I found out about gen 2 in 1999, was on vacation with my grand parents and checking out random shops on one of the san juan islands. Ended up finding a promo folder with the Japanese cards for all the new starters plus their evolutions. Along with art for a bunch of other new ones. It was definitely cool showing all the other kids at school haha. Still have it too
@@princesspikachu3915 no it’s the first one they released that has Neo genesis Totodile, Chikorita ,cyndaquil and then all their evolutions. The one your talking about is the “Neo premium file 2”
I had what I assume is the exact same promo folder! Sadly I took them out of their original sleeves which I am disappointed in my little child self for but I still have the cards in my old card binder.
@@breakfastatmilliways at least you still have your card binder though. All mine were destroyed by my cousins kids 😭 the promo folder only survived because I kept it together and separate from my other cards. I’ve been contemplating trying to collect the rest of the Japanese neo genesis set lately though
If this is about Lugia apparently whoever made it was genuinely upset they made it a pokemon cause to him Lugia was something more mystical than a pokemon. I'm just surprised anyone is dumb enough to think the monster they made for a monster collection series isn't gonna become a collectible monster
@Deltabolster close but no. takeshi shudo (the creator of lugia) was so genuinely upset that they made lugia male (or masculine) because to him he saw it as "feminine and motherly." he, unfortunately, struggled with alcoholism and passed away in 2010 because of it.
Except you know fully well beforehand the reptile bird is going to be the mvp in a “little” movie for the biggest grossing IP of all time. “I had no idea”. Yeah The japanese have a tedency to overdramatise.
Yup.... makes me feel like Munna was actually supposed to be a gen 1 Pokemon, but was cut short eventually due to it being Psychic type and the type being OP, but might also have been the argument we already had a lot of Pink/Purple looking Pokemon. That actually makes you look at the other scrapped designs that got potentially re-worked into new existing Pokemon.
They said in an interview Munna was designed specifically to be Musharna's pre-evolution in Gen 5, so that theory falls flat. Musharna itself was designed by a newer (at the time) designer who was asked impromptu to make something on the spot. A lot of Black and White Pokemon where designed that way.
@@Airf0il However, that doesn't mean they couldn't have used that reference point for Munna's design though. Like for example in gen 2, we have the Kotaru line, a 2 stage Electric tiger line. However... if we look at its beta design, its stripes are similair/the same as Torracats and Incineroars stripes on the body, so Kotaru was reworked into/used as a reference, to design the Litten line. Same for the Otter starter in gen 2, in which i can see Samurott, but also Primarina.
A fun fact about Blaziken reveal is that he was a test to see if the audience would like his humanoid design and it turn out to be a very positive reaction becsuse on gen 4 we had Lucario as another humanoid style
Crazy too, cause I think humanoid pokemon are its downfall… as cool as they are, takes the level of fantasy to a near corny level. I don’t think they care about older audiences, but it’s the main issue I currently have.
While this is within the generation, Terapagos' Normal form was revealed first in the 2nd episode of Pokémon Horizons, more than half a year before its game debut in the Indigo Disk DLC. Nothing was known about it except that it looked like the Terapagos that was revealed beforehand, so all we could do was speculate on what it was.
I can see why this is debatable but Terapagos is still Terapagos regardless of what form it is, so it doesn't count for this video since it was already teased in the DLC trailer just before Horizons got its reveal trailer. Even in that trailer, it wasn't shown.
even now, we still don't know, because not one person could bring themself to by the dlc and play more of that godforsaken game... we can only speculate what it is....
I really wish they kept this trend. Like imagine if they did this during journeys by introducing Nemona into the tourney, and having her use an almost entire team of paldean pokemon. That woulda made the ending of Journeys far more interesting, either that or they coulda done it during the 10 ep epilogue....
They could’ve had geeta in the masters eight just to reveal king gambit and geeta should’ve replaced diantha so we only have one kalos rep Alain you can say king gambit can be terrestrialized because anime logic you could do Nemona but she has like two paldea Pokémon orthworm and a starter or do the Harrison way with only a starter nemona probably would have a different team then in game because nemona said she already had some pokemon she was training like a whole team would be way too much that close to scarlet and violet releasing unless an episode aired the same week as SV’s released
I stand by the idea that Tobias would’ve gotten a lot less hate if that darkrai was swapped out for a real strong zoroark under disguise. Would’ve at least grounded his team and setup gen V better since it’s a Pokémon that no one was really prepared for.
@@Kanata_Satouthat would have made him Harrison 2.0 I believe it's better having a unique legendary user rather than a new Gen introducer like the one we already saw
I think the fight itself was perfect as it was because it was totally unexpected and kinda insane. I remember how I lost my shit when after the Darkrai defeat he brings out the Latios. The writers on sinnoh really made some unconventional choices, like how many times Dawn lost in a row, even to be outperformed by Jessie. I just wish the writers would've put some backstory or at least some lead up for Tobias, like introduce him 100 episodes earlier as some kind of mysterious legendary hunter, maybe a former partner of Hunter J or something like that.
@@LucyKosaki I'm with you on that. I personally liked that the fight was so heavily one-sided, as it let Ash get creative with the fight. Like, he literally taught Heracross Sleep Talk to counter Darkrai! When has Ash ever gone out of his way to teach one of his Pokemon an unconventional move to battle someone?
Seeing Donphan in the opening of the first Pokemon movie was so cool as a kid because my main takeaway was "holy shit there's more!" Not even realizing that the Poke rap mentioned that we hadn't seen them all yet. Hey, I was only 7 in 1999 lol. Fun video.
@@SyiepherzeAsh-Greninja is more of a backwards reference. They programmed it into the game to promote the anime, and not the other way around. Considering that form does not even exist anymore.
I remember flicking through my Pokémon Handbook when I was a kid, wondering why I couldn't find Togepi and Marill. When I realised they were from a batch of 100 brand new Pokémon, and both had evolutions, it blew my mind!
Fun speculation: Lugia was meant to appear in "Mystery at the Lighthouse", but as the design wasn't finalized yet, the anime staff used a Dragonite without it being referred to by name. Remember, it was called something to the effect of "beast of the sea". Edit: wrong episode title
@@snookerdooker471 That's the common hypothesis, but aside from the (pink) regional forms, "Mega" Gyrados, and "Tera" Onix in the Orange Islands (plus Ash-Greninja later on), nothing has been implemented in the games because of what the anime writers do. Not to mention that Dynamax was established as exclusive to Galar and even only in certain spots, in both media.
Damn! Does anyone else feel like crying whenever they hear that old Pokemon games music or see bits of the old gen 1 2 or even 3 anime? The nostalgia hit is too hard sometimes not gonna lie.
I thought I was the only person who does that. I cried when I put in a copy of the original 3 Pokémon movies for the first time in years. My 6 year old daughter was looking at me and asked “Why are you crying? You know it has a happy ending!” And I’m at a loss for words because that’s not why I was crying. 😂😂😂😭😭😭 Edit: also I currently have almost all of the movies. Only missing 4 movies: Pokémon Ranger, Diancie and the Cocoon of Destruction, Hoopa and the Clash of Ages, and Volcanion and the Mechanical Marvel. I have the other ones including the awful CGI remake.
back in the 90's/early 2000's there was such an air of mystic around new pokemon and content that was so exciting and nostalgic. It kinda makes me sad that we'll never have that again
I remember that so well!! It's our childhood sense of wonder. Glad we got to experience that. Last Pokemon game I played was pokemon ruby. I remember how AMAZING the graphics were. It felt fresh, exciting and got a true sense of adventure
When you actually consider that the Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh regions are all part of the same mainland (except Hoenn, but it is a close island anyway), it makes sense as to why pokemon could be revealed early. It pretty much stopped after that because regions after Gen 4 were based outside of Japan.
I am 30 years old and Munchlax became my favorite Pokémon after Destiny Deoxys came out when I was 9, and it is STILL my favorite Pokémon. Time feels faster when youre a kid, and it felt like it took forever (it kind of did, 2 or 3 years) for Munchlax to be in a mainline game, but I saw him in XD in 2005, Mystery Dungeon in 2006, and Dash on my birthday in early 2007 before Diamond and Pearl finally released in late 2007. And to this daybhes my favorite Pokémon, and it was all because the Pokémon Company worked so hard to "sneak" munchlax into being the gen 4 Pikachu through all these cameos in pretty much everything.
0:02 When i was a kid i recorded every saturday mirning lineup on KidsWB When the new Advanced Battle intro hit and revealed Lucario like that (at the time, didnt know its name) But i went back after the show to re-watch the recording (also before youtube had every into/outri for any show available) omg i just kept pausing like “WHAT IS THAT?!?!!! ITS SOOOO COOOOOOOOOOLLLLLPL!!!!”
Donphan’s reveal had us all by a chokehold. Paired with that FIRE version of the Pokemon theme song, it was the most hype thing that happened that year.
10:41 For some reason, Here in Mexico, Munchlax appeared in the Gen 3 Tazos, That always confused me because the Tazo didn't list him having an evolution, despite it being obvious it was a baby Snorlax
I like your attitude and your love for the franchise. I like that you´re not rushing to sound hyper excited about stuff, you´re genuine. I like genuine people! Subbed!
I wanted to mention how many of these pokemon also debuted in the TCG a generation early (almost exclusively in Japan and usually as promos or tie-in decks), but in my search for examples I found a particularly interesting one in Kecleon (001/P). It was distributed to people who went to see the Celebi movie in Japanese theaters, and on the surface it seems like just any normal card, but what's actually interesting is that there's 4 different versions of it, each with different e-Reader data featuring not just the green and purple colors, but also a blue and an orange color version that have never been used in any way outside of the data from those e-cards, only referenced by the art of a future Kecleon card (Chilling Reign 122).
It's a common misconception that Lucario replaced Mewtwo in Brawl. The developers intended for Mewtwo to be in the game, but he was cut due to time constraints. The two are also not similar to each other aside from their neutral special moves sharing a texture and having similar mechanics.
A very small and easy to forget example you forgot about: While not in the Anime, within your bedroom in Sun/Moon/Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon, you can see a poster which shows Gigantimax Toxtricity
I'm still think it's a massive missed opportunity that they didn't reveal/tease an early gen 8 pokemon in the Detective Pikachu movie. It was literally the perfect place to do it as it was a movie released globally in actual theaters and all eyes would be on it. I would've loved to see like, a single wooloo getting a little scene to itself like the lickitung on the subway did. Would've been super hype especially considering how pokemon, as you said, hasn't teased stuff like that in a while.
I stopped watching and playing after Gen V and I always wondered if I stopped at a time where Pokemon was starting to get so much better. Now, after watching all of this, I realise that I really had it good enjoying all the top tier Generations and Reveals. Thank you, i feel more at ease
I wouldn't consider that, unless you want to consider forms exclusive to third releases, "pre-generation" reveals... Despite already well inside that generation.
Thats so weird cuz i was literally wondering what polemon were released a generation before their respective game just yesterday, and then i saw your video pop up today and you just uploaded it 2 days ago. Crazy coincidences happen like that sometimes
A little off topic, but Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea was my favorite movie. They did Manaphy justice by giving it great chemistry with May. I just wish the ending had more May and Manaphy instead of Ash going full on Super Saiyan.
This is late, but there is a fanfiction where the characters relive their journeys up through Sinnoh, and a lot changes because they know what will happen... for the most part. One of the most satisfying changes (well two, technically) is what is done for the end of the Jirachi and Manaphy movies. Let's just say, May goes full Mama Ursaring on the pirate Phantom.
There is an other of a Pokemon who could have been one : Meltan. It was revealed in Pokemon Go after USUM, and personnaly I though it was the same type of teasing : a Pokemon from the next generation. And because it wasn't playable in SM or USUM, only Let's Go (but it's a difficult game to classify, and other previous revealed Pokemon could be played in some spin-off games) before being playable in a classical RPG game : Sword and Shield. So I though Meltan (and by extension, Melmetal) was a gen 8 Pokemon But without the National Dex (even in 7th gen we lost the national dex, even if all Pokemon were coded in the games) it's difficult to have a proof to classify, and even in Pokemon Go they're placed in "unknown region". So I feel like every pokedex online just choose to put them by default on the 7th gen, because the 8th gen start with their starter... but that's all
I wish I would have remembered to bring up Meltan in the video but to me it’s more of a generation 7.5 Pokémon. Because although it wasn’t playable in Sun and Moon, it was playable in Lets Go P&E, which is classified as a Gen 7 game. Also Meltan and Melmetal are special cases because they weren’t created to promote Gen 8 at all they were made to promote Pokemon GO, a non main series game which is the first and last time that has happened since.
I remember distinctly that Elekid was introduced in the anime as a cameo in the Orange islands series. Tracy spotted it first and made a sketch of what he saw
I really appreciate your perspective because it was very similar to mine! I’m willing to bet we’re no more than a few years apart from eachother! What a time to be alive!
i’ve only seen Pikachu’s Vacation in the movie theaters in kindergarten when Pokémon The First Movie was out, but i’m 30 now & i still mindlessly sing the “Vacation’s Where I Wanna Be” song at work like at least once a week
To be fair though, Gen 5 did sort of act like a soft reboot to the pokemon games, not to mention it was the first games to not introduce evolutions/pre-evolutions to older pokemon.
@@dse763Not really. I have both movies. They are nothing alike. Lucario and the Mystery of Mew has Jedi-like aura powers and Lucario dies for the sole purpose of milking the tears of children. Zoroark is a “mama” figure to Zorua and the villains motives for using them actually makes sense. While no one dies in it, I would argue it’s darker than the Lucario movie. Also seems to be trying to pander to the moms in the audience like what the 3rd movie did. And also has a complicated environmental plot line involving Celebi and the villain gaining psychic powers of foresight to predict the markets and make money and trying to find the Time Ripples so he can keep his ability. Both movies are solid but not very similar outside of maybe appealing to furries.
@@ankuk099 true. But most of the movies were used to market mythical Pokémon anyway. There’s only a few handful of the over 20 movies that don’t have mythical Pokémon in them. Only 2000, 3, and Heroes comes to mind as not having any mythical event characters.
Could Terapagos technically count because while the gen 9 games were already out, Terapagos did appear in the anime (only in Japan) before it was released in the dlc
i have never been more hyped for anything in my life, we got marril elekid and togepi leaks and i think magby and sentret. new pokemon was like finding the pyramids for me as a kid, ruins of alph , i used to write in unowns lol
I remember seeing gen 2 pokemon in gen 1 media as a kid and reasoned that there would be a gen 2 coming out and it was confirmed for me in a magazine I had to get.
The fact that you’ve got a personal connection to the gen 2 reveals makes this video so much better. Way more Ernst and personal than just sounding like you’re reading off Wikipedia or something
Technically, we could count the Paldea starters with Team Rocket going to Paldea because they first appeared in the anime before the Horizons series and before Scarlet and Violet came out. I know they were revealed in early 2022. In terms of reveals,we can include them.
I like your content. I haven't been into Pokemon for like 10 years and I doubt I'd really like the games as much if I went back and replayed them. It really was just a point and time and idk if I can go back. But damn I'm nostalgic for it. You talking about zoroark getting revealed early just unlocked a memory for me and how utterly mind blown I was at it when I saw the movie on CN back in the day. Gen 5 went on to change my life. I hope you stay consistent with video making. I like your really straightforward delivery. Very chill. It's a great way for me to remember my old fav franchise
I remember we use to expeculate about Ho-Oh at school and we only found out its name when gold release over here. also lets not forget Marril been name Pikablue lol
I grew up during the, "If you have pokemon cards on school property, you will be in big trouble", time. I still remember the elementary school principal making this a big deal on the intercom, lol. Also, Good thing they didn't have Riolu leading into Lucario, in Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness, because that was one of my anticipated pokemon, besides Chimchar, when Gen IV came out.
14:24 Actually, some Pokémon from Kalos was showed early on the Pokémon Black&White anime with Alexa. 2 years early of the release of Pokémon X Y, she appeared with a Gogoat, Helioptile, Noivern and I think that some more Pokémon too.
Togepi may have been in the gen 2 dex, but there are hints and elm himself even confirms that togepi doesnt come from Johto. Togepi more than likely originates from what is now known as sinnoh, as its evolutionary line was very prevalent in hisui and it can even be found naturally in the gen 4 games. I think this is some cool information considering it was originally revealed in the anime so much earlier
I think I learned Donphan’s name from the Pokemon The First Movie novelization. The reveals in the 2nd movie were also show in the Southern Islands card set.
Mew two was revealed very early before the movie. Not in the intro, in the poke rap. I don’t remember which episode, but he did appear before the first movie.
I found out about gen 2 in 1999, was on vacation with my grand parents and checking out random shops on one of the san juan islands. Ended up finding a promo folder with the Japanese cards for all the new starters plus their evolutions. Along with art for a bunch of other new ones. It was definitely cool showing all the other kids at school haha. Still have it too
Is it the one with the promo Pichu?
@@princesspikachu3915 no it’s the first one they released that has Neo genesis Totodile, Chikorita ,cyndaquil and then all their evolutions. The one your talking about is the “Neo premium file 2”
I had what I assume is the exact same promo folder! Sadly I took them out of their original sleeves which I am disappointed in my little child self for but I still have the cards in my old card binder.
@@princesspikachu3915 no it was the promo set before that one
@@breakfastatmilliways at least you still have your card binder though. All mine were destroyed by my cousins kids 😭 the promo folder only survived because I kept it together and separate from my other cards. I’ve been contemplating trying to collect the rest of the Japanese neo genesis set lately though
Imagine drawing a random reptile bird for a little movie and it turns into an actual mascot of the game the movie's based on
If this is about Lugia apparently whoever made it was genuinely upset they made it a pokemon cause to him Lugia was something more mystical than a pokemon. I'm just surprised anyone is dumb enough to think the monster they made for a monster collection series isn't gonna become a collectible monster
@Deltabolster close but no. takeshi shudo (the creator of lugia) was so genuinely upset that they made lugia male (or masculine) because to him he saw it as "feminine and motherly." he, unfortunately, struggled with alcoholism and passed away in 2010 because of it.
I can only imagine how much angry mail they would have gotten if they hadn’t included it.
Except you know fully well beforehand the reptile bird is going to be the mvp in a “little” movie for the biggest grossing IP of all time. “I had no idea”. Yeah The japanese have a tedency to overdramatise.
That wasn't initially the case
“The Pokemon around here are so chunky. I wish there was a pink one with a floral pattern.”
The Lass in Gen 1 after the Rock Tunnel.
@@princesspikachu3915 exactly
Yup.... makes me feel like Munna was actually supposed to be a gen 1 Pokemon, but was cut short eventually due to it being Psychic type and the type being OP, but might also have been the argument we already had a lot of Pink/Purple looking Pokemon.
That actually makes you look at the other scrapped designs that got potentially re-worked into new existing Pokemon.
They said in an interview Munna was designed specifically to be Musharna's pre-evolution in Gen 5, so that theory falls flat.
Musharna itself was designed by a newer (at the time) designer who was asked impromptu to make something on the spot. A lot of Black and White Pokemon where designed that way.
@@Airf0il However, that doesn't mean they couldn't have used that reference point for Munna's design though. Like for example in gen 2, we have the Kotaru line, a 2 stage Electric tiger line. However... if we look at its beta design, its stripes are similair/the same as Torracats and Incineroars stripes on the body, so Kotaru was reworked into/used as a reference, to design the Litten line. Same for the Otter starter in gen 2, in which i can see Samurott, but also Primarina.
Kecleon’s shiny not being the purple version from PMD was heartbreaking when I eventually found out 😭
it's not??
That's the second biggest disappointment we PMD fans felt behind Gates to Infinity
Nope
i like to imagine it’s his Protean ability making him poison type 😭
They ho’d us with that one & crystal onix 😭
A fun fact about Blaziken reveal is that he was a test to see if the audience would like his humanoid design and it turn out to be a very positive reaction becsuse on gen 4 we had Lucario as another humanoid style
seems to be the trend too with the new gen starters
Crazy too, cause I think humanoid pokemon are its downfall… as cool as they are, takes the level of fantasy to a near corny level. I don’t think they care about older audiences, but it’s the main issue I currently have.
are you sure that's true? Machop, machoke, and machamp came way before, and all seem pretty humanoid to me
@@krisloveart "They don't care about older audiences." You've obviously never seen Lopunny and Salazzle.
@@Jaceblue04 what do they look like?
While this is within the generation, Terapagos' Normal form was revealed first in the 2nd episode of Pokémon Horizons, more than half a year before its game debut in the Indigo Disk DLC. Nothing was known about it except that it looked like the Terapagos that was revealed beforehand, so all we could do was speculate on what it was.
Yeah, and a lot of people decided to nickname Terapagos the Ho-Oh of Pokémon Horizons due to this fact!😄😏😎
I can see why this is debatable but Terapagos is still Terapagos regardless of what form it is, so it doesn't count for this video since it was already teased in the DLC trailer just before Horizons got its reveal trailer. Even in that trailer, it wasn't shown.
even now, we still don't know, because not one person could bring themself to by the dlc and play more of that godforsaken game... we can only speculate what it is....
And the Americans saw it in the anime long after the dlc came out
Funny how Terapagos did appear during the opening paralogue for the video, but the video stops right at Magearna
I really wish they kept this trend. Like imagine if they did this during journeys by introducing Nemona into the tourney, and having her use an almost entire team of paldean pokemon. That woulda made the ending of Journeys far more interesting, either that or they coulda done it during the 10 ep epilogue....
And she could have terrastalized too. Her Tera Orb still would have had one charge.
To me, this implies that they are indeed rushing generations. So they don't have enough time ahead to plan early reveals.
@@Bombasaur101Exctly
They could’ve had geeta in the masters eight just to reveal king gambit and geeta should’ve replaced diantha so we only have one kalos rep Alain you can say king gambit can be terrestrialized because anime logic you could do Nemona but she has like two paldea Pokémon orthworm and a starter or do the Harrison way with only a starter nemona probably would have a different team then in game because nemona said she already had some pokemon she was training like a whole team would be way too much that close to scarlet and violet releasing unless an episode aired the same week as SV’s released
@@snookerdooker471 Why would Geeta replace the actual Kalos champion and not Alain then. Makes no sense.
I stand by the idea that Tobias would’ve gotten a lot less hate if that darkrai was swapped out for a real strong zoroark under disguise. Would’ve at least grounded his team and setup gen V better since it’s a Pokémon that no one was really prepared for.
Tobias should’ve been a Unova trainer instead of an Action Replay user tbh
@@Kanata_Satouthat would have made him Harrison 2.0
I believe it's better having a unique legendary user rather than a new Gen introducer like the one we already saw
I think the fight itself was perfect as it was because it was totally unexpected and kinda insane. I remember how I lost my shit when after the Darkrai defeat he brings out the Latios. The writers on sinnoh really made some unconventional choices, like how many times Dawn lost in a row, even to be outperformed by Jessie. I just wish the writers would've put some backstory or at least some lead up for Tobias, like introduce him 100 episodes earlier as some kind of mysterious legendary hunter, maybe a former partner of Hunter J or something like that.
It'd also mirror how completely game-breaking Zoroark would've been if it were introduced in DPP.
@@LucyKosaki I'm with you on that. I personally liked that the fight was so heavily one-sided, as it let Ash get creative with the fight. Like, he literally taught Heracross Sleep Talk to counter Darkrai! When has Ash ever gone out of his way to teach one of his Pokemon an unconventional move to battle someone?
Seeing Donphan in the opening of the first Pokemon movie was so cool as a kid because my main takeaway was "holy shit there's more!" Not even realizing that the Poke rap mentioned that we hadn't seen them all yet. Hey, I was only 7 in 1999 lol. Fun video.
@@Blaherhagen If Warner Bros. had rights with Mewtwo?
does mega mewtwo y technically count from the genesect movie, since it did tease the next generation for pokemon?
Yeah I guess and it did tease Mega Evolution
If we're counting new forms, the alternate forms of Zygarde also first appeared in the anime.
Oh yeah,back when everyone thought that was Mewthree lol
@@wikiuser92 Ash-Greninja too
@@SyiepherzeAsh-Greninja is more of a backwards reference. They programmed it into the game to promote the anime, and not the other way around.
Considering that form does not even exist anymore.
hoothoot and ledyba were actually revealed before the 2000 movie via the pokemon cereal
I had the Hoothoot top as a kid.
The day I found out Marill was gen 2 it changed my life.
I was shocked when I learn azumarill was gen 2. I always thought it was added in gen 3 with the baby form.
@@LimeLoafRoselia got its baby and evolved forms in Gen 4 when Budew and Roserade were introduced.
@@princesspikachu3915 That also always confused me, I wonder why they weren't added in gen 3? They obviously knew roselia was weak on its own.
I remember flicking through my Pokémon Handbook when I was a kid, wondering why I couldn't find Togepi and Marill. When I realised they were from a batch of 100 brand new Pokémon, and both had evolutions, it blew my mind!
@@LimeLoafalotta people believe this cause egg pokemon were something most people didn’t really try and get 😂
Fun speculation: Lugia was meant to appear in "Mystery at the Lighthouse", but as the design wasn't finalized yet, the anime staff used a Dragonite without it being referred to by name. Remember, it was called something to the effect of "beast of the sea".
Edit: wrong episode title
This make sense to as why there’s a big azz dragonite.
It can Dymanax at will😆@@YhwachTheAlmighty.
It’s more like a dynamax dragonite.
@@snookerdooker471 That's the common hypothesis, but aside from the (pink) regional forms, "Mega" Gyrados, and "Tera" Onix in the Orange Islands (plus Ash-Greninja later on), nothing has been implemented in the games because of what the anime writers do. Not to mention that Dynamax was established as exclusive to Galar and even only in certain spots, in both media.
Was that a Dr. Lava reveal? I don't remember that one.
I miss those days where the anime showed new gen Pokemon early, it was very effective in hyping up next generation games.
Don’t you mean “Super Effective”? Jokes aside, I remember seeing the Genesect movie and after a while I started to play Pokemon X.
Damn! Does anyone else feel like crying whenever they hear that old Pokemon games music or see bits of the old gen 1 2 or even 3 anime? The nostalgia hit is too hard sometimes not gonna lie.
I thought I was the only person who does that. I cried when I put in a copy of the original 3 Pokémon movies for the first time in years. My 6 year old daughter was looking at me and asked “Why are you crying? You know it has a happy ending!” And I’m at a loss for words because that’s not why I was crying. 😂😂😂😭😭😭
Edit: also I currently have almost all of the movies. Only missing 4 movies: Pokémon Ranger, Diancie and the Cocoon of Destruction, Hoopa and the Clash of Ages, and Volcanion and the Mechanical Marvel. I have the other ones including the awful CGI remake.
No. Not at all
back in the 90's/early 2000's there was such an air of mystic around new pokemon and content that was so exciting and nostalgic.
It kinda makes me sad that we'll never have that again
I remember that so well!! It's our childhood sense of wonder. Glad we got to experience that. Last Pokemon game I played was pokemon ruby. I remember how AMAZING the graphics were. It felt fresh, exciting and got a true sense of adventure
in the lati movie there was another wailmer in it as well, owned by a trainer during the race.
When you actually consider that the Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh regions are all part of the same mainland (except Hoenn, but it is a close island anyway), it makes sense as to why pokemon could be revealed early. It pretty much stopped after that because regions after Gen 4 were based outside of Japan.
kalos was based on France and it had pokemons from all regions introduced before in a large number
pokemon stopped being reavealed early because they dont care anymore, we dont even get pokemon movies to focus on new mons
Elekid did appear in the anime first, although it was on a drawing Tracey did and only part of it was shown
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I always felt it was implied to be the same one from the short as well.
Literally plugging the new games!
getting statues of not yet released gen 4 pokemon in gen 3 pmd rescue team was awesome
I am 30 years old and Munchlax became my favorite Pokémon after Destiny Deoxys came out when I was 9, and it is STILL my favorite Pokémon. Time feels faster when youre a kid, and it felt like it took forever (it kind of did, 2 or 3 years) for Munchlax to be in a mainline game, but I saw him in XD in 2005, Mystery Dungeon in 2006, and Dash on my birthday in early 2007 before Diamond and Pearl finally released in late 2007. And to this daybhes my favorite Pokémon, and it was all because the Pokémon Company worked so hard to "sneak" munchlax into being the gen 4 Pikachu through all these cameos in pretty much everything.
0:02
When i was a kid i recorded every saturday mirning lineup on KidsWB
When the new Advanced Battle intro hit and revealed Lucario like that (at the time, didnt know its name)
But i went back after the show to re-watch the recording (also before youtube had every into/outri for any show available) omg i just kept pausing like “WHAT IS THAT?!?!!! ITS SOOOO COOOOOOOOOOLLLLLPL!!!!”
Watching the first Pokémon movie as a kid felt like a masterpiece
Definitely! All of those first 3 Pokémon movies felt like that, they were so epic!
then you watch it again as an adult and realize how bad they are
@@caderaid441yeah lol
@@MerkhVision Kids' WB?
Donphan’s reveal had us all by a chokehold. Paired with that FIRE version of the Pokemon theme song, it was the most hype thing that happened that year.
10:41 For some reason, Here in Mexico, Munchlax appeared in the Gen 3 Tazos, That always confused me because the Tazo didn't list him having an evolution, despite it being obvious it was a baby Snorlax
16:23 any reason for the Cheetos background? Lol 😂
Elekid was kind of revealed in an Orange Island episode. Tracey sketched the top of it's head. But it wasn't a full reveal. Misty Meets Her Match.
Seeing Gen 3 Pokemon animated pre-digital era is kinda surreal.
If May appeared?
I remember everyone thinking Marill name was going to be Pikablu.
Likable is Mariela nickname. Just you brudda
I like your attitude and your love for the franchise. I like that you´re not rushing to sound hyper excited about stuff, you´re genuine. I like genuine people! Subbed!
I wanted to mention how many of these pokemon also debuted in the TCG a generation early (almost exclusively in Japan and usually as promos or tie-in decks), but in my search for examples I found a particularly interesting one in Kecleon (001/P). It was distributed to people who went to see the Celebi movie in Japanese theaters, and on the surface it seems like just any normal card, but what's actually interesting is that there's 4 different versions of it, each with different e-Reader data featuring not just the green and purple colors, but also a blue and an orange color version that have never been used in any way outside of the data from those e-cards, only referenced by the art of a future Kecleon card (Chilling Reign 122).
I've never commented liked and subbed to a video in my life but that sponsor clip was awesome haha. Great video buddy.
I remember seeing Blaziken for the first time that was so hype. Great video!
The "sponsor" read in the grocery store 😂
Genuinely laughed at 9:40 nice video man keep up the great work
It's a common misconception that Lucario replaced Mewtwo in Brawl. The developers intended for Mewtwo to be in the game, but he was cut due to time constraints. The two are also not similar to each other aside from their neutral special moves sharing a texture and having similar mechanics.
A very small and easy to forget example you forgot about:
While not in the Anime, within your bedroom in Sun/Moon/Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon, you can see a poster which shows Gigantimax Toxtricity
I'm still think it's a massive missed opportunity that they didn't reveal/tease an early gen 8 pokemon in the Detective Pikachu movie. It was literally the perfect place to do it as it was a movie released globally in actual theaters and all eyes would be on it. I would've loved to see like, a single wooloo getting a little scene to itself like the lickitung on the subway did. Would've been super hype especially considering how pokemon, as you said, hasn't teased stuff like that in a while.
I stopped watching and playing after Gen V and I always wondered if I stopped at a time where Pokemon was starting to get so much better. Now, after watching all of this, I realise that I really had it good enjoying all the top tier Generations and Reveals. Thank you, i feel more at ease
You forgot about dusk form lycanroc, tho forms are sometimes still revealed early in the anime.
I wouldn't consider that, unless you want to consider forms exclusive to third releases, "pre-generation" reveals... Despite already well inside that generation.
As a kid I had a VCR copy of the first movie and it had Pikablu on the back. Wish I knew where it was
mine's probably lost in the storage shed
Very interesting video, thank you for compiling all this and looking at the different medias!
The pre movie shorts were and still are the best! More, please!
Thats so weird cuz i was literally wondering what polemon were released a generation before their respective game just yesterday, and then i saw your video pop up today and you just uploaded it 2 days ago. Crazy coincidences happen like that sometimes
serendipitous
I'm just gonna say that the sound choice for this video truly snapped be back to childhood IMMEDIARELY
Donphan is still to this day my favorite pokemon because of that reveal.
Blaziken’s introduction was so friggin’ ICONIC!! I remember being a kid jaw dropped to the ground! Good times.
A little off topic, but Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea was my favorite movie. They did Manaphy justice by giving it great chemistry with May. I just wish the ending had more May and Manaphy instead of Ash going full on Super Saiyan.
Manaphy loves you.
-May and Manphy
This is late, but there is a fanfiction where the characters relive their journeys up through Sinnoh, and a lot changes because they know what will happen... for the most part. One of the most satisfying changes (well two, technically) is what is done for the end of the Jirachi and Manaphy movies. Let's just say, May goes full Mama Ursaring on the pirate Phantom.
7:25 Wynaut also appeared in Camp Pikachu, even interacting with Wobbuffet in the short
Pokemon making appearances before their generation is the ultimate form of world building up there with yet to be shown region mentions.
This is a Great video! It felt really nostalgic 😊 brought back the good old days 😊 keep up the great work
There is an other of a Pokemon who could have been one : Meltan. It was revealed in Pokemon Go after USUM, and personnaly I though it was the same type of teasing : a Pokemon from the next generation. And because it wasn't playable in SM or USUM, only Let's Go (but it's a difficult game to classify, and other previous revealed Pokemon could be played in some spin-off games) before being playable in a classical RPG game : Sword and Shield.
So I though Meltan (and by extension, Melmetal) was a gen 8 Pokemon
But without the National Dex (even in 7th gen we lost the national dex, even if all Pokemon were coded in the games) it's difficult to have a proof to classify, and even in Pokemon Go they're placed in "unknown region".
So I feel like every pokedex online just choose to put them by default on the 7th gen, because the 8th gen start with their starter... but that's all
I wish I would have remembered to bring up Meltan in the video but to me it’s more of a generation 7.5 Pokémon. Because although it wasn’t playable in Sun and Moon, it was playable in Lets Go P&E, which is classified as a Gen 7 game. Also Meltan and Melmetal are special cases because they weren’t created to promote Gen 8 at all they were made to promote Pokemon GO, a non main series game which is the first and last time that has happened since.
I remember distinctly that Elekid was introduced in the anime as a cameo in the Orange islands series. Tracy spotted it first and made a sketch of what he saw
I really appreciate your perspective because it was very similar to mine! I’m willing to bet we’re no more than a few years apart from eachother! What a time to be alive!
love your videos man! Calming way to spend some time.
5:31 he was probably high when he said that. He did so many drugs.
Dude congrats. This was a big video for you. Hope you keep finding inspiration
WHY ARE THE COMMENTS UNRELATED TO THE VIDEO 😭😭
Dude chill
Why are you typing in all caps?
i’ve only seen Pikachu’s Vacation in the movie theaters in kindergarten when Pokémon The First Movie was out, but i’m 30 now & i still mindlessly sing the “Vacation’s Where I Wanna Be” song at work like at least once a week
I wish that more gen 5 Pokemon were shown in gen 4, aside from just Zorua and Zoroark.
To be fair though, Gen 5 did sort of act like a soft reboot to the pokemon games, not to mention it was the first games to not introduce evolutions/pre-evolutions to older pokemon.
Zoroark Master of Illusion was literally Lucario and the Mystery of Mew for gen 5.
@@dse763Not really. I have both movies. They are nothing alike.
Lucario and the Mystery of Mew has Jedi-like aura powers and Lucario dies for the sole purpose of milking the tears of children.
Zoroark is a “mama” figure to Zorua and the villains motives for using them actually makes sense. While no one dies in it, I would argue it’s darker than the Lucario movie. Also seems to be trying to pander to the moms in the audience like what the 3rd movie did. And also has a complicated environmental plot line involving Celebi and the villain gaining psychic powers of foresight to predict the markets and make money and trying to find the Time Ripples so he can keep his ability.
Both movies are solid but not very similar outside of maybe appealing to furries.
@@princesspikachu3915but both movies had the two first mythical pokemon starred in though
@@ankuk099 true. But most of the movies were used to market mythical Pokémon anyway. There’s only a few handful of the over 20 movies that don’t have mythical Pokémon in them. Only 2000, 3, and Heroes comes to mind as not having any mythical event characters.
Man I loved Misty’s Togepi, I remember that one scene where meowth makes Togepi eggs. Still funny to think of lol
Could Terapagos technically count because while the gen 9 games were already out, Terapagos did appear in the anime (only in Japan) before it was released in the dlc
Not a gen early technically but it that could count
It's still Gen 9 though, this is only for Pokes released a generation early
i have never been more hyped for anything in my life, we got marril elekid and togepi leaks and i think magby and sentret. new pokemon was like finding the pyramids for me as a kid, ruins of alph , i used to write in unowns lol
These movies are peak childhood
This video is an absolute banger keep up the amazing work
Glad I'm not the only one who thought Lucario was a legendary Pokémon after watching the movie😅
4Kids have rights with eight seasons.
@brianodonnell4496 yup
@@e2k102 Especially, all eight movies.
@@brianodonnell4496until like the first few episodes with battle frontier
hey that was a good video. love how genuinely nostalgic it is without being sappy or mean. 10/10
generation 5 also revealed noivern by Alexa in the end of the BW anime
He covered it in the video
Did you... watch the video?
I appreciate the Puzzle League music during Togepi section
why did you film yourself at the grocery store lmao
It's a reveal for a new game
@@michaeltan7257pokemon grocery it has 2 versions
This was a fun & fascinating watch. Thank you!
10:05 Treeco fell down sac first! It's no wonder why he got hurt!
Dawg...
Damn your mind's in the gutter bro 😂
Victini was also revealed in a teaser that was shown in Japanese theaters alongside the Zoroark movie
your voice is so relaxing it makes me feel so safe😭
I remember seeing gen 2 pokemon in gen 1 media as a kid and reasoned that there would be a gen 2 coming out and it was confirmed for me in a magazine I had to get.
Listening to him talk about Pokemon surprises me. Was Pokemon really that popular back then?
Oh yeah
For sure it was. ❤
It was magical to find new Pokémon yourself as a kid without the internet spoiling you, specially the first movie
i mean it makes sense, just because we dont know a pokemon exists yet in the anime doesnt mean it doesnt exist in the verse.
growing up with pokemon, it was always fun to see the silhouettes of all these pokemon
Fun fact: Takeshi Shudo intended Lugia to be a more maternal Pokemon and was extremely disappointed when they gave it a masculine voice.
I remember how people were loving how munchlax was revealed in the Deoxys movie!
Miramax did rights for Hoenn.
12:54 RIGHT?! the only options are fire horse (ponyta) or fire monkey (chimchar)! Thats it! the starter, or one pure type! sighhhh
I chose Torchic as my starter when I got Sapphire as a kid because I loved the battle between Charizard and Blaziken
What about Blaziken's first appearance when it battled sneasle
YES
@Supermateo97 when I first saw its appearance, I was like holy crap, it looks badass ! We are about to get a new region !
Damn, that sponsor video was so good! Made me subscribe. Could not have found or gotten a better sponsor. Cheers!
The fact that you’ve got a personal connection to the gen 2 reveals makes this video so much better. Way more Ernst and personal than just sounding like you’re reading off Wikipedia or something
Mega gyarados and Dynamax Dragonite were shown in Kanto .
I posted a comment with an alternate hypothesis for the Dragonite, but it feels rude to repost it in a reply.
@@Evdafawthit's cool man I'll try to look for it
Technically, we could count the Paldea starters with Team Rocket going to Paldea because they first appeared in the anime before the Horizons series and before Scarlet and Violet came out. I know they were revealed in early 2022. In terms of reveals,we can include them.
I like your content. I haven't been into Pokemon for like 10 years and I doubt I'd really like the games as much if I went back and replayed them. It really was just a point and time and idk if I can go back. But damn I'm nostalgic for it. You talking about zoroark getting revealed early just unlocked a memory for me and how utterly mind blown I was at it when I saw the movie on CN back in the day. Gen 5 went on to change my life. I hope you stay consistent with video making. I like your really straightforward delivery. Very chill. It's a great way for me to remember my old fav franchise
I remember we use to expeculate about Ho-Oh at school and we only found out its name when gold release over here. also lets not forget Marril been name Pikablue lol
I grew up during the, "If you have pokemon cards on school property, you will be in big trouble", time. I still remember the elementary school principal making this a big deal on the intercom, lol.
Also, Good thing they didn't have Riolu leading into Lucario, in Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness, because that was one of my anticipated pokemon, besides Chimchar, when Gen IV came out.
14:24 Actually, some Pokémon from Kalos was showed early on the Pokémon Black&White anime with Alexa. 2 years early of the release of Pokémon X Y, she appeared with a Gogoat, Helioptile, Noivern and I think that some more Pokémon too.
Togepi may have been in the gen 2 dex, but there are hints and elm himself even confirms that togepi doesnt come from Johto. Togepi more than likely originates from what is now known as sinnoh, as its evolutionary line was very prevalent in hisui and it can even be found naturally in the gen 4 games. I think this is some cool information considering it was originally revealed in the anime so much earlier
Gen three was the golden age of pokemon we lived through such an amazing time I was lucky enough to be a kid during that time and enjoy to the fullest
I think I learned Donphan’s name from the Pokemon The First Movie novelization. The reveals in the 2nd movie were also show in the Southern Islands card set.
No reveal was more epic than Blaziken beating Charizard to show Hoenn was on the way that moment lives with me forever😢
I think ho-oh reveal from episode 1 was the best
I remember the opening of the first film with the Donphan in the theatre. Theatre blew up
Feels like I'm back in 2012 watching these fact videos. Keep it up.
Amazing video! I did not expect that there was this much foreshadowing involved in the pokemon anime haha.
Mew two was revealed very early before the movie. Not in the intro, in the poke rap.
I don’t remember which episode, but he did appear before the first movie.
Warner Bros. did rights?
@@brianodonnell4496 what?
@@Ender-Eye2000 Just in 1999 to 2001.
MEWTWO IS ONE WORD, NOT 2 WORDS!
@Amelia4111 Was he, appeared in the first movie?