Thanks for the review! -- I bought my 2023 Outlander PHEV (SEL Premium) 10 weeks ago - local dealer (Columbus, Ohio - USA) had 7 Outlander PHEVs on the lot. I got mine for $1,200 UNDER MSRP and the dealer gave me $31,500 for my 2018 Acura TLX -- I paid $18,000 plus tax for the Outlander. I have driven 2150 miles - have used 27 gallons of gas total (79 MPGe). I am plugging it in every night for my daily commute and weekend errands. I have taken 2 road trips of 300 miles round trip each; got 37 “mpg” using “Normal” hybrid mode for these trips. It feels "luxurious" inside -- premium leather, panoramic roof, 360 camera, power folding side mirrors, heated steering wheel, heated front AND rear seats, hands-free tailgate, head up display, Bose speakers AND massaging front seats! If I take a longer drive, I will have no "range anxiety." Plus, the Outlander has a 10-YEAR WARRANTY. ONE BIG NOTE: the owner's manual clearly states that the 3rd row is ONLY for people under 5' 3." I do not need a 3rd row, so I "tri-fold" it. This opens up a HUGE, DEEP storage well. And, I can stack duffel bag items on the folded 3rd row! The RAV4 Prime may have better overall mpg, but the 18-month wait and $12,000 "dealer adjustment" are outrageous. One local dealer wanted $65k for loaded Prime with MSRP of $52k. I did not consider Kia or Hyundai brands -- "Kia boys" have stolen 3,000 of them in my area (and assaulted drivers in the process). This is a real issue. Lastly, my home solar panels will be installed in 2 weeks. I got a level 2 charger in my garage 3 weeks ago. The Outlander PHEV is the PERFECT choice for me in 2023. Final note: 2 local dealers now have 20 Outlander PHEVs on their lots with reduced financing deals and added discounts off MSRP. Availability, luxury, value and price -- a great vehicle to "step into" electrification!
@@денисбаженов-щ1б Google it -- thousands of Kia & Hyundai car thefts per year in every major U.S. City -- many by violent gang members. Multiple cities have filed lawsuits against Kia and Hyundai for a major design flaw. I would not buy a Kia or Hyundai -- even if it is not "car-jacked" -- many are being stolen in broad daylight in parking lots.
The non-PHEV has a better 3rd row, and can seat tall people, especially if you pull the recline tab and recline it further than the default setting for more headroom. Unfortunately there's less vertical space in the PHEV and the headrests are narrow/hard and strangely shaped because they have to fold down (no stow room)
Had my 2023 Outlander PHEV for 6 months and I LOVE it.... very comfortable, I have virtually stopped buying gas, and great value. Everything about it is very good!
I love my prime.... so fast... takes everyone off guard.. I had to move and no longer charge often... grateful I got this instead of a tesla or other pure plug in
Alright. It's been two weeks since I obtained my outlander PHEV. And I am amazed by how efficient this SUV is. I drove it for 41 km yesterday and my EV range only dropped by 24 km. 17 km of rage was regenerated through the Regen system! When my battery is full it always shows at least of 75 km of range!
I too have experienced much better mpg on hybrid only (40) than the epa figures (26). LOVE my Outlander. Never expected to buy one until the dealer (a Kia/Mitsubishi dealer) convinced me it was a better buy than the sportage.
Possibly the best informed review I've seen online so far. Good work. So many "reviewers" don't take the time to understand the systems they are commenting on. One absence I note in most is comment on the S-AWC system and its active yaw control on fast corners. In high speed bends you can feel the car actually DRIVING itself around the corner using the S-AWC system rather than just the front steering input, making it feel much more confident, comfortable, and stable at speed. I have the Australian mid-tier model without the third row. All week it runs on home solar generated electricity, and for longer trips I get about 780km per tank of fuel.
@@kalengkong There are so many ways to drive it, it's a hoot. Cruise around town in EV mode and then put it in Tarmac to bring in the engine to shift in a way a modest mid-sized SUV really shouldn't. Then put the wolf away again and tootle along in effortless silence.
I got the sport model 2 weeks ago here in Auckland. Charging on solar and the power company that offers free power 9pm to 12 each day. Getting over 90km EV range. Absolutely loving the car
We’ve had ours for 4 months and just completed a 3,000 mile road trip in it. We averaged 30 mpg in hybrid mode. It has been consistently getting between 40 to 45 miles in pure EV mode. So far so good after 4 months and 5400 miles! 😊
Next time you have a long road trip with highway driving involved, give this a try: when you are at highway speeds, travel until your battery gets down to like 10-15% and then switch to charge mode until the battery gets to 80%. Switch back to EV driving as priority. Drop down to 10-15%, rinse and repeat. Assuming that you aren't driving like a hoon and just maintaining constant speed without too much acceleration and deceleration, you should see a reasonable increase in efficiency. The reason for this is that typically charging the battery via the engine is very inefficient BUT if you run the engine when it's at it's most efficient (which is during highway driving), you'll get a nice benefit.
To start in EV priority mode, I "force" it. I press start button without pressing brake pedal to be in accessory mode, then I press EV button and finally start the car with my foot on brake pedal. It seems complicated but you can do it very fast like in 1 second and then you are sure the ICE won't kick in. Mine turns on the ICE sometimes but not often and when it does, it turns off after it reaches is temperature (around 60°c)
For those that don't know Toyota stated the hybrid market and Mitsu started the EV market they are both equal and Japanese's technological powerhouses so you wont go wrong in choosing between the two.
RAV4 Prime is hard to get and too pricey. I almost bought a 2023 Outlander PHEV. The Mitsubishi dealers are much friendlier and willing to negotiate. Supply is very available. But the economy and interest rates are crap. So I kept my gas Yukon and bought a nice 2013 Nissan Leaf for $2k. It’s working great. No car payments. 👍🏼
Had the same issue on the lease. They negotiated well, but APR was 6.5% for outstanding credit which is really lame. Still...$7500 off the price plus way above rate for my trade in made it worth it.
I really like this car, had some experience with one lately and it’s the most luxurious Mitsubishi I feel like in at 20 years probably. I think it’s Nissan connection benefits it more than gives it drawbacks because newer Nissan models are pretty nice, and the powertrain in this is all Mitsubishi with very little Nissan involvement. I like the content on this, please do a range test and a fuel economy test!
I'd like to see you take the 3rd row out and show us this process. The overseas models in AU and NZ can be purchased (in base trims) with just two rows, and that's the configuration I'd prefer to buy in the US.
ALEX! first off thank you for your amazing content I watch almost every video even the ones that don’t really apply to me, but please give us more content on this vehicle. We desperately need it. Thank you!
Another workaround for starting in EV mode (that I've read about) is to press the engine start button without stepping on brake pedal, press EV button to enter EV mode, then step on brake pedal and push engine start button. Still would be best if Mitsubishi could just remember the EV mode setting from previous drive.
I was going to say the same thing. That’s works on mine unless it’s very cold out (like -20C). I was driving it all winter without using the engine to heat. You get a notice telling you to leave EV mode if you want to improve heating performance.
I'll give you a free advise that Mitsi sales people doesn't even know. If you were to drive on long journeys, save the battery till you are near you destination. Your fuel economy will be better by up to 40%. This is because the generator (ice will have to work harder when your battery is depleted while you still require power on your journeys for hills, high speed, overtaking etc. While you select SAVE mode and ECO the vehicle will act as economy hybrid and use small efforts to maintain the drive battery that still plenty charged. The EV mode is designed for city driving. But for long travel in SAVE mode, the drive battery act as a support for the generator and share its load. draining the drive battery to low while you still require higher power demand on highway driving , hills etc will just force your ICE to work harder to maintain the drive battery to deliver enough power to the driveline.
This is actually true! We tested this method and got a great MPG of 31 in a 200 km road trip. We switched to SAVE mode when the battery hit almost half full!
Apparently if you are driving at highway speeds, it's best to use that time to charge the battery on long distance trips as the highway speeds would take the ICE into it's most efficient power band. If you charge at low speeds, it's fuel consumption would suffer.
I’m a little confused about the horsepower and torque. I have a 16% grade that I take every day to get home. Is it true that uphills this vehicle will switch to gas only therefore I will have less horsepower and torque per the description on Mitsubishi’s website, when in gas mode, the torque and horsepower is less
I’m a little confused about the horsepower and torque. I have a 16% grade that I take every day to get home. Is it true that uphills this vehicle will switch to gas only therefore I will have less horsepower and torque per the description on Mitsubishi’s website, when in gas mode, the torque and horsepower is less
Quite frankly, I think PHEVs are the future. We do not have the electrical capacity to suddenly go all EV and we don't have enough power generation even planned, to supply the demand that would create. This allows us to use EV mode for our commutes but also gives the flexibility of having a interstate traveler without range anxiety. Plus, I gotta admit that Mitsubishi really did a bang up job with the looks and interior appointments. Also, you can go today and buy this off a lot with zero markups and no supply shortage. Try that with a Prime.
I agree. Smaller battery uses less minerals (lithium, Cobalt, nickel). 95% of commuters in US roundtrip commute is less than 40 miles. PHEVs are adequate for most everyone.
@derek17005 Actually, anyone who needs an EV for a daily commute would be FAR better off, just using a public bus transport, or walking - try that.? Me - I live 47 km away (on a rough hilly, no cell coverage winding secondary highway) so I need an ICE vehicle with 4wd capability as we have some gnarly icy winters here with snow as well sometimes - hence the 4wd ICE work-horse, to do what amounts to at least a 100 km round trip, plus it has to accommodate a wheelchair and my crutches too (BK Amputee I am), before we even bother to add all the fortnightly/ monthly grocery items and any other essentials. Frank (Frankly) never decided that EV's or even PHEV's could sustain themselves in doing over 100 km per daily commute, so Frankly isn't mentioned around here. Plus, we (because of my ongoing medical and other issues) have several 300+ 4hr+ "round-trips" - to our nearest gen hospital, so an EV simply couldn't cut that excessive distance for very long, plus, unless at home where we could recharge (or maybe-if-lucky ? we could access a recharge port at the hospital - although I seriously doubt that) an ev would have us stranded more often than not, miles out of cell range ... So Tom, Dick & Harry, along with Peter, Paul & Mary - all reckon that EV's won't be of any use to anyone in distant "non-serviced" areas around these - or similarly remote places on our planet - anytime in the next thousand years?????
Amazing! I have a very similar commute and I think this vehicle would work perfect for me. I’m also very curious to see how it does on light off roading.
RAV4 PRIME is the gold standard in PHEV right now. Rumor has it that Toyota is working on a PHEV that will have a 90+ mile EV ONLY range. Now that is something I can live with.
Generally a very good report, thanks. One point I've never seen mentioned is the more relaxing drive of the Mitsubishi PHEV due to it's not having a gearbox, auto or manual. Just electrical switching (presumably) for forward or reverse, no variable ratios. By comparison, a Kia PHEV I test drove was noisier and less relaxed due to its CVT box, which the clever design of the Mitsubishi system makes un--necessary. The combination of two motors, active yaw control and no gearbox may be unique, and it certainly handles well for its weight on a twisty back road. I bought mine four years ago, so far no problems, and I'd like to replace with the new model except, to my personal taste, the new design is uglier. Also, at 5 foot eight, standing by the driver's door I wouldn't feel properly dressed without a chauffeur's cap.
If I wanted a 3 row PHEV with off-road capabilities or just AWD I’d consider the Outlander, but if the 3rd row was very important I’d go for the Pacifica PHEV. I wanted the PHEV with the best EV capabilities so I chose the Prime. It’s as efficient as advertised and I only use gas when I go out of town. I think there are more differences in how these PHEV SUV’s function than the ICE EV’s when comparing different manufactures, so it’s worthwhile researching them and figuring out which matches your priorities. If you have plenty of money, Volvo makes the XC 90 Recharge which has a lot of power in hybrid mode, 32 miles of range and 3 rows.
Thanks for the awesome follow up review Alex! I've averaged about 55-65 MPG since July of 2023. Overall have really liked the vehicle, comfort, handling, AWD system and features. Would love to see a head to head with Rav4 Prime for offroad. Issues I've had: Rattle in driver's door, mirrors occasionally don't fold back upon locking (known issue), sometimes cruise control turns off (probably on purpose due to heavy rain), and occasionally volume freezes on infotainment system. Things I would love to change: Get rid of 3rd row, and tighten up the steering feel (steering feels overly light). TBD if I keep this SUV after lease is up.
Hey Alex, not sure if you've done this comparison yet, but 2024 Outlander (non hybrid) vs 2024 Sportage (non hybrid) mid trim levels with leather, which would you buy personally?
I'm a later adopter of new technology. Just bought my first smart TV yesterday. Hopefully my 2013 CRV will last 2 more years which is when I think you'll get better deals on EV's
Really well balanced review and informative to boot. My wife’s workplace has bought the same vehicle for business travel (CDN fed Government) They literally have an online orientation for driving it. For me, I am not sold on EV’s period although a little more open to Hybrids. It is funny how people just ignore the cost of charging but again I am not sold on Hybrid either. If possible, our next car will either be a fuel efficient mid size SUV say VW Tiguan. I wish we could think more broadly and look to a more diverse set of fueling options. Synthetic fuels, Hydrogen, and yes Electric as well. Thinking about all of the environments a car has to work in, it makes more sense to have access to those other fueling systems to meet our functional requirements re Cold Weather, commercial vehicles, aircraft, etc. Funny enough, I have a lot of concern for how these batteries are asselmbed and the incredible amount of resources required to build one. The impact on the environment is horrific and not much so said about that but it is there. The current crop of batteries are also incredibly expensive to replace with a lifespan that would assume you sim0ly keep it to the end of the lease and get rid of it. I prefer to keep a car longer than that and current batteries either crap out or become dramatically less efficient as they age. Oh well lots of downfalls in current state of development so I am likely to stick with my ICE powered car.
Thanks you did actually shown me a trick... for the heating activation deactivation trick... I've had mine for 3 months and did only one full tank. But I had the previous model and find the gas engine is running only half of the time it used to take to heat itself... so I'm still happy about it even if you say it runs for a while. To be honest... my dealership was very bad... they had a bad knowledge of the car.. example: he told me I would have to go in the console to unlock the charging port in order to remove the charge gun... how stupid... unlocking with the key fob does the trick... So I'm super happy about this 2023 model. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
I have owned this car since December and foind out the EV priority is done a little different. Only turn on the vehical to accessory mode without pressing the break. Select EV mode then proceed to press start with your foot on the break. This makes all the difference in the world. The ICE will not come on even in very cold weather or hard acceleration. Granted you will be freezing as the heat pump will not keep up but at least you have an option.
I recently drove the new outlander, (non phev) and was really impressed by the overall driving dynamics and interior quality. HUGE step up from last gen outlander and particularly outlander sport. I would buy it over the rogue 100%. Perhaps the Nissan 3cyl turbo will come soon?
@@TheoPhilpot In Europe, the Rogue equivalent is the Nissan X-Trail and it's a 3cyl vc turbo with hybrid. It's a tad expensive though. The Outlander PHEV is also too expensive to be advantageous cost wise. None of those hybrids or phevs save money because it takes 10+ years before the savings begin.
@@TheoPhilpot The point is that the Outlander PHEV does not save you money even when driven in EV mode the entire time, because the price tag of it is too high compared to gas alternatives. It's great entertainment for sure though.
You don't have to let the battery depletes completely before going to hybrid mode! That's what that save button is for!!! Put it in SAVE mode with battery around 50% and your MPG will bump up SIGNIFICANTLY!
Yeah... those stuck badly ill have to admit... mine are always down... I'm thinking about cutting this all together from the cargo roll thing... or sewing them on the back of the seat!!😂😂 But for real... better velcro would help. I'll stick some more velcro pieces and see if it helps..
I’m still looking for a replacement for my 2021 Rav4 Prime. I think the upcoming CX-70 PHEV might be the one. Hopefully Mazda can work out the kinks on the all-new 8-speed tranny by the time the CX-70 comes out. As far as the Outlander PHEV is concerned, I gave it a very brief look, but quickly decided it wasn’t the one for me. The front end looks horrible from my perspective and will not age well. Also, in hybrid mode, the mpg isn’t that good. Getting 40mpg in hybrid mode in my Prime has made me picky and it seems the upcoming CX-70 PHEV will get close to that figure.
@@danhall3450 three main reasons: 1) Mundane, hard plastic everywhere interior. Fine for a $30K compact SUV, but not for the top of line, rarest Rav4 that is approaching $50K. The 2024 CX-70 is the sweet spot for me when it comes to interior looks and material. 2) Sound insulation is not that good and the 2024 CX-70 is supposed to be superior to the Rav4 when it comes to reducing wind noise inside the cabin while on the highway. 3) Driving dynamics aren’t that good. It’s not supposed to be a “sporty” compact SUV per se, but I expect more in terms of handling capability around corners. The 2024 CX-70, with its all-new RWD bias platform, looks to be what I’m looking for when it comes to driving dynamics.
Nice update, but really surprised Alex doesn’t mention the Escape PHEV when rattling off competitors. It is the most efficient PHEV in the class! Not everyone needs AWD…
He gives the Escape a few seconds in the last couple minutes. Currently Escape PHEVs are even rarer that RAV4 Primes. Just a tiny trickle of 23 Escape PHEVs coming out in the past couple weeks. The 22 Escape PHEVs are long gone. Overall, the Escape PHEV is a really good package if you don't need AWD
try driving in the b5 mode with minimal break usage. use eco mode. if you're going over 45mph then use save or charge depending on the state of charge of the battery, this is to make it use its engine to directly power the wheels which is more efficient at these speeds. the electric driving is best for the city with traffic, so you should have enough battery for the city after going on the highway. this car is programmed to go on battery for long as it can so you need to decide to charge up on the highway if you don't have enough for the city traffic.
Question for Alex: I thought the PHEV used Mitsubishi's 2.4 engine rather than Nissan's 2.5? Or was that only in the last-gen Outlander PHEV? Anyway, the fact that this operates more as a serial hybrid is interesting, and I think that would be my preference. Regardless, I don't see the point of worrying about the gas hybrid mileage if you are in EV mode enough to only need to fill up with gas twice in 2 months. As an owner of a 2018 [non-hybrid] Outlander, I think Mitsu was wise to keep the standard 3rd row, it's a good differentiator for them. And the "tweener" vehicle size is also pretty unique, so again it's a differentiator.
More balanced review, especially with repeated comparisons to the competition. Really liked that. Focus on some of the quirks, limitations, hacks or quick fixes. Learnt a lot more about gas/electric range value interpretation. Good that you highlighted the differences on how much longer this gas engine runs for versus the competition when the EV mode is bypassed. Same for charging capabilities. Any issues with the transmission CVT shift modes? Especially when on non ashphalt or dry conditions?
@@DefineScrib I would, better AWD System S-AWC (SuperAllWheelControl) which is a rear biased system, better handling in my opinion, better ride, a lot quiter with dual pane acoustic glass, better styling in my opinion, I like that it has an emergency third row seating which folds down flat, better digital instrument cluster, MiPilot assist which is like a semi autonomous system, clearer back-up camera, the safest car in it's class, better warranty, no cable gate issue, DC fast charging support, and lastly Mitsubishi is the first one to release an AWD Plug-In Hybrid EV SUV back in 2013 with the first generation Outlander PHEV. The thing that the RAV4 Prime is better is efficiency, range, acceleration, screen/camera rear view mirror and cooled seats but the Outlander has massaging seats.
It's better looking than the Rogue, IMO, and I like that it has a much better warranty. The 3rd row is a joke. Utterly pointless. It would be better to not have it at all for the additional cargo space. I'm not sure that the extra cost of buying the hybrid and the extra long-term repair costs are outweighed by the better fuel economy.
To minimize the engine start you could try using lower regen modes. The gen.4 Outlander PHEV starts the engine if the battery is approximately more than half full and B3 or higher regen mode is used. The gen.3 version did not have this issue.
my commute is just inside of the 60 km range at 48 kms. If I exceed the range later in the day? Still happy to get the bulk of the range covered. Fits perfectly and this one is at that top of the list for the new year's purchase. Thanks for the information.
I don’t know if you got your question answered, but for people who commute 45 miles or less and they have a charging station at work and a charger at home, they practically never have to use gas.
I bought a new Venza 2 years ago and still love it. No one makes a better hybrid system than Toyota. No one. Fuel efficient, seamless operation and bulletproof reliability. While the latest rage is PHEV, I suggest a regular HEV for most people. PHEV units often has a big price difference whereas Toyota only charges about $2000 more for their hybrid option (vs regular gas).
never floor a mitsubishi from a dead stop for fast acceleration.... theres a safety feature that dampens acceleration as it beleive that the sudden accelerate was accidental as well as protecting the transmission. best to select sport/ tiptronic mode then once you press gas pedal it will accelerate rapidly... it will also accelerate rapidly if its been driven hard as it will still be in the mode even after short stop... it basically adapts to your driving style
Great review. Agree with Alex's opinion about the front end styling. IMO, if Mitsu did away with the odd chrome strips that run along each side of the grille down to the headlights, it would look really good.
DONT follow his advice to switch off the engine like he does 13:52 the car is warming up , let it do its job. when is ice is warm and safe will automatically switch off ...
When Light off-roading what are your thoughts about the level of protection of the battery? I'd Hate to have a Hyundai battery experience a couple customers in Canada have had recently.
I wished they had put something like Cosworth Catalytic Generator in this as a range extender instead of a 2.4L 4 cylinder. It could serve the almost same function with less moving parts, less emissions, and far less fuel used.
One of the best things about the Tucson PHEV I have found is the faster charging and the 'sized right' battery. If I have a number of local errands in a day stopping back at home or at a local Level 2 plug, can quickly recharge the 13 kwh battery on a 240 plug (1 hr 45 min roughly from 0-100%). Can also plug in overnight to the 110V plug and that charges in 10-11 hours. Worth noting that the Santa Fe PHEV and Sorento PHEV also take considerably longer to charge on a Level 2. Also worth noting that 95% of trips taken in US are under 31 miles.
I'm curious to know how your opinion would change if you could charge at home and at work. That is the situation I'm in. I have a garage to charge at home and there are 110v plugs at work.
Rav4 prime is a good comparaison, no mark up in canada but it’s a 3 years wait. How does the outlander phev only get a C grade for fuel economy? The jeep wrangler 4xE barely gives you 25 miles.
I agree that Alex's C score seems a bit harsh for the fuel economy rating. Yes, it can't compete with the Toyota and Hyundai Hybrids for the highway mpg but in reality the excellent electric range (and superior electric performance) means for typical city driving, the Outlander PHEV is easily a match for the Toyota on fuel costs (we have done over 3200 km on one tank) and probably better than the Hyundai PHEV's (smaller battery). His rating probably has more to do with his use case, which is a pretty long commute (beyond the battery range).
I like your review of the Outlander - very informative. But for that stupid 3rd-row, I'd be a potential buyer - perhaps in a later year they'd take your suggestion & make it an option. But can you share anything about the life of CHAdeMO charging - will it be around in the coming years? I've read that it's not favored in the industry. If true, then that's another design mistake. Thanks for your time.
seems awfully complicated to keep the engine off and get better fuel economy... why is it so difficult for engineers to understand that the average joe just wants to turn it on and go?! we just want the best fuel economy the vehicle can offer, we don't want to learn about the thresholds and limitations to keep the darn thing in EV mode...
Looks a lot like a Subaru but larger...? any connection to Subaru? I know Mitsubishi is a huge company, they make large ships and a lot more. I like the Mitsubishi Outlander, just have to compare price and reliability to other brands in the same group. thanks for the video.
Can you still get a Hybrid not Plug in? Is great to have a plug-in but thats mostly if you own your house Im deft looking for a 3rd road seat but living in NYC looking for the best gas mileage. Great video
there's the Hyundai/kia and the CRV hybrid in this class. the main reason to opt for a non-PHEV hybrid is upfront cost. if that's not an issue I'd recommend a PHEV. lived in Queens for many years with a honda hybird and kia phev, didn't get to plug charge much, but it's a really nice option to have the ability to do full EV when in the suburbs etc.
I was waiting for a comment about the camera system because that will be the first thing I check out when considering this model. We bought the 2018 PHEV and loved it so much that we also bought the 2020 model PHEV GT with the upgraded techno package including more cameras etc. The 2018 is the base model and has an excellent backup camera however the upgraded 2020 model camera has the birds eye view display where you can’t turn it off so therefore the backup display is only half the size of screen which isn’t very large anyway plus the resolution is about like a 1965 color TV. It’s actually so dark and murky at times that it’s not really usable. I’ve complained to the service desk each time I go in for an oil change and they say it’s working normally and they agree it’s odd that you can’t adjust the resolution or turn off the birds eye view. We bought both cars back when they were discounting them from 7-10,000 off MSRP plus they qualified for a federal tax credit of 5800 each so I was happy about that and as the majority of our trips are
The camera system is absolutely perfect... clear image, not dark at all... only down side is that it shows the Grey model on the screen😂😂 I have a blue model!!! Like... come on... 😅😅 Rear warning system is picking cars even before you can see them, so trust it and you'll be safe!!! Same with the side lane warnings... very good system
Did I mishear Alex, or did he say that you can not switch to EV mode while driving? I heard him explain that he had to pull over, shut off the car, and restart it in EV mode.
That’s just if you accidentally start the ending by pressing too hard on the accelerator pedal. You have to either wait for the engine to completely warm up and then it will go back to EV mode, or you have to turn the car off and then on again.
Thanks for a detailed review. I seriously considered this vehicle but now I'll pass. Too complicated to operate and terrible gas mileage in hybrid mode
Anyone who owns one of these Outlanders have any issues with how the HVAC system works? I have a 22 Rogue and I believe the Outlander borrows the HVAC system from the Rogue (I hope not), as I have had issues from day one with having the system do what I want it to do. It'sl like it has a mind of its own until I've driven maybe 10 mins and it starts doing what I want it to.
Great review but you are using the EV Range indicated by Mitsubishi which under rated. Real life range is what should be used. Many are reporting (50 to 55 miles per charge), in warmer climates
There is simply no way it will get 50-55 MPG in hybrid mode. The display shows high MPGs but its treating the electricity as if it was ""free" so sure you drove 50 miles on one gallon, but the gallon only got you 26 of those miles and the rest came from the battery. We talk real world range in this video as well, it's pretty spot on with Mitsubishi's estimate. We get 36-40 miles of EV range depending on terrain.
the biggest issue with buying a mitsubitshi is that there are very few of their dealerships around. that means getting any dealership level services will be a hassle.
This is crucial. If your local dealership is incompetent and refuses to performs some warranty repairs then you re gonna loose an insane amount of time and energy arguing or traveling to the next one..
I won't run into this issue as one is less than a mile from home and one less than half a mile from work!!!😂 both should be a good. But where I've bought it... 15-20 miles from home... that is another story... they are fully and completely incompetent... that's the least I can say...
At this point, with how bad most US dealers are, it's a moot point. I've dealt with Ford dealerships (expensive AND incompetent) toyota dealerships (beyond slow) and subaru dealerships (shady, liars, but competent and cheap.) All dealerships suck, as long as you can get your car back with the issue you wanted solved, consider that a win in 2023. Forget fair pricing or customer service, it just doesn't happen.
The Ford Escape has some oddities to it's EV only mode as well. It will stay in it's last setting through shutting off the car, but if it's below 33F, it starts the gas engine. Unless you go into accessory mode first, reselect EV only, then it keeps the engine off down to 5F. I've also seen it give the message in accessory mode (so "engine off") saying it's started the engine for system performance... very odd. I'll give props to Tesla for their updates, I don't see ford doing any unless it's a legal liability to them.
Good review as usual. Not certain I’m sold on PHEV concept. Perhaps I could live with this with a 16 hour full charge time, but I think car manufacturers should really consider faster charging at 120 V. Otherwise, one would have to spend $1500 to $2000 to run a 240 V circuit in the garage (assuming one has such). I think the drive train offered by EV’s is superior to ICE but the charging infrastructure is still lagging. Also, towing tends to yield worst efficiency than ICE (looking at overall reduction in range).
then fastest you can charge off a standard US outlet is going to be around 1800w since the charger is only going to pull into 15 amps. running a 240v circuit can cost up to 2000 but depending on how far the panel is from your parking spot, it should be less. quotes I got were quite variable.
@@yetivanmarshall1473 PHEV savings depend on how much you drive and cost of gas in your state. In many cases it's still better to get the non-PHEV Outlander, you save $10k and get equivalent trim, and a little more cabin space and comfier 3rd row.
Not to mention that all hybrid and EV batteries don't last half as long as regular gasoline engines either. Thats the part nobody wants to talk about. And recycling facilities for these batteries are virtually no existant as well, making it extremely damaging to the earth overall, even more so than a gasoline engine.
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Sorry for the typo in the 0-60 time. It's 6.8, not 4.3. 4.3 would be fantastic, this one is more "solid" than "fantastic."
Outlander PHEV Plaid!
now kids on the internet will spread the myth of the 4 second Outlander for years to come XD
What are the correct stats for the rest of the board: Braking, Handling, Ride, Cabin Noise, Fuel Economy? Thank you keep up the great reviews!
That's much more in line with what I achieved in a 0 to 100km/h in a rainy day, 7.47s.
As soon as I see 0-60 4.3 sec, Wow, let's go Mitsubishi .. leap jump .
Thanks for the review! -- I bought my 2023 Outlander PHEV (SEL Premium) 10 weeks ago - local dealer (Columbus, Ohio - USA) had 7 Outlander PHEVs on the lot. I got mine for $1,200 UNDER MSRP and the dealer gave me $31,500 for my 2018 Acura TLX -- I paid $18,000 plus tax for the Outlander. I have driven 2150 miles - have used 27 gallons of gas total (79 MPGe). I am plugging it in every night for my daily commute and weekend errands. I have taken 2 road trips of 300 miles round trip each; got 37 “mpg” using “Normal” hybrid mode for these trips. It feels "luxurious" inside -- premium leather, panoramic roof, 360 camera, power folding side mirrors, heated steering wheel, heated front AND rear seats, hands-free tailgate, head up display, Bose speakers AND massaging front seats! If I take a longer drive, I will have no "range anxiety." Plus, the Outlander has a 10-YEAR WARRANTY. ONE BIG NOTE: the owner's manual clearly states that the 3rd row is ONLY for people under 5' 3." I do not need a 3rd row, so I "tri-fold" it. This opens up a HUGE, DEEP storage well. And, I can stack duffel bag items on the folded 3rd row! The RAV4 Prime may have better overall mpg, but the 18-month wait and $12,000 "dealer adjustment" are outrageous. One local dealer wanted $65k for loaded Prime with MSRP of $52k. I did not consider Kia or Hyundai brands -- "Kia boys" have stolen 3,000 of them in my area (and assaulted drivers in the process). This is a real issue. Lastly, my home solar panels will be installed in 2 weeks. I got a level 2 charger in my garage 3 weeks ago. The Outlander PHEV is the PERFECT choice for me in 2023. Final note: 2 local dealers now have 20 Outlander PHEVs on their lots with reduced financing deals and added discounts off MSRP. Availability, luxury, value and price -- a great vehicle to "step into" electrification!
@@денисбаженов-щ1б Google it -- thousands of Kia & Hyundai car thefts per year in every major U.S. City -- many by violent gang members. Multiple cities have filed lawsuits against Kia and Hyundai for a major design flaw. I would not buy a Kia or Hyundai -- even if it is not "car-jacked" -- many are being stolen in broad daylight in parking lots.
The non-PHEV has a better 3rd row, and can seat tall people, especially if you pull the recline tab and recline it further than the default setting for more headroom. Unfortunately there's less vertical space in the PHEV and the headrests are narrow/hard and strangely shaped because they have to fold down (no stow room)
Awesome
Does it still have the cheap car horn?
I get 36 mpg in my accord coupe
Had my 2023 Outlander PHEV for 6 months and I LOVE it.... very comfortable, I have virtually stopped buying gas, and great value. Everything about it is very good!
What about the ride comfort with those low profile tires and rather large 20 inch wheels?
The Rav4 Prime is still commanding a HUGE markup in my part of the country.
This Outlander seems like a good value in comparison.
I love my prime.... so fast... takes everyone off guard.. I had to move and no longer charge often... grateful I got this instead of a tesla or other pure plug in
also availability is much better than the rav4 prime. Its still hard to find them.
Plus, the PHEV doesn’t use a CVT, it uses a one-speed automatic.
@@faheemabbas3965 toyota also does not use cvt
@@marklion315 The RAV4 Prime uses a CVT while this Outlander uses a Single Speed Trans-Axle Transmission (GKN Multi-Mode E-Transmission).
Alright. It's been two weeks since I obtained my outlander PHEV. And I am amazed by how efficient this SUV is. I drove it for 41 km yesterday and my EV range only dropped by 24 km. 17 km of rage was regenerated through the Regen system! When my battery is full it always shows at least of 75 km of range!
I too have experienced much better mpg on hybrid only (40) than the epa figures (26). LOVE my Outlander. Never expected to buy one until the dealer (a Kia/Mitsubishi dealer) convinced me it was a better buy than the sportage.
Possibly the best informed review I've seen online so far. Good work. So many "reviewers" don't take the time to understand the systems they are commenting on. One absence I note in most is comment on the S-AWC system and its active yaw control on fast corners. In high speed bends you can feel the car actually DRIVING itself around the corner using the S-AWC system rather than just the front steering input, making it feel much more confident, comfortable, and stable at speed.
I have the Australian mid-tier model without the third row. All week it runs on home solar generated electricity, and for longer trips I get about 780km per tank of fuel.
good to know that. I'm in Sydney and mine is coming soon. have put order back in October last year. Cant wait to have it!
@@kalengkong There are so many ways to drive it, it's a hoot. Cruise around town in EV mode and then put it in Tarmac to bring in the engine to shift in a way a modest mid-sized SUV really shouldn't. Then put the wolf away again and tootle along in effortless silence.
I got the sport model 2 weeks ago here in Auckland. Charging on solar and the power company that offers free power 9pm to 12 each day.
Getting over 90km EV range. Absolutely loving the car
We’ve had ours for 4 months and just completed a 3,000 mile road trip in it. We averaged 30 mpg in hybrid mode. It has been consistently getting between 40 to 45 miles in pure EV mode. So far so good after 4 months and 5400 miles! 😊
Next time you have a long road trip with highway driving involved, give this a try: when you are at highway speeds, travel until your battery gets down to like 10-15% and then switch to charge mode until the battery gets to 80%. Switch back to EV driving as priority. Drop down to 10-15%, rinse and repeat. Assuming that you aren't driving like a hoon and just maintaining constant speed without too much acceleration and deceleration, you should see a reasonable increase in efficiency. The reason for this is that typically charging the battery via the engine is very inefficient BUT if you run the engine when it's at it's most efficient (which is during highway driving), you'll get a nice benefit.
@@argent10k thanks for the info
Hows your Outlander holding up after a year? Im contemplating on buying one
We now have 18k miles on our 23 Outlander PHEV with only one minor issue that was repaired under warranty. All is well after almost 22 months with it.
@@ricknolen8545 Rick, what about the ride on those low profile tires with the rather large 20 inch wheels?
To start in EV priority mode, I "force" it. I press start button without pressing brake pedal to be in accessory mode, then I press EV button and finally start the car with my foot on brake pedal. It seems complicated but you can do it very fast like in 1 second and then you are sure the ICE won't kick in. Mine turns on the ICE sometimes but not often and when it does, it turns off after it reaches is temperature (around 60°c)
For those that don't know Toyota stated the hybrid market and Mitsu started the EV market they are both equal and Japanese's technological powerhouses so you wont go wrong in choosing between the two.
RAV4 Prime is hard to get and too pricey. I almost bought a 2023 Outlander PHEV. The Mitsubishi dealers are much friendlier and willing to negotiate. Supply is very available.
But the economy and interest rates are crap. So I kept my gas Yukon and bought a nice 2013 Nissan Leaf for $2k. It’s working great. No car payments. 👍🏼
Had the same issue on the lease. They negotiated well, but APR was 6.5% for outstanding credit which is really lame. Still...$7500 off the price plus way above rate for my trade in made it worth it.
Smart. No Car payments is the way to go.
a leaf for 2k is an amazing deal!
I really like this car, had some experience with one lately and it’s the most luxurious Mitsubishi I feel like in at 20 years probably. I think it’s Nissan connection benefits it more than gives it drawbacks because newer Nissan models are pretty nice, and the powertrain in this is all Mitsubishi with very little Nissan involvement. I like the content on this, please do a range test and a fuel economy test!
It has a Nissan engine and CVT to start with
@@reyperez3424 Incorrect. It has neither.
@@reyperez3424 nope Mitsubishi is first ever came up with SUV PHEV in the market and this is completely Mitsu's own engine and power train.
@@bankperson1366 it does have a CVT if you dont get the phev version
@@cooljool1 true but PHEV is the own engine though since video is about PHEV version :)
Would really love another video update on your ownership and future plans.
I'd like to see you take the 3rd row out and show us this process. The overseas models in AU and NZ can be purchased (in base trims) with just two rows, and that's the configuration I'd prefer to buy in the US.
@Jeff Arnholt I saw someone documenting it on a Facebook group and it's amazing how easy it is, just a few bolts.
ALEX! first off thank you for your amazing content I watch almost every video even the ones that don’t really apply to me, but please give us more content on this vehicle. We desperately need it. Thank you!
Love this content. Look forward to frequent and future updates.
Another workaround for starting in EV mode (that I've read about) is to press the engine start button without stepping on brake pedal, press EV button to enter EV mode, then step on brake pedal and push engine start button. Still would be best if Mitsubishi could just remember the EV mode setting from previous drive.
thanks, if it works that would be great
I was going to say the same thing. That’s works on mine unless it’s very cold out (like -20C). I was driving it all winter without using the engine to heat. You get a notice telling you to leave EV mode if you want to improve heating performance.
Thanks... I'll be trying this next time it's cold... because I had this same issue where it will start on gas even if it's not that cold out
As always you did a great video
About the Rav4 Prime, it only takes about 15.5 kw to fully charge and 2.5 hourv
It's got a smaller battery so if course it's faster.
I'll give you a free advise that Mitsi sales people doesn't even know.
If you were to drive on long journeys, save the battery till you are near you destination. Your fuel economy will be better by up to 40%. This is because the generator (ice will have to work harder when your battery is depleted while you still require power on your journeys for hills, high speed, overtaking etc.
While you select SAVE mode and ECO the vehicle will act as economy hybrid and use small efforts to maintain the drive battery that still plenty charged.
The EV mode is designed for city driving. But for long travel in SAVE mode, the drive battery act as a support for the generator and share its load. draining the drive battery to low while you still require higher power demand on highway driving , hills etc will just force your ICE to work harder to maintain the drive battery to deliver enough power to the driveline.
This is actually true! We tested this method and got a great MPG of 31 in a 200 km road trip. We switched to SAVE mode when the battery hit almost half full!
Apparently if you are driving at highway speeds, it's best to use that time to charge the battery on long distance trips as the highway speeds would take the ICE into it's most efficient power band. If you charge at low speeds, it's fuel consumption would suffer.
I’m a little confused about the horsepower and torque. I have a 16% grade that I take every day to get home. Is it true that uphills this vehicle will switch to gas only therefore I will have less horsepower and torque per the description on Mitsubishi’s website, when in gas mode, the torque and horsepower is less
I’m a little confused about the horsepower and torque. I have a 16% grade that I take every day to get home. Is it true that uphills this vehicle will switch to gas only therefore I will have less horsepower and torque per the description on Mitsubishi’s website, when in gas mode, the torque and horsepower is less
Quite frankly, I think PHEVs are the future. We do not have the electrical capacity to suddenly go all EV and we don't have enough power generation even planned, to supply the demand that would create. This allows us to use EV mode for our commutes but also gives the flexibility of having a interstate traveler without range anxiety. Plus, I gotta admit that Mitsubishi really did a bang up job with the looks and interior appointments.
Also, you can go today and buy this off a lot with zero markups and no supply shortage. Try that with a Prime.
I agree. Smaller battery uses less minerals (lithium, Cobalt, nickel). 95% of commuters in US roundtrip commute is less than 40 miles. PHEVs are adequate for most everyone.
@derek17005
Actually, anyone who needs an EV for a daily commute would be FAR better off, just using a public bus transport, or walking - try that.?
Me - I live 47 km away (on a rough hilly, no cell coverage winding secondary highway) so I need an ICE vehicle with 4wd capability as we have some gnarly icy winters here with snow as well sometimes - hence the 4wd ICE work-horse, to do what amounts to at least a 100 km round trip, plus it has to accommodate a wheelchair and my crutches too (BK Amputee I am), before we even bother to add all the fortnightly/ monthly grocery items and any other essentials.
Frank (Frankly) never decided that EV's or even PHEV's could sustain themselves in doing over 100 km per daily commute, so Frankly isn't mentioned around here.
Plus, we (because of my ongoing medical and other issues) have several 300+ 4hr+ "round-trips" - to our nearest gen hospital, so an EV simply couldn't cut that excessive distance for very long, plus, unless at home where we could recharge (or maybe-if-lucky ? we could access a recharge port at the hospital - although I seriously doubt that) an ev would have us stranded more often than not, miles out of cell range ...
So Tom, Dick & Harry, along with Peter, Paul & Mary - all reckon that EV's won't be of any use to anyone in distant "non-serviced" areas around these - or similarly remote places on our planet - anytime in the next thousand years?????
When the hybrid battery dies and has zero parts availability in under 10 years you won't be thinking that this is the future.
So incorrect@@domenik8339
I bet the horse and buggy lovers said that about the first automobile internal combustion engine in 1885 too.
The 0-60 time of 4.3 seconds is in error. It is actually 2.7 seconds.
🤣
Km/h?
Oh i thought it was 1.99
No one buys this for racing!
@@MrMannyhw we still want accurate info haha
Amazing! I have a very similar commute and I think this vehicle would work perfect for me. I’m also very curious to see how it does on light off roading.
RAV4 PRIME is the gold standard in PHEV right now. Rumor has it that Toyota is working on a PHEV that will have a 90+ mile EV ONLY range. Now that is something I can live with.
Generally a very good report, thanks. One point I've never seen mentioned is the more relaxing drive of the Mitsubishi PHEV due to it's not having a gearbox, auto or manual. Just electrical switching (presumably) for forward or reverse, no variable ratios. By comparison, a Kia PHEV I test drove was noisier and less relaxed due to its CVT box, which the clever design of the Mitsubishi system makes un--necessary. The combination of two motors, active yaw control and no gearbox may be unique, and it certainly handles well for its weight on a twisty back road.
I bought mine four years ago, so far no problems, and I'd like to replace with the new model except, to my personal taste, the new design is uglier. Also, at 5 foot eight, standing by the driver's door I wouldn't feel properly dressed without a chauffeur's cap.
If I wanted a 3 row PHEV with off-road capabilities or just AWD I’d consider the Outlander, but if the 3rd row was very important I’d go for the Pacifica PHEV. I wanted the PHEV with the best EV capabilities so I chose the Prime. It’s as efficient as advertised and I only use gas when I go out of town. I think there are more differences in how these PHEV SUV’s function than the ICE EV’s when comparing different manufactures, so it’s worthwhile researching them and figuring out which matches your priorities. If you have plenty of money, Volvo makes the XC 90 Recharge which has a lot of power in hybrid mode, 32 miles of range and 3 rows.
Thanks for the awesome follow up review Alex! I've averaged about 55-65 MPG since July of 2023. Overall have really liked the vehicle, comfort, handling, AWD system and features. Would love to see a head to head with Rav4 Prime for offroad. Issues I've had: Rattle in driver's door, mirrors occasionally don't fold back upon locking (known issue), sometimes cruise control turns off (probably on purpose due to heavy rain), and occasionally volume freezes on infotainment system. Things I would love to change: Get rid of 3rd row, and tighten up the steering feel (steering feels overly light). TBD if I keep this SUV after lease is up.
Alex the 6.6 kw charger on the 2023 RAV4 Primes is standard. Both the SE, and XSE have it now.
I have it for 3 months now drove 4000 km amd average 1.5L/100km.
Thanks for the review. Mine arrives in a month. Quite excited.
Hey Alex, not sure if you've done this comparison yet, but 2024 Outlander (non hybrid) vs 2024 Sportage (non hybrid) mid trim levels with leather, which would you buy personally?
I'm a later adopter of new technology. Just bought my first smart TV yesterday. Hopefully my 2013 CRV will last 2 more years which is when I think you'll get better deals on EV's
Very nice review. Pls do a full comparison with cx-90 and explain cvt system
No need to do a comparison with cx-90. cx-90 is class above. This is a poor mans ugly cheap tincan.
Cx90 has jerky transmission. Ruins the whole car for the price it costs. If you want spend more, Volvo Xc90 is better bet.
Cool car, but I wish Mitsubishi would make a real off road vehicle, like they used to!
Look how good the 4Runner sells. A new Montero would probably do well.
Actually Outlander PHEV Ralliart is coming, very soon. Can't wait to see the test of those.
@@Jaykoolzboy I can’t tell if you’re joking. It will probably be more black plastic cladding, some red accents, and all-weather floor mats
they sell the montero sport in Asia. Unfortunately that car isn't federalized for the US
They do. They just don't sell them in the US.
10:11 - No, not a skyscraper. That's how pedals look, Alex :D
Really well balanced review and informative to boot. My wife’s workplace has bought the same vehicle for business travel (CDN fed Government) They literally have an online orientation for driving it. For me, I am not sold on EV’s period although a little more open to Hybrids. It is funny how people just ignore the cost of charging but again I am not sold on Hybrid either.
If possible, our next car will either be a fuel efficient mid size SUV say VW Tiguan. I wish we could think more broadly and look to a more diverse set of fueling options. Synthetic fuels, Hydrogen, and yes Electric as well. Thinking about all of the environments a car has to work in, it makes more sense to have access to those other fueling systems to meet our functional requirements re Cold Weather, commercial vehicles, aircraft, etc. Funny enough, I have a lot of concern for how these batteries are asselmbed and the incredible amount of resources required to build one. The impact on the environment is horrific and not much so said about that but it is there.
The current crop of batteries are also incredibly expensive to replace with a lifespan that would assume you sim0ly keep it to the end of the lease and get rid of it. I prefer to keep a car longer than that and current batteries either crap out or become dramatically less efficient as they age. Oh well lots of downfalls in current state of development so I am likely to stick with my ICE powered car.
excellent review ! no other reviewers covered it like this, could you do a mazda cx90 PHEV review as well please?
Thanks you did actually shown me a trick... for the heating activation deactivation trick... I've had mine for 3 months and did only one full tank. But I had the previous model and find the gas engine is running only half of the time it used to take to heat itself... so I'm still happy about it even if you say it runs for a while.
To be honest... my dealership was very bad... they had a bad knowledge of the car.. example: he told me I would have to go in the console to unlock the charging port in order to remove the charge gun... how stupid... unlocking with the key fob does the trick...
So I'm super happy about this 2023 model.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Well they must be totally clueless dealership. Every EV or plugin has that key fob unlock that I know.
I have owned this car since December and foind out the EV priority is done a little different. Only turn on the vehical to accessory mode without pressing the break. Select EV mode then proceed to press start with your foot on the break. This makes all the difference in the world. The ICE will not come on even in very cold weather or hard acceleration. Granted you will be freezing as the heat pump will not keep up but at least you have an option.
I recently drove the new outlander, (non phev) and was really impressed by the overall driving dynamics and interior quality. HUGE step up from last gen outlander and particularly outlander sport. I would buy it over the rogue 100%. Perhaps the Nissan 3cyl turbo will come soon?
Nissan's Rogue has the 3cyl vc turbo. Uses much less fuel than the Outlander PHEV in gas mode, like 20% less easily.
@@Antiorganizer 3cyl plus increased range and quicker charging and the phev outlander would be so much better
@@TheoPhilpot In Europe, the Rogue equivalent is the Nissan X-Trail and it's a 3cyl vc turbo with hybrid.
It's a tad expensive though.
The Outlander PHEV is also too expensive to be advantageous cost wise.
None of those hybrids or phevs save money because it takes 10+ years before the savings begin.
@@Antiorganizer If you religiously plug it in, they are a viable alternative to bz4x or soltera or even model y for much less money.
@@TheoPhilpot The point is that the Outlander PHEV does not save you money even when driven in EV mode the entire time, because the price tag of it is too high compared to gas alternatives.
It's great entertainment for sure though.
You don't have to let the battery depletes completely before going to hybrid mode! That's what that save button is for!!! Put it in SAVE mode with battery around 50% and your MPG will bump up SIGNIFICANTLY!
Tried it because of the forums and it made no difference.
I am in love with the Velcro Flap in the cargo area to hide your things. Gave me a very hardy laugh. 😅
Yeah... those stuck badly ill have to admit... mine are always down... I'm thinking about cutting this all together from the cargo roll thing... or sewing them on the back of the seat!!😂😂
But for real... better velcro would help. I'll stick some more velcro pieces and see if it helps..
I’m still looking for a replacement for my 2021 Rav4 Prime. I think the upcoming CX-70 PHEV might be the one. Hopefully Mazda can work out the kinks on the all-new 8-speed tranny by the time the CX-70 comes out.
As far as the Outlander PHEV is concerned, I gave it a very brief look, but quickly decided it wasn’t the one for me. The front end looks horrible from my perspective and will not age well. Also, in hybrid mode, the mpg isn’t that good. Getting 40mpg in hybrid mode in my Prime has made me picky and it seems the upcoming CX-70 PHEV will get close to that figure.
Seems like "everyone" wants a RAV4 Prime. So, just curious, why are you looking for a replacement for your RAV4 Prime?
@@danhall3450 three main reasons:
1) Mundane, hard plastic everywhere interior. Fine for a $30K compact SUV, but not for the top of line, rarest Rav4 that is approaching $50K. The 2024 CX-70 is the sweet spot for me when it comes to interior looks and material.
2) Sound insulation is not that good and the 2024 CX-70 is supposed to be superior to the Rav4 when it comes to reducing wind noise inside the cabin while on the highway.
3) Driving dynamics aren’t that good. It’s not supposed to be a “sporty” compact SUV per se, but I expect more in terms of handling capability around corners. The 2024 CX-70, with its all-new RWD bias platform, looks to be what I’m looking for when it comes to driving dynamics.
I get 40mpg in hybrid mode with my outlander. Have had the car for 1200 miles now and am averaging 60mpg combined
Nice update, but really surprised Alex doesn’t mention the Escape PHEV when rattling off competitors. It is the most efficient PHEV in the class! Not everyone needs AWD…
Apples with Apples, Please..........AWD versus AWD.........I'll take this one, please........Paul
He gives the Escape a few seconds in the last couple minutes. Currently Escape PHEVs are even rarer that RAV4 Primes. Just a tiny trickle of 23 Escape PHEVs coming out in the past couple weeks. The 22 Escape PHEVs are long gone. Overall, the Escape PHEV is a really good package if you don't need AWD
I really like my Escape PHEV. I can get up to 48mi of electric range and it's deceptively large inside.
Ford has been late to the electric game. I wouldn't necessarily trust a Ford for this right now.
try driving in the b5 mode with minimal break usage. use eco mode.
if you're going over 45mph then use save or charge depending on the state of charge of the battery, this is to make it use its engine to directly power the wheels which is more efficient at these speeds.
the electric driving is best for the city with traffic, so you should have enough battery for the city after going on the highway.
this car is programmed to go on battery for long as it can so you need to decide to charge up on the highway if you don't have enough for the city traffic.
Question for Alex: I thought the PHEV used Mitsubishi's 2.4 engine rather than Nissan's 2.5? Or was that only in the last-gen Outlander PHEV? Anyway, the fact that this operates more as a serial hybrid is interesting, and I think that would be my preference. Regardless, I don't see the point of worrying about the gas hybrid mileage if you are in EV mode enough to only need to fill up with gas twice in 2 months.
As an owner of a 2018 [non-hybrid] Outlander, I think Mitsu was wise to keep the standard 3rd row, it's a good differentiator for them. And the "tweener" vehicle size is also pretty unique, so again it's a differentiator.
It's the 2.4 mIVEC.
More balanced review, especially with repeated comparisons to the competition. Really liked that. Focus on some of the quirks, limitations, hacks or quick fixes. Learnt a lot more about gas/electric range value interpretation.
Good that you highlighted the differences on how much longer this gas engine runs for versus the competition when the EV mode is bypassed. Same for charging capabilities. Any issues with the transmission CVT shift modes? Especially when on non ashphalt or dry conditions?
I'd take this over the RAV4 Prime.
I wouldn’t
@@DefineScrib I would, better AWD System S-AWC (SuperAllWheelControl) which is a rear biased system, better handling in my opinion, better ride, a lot quiter with dual pane acoustic glass, better styling in my opinion, I like that it has an emergency third row seating which folds down flat, better digital instrument cluster, MiPilot assist which is like a semi autonomous system, clearer back-up camera, the safest car in it's class, better warranty, no cable gate issue, DC fast charging support, and lastly Mitsubishi is the first one to release an AWD Plug-In Hybrid EV SUV back in 2013 with the first generation Outlander PHEV. The thing that the RAV4 Prime is better is efficiency, range, acceleration, screen/camera rear view mirror and cooled seats but the Outlander has massaging seats.
And I forgot better interior.
If you can find one!😃
this thing is ugly as sin
It's better looking than the Rogue, IMO, and I like that it has a much better warranty. The 3rd row is a joke. Utterly pointless. It would be better to not have it at all for the additional cargo space. I'm not sure that the extra cost of buying the hybrid and the extra long-term repair costs are outweighed by the better fuel economy.
Neat, I wish they'd do something similar to the Outlander Sport.
They kind of have. In Europe there's a new ASX available as a PHEV (badge-engineered Renault Captur)
What's an Outlander Sport? You mean an ASX? And yes, Mitsubishi has a smaller cross over PHEV, its call the Eclipse Cross.
@@maverick_akl1824 Not available in every market.
@@mileitman boo, bring it here!
@@godofdun That's not the point. Your original comment was factually incorrect. Mitsubishi does make smaller PHEV.
To minimize the engine start you could try using lower regen modes. The gen.4 Outlander PHEV starts the engine if the battery is approximately more than half full and B3 or higher regen mode is used. The gen.3 version did not have this issue.
my commute is just inside of the 60 km range at 48 kms. If I exceed the range later in the day? Still happy to get the bulk of the range covered. Fits perfectly and this one is at that top of the list for the new year's purchase. Thanks for the information.
0-60 in 4.3 from a 248hp heavy SUV? Couldn’t do this with a 248hp ND Miata that weighs 2300 lbs!
Might have been a typo
@@arhamkhakwani5851 has to be or those are Clydesdales on steroids!
Confused about the low gas efficiency when some say they only filled up once in 6 months? Please explain again.
I don’t know if you got your question answered, but for people who commute 45 miles or less and they have a charging station at work and a charger at home, they practically never have to use gas.
I bought a new Venza 2 years ago and still love it. No one makes a better hybrid system than Toyota. No one. Fuel efficient, seamless operation and bulletproof reliability. While the latest rage is PHEV, I suggest a regular HEV for most people. PHEV units often has a big price difference whereas Toyota only charges about $2000 more for their hybrid option (vs regular gas).
The Mercedes S Class and GLE PHEVs can option a 60 kW CCS fast charger.
Just checking.. everything I saw ( motorweek, Motortrend & Autoblog )is saying its a 2.4L N/A 4 not 2.5? is that a typo or ?
It's the 2.4 miVEC.
How is the reliability? I am considering the RAV4 hybrid (non-prime) but I wouldn't mind the added space of the Outlander.
never floor a mitsubishi from a dead stop for fast acceleration.... theres a safety feature that dampens acceleration as it beleive that the sudden accelerate was accidental as well as protecting the transmission.
best to select sport/ tiptronic mode then once you press gas pedal it will accelerate rapidly... it will also accelerate rapidly if its been driven hard as it will still be in the mode even after short stop... it basically adapts to your driving style
Your edit at minute 4:00/ 4:14 is overlapping we see the same part for about 15 seconds twice
I thought there was a glitch in the matrix.
Great review. Agree with Alex's opinion about the front end styling. IMO, if Mitsu did away with the odd chrome strips that run along each side of the grille down to the headlights, it would look really good.
They sell coverup vinyl stickers to black them out if you'd like. Think I saw em on eBay
@@chronia13Thanks! I found them, and they look better....but a restyle that did away with the weird chrome arcs entirely would be better still.
Most offices limit EV charging to 4 hours, and it’s good etiquette to not hog a charger all day.
ESPECIALLY in a PHEV that has a built-in backup plan!
DONT follow his advice to switch off the engine like he does 13:52 the car is warming up , let it do its job. when is ice is warm and safe will automatically switch off ...
what is the real world mileage on a say 400 mile trip? Once we cross 38 miles, does the mileage drop to 27 or Mitsu hybrid gets better mileage?.
The is an error on the gas engine liters. It is a 2.4L (4B12) Mitsubishi engine.
Saw the 0-60 of 4.3s and for a moment thought about selling my 2023 S4 for a Mitsubishi.... Then you said 6.8s which made more sense
Does it have a camping mode?
the karma revero has a DC Combo and is a plug in hybrid so 3
When is the next video update scheduled?
Hey Alex, I had to do a double take on the 0-60 time for this thing. Holy cow people will be flocking to buy this sleeper.
If it would just be true😂😂😂 he's found the hidden button for sure!!!
I am happy with my outlander.
What about the ride quality.. with those low profile tires and those large 20 inch wheels? I've read reviews that say the ride is horrible.
Let the diamods develop, when it is good enough, surprise me like the 5th gen Lancer evo used to...Alex is fine man...a NYC fans.. here
When Light off-roading what are your thoughts about the level of protection of the battery? I'd Hate to have a Hyundai battery experience a couple customers in Canada have had recently.
I wished they had put something like Cosworth Catalytic Generator in this as a range extender instead of a 2.4L 4 cylinder. It could serve the almost same function with less moving parts, less emissions, and far less fuel used.
Hey guys, I live in Canada and saw a lot of complaints about the heat taking a lot of time to warm up in winter. Did you guys have the same issue?
Thanks for the review. I just got PHEV 2023 VRX recently. Do you experience any rubber burning smell when you are in charge mode?
One of the best things about the Tucson PHEV I have found is the faster charging and the 'sized right' battery. If I have a number of local errands in a day stopping back at home or at a local Level 2 plug, can quickly recharge the 13 kwh battery on a 240 plug (1 hr 45 min roughly from 0-100%). Can also plug in overnight to the 110V plug and that charges in 10-11 hours. Worth noting that the Santa Fe PHEV and Sorento PHEV also take considerably longer to charge on a Level 2. Also worth noting that 95% of trips taken in US are under 31 miles.
I'm curious to know how your opinion would change if you could charge at home and at work. That is the situation I'm in. I have a garage to charge at home and there are 110v plugs at work.
Has anyone found a Tesla adapter for Chaedemo or CCS to Chademo? Might be good to have one on have in case.
Wish i could get a spare tire instead of the 3rd row.. either way, leaning towards getting one of these.
Rav4 prime is a good comparaison, no mark up in canada but it’s a 3 years wait. How does the outlander phev only get a C grade for fuel economy? The jeep wrangler 4xE barely gives you 25 miles.
I agree that Alex's C score seems a bit harsh for the fuel economy rating. Yes, it can't compete with the Toyota and Hyundai Hybrids for the highway mpg but in reality the excellent electric range (and superior electric performance) means for typical city driving, the Outlander PHEV is easily a match for the Toyota on fuel costs (we have done over 3200 km on one tank) and probably better than the Hyundai PHEV's (smaller battery). His rating probably has more to do with his use case, which is a pretty long commute (beyond the battery range).
I like your review of the Outlander - very informative. But for that stupid 3rd-row, I'd be a potential buyer - perhaps in a later year they'd take your suggestion & make it an option. But can you share anything about the life of CHAdeMO charging - will it be around in the coming years? I've read that it's not favored in the industry. If true, then that's another design mistake. Thanks for your time.
What car lets you keep Auto Brake Hold on besides EV's? My X3 does not, maybe cause it is older, but best options ever!
Most Hyundais and Kias do.
Even 2014 X5 had that option lol
@@danguelph2676 to keep it on everytime you drive?
seems awfully complicated to keep the engine off and get better fuel economy... why is it so difficult for engineers to understand that the average joe just wants to turn it on and go?! we just want the best fuel economy the vehicle can offer, we don't want to learn about the thresholds and limitations to keep the darn thing in EV mode...
Transmission in this similar to prius? Single speed?or cvt?
Looks a lot like a Subaru but larger...? any connection to Subaru? I know Mitsubishi is a huge company, they make large ships and a lot more. I like the Mitsubishi Outlander, just have to compare price and reliability to other brands in the same group. thanks for the video.
Can you still get a Hybrid not Plug in?
Is great to have a plug-in but thats mostly if you own your house
Im deft looking for a 3rd road seat but living in NYC looking for the best gas mileage.
Great video
there's the Hyundai/kia and the CRV hybrid in this class. the main reason to opt for a non-PHEV hybrid is upfront cost. if that's not an issue I'd recommend a PHEV. lived in Queens for many years with a honda hybird and kia phev, didn't get to plug charge much, but it's a really nice option to have the ability to do full EV when in the suburbs etc.
I was waiting for a comment about the camera system because that will be the first thing I check out when considering this model. We bought the 2018 PHEV and loved it so much that we also bought the 2020 model PHEV GT with the upgraded techno package including more cameras etc. The 2018 is the base
model and has an excellent backup camera however the upgraded 2020 model camera has the birds eye view display where you can’t turn it off so therefore the backup display is only half the size of screen which isn’t very large anyway plus the resolution is about like a 1965 color TV. It’s actually so dark and murky at times that it’s not really usable. I’ve complained to the service desk each time I go in for an oil change and they say it’s working normally and they agree it’s odd that you can’t adjust the resolution or turn off the birds eye view. We bought both cars back when they were discounting them from 7-10,000 off MSRP plus they qualified for a federal tax credit of 5800 each so I was happy about that and as the majority of our trips are
The camera system is absolutely perfect... clear image, not dark at all... only down side is that it shows the Grey model on the screen😂😂 I have a blue model!!! Like... come on... 😅😅
Rear warning system is picking cars even before you can see them, so trust it and you'll be safe!!! Same with the side lane warnings... very good system
Did I mishear Alex, or did he say that you can not switch to EV mode while driving? I heard him explain that he had to pull over, shut off the car, and restart it in EV mode.
That’s just if you accidentally start the ending by pressing too hard on the accelerator pedal. You have to either wait for the engine to completely warm up and then it will go back to EV mode, or you have to turn the car off and then on again.
Why do you press the P button before turning the car off? The car does it automatically when you turn it off.
What is the real 0-60? Obviously 4.3 is a typo.
18:21 0-60 in 6.8 seconds.
It's actually 2.7 seconds to 60.
Realistically? Probably around 6 - 6.5 seconds so 6.3 seems reasonable.
@@povertyspec9651 its 1.7 secs to 60
@@bigdavedayday1581it’s actually -2.7 seconds. It’s so fast, time goes backwards.
Does anyone know if this has an automatic shut off feature if the car is left on for too long?
Thanks for a detailed review. I seriously considered this vehicle but now I'll pass. Too complicated to operate and terrible gas mileage in hybrid mode
Anyone who owns one of these Outlanders have any issues with how the HVAC system works? I have a 22 Rogue and I believe the Outlander borrows the HVAC system from the Rogue (I hope not), as I have had issues from day one with having the system do what I want it to do. It'sl like it has a mind of its own until I've driven maybe 10 mins and it starts doing what I want it to.
Great review but you are using the EV Range indicated by Mitsubishi which under rated.
Real life range is what should be used.
Many are reporting (50 to 55 miles per charge), in warmer climates
There is simply no way it will get 50-55 MPG in hybrid mode. The display shows high MPGs but its treating the electricity as if it was ""free" so sure you drove 50 miles on one gallon, but the gallon only got you 26 of those miles and the rest came from the battery. We talk real world range in this video as well, it's pretty spot on with Mitsubishi's estimate. We get 36-40 miles of EV range depending on terrain.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Sorry, I meant 50 to 55 miles per charge on EV only.
I did correct my comment.
I love you reviews.
Does the charge ports door , have the ability to be locked, to prevent someone else from accessing it ?
Yes if the car is locked the charge port door won’t open. And if the plug is in the car you can not take it out unless you unlock it
@@Matthew-rn3ds That’s good 👍🏻, people also like to unplug the cars while they are charging. Thanks for the info.
Yes it locks. Oddly enough I wish it didn't because sometimes I don't have the key with me and I want to plug it in.
the biggest issue with buying a mitsubitshi is that there are very few of their dealerships around. that means getting any dealership level services will be a hassle.
This is crucial. If your local dealership is incompetent and refuses to performs some warranty repairs then you re gonna loose an insane amount of time and energy arguing or traveling to the next one..
I won't run into this issue as one is less than a mile from home and one less than half a mile from work!!!😂 both should be a good. But where I've bought it... 15-20 miles from home... that is another story... they are fully and completely incompetent... that's the least I can say...
Even worse, the three dealers in my region are owned by the same entity. Try price shopping that!
At this point, with how bad most US dealers are, it's a moot point. I've dealt with Ford dealerships (expensive AND incompetent) toyota dealerships (beyond slow) and subaru dealerships (shady, liars, but competent and cheap.) All dealerships suck, as long as you can get your car back with the issue you wanted solved, consider that a win in 2023. Forget fair pricing or customer service, it just doesn't happen.
The Ford Escape has some oddities to it's EV only mode as well. It will stay in it's last setting through shutting off the car, but if it's below 33F, it starts the gas engine. Unless you go into accessory mode first, reselect EV only, then it keeps the engine off down to 5F. I've also seen it give the message in accessory mode (so "engine off") saying it's started the engine for system performance... very odd. I'll give props to Tesla for their updates, I don't see ford doing any unless it's a legal liability to them.
We appreciate hearing your experience with the Escape PHEV, thank you! -Travis
4.3 to 60? I’m down 😂😂
He did test the Stelvio Quadrifoglio 4 weeks ago. Maybe that experience is permanently ingrained. Quadrifoglio ........ 🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
faster than evo? haha
Good review as usual. Not certain I’m sold on PHEV concept. Perhaps I could live with this with a 16 hour full charge time, but I think car manufacturers should really consider faster charging at 120 V. Otherwise, one would have to spend $1500 to $2000 to run a 240 V circuit in the garage (assuming one has such). I think the drive train offered by EV’s is superior to ICE but the charging infrastructure is still lagging. Also, towing tends to yield worst efficiency than ICE (looking at overall reduction in range).
But in the long run, think how much you'd be saving!🤔
120v can not charge faster because physics.
then fastest you can charge off a standard US outlet is going to be around 1800w since the charger is only going to pull into 15 amps. running a 240v circuit can cost up to 2000 but depending on how far the panel is from your parking spot, it should be less. quotes I got were quite variable.
@@yetivanmarshall1473 PHEV savings depend on how much you drive and cost of gas in your state. In many cases it's still better to get the non-PHEV Outlander, you save $10k and get equivalent trim, and a little more cabin space and comfier 3rd row.
Not to mention that all hybrid and EV batteries don't last half as long as regular gasoline engines either. Thats the part nobody wants to talk about. And recycling facilities for these batteries are virtually no existant as well, making it extremely damaging to the earth overall, even more so than a gasoline engine.