BOO-ROKE CANON: Rose Tyler Became a Vampire & Other Weird Facts
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- I edited like clockwork this month to make this the Halloween episode. Share with a friend or leave a tip if you'd like to say thanks x ko-fi.com/samdavis
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It’s legitimately crazy to me how much “official” Doctor Who stuff is just straight up fanfic lol
I mean, it always. Has been since 1966.
William hartnell was the last member of the Original people So after the tenth planet all new
Everyone: BRING BROKE CANON BACK!!!
Sam: _Can't I just sleep?_
Najawin: _How are you going to_
Sam: Mate...I can't always-
Najawin: _EXPLORE FACTION LORE???_
the monster mash at the start really gave me life
I love the idea that being beaten by Susan just broke the Master so much, he just accepted death.
That Matt Smith mask is way scarier than it should be lol
Nekromantia is probably my least favourite story of all time. Hell Bent I can appreciate the lore arc subversion, timeless children has Sachs's Master. There's nothing I like about Nekromantia, the characters I usually like are disrespected, the plot is a rip off of Caves of Androzani but seemingly just assumed that the reason Androzani was good was because it was "dark".
I swear down, I was in the process of writing a Doctor Who story where they get thrown into the Time Lord/Vampire war and meet the early Rassilon. AND TODAY I FIND OUT ITS ALREADY BEEN DONE 😤
Don't be too disheartened, lots of new who stories are ripped off of novels from the ninties, but that doesn't mean they're bad, it just proves that there truly isn't such a thing as original thought.
It happens. I was going to write a Doctor Who fanfic where a prototype TARDIS crashes into the Doctor's TARDIS in the time vortex...and then I had to abandon it when I found out that one of the Seventh Doctor novels has that exact same premise!
Carry on and do as you please! Just make it more interesting?
If it wasn’t on the Tv you can do as you please!
Yeah, write it anyway! Who knows? Maybe one day you'll make it into a Broke Canon video 😀
so the wilderness years was the doctors goth edgy phase :P
For a universe where the TimeLords got rid of magic
There tends to be a lot of witches
Well, that was an intro
Youre not wrong
Yesterday I learned that Dorian Gray is a real person in the Whoniverse and the Confessions of Dorian Gray Big Finish series is technically a Doctor Who spin off
5:03 Don't think i didn't notice the FOUR knocks
I doubt you’ll see this but I appreciate the trigger warning a lot
I genuinely forget to do ones for arachnophobia etc, but thought it more than appropriate if I'm gonna darken the mood with such dour real-world material.
your best cold open, i feel very welcomed
I despise Nekromanteia. None of the side characters were even remotely likeable. All of the horrible events? Not only do they come out of nowhere, but they also don't go anywhere either - Peri sees a friend die in a horrible way and is clearly traumatised, but then about 30 seconds later she's back to making silly jokes and wisecracks.
As far as I remember, the Doctor and friends don't even interact with the B plot (involving an evil CEO) - it's just the unlikable side characters having a conflict we don't care about and that our main cast barely knows about.
It feels like the author wrote a bunch of upsetting scenes, and then did the vaguest of efforts to link them.
I feel very welcomed to the matrix today, thank you. Love this series Sam
I agree with you, Sam. Just tackling traumatic subjects doesn't make a story sleazy. It's all up to how the writer handles it, if handled well, it can be a mature story, if handled badly... it's Torchwood season 1.
In fact, one of my favorite TV shows is Doom Patrol, and there's some fucked up shit in it. And there's Timothy Dalton. Love me some Timothy Dalton. It's also the show that convinced me that Alan Tudyk would've been an amazing pick for the Master.
I know I've already made 3 requests for Broke Canon facts, but you NEED to know this:
Do you like alternative regenerations?
Do you love weird wilderness years stories?
Do you love huge...MASSIVE canon plasters?
Then Davis my friend, it is of the highest importance that you..."experience" the glorious mess that is:
Doctor Who - Death Comes to Time
Superior Beings has Peri almost become a Findus Frozen TV Dinner for some hungry space werefoxes, who then decide to use her in a breeding experiment to create a human farm.
Jeeesus christ
@@SamyulDavis It was great bloodthirsty fun to teenage me.
It's shot to the top of my reading list at least
I thought they were even referencing Birth of a Renegade when the Master said "assassinating Presidents"
I really don't like the idea that the Master was an evil supervillain already in his student years. I feel like the Master becoming who he is when we first meet him should be a gradual progression. Nobody's born evil. Except Daleks.
Best show in the fandom
The...mons...ster...mash..is a bop! GOT IT added to my notes
I know the story is probably not good, but I honestly really like the idea of Susan being a descendant of the Rassilon, and someone adopted by the Doctor.
For one, I like the idea that the Doctor isn't anyone important in the Time Lord society, but Susan is, because it's not what you'd expect based on how we perceive the Doctor and Susan, but there is no reason why she couldn't be. If say a knight was tasked with taking care of the princess, you would see the knight as the person in charge, even though the princess outranks him, she is younger, and he has to take care of her.
And I also have nothing against the idea that Susan is adopted. The real family are the people who actually love you, not the people who made you. Doctor is her grandfather not because he is her mother's father, but because he takes care of her, and loves her.
Anybody remember when Ace called that Asian girl in Battlefield a "Yellow faced, squinty eyed--" then was cut off? Anybody? Just me?
Oh I remembered it, but I understand where it comes from in the context of the scene. Both Characters are influenced by Morgana too reveal the darker sides of their personas, driven by fear and hatred. Racism is an underlying Problem of our society and even non-racist people are familiar with the slures. That she would use those slures in a situation like this, seemed plausible to me. It was still wrong, but it made sense in the context of the Scene.
I do! I'm sure that you wouldn't get away with it today...
And no not just due to SJWs although I'm sure that they'll be the first to complain.
Also I'm 100% sure that they won't let the show have a Companion (or indeed any other sympathetic character) be an expert in explosives, as a hobby no less, or for them to go into the gory details of how to make your own bombs.
@@maxkehm5080 Yeah I know why she said it. I'm kind of glad it's in the episode just because it's so mean and fucked up. Which I'm sickly obsessed with in Doctor who.
Happy Halloween Davis
I can't believe Rassilon could be a vampire. We need that to be confirmed on TV!
Just because the Tardis can go anywhere in time and space doesn't mean that the plot should be taken everywhere in time and space.
Strongly disagree.
We need a Christmas Special atleast!!! Love this series 😁👍
Fully planned!
@@SamyulDavis Please answer the question of whether Santa is real!
I was surprised that being a Halloween video you didn't mention the parody of The Exorcist in the 1001 Nights audio where the 5th Doctor exorcises a demon off of Nyssa saying "the power of Omega compels you"
Hopefully the break won’t be too long!! These are great, thanks
These episodes always make me happy, the humor makes me happy
God I love these videos I swear ur going crazy each upload 🤣🤣🤣
Apparnelty the Lazarus Monster is also a vampire strain somehow.
Oh yeah, I didn't know Necromentia was so hated before listening to it. I remember the cliffhanger and that it had a weird ending, but not much more about it. [tw: rape] Speaking of which isn't there this dodgy scene in the last VNA where Eight is restained somehow and Benny kisses him non-consentually. Then the scene ends very suggestively, which would actually mean that the Doctor got raped by a companion.
I can't believe you forgot to mention the Seventh Doctor had a vampire companion named Olla. I mean, I know everyone forgets Olla, but due to an abnormal introduction to classic Doctor Who I've known about that character for longer than I've known about Mel, Bernice, and possibly even Ace, and as such I think everyone needs to be aware of her.
I also read Birth of A Renegade before I ever saw any classic Doctor Who episodes (except for maybe An Unearthly Child, The Daleks, and the TV movie). So that weird forgotten 80s story is foundational lore to me.
Olla the Heat Vampire?
I'd have never head of her if it wasn't for Doctor Who magazine
@@yee-raplantar-maximoff4318 She wouldn't have existed if not for Doctor Who Magazine. They used her twice and then got rid of her because the editor hated her.
@@themetaphysicalgentleman9677 Yeah, I kind of figured that. Thanks for clarifying!
My favorite thing is when you show an obscure doctor who thing and I know about it.
Brilliant one to end on! You take a well earned rest.
I hope that we don't have to go though an 18 mouth (let alone a 15 year one with a failed pilot and a whole load of other media to fill the void) hiatus.
That would be just too long to wait!
That said however, tank you for uploading this wonderful little series, it's actually gone and made me want to seek out and listen to the Big Finish Audio Dramas (by using a highly dangerous method that only I can carry out safely but yet is extremely 'profitable' and useful for those seeking wisdom if you get what I mean) as you've just got me curious to listen to all the 'madness' contained in them as I have only ever listened to a somewhat limited number of them in the past, chiefly Dalek related ones, all of which I have very much enjoyed.
Not so sure on the books, some of them seem a little too intense for me in places, I have read a small number of them here and there but I might perhaps read some of the short story collections, but aside from them, there not really for me. The old Target books, yes I will one day read them (there is a whole ton of stuff that you could talk about where they differ from the TV stories that they are based on, the adaption of 'The Daleks' chiefly the opening chapters, would be a good place to start) as there are quite a few that I have read in the past all of which I have enjoyed, but some of them I've yet to read, or haven't done so in more than a decade.
As for the comics, well I do LOVE the DWM comic strip and I have read all of the stories collected in the TPBs (I've collected them, off and on, ever since they begun with the 'Iron Legion' TPB back in the 2000s, so I do have a full set of them, and I have in fact not long ago only just 'caught up' with them thanks in no small part to your videos, even though I already had every intention of doing so beforehand) plus a few more besides, plus (partly due to DWCC but mostly due to the Whopix page) I've been reading though all of the old TV Comic/Countdown/TV Action/TV Comic (lets just call them 'Pollystyle') strip stories as well, so it was cool to hear someone talk about those, I would like to hear more of what you have to say about the old 1960s Dalek strips, a series which I just adore and which frankly should be reprinted again now that there's a whole (Iron) Legion of fans who missed out on the 1994 reprint and who may feel unable to resort to the method I've used in order to read those wonderful strips.
However as for the IDW strips and Titan strips I'll have to admit that I actually overlooked those ones (much like the 'Doctor Who Adventures' strips of which I don't really think I'll be bothering with, unless I run out of other stuff to have a gander at) and from your videos, among those of other UA-camrs, I'm somewhat intrigued by them, so I think I'll be looking out for them, as they look interesting.
As I've said before, 'Doctor Who' Canon, in my personal opinion, works best if you think of it as working in a multiverse, yes there are multiple timelines and what not, but often it's best to think of each and every tale put out by licenced individuals and/or companies and the BBC as having the potential as being set in any number of separate universes, in universes the events shown in any given story could play out exactly the same as in other universe, in other cases the said events could play out in any number of different ways, minor or major, or indeed some events might play out in some universes, but not in others. Hence everything is canon, it's just not always set in the same universe.
I'll also add that the medium that any story from the canon doesn't always indicate 'which' universe it is supposed to set in, but like before I've always considered the events shown in the BBC TV show, BBC Minisodes (although I do a few exceptions here and there) BBC spin off TV shows and BBC animations (not all of them you understand), plus (as a personal note) the bulk of the DWM strips (but not all of them) and a number of the Big Finish dramas (but not all of them) and lastly a number of the BBC audios (but NOT all of them you understand) to take place in a 'Prime' universe, for which is the model that I set for the other universes in the Doctor Who multiverse, all other media while amusing 'belongs' to other 'versions' of Our Program.
Anyway, thank you so much for your videos, they really are very informative and often quite funny as I've often giggled along with you, often when you talk about stuff that I know it does amuse me to hear your take on them.
Happy Times and Places.
Man, if there's anything to cover In a future episode it's the Unbound series. The ending to Full Fathom Five... wow.
It’s Halloween. Time to get spooky.
NASA of Traken
I love Monster Mash!
I demand a full Davis cover of the Monster Mash.
If you do not comply with my demand, I will find you, and I will steal your cat.
If you don't have a cat, then I will buy you a cat, and then steal it.
Warmonger is definitely not a 5th Dr novel, no matter what the description is!
Brilliant!
I do think that Nekromanteia isn’t the worst story out there, but it’s definitely one of the most sleazy treatments of one of my favourite casts. It just goes to show that Big Finish isn’t the perfect idealised version of Classic Who people think it is.
No one can deny that Rasilon is spitting facts (literally)
Happy halloween bois, have a spook on me
How did Rose, Nyssa, Tegan etc change back to human/trakenite? Or are there all still vampires?
All of Doctor Who is basicly fanfic of Doctor Who.
you should make a supercut of season 1 cuz youtube loves that sweet watch time
Fun fact Peter Capaldi was almost a vampire
explain lol
@@stephenbutterfield8255 back in like 2013 there was talk he going to be bitten then become a vampire If I can remember the vid I will send it
Ah yes time lord victorious craziness
Merry christmas y'all!
Ah, the Saturnyns. Sexy vampires, and sexy fish women, my two favorite things.
Edit: Sexy vampires, and sexy Timothy Dalton? My two favorite things.
No mention of the Space Vampires (aka The Claws of Axos). Still a great video.
That vampire at 4:27 looks like Piccolo from the Dragon Ball franchise! And which comic book was that where the Ninth Doctor fought vampires? I need to read that one. EDIT: I can't wait for Broke Cannon Series Two!
The 'comic book' was not, in fact, a comic book per say.
It's a comic supplement to Doctor Who Magazine as part of the Time Lord Victorious thing.
Hey this came out on my birthday
I checked, and while Peri doesn't use the N-word herself, she manages to repeat other people saying it EIGHT times. 6 of them are after she says she hates the word.
So, true to the new show it’s a full season plus a holiday special?
didn't even mention the crispy master in the Halloween episode
He doesn't want to gives his viewers too many nightmares.
I loved necromantia. "Dark" Doctor Who is my favorite. Im glad you brought up Erimem because no one talks about her, or C'rizz... or lucie bleedin Miller. Do you have a favotite BF only companion? Mine is Eveyln Smythe.
Molly! Hex and Bliss are also good.
@@SamyulDavis molly is a favotite of mine too! I loved her in Times Horizon, personal favotite of the dark eyes series.
Very drunk
That Intro was appreciated
Where did you read Blood Invocation I want to read it but I cannot for the life of me find a place to
Its in the last Capaldi collection that DWM panini published.
I found this video quite interesting. Does anyone have any recommendations for any particularly dark Who stories?
Childeren of Earth
What did the postman deliver to dracula?
Letters from the fang club!
You talk about vampires a lot, so i thought you might like that joke.
Hey gurl, can we get another one of these this year pleeeeeeeease?
You can have 3. One of them might be half an hour if anyone misbehaves
@@SamyulDavis oooooh you're a star! I just looked and saw that it'd been a whole since broke cannon and thought "hmmm. Maybe something is happening."
Very excited.
Hope one day you can escape the matrix.
"This is somebody's game. And I can't stop playing. A game everybody else has lost. But what I really want to know is... _who's been playing about with canon?"_
*Chibbers slumps forward forebodingly*
I know this is late. But, how about you look into these bit of Doctor Who canon because they are weird.
"The Dalek Emperor from the original Dalek comics is the same one in both Evil of the Daleks and Parting of the Ways. Also, maybe the one in Time Lord Victorious."
"Nicholas Brigg's own Doctor who made he made in his fanfiction is canon."
"The different accounts of Evelyn's departure."
There are a few others, but, those are the ones on top of my head. The Dalek Emperor one is kind of relevant right now.
Where’s Fabian the teenage werewolf?
What were the names of the comics that the vampires and the ninth and war doctors featured in please?
Monstrous Bueaty
I really love nekromantea XD
Has Susan had any regenerations yet? If no that’s a long time to wait
No, because she's literally only appeared like a few times since she left for some reason
She met doctor number eight and fought in the time war
Yeah, warmonger was a... thing. I do hate nekromanteia, even if its reputation is worse than it really is, but id listen to that on repeat for a whole day before reading that thing again. If nekromanteia is F tier that book is fuckin, P tier.
4:14 Fourteen?
6:14 - 6:22 the judge said that was an invalid argument
abzorbaloff.
That's the comment.
Don't speak of his name in such a holy place!
@@stephenbutterfield8255 Holy Place? Abzorbaloff is the one true god! This is his domain!
@@jacobhogan3208 bitch please this comment section is my domain [or it was, man i miss being solider for davis]
I have a theroy that every story that's too beyond stupid even for doctor who happens in the land of fiction prove me wrong!
There's a prediction, by 2050 Cricket will be in the Winter Olympics. Effects of global warming Sam?
We need to talk...
Socially distanced coffee?
Isn't halloween tomorrow?
No. Today
oooOooOooOO spookyyyyyy
@@nightowl8477 no it isn't tho, it 31st
@@stephenbutterfield8255 - oooOoOOo9oo it's a time spook!
You still alive?
Not really
@@SamyulDavis Neither am I man. If it makes you feel any better, I've just turned half my family and all my cousins against me
Maybe the real Peri was the friends we made along the way.
Only real Piscon listeners can understand.
Wut
@@yee-raplantar-maximoff4318 In Peri and the Piscon Paradox multiple Peris are scattered around time and space.
@@user-jn1wm3tb8v Ohhhhhhhhh
I had heard about this, but didn't know which audio it was from. Thanks for clarifying!
@@yee-raplantar-maximoff4318 Np.