BROKE CANON: Scarecrows Killed The 2nd Doctor & Other Weird Facts
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2020
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Fun, weird and obscure facts from the Whoniverse. - Розваги
It would be funny if instead of Zoe and Jamie screaming after the 2nd Doctor dropped the facts, they questioned back saying ‘Ok Doctor, how did you know that if you was exiled to earth and regenerate after your trial?’ The 2nd Doctor starts screaming and fades away, he was an illusion all the time. What a twist
I binged all these Broke Canon videos the other day and I'm so happy there's another one
Same!
Binging rn
Can we talk about how in the novilization of "The Day of the Doctor" one of the War Doctors first thoughts was him adjusting to the color diffrences in his new eyes, and that his first 2 incarnations were both color blind? Thus the show has a "reason" to be in black and white?
Oh for cryin' out loud...
That's in the next one!
@@SamyulDavis rippp
that is stupid and i love it
Terrible fanwanking...
I can see how 13 was able to break out of the Matrix by trying to understand Doctor Who canon. BTW, why wasn't Curse of Fatal Death shown in that sequence, I'm sure you can fit it in somewhere.
Hell I’m surprised we didn’t get Shalka Doctor or Peter Cushing Doctor in there
@@crimsondynamo615Because all of these stories rely on the doctor meeting stuff that he couldn't have met before heart nope because they were consistent They are for some reason when they weren't with the tardis and the doctor's morality
‘90s fans: Seven can’t die from guns!
Mad Larry: What if....
Fun read, though.
Sam: here is some weird facts none of you know.
Whoculture: *FaNs DoNt KnOw ThE TaRdIs Is GrOwN*
Honestly I tried watching their content and it's all just recycled shit from every other "dOcToR wHo AmAzInG fAcT" videos. This right here is the truest doctor who. Off the wall and no fear to fuck up its own canon cause who's keeping track??
As much as it is controversial and I'm certainly glad that The Ancestor Cell retcons it, Interference having the concept of 'changing a past Doctor's regeneration to make future versions a Paradox' is just genius in my opinion, and it's something that I wish was done more. There's just something so original about that concept, and it isn't treated lightly, Eight lost in that story and is infected with a Paradox virus yet he doesn't know it because Doctors 4-7 timelines were perfectly normal and the virus was biding its time.
That said, Planet of the Spiders is one of the most heroic endings for a Doctor, so having that retroactively retconned must have hurt fans and as much as I love it, it was never going to last, so it was best for The Ancestor Cell to restore 3's original death.
This is a show about time travel, why can't we have both?
Technically, every time anything about the past is changed, it should effect the Doctor countless times, because many versions of the Doctor exist in the future. There should be literal legions of possible Doctors galavanting across space-time.
I get the thinking behind it but stories that came out after this built tension simply by being good stories, making massive changes for the shock isn't always a good thing (Timeless Children)
This is why I think Lawrence Miles should be showrunner for Doctor Who.
Honestly you could make a whole video on Faction Paradox and I wouldn't complain.
You could make hundreds of videos on Faction Paradox and still not scratch the surface. Imagine if the War in Heaven was made canon, you’d think the Time Lords have bad luck with them going from one universal devastating war right into another one with the Daleks.
6:26 ah WhoPix, a site I was enjoying reading the comics until he started his anti-Whittaker blogs and attacking anyone who disagreed with him. Good thing I found other methods of getting my Doctor Who TV/Countdown comics fix.
Here's another Broke Canon, all 6 Doctors at the time teamed up to help British Scifi comic strip hero Dan Dare in a special Comic Relief comic as they defeat Dan's enemy the Mekron by............ throwing pies at him.................
A multi-doctor event!
Oh boy, can't wait for some Fraction Paradox madness.
Wonder what would happen if Sam was stuck in a basement with nothing but the doctor who wiki and video making equipment
So my current situation but without the window?
I can do pedantry too. The Timelords didn't wipe Jamie and Zoe's memories of knowing the Doctor, they were memory wiped and put back to the point just before they first started travelling with the Doctor. PS you have to love Wendy Padbury's bubblewrap dress.
You really have one of the best voices on UA-cam, along with some of the best, most encylopedic observations on Who.
Thank you, DAVIS, for everything you do.
*A few suggestions for the next BC episode:*
-Romana wasn't actually in Destiny of the Daleks (see The Lying Old Witch in the Waredrobe)
-The 6th Doctor had a robot cat called Splinx
-Nobody (inside and outside the show) knows what the Eternal Dalek actually does
These are excellent and all new to me. It'll take ages to get round to them, but I'll try to remember crediting you :)
@@SamyulDavis 😃
@Will Oxley 100%. Romana's regeneration in Destiny of the Daleks is another of these "problems" with continuity that is basically just because people take a comedy scene seriously, and so you have different, contradictory accounts across short stories, books and audios as to why Romana's regeneration wasn't normal. It's perfect for one of these.
I’ve always incorporated Splinx into my own head canon!
Love this series. Amazing stuff. And so glad you've finally done 6B!
And best of luck turning this into a full time endeavour. I'll do what I can to support!
lost my shit with "ooooh there is fuckery afoot here."
And what about Devious, that little featurette with an alternate second Doctor before he changes into the third Doctor....?
Is that finished or still in development hell
I hope next episode is a deep dive into Faction Paradox. The War in Heaven is one of my favorite eras of the Eighth Doctor Adventures
It’s not that the makeup department just “didn’t dye his hair”. Troughton’s grey hair in that story was a wig, Robert Holmes wrote it based on the season 6B theory
I thought it came from the discontinuity guide?
Ach now you’re making me justify the little I remember from doctor who twitter 😂, it might not have been called season 6B by 1986, but fans were already theorising about the five doctors Jamie/Zoe problem and it seems like Holmes intended for the story to take place after the war games, with them being on a mission from the time lords and troughton’s wig.
Interesting for it to have already reached Holmes! Very cool.
Troughton famously wasn't wearing a wig in The Two Doctors - he was supposed to, but it got lost in the shipment of items going to the location in Spain, so that's all his own hair. But yeah, nobody seemed to think of dyeing it at the time...
And yet his hair looks much shorter in rehearsal photos, although it could be a question of styling? Very mysterious
Whenever these come out it brings an smile to my face
When you end up throwing up to the drinking game, and then have this gem to deal with the hangover
Another video to put on repeat while gaming, thanks!
HOORAY! I actually knew that fact in the title! Finally!
Apparently when the 3rd Doctor starts to regenerate in Interference, his lasts words were: “A Tear...Sarah Jane?...This is Wrong...”. Christ thats spooky!
I hope Big Finish bring back the Novel Adaptation range and adapt the 2 Interference books.
This makes me imagine twisted versions of all the doctor's final words
It's the end but the moment has not been prepared for
Will I Regenerate
Doctor im
not ready to let you go
That was some serious ood bait dude. I can’t even be arsed to come up with a decent pun. Ood bait... that’s it! That’s literally the best I could come up with.
I liked that bits about the spiders though.
2:00
450 years old: 2nd Doctor
700 years old: 4th Doctor
Niiiiice xD
The list of Season 6B stories are gonna get much larger with Big Finish's 2nd Doctor Adventures.
Season 6B would further allow for the theory that Jo Martin's Doctor could be between Troughton and Pertwee since she says she was working for the Time Lords like 2nd was and her TARDIS has the classic era interior. Could then have Jo Martin appear at the end of the comic The Night Walkers going into her adventures.
Exactly, after regenerating she works for them until she runs away. And after being on earth at somepoint gets caught memory wiped and sent to unit
Question: where did you find that list of all the 6b stories? Am fascinated by some of the titles
Great vid- love the Broke Canon series 🙂
God i love this channel
Hey Young Man - I recently described your videos as one of the best Dr Who commentaries out there - i have to revise that opinion by dropping the "one of the"! I'd describe myself as an inveterate canon denier - but I think your slogan about multiplicities sums things better. It's question of Darwinism and story-telling. Survival of the fittest story - Dr Who is fascinating from a point of view of myth making. Keep up the good work!
I'm fine with season 6 b. It would make sense especially if Time Lords from after his trial simply plucked him out of his timeline moments before his exile. Sort of like how Clara was taken from the moment before her death. It of course doesn't make sense if the Time Lords who passed judgement suddenly changed their minds for a bit. Maybe the Time Lords from "The Three Doctors" didn't send him right back, and instead had him work on side projects first.
I love the weird scarecrow stuff hahaha, I noticed it on the wiki page for the 2nd Doctor
6B is a facinating genre
I didn’t see much of classic who and don’t even plan on doing so, your canon vids are even more funnier when I have no idea wtf are you talking about at aLL
I wonder if you'll do any more alternate regenerations, like that one time the Fifth Doctor regenerated into the Seventh Doctor....
And it's because of the Target Storybook that we have the perfect answer for where Doctor Ruth fits in.
Was the Faction Paradox tease at the end legit? I'm super interested in them for some reason lol
Man
Big Finish is the best
Please do more!!!
nightowllikesyou
this sort of thing is my favorite thing about doctor who
Love me some Faction.
Davis, do a video about how incredible TARDISposting is and how it shits all over any other doctor who facebook page
8:34 I mean, the Twelfth Doctor was still at the University before his adventure with Missy in World Enough and Time. It would probably be pretty awkward if she ended up back there in her new regeneration.
It's weird because well eventually bill shows up. There again through water space lesbian magic
Do you think she has to explain the disappearance of Everybody's favorite professor
More Broke Canon Facts:
Rory Williams was the inspiration for James Bond.
Cod went extinct by 2019.
Darth Vader was a real person.
In another universe, the Doctor's mother was a mermaid.
Bart Simpson was eaten at a space auction.
Bart Simpson, Hulk, and Spider-Man all went to Bonjaxx's birthday party.
I HAD SOME OF THESE PLANNED ALREADY! You're good at this.
wat
I read about Vader and multiple Marvel superheroes existing in the Doctor Who universe recently on the wiki.
Here's three more for you:
The Seventh Doctor fought a Transformers villain and then dropped him off at the Fantastic Four's home, once.
The USA has more than 50 states, and one of them is named for a circle of Hell.
Shakespeare's life is incredibly weird, and he's been impersonated by Christopher Marlowe, Richard III, and the Dalek Emperor at different times.
@@themetaphysicalgentleman9677 and also Shakespeare got kidnapped by the Daleks temporarily before he even wrote any plays in Time of the Daleks... for some reason.
9:50 You know, I was about to jump into the comments and talk about how great this story is... Before I realised that Ancient Whispers from The Centenarian isn't even the same story as the one I had read. There's multiple short stories where the 3rd Doctor gets lost on the way back to UNIT HQ while dying and needs to solve a mystery apparently.
I’m surprised the omen wasn’t a part of the 6B
What happened to the Roman Numerals in the titles?
They were the only things that kept me sane
The ko-fi link in the description doesn't work, just a heads up
Thanks! Fixed
I love broke canon.
Jamie is in quite a powerful stance in this thumbnail
Listen i ain't gay but Jamie a hunk
Wurzel Gummidge's revenge
Pertwee was not popular with large chunks of fandom in the 90s and it seems not even his death changed their views 😊
Series 6B is cannon to me because of The Two Doctors references to gallifrey and the CIA. He’s on a mission from the time lords! It just makes sense.
I don't go into it here, but 7B actually has them either travelling with Victoria OR the timelords tricking Jamie into thinking they've still just dropped Victoria off for bit.
We are 7 minutes in and only now hit fact 2. Wow.
Wait, That Season 6B Story List....
Did That Say...
The Time Museum?
The Big Finish Story With Ian Chesterton?
2 Has Nothing To Do With That
I made the same mistake! There ARE two stories called the time museum, but the Hartnell story with Ian was the Space Museum. Not the most memorable story.
MORE proof is that in a 60's comic strip shows him hiding away and finally being caught by the time lords and being put back in the tardis
Uncle terry 😂
"During the Death in Heaven.."
Do you mean War in Heaven?
My brain has meeeelted
Just in case you didn't know, Big Finish have recently implied in this article about the future of the Monthly Range that they have plans for stories set during 'Season 6B'. Crazy, I know! This is the link to it if you want to read for yourself: www.bigfinish.com/news/v/revamped-doctor-who-audio-ranges-from-big-finish
If Frazier's doing 2, I'm game!
*Doctor Who needs to go post-canon.*
Fuck canon, fuck trying to have Doctor Who make sense, fuck retcons, this is a goddamn show about time travel, and if you told me that the Doctor doesn't have a timeline as much as a time-ball-of-yarn where every incarnation exists simultaneously and every regeneration ends with a half-dozen different potential Doctors, everything would be much better.
Fans and tabloids would have strokes
On second thought I support this idea
I think that people should be able to come up with their own opinion what they think is cannon and what they think isn't cannon.
@@SamyulDavis This isn't a joke, I legitimately think it would he healthy for the series to give up on canon entirely. The SCP Foundation proved it could work just fine, and Doctor Who is a whole disaster already.
The weird ain’t even weird anymore
Questions:
1. How did you get your hands on the Eighth Doctor Novels
2. What is The Music at 9:13
The best (or at least most reliable) way to get your hands on the physical 8th dr novels is just to look on ebay or other online shopping sites and youll find most of them. That being said they can be very expensive. Like, very very expensive. A few of them have been reprinted recently, so those might be a bit less expensive, but the vast majority have not been reprinted.
Of course if you dont mind reading them via pdf then the entire series is on the pirate bay. Naturally i can understand not wanting to do this, but given that almost none of the novels are available to buy legally outside of second-hand copies i think its fine.
Worldofbooks! They're dirt cheap. There's also a Who shop in London that practically has them all.
a human being from the earth dang 😔.
DAVIS ok I’m definitely moving to London. see you there 😎. Are there any other really experimental post revival doctor who stories that aren’t big finish?
Najawin thanks
Anyone else remember when The 5th Doctor popped up in TARDIS while 10 was repairing it? The explanation for his advanced age in that moment is implied to because the two different times within the TARDIS fused together, causing 5 and 10 coexist within the TARDIS at the same time. I've never figured out why they don't just roll with that explanation for previous Doctors being older in other multiple Doctor stories.
"Goodness! I've aged! I'm not meant to pulled out of my time in this fashion!"
It's still a wonky explanation, but at least it doesn't kill the continuity.
Fuuuck the continuity for such petty magic-ruining explanations like that
Have you read 'the lonelyness of a long distance time traveller'? If not, do it now!
Is that a play on Tower Crane Driver?
@@nightowl8477 no idea but its a good book.
3:50 Please consult your doctor before taking series 6B
It may result in hallucinations
Worzel !!! No !!!!
@DAVIS So what series 6B stories would you recommend?
World Game is fun, which makes me excited for the short story in the Target Storybook about it (Terrence Dick's final piece of writing)
Helicon Prime is fine, 5 Doctors is always fun.
And a handful of the TV Comics once Jamies joined, until the novelty wears off at least.
Cheers
@@SamyulDavis since his asking a question.
What are some good horror classic doctor who episodes?
Ghost Light, Curse of Fenric, Web of Fear & Brain of Morbius
@@SamyulDavis thanks
Who knows the many face's of a time lord is it 12 regeneration or 12 hundred for one reality the secret is held inside the matrix and who is the Doctor a little old man who stole a time machine with someone he called his grand daughter this is canon-matrix present(for the first Dr), there's definitely something uncanon in the mix either the timeline and time lords have be messing the origin of the first and second doctors regenerations or someone else I will say either Omega or Davros and the Great Intelligence who did mess the timeline up of every doctor so its possible of the Master is more likely but which one? Who's the real planner of the timeless regeneration effect?
1:00 You can't tell me that Tom Baker Dinosaur Book isn't canon.
It is! In The Kingmaker, 5 says that 4 had a book deal and wrote children's info books under the pen name 'Dr Who'
@@SamyulDavis I mean, if there was a Doc to write children's books, It'd be 4. Or 11. Can possible see late stage Capaldi penning a few as well...
I still like to think 2 regenerated after the War games becausee it was the best end to his doctor.
I still haven't forgotten that you took away those fan edits from us! >:(
They're back :) And hey, don't look at me like it was a hitpiece.
@@SamyulDavis Gasp! Yay!
Don't touch him again! I'm watching you 🤫
His glass ego might just burst
@@carealoo744 I gave his work a great review, his blog is insulting, radicalised nonsense. I think I made peace with the clichéd textbook bigotry just fine.
@@SamyulDavis I didn't mean to offend you in any way. I am simply trying to say that... Like the guy isn't Evil, you know?
Perhaps whatever he said was motivated by fear or loneliness or worry. It's hard to admit that what you did was wrong, especially if you whole heartedly believed that you were doing the right thing.
May I ask if you know if the blog you're talking about is still up somewhere? I'm having difficulty finding it.
Also, I just watched his War Games edit, and I know it was made in 2009, but come on! I need to make a fan edit of this fan edit now where Peter Capaldi's picture is used instead of Richard Hurndall! :)
@DAVIS Do you have any broke canon on specific villains planned?
I get so distracted by these ones, but I'm playing around with scripts for The Silence, Ood(?), the year of 1963 and the Daleks(!!!!!) ideally by New Years to coincide with the special.
@@SamyulDavis Just out of curiosity how messed up would you say the Master's timeline is compared to everything else? Cause I think his is the only one I almost have a complete picture of
Oh god, I despair to look. He is an individual as opposed to a species with ambiguously changing designs, so maybe it'd be fairly simple!
@@SamyulDavis He has about 3 different origins, turned back into the crispy master twice after Ainley. Things definitely get the most complex around the TV movie- Time War part where there's about 5 incarnations. Can only imagine what he was doing during the War in Heaven.
Oh another broke canon video- the Master spent a century as a gangster and called himself "Don Maestro" ...actually that sounds pretty normal tbh
Oh and the Toymaker. That should be a fun one to quickly knock out.
Season 6b is the motherfu##ing bomb! More Troughton! More fun! World games is a grrrrrreat read. His Three Doctors appearance is totally also a 6b explanation.
I have already seen this vid lol. I wasn't even meant to lol.
Season 6B, as long as I'm concerned, isn't canon, but Devious is. 😌
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Thank you Chaotic Bisexual Uncle for this beautiful birthday present
I had my 18th party yesterday too! 😀
Was your's as shit as mine? My dad invited 20 people instead of 10, everyone got drunk, and my friends left out of embarrassment.
But I got a 100 Greatest Movie Bucket List, which you scratch off when you've seen a movie. That's pretty cool.
@@nightowl8477 how many movie did you scratch off.
Did you secc
@@stephenbutterfield8255 - 40! 😀
@@stephenbutterfield8255 - although, Mean Girls is number 25, so I'm not too sure how verifiable the "Greatest" in "100 Greast Movies" is.
Worzel Gummidge killed the 2nd doctor
WTF wasn't "Doctor Who and the Space Pirates"a real story?
wow
POS-its, dude.
Oh yes, I think I had a lecturer who said it that way all the time.
Pat was and remains very popular with the fanbase. Simply put -demand for more stories creates commercial opportunities. And why not. So much better than the current trash from the BBC. Live long Pat 😃😃😃
Set up patreon!! I’d love to fund this 😅
I have a Ko-fi which is better! Its in the description :)
@@SamyulDavis why is KO-FI better?
Patreon takes a cut of donations, is really unstable and screwed its creators over a lot in the last few years. Plus Patreon is more suited for monthly subscription models, whereas I think my stuff is more worth a 'pay what you like' approach.
@@SamyulDavis your my first notification for this channel. Pretty sick
@@SamyulDavis does patreon take from the charity accounts.
Why? Planet of the Spiders is possibly my least favourite Pertwee story (yes I like the Time Monster, yes I know the machine is called TOMTIT) but that final scene is beautiful. Why do you have to ruin it?
Don't worry, it gets retroactively restored in a future story (The Ancestor Cell) so Planet of the Spiders' events still happened
@@englishgiraffe2124 That was written by a different writer, was Miles okay with that being undone?
@Najawin Yeah that was a stupid question. Is there anything Miles hasn't accused of plagiarism?
@Najawin And in the case of the revival it did sort of nick the War in Heaven and turn it into the Time War. Didn't RTD insist he hadn't heard of it?
@Najawin @Ben Warburton I remember RTD in Doctor Who Magazine comparing the War in Heaven and Time War with World War 1 and World War 2 happening within decades of each other. He does also sometimes call it The Last Great Time War, which I always took as a nod to both the BBC Books as well as the Vampire War and lots of other Time Lord incursions. Still, it can't be the same Time War because Alien Bodies says the Enemy is not the Daleks. I think the Time War is plausibly something that happened independently, both Miles and RTD were influenced by the epic war American sci-fi dramas of the time, Babylon 5 for Miles and BSG for RTD.
If there is any Miles influence in New Who, it is Steven Moffat, who said on the now defunct Outpost Gallifrey website, which no longer exists, that Alien Bodies was one of his favorite novels and he doesn't know why Miles harasses him online. I think you can feel its influence on The Pandorica Opens, the S6 arc, Name of the Doctor especially, and Time of the Doctor. I don't know about the rest of Miles' work; Miles tells a possibly apocryphal account that Moffaf told him once "You are just bitter you will never write anything as good as Alien Bodies and deep down you know it."
If true, I doubt Interference et. all had an influence and except maybe Name of the Doctor, I don't think any of them outright rip it off... but I do think Alien Bodies' combination of grandscale mythology with frequent jumps in the timeline and constant humor, in a Doctor Who story ABOUT the Doctor as opposed to an unrelated adventure he stumbles upon, opened Moffat's eyes to the different ways you can tell Doctor Who stories.
HOW DARE YOU THE SECOND DOCTOR DIDN’T GO ON MORE ADVENTURES YOU ARE ALMOST AS BAD AS SERIES 11 RIP DOCTOR WHO
Uh please tell me this is ironic lmao
Ashleigh Carpenter Yeah it is don’t worry lol
@@matty.r23 Oh good, if you really thought that I'd be pretty damn disturbed lol
HAAAAAAA
what in christ's fuck anymore
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@@plantainsame2049 Right?
@@HashbrownMashup what?
@@plantainsame2049 That's what I'm saying!
Boo
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you scary man
Boo
@@matty.r23 BOOO ON YOU JUMPSCARE JUMPSCARE!
what happened to me i used to be a loving husband and good father, now i feel like i am going mental.
Stephen Butterfield you are