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The Magical Flashback Triple Delay: DISCONTINUED?!?
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- Looks like the TC Electronic Flashback Triple Delay may be discontinued! Join me as I lament its possible downfall and demo some of its magical sounds.
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Video Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
1:09 - Triple Delay Overview
1:46 - Patch Delay 1
2:53 - Patch Delay 2
3:57 - Patch Delay 3
4:33 - Combine the 3 Delays!
6:24 - Volume Swells!
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It has three separate delay lines. It has three separate delay lines. It has three separate delay lines.
Separate delay lines. Delay lines. Lines.
ines. ines. ines.
@@everennui1 es. es. es.
The rhythm part from 5:52 is simply brilliant. Completely in the tradition of David Gilmour. I love your sound.
I was thinking of selling mine, because it's so large, but I have 2nd thoughts. I will be keeping it. Thanks! UPDATE: i just plugged it in, played, and lost myself in it. Yep. A keeper.
how do you deal with the tap tempo? I've been having issues since I got it. It appears to only work for individual delay toggle but not for the rest of the delays
@@rickyricardo2006 it applyes only to currently active delays
@@ivanvranic7860 yeah.. In my opinion it should adjust the tempo whether engage or disengage to any delay
@@rickyricardo2006 yes. In that case it would be a perfect unit. It can be done actually if you buy a seperate midi clock pedal switch. But they are expensive
@@ivanvranic7860 I use a Disaster Area Designs micro.clock pedal on my board. It sends tap-tempo to my BOSS SY-1 Synthesizer (for the arpeggiator patches), MIDI to my TC Flashback 2 x4 (via a TRS-DIN MIDI adapter cable), and MIDI to my iOS device via USB. All at the same time, and it cost £99 in the UK ($129.99 US). Worth every penny.
You convinced me to get this pedal a couple of years ago!!! Love it!!! Thank you Bill!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Bill! Watched this video a few times and was inspired... so I went and bought a used Tripple Delay. Gonna try these settings, also going to try and copy Andy Timmons delay sound with it. Thanks again for your great sounds!
Started watching your channel when i was looking for a replacement for my broken DL4, and then i just had to get the FTD! I love this pedal!
Excellent! Still loving and using mine!
Cool use of delay man! Nice to hear something creative but musical.
Just bought one of these used locally for 160 usd. Best gear purchase I've made in a long time!
Thank you as ever for your wonderful insight. I'll be buying this 3 times before it goes away ❤
Sometimes I feel like this guy is staring into my soul.
Hopefully, there'll be a new version coming out as the Flashback Triple Delay is unique. I agree with your comment about buying gear Bill - I went to buy an Alter Ego and found it had been discontinued. Second-hand prices are silly.
T2 reverb is also out I think. Thank god I bought the Triple delay, Alter Ego X4 and T2. Imo one of TC's best pedals.
Thanks Bill. Purchased
If they would also re-release the Alter Ego 2/X4, it would make a lot of people happy. I'm glad I got one when I did.
Me too
I have one on order but here's the crazy part I have owned two and traded them in twice to up my delay game... Timeline, H9, Volante, el Cap.
I figured I really liked the sound and the functions and simplicity of the unit and the multiple delays so here we go again but this time I am done with complicated effects and going back to basics. Bend over dial in play.
Man I'd love to hear a longform piece, made up of all the riffs in this video. Sounds great while driving.
Cool playing man
Luckily I found a second-hand unit for €150 a couple of months ago. My only complaint is the miniature size of the switches. I use them a lot, so sturdier ones would have been welcome. Next up is a Ditto x4 before it is discontinued. I want a Crave sequencer or Moog Big Brother as well, but I guess they're going to be around for a while yet.
The switches on TC pedals are the same junk plunger switches that, believe it or not, are still used in Line 6's DL-4. They're not difficult to replace if you're comfortable with a soldering iron; plenty of DIY's available
It will be truly sad when the X4 is discontinued.
I bought one on your recommendation a few years back. It's a classic.
And I am very happy that as of this date, my concern was unfounded!
Got mine when it came out ... still love it. I got lots of tips from you
Oh Man!!!! Bill, I greatly appreciate your videos and the creativity that you share with us........ and I just went ahead and ordered the Triple Delay. I had a couple of delay/echo units... and I will probably keep my EHX Grand Canyon... but I'll be selling my Dan Echo (which I've enjoyed since it came out....long ago!) and my Ibanez DL10 (which I've never "Loved", but used...) and I'm really looking forward to diving into the Triple Delay magic. I do hope that it isn't completely discontinued .... maybe "improved", but I'm sure I will be quite happy with this "Old School" version. Thanks for all you do! (I think..... LOL!)
I am happy to report that I was wrong about it being discontinued. Still seems to be alive and kickin'! Hope you enjoy it!
@@chordsoforion I'm pretty certain that my enjoyment in getting to "know" & using this pedal is a "Sure Thing"! Thanks again for "what you do"!
What a Pitty! One of the best delay pedals in my humble opinion. Cheers from Brazil!
Available again now.
I threw it across the room yesterday because it didn’t want to work with me, again. Definitely funky. Maybe time for a hug to make up.
thanks 2 ur advice n vids ,im the proud owner of this fantastic bit of kit ,thanks, sad 2 see it go[i also love me canyon too]thanks 4 the heads up,n great vids/info
Thankfully I have mine! Got mine setup for a Joe satriani type delay sound
I have a Triple Delay but I dont use it that much, because that pedal has one big issue, that makes it nearly unusable in my eyes. If you dial in one delay you have to switch over to dial in the next one. But if you dont write down the settings of delay 1 you have no idea after you set up delay 2 waht the settings of delay 1 were, because you cant see them any more. Same with delay two after you switch to set up delay three. So even if it is a really nice tool for studio work I think its usability for live is somehow very limited, especially if you want to change the settings of one of the delays just a tiny bit on the fly.
Do you actually make changes while playing live? Not that no one does, but it's not common at all. Typically in a set you know what you are going to play and what sounds you want, so there's no need to adjust.
I don't own a TC delay, yet, but can you not see the settings in the TonePrint editor? If so, write it down and have a cheat sheet of the presets. Clearly not an ideal solution, but not an unreasonable workaround either
I see what you mean. It takes a lot of experimentation to come up with a truly magnificent bit, but the exact same settings (in conjunction with other gear) are difficult to copy once they're deleted. That's why I plan to experiment with a sequencer.
Same here, sometimes I need two types of delays in one song and it doesn’t have a global tap tempo to set both delays at the same time when you switch one algo another thing that I dont like is that when you turn off the pedal also the effect gets mute at the same time and it sounds horrible a dry stop .
so I am keeping mine!
You mentioned your regrets about the Fender baritone disappearance. You can get a baritone conversion neck from Warmoth. It fits a Fender neck socket and you can choose the wood and the fret type.
Very true!
I kinda had a feeling this was gonna happen a year ago, when they came out with the Hall of Fame X4, and then the Plethora X5. Luckily I picked one up used prior to the release of the HoF X4. Here's hoping TC releases an X2 version of the Triple Delay with the MASH switches or something.
why not just get an x5 since you can set up 3 delays there?
Ordered!
So happy i just picked one up last week. The prices are going to shoot through the roof.
Ridiculous, whenever something good is out,they get rid of it.keep on rocking, baby ,regardless!!!!
Andy summers gives his approval. 👆
My completely uninformed speculation is that there's a Triple Delay II in the pipeline with MASH switches and other tweaks, but TC don't want to announce it until there aren't so many of the present version sitting in the retail channel.
Is Discontinued By Manufacturer No
@@generalawareness101 Still widely available.
as of 6/26/2021 it is still being made, i just ordered one from sweetwater and its coming tomorrow
I am very glad that I was wrong!!!
You really should try the OTO BIM. It will blow your mind how awesome it sounds because it's 12-Bit and mainly analog!
I always wanted this pedal, but the lack of global tap and reading about TC's switches wearing out always kept me from getting it.
Hopefully they release a Triple Delay 2!
I got one because of your videos, it's a very good delay
I went from the Strymon timeline, to the Flashback Triple delay , now I have the Boss DD 200. It's faster to use and half the space on the board. I have plenty of pitch and shimmers already. the Boss DD 200 sounds great between the Mobius and the Big Sky.
I am sure it does!
Thanks for the heads ..i use a flash back x4 myself and boss dd3 for delays. Gear prices are so weird on the secondary market .
amazing sounding.
You are the cooldaddy of guitar. Love it.
I love this pedal but wish it was half the size.
Shit, missed the chance to buy one second hand at a good price, won't miss the next one, the only weak point about this unit is that the tap tempo does not work for all 3 delays.
Thanks for the info
I Got mine!!!! Thanks to you!!!!!!
Killer tone indeed! Great settings.
My first delay pedal was the Flash back triple delay. Love this pedal to death. Why discontinued. Thomann still sells it.Its still on TC's Web site.I'll never get rid of it. Going to use it until it dies and will record lot of music using it.
It was delays due to moving gear out of China. Plenty available in the music shops now.
5:18 cool riff
They are probably about to release a unit with modulation speed/depth controls with shimmer etc.
Wouldn't that be nice?
Thanks ! i got one on Sale !
Love the three delays thing at 5:25. Love to
Know whats involved.... i have the triple delay. .... also would love some advice on how to get the “Run Like Hell” feel froM this delay
Hi Bill, first of all thanks for the great videos. I need advice. I have a Flashback2, I'm happy with the sound. I'm thinking about Tripple delay or Flashback2 X4. I'm more interested in Triple delay for layering delays. I'm wondering which one is more practical in terms of preparing multiple songs for live use when playing with a group? Or use Triple delay and keep FB2 as well? How many sounds can you prepare in advance so that you only use your foot to play and you don't need to bend down to the pedal and use your hand? Thank you!
I really wish TC Electronic would reissue the Triple Delay with a Display like the Nova Delay has. I own the TC Electronic Nova delay and the Transitio. Delay pedals. I have 2 boards. I use 2 delays for each board. I like to combine the Tape delay (Transition) and long stereo delays in my Eventide Pitch Factor. I am intrigued by the TC Electronic Triple delay ability to use parallel or series. I have used a Boss SE-50 unit that has 5 parallel delays. I have a couple songs where I use that on. I think the TC Electronic Triple delay would be interesting addition to either of my pedal boards. I just prefer displays. My other board uses the Boss MS-3 switcher that integrates stereo fx built in. I use a long tape delay with the TC Electronic Nova delays. I like what you do with that Triple delay pedal.
Bugger.
My fave TC Delay is actually a T Rex Replica rebranded as a TC Vintage Delay. Discontinued.
I have been considering a mega delay to replace my Nemesis. Timeline or TC Triple. This is sad news.
EDIT: I got a Triple for cheap. Yay!
This is a very good delay pedal, though there could be improvements.
Bill did You already tried the oceans 12?
No, I have not. Maybe someday...
My current setup include a triple delay into the oceans 12, it’s awesome
Here in Italy you can still buy It for just 200 euro!
Great to hear!
Yeah, nowadays gear is not in production for long
I have one of these man its amazing. I need to hear ur opinion about this. Unfortunately i might have to sell it when im changing my gear. Im buying the Plethora X5. I will lose some features but gain some more. Like controlling the delays through midi n do whatever i want instantly. Here u have press on n off each one manually. But the triple delay have much more options (the timings n the delay types). So i really dont know its hard to sell it, but no much point in keeping it if i get the Plethora, especially that i would need the $$$. So what do u think? Thank you
One tap tempo to rule them all!
The problem as I see it, is similar to the problem with all delays. Once you dial in for one song, that's it, it is only good for that one song. For example, Ping Pong doesn't work, because nobody really plays stereo. And no one really plays Wet/Dry/Wet except maybe at home. And nobody talks about what setup really works without midi and sequencers and loads of presets. Nobody has time to keep reprogramming and managing 50 presets! So managing the delay effect is basically an untenable situation. It's a total FN disaster.
To play U2 better or no than sdd3000
Thankfully plenty available now, problems last year were probably due to chip makers switching to video game chips during lockdown.
Triple Delay is very good, the should made Triple Delay 2 and add patch/presets possibilities.
Behringer take over TC and since then i noticed loss of quality in this pedals. I'Ve sold theirs tuner, fuzz, sub and up octaver, mojo, dark matter. i don't want any tc pedal in my pedalboard
TC pedals are good especially the old ones when TC was still their own company. But Behringer is going to downgrade the quality.
Can this pedal run in dual mono mode? Eg. 8th triplet on dly 1, quarter note on dly 2. Can I put the 8th triplet on the left out and the quarter note on the right out? Many thanks!
No, it can't be run in dual mono.
Man when i wanted to sell mime i guess im keeping it lol
Forget the delay ....now I'm inspired to grow a beard ( or beard that repeats a beard that triplets a beard ?)
All good things end :/ Recently I was looking at my modular and thought I would look at Mutable Instuments for some of their best kit ... yup, discontinued. All part of the 'new shiny thing' world we live in. Sad but true.
Hug
Bill, have you ever tried a Digitech Timebender Musical Delay?
No I have not. Do you like it?
@@chordsoforion It's the best and most versatile delay I've ever tried. It's really that good. If you can find a secon-hand Timebender, do yourself a favor and buy it.
I've had this delay for several years. I just realized that in serial mode ALL 3 switches need to be active (lit) to get sound. If I click off one sound cuts out. Thing is I can't recall whether this is how it should work or whether there's a problem. Any help would be appreciated. I'm also having a difficult time trying to get a "spacey" effect w/o slapback. I would also be grateful for any help there.
hmmm. on my unit, you don't need all delay lines to be active. I can turn each on and off individually and all is well. Also, here's a walkthrough of how I get some of the sounds I like from the Triple Delay: ua-cam.com/video/V27DX2E50As/v-deo.html
@@chordsoforion Thank you for the quick reply. I was leaning toward the "this isn't right" conclusion. Oh well. I guess I need to open it up and hope for an easy fix. I actually saw your 'drone' video before I posted here. It was very helpful and I was able to get results I've never gotten. But, I have some quick captures posted that sample the exact sound I seek. Thanks again.
you know what i hate about delay? if you make a mistake, it reminds you of it over and over.... all you want to do is just move on and hope no one else heard, but no. delay is there to call you out....
love the tone of the tele. nice delay work too.
Is this the same as the Flashback II? Or is it just the older gen that might be going away?
It may an older gen that will be replaced, but this is totally different from the Flashback II.
U cool dude
I think I'll buy another....
Just noticed the Triple on sweet water. Maybe they listen to C.O.D.
It really did seem like the TD was going the "way of the buffalo" at the time, but thankfully it's still available!
Do you know if I can use an external tap tempo?
There is support for MIDI tempo sync, but there is not CTL input for a dedicated tap tempo switch.
O the speculation will drive up the prices for the coming weeks I bet there just gonna come out with there newest greatest pedal it's time for someone to 1 up strymon i would like to see that team t.c. for me my sonic waves will dismantle the barrier of outer space and crack the sky
What is your gruitar? Beautifull, im from Brazil
Fender Telecaster Black Top Baritone
Hello. Your guitar sound very clean and fat. Also i have a telecaster too and i wanna know what pick are they?
The neck and middle pickups on the Telecaster DiMarzio Area T, and the bridge pickup is the stock Fender humbucker that came with the guitar.
Again this sounds cool on drugs ,man.
I suspect a manufacturing delay due to c19 or that this will be repackaged by the company into a new product.
Is Discontinued By Manufacturer No
No. It's not discontinued.
@@2112jonr Are you able to read?
Well that sad
why do you support amazon and not music stores?
I don't know for a fact, but it's highly probably that he gets a percentage of sales; the pedals are priced way too high anyway
I live in a rural area and there are no music stores within 1.5 hours (besides one that focus on school instruments). So just about everything I buy is online.
@@chordsoforion Do your local, and I mean that loosely, music stores not offer shipping? My local stores and even mom & pop shops in other states have always offered me shipping. If I buy music gear, it's never from Amazon, so it's just odd to me that Amazon is the recommended "shop"
@@chordsoforion so what about all the music stores that sell online like reverb or sweetwater etc? you cant be that ignorant. amazon provides no added value like expertise and amazon is crushing many specialty stores. amazon also does not support the music community
@@jjrusy7438 Oh I buy lots of stuff from all those vendors. Lots of $$$ worth of stuff. And you have that choice too if you don't like Amazon.
Sold you sexy bearded bastard