide us with these vids.
*UPGLUADING DATA TO CYBERCONTROL*
The Eternity Clock is one of my favourite Vita games. It's pretty fun and the main disappointment was the BBC cancelling it on a cliffhanger (even Supermassive Games were happy to make the next, when I emailed them a few years back about it).
cool vid doodio
The incident with Jim the Fish will be the Doctor Who centenary special
I'm very excited
wait why does that cover literally just use the laser rifle from Fallout
Fan-made :)
Ahh a new broke canon for my tortured soul
What about the human/kroton hybrid from return of the krotons?
I think we should talk about the fact that a copy of 11 was shot on a beach, twice.
Oh fuck you went there you went topical! Brilliant
Holy crap I’m literally halfway through creed of the kromon at the moment.
Sadly had to miss the end of this one coz I just ordered corpse day today so no spoilers aha
8:25 is the timestamp to go to if you want to avoid the Corpse Day bit :)
@@SamyulDavis Between that and the Sky Man I am worried about Mr Goss. I love him, but I am worried
@@SamyulDavis oh thanks! Forgot there was another fact lol
Corpse Day was an interesting story. I was looking forward to it before I listened to it, but I feel it just went a bit too far. James Goss usually writes amazing dark stories, but I feel like Corpse Day was a bit too grim for its own good and it just wasn't needed.
I value Torchwood because of its lack of boundaries in subject matter. I think it's really grown into it.
I think the best part about Corpse day is Owen and Andy’s reactions it all. Like the stances they both take on the issue is so unexpected yet somehow fitting and it just gives the two a lot more depth I think.
Jim the fish big finish stories??? maybe???
Well as a society I think we’re better off pretending The Creed Of The Kromon doesn’t exist
But it introduces C'rizz so whoops.
It is a very gross story though
I honestly couldn’t care less about extended universe doctor who so this is hilarious
Hybrids, lowercase h, are common.
Hybrids, big H, like The Hybrid, are rare.
He's calling the lowercase rare in Kromon
@@SamyulDavis that's the dumbest thing I've heard then. Thanks for clarification
Hi. I'm a fan of the channel. Could I get a shoutout in one of your videos maybe? If not I understand. Just asking, anyways, I also wanted to ask you who your favorite DW (Doctor Who) Monster is. Also, Trenzalore rocks.
To be fair I like to pretend Creed of the Kromon (and most of the Divergence) just didn't happen lmao.
I mean I'm a little confused how Jim the fich and river.....yea a decided I don't want to go there.
So, you didn't see Cassandra saying "Pure Human" as an Aryan ideology?
I didn't even consider she was referring to hybrid creatures, mutations or anything so innocent.
The river Ouse is pronounced like ooze not “house”
The river what now
hell yeaaaaaah
Jim the Fish. Still not as cool as The Terrible Zodin
Come on Davis be the vtuber you know you want to be.
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Isn't that a TV show?
Where does The doctors no gun rule come from
It comes mainly from that one scene in the Doctor’s daughter. All the classic doctors generally preferred not to use them but they wouldn’t hesitate to pick one up if they absolutely needed to.
@@EditedAF987 Pertwee definitely didn’t hesitate against a Orgron or too at least
No says the matrix
It's pronounced River Ooze
God I hate Torchwood so much
Torchwood often feels like they're trying way too hard to be edgy and dark.
I think the Torchwood audios are a lot more mature when they’re tackling heavier subjects (apart from some episodes in Aliens among us but we need not speak of them).
And in any case Big Finish don’t always do serious Torchwood stories, there’s a lot more variety and there are plenty which are just hilarious and a lot of fun: like when Ianto and Jack go undercover as a married couple in suburbia; or when we got a Love and Monsters style episode about a right wing conspiracy theorist trying to destroy Torchwood; or when Suzie ended up in a Felma and Louise scenario with Margaret the Slitheen; and pretty much any story with Norton Folgate and Andy Davidson together will have some guaranteed laughs.
So, just throwing this out here: _Creed of the Kromon_ is the most deeply repugnant piece of Doctor Who media I have ever encountered and I hate that it's the story that introduces a full-time companion. Hell, I hate that _Creed of the Kromon_ exists at all.
I actually really like that story, even though Eight and Charley were really weirdly characterized there, I loved the Cronenberg influences
@@omegaaverenger112 The basic plot was... fine, I guess. My issue with it was that it didn't seem to be properly aware of just how downright _horrific_ some of the stuff it was doing was. Like, a major plot element was Charley being essentially mutilated and raped. You could make an interesting, albeit deeply upsetting, story out of that, but _Kromon_ just treats it as just a run-of-the mill adventure, and to me it comes across as the author using Doctor Who as a platform to indulge his transformation fetish (especially since "female companion undergoes transmogrification against her will" is a feature of _every single story_ he wrote for Doctor Who).
@@Alfwin Yeah... You're right, Kroman, Varos, Mindwarp. Female companions are treated badly in all of his stories.
Damnit Sam! Now my brain is full of Doctor, River, and Jim, menage a fish theories! Nooooo!
Great content though as usual, you sardonic prick! (Your words, not mine) 🤣
Ouse is pronounced ooze
Broke Canon
Fucking Corpse Day, I hate that story so much
Its so so good though
@@SamyulDavis I would think it was some kind of traumatic masterpiece if it wasn't for the ending
@@brandanfilms4639 then the next second he'll be writing funny little comedy poems about the Master's baby
But Sherlock Holmes isn't even real?
You don’t like Bowlestrek?
Can't think why
@@SamyulDavis lol, love the content btw
What's with the "fucks dogs" references, I am very interested
Not in fucking dogs!!
Its a horrible tragedy. Blame the late Mr Roberts.
It's pronounced oose like the ood not ouse like house