Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Can Slash Your Gas Bill
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2024
- On paper, the Mitsubishi Outlander Plug-In Hybrid is what people want these days. It’s three-row SUV that will travel 38 miles on electric power so many owners can get by on a single tank of gas a year (seriously, I’ve done it). It also has a sure-footed all-wheel drive system dubbed Super All-Wheel Control with a rear-drive performance bias. And it just took home multiple trophies at the Mudfest SUV Competition. But, how does it stack up in the real world? Tom Voelk checks out a SEL Premium model with massaging seats to see how it competes with competition from Hyundai, Kia and Toyota.
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00:00 Intro
00:56 Why A Plug In Hybrid
1:40 Pricing
2:22 Powertrain
2:49 Off Road
4:15 More Powertrain
5:05 Charging
5:30 Driving Dynamics
6:33 Efficiency
7:20 Sounds
7:53 Braking
9:03 Interior
10:27 Rear Seating
12:13 Design
12:47 Cargo Space
14:06 Red Light Green Light
15:05 Summary
16:05 Epilogue
16:59 Before I Go - Авто та транспорт
Thanks for the review! -- I bought my 2023 Outlander PHEV (SEL Premium) 4 months ago - local dealer (Columbus, Ohio - USA) had 7 Outlander PHEVs on the lot. They now have 11 on the lot with great sales deals. I got mine for $1,200 UNDER MSRP and the dealer gave me $31,500 for my 2018 Acura TLX -- I paid $18,000 plus tax for the Outlander. I have driven 4,356 miles - have used 32 gallons of gas total.
I am plugging it in every night for my daily commute and weekend errands. I have taken 2 road trips of 300 miles round trip each; got 37 “mpg” using “Normal” hybrid mode for these trips. It feels "luxurious" inside -- premium leather, panoramic roof, 360 camera, power folding side mirrors, heated steering wheel, heated front AND rear seats, hands-free tailgate, head up display, Bose speakers AND massaging front seats! If I take a longer drive, I will have no "range anxiety."
Plus, the Outlander has a 10-YEAR WARRANTY. ONE BIG NOTE: the owner's manual clearly states that the 3rd row is ONLY for people under 5' 3." I do not need a 3rd row, so I "tri-fold" it. This opens up a HUGE, DEEP storage well. And, I can stack duffel bag items on the folded 3rd row!
The RAV4 Prime may have better overall mpg, but the 18-month wait and $12,000 "dealer adjustment" are outrageous. One local dealer wanted $65k for loaded Prime with MSRP of $52k. I did not consider Kia or Hyundai brands -- "Kia boys" have stolen 3,000 of them in my area (and assaulted drivers in the process). This is a real issue.
Lastly, my home solar panels were installed 2 months ago. I got a level 2 charger in my garage 3 weeks ago. The Outlander PHEV is the PERFECT choice for me in 2023 --- availability, luxury, value and price -- a great vehicle to "step into" electrification!
It's all about you
@@buildmorefarms1007 Thanks for the support of me and the Outlander!
I went to a Toyota dealer here in Chicago to look at a RAV4 PHEV. MSRP on their website was 52K. The dealer proceeded to tell me that my trade iin on a 2015 Chevy Colorodo 4x4 was only 10K when BB says it is worth at least 18K. He then quoted me a price of 67K with dealer markup. Who in the Hell is going to buy these? I called the local Mitsubishi dealer and they quoted me the same price as the MSRP of ~ 45K advertised on their website. I’m waiting until September to see if there are better deals on the Outlander but I’m done with Toyota.
Prepare to get a similar trade value. They might have more room than Toyota, but you probably aren’t getting anywhere close to KBB on the trade.
I just got my brand new, 2023 pearl white exterior, grey leather interior. I'm so in love ... I've never felt this way before about a car!! She is perfect. The innovation pedal is incredible... my dash computer actually says that I'm getting more like 45-50 miles on a full battery charge. I don't even charge it every night. And the interior feels like a straight up luxury car. I don't care for the 3rd row.... it's so tiny that you'd be tempted to stick the kids back there.... but those seats look a death trap if you're in a car accident!! Don't put your kids back there!! The backseat isn't very comfortable for dogs, either.... still working on a solution for that.
I'm not even a little surprised it's an offroading sleeper.
Those of us who spent time overseas on deployment will have had time behind the wheel of all those magnificent Ute's (small block diesel crewcab trucks) we can't have in America. Everyone knows lust for the legendary Hilux, but few Americans get to operate the equally awesome overseas Mitsu Tritons and Nissan Navaras
Love mine. Two weeks in and very satisfied
how is it 8 months in?
So far, this is the best review of the PHEV that I have seen (and I watched all of them)!
Yep, though I wish more folks realized that even though the range extender needs maintenance they are so underutilized the maintenance almost never is due as long as folks aren't always on it. Like with my gen 2 Volt about 10% of the 120k km was in hybrid mode (with < 20 kW-hr worth of batteries, no need to be a hoarder to drive essentially emissions free), I can count on one hand how many times I've had to do requested oil changes. In fact I think I have gone through more sets of tires than have done oil changes. And yes the range extender has both a mode where it runs the range extender for circulating oil over seals to keep them fresh and a fuel age mode where it keeps track of average fuel age, which kicked in for me during the pandemic!
In Australia, Mitsubishi dealers are still everywhere. Also, our normal power points will charge the outlander in 9 hours because we have 240v.
your comment regarding frequency and being able to still hear it was hilarious man.
Good to see Mitsubishi getting it's competitive footing again. Would love to see them bring a US Delica. Smallish vans ready for light off-roading and city commutes is what we need
I think it has a ways to go, but yes, choice and competition is good.
@@DrivenCarReviewswas swas on added “
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Toyota Tundra and Ford F150 = US style and apreference.
It’s literally a badge engineered Nissan rogue. Look at the interior of a rogue it’s identical.
@@dontdoxmebrowrong it's not, the CMF-CD platform was co-developed between Renault, Nissan and Mitsubishi, they all shared the cost of the R&D and they're all involved in the development, this Outlander PHEV is using a Mitsubishi sourced drivetrain and PHEV System.
I've been on Hyundai AND KIA waiting list for over 1 year to get my hand on their PHEV, to no avail. I was informed 3 weeks ago that the waiting lists were cancelled...and they were moving out of the PHEV production. Met with Mitsubishi dealer 2 weeks ago. I am getting my 2024 Outlander Phev GT in April. Way to go Mitsubishi...
That’s awesome! Did you buy it? Are you liking it?
@ejohnson3131 Yep, I am a proud owner of a 2024 Mitsubishi Outlander GT PHEV since April 2024. Best 👌 vehicule purchase I have done in the last 20 years.
My wife has had for a couple of months. A great vehicle with excellent comfort and interior size practicality. The range is impacted by weather, drive style, drive location and ability to charge. We drive mainly urban and some highway. We can charge daily. We use the regenerative braking most of the time. We are getting up to 44 miles on a charge. Our combined mpg is 79. Our first fill up was at 1000 miles.
Your first combined is a fictitious number. You can't attribute miles moved by electricity to a gallon of gasoline.
Hi….Thanks. I am refering to the MPGe. I appreciate this is a debatable point. The EPA rates it at 68 MPGe and Mitsubishi claim something like 75. I was trying to highlight that she had driven 1000 miles and we have filled once (given we can charge on a regular basis). Current we are at 1900 miles and have not filled since 1000 and still have 200 miles of combined range if we do not charge. Currently the car is reading 79 MPGe. This type of vehicle is only worth it if you charge on a regular basis. Its good for urban driving and short distances. Thanks
The Chevy Volt had programmed in it to start the engine and run it for while to stop it from deteriating from lack of use. Also, that gas should be used up at least every time the seasonal fuel mix changes. My first tank on my 2021 Prius Prime was 1500 miles. Since then, more like 8 or 9 hundred to keep the gas fresh.
Yes. Thanks. That started to dawn on me. Now focused on getting the balance right.
@@chaswd3790I also have a 2023 Outlander PHEV. FYI, as mentioned in the manual, the system will automatically turn on the ICE to use up 15 litres of gas every 3 months if you have not already done so in order to keep the fuel from going stale. I generally only keep it 1/2 filled (or less) for city driving and fill it up only prior to a long trip.
Just bought an SE and my buddy is getting this PHEV we're all excited!
Good job on review this model. Thank you Tom @Driven
I looked at one of these 4 years ago and ended up getting a Pacifica Hybrid which is a PHEV minivan. I don't need the AWD, and the van has way more storage and better seating.
But I am doing the opposite and ended up buying a fully loaded 2023 Outlander PHEV SEL Premium.
@@RichardJoashTanno your not. You have said this exact same comment for the last few years.
I would have preferred an option to have no 3rd row, and having more space and/or a good sized spare.
Looking at used family cars, 5-seater versions of 7 seaters depreciate a lot more. And the gain in space is usually not so much.
Why not just fold them down? There's no harm if they fold flat, only added benefit.
Super video, Tom. My theory on front-end design of most Japanese cars lately is that they turn on a powerful electromagnet at one end of the garage and dump a tool chest at the other. Wherever stuff lands, that’s the new grill.
You forgot a full length mirror from Gap.
@@DrivenCarReviews or Panel Gap
There is a giant plus for hybrids not often recognized - you can make 10 times as many with the same limited resource - Lithium. A hybrid uses a battery about 8-10x smaller than a full EV. You can drive all electric for commutes with a 38 mile all electric range; you could charge that battery with solar if you have 10 solar panels and live in the sun belt. On longer trips a full EV averages 50 mph due to charging; a hybrid averages 70mph.
MPH kills it
Outlander and X-trail (Rouge) are very popular in Australia 🇦🇺
But nowhere to plug it in
@@daidavies6210yes it’s CHADEMo. Also a 12 month wait for a new one
@@daidavies6210plug in yourehouse
@@daidavies6210 Yes, Australia has such a lack of power outlets.... what a clown.
Great review, excellent vehicle, I own one, and good sense of humor running throughout.
Thanks Tom, I want badly to like this car. Your review is helping me better understand it. You do win an award in this review at 10:20 - I've never in my life seen so many button blanks! Count 'em FIVE (5)! Wow! I guess there's a load of features on higher trim levels, making me wish they'd sent you the loaded model so I knew what all those missing buttons were for! (Of course without *this* review, I wouldn't have known there were five missing buttons 🙂)
For some reason I thought Mitsubishi left the US market. After watching this vid and a quick google search, I found there are 2 in my location.
Leased one of these and got the EV rebate. The 10 yr warranty too makes this one a hidden gem. Tarmac mode tightens up the handling. But any tips on removing the 3rd row seat?? I want that space back.
Car detailer or body shop could help you remove third row.
Should be pretty easy with a ratchet set, I do wish more manufacturers made it easy to totally eliminate it and just stuff it in the shed until needed.
Seems like it would be better without the third row 🤔
It seems like the trunk space would benefit and be more flexible
I would far prefer it sans the 3rd row, for better storage,ETC............Paul
They fold
@americanegale697 true.... but them folding down takes away what would've been underneath storage, and honestly the 3rdcrow is too small to be comfortable for the majority of people
I drove the old PHEV for few months and the new one for couple of days. The new one is excellent. They looked at every aspect of the old one and improved it. The drive is impressive.
Great review! I'm looking at this since the Rav4 Prime is "minimum 24 months" wait list.
The Costco TP test is just too funny 😂 Thanks ans take care.
Greetings from Johannesburg, South Africa, 🇿🇦 Tom. 👋🏾
Been enjoying your reviews for a couple of years now. Really enjoy your playful but well informed presentation style. In a sea of very enthusiastic, but often under-informed youngsters, it's great to hear from a gentleman of your particular age, expertise and experience.
This has probably been asked ad nauseam... But, what do you do with all that TP after filming? 😂
I made a video. Here ya go! ua-cam.com/video/y7wLdXRrjc0/v-deo.html
Got rid of my Tesla and bought one of these. I still get the benefit of EV without it’s compromises. Hopefully the winter won’t affect the range too badly!
Range will drop
I find this hard to believe lol
Excellent review.
Is the CVT the Nissan JATCO unit?
Bring the Delica! It looks so good and would kill here.
Right. Vans are always the answer in the US.
A front face only a mother could love.
An oil change yearly will cost you DIY $45-50, air and cabin filter DIY maybe $80. Also the 2.4l engine is Mitsubishi, not the Nissan 2.5l engine in the ICE version. From what I have read too the engine will be forced to run after a certain amount of days not running to keep all the fuel systems and gas fresh.
Another video with excellent info and analyses, though Outlander front design very controversial, PHEV tech sounds reliable.
PHEV can be a game changer since many inner city and close suburb drivers don't drive more than 60-70 KM. I won't use any gas if I go PHEV, but sadly, there is a 3-year plus wait time in Canada.
I don't know where you are located but I am in the GTA and based on the Mitsubishi website there are plenty available.
@@MrValy128 I am a life lifelong Toyota customer. I am based in Alberta. I checked with Toyota and Kia a few more. ON, BC, and QC get priority deliveries. Maybe it is because AB not giving any incentives. I can wait. Ideally, speaking 100 KM plus will be great.
@@faisal-ca oh that's fair. The RAV4 Prime has small production so yes that's a 3 year wait, but you could easily fly down and get a Mitsubishi PHEV, would make for a fun little adventure.
@@MrValy128 Noted, and thanks for the info.
If you won't use any gas by purchasing a PHEV, then why not just purchase an EV?
Even if you use just one tank of gas per year, that's just over one week of driving for most people. If you're taking one long road trip per year, renting a gas vehicle once per year is pretty easy.
How many 2,000 mile road trips do most people take in a year?
I am 73 so I am within the two comic strips you mentioned in my history. I have to say, Blume county may have been a little over my head… I did find it humorous at times but more times than not. I think I missed it. On the other hand, Calvin and Hobbes was where I lived. I have many collections of Calvin and Hobbes that I am constantly going through as part of my bathroom library material.
Very goog review❤
We had the 2018 until a few months ago.
Keep it charged and you'll save heaps and enjoy it. But as the gas gets old in the tank, she'll burn it off even when you've got a full battery (and the CVT transmission is garbage compared to EV mode)
So if all you ever do is commute a short distance, you'll save more buying a cheap, second hand EV and hire for the long ranges.
I think Mitsubishi is an underrated company, they seemed to slump out of view for a decade and now they are starting to come out w some affordable cars that are very appealing. Im not sure about their reliability or quality of parts, but in a market of overcomplicated, overpriced cars Mitsubishi has a chance to stand out. I mean look at that interior. I rented an Audi Q5 for a road trip, and I hated it. This Outlander looks just as nice on the inside, has the same basic tech and features, and is probably half the price of a new Audi.
I would really love to see an in depth video about the MiPilot driving assist, there are almost none on YT that show it for more than a minute or two and I'd love to see a real world test. Very close to pulling the trigger on this car but that would be cool to see.
It's very much the same if not identical to Nissan Pro Pilot Assist if you can find videos on that. In my opinion, it's not the best of its kind, that would be Hyundai/Kia Highway Driving Assist 2. But it's enough to make driving a little easier on the highway. One of the reasons I don't do in-depth evaluations of these systems is that it's very difficult to photograph properly. I assume it's the same for others.
I use it on highways and not in city driving, but I took a 6 hour road trip and it pretty much drove itself the entire time. Lets me pay attention more to my surroundings and definitely helped with driving fatigue, its great
At the moment I'm more à fan of Calvin and Habs, than Calvin & Hobbs, but both have been excellent Tom! Btw, I'm wondering when you'll a 'best of the PHEVs' review video to your lineup. Did I miss it?
I wanted one until I realized there wasn’t any Mitsubishi dealer nearby.
Kinda why I pointed it out
This is the first Mitsubishi in a long time that has caught my eye. The styling inside and out are cutting edge and very appealing. I think I would choose this Mitsubishi Outlandeer PHEV over a Tesla Y. Yes I know one is all electric but for the type of driving I do this Mitsubishi would effectively be just that.
I made that exact same decision a few months ago and don't regret it. After buying the Outlander, I went out with a friend and we compared his Y to the PHEV. The Model Y is a cool and well-engineered car, don't get me wrong, but for the price difference ($30K Cdn) and not having to install a level 2 charger, this was the right decision for my driving needs. I plug into a standard 120v outlet when needed and I'm fully charged by morning (actually, I charge to 80% to extend battery life). I really love the gas/EV flexibility of this SUV and I like the spacious interior, and sunroof, heads-up display, and heck, even the cool sounds it makes while driving it. I saved about $30K Cdn over a Model Y. The lane keeping and adaptive cruise control are much simpler than the Model Y's autonomous modes, granted, but I prefer to be in charge of my driving and not trust AI complete at this time. (Maybe that will change in the future.)
A fun anecdote: while on a recent East Coast trip, a Chevy Bolt owner was desperate to charge his vehicle at a fast charger as his battery was running low. I let him use the charger that I was plugged into and continued on my way with gas. It was great having that flexibility. Zero range anxiety.
Finding out in 2023 you can go on a tank of petrol for a year.
Me: doing that since 2013 in my Volt.
Strangely, a CHaDeMO can be found in many rapid charging locations, and so it’s still possible to refill when not near a house plug or want to fill battery on the road. A 7 kWh AC charger would have been a better choice!
Because the electric vehicle infrastructure is seriously wanting in many areas. They might be there but are they operational.
My understanding is that, to ensure the gas (petrol) doesn't get "stale", the PHEV Outlander will run the engine long enough to use at least half a tank of gas (petrol) every 3 months, regardless of what mode you choose to drive it in.
I own one in Japan, and about every three months it forces me to put 20 liters of fuel in. If I drive it extremely conservatively, I could probably get away with just over a tank of gas for the year.
Hello, does this vehicle charge the battery while you drive? also once the battery is low or empty will it automatically transfer to Petrol or a standard hybrid vehicle like Toyota Corolla hybrid? thanks
You can chose if you want to charge or not. If the battery is emtpy it stays empty. Till you say charge. Or charge at your house or a charge station.
The biggest thing for me is CHAdeMO... but hey the number of times you'll likely use that is very little compared to just sludging the day out and waiting to L2 charge at home overnight.
With that battery size and a 12A 120VAC line you can level one it overnight, level 2 should only take about four hours at 3.3 kW, that is assuming the battery has an 80 - 90 % high level restriction.
The chademo connection can also be used for some vehicle to home systems as a back-up electrical supply.
@@drzoidberg1 Outlander PHEV has a 115v 1500 watt outlet for that.
@@ihikebc2295 Good to know, but not handy leaving the door or hatch open and exposed to the elements.
@@drzoidberg1 can run the cord through a small window opening, or keep the car in the car port or put some cover on top
The Outlander looks much better in-person, IMO.
I love Calvin and Hobbes! One of the best cartoons ever! Thank you Bill Watterson. And thank you Tom, and Martin for the always-excellent videos 👍
...hope so because that giant light pod makes it look ridiculous...
Does this offer "Vehicle to Home" backup if you power fails? I know that the Chademo chargers were made with this in mind in the Japanese market for many vehicles.
No, it's a plug-in hybrid vehicle. There's only a small.
I do not believe so.
Yes it has V2H
It does as long as you have the appropriate equipment in your house.
Hi, I have a 2010 Mitsubishi outlander having gear problem, it make some disturbing sand, slow down speed, after investigation, it was said that the gear box is over heating, I was advised to change gear oil it worked but after a continuous 100klm. on long journey the problem persists until it cooled down before it works normal. What do you suggest. If I must order a new gear box how much to get it to Nigeria, I love my Mitsubishi.
Sorry Mike, I'd have to be there to help diagnose your issue. Even then, not sure you want me working on your car!
I think this has it’s niche as a 3 row, AWD PHEV, SUV at a certain price point. However, if the 3rd row is the biggest selling feature I’d look at the Pacifica PHEV as I think it would be nicer being in that third row. I much prefer the looks of the CX 90 phev.
Being an owner, yes I would agree with your comment about the 3rd row. I will see if it's possible to remove the 3rd row in the future. It's good for short people or kids in a pinch, but I don't expect to have to use that feature. Although I'm very pleased with the vehicle overall, I'll be writing a few observations and suggestions to Mitsubishi for improvements later this month and this will be one of those suggestions.
A friend at work who charges next to me has a Pacifica PHEV, I showed him a picture of me taking home a 168 cm TV, box and all, home in my Volt, he showed me a picture of him ferrying his tribe to the park, third row fully utilized! I'm really impressed with it!
Seems like a nice alternative to me. I probably wouldn’t purchase one just because it’s at least a hundred miles to the nearest dealer. But if I lived near a dealer(and didn’t already own a PHEV) I’d be interested.
The gas engine comes on and adds electricity to the battery and does not drive the front tires in most cases where extra power is needed.
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Of course you do.
The HUD looks very small on the vidéo ?
Mitsubishi is no longer present in Europe but might come back with this model, hope they do.
There's more info once the car gets to speed if I remember correctly, it's just very difficult to shoot that.
HUD is around 10" I think
Actually I forgot the Outlander is coming in Europe for the 2024 model year I think.
@@kennedy9072 I could confirm that indeed the Outlander will be return in Switzerland for the 2024 model year. The press release is actually full of marketing lies as it presents the model as new while it is already sold in other parts for the world and it also wrongly pretends the model has been specifically designed for Europe.
@@marcbungener1877 its new for that country it's not lies it's the new generation of the Outlander and yes it's been sold overseas for 2 years now but it's still new for the specific country where that specific generation is still not sold yet so technically it's still new.
nothing beat my Toyota Rav4 prime one tank i got 1270 miles + PHEV
I might be asking a totally stupid question. Can the 3rd row of seats in the Outlander PHEV be removed completely from the vehicle to give a larger & deeper storage area ?
Is electricity free everywhere except where I live? Did the calculations and with all of the maintenance and transmission fees per KWH it’s questionable if any money is saved over driving with gas. Add in the extra cost of the PHEV and possibly the interest on that amount and it’s a financial loss…and that’s if none of the extra Phev equipment ever needs replacing.
so what about -35c winter days....cant the all electric mode pre-heat the vehicle for me without turning on the gas engine?
Man iam debating between the kia sportage hybrid and the PHEV and the mitsubishi PHEV😮 i heard mitubishi giving good deals
my wife only drives 20 miles round trip about 3 times a week, maybe 50-70 miles the hole week.
I want to know how much to replace the battery when it goes bad and other electrical problems.
While there will be some battery degradation, typically batteries last the life of the car. There are plenty of hybrids that go over 200K without any issues. So that would address your electrical problems misconceptions as well.
@@DrivenCarReviews I'll wait until it's proven. I haven't seen a battery I can afford last long when it just used to start a car.
@@USMC6976 what is your minimum guaranteed mileage ? there are 2015 models with 180 000 miles i see on car sale websites
How long would it take for this model to make financial sense vs the gas model by offsetting the increased cost by saving money at the pump, assuming you drive 15k miles per year?
Sounds like an old math story problem. If you know the mpg of the gas version and the mpg of the phev and the price of each version, you can figure that out yourself.
So the first 38 miles is electric? So any long trip is basically all gas? You wouldn’t even pull off the highway to charge because it’s not even worth the time to just get the 38 miles . Am I correct? I love the styling. They have a blacked out edition near me for 32k in gas version.Looks like alot of value for the money
Correct. It would not be worth stopping to charge during a long trip. Maybe once you get to your destination, charge overnight.
which cars are direct competitor to Outlander PHEV?
So you would want to run out of battery to use gas at least once a week? Or keep half tank of gas if you charge daily? This is interesting vehicle.
Problem with all of these is the additional markup over MSRP. I have a PHEV and I have been disappointed by the range. It was supposed to get 21 miles of range but it rarely gets more than 13. Mitsubishi values drop pretty quickly.
But I disagree because I am hapoy to say that I will buy a 2023 Outlander PHEV.
Sounds like you live in a cold area or drive even harder than me.
@@DrivenCarReviews I live in Spokane WA but even warm days like today it doesn’t do any better. Oh well
I own a RAV4 Prime in The Dalles. It’s rated at 42e but is currently getting 51e miles. And on my recent trip to Coeur d’Alene the gas side returned 35mpg overall.
@@DrivenCarReviews. A lot of people don’t realise their are huge variables in standard hybrids and plug ins as far as mpg.
Problem is in areas where they force the ethanol garbage that causes damage, if it sits for over a few weeks it starts going bad in your tank risking damage to your vehicle. And the sad thing is ethanol actually causes more environmental damage. All to subsidize a farmer and virtue signal. I've had equipment damaged by it. So your forced to put StabliZ in your tanks. I might add they should add a larger model akin to the Nissan Pathfinder. That size is more practical. I own a new QX60 and it's perfect.
I love Red Rider Came Calling, a Christmas ode to Vashon Island
Yes. I wonder if the bike is still there. It was old when I saw it 20 years ago.
@@DrivenCarReviews I looked about 9 years ago and the bicycle was still there.
Of only it looked better from the front 😢
The US dollars is like Monopoly money now. Back in the 80's a fully equipped Montero was under $10K.
But then again, the minimum wage was around $3.50 an hour.
So is the transmission based on a CVT or is it technically a single/dual speed transmission?
Single Speed Transaxle GKN Multi Mode E-Transmission.
Last year I rented one to drive my daughter back to Aurora I'll from so California . It got 21 mpg which sucked plus the tank very vary small, which the range was extremely short
last year it was a different vehicle completely
We have used $180 in gas over 8 months. Our old gas vehicle would have used $1200 I. those 8 months. So we.save $1500 per year. As fuel costs go up over the years, we project to save close to $20000 in 10 years. We typically keep vehicles 15 to 20 years so my guess is we will save $30000 to $40000 in total.
Does anyone know the energy draw per vehicle? How about charging during inclement weather? We saw a ton of people up north and south being stranded. The implications of massive energy/grid draws (that they cannot keep up in states like California, Texas, and other US states)? How does an an EV charge compare to other appliances in homes, or even against your entire home in general?
Where do the batteries come from? How are they made? How and where are they mined? US national forests being mined by foreign entities....?
This is simply not true. The energy draw is different depending on the battery size. But typically charging is done at night when there's less strain on the grid.. And this is the USA. You don't think we can improve the grid?
@@DrivenCarReviewsIt is true. All of it was was recently discussed before congress.
"We" wont be able to 'improve the grid' to keep up with demand/increasing demand. Not according to all the reports from recent congressional hearings, not from the eyeball test or word of mouth.
Feel free to research the facts, not statistics which are often skewed, and answer the questions I posted.
@@DrivenCarReviewsI'm not sure why it didn't send a response, but it's factually true and accurate. No, we cannot improve the grid enough to keep up with demand.
How are the batteries created? What materials are necessary? How are the charging stations powered? You can't tell me you think the charging stations are self sufficient, correct? You never answered anything, fam.
I would love to start a DM/email thread with you to discuss it further if you're interested.
@@joselase6894 Certainly there are challenges. But these are issues that can (and must) be overcome. Renewable power sources are growing faster than people realize. Private homes are installing solar. Even the switch to LED lightbulbs has helped quite a bit. Every little bit helps. I will put my faith in Americans and their insatiable need to make money to make this happen. And I also think people need to get out of their cars and use mass transit more often. Or bikes. Or walk.Thanks for the discussion offer but I am over scheduled as it is. Cheers.
@@DrivenCarReviews Believe me everyone, mankind will overcome and evolve all technologies required as in the grid, vehicles, and charging systems.
In many years to come, we’ll more than likely move away from lithium. Within 10 years, I’m sure all EV vehicles will get a range of 1000 miles or more.
Cheers NZ.
Yes but does it have the hood fluttering issue still?
This one didn't
Gawrsh! I thought that Hyundai et al had some front ends that resembled the automotive equivalent of a "bad trip" yet Mitsi has taken the proverbial cake with this Outlier, sorry - Outlander PHEV. . Or was it a hash brownie?
I wish they would put the Rogue turbo charged 3 cylinder into the Outlander PHEV
Doesn't make any difference when it comes to power, the ICE in this Outlander PHEV is mostly a generator, even when the battery is depleted it still has full 248HP and 332lb-ft because the ICE is producing electricity for the battery to the motors.
It amazes me that any foreign manufacturers bring EVs or plug ins to the US after the change to federal tax credits. I was in favor of trying to kickstart the push to EVs at US manufacturing facilities, but completely eliminating the credit for imports just seems like a bad idea in terms of our climate goals.
I wonder if you can remove the third row seat? Seems like it should be possible. I too would rather have a spare.
Not easily, but sure.
Could be the most profound car they have made that I don't care about. Since it is a Nissan collab anyway. It looks nice though. Ride is nice. But this car is one that makes me throw the Meh switch. But the concept certainly is very nice. Mitsubishi's mission is not what it once was. Kind of shame too but hey! It is the times.
AND I AM HAPPY THAT I WILL BUY A FULLY LOADED 2023 MITSUBISHI OUTLANDER PLUG IN HYBRID EV BECAUSE MITSUBISHI'S MISSION IS ALWAYS WHAT IT ONCE WAS AND YOUR COMMENT IS THE ONE THAT MAKES ME THROW THE YOU-ARE-A-BULLSHIT SWITCH!
@@RichardJoashTan Guess you forget about EVO and 3000GT, Galant, Montero, and many more great rides. Fact I don't have to use profanity to say my point is just another bonus. Your opinion is fine, but profanity does not make it any more valid.
@@xray111xxx. That guy or woman follows my every comments on motor channels. A total weirdo.
"bullshit"
is a profanity???Hahahaha!!!!@@xray111xxx
Well, at least it's not hideous looking ;)
is oil change still necessary if we charge our phev every night?
Not sure of the service cycle of this model but our Volt keeps track of oil life. Typically it’s around 2 years for us.
if engine fires up often and for long( lets say a road tip)Change oil as you would do on a regular car
Great! This car looks very good! Maybe not the price tag...($46+K) so whatever you do, buying it won't save a penny on your fuel economy. If you can pay it in cash, then it's a bit better, if you loan the money to buy it, you're screwed.
Right!
finally someone made a car 😄
PHEVs won't run on ev battery alone when the defrosters are required or in cool temperatures.. Toyotas, that means 14F and Mitsubushi 5F. And the engines also have to run in summer frequently to recharge the 12v battery running the ac. The 'getting by indefinitely' in ev mode and home charging is not practicaal for most people. But you tube is mostly for entertainmnent so enjoy this.
For those who are marketing sheep. 1 tank of fuel per year is bad for the fueling system as fuel goes bad with time, gets water in in, loses octane/cetane numbers and can become reason for faster fueling system wear. Petrol should be replaced every 3 months at least if you want to maintain your vehicle. Heck just use the phev as a hybrid on the highway or any road where you drive above 70.
Can we drive the phev without charging or flat battery?
Yes, one the battery is depleted, as long as you have gas in the tank, you're good to go.
My last Mitsubishi over heated and went to the junkyard 😮
I think this is one of the best looking SUVs we need Mitsubishi to bring back the Endeavor
Some of the things you said in the "Powertrain" section ( 2:23 TO 2:50 ) are just WRONG. 1. It does not have two motors up front. It has one motor and one engine. When you are talking about hybrid and/or electric vehicles you cannot continue to refer to internal combustion ENGINES as "motors". 2. "One turns the wheels and the other is mostly for power recouperation, act as a continuously variable automatic transmission." The engine does act like a generator, to charge the battery, but at speeds above 45 mph, or 70 km/h, it also connects directly to the front axle to drive the front wheels. It is like being in top gear in any manual or conventional auto gearbox. There is nothing in this vehicle which is anything like, or ACTS anything like a CVT.
If only the bottom grille chrome “wing” veered in to outline the bottom of the grille instead of out into the bumper.
Tom, The electric range for commuting is laudable but the 26 mpg average in hybrid mode is lamentable. 🤨
And I am happy that I will buy a fully loaded 2023 Outlander Plug In Hybrid.
Which is why I pointed it out
@@DrivenCarReviews Yes Tom, you politely pointed it out and I underlined it in the COMMENTS section for the benefit of the eco-conscious buyer.
Actually, I believe that the 26mpg is strictly in for ICE mode usage for this car. The hybrid mode is much better (they claim 67 mpge in the promo materials), with the typical factors all coming into play - AC usage, driving style, uphill/downhill, temperature, etc. On a recent long road trip (4,000km), I got 5.6 litres/100 km, which is about 42 mpg, with normal driving on slightly hilly terrain and with A/C on. Otherwise, in the city I can go for months without buying any gas as I drive 5 to 30 km only on most days. With no gas being used, the meter would show 0.2l/100km, which is crazy good from a petrol perspective. The ICE would only come on during rare heavy acceleration when ICE and electric motors come into play.
@@ed_from_Canada If the number was higher, Mitsubishi would surely appeal the EPA rating.
Mitsubishi has left Europe unfortunately ! I like their cars and I had a Mitsubishi Sigma from 1992 once. Nice reliable car it was .
If your only gonna use a gallon a year, why bother with Hybrid? Sounds like you would be better off with a BEV as then you're not lugging around an engine you don't need along with supporting parts like exhaust, transmission and other supporting ICE parts.
Actually, the big battery in an EV weighs more than the ICE so let's address that. Different people need different technologies. Again, this is why PHEVs work for some- 1:05
A couple decades late, but better late than never!
It sure slashes my bank account.
Concept is the best one for the average person..that would be me.
7:48 😂😂🎉🎉😇
Chademo because in Japan, Asia and Australia, chademo is the majority plug type.
I know.. the could have swapped it to US type in US
While i personally like the convenience of an all eletric vehicle, i personally think auto manufacturers should be canceling most EV production for more PHEV production.
You can make ~6PHEVs with the same ammount of batteries used by a vehicle like the Tesla model S P100D, or about 20 with the Hummer EV's battery, the fact that 95% of people, will drive a PHEV 95% of the time as if it were an EV, means those batteries are being used more effectively to save people money, and transition away from fossil fuels.
Even if you continue to use coal that is vastly more green as a higher percentage of the energy is turned into power at up to 80% but more realisitcally 60-70%, where as a gas engine can only use between 18 and 25%(experimental engines have been able to use 50% but those are currently sub 10HP and cost millions of dollars, conversely, a 2 or more stage phase-change steam turbine system that uses 2 or more different working fluids can be used to reclaim close to 90% of the heat energy from fuels)
A Mitsubishi that doesn’t look like a garbage can on the inside? Impossible