I have been driving my Outlander PHEV for 4 months now and agree with your assessment. The Outlander size works for me as it usually just me and my wife and two dogs. The car is used for commuting and weekend outings. I actually considered CX-90, but ultimately the car would be too big for 95% of the time, and the most concerning issue is that this is Mazda’s first ever PHEV so there will be problems. On the other hand, Mitsubishi has been in the PHEV business for over 10 years that is proven to be reliable.
It's been two months since I've been driving my Outlander and I literally like it. As you mentioned, the range and fuel economy have been much better for me than the rating.
Just took delivery of CX-90 GT today, it's very smooth. When I tested both PHEV and MHEV, they were both very smooth too. I think it has to do with driving habit.
Ever notice how you don't see a lot of *old* Mazdas around? There's a reason for that..... The Mitsubishi is cheaper, better equipped, with a longer warranty, and is nicer to live with day to day. If you're going to keep it then it is the only rational choice. If you're going to sell it within 3 years or lease either, then the Mazda is the better choice financially, but it's still worse in all the other ways mentioned.
I was gonna buy the outlander but the dealbreaker for me is the 3rd row space and the cargo room behind the 3rd row. I wish they made it bigger like a pathfinder
Personally, I'm happy it's the size it is. Sorrento (the only other 3 row PHEV at the time I bought ) and Pathfinder are both too big for my parking situation. Outlander juuuuust fits.
Thanks for the comparison video. Just wanted to add that your microphone levels are hot meaning the levels are too high. You can fix it in post by normalizing all audio or when you record with your mic try to lower the sensitivity. good work though. Keep it up.
Living in South Africa we have planned blackouts for 6-10 hours per day. Mitsubishi makes sense to me in that I can run my home and shop when we have planned blackouts. Turning phev into a generator just makes sense to me for emergencies .. cmon.. one last thing fly useless kiddie seats and give me a spare tyre rather.. dont want to be stuck on the side of the road in SA. That could mean someone's demise
I guess this is the perfect review who picked the right vehicles to show what is it upto... Thanks for the compassion and through review ! I own Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV 2023 GTP White Diamond with Black Roof, I do able to pull lots of mileage on EV despite not having charging facility for now.. Level 3 is super hit for me at $3.5 for 30 mins 60~66KM range works :) & a free Level 2 when I drop my kids for recreation programs. Loved it by all means the way transmission does switching is amazing infact on the other day my friends who own Rav4 Hybrid asking me is there any sound damps installed in my car LoL. Quite, smooth and love the mileage... 100% it was downplayed by many reviewers by just talking about official figures of mileage but fact is in real world I see much better mileage as mentioned in the review. Only thing puzzled me about Mitsubishi is why they went with 3.3KW onboard charger but not with 6.6KW for J1772 port not sure if it is cost cutting or no R&D or limitation created because of Level 3 on board otherwise absolutely works with overnight charge of 12hrs to full from zero to 100% in level1. last but not least, on the other hand almost all reviewers were hyping Mazda CX90 without speaking about low speed transmission jerks which is evident in all trim levels - Hope people does test drive and buy ! Agreed Mazda too is good looking inside interiors though I didnt like the back exterior part.
I read somewhere they went with a 3.8? kw charger I make it go easier on the batteries. I don't know if I believe that or not. But after three weeks of level 1 I couldn't take it anymore so I bought a level 2 charger and it is like a new vehicle to me. I agree I wish it was 6 kw but still being able to charge it two to three times faster than level one is awesome. Full in 6 hours is transformative.
@@mikeintampa250 Our outy got level 2 onboard 240V / 15A EVSE limitation means it can max out at 3600watts i.e. 3.6KW in an ideal scenario it may go upto 3.3kw, might be 3.8kw could be a measurement range approximate values. having said wish Outlander comes up with upgrade package onboard charging system :D
I may be in the minority, but I love the dial. My previous vehicles had the touchscreen and keeping the screen free from fingerprints was a losing battle. Once you get the hang of using the dial, you'll find it super convenient.
My '23 LE PHEV avg is 4.8 liters/100 km after 8200 km. That include 2000 km of winter driving. It's doing exactly what I was expecting. Be reliable, confortable and has good enough dynamic for an suv on 18 inches wheel. But... I've replace the stock falken right before I took delivery.
Other CX90 reviewers have also mentioned its jerky/clunky transmission activity, at lower RPM, when trying to drive gently in neighborhoods or in stop & go traffic. Apparently it affects more than just the PHEV version. This is a glitch that might be overlooked on a typical rushed/enthusiastic/aggressive test drive. Thanks for catching it.
The PHEV has less of what you describe than the Inline-6 model. I'm a CX-90 PHEV owner, and had nothing to complain about the transmission, also enjoy higher MPG than conventional torque-converted automatics would provide.
The Outlander PHEV is the better car of this group. The CX-90 is better with the 3.3L inline 6 turbo, but the PHEV version was meant for Europe where I6 engines are taxed heavily & EVs are more common. The Mazda PHEV isn't as refined as the Mitsubishi which is almost EV like in its operation.
I don't see any mention about the cold weather issues they both have, I tried to test drive the Outlander and due to the cold they could not get it to run in EV mode, "Too cold for the battery" And I have read many cases where the Mazda actually could not even start (not even start the engine) due to cold. Also I have seen many cases where the EV range was more than cut in half due to the cold.
The throttle management on CX-90 PHEV got way better after 1-2 weeks of driving after delivery. I bet the car's module learned my driving style and adjusted shifts based on that. Shifting out of Sport to Normal mode will also result in smoother acceleration.
Great video / comparison. It would be great if you can do a comparison on the 2023 Outlander PHEV and the 2023 Toyota RAV4 Prime PHEV to see if the RAV4 Prime to see which is the better PHEV!! Another question is do you see a mid-cycle refresh from Mitsubishi providing the option to have or remove the 3rd row for better cargo space as well as improve the hybrid efficiency to better match the Toyota RAV4 Prime 6.2L/100km?? Thanks!!
That would be a natural comparison for sure except it’s almost impossible to get a RAV4 Prime. They’re so rare so it almost doesn’t matter how efficient it is. I actually liked the Prone so much I was ready to buy one but couldn’t handle the super long wait. My friend has had one on order for over 2 years.
@russeldobie2489 in other markets you can get the Outlander PHEV without the 3rd row. Removing the 3rd seems very easy, there is a lot of documentation on Facebook on how to do it, and it removes a noticable amount of weight. What I don't like about removing it is that it gives you an uneven cargo floor. But I guess it would not be very hard to homemade a floor cover for when you really need a flat floor.
@@EverydayReviews2022. The Prime is truly an outstanding vehicle, but yes I see your point in what is the point if you’re waiting an eternity. It’s quite funny as I believe in Australia they’re already taking orders for the 6th generation RAV4 which is a year or 2 away. Cheers NZ.
Good day from Georgia my brother. I am a the begging stage of leasing a PHEV and my gosh your right about the transmission. It bucks and stutters in 1st and 2nd gear. I had the dealership look at it, and though they are aware of the issue there is no fix. The CX 90 is a tail of 3 personalities. On the highway its smooth the transition from battery to engine is simple sad. I mostly regret the purchase. I will be getting out of as soon as I can.
Great review and comparison. I am actually literally deciding between these two and your video was super helpful. I am leaning towards the Outlander, as I like the look more, but that 3rd row is a joke! Luckily I won't need it often (just for occasional emergency use). And I am getting out of a Volvo XC90 phev lease now: I definitely do NOT recommend that car.
It takes 5 minutes to inflate a tire with fix a flat sealent, but at least 30 minutes to replace a tire. The probability of being run over on a highway or rural road by a reckless or drunk driver is more likely to happen changing a tire than using sealant. Changing tires on the road not safe...IMHO
@@allmtbnzscottbrownhill2896 Totally agree with you, I had a car with no spare and only a emergency sealing can thing you use with an included pump, bug the damage was too bad all that just leaks out and not being able to form a seal, I had run over a big pot hole causing a big hole in the side wall, I ended up paying 800 for towing as I was in a small reserve town on a road trip on a Sunday night, options were very limited. So I would consider that spare as big plus.
I’m not believe you , there is no way to get 3 rd how first , and no room for foot or head space . It’s a garbage I’m 5.8 with 220 lb that’s my experience
I leased a 2023 Outlander SE PHEV last month. I got $7200 (USD) in EV credits, and I put some money down ($5000 USD out the door including all fees and first month's payment) and I'm paying $317/month. I think the MSRP was around $45000. It's a 2 year lease. I really wanted to buy a Kia Carnival but hard to find the LX (lowest trim) which has the captains chairs in the 2nd row and can tow 3500 lbs. Interest rates are ridiculous. We could buy one cash but we need our savings for our home. I saw the Outlander as a decent "stop gap" car for the meantime while the car market and bond market figures out what it wants to do, do rates go up, stay the same, or go down. I think interest rates in general will indeed be higher for longer as they say but how long?? That's why I leased it. On an overall scale of 1-10, I have to give it a 6. I'm an internal combustion engine kind of guy. I don't appreciate the level of complexity in this vehicle even though I see areas where they tried to make things simple. Took me a week of driving it to figure out how to get into Reverse without trouble. I like normal mechanical levers to shift. This isn't my first Mitsubishi product however. There's no way I was going to get a Kia Carnival (MSRP $36000 + $4000 market adjustment) for $317/month for 2 years. That market adjustment also bothers me. Now the used ones are finally coming down in price. I'm having a hard time getting a tow hitch from Mitsubishi for that "amazing" 1500 lbs. towing capacity they advertise. Looks like it was a bait and switch. I called my sales dealer and another Mitsubishi dealer and both service departments tell me that Mitsubishi is not releasing a tow hitch for the Outlander PHEV after all. Luckily Curt makes one along with the wiring kit and my dealer service manager was able to order it from etrailer and they're going to install it for $640, on Mitsubishi's website on the car builder tool says you can add the tow hitch packs for $765 but that's probably a factory installed or port installed price. The sales manager gave me a discount on the $765 to make the sale probably not knowing that dealer installed should be a lot more than ,$765, I didn't know either. So we're just waiting on the parts now. I would install it myself but being it's a lease vehicle that I'm not going to purchase and the amount of electronics in this thing, I'd rather just pay them to put it in. My next vehicle will already have a tow hitch installed from the factory or port, whatever vehicle it ends up being.
I just got the sel premium black with grey hood! It was 54k but I was able to get a bunch of discount with my military/ owning a 2015 outlander sports ( my sister uses it) n got the car for 47k! With my good credit score I only put down 4k n monthly is 430$ a month for 36months. I really just use it to drive to school and back 😂 I love it tho! I use to daily my 2018 sti and cali gas was getting expensive
Considered and test drive the outlander. Wanted to buy onee but extra dealer adjustment fee over national msrp turned us off. Cash grab by local dealers who added no value made us stop the purchase. We got a tesla and the user interface and infomat system od tesla is at least a generation ahead of Mitsubishi... and most other car manufacturers
6 critical recalls on the cx90 and forums full of horror stories of catastrophic failure. Combined with almost half the range (my best was 43 miles so far not even tryin, I know I can hit 50) of the Outlander, the Outlander PHEV was a nobrainer for me.
The Mazda level 1 charge spec is a little bit of a fudge. They are measuring the time to charge from 20% to 80% full. Using a standard 120volt 15amp circuit, you can only charge at a maximum rate of 1.4kw per hour. The Outlander charges from a 120 v circuit at the same rate. Their 16 hour figure comes from the fact that it is speced at charging a 20kwh battery to 100%. If they speced it to charge from 20 to 80% it wouldn't be too much more. What really counts is how many Kms you can drive on 1 hour of charging. As for their Level 2 charging spec that probably is better because Mitsubishi only has a 3.5kw on board charger. It can only charge at 16 at 240 volts. The cx90 charges are 30 amps at 240volts.
And it's generally silly to say "The Mazda charges faster" when it's only adding 26.1 miles of range versus the Outlander's 38 miles of range. If your commute is over 26 miles, then your only choice is to use gas beyond that 26 mile mark.
I like the outlander. Not only cheaper but I like the look of it better. Only concern is all that tech. Although nice, might be a pain when things start breaking. One feature I love is the back armrest pass thru. I can have my dog in the back and have the armrest down and he can stick his head thru. Brilliant.
Great review, thank you. I am also getting 84 to 95 kms on EV Mode on my 2024 PHEV-GT Our temps have been in the single digits 'C. Got 90 to 97 kms, when we were in tge high teens. Sure wish the Level was using the Telsa plug and not the ChaDeMo.
The Mazda is wider for sure, but most of that 16" more in length is the nose(side by side comparison shows this)...which is why rear storage is comparable.
🤔 I thought he said the Mitsubishi had 16inches less in the cargo area, not the nose. I went with the CX90 PHEV Premium, absolutely satisfied with my purchase.
hey there, thanks for the review. Stories are coming out for the outlander 2023 and 2024 models that the engineers chose to get rid of the battery warmer and in the Canadian winters, when the temp goes below -20 Celsius these cars will not start at all, not even on the ICE engine due to how they are built. They cannot even be jump started, any idea on this? Also, if you don't have a garage and leave the Car out in the Canadian winters, will this lead to a faster battery degradation?
The 1500W inverter is huge. It allows the vehicle to be used as a generator casually, without complex setups. A really really efficient mobile generator. Ignored by so many car manufacturers. It was the difference between "I dont care how this car moves" and "I now own a really good multitool". Power went out a bit ago. I just plugged the vital appliances into the car for what seemed like limitless energy. It can regenerate the power at 3 times the cost of hydro.
I've heard from owners that this projector on the windshield does not support the display of turn arrows on the navigator if you have connected your phone (CarPlay, Android auto). Is it true? Why did not they implemented that? You always use your phone, not the built-in navigation.
There are two different segments. CX90 based trim is 45K, PHEV 55K. Outlander based trim is 34K, PHEV 48K. Wired. looks like you're using Toyota Camry compare with BMW 5 series.
In Canada the Outlander is the obvious choice thanks to how the PHEV rebate works. A PHEV that has 50km+ of rated range gets a full 5K federal rebate, which makes the Mazda only get 2500 off. I. Some provinces this also affects their rebates so in those places it's 10K off for the outlander vs 5k for the CX-90. That makes the actual purchae price gap very wide.
For the mitsubishi phev, they said it can tow 2000 pounds. In the mitsubishi phev manual, it said it can tow 10000 pounds max. I assume that means it can never exceed a 10000 pound load in any conditions, but yea, its got some wiggle room there.
I saw online there are worldwide complaints and an online petition about early degradation of the Mitsubishi PHEV battery. I wonder if this has been addressed? Definitely a deal breaker between the two vehicles.
I do wish the outlander was bigger and perhaps a bigger version or another car same aesthetic from Mitsubishi is in the works? Just was curious what Mazda have, I did dig Mazda design for a while 10 years ago but now just won't buy, the int design, the 360 camera and carplay is a deal breaker. At the top trim price I may as well add a bit go with a F pace or Defender(a bit more and infotainementnot that great wother) for that matter but its a boxy defender.
Just out of curiosity and in the interest of economy on long term regarding servicing costs for these hybrids with extra consumables or parts that still need to be replaced and other taxes that still can apply for PHEV so my question is why put a little more extra money going for higher prices on GT lines of these PHEV that would jump the price roughly from 60k towards 70k and not try to get a lower spec full electric Rivian R1S that is more spacious and capable enough even in lower price spec with just one motor or rear axle and long-range battery pack for longer distance between charging points ?..
Because of range anxiety and lack of electric infrastructure to match the conveinence of access and time that we are used to. People tend to focus on the 5% of time they will be put out.
@@drzoidberg1 Lack of electric infrastructure ? unless you are living in wilderness that is expanding to cover very good most points of interests from each continent, range anxiety the latest facelift tesla 3 just released a week ago has new batteries that can go from 400 miles up to 500 between charges, Hyundai ioniq 5 & 6 from 300 up to 600 miles depending on version, kia has released EV6 & EV9 with very good range as well between charges, R1T just released recently the dual motor version (since the first versions so far were only quad motors) and the new dual motor has same creature comfort interiors but is more affordable and lighter weight that with max pack long range it can do now between 400 miles close to 500 in daily road use between the charges, so really ? i'm not using my petrol car in Europe on such great distances daily, only in longer vacancy, holiday or weekend trips and with more home chargers provided by each manufacturer the daily use is going to be more easy also considering the fact that in use electrics do not emit anything in use no noise no toxic gasses or unburned fumes so they do not get taxed for pollution specially in big cities, less moving parts is also a plus less maintenances costs etc.. and if you still want to do like up to 1000 km in zones were is no electricity there are portable electric charges can be like 4 units in the trunk in a longer trip they do help but if that is still not enough then small power trailers that when are parked can re-charge EV also have up to 9 (2x3) extensible solar pannels for getting solar energy when the electric vehicle is in the middle of nowhere.. watch Byorn Nyland channel he did a trip across Norway from south up to the far north point he could go with an electric iD-Buzz facing even winter blizzard from Arctic circle.. he had only 2 electric portable units in the back of the iD-Buzz for safety precaution and proof useful when he charged a lady BMW i3 enough to get her to a proper charger station..
@@poplaurentiu4148 good list but the public perception is that it is still not at the same level as gas accessibility. Right or wrong that is the perception to answer your question. The mob is fickle.
CX90 is not in the same class as the Mitsubishi Outlander. Instead, the Outlander is equivalent to Nissan X-Trail and Mazda CX-5. Since MazdaCX-5 is a cheaper CX-60, and CX-60 is a smaller CX-90, thus the CX-90 is not only designed to be larger but also more premium than the Outlander.
Yes agree however the reason why I compared these 2 is because they’re roughly the same price as tested so a buyer may consider both when looking for a 3 row PHEV
Adding a 3rd row to compact vehicles is almost always a mistake imo. Are they assuming their main consumers are families with 4+ small children? Give a spacious 2nd bench row and ample cargo space, please lol.
Too bad Cx90 is not sold on Europe. CX60 they sell has bit jerky transmission and hard suspension. Mitsubishi is. Ad Outlander is a great car. We will however get Hyundai Santa fe(2024) plugin hybrid later which is on bigger side
@@metrosb2593their hybrids have been good. Issues with other engines mostly and DCT transmission what has never been used with hybrids. Their hybrid tech is ok. Just like Mazda. Nothing can beat Toyota tech still.
My CX90 PHEV Premium came with a $7500 Rebate @ lease signing, I Believe the these 2 vehicles are in 2 different classes, only commonality is the Plug in capabilities. The Mitsubishi is a little less in price but you can tell in the craftsmanship of the interior. Mitsubishi interior looks a little cheesy to me. Not to mention the residual value of both in 3 yrs, Mitsubishi has NEVER been able to hold value over time.
You shouldn't hire your handyman to paint your car. I assure you that any automotive paint professional will be able to handle color matching a 3 stage paint.
The Mitsubishi is a rebadged Nissan Rogue. In the USA. Nissan doesn’t have a Phev rogue. The Mazda is not a compact, even in the USA. Don’t know why said that in the review. The outlander could be considered a compact.
They were compared because of the similar price. Similar than rogue but not quite rebadged. Rogue has different styling, available with a different powertrain, equipped different especially for interior materials and doesn’t have the same warranty as the Mitsubishi.
soul red paint is not good. It chips easily and the white primer shows . This proble started in 2017 on my cx5 wich mazda repainted the whole car. I have seen 2020,21,22 with the same issue ,so they do not deserve any awards for a 600.00 upgrade paint that is flawed
Everybody claims Mazda’s new CX-90 is competing with luxury European brands and you’re comparing it to a bloody Mitsubishi. Lol. Honestly though… having driven the CX-90…. your comparison is far more accurate! It is nowhere near the luxury levels of the Europeans!
@@RajaMungamuri I have not owned a Mitsubishi since 2000. We had a new 1994 Eagle Summit and once that thing got past it’s 5 year warranty, it started eating $400 distributors every 18 months like clockwork. I’m sure the new ones are better but I won’t risk it. I have me fave brands/models now and will stick to what I know are extremely reliable and backed by third party testing.
@@EverydayReviews2022 no, there is nothing variable part. It locks engine through single gear on transmission with clutch and that's it. You have a feel of variable, because engine spins generator, but it is not mechanical. Look at gkn transmission
@@artempavlov4599. You make valid points. The trouble is even the dealers and much adverting still refers to them as CVT. And the name CVT seems to stick across the board for the Outlander.
Im sick of bubble cars everywhere. Idk who designed them, but they ruined vans because they were like "Make it look like a bubble! Remove space inside arbitrarily". The boxiness, or lack of bubble in every aspect of the design is a huge part of why the car is great. The inner roof space doesnt bend down for no good freaking reason.
It’s because when you have kids , they have friends and sometimes you need to pick them up from school or soccer practise or maybe grandma and grandpa need to fit in with the kids so you don’t need to take 2 cars. Lots of scenarios.
this mindset is the same as when people say, an electric car with real world 280 miles range is not enough for them, when their daily commute amounts to 60-70 miles, but cos they might want to go for a 1000 miles distance maybe once in a year, they cant get an electric car... (instead of just renting an ice car for that specific occasion.. @@EverydayReviews2022
You have never experienced not being able to fit all the people you need to inside a vehicle, and they HAVE to go with you have you. You dont notice it until its suddenly a problem, and then its a huge problem.
The Mitsubishi Outlander looks more stylish, sporty and /modern...impressive.
lol
it's a nissan in the front and a jeep in the back.
I have been driving my Outlander PHEV for 4 months now and agree with your assessment. The Outlander size works for me as it usually just me and my wife and two dogs. The car is used for commuting and weekend outings. I actually considered CX-90, but ultimately the car would be too big for 95% of the time, and the most concerning issue is that this is Mazda’s first ever PHEV so there will be problems. On the other hand, Mitsubishi has been in the PHEV business for over 10 years that is proven to be reliable.
How do you carry the dogs? Do you use the third row for them?
We would put the dogs in the 3rd row if we have 4-5 adults in the car, but we haven’t ran into this situation yet.
@crazylala2003 How is the massage seat function? I've never heard of any other car having that feature, seems a lil gimmicky to me.
@@Shady36mine is the SE with Tech package, so I don’t have massage seats.
How about service costs?
I experienced driving both. I own a Mitsubishi here in the US and I love it! Great little compact SUV at a great price!
I looked at a Mitsubishi today. Very impressive.
I'd take the Outlander all day everyday, out of all the PHEV's, its the most EV like.
How's the fuel consumption when the battery dies?
Great comparison! Glad I went with the Outlander phev.
It's been two months since I've been driving my Outlander and I literally like it. As you mentioned, the range and fuel economy have been much better for me than the rating.
How far have you pushed it?
How many miles can you get on a full tank?
@@fokker4uifyMitsubishi claims 420 mile range but we got 465 and still had gas left..
I can get 100km on my Outlander. But 90km more typical. So pleased with it :)
How do you find the usability of the third row? I see it listed with a third row legroom of just under 20 inches... that sounds awfully tight
Just took delivery of CX-90 GT today, it's very smooth. When I tested both PHEV and MHEV, they were both very smooth too. I think it has to do with driving habit.
Ever notice how you don't see a lot of *old* Mazdas around? There's a reason for that.....
The Mitsubishi is cheaper, better equipped, with a longer warranty, and is nicer to live with day to day. If you're going to keep it then it is the only rational choice. If you're going to sell it within 3 years or lease either, then the Mazda is the better choice financially, but it's still worse in all the other ways mentioned.
I've been driving the Outlander for about a year and I am currently at 0.9l/100 KMS. Last time I pumped gas was about 4 months ago
The Outlander can unlock the rear doors. Just push the door handle button twice.
Android Auto is NOT wireless on the Outlander. Only CarPlay.
Great review! These two will be in my list of cars to purchase in 2-3 years
I was gonna buy the outlander but the dealbreaker for me is the 3rd row space and the cargo room behind the 3rd row. I wish they made it bigger like a pathfinder
Yes, you do have to remember that this is a compact.
Personally, I'm happy it's the size it is. Sorrento (the only other 3 row PHEV at the time I bought ) and Pathfinder are both too big for my parking situation. Outlander juuuuust fits.
Buying the Outlander GT this week
Thanks for the comparison video. Just wanted to add that your microphone levels are hot meaning the levels are too high. You can fix it in post by normalizing all audio or when you record with your mic try to lower the sensitivity. good work though. Keep it up.
Thank you for such a useful review, I have decided to go for Outlander.
Living in South Africa we have planned blackouts for 6-10 hours per day. Mitsubishi makes sense to me in that I can run my home and shop when we have planned blackouts. Turning phev into a generator just makes sense to me for emergencies .. cmon.. one last thing fly useless kiddie seats and give me a spare tyre rather.. dont want to be stuck on the side of the road in SA. That could mean someone's demise
I guess this is the perfect review who picked the right vehicles to show what is it upto... Thanks for the compassion and through review !
I own Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV 2023 GTP White Diamond with Black Roof, I do able to pull lots of mileage on EV despite not having charging facility for now.. Level 3 is super hit for me at $3.5 for 30 mins 60~66KM range works :) & a free Level 2 when I drop my kids for recreation programs.
Loved it by all means the way transmission does switching is amazing infact on the other day my friends who own Rav4 Hybrid asking me is there any sound damps installed in my car LoL.
Quite, smooth and love the mileage... 100% it was downplayed by many reviewers by just talking about official figures of mileage but fact is in real world I see much better mileage as mentioned in the review.
Only thing puzzled me about Mitsubishi is why they went with 3.3KW onboard charger but not with 6.6KW for J1772 port not sure if it is cost cutting or no R&D or limitation created because of Level 3 on board otherwise absolutely works with overnight charge of 12hrs to full from zero to 100% in level1.
last but not least, on the other hand almost all reviewers were hyping Mazda CX90 without speaking about low speed transmission jerks which is evident in all trim levels - Hope people does test drive and buy ! Agreed Mazda too is good looking inside interiors though I didnt like the back exterior part.
I read somewhere they went with a 3.8? kw charger I make it go easier on the batteries. I don't know if I believe that or not. But after three weeks of level 1 I couldn't take it anymore so I bought a level 2 charger and it is like a new vehicle to me. I agree I wish it was 6 kw but still being able to charge it two to three times faster than level one is awesome. Full in 6 hours is transformative.
@@mikeintampa250 Our outy got level 2 onboard 240V / 15A EVSE limitation means it can max out at 3600watts i.e. 3.6KW in an ideal scenario it may go upto 3.3kw, might be 3.8kw could be a measurement range approximate values. having said wish Outlander comes up with upgrade package onboard charging system :D
I may be in the minority, but I love the dial. My previous vehicles had the touchscreen and keeping the screen free from fingerprints was a losing battle. Once you get the hang of using the dial, you'll find it super convenient.
My '23 LE PHEV avg is 4.8 liters/100 km after 8200 km. That include 2000 km of winter driving. It's doing exactly what I was expecting. Be reliable, confortable and has good enough dynamic for an suv on 18 inches wheel. But... I've replace the stock falken right before I took delivery.
Thanks for providing mechanical info about how the drive system works.
Other CX90 reviewers have also mentioned its jerky/clunky transmission activity, at lower RPM, when trying to drive gently in neighborhoods or in stop & go traffic. Apparently it affects more than just the PHEV version. This is a glitch that might be overlooked on a typical rushed/enthusiastic/aggressive test drive. Thanks for catching it.
The PHEV has less of what you describe than the Inline-6 model. I'm a CX-90 PHEV owner, and had nothing to complain about the transmission, also enjoy higher MPG than conventional torque-converted automatics would provide.
Could you do a conparison between the outlander phev and Cx-60?
Test drove both and leaning more towards the outlander.
The Outlander PHEV is the better car of this group. The CX-90 is better with the 3.3L inline 6 turbo, but the PHEV version was meant for Europe where I6 engines are taxed heavily & EVs are more common. The Mazda PHEV isn't as refined as the Mitsubishi which is almost EV like in its operation.
Excellent and very detailed video, really appreciate your work! My decision is made, thank you
I don't see any mention about the cold weather issues they both have, I tried to test drive the Outlander and due to the cold they could not get it to run in EV mode, "Too cold for the battery" And I have read many cases where the Mazda actually could not even start (not even start the engine) due to cold. Also I have seen many cases where the EV range was more than cut in half due to the cold.
Nice video,just wandering if mitsubishi will bring Mitsubishi eclipse cross PHEV to North American market like they have in other countries
Not sure
The throttle management on CX-90 PHEV got way better after 1-2 weeks of driving after delivery. I bet the car's module learned my driving style and adjusted shifts based on that. Shifting out of Sport to Normal mode will also result in smoother acceleration.
Nice video! Happy to see the Outlander PHEV actually compared up the next class CX-90 ❤
Mazda is definitely not the next class😂
Great video / comparison. It would be great if you can do a comparison on the 2023 Outlander PHEV and the 2023 Toyota RAV4 Prime PHEV to see if the RAV4 Prime to see which is the better PHEV!! Another question is do you see a mid-cycle refresh from Mitsubishi providing the option to have or remove the 3rd row for better cargo space as well as improve the hybrid efficiency to better match the Toyota RAV4 Prime 6.2L/100km??
Thanks!!
That would be a natural comparison for sure except it’s almost impossible to get a RAV4 Prime. They’re so rare so it almost doesn’t matter how efficient it is. I actually liked the Prone so much I was ready to buy one but couldn’t handle the super long wait. My friend has had one on order for over 2 years.
@russeldobie2489 in other markets you can get the Outlander PHEV without the 3rd row. Removing the 3rd seems very easy, there is a lot of documentation on Facebook on how to do it, and it removes a noticable amount of weight. What I don't like about removing it is that it gives you an uneven cargo floor. But I guess it would not be very hard to homemade a floor cover for when you really need a flat floor.
@@EverydayReviews2022. The Prime is truly an outstanding vehicle, but yes I see your point in what is the point if you’re waiting an eternity. It’s quite funny as I believe in Australia they’re already taking orders for the 6th generation RAV4 which is a year or 2 away.
Cheers NZ.
Love this review!
My wife and daughter bumped into you at Costco. 😂 That one time I didn't go with them.
Next time for sure!!
Mitsubishi Motors ❤️
Good day from Georgia my brother. I am a the begging stage of leasing a PHEV and my gosh your right about the transmission. It bucks and stutters in 1st and 2nd gear. I had the dealership look at it, and though they are aware of the issue there is no fix. The CX 90 is a tail of 3 personalities. On the highway its smooth the transition from battery to engine is simple sad. I mostly regret the purchase. I will be getting out of as soon as I can.
Great review and comparison. I am actually literally deciding between these two and your video was super helpful. I am leaning towards the Outlander, as I like the look more, but that 3rd row is a joke! Luckily I won't need it often (just for occasional emergency use). And I am getting out of a Volvo XC90 phev lease now: I definitely do NOT recommend that car.
One other difference is the CX-90 has a spare tire, but the Outlander does not...
It takes 5 minutes to inflate a tire with fix a flat sealent, but at least 30 minutes to replace a tire. The probability of being run over on a highway or rural road by a reckless or drunk driver is more likely to happen changing a tire than using sealant. Changing tires on the road not safe...IMHO
@@dorado0359 id rather a spare, tyres can't always be fixed with sealent and depending on location could leave you stranded waiting on a tow truck.
@@dorado0359yeah no it takes me 10 mins
@@allmtbnzscottbrownhill2896 Totally agree with you, I had a car with no spare and only a emergency sealing can thing you use with an included pump, bug the damage was too bad all that just leaks out and not being able to form a seal, I had run over a big pot hole causing a big hole in the side wall, I ended up paying 800 for towing as I was in a small reserve town on a road trip on a Sunday night, options were very limited. So I would consider that spare as big plus.
Mid East specs outlander has spare tyre.
5'8" 160 lbs is fine in the Outlander 3rd row.
I’m not believe you , there is no way to get 3 rd how first , and no room for foot or head space . It’s a garbage I’m 5.8 with 220 lb that’s my experience
I leased a 2023 Outlander SE PHEV last month. I got $7200 (USD) in EV credits, and I put some money down ($5000 USD out the door including all fees and first month's payment) and I'm paying $317/month. I think the MSRP was around $45000. It's a 2 year lease. I really wanted to buy a Kia Carnival but hard to find the LX (lowest trim) which has the captains chairs in the 2nd row and can tow 3500 lbs. Interest rates are ridiculous. We could buy one cash but we need our savings for our home. I saw the Outlander as a decent "stop gap" car for the meantime while the car market and bond market figures out what it wants to do, do rates go up, stay the same, or go down. I think interest rates in general will indeed be higher for longer as they say but how long?? That's why I leased it. On an overall scale of 1-10, I have to give it a 6. I'm an internal combustion engine kind of guy. I don't appreciate the level of complexity in this vehicle even though I see areas where they tried to make things simple. Took me a week of driving it to figure out how to get into Reverse without trouble. I like normal mechanical levers to shift. This isn't my first Mitsubishi product however. There's no way I was going to get a Kia Carnival (MSRP $36000 + $4000 market adjustment) for $317/month for 2 years. That market adjustment also bothers me. Now the used ones are finally coming down in price. I'm having a hard time getting a tow hitch from Mitsubishi for that "amazing" 1500 lbs. towing capacity they advertise. Looks like it was a bait and switch. I called my sales dealer and another Mitsubishi dealer and both service departments tell me that Mitsubishi is not releasing a tow hitch for the Outlander PHEV after all. Luckily Curt makes one along with the wiring kit and my dealer service manager was able to order it from etrailer and they're going to install it for $640, on Mitsubishi's website on the car builder tool says you can add the tow hitch packs for $765 but that's probably a factory installed or port installed price. The sales manager gave me a discount on the $765 to make the sale probably not knowing that dealer installed should be a lot more than ,$765, I didn't know either. So we're just waiting on the parts now. I would install it myself but being it's a lease vehicle that I'm not going to purchase and the amount of electronics in this thing, I'd rather just pay them to put it in. My next vehicle will already have a tow hitch installed from the factory or port, whatever vehicle it ends up being.
Wow you live in a crazyland. The carnival was 10k cheaper than this when I was looking around at cars. Freaking awesome vehicle too.
What’s the residual value of your lease after two years?
I just got the sel premium black with grey hood! It was 54k but I was able to get a bunch of discount with my military/ owning a 2015 outlander sports ( my sister uses it) n got the car for 47k! With my good credit score I only put down 4k n monthly is 430$ a month for 36months. I really just use it to drive to school and back 😂 I love it tho! I use to daily my 2018 sti and cali gas was getting expensive
Considered and test drive the outlander. Wanted to buy onee but extra dealer adjustment fee over national msrp turned us off. Cash grab by local dealers who added no value made us stop the purchase. We got a tesla and the user interface and infomat system od tesla is at least a generation ahead of Mitsubishi... and most other car manufacturers
Great comparison, Brian! Appreciate the practical highlights of each vehicle.
6 critical recalls on the cx90 and forums full of horror stories of catastrophic failure. Combined with almost half the range (my best was 43 miles so far not even tryin, I know I can hit 50) of the Outlander, the Outlander PHEV was a nobrainer for me.
The Mazda level 1 charge spec is a little bit of a fudge. They are measuring the time to charge from 20% to 80% full. Using a standard 120volt 15amp circuit, you can only charge at a maximum rate of 1.4kw per hour. The Outlander charges from a 120 v circuit at the same rate. Their 16 hour figure comes from the fact that it is speced at charging a 20kwh battery to 100%. If they speced it to charge from 20 to 80% it wouldn't be too much more. What really counts is how many Kms you can drive on 1 hour of charging. As for their Level 2 charging spec that probably is better because Mitsubishi only has a 3.5kw on board charger. It can only charge at 16 at 240 volts. The cx90 charges are 30 amps at 240volts.
And it's generally silly to say "The Mazda charges faster" when it's only adding 26.1 miles of range versus the Outlander's 38 miles of range. If your commute is over 26 miles, then your only choice is to use gas beyond that 26 mile mark.
The Mitsubishi is quite a Gem❤
I like the outlander. Not only cheaper but I like the look of it better. Only concern is all that tech. Although nice, might be a pain when things start breaking. One feature I love is the back armrest pass thru. I can have my dog in the back and have the armrest down and he can stick his head thru. Brilliant.
Great review, thank you.
I am also getting 84 to 95 kms on EV Mode on my 2024 PHEV-GT
Our temps have been in the single digits 'C. Got 90 to 97 kms, when we were in tge high teens.
Sure wish the Level was using the Telsa plug and not the ChaDeMo.
Mazda is great, the outlander also but I prefer Mazda because they have been doing better then other companies
The Mazda is wider for sure, but most of that 16" more in length is the nose(side by side comparison shows this)...which is why rear storage is comparable.
The Mazda has longer wheelbase. That will help with interior space.
🤔 I thought he said the Mitsubishi had 16inches less in the cargo area, not the nose. I went with the CX90 PHEV Premium, absolutely satisfied with my purchase.
hey there, thanks for the review. Stories are coming out for the outlander 2023 and 2024 models that the engineers chose to get rid of the battery warmer and in the Canadian winters, when the temp goes below -20 Celsius these cars will not start at all, not even on the ICE engine due to how they are built. They cannot even be jump started, any idea on this?
Also, if you don't have a garage and leave the Car out in the Canadian winters, will this lead to a faster battery degradation?
The 1500W inverter is huge. It allows the vehicle to be used as a generator casually, without complex setups. A really really efficient mobile generator.
Ignored by so many car manufacturers. It was the difference between "I dont care how this car moves" and "I now own a really good multitool".
Power went out a bit ago. I just plugged the vital appliances into the car for what seemed like limitless energy. It can regenerate the power at 3 times the cost of hydro.
Also handy for making blended drinks in remote areas lol.
The Outlander is a great 2-row PHEV SUV!! The 3rd row is more of a wish than reality!!
I get 70-80km range on my outlander per charge.
I've heard from owners that this projector on the windshield does not support the display of turn arrows on the navigator if you have connected your phone (CarPlay, Android auto). Is it true? Why did not they implemented that? You always use your phone, not the built-in navigation.
does outlander have digital rear-view mirror ? the head rests on the third row block the view?
Good review
There are two different segments. CX90 based trim is 45K, PHEV 55K. Outlander based trim is 34K, PHEV 48K. Wired. looks like you're using Toyota Camry compare with BMW 5 series.
😂Just a Mazda 😂
Like them both 🎉
In Canada the Outlander is the obvious choice thanks to how the PHEV rebate works. A PHEV that has 50km+ of rated range gets a full 5K federal rebate, which makes the Mazda only get 2500 off. I. Some provinces this also affects their rebates so in those places it's 10K off for the outlander vs 5k for the CX-90. That makes the actual purchae price gap very wide.
But the cx90 will actually start in cold weather unlike the outlander.
Mitsu for the win! 🏆 😊
I'd go for a lower spec of the Mitsubishi. It easily does over 80 km on EV only.
I saw the ev gauge say 110km of power available once. You just gotta drive at 80.
For the mitsubishi phev, they said it can tow 2000 pounds.
In the mitsubishi phev manual, it said it can tow 10000 pounds max.
I assume that means it can never exceed a 10000 pound load in any conditions, but yea, its got some wiggle room there.
Absolutely not 10000 lbs.
outlander best of best
If you have to choose from Outlander, Cx90 or Tesla Y. Which will you pick?
Never an EV for me but I like hybrids and phevs..
Is 57k price of outlander is before rebate or after?
Msrp I.e. before hst + rebate total will end up at approx 61grand
I saw online there are worldwide complaints and an online petition about early degradation of the Mitsubishi PHEV battery. I wonder if this has been addressed? Definitely a deal breaker between the two vehicles.
I haven't heard that but will check. For first generation or this latest one?
It didn’t state on the article
Are the 2023 and 2024 Outlander PHEV the same?
Yes they are the same
which it had ventilated seats
I do wish the outlander was bigger and perhaps a bigger version or another car same aesthetic from Mitsubishi is in the works? Just was curious what Mazda have, I did dig Mazda design for a while 10 years ago but now just won't buy, the int design, the 360 camera and carplay is a deal breaker. At the top trim price I may as well add a bit go with a F pace or Defender(a bit more and infotainementnot that great wother) for that matter but its a boxy defender.
Just out of curiosity and in the interest of economy on long term regarding servicing costs for these hybrids with extra consumables or parts that still need to be replaced and other taxes that still can apply for PHEV so my question is why put a little more extra money going for higher prices on GT lines of these PHEV that would jump the price roughly from 60k towards 70k and not try to get a lower spec full electric Rivian R1S that is more spacious and capable enough even in lower price spec with just one motor or rear axle and long-range battery pack for longer distance between charging points ?..
Because of range anxiety and lack of electric infrastructure to match the conveinence of access and time that we are used to. People tend to focus on the 5% of time they will be put out.
@@drzoidberg1 Lack of electric infrastructure ? unless you are living in wilderness that is expanding to cover very good most points of interests from each continent, range anxiety the latest facelift tesla 3 just released a week ago has new batteries that can go from 400 miles up to 500 between charges, Hyundai ioniq 5 & 6 from 300 up to 600 miles depending on version, kia has released EV6 & EV9 with very good range as well between charges, R1T just released recently the dual motor version (since the first versions so far were only quad motors) and the new dual motor has same creature comfort interiors but is more affordable and lighter weight that with max pack long range it can do now between 400 miles close to 500 in daily road use between the charges, so really ? i'm not using my petrol car in Europe on such great distances daily, only in longer vacancy, holiday or weekend trips and with more home chargers provided by each manufacturer the daily use is going to be more easy also considering the fact that in use electrics do not emit anything in use no noise no toxic gasses or unburned fumes so they do not get taxed for pollution specially in big cities, less moving parts is also a plus less maintenances costs etc.. and if you still want to do like up to 1000 km in zones were is no electricity there are portable electric charges can be like 4 units in the trunk in a longer trip they do help but if that is still not enough then small power trailers that when are parked can re-charge EV also have up to 9 (2x3) extensible solar pannels for getting solar energy when the electric vehicle is in the middle of nowhere.. watch Byorn Nyland channel he did a trip across Norway from south up to the far north point he could go with an electric iD-Buzz facing even winter blizzard from Arctic circle.. he had only 2 electric portable units in the back of the iD-Buzz for safety precaution and proof useful when he charged a lady BMW i3 enough to get her to a proper charger station..
@@poplaurentiu4148 good list but the public perception is that it is still not at the same level as gas accessibility. Right or wrong that is the perception to answer your question. The mob is fickle.
Could never get an R1S for anywhere close to that price in Canada. If I could get one for 70k I would. Great vehicle.
CX90 is not in the same class as the Mitsubishi Outlander. Instead, the Outlander is equivalent to Nissan X-Trail and Mazda CX-5. Since MazdaCX-5 is a cheaper CX-60, and CX-60 is a smaller CX-90, thus the CX-90 is not only designed to be larger but also more premium than the Outlander.
Yes agree however the reason why I compared these 2 is because they’re roughly the same price as tested so a buyer may consider both when looking for a 3 row PHEV
Why comparing a mid trim with a top trim?
The price is very similar in both these trims is why I compared them. You can buy one that’s fully loaded or one not as much but get more room.
The trunk taillights are identical 😂
Great video but wireless android Auto is not available on any trim. Only wired
Wireless for sure on GT trim and wireless on Outlander as well. I have it and can confirm
@@EverydayReviews2022 I also have the outlander gt/p it does not have wireless android Auto. It has wireless apple car play.
@@anthonyg8435 ahhh gotcha. Missed the Android part. Thanks
Honestly outlander for 3th row , it's kind of big a joke , that's big reason family 👨👨👦👦 👨👨👦👦 moving to the other brands
Adding a 3rd row to compact vehicles is almost always a mistake imo. Are they assuming their main consumers are families with 4+ small children? Give a spacious 2nd bench row and ample cargo space, please lol.
How many isofix have the Mazda?
Sorry I didn’t look. Most likely just 2 in the second row though.
Very comparable SUVS
Both have gorgeous rear end designs
And both have goping, slovenly front end design 😂
CX-90 GT DOES have a 1500 watt inverter.
Too bad Cx90 is not sold on Europe. CX60 they sell has bit jerky transmission and hard suspension. Mitsubishi is. Ad Outlander is a great car. We will however get Hyundai Santa fe(2024) plugin hybrid later which is on bigger side
Hyundai hybrid train good? I know hyundai has a bit sketchy history with their engine
@@metrosb2593their hybrids have been good. Issues with other engines mostly and DCT transmission what has never been used with hybrids. Their hybrid tech is ok. Just like Mazda. Nothing can beat Toyota tech still.
Good luck on Hyundai. Hehehe
Mitsu for the win.
My CX90 PHEV Premium came with a $7500 Rebate @ lease signing, I Believe the these 2 vehicles are in 2 different classes, only commonality is the Plug in capabilities. The Mitsubishi is a little less in price but you can tell in the craftsmanship of the interior. Mitsubishi interior looks a little cheesy to me. Not to mention the residual value of both in 3 yrs, Mitsubishi has NEVER been able to hold value over time.
That Outlander looks similar to Range Rover. I like the dual tone paint
The mazda paint is hard to match if you get in a accident.
You shouldn't hire your handyman to paint your car. I assure you that any automotive paint professional will be able to handle color matching a 3 stage paint.
Outlander better
The Mitsubishi is a rebadged Nissan Rogue. In the USA. Nissan doesn’t have a Phev rogue. The Mazda is not a compact, even in the USA. Don’t know why said that in the review. The outlander could be considered a compact.
They were compared because of the similar price. Similar than rogue but not quite rebadged. Rogue has different styling, available with a different powertrain, equipped different especially for interior materials and doesn’t have the same warranty as the Mitsubishi.
soul red paint is not good. It chips easily and the white primer shows . This proble started in 2017 on my cx5 wich mazda repainted the whole car. I have seen 2020,21,22 with the same issue ,so they do not deserve any awards for a 600.00 upgrade paint that is flawed
@@mikeg2716 Thanks for the info.
Mazda is more mote better ❤
what the hell is wrong with the headlights on the outlander?? it`s borderline creepy..
😂
Towing is 1600 KG =3527. pounds
on long trip fill petrol plug charger go for lunch done
I test drove 2 cx90 phev and didn't feel or hear any clunking...
I have cx90 phev and it's super smooth.
Mazda all the way
The Mazda look dated compared to the Outlander. Outlander look more modern
Outlander looks like a 70s sci Fi movie futuristic car
The Mazda has a reserved, classier refined appearance. Mitsubishi.....not so much.
Everybody claims Mazda’s new CX-90 is competing with luxury European brands and you’re comparing it to a bloody Mitsubishi. Lol. Honestly though… having driven the CX-90…. your comparison is far more accurate! It is nowhere near the luxury levels of the Europeans!
It's supposed to compete with entry level trims for the luxury brands with the top end trim.
And it does that very easily in all respects.
@@AbgarMusayelyan lolololol
You got any issues with Mitsubishi?
@@RajaMungamuri I have not owned a Mitsubishi since 2000. We had a new 1994 Eagle Summit and once that thing got past it’s 5 year warranty, it started eating $400 distributors every 18 months like clockwork. I’m sure the new ones are better but I won’t risk it. I have me fave brands/models now and will stick to what I know are extremely reliable and backed by third party testing.
Outlander do not have CVT - it has one fixed gear from engine.
It does have a CVT for the gas engine. They call it a single speed but it’s a variable tranny. Electric motors are direct
@@EverydayReviews2022 no, there is nothing variable part. It locks engine through single gear on transmission with clutch and that's it. You have a feel of variable, because engine spins generator, but it is not mechanical. Look at gkn transmission
@@EverydayReviews2022 it's a direct gear from the engine to the front wheels over 80 km/h. No CVT.
The only direct linkage from the ICE engine to the front wheels is through a clutch and a differential@@EverydayReviews2022
@@artempavlov4599. You make valid points. The trouble is even the dealers and much adverting still refers to them as CVT. And the name CVT seems to stick across the board for the Outlander.
Cool Nissan Rogue you have there.
Nice try but Mitsubishi dealers are not everywhere and who knows how long they will stay in the US.
Not sure how long they’ve been in the US but they’re been in Canada for over 50 years and don’t see them going anywhere soon.
Theyre comming back now.
Outlander is just ugly 😂
Right? Too boxy and "Ford" looking for my taste.
Im sick of bubble cars everywhere. Idk who designed them, but they ruined vans because they were like "Make it look like a bubble! Remove space inside arbitrarily".
The boxiness, or lack of bubble in every aspect of the design is a huge part of why the car is great. The inner roof space doesnt bend down for no good freaking reason.
i dont get why peopel buy 3 row cars when most people who actually can afford a car like these, have 1 or 2 kids, or non...
It’s because when you have kids , they have friends and sometimes you need to pick them up from school or soccer practise or maybe grandma and grandpa need to fit in with the kids so you don’t need to take 2 cars. Lots of scenarios.
this mindset is the same as when people say, an electric car with real world 280 miles range is not enough for them, when their daily commute amounts to 60-70 miles, but cos they might want to go for a 1000 miles distance maybe once in a year, they cant get an electric car... (instead of just renting an ice car for that specific occasion.. @@EverydayReviews2022
You have never experienced not being able to fit all the people you need to inside a vehicle, and they HAVE to go with you have you. You dont notice it until its suddenly a problem, and then its a huge problem.
Outlander is atrocious
Both lower end choices 👎🏼
Ok, Chief…enjoy your Buick LeSabre
@@SIGINT007
Buick sucks grandpa!
Mitsubishi Olander drove for three days, more than 100 kilometers, gasoline engine charging driven, quiet and fuel-saving. 😊