That still annoys me so much, we’ve already seen plenty of eevee in the anime, then it just comes along and overshadows yet another Pokémon when it didn’t need to be there.
@@debasritachowdhury5297 Espeon or Leafeon would fit the Best Only Minor characters have those and no Poke girl has ever gotten them Any Eeveelution would work, as long as they retire that stupid ahh electric rat infected with the electric black plague
Chloe is an example how one character was only seen in the background and forgot to give her character developing, which was a mistake. But her design looks adorable so that’s one positive.
Also this may be a unique argument but she seems really privileged as she is the daughter of a Professor, goes to private school yet she squanders all those opportunities to meander not really committing to anything
She didn't even become a Coordinator at the end instead she became an assistant for her father now that Goh and Ash are quitting. The whole point of her arc is that she doesn't want to follow in her father's footsteps and finds something she wants to achieve herself but the pokemon anime team just forgot that
They didnt forget about it, pokemon is still japanese and they dont care about women apart from their looks. Maybe lookup how the culture is for the things you watch before you get dissapointed that another anime is just following their culture
@@aniahliepard again, it's their culture so they have different morals and standards. Do you often go to different countries to complain that the people there act like the people there too?
@@youtubestudiosucks978 I'm sure there are sadly plenty of people who will complain about such a thing but that is not the point here This is a character, a FICTIONAL character, falling in line with what she was trying to avoid in the first place and ultimately having her goals forgotten, when she could've had a full character development instead Like this is literally a fictional world I genuinely don't think it is that deep here...
@youtubestudiosucks978 True but wrong here. Serena is a boy? Nope. A girl. And still good development even tho she s very "girly and trad", she still has a correct development which shows they could have done the same AGAIN with that one Evee girl. They did it once and they could have done it twice, even while their misogynist culture dont stop them
Honestly, Chloe was the perfect opportunity to explore a completely new idea for a Pokegirl. Have Chloe be the one challenging Galar's Gyms. She has the most 'Pikachu' partner in Eevee (which could have been a G-Max Eevee). Her inspiration could have been Ash, who is at his peak in this season and she could explore what she wants to do in life from the Galar Gym Leaders. It would also let all the Galar Gym Leaders appear in Journeys.
I really hated her getting an Eevee because she was the 4th Pokegirl getting an Eevee and I didn’t like Eevee being portrayed as a Pokémon for girls. Plus Eevee was getting so much overexposure while not giving us another Eevolution. I would given Ash an Eevee who would look up to Pikachu and then evolve into Jolteon, finally giving Ash his 2nd electric type Pokémon after 26 years.
I relate to this so much Eevee is supposed to be for both genders but they marketed towards girls, and for that stupid reason they genderlocked Eevee in PMD eos Espeon or Leafeon are the best candidates for Ash imo, they had almost zero screen time in the anime and only some cameos
Or give Brock and Eevee and somehow it accidently evolves into a leafeon, that way he has a pokemon to fight against water types and nobody would expect a rock type gymleader to send-out a grass type pokemon
@@darkdragon7210 it's a newer generation, as long as the mayority of their pokemon is the type their gym is famous for then why shouldnt they be allowed to have a random pokemon of a different type to catch players who expected a certain type pokemon off-guard? Battling Roxanne would be more interesting if instead of a Nosepad she sends out a Medichamp or a Koffing
@@FabBrigade yess, and you need let's Go game to get these gigantamax Also gigantamax pokemon who can evolve cannot evolve (pikachu, Meowth, eevee and recently duralodon that you cannot transfer to SV if it can gigantamax)
Chloe had *SO* much potential at the beginning of Journey's, but once she got Eevee it felt like any form of interesting character growth went out the window since she basically just became the *"Eeveelutions"* character, if the writers didn’t want her to be in a trio with Ash & Goh, they should of just made her stay a minor character or just not include her at all.
@@OrangeToadGamer It's so bad bro. Like ten ten from Naurto even got more attention than Chloe. You're right, Chloe had so much potential but once she was introduced in the anime, it's like the writers just didn't know what to do with her. She was basically just a background character for the entire series
Considering how Eevee can't evolve if it has the Gigantamax factor... Maybe they could have had Chloe discover that her Eevee could Gigantamax. I dunno.
It's baffling how they had SO MANY options to evolve Eevee and didn't pick ANY of them. Even Gigantimax would've done something to develop it, or at least justify why it couldn't evolve. But no. They just completely ignored it and Chloe, making them both a waste of time and ended the legacy of the Pokegirls in the worst way possible. Thank God for Liko.
@@Blossomthegreatandamazing Liko's out there making a huge name for herself, and all of us are very proud of her (ESPECIALLY recent episode (Horizons Episode66)
The worst part is that they had the opportunity to do more with her character: the filler episodes could've been used to create more chances to flesh her out, or at the very least give her more things to do, with or without Ash and Goh, so that she could've at least had more of a chance to shine. It's too bad, too, because she was very underutilized in the series, and Goh's character arc didn't really achieve much of anything particularly meaningful, especially for a character that was meant to be a secondary protagonist. It's because of this that I feel that Goh was arguably handled worse than Chloe: as one of two protagonists, people were at least somewhat invested in seeing Goh succeed on some level, which is why I think was partly why he became as disliked as he was. Chloe, on the other hand, didn't have the same kind of expectations because her presence wasn't felt to nearly the same degree as with Ash and Goh, leaving her feel like she was just kinda-sorta there; but despite that, I actually do think that the way she concluded her character arc was surprisingly satisfactory. What I'm getting at is that she was given her Eevee to try to figure out why it couldn't evolve, and while that was never revealed, it does lean into her eventually deciding to become a Pokemon researcher, which, in turn, may explain her initial dislike of Pokemon: I think that the reason for her not liking Pokemon is partly because she resents her father for putting more time into his research than paying attention to her, causing her to crave love and affection from the parent she feels she's not getting it from. This, in turn, leads to her taking up Pokemon research as a way to better connect with her father; I know this is more of a fan theory than anything, but I do think it provides some much-needed context as to why Chloe is the way she is for most of the series
The fact that we saw her get to know every Eeveelution and wondered what she would evolve Eevee into at the end of the series only for her to keep it as an Eevee in the end felt like a knife to the heart. I get that it might be realistic but it still makes it feel like everything she went through was a waste of time. What a completely pointless character.
@@tvcya2097 Not only that but give her more screen time, give her a goal to achieve, make her travel with Ash and Goh throughout the series like if they would had did that then Chloe would've easily been in conversation as one of the best Pokegirls ever
How to fix Chloe: 1: More screen time/give her own episode for development 2: More interesting character/not a filler character 3: Have a goal to evolve her eevee to the right path (I will be honest I don’t care which eevee evolution just make it happen pls :( )
Missed opportunity to not have Chloe’s eevee be a gigantamax eevee. After all, her whole gimmick was that she was unable to evolve so it would have been a cool concept to have it be revealed that the reason she couldn’t evolve was because she was a G max eevee.
It legitimately feels like they just wanted Goh to be one of the main characters, but HAD to have a female character out of obligation, so they made Chloe more of a side character.
Did anyone else think they intended for her Eevee to evolve into Leafeon? Like, think with me. Only time in the series that she took interest in doing something for herself (that wasnt something copied from a past pokegirl 😶) was an episode about looking after the gardens at her school. Also, when you look at the girl she met who looked just like her but with umbreon and espeon, that girl’s hair in the highlight had like the symbol from umbreon’s head. Chloe has a flower. Thats giving plants to me, so a grass type leafeon to help her out looking after the plants at school, and to parallel that girl in her class with the glaceon, it fits well
wait what? I'm watching journeys now before they take it off Netflix, im all the way up to ultimate and during masters journeys she was in like almost every single episode? Everytime Goh and Ash were about to go out the professor or Chloe herself would pop up and say she should go, i started to think of her as the third of the group because of how often she'd adventure with Goh and Ash, up until she started to consider Eevees evolution possibilities she was in only a couple episodes but after that is constant i feel 🤔
Like the Journeys series, Chloe as a character was a mess since the very beginning. You can tell the writers never knew what to do with her. It felt like for Chloe and the Journeys series, there was a bunch of ideas given but there wasn’t a clear path chosen so it was like the writers made it up as they went along. I can’t even say that she had potential because potential for what?
I think what immediately turned me off about Chloe is when she first noticed Ash injured from an electric attack, and she just shuffled on by annoyedly without even batting an eye. Heartless.
For real, Chloe has also the least screen time then Ash’s other companion. But some some even call her the best girl or even better than Serena despite very short screen time and poorly developt.
What they could've done was at the end of that contest her eevee evolved into a new eevelution like how in the old seasons they would show a sneak peek of a new pokemon in the next region. Like how they showed off Zeraura (not bothering to look up how to spell it) in a sinnoh movie.
I love Eevee, its one of my favorites... But seriously why do all the female characters get Eevees? There are so many adorable Pokemon out there, give them a chance. :
Ok 0:20 no your lying. Dawn and May weren't bossy girls like misty. Dawn legitimately had her own development and was more like female ash that got better overtime. If you really wanna be that guy serena's whole arc started fifty episodes into the series
Yes, they were? They're are entire 10 minute compilations of sassy dawn and may if you want to see for yourself. Even in the beginning of advanced, that was may's nature 😭
The concept of a trainer who was afraid of Pokémon, got over that fear, and flip floping to different paths as a Pokémon trainer trying to find to their gotcha(sorry, been finish up Kamen Rider Gotchard) and what they might want to do is so good on paper. #cloewasdonedirty
Chloe's dislike was more like May and Serena, not Lillie's phobia. Chloe, May, and Serena were more uninterested in pokemon, not truly afraid. She's as much a pokegirl as Delia, Caroline, Johanna, Meyer, Grace, etc. Yeah, the parents. Eevee arc- even learning that it could gigantamax would have been a good ending, too, imo. Studying more examples of each eeveelution would have been interesting, too.
I wouldn't really say that Serena was uninterested about pokemon, I'd say she just preferred performing rather than battles and the gym challenge and such. She didn't really dislike battles either.
@@vixntrickzz At first, she wasn't even interested in that. She didn't really seem to be into anything at first. She was just a girl at home with no goals in life. Then she saw an old friend from summer camp (who didn't recognize her at first), and decided to see him again, and the only way to get out of town was to become a trainer. Shauna introduced her to performing. If she had been more interested in pokemon, she would have been training before Ash returned to her life. Mallow wasn't really into battling, but she had the goal of making her family's restaurant the best it can be. Sophocles isn't as interested in being the top trainer, either, imo, but he has his scientific research and goal of being an astronaut. Serena wasn't even trying to become a top baker, even though she's good at it.
@@jenniferdaniels701 well not really. I think she didn't take the first step before, because her mother wanted her to be a rhyhorn racer. Just seeing ash save the garchomp in lumiose (I think that's when she saw him?) gave her a bit of confidence to be like "I'm setting off!". She was very unhappy about her mom wanting her to be a rhyhorn racer, so even without ash she might've set off anyways. Besides it's not like she disliked battles. She just didn't know what to do after getting Fennekin, and it just so happened, that when she realized, she just wanted to be a performer. Personally, while I really like Serena as a character and I like her contest arc (minus the crush on ash b plot, it's uhh...) I think she should have been a battle focused trainer as well, cause at the time she was the 3rd pokegal doing contests. As for the argument later - just because she likes baking, it doesn't mean she has to become a top baker or something. It's just a little side hobby she likes, just like clemont preparing food for everyone. (Yet he doesn't want to be a chef, of course. Because his main thing is inventing and being the lumiose gym leader.)
@@vixntrickzz Grace pushed her into ryhorn racing because Serena needed to do something, not just sit around. The goal didn't have to be pokemon related, just a goal she's working toward. Baking, designing clothes like Valerie outside the gym, business, science, contests, training, I don't care. I just don't see Serena as having any kind of goal until Shauna tells her about performing and shows her what it's like.
I like the idea that she’s trying different things because she wants to find her way and how in theory the eevee arch ties into that. It feels like wasted potential for Pokémon to introduce a new eeveelution, or have eevee evolve into a sylveon that’s a regional variant.
I do find it cool for Chloe to have an Eevee, but the way she had it so easily, not evolving it, AND have no character development really screwed her up.
Meh, I think Chloe is actually an interesting character, but the writers just didn't seem to want to include her. Goh just doesn't work for what Journeys was doing with the duo protag thing imo. Honestly if Chloe was a part of the group in journeys I think it would have made for a much less bland dynamic than just Ash and Goh.
4:47 this was literally a copy paste from the Dawn look alike back in the Diamond and Pearl series, the one that Give Dawn her Togekiss after winning a contest.
To be honest the reason why I don't like her that much Is not because of these things, it's because she always downplays, or how she reacted everything Ash and Goh did. It was annoying for me to see her in an episode.
I really want to like Chloe. Her situation of not knowing what to do for a living is VERY relatable, but the writers give her so little to do that by the time her arc concludes, it didn’t feel like she did anything to become a researcher, y’know, the thing she absolutely didn’t want to do. She was super fragmented from the rest of the series even though they plant her and Goh having a past at the very start, which really hurt her in the long run
Chloe didn’t developt her character so much, sure she decided to be a Pokémon researcher just like her dad at the last episode but that dosen’t work at all.
@@natalimoinayou're the only one who's objectively wrong. If scum like you cannot see bad writing or in this case, failed experiments when they're blatantly obvious, then you have no common sense whatsoever
I like Chloe but her getting Eevee was boring, I liked her story of not liking Pokémon and then starting to like them, Her not wanting to be labeled as a trainer/professor just cause her dad is was an interesting idea but as SOON as she got Eevee it was instantly boring, The whole seeing other eevelution trainers got boring and they just recycled other character ideas, RIP Yamper, as soon as Chloe caught Eevee and forgot Yamper it was over
thank you for making this video, you've probably seen my comments before and that I think she's an amazing character just written and handled poorly. She had so much potential for being a great character and they decided to not work with her unless they needed to to basically get a filler episode in. I wish they would have done more with her but I can only wish. At least I can read stories/fanfics of her actually getting good character development. Great video can't wait to see the next, also I love your art of all the characters on your thumbnails, the Chloe one is so cute
The sad part about Chloe is that I actually found her story to be more interesting than Goh. Because of how much pressure she faced about her peers thinking that she'll be a Pokemon professor like her dad, she becomes repellent of Pokemon and people who are crazy about Pokemon like Goh and especially Ash. Like during their first meeting after Yamper shocked him, she doesn't even bother checking to see if he's ok, just ignores him and moves on. While I'm glad she's become less repellent about Ash and Pokemon and even managed to get her own pokemon, but as time went on and they fail to give her more pokemon and she only is motivated to find more eeveelutions, she feels less like a character and more of a plot device to show off all the eevee evolutions. And even her own focused episodes it feels like the side characters get more focus than her, especially during her climax with her own dad. And the worst part, at the end of it she becomes the new research fellow after Goh and Ash leaves and tries to follow her dad's footsteps. THE VERY THING SHE DIDN'T WANT TO DO!
I hate this character so much because she wastes so much of Journeys that already had too much filler. She’s so boring too, constantly getting outshined by guest characters in her solo episodes, and her basic “journey” is so bare bones and takes too long. You can tell they gave her an Eevee cause they needed to do SOMETHING exciting with her.
In fact, in the episode before the Master 8 finale there is a recap of her storyline and she said she wants to be a professor like her a father, at least that's what I heard in reviews.
@danielawytte3228 Yeah but since Chloe is an introvert and barely ever traveled with Ash and Goh, I mean I'm not sure how they are supposed to be friends
2:31 Yeah, honestly, I would've just bitten the bullet and let her join. Would've helped to get rid of a LOT of unneeded filler. To give an example on how it could've been avoided: I've made small progress on a document of a Pokemon Journeys rewrite, might take some points from your video to help with that so thanks in advance. In it, Chloe ends up joining Ash around the time Ash battles with Korrina in Journeys. She doesn't even need to be around all the time, just slightly often! I also took the liberty in it so far, to put the episode where Chloe catches Eevee, before Ash even catches Dragonite (altering things drastically to fit the story). It her mostly has her join early on to give her more flexibility with screen time, and avoid unnecessary filler, and also change some things to make her unique, like maybe a mental disability!
I feel like the writers kinda dug their own grave when it came to Chloe. Some say she should've been a performer, but I feel like that's too rehashy (is that a word) of May, Dawn, and Serena. I saw someone else point out that she could've had a G-Max Eevee and challenge all of Galar's gyms bc the region got sidelined pretty badly. I would've given Eevee to Ash and let it become an Espeon to match Manga Red. On top of that, her whole thing was that she didn't want to follow in her father's footsteps, but that's what she ended up doing. That's like if Serena became a Rhyhorn racer at the end of XY. I don't like that. Just like her series, Chloe could've been the best Pokegirl ever, but she fell victim to bad writing and became a pile of wasted potential. Sorry abt the long read.
Honestly. Journeys is basically the BWBA of Pokémon. Both Big World Big Adventures and Journeys tried to have the main character (Thomas the Tank Engine for BWBA, and Ash and Goh for Journeys) traveling the world. And both are underwhelming and pretty bad. Journeys did nothing with the new content and basically clung onto nostalgia, Kanto and Filler for most of its run. BWBA did the opposite, ditching the roots of the show (Edward and Henry being kicked from the main cast, Realism being a mess.) in favor of newer flashier things. Thing is I actually can tolerate BWBA. Journeys on the other hand frustrates me with how it’s the GEN 8 ANIME AND IT DID BASICALLY NOTHING WITH GEN 8. We got the bare minimum for Gen 8 in the Gen 8 anime, with an arc for Sword and Shield, a special for BDSP, and a special for Legends Arceus, as well as the Galar Starters. But most of the Galar stuff was ignored, heck we don’t even have the Galar Starters together at the same time outside of “the world of Pokémon” Segments, something that has never happened before or since in the anime. Journeys just makes me angry.
I know and then all these new episodes try and give Nia and Rebecca as much screentime as possible while Edward and Henry just fade away in the background! It's very clear some of the episode plots feel very rushed since season 21 only had 18 episodes instead of the usual 26. It's obvious they wanted to get season 21 out of the way so they could roll BWBA into the market!
Journeys could have introduced Virgil from Unova fans would have got a battle with Ash and also Chloe could have got character development also Journeys should have shown Chloe with GMax Evee as a proper conclusion
Chloes my least favorite pokegirl too. I gave her time when jn came around but i wasnt interested in her. And even i think having that episode during the masters 8 was not a good idea. I love her friendship with dawn and serena but chloe was treated poorly
Like you said I find it really odd that she just met random people’s eeveelutions because all you have to do is just be like “oh btw this water type specialist ash battled and became friends with in the past has a vaporeon.” Like I swear when ash met Wallace in that episode where Chloe had a contest and met Serena she could’ve also chatted to Wallace about Vaporeon
I wouldn't say she's the worst pokegirl in Pokemon history. It's not her fault that her potential was screwed around by the decisions of the writers. Just a very bad missed opportunity.
@@natalimoina Screw you. Take your “wrong” and shove it. Got it? Just because my answer doesn’t suit whatever you think is right, doesn’t make it wrong.
@@natalimoina Let me make something clear to you, whoever you are: just because I have my own thoughts about what I watch doesn't mean that it's wrong. And especially because of something like you coming up here and spouting off. If you don't like my answer, I couldn't care less. So goodbye and good riddance.
The thing that frustrates me is that Chloe could’ve been soooo good. If she was a more frequent companion to Ash and Goh and more clearly shown to have a fear of change, it could’ve made her story with Eevee not evolving an interesting allegory for not wanting to grow up and being unsure or afraid to commit to a certain path in life. Maybe she’s even hesitant to catch Eevee because she’s so used to being around Yamper. She could’ve paralleled Goh and his drive to go into the world and achieve impossible goals with her almost pessimistic realism, and act as a “straight man” comedically to Ash’s brighter side and Goh’s shenanigans. And that’s not even mentioning how they could’ve rewritten Goh and her dynamic, or given a deeper dynamic to her and Ash, since they barely interact. If it weren’t for her being in the Journeys intro, you’d think she was a side character as important as the rest of her family, not a secondary protagonist! GOH IS MORE OF A POKEGIRL THAN HER (which that’s getting into an opposite problem), and HE’S NOT A GIRL (and also very bland). Cut her out and you don’t miss much in the current iteration of Journeys; but develop her, and she arguably could’ve been one of the best.
Chloe could've had so much more positives than just her design which is the only thing that i really like about her and i feel like it was a missed oppurtunity on pokemons end that they didnt give her more character development, also not evolving her eevee was a bad desision i feel like they could have done so much more with it like they could've introduced a new eeveelution since its been a while since we've had a good eeveelution
Her Eevee is Probably my Least favourite Eevee Partner. What was the Point Of Her Eevee!? It couldn't Evolve which means it Must've been able Gigantamax. Which they didnt Do Anything With!
I think a problem with choosing Espeon is if the only reason why you can feel relaxed about not knowing what your future holds is due to your Pokemon being able to know it for you, ultimately that's knowing what your future holds in a sense. You can take comfort in that your future is known to someone or something. That kind of comfort needs to come without having a clear sign that you can know the future or you will always be dependent on that clear sign, it'll be a crutch.
I was hoping her Eevee would have evolved into a new type as it could have parallel her not knowing what to do in her life. The answers aren't always discovered.
Her character would have been a great way to bring back old characters: Literally could have just brought back Virgil for every eeveelution at once Or Anabel - Espeon Gladion - Umbreon Serena - Sylveon Zoey - Leafeon I would say May for Glaceon, but her voice actor couldn't return, so I respect the decision to just give her a cameo. If the original trio maybe the Eevee brothers? Volkner - Jolteon Flint - Flareon (he has one in the games, and it would've been cool since he is an elite four) Alima could have showcased the eevee z move. I personally think Chloes eevee should have gotten to Gigantimax. That would've made it special. So many missed opportunities
If I had a nickle for when a kids show added a character named Chole that added basically nothing, I'd have 2 nickles. Which isn't alot, but it's weird that happened twice.
Honestly, I would play into the fact that it can't evolve and let it be a representative of the Let's Go Eevee. She could be mentored by an Eevee specialist to use the special moves from those games like Glitzy Glow and Bouncy Bubble. Also, I'd have Chloe find her place in Max Raids, not as an offensive specialist, but support, focusing on helping others calm the Dynamaxed pokemon down. It's weird how this show did Galar's storyline, but I don't remember them doing Max Raids.
I know this comment is old but the reason why I'm upset that Chloe's Eevee never evolved is because during the series it was literally implying that it would be. I think it would have been a nice touch if when Chloe finds out her path her Eevee evolves to match that career or something like that. Besides we already had an Eevee that didn't evolve which was Lana's AKA Sandy. I only cared about Chloe because of her Eevee.
I do love Cherami Leigh, but Chloe is her weakest role, along with that CGI mini power rangers or bug series. Ironically, we do get a "better" Chloe, and it's in the mirror universe episode.
At this point, I'm convinced Chloe only got an Eevee in order to showcase the species' new gender differences. Because, from what I heard, the Eevee arc was incredibly weak, and, let's face it, we had had 25 years to get to know each Eeveelution and what they could do. We didn't need an unresolved, or at least poorly resolved, arc about an Eevee that can't evolve. Especially when it's nothing more but a heavy-handed metaphor about indecisiveness.
The real victim here is Yamper, once Eevee came along it got screwed over.
FR BRUH YAMPER GOT COOKED 😭
That still annoys me so much, we’ve already seen plenty of eevee in the anime, then it just comes along and overshadows yet another Pokémon when it didn’t need to be there.
Wampachi, our beloved...
I'm still pissed about that tbh
@@scootermcpeanuts6699 Even Worse they Never gave it a New Evolution!!!
A lil tired of pokegirls getting eevee too ngl
Same
Just give Ash an Eevee, Pikamid needs to retire
I wonder what Eeveelution Ash would've evolved his Eevee into
@@SMCwasTaken I would like Ash to have an Espeon or an Umbreon...these two suit him the best
@SMCwasTaken nah I'm just tired of eevee in general
@@debasritachowdhury5297 Espeon or Leafeon would fit the Best
Only Minor characters have those and no Poke girl has ever gotten them
Any Eeveelution would work, as long as they retire that stupid ahh electric rat infected with the electric black plague
Chloe suffered from too little development
While Goh suffered from too much
REAL
Watch electro Pikachu's what if I wrote Pokemon journeys it's sooo goood
@@Pokiiii62too much development that we never finish his story bc of ash finally being champion
Damn.
@@caribou3552 definitely
Chloe is an example how one character was only seen in the background and forgot to give her character developing, which was a mistake. But her design looks adorable so that’s one positive.
Very true bro
Also this may be a unique argument but she seems really privileged as she is the daughter of a Professor, goes to private school yet she squanders all those opportunities to meander not really committing to anything
@@Muta123and yet commits to the ONE THING she DIDN'T LIKE people assuming her about!
Yeah i had a crush on her for a while
Looks better with her hair down honestly.
If Chloe never got Eevee the writers probably would've forgotten her
Bro real 😭
Why didn't they give her why didn't they give her a Togepi
@stephvondames6369 why baby egg baby egg is way more remarkable way better markable
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Ironically enough, I think Chloe getting an eevee made her more forgettable.
She didn't even become a Coordinator at the end instead she became an assistant for her father now that Goh and Ash are quitting. The whole point of her arc is that she doesn't want to follow in her father's footsteps and finds something she wants to achieve herself but the pokemon anime team just forgot that
They didnt forget about it, pokemon is still japanese and they dont care about women apart from their looks.
Maybe lookup how the culture is for the things you watch before you get dissapointed that another anime is just following their culture
@@youtubestudiosucks978 I think they're allowed to be disappointed when their whole character arc was just thrown in a dumpster in the end
@@aniahliepard again, it's their culture so they have different morals and standards. Do you often go to different countries to complain that the people there act like the people there too?
@@youtubestudiosucks978 I'm sure there are sadly plenty of people who will complain about such a thing but that is not the point here
This is a character, a FICTIONAL character, falling in line with what she was trying to avoid in the first place and ultimately having her goals forgotten, when she could've had a full character development instead
Like this is literally a fictional world I genuinely don't think it is that deep here...
@youtubestudiosucks978 True but wrong here. Serena is a boy? Nope. A girl. And still good development even tho she s very "girly and trad", she still has a correct development which shows they could have done the same AGAIN with that one Evee girl. They did it once and they could have done it twice, even while their misogynist culture dont stop them
Honestly, Chloe was the perfect opportunity to explore a completely new idea for a Pokegirl. Have Chloe be the one challenging Galar's Gyms. She has the most 'Pikachu' partner in Eevee (which could have been a G-Max Eevee). Her inspiration could have been Ash, who is at his peak in this season and she could explore what she wants to do in life from the Galar Gym Leaders. It would also let all the Galar Gym Leaders appear in Journeys.
BRO THATS ACTUALLY SO SMART
It baffles me that the fans (like you) can come up with something better than the writer(s) themselves. 💀
OH MY GOD YES
Bro your brain! It’s massive
I want so hard to see that happening 😭😭😭😭
I really hated her getting an Eevee because she was the 4th Pokegirl getting an Eevee and I didn’t like Eevee being portrayed as a Pokémon for girls. Plus Eevee was getting so much overexposure while not giving us another Eevolution. I would given Ash an Eevee who would look up to Pikachu and then evolve into Jolteon, finally giving Ash his 2nd electric type Pokémon after 26 years.
I relate to this so much
Eevee is supposed to be for both genders but they marketed towards girls, and for that stupid reason they genderlocked Eevee in PMD eos
Espeon or Leafeon are the best candidates for Ash imo, they had almost zero screen time in the anime and only some cameos
I actually didn't mind that, the problem became more it didn't evolve into a new Eevelution!!! 👿👿👿👿
Or give Brock and Eevee and somehow it accidently evolves into a leafeon, that way he has a pokemon to fight against water types and nobody would expect a rock type gymleader to send-out a grass type pokemon
@@youtubestudiosucks978 Can a Gym Leader do that?
@@darkdragon7210 it's a newer generation, as long as the mayority of their pokemon is the type their gym is famous for then why shouldnt they be allowed to have a random pokemon of a different type to catch players who expected a certain type pokemon off-guard?
Battling Roxanne would be more interesting if instead of a Nosepad she sends out a Medichamp or a Koffing
You're telling me they introduced an Eevee that couldn't evolve. THEN NEVER TOLD US WHY IT CAN'T EVOLVE NOR MADE IT EVOLVE!? What!?
Its simple
That eevee is from let's go
@@babyseal8822Maybe or maybe not
@@babyseal8822 Either that or it can Gigantamax.
I'm pretty sure in one episode they explained that it couldn't evolve since Eevee's DNA was a bit more unstable than a regular Eevee.
@@FabBrigade yess, and you need let's Go game to get these gigantamax
Also gigantamax pokemon who can evolve cannot evolve (pikachu, Meowth, eevee and recently duralodon that you cannot transfer to SV if it can gigantamax)
alternative title: the most wasted potential in a pokegirl ever.
Wrong obviously
The most wasted of them all.
Chloe had *SO* much potential at the beginning of Journey's, but once she got Eevee it felt like any form of interesting character growth went out the window since she basically just became the *"Eeveelutions"* character, if the writers didn’t want her to be in a trio with Ash & Goh, they should of just made her stay a minor character or just not include her at all.
@@OrangeToadGamer It's so bad bro. Like ten ten from Naurto even got more attention than Chloe. You're right, Chloe had so much potential but once she was introduced in the anime, it's like the writers just didn't know what to do with her. She was basically just a background character for the entire series
Even her Eevee got more attention and was more intresting.
@@mattiasolsson1523 Facts bro like that's so embarrassing
@@Kings0424
If Goh had Eevee and with the other Eevee evolution would be more intresting, no Chloe need it.
@@mattiasolsson1523 Facts bro
Ash should've gotten an Eevee
I'll never forgive the writers for teasing us with those eevee shorts in USUM
@@parvkaurav7973I think USUM was great, much better than Journeys.
@@parvkaurav7973That anime was great. People beat on it for artstyle, but it had plenty of great moments in it.
Considering how Eevee can't evolve if it has the Gigantamax factor... Maybe they could have had Chloe discover that her Eevee could Gigantamax. I dunno.
R.I.P to Rachel Lillis the voice actor who played Misty and Jessie from Pokemon she will be miss.
It's baffling how they had SO MANY options to evolve Eevee and didn't pick ANY of them. Even Gigantimax would've done something to develop it, or at least justify why it couldn't evolve.
But no. They just completely ignored it and Chloe, making them both a waste of time and ended the legacy of the Pokegirls in the worst way possible. Thank God for Liko.
I know right? why do a whole story arc for chloe's eevee if your not going to give the reason at all? that made me really disappointed
Now liko gonna take over and become the strongest one lol
Yess W Liko
LMAO y'all are so moronic, absolutely 0 media literacy
@@Blossomthegreatandamazing Liko's out there making a huge name for herself, and all of us are very proud of her (ESPECIALLY recent episode (Horizons Episode66)
She needed more love from the anime writers...
@@lohigrov I agree because the writers really gave up on Chloe
We honestly only needed Ash as an mc. Having 3 characters in the spotlight really ruined Ash’s final series.
@@Grim0XVr That's so true
The worst part is that they had the opportunity to do more with her character: the filler episodes could've been used to create more chances to flesh her out, or at the very least give her more things to do, with or without Ash and Goh, so that she could've at least had more of a chance to shine. It's too bad, too, because she was very underutilized in the series, and Goh's character arc didn't really achieve much of anything particularly meaningful, especially for a character that was meant to be a secondary protagonist. It's because of this that I feel that Goh was arguably handled worse than Chloe: as one of two protagonists, people were at least somewhat invested in seeing Goh succeed on some level, which is why I think was partly why he became as disliked as he was. Chloe, on the other hand, didn't have the same kind of expectations because her presence wasn't felt to nearly the same degree as with Ash and Goh, leaving her feel like she was just kinda-sorta there; but despite that, I actually do think that the way she concluded her character arc was surprisingly satisfactory. What I'm getting at is that she was given her Eevee to try to figure out why it couldn't evolve, and while that was never revealed, it does lean into her eventually deciding to become a Pokemon researcher, which, in turn, may explain her initial dislike of Pokemon: I think that the reason for her not liking Pokemon is partly because she resents her father for putting more time into his research than paying attention to her, causing her to crave love and affection from the parent she feels she's not getting it from. This, in turn, leads to her taking up Pokemon research as a way to better connect with her father; I know this is more of a fan theory than anything, but I do think it provides some much-needed context as to why Chloe is the way she is for most of the series
She didn't. She needed more intelligence from the fandom
The fact that we saw her get to know every Eeveelution and wondered what she would evolve Eevee into at the end of the series only for her to keep it as an Eevee in the end felt like a knife to the heart. I get that it might be realistic but it still makes it feel like everything she went through was a waste of time. What a completely pointless character.
I feel like if Galar have new eevee evolution. Chloe would have been a more interesting person
FRRRR GREAT POINT ACTUALLY!
@@tvcya2097 Not only that but give her more screen time, give her a goal to achieve, make her travel with Ash and Goh throughout the series like if they would had did that then Chloe would've easily been in conversation as one of the best Pokegirls ever
How to fix Chloe:
1: More screen time/give her own episode for development
2: More interesting character/not a filler character
3: Have a goal to evolve her eevee to the right path (I will be honest I don’t care which eevee evolution just make it happen pls :( )
@@tvcya2097 Facts bro
Sword and shield wouldve been a perfect time for a steel type eevee but they missed the opportunity
Missed opportunity to not have Chloe’s eevee be a gigantamax eevee. After all, her whole gimmick was that she was unable to evolve so it would have been a cool concept to have it be revealed that the reason she couldn’t evolve was because she was a G max eevee.
It legitimately feels like they just wanted Goh to be one of the main characters, but HAD to have a female character out of obligation, so they made Chloe more of a side character.
She isn't a main character, smart guy
@natalimoina that's what they said. Stupid😊
all she needed was screen time to make her character feel more fleshed out
Fr bruh
No
Did anyone else think they intended for her Eevee to evolve into Leafeon? Like, think with me. Only time in the series that she took interest in doing something for herself (that wasnt something copied from a past pokegirl 😶) was an episode about looking after the gardens at her school.
Also, when you look at the girl she met who looked just like her but with umbreon and espeon, that girl’s hair in the highlight had like the symbol from umbreon’s head. Chloe has a flower. Thats giving plants to me, so a grass type leafeon to help her out looking after the plants at school, and to parallel that girl in her class with the glaceon, it fits well
Honestly I don’t consider her a pokegirl;she got like 3 episodes of screen times a season and that’s it
@@Roman-Noodlez 100% true
You could say that but she had an entire arc dedicated to her so I wouldn't say she wasn't
Chloe was just a way to introduce every Eevee’s evolution in Journeys.
@@mattiasolsson1523but eevee is not a new Pokémon we knew it from gen 1 these arc was unnecessary it was not interesting too
wait what? I'm watching journeys now before they take it off Netflix, im all the way up to ultimate and during masters journeys she was in like almost every single episode? Everytime Goh and Ash were about to go out the professor or Chloe herself would pop up and say she should go, i started to think of her as the third of the group because of how often she'd adventure with Goh and Ash, up until she started to consider Eevees evolution possibilities she was in only a couple episodes but after that is constant i feel 🤔
I wish Chloe was handled better by the writers. 😭
@@雪者 I agree
Same bruh 😭
Yeah 😢
Nothing better than perfect.
@@natalimoina No it's not. Chloe was terrible and poorly written
Like the Journeys series, Chloe as a character was a mess since the very beginning. You can tell the writers never knew what to do with her. It felt like for Chloe and the Journeys series, there was a bunch of ideas given but there wasn’t a clear path chosen so it was like the writers made it up as they went along. I can’t even say that she had potential because potential for what?
No reading comprehension like the rest huh?
@@natalimoinano clue about bad writing huh? You're the one with no comprehension scum
She had potential 🙏😭
But the anime forgot about.
ALSO THAT FACT THAT SHE GOT TO SEE ASH COMPETE IN THE MASTERS 8 AND NOT SOMEONE ELSE IS A CRIME!!!!
Stop the nonsense
I think what immediately turned me off about Chloe is when she first noticed Ash injured from an electric attack, and she just shuffled on by annoyedly without even batting an eye.
Heartless.
Even ten ten from Naruto got more screen time than her
Fr 😭
Thx for the highlight
@@NotGabriel-s4b OMG for real. I forgot about ten ten in Naurto
For real, Chloe has also the least screen time then Ash’s other companion. But some some even call her the best girl or even better than Serena despite very short screen time and poorly developt.
@@mattiasolsson1523 Those people who says that Chloe is better than Serena is delusional
Fun fact:Chloe japanese dub was voiced by kana hanazawa. Like how they got a top tier seiyu for such a minor character like this😭
Her eng dub is also amazing 😭
Cherami Leigh is phenomenal
What they could've done was at the end of that contest her eevee evolved into a new eevelution like how in the old seasons they would show a sneak peek of a new pokemon in the next region. Like how they showed off Zeraura (not bothering to look up how to spell it) in a sinnoh movie.
Chloe had potential close to Dawn and May. Ended up down the drain in last place next to Iris as Pokegirl in the series.
Iris is Unova Champion in Chloe's series. Your words are invalid.
Embarassed yourself twice over
I love Eevee, its one of my favorites... But seriously why do all the female characters get Eevees? There are so many adorable Pokemon out there, give them a chance. :
Example: Lana could've had a Spheal
She was the one with the eevee too, but May, Serena, and the Water girl from Sun and Moon did a better job with it.
🤡
Yes
May and Serena, yes. Lana's Eevee was almost equally as useless
Remember when we Thought that eevee will became a new eeveelution? Only for us to realize that its lets go eevee
Yamper just being a straight up Corgi is hilarious
He's a cutie pie
Ok 0:20 no your lying.
Dawn and May weren't bossy girls like misty. Dawn legitimately had her own development and was more like female ash that got better overtime.
If you really wanna be that guy serena's whole arc started fifty episodes into the series
Yes, they were? They're are entire 10 minute compilations of sassy dawn and may if you want to see for yourself. Even in the beginning of advanced, that was may's nature 😭
@@Pokiiii62 Facts bro
The concept of a trainer who was afraid of Pokémon, got over that fear, and flip floping to different paths as a Pokémon trainer trying to find to their gotcha(sorry, been finish up Kamen Rider Gotchard) and what they might want to do is so good on paper. #cloewasdonedirty
Even Ash's arc didn't go anywhere. Such terrible finale for Pokémon.
Chloe's dislike was more like May and Serena, not Lillie's phobia. Chloe, May, and Serena were more uninterested in pokemon, not truly afraid.
She's as much a pokegirl as Delia, Caroline, Johanna, Meyer, Grace, etc. Yeah, the parents.
Eevee arc- even learning that it could gigantamax would have been a good ending, too, imo. Studying more examples of each eeveelution would have been interesting, too.
I wouldn't really say that Serena was uninterested about pokemon, I'd say she just preferred performing rather than battles and the gym challenge and such. She didn't really dislike battles either.
@@vixntrickzz At first, she wasn't even interested in that. She didn't really seem to be into anything at first. She was just a girl at home with no goals in life. Then she saw an old friend from summer camp (who didn't recognize her at first), and decided to see him again, and the only way to get out of town was to become a trainer. Shauna introduced her to performing. If she had been more interested in pokemon, she would have been training before Ash returned to her life.
Mallow wasn't really into battling, but she had the goal of making her family's restaurant the best it can be. Sophocles isn't as interested in being the top trainer, either, imo, but he has his scientific research and goal of being an astronaut. Serena wasn't even trying to become a top baker, even though she's good at it.
@@jenniferdaniels701 well not really. I think she didn't take the first step before, because her mother wanted her to be a rhyhorn racer. Just seeing ash save the garchomp in lumiose (I think that's when she saw him?) gave her a bit of confidence to be like "I'm setting off!". She was very unhappy about her mom wanting her to be a rhyhorn racer, so even without ash she might've set off anyways.
Besides it's not like she disliked battles. She just didn't know what to do after getting Fennekin, and it just so happened, that when she realized, she just wanted to be a performer.
Personally, while I really like Serena as a character and I like her contest arc (minus the crush on ash b plot, it's uhh...) I think she should have been a battle focused trainer as well, cause at the time she was the 3rd pokegal doing contests.
As for the argument later - just because she likes baking, it doesn't mean she has to become a top baker or something. It's just a little side hobby she likes, just like clemont preparing food for everyone. (Yet he doesn't want to be a chef, of course. Because his main thing is inventing and being the lumiose gym leader.)
@@vixntrickzz Grace pushed her into ryhorn racing because Serena needed to do something, not just sit around. The goal didn't have to be pokemon related, just a goal she's working toward. Baking, designing clothes like Valerie outside the gym, business, science, contests, training, I don't care. I just don't see Serena as having any kind of goal until Shauna tells her about performing and shows her what it's like.
I like the idea that she’s trying different things because she wants to find her way and how in theory the eevee arch ties into that. It feels like wasted potential for Pokémon to introduce a new eeveelution, or have eevee evolve into a sylveon that’s a regional variant.
I do find it cool for Chloe to have an Eevee, but the way she had it so easily, not evolving it, AND have no character development really screwed her up.
Objectively wrong, typical
I can defend Goh all day but Chloe is just inexcusable
LOL TRUE!
Meh, I think Chloe is actually an interesting character, but the writers just didn't seem to want to include her. Goh just doesn't work for what Journeys was doing with the duo protag thing imo. Honestly if Chloe was a part of the group in journeys I think it would have made for a much less bland dynamic than just Ash and Goh.
Only if you don't understand anything
Honestly I was expecting Chloe's eevee to evolve into some new eeveelution, especially since we haven't gotten one in the games for a while.
Wow, I know another character who goes by the name Chloe and absolutely everyone hated her fairly odd parents.
4:47 this was literally a copy paste from the Dawn look alike back in the Diamond and Pearl series, the one that Give Dawn her Togekiss after winning a contest.
They did the whole eevee doesn't know what it wants ark better in the first season of Kanto in ONE episode.
To be honest the reason why I don't like her that much Is not because of these things, it's because she always downplays, or how she reacted everything Ash and Goh did. It was annoying for me to see her in an episode.
I really want to like Chloe. Her situation of not knowing what to do for a living is VERY relatable, but the writers give her so little to do that by the time her arc concludes, it didn’t feel like she did anything to become a researcher, y’know, the thing she absolutely didn’t want to do. She was super fragmented from the rest of the series even though they plant her and Goh having a past at the very start, which really hurt her in the long run
@@smackjack78 For real like the writers gave up on Chloe
Very relatable indeed, writers fumbled so hard
Chloe didn’t developt her character so much, sure she decided to be a Pokémon researcher just like her dad at the last episode but that dosen’t work at all.
Objectively wrong, no surprise
@@natalimoinayou're the only one who's objectively wrong. If scum like you cannot see bad writing or in this case, failed experiments when they're blatantly obvious, then you have no common sense whatsoever
I like Chloe but her getting Eevee was boring, I liked her story of not liking Pokémon and then starting to like them, Her not wanting to be labeled as a trainer/professor just cause her dad is was an interesting idea but as SOON as she got Eevee it was instantly boring, The whole seeing other eevelution trainers got boring and they just recycled other character ideas, RIP Yamper, as soon as Chloe caught Eevee and forgot Yamper it was over
I honestly love her design i just wish she had better character writing
not only is she the worst pokegirl she also have a story that builds up to noting take the eevee stuff out and it the same
Wow does anyone in the comments have any media literacy, even just a small small amount? Or nah?
thank you for making this video, you've probably seen my comments before and that I think she's an amazing character just written and handled poorly. She had so much potential for being a great character and they decided to not work with her unless they needed to to basically get a filler episode in. I wish they would have done more with her but I can only wish. At least I can read stories/fanfics of her actually getting good character development.
Great video can't wait to see the next, also I love your art of all the characters on your thumbnails, the Chloe one is so cute
Thank you so much, you can thank my thumbnail artist lufenas for that!
I heavily agree though, she had so much potential
The sad part about Chloe is that I actually found her story to be more interesting than Goh. Because of how much pressure she faced about her peers thinking that she'll be a Pokemon professor like her dad, she becomes repellent of Pokemon and people who are crazy about Pokemon like Goh and especially Ash. Like during their first meeting after Yamper shocked him, she doesn't even bother checking to see if he's ok, just ignores him and moves on. While I'm glad she's become less repellent about Ash and Pokemon and even managed to get her own pokemon, but as time went on and they fail to give her more pokemon and she only is motivated to find more eeveelutions, she feels less like a character and more of a plot device to show off all the eevee evolutions. And even her own focused episodes it feels like the side characters get more focus than her, especially during her climax with her own dad. And the worst part, at the end of it she becomes the new research fellow after Goh and Ash leaves and tries to follow her dad's footsteps. THE VERY THING SHE DIDN'T WANT TO DO!
I hate this character so much because she wastes so much of Journeys that already had too much filler.
She’s so boring too, constantly getting outshined by guest characters in her solo episodes, and her basic “journey” is so bare bones and takes too long.
You can tell they gave her an Eevee cause they needed to do SOMETHING exciting with her.
Chloe should have caught the Galarian ponyta, just saying
i honestly forgot chloe even existed in the pokemon anime
Iris: I'm not the worst anymore?
May: Nahh that goes to me
People hated Iris?
@@Mr.Brothybear UNFORTUNATELY. :(
Never were.
@@incrediblefunk7220 She's One of the Few characters to actually Call Ash out on his BS
In fact, in the episode before the Master 8 finale there is a recap of her storyline and she said she wants to be a professor like her a father, at least that's what I heard in reviews.
Actually give her interaction with ash
Now thinking about it they barley ever talked to each other
@@Pokiiii62 For real bro like Ash and Chloe barely ever talked
Why do you want them to talk
@@Kings0424 which is kind of funny because isn’t ash supposed to be this outgoing kid who easily makes friends…?
@danielawytte3228 Yeah but since Chloe is an introvert and barely ever traveled with Ash and Goh, I mean I'm not sure how they are supposed to be friends
I mean I am not surprised given Journeys maybe the worst series and Goh boils my blood with how easy pokemon is to him
@@Muta123 For real bro like Goh has to be the biggest wannabe in Pokémon history
Goh is so mid bruh
@@Pokiiii62 Like Goh be catching Pokémon left and right without battling it at all like that's not how someone is supposed to catch Pokémon
Goh just annoy me. He is so mid
@@Austruches For real
[Insert the spongebob running around while everything is on fire meme]
I guess that how they felt whilst making her character arc in pokémon journey.
We threw out her name!
2:31
Yeah, honestly, I would've just bitten the bullet and let her join.
Would've helped to get rid of a LOT of unneeded filler.
To give an example on how it could've been avoided: I've made small progress on a document of a Pokemon Journeys rewrite, might take some points from your video to help with that so thanks in advance.
In it, Chloe ends up joining Ash around the time Ash battles with Korrina in Journeys. She doesn't even need to be around all the time, just slightly often!
I also took the liberty in it so far, to put the episode where Chloe catches Eevee, before Ash even catches Dragonite (altering things drastically to fit the story). It her mostly has her join early on to give her more flexibility with screen time, and avoid unnecessary filler, and also change some things to make her unique, like maybe a mental disability!
5:38
I got the lazy answer:
G-Max Eevee :3
If the developers actually created her good development without putting Goh a lot,she would have been a good character for the pokemon series
I feel like the writers kinda dug their own grave when it came to Chloe. Some say she should've been a performer, but I feel like that's too rehashy (is that a word) of May, Dawn, and Serena. I saw someone else point out that she could've had a G-Max Eevee and challenge all of Galar's gyms bc the region got sidelined pretty badly. I would've given Eevee to Ash and let it become an Espeon to match Manga Red. On top of that, her whole thing was that she didn't want to follow in her father's footsteps, but that's what she ended up doing. That's like if Serena became a Rhyhorn racer at the end of XY. I don't like that. Just like her series, Chloe could've been the best Pokegirl ever, but she fell victim to bad writing and became a pile of wasted potential. Sorry abt the long read.
,,That's like if Serena became a Rhyhorn racer at the end of XY.'' She should have been from the beginning of the anime.
what have i done to deserve this slander
OH SH-
@@ItsVirkiri Lol
They had the opportunity to have her and eevee be the female equivalent to ash and pikachu, very upsetting
Honestly. Journeys is basically the BWBA of Pokémon. Both Big World Big Adventures and Journeys tried to have the main character (Thomas the Tank Engine for BWBA, and Ash and Goh for Journeys) traveling the world. And both are underwhelming and pretty bad. Journeys did nothing with the new content and basically clung onto nostalgia, Kanto and Filler for most of its run. BWBA did the opposite, ditching the roots of the show (Edward and Henry being kicked from the main cast, Realism being a mess.) in favor of newer flashier things. Thing is I actually can tolerate BWBA. Journeys on the other hand frustrates me with how it’s the GEN 8 ANIME AND IT DID BASICALLY NOTHING WITH GEN 8. We got the bare minimum for Gen 8 in the Gen 8 anime, with an arc for Sword and Shield, a special for BDSP, and a special for Legends Arceus, as well as the Galar Starters. But most of the Galar stuff was ignored, heck we don’t even have the Galar Starters together at the same time outside of “the world of Pokémon” Segments, something that has never happened before or since in the anime. Journeys just makes me angry.
^ when I say we don’t have the Galar Starters together at the same time, I mean in base form
I know and then all these new episodes try and give Nia and Rebecca as much screentime as possible while Edward and Henry just fade away in the background!
It's very clear some of the episode plots feel very rushed since season 21 only had 18 episodes instead of the usual 26.
It's obvious they wanted to get season 21 out of the way so they could roll BWBA into the market!
V@@IsleofPigsStudios Leon's battle had them all in one place just not out at the same time due to being well a battle.
@@havingfunwithelijah214 In that case it’s the final forms. What I was trying to refer to is the base forms.
@@pikachuthebananasplit9061 Considering AEG, it’s ironic in Rebecca’s case since Rebecca isn’t in AEG at all
Journeys could have introduced Virgil from Unova fans would have got a battle with Ash and also Chloe could have got character development also Journeys should have shown Chloe with GMax Evee as a proper conclusion
Omg that would have been cool.
“They didn’t really didn’t know what to do with Chloe” an allegory of what Journeys is in a nutshell lol
Gigantamax Eevee. That's the solution.
"I'm gonna do something special for 10k"
Bro you missed it by almost 2k already
Dawg, cause I've been lots of time to think about it. Plus It wasn't until a few days ago that I passed 11k, so stop acting like it was a month ago 😭
I don't understand why Pokemon has become so allergic to the idea of letting an Eevee evolve... Like isn't that the whole point
I guess they were trying to pull an Ash on that one. I don't know I'm just saying stuff.
Chole is a average kid that no one understands DAN DAN DAN
Chloes my least favorite pokegirl too. I gave her time when jn came around but i wasnt interested in her. And even i think having that episode during the masters 8 was not a good idea. I love her friendship with dawn and serena but chloe was treated poorly
Like you said I find it really odd that she just met random people’s eeveelutions because all you have to do is just be like “oh btw this water type specialist ash battled and became friends with in the past has a vaporeon.” Like I swear when ash met Wallace in that episode where Chloe had a contest and met Serena she could’ve also chatted to Wallace about Vaporeon
I wouldn't say she's the worst pokegirl in Pokemon history. It's not her fault that her potential was screwed around by the decisions of the writers. Just a very bad missed opportunity.
Wrong
@@natalimoina Screw you. Take your “wrong” and shove it. Got it? Just because my answer doesn’t suit whatever you think is right, doesn’t make it wrong.
@@natalimoina That's your opinion. F*** off.
@@natalimoina Let me make something clear to you, whoever you are: just because I have my own thoughts about what I watch doesn't mean that it's wrong. And especially because of something like you coming up here and spouting off. If you don't like my answer, I couldn't care less. So goodbye and good riddance.
The thing that frustrates me is that Chloe could’ve been soooo good. If she was a more frequent companion to Ash and Goh and more clearly shown to have a fear of change, it could’ve made her story with Eevee not evolving an interesting allegory for not wanting to grow up and being unsure or afraid to commit to a certain path in life. Maybe she’s even hesitant to catch Eevee because she’s so used to being around Yamper. She could’ve paralleled Goh and his drive to go into the world and achieve impossible goals with her almost pessimistic realism, and act as a “straight man” comedically to Ash’s brighter side and Goh’s shenanigans. And that’s not even mentioning how they could’ve rewritten Goh and her dynamic, or given a deeper dynamic to her and Ash, since they barely interact. If it weren’t for her being in the Journeys intro, you’d think she was a side character as important as the rest of her family, not a secondary protagonist! GOH IS MORE OF A POKEGIRL THAN HER (which that’s getting into an opposite problem), and HE’S NOT A GIRL (and also very bland). Cut her out and you don’t miss much in the current iteration of Journeys; but develop her, and she arguably could’ve been one of the best.
The fact the "her eevee is unable to evolve via any of the stone" plot was dropped is absolutly shit
MY EeVeE Is ThE SpeCiAl OnE It Can CopY MoVeS it’s so annoying 😭😭😭😭
Bro, it's incredibly cliche 😭
Someone on Twitter compared JN to Paper Mario Sticker Star. Never has there been such an apt comparison.
Chloe could've had so much more positives than just her design which is the only thing that i really like about her and i feel like it was a missed oppurtunity on pokemons end that they didnt give her more character development, also not evolving her eevee was a bad desision i feel like they could have done so much more with it like they could've introduced a new eeveelution since its been a while since we've had a good eeveelution
Real bruh such wasted potential
Y'all so dumb
Her Eevee is Probably my Least favourite Eevee Partner. What was the Point Of Her Eevee!? It couldn't Evolve which means it Must've been able Gigantamax. Which they didnt Do Anything With!
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Thank you friend!!
Not watching Iris is the worst.
I mean, it makes sense that Eevee couldn’t evolve because the Gen 8 game Let’s Go Eevee.
I was expecting a new Eeveelution at the end of the Eevee arc tbh, big dissapointment
I think a problem with choosing Espeon is if the only reason why you can feel relaxed about not knowing what your future holds is due to your Pokemon being able to know it for you, ultimately that's knowing what your future holds in a sense. You can take comfort in that your future is known to someone or something. That kind of comfort needs to come without having a clear sign that you can know the future or you will always be dependent on that clear sign, it'll be a crutch.
I was hoping her Eevee would have evolved into a new type as it could have parallel her not knowing what to do in her life. The answers aren't always discovered.
Y'know what would've been cool? If we had her Alternative universe version of her instead.
That's so baffling Undertale music is still used
Her character would have been a great way to bring back old characters:
Literally could have just brought back Virgil for every eeveelution at once
Or
Anabel - Espeon
Gladion - Umbreon
Serena - Sylveon
Zoey - Leafeon
I would say May for Glaceon, but her voice actor couldn't return, so I respect the decision to just give her a cameo.
If the original trio maybe the Eevee brothers?
Volkner - Jolteon
Flint - Flareon (he has one in the games, and it would've been cool since he is an elite four)
Alima could have showcased the eevee z move.
I personally think Chloes eevee should have gotten to Gigantimax. That would've made it special.
So many missed opportunities
Maybe you should have written her character.
@@tina_theyt533 Me and the rest of the fan base. Everyone has better ideas for Chloe than what we got
If I had a nickle for when a kids show added a character named Chole that added basically nothing, I'd have 2 nickles.
Which isn't alot, but it's weird that happened twice.
maybe if we saw her eevee gigantamax that would have been better too
Honestly, I would play into the fact that it can't evolve and let it be a representative of the Let's Go Eevee. She could be mentored by an Eevee specialist to use the special moves from those games like Glitzy Glow and Bouncy Bubble. Also, I'd have Chloe find her place in Max Raids, not as an offensive specialist, but support, focusing on helping others calm the Dynamaxed pokemon down. It's weird how this show did Galar's storyline, but I don't remember them doing Max Raids.
She DESERVED better
I HATE that Chole's Eevve never evolved!
REAL, IT SHOULD'VE!!
I know this comment is old but the reason why I'm upset that Chloe's Eevee never evolved is because during the series it was literally implying that it would be. I think it would have been a nice touch if when Chloe finds out her path her Eevee evolves to match that career or something like that. Besides we already had an Eevee that didn't evolve which was Lana's AKA Sandy. I only cared about Chloe because of her Eevee.
Her ponytail looks like a scorpion tail.
That's mostly all I thought.
I do love Cherami Leigh, but Chloe is her weakest role, along with that CGI mini power rangers or bug series. Ironically, we do get a "better" Chloe, and it's in the mirror universe episode.
At this point, I'm convinced Chloe only got an Eevee in order to showcase the species' new gender differences. Because, from what I heard, the Eevee arc was incredibly weak, and, let's face it, we had had 25 years to get to know each Eeveelution and what they could do. We didn't need an unresolved, or at least poorly resolved, arc about an Eevee that can't evolve. Especially when it's nothing more but a heavy-handed metaphor about indecisiveness.
there's no such thing as a worst pokegirl