So glad you guys shined a spotlight on Aaron. What he has done for those of us KC tone fans is beyond belief nearly. The magic combo of the specific Utah speaker and Veleno guitar for In Utero was such an important discovery. People should check out his IR packs he went through a lot of his own money to create those for us and they’re priced more than fair.
Tbf, Kurt reportedly showed up to the In Utero sessions with something like 30 DS-1's and said "these two, these are the only good two" the others weren't "good" enough.
Chasing tone is a life long obsession.... I've had a tone in my head for years and still have yet to find it exactly how I want it....love this type of video..need more to show how you chase that tone.
On some other channel (maybe that harp girl with like 1000 pedals) someone commented that pedals are like Funko Pops for musicians. And...yeah. That's about it. If it exists, I has to has it.
I know nothing about guitars, but I've always loved Nirvana. Watching how challenging it was for you obvious professionals to capture Kurt's sound adds an extra layer of appreciation for the songs and makes them that much more special. I think you guys nailed it. Really cool video.
I think he is suggesting that the powers of autism that drive him on nirvana tone would be helpful to have working on a problem like the cure for cancer.
Oh man, I LOVE this format and especially loved the central message of finding these tones through experimentation and openness rather than through rigid adherence to the *perfect exact* gear that was originally used. Please please do more, this was so damn fun!!
Much respect to Rash. His interview with Albini was unexpectedly wholesome. Almost a tear-jerker in light of what happened just a little while afterward - NirvanaGuitars is the proletarian Nirvana tone channel, though. Eric will get you there on a budget.
Yeah that is funny but you probanly could do the same thing with a used $100 boss katana with a laptop or smart phone plugged in to get to the sneaky amps. Or any number of cheap or free plugins on a pc.
Pedal X absolutely broke Josh. Superb job guys but you really need to bring Aaron Rash in the same room together and have a go again and record the jam. I feel you will make Kurt really proud!
What is important to remember were these guys just bought stuff they could afford and liked and were trying to make their own sound. Make your own sounds
Yeah definitely not something to forget but they were also combining sounds they heard other people use and liked. You always do what YOU like but hearing what other people do can point you in the right direction. Just don’t take someone’s sound top to bottom. You gotta mix up lots of influences so that you can barely pick out a single one easily.
Thank you for this video. Recently got into amp modelling with a Tone Master Pro and my first trip into IR’s was Aarons Nevermind pack. This video was a brilliant reminder of why using what you have & knowing the gear well enough to get the best out of it. Just that wobble on Heart Shaped Box solo was mind blowing & that Crayon & Mimiq pedal is on the shopping list. Loved the ending of being inspired, not mimicking. One of Aarons IRs helped me dial in to one of my songs tones that I had in my head. Loved. Loved. LOVED. This video. 🤘🏽
Aaron rash is getting crazy love for his contributions to Nirvana Tone. HES slowly piecing together what all the engineers did to achieve their classic album sounds!
Josh, omg you are an amazing guitar player. Hat's off! The whole team did an amazing job. too. My favourite JHS video ever. Thank you very much for this!
So glad you collaborated with Aaron on this as his videos are super awesome to watch. I'm not even a massive Nirvana fan but they're really interesting
If they do, I hope Josh does his research and mentions how bitter Billy Corgan is that he feels Butch Vig ripped off his guitar tone from _Gish_ for _Nevermind_ even though a) they don't sound that similar and b) Billy and Kurt are/were very different kinds of player. Older Big Muffs (pre little ones) take up a lot more floor space than DS-1s so getting them all in the shot is going to be fun for whoever is behind the camera. 😂
Appreciate this! Being such a hardcore Nirvana fan since I was a kid, its driving me a little crazy the way you're playing the School riff wrong LOL! Just had to tease you about it...much love man!
I swear there's an extra A in there Josh added that it doesn't have, all the A notes aren't being bent enough and where's the mute on the A5 chords played in eighths for the chorus. I had similar notes for the other songs too. There's more sliding and bending in Kurdt's rhythm stuff than Josh is doing when he emulates it.
Yeah as a die hard nirvana fan, the video isn’t really made for you I think. Wrong notes, stuff that is blatantly obvious revealed as a mega unveiling and the fact that a JHS pedal makes it appearance everywhere.. A small clone big box not available, but there are new versions of nano/neo you can get. It is entertaining, but I think not for people who have had the slightest research in nirvana already
@X70Cressida Be careful! I did that with pedals and synths and ended up selling all of them. I became so overwhelmed that I stopped really creating anything. It's what you do, not what you have. We're all different though. that was just my experience.
@@danjwalker I completely agree. Some of my favorite albums were recorded with just a guitar and an amp; no frills, just music. No purpose in paying thousands of dollars in gear for an instrument you can barely play. Still, a big muff, earthquaker plumes, and some kind of chorus wouldn’t hurt😅
WOW. THIS video was SOOO Much MORE enjoyable and Inspiring that I ever thought it would be!!! This is just a very cool idea and BRAVO to ALL of you for the contribution! Ya know, I haven't been a THAT into Nirvana, (NOR am I a Hater! just somewhere in between) - but watching this and HEARING it - I've gotta go do some DEEP Nirvana listening now! Thank you!.
I was into metal by the time I got into Nirvana. That heavy metal elitism had me missing out on great music. Enjoy the catalogue bud, it gets better the deeper you look into it.
Great video! The chord progression of In Bloom baffles me to this day. It’s fascinating to analyze these songs I loved so much as a kid, but doing as an adult who knows and loves music theory and harmony. Kurt’s ability to write great, catchy melodies over the weirdest changes was maybe his biggest strength as a writer imo.
It's almost like music theory is a hinderence to songs like In Bloom, it doesn't really make sense with traditional theory, I think every note is in that song, and I don't mean just a passing chromatic thing but part of the song.
Absolutely. Knowing theory is irreplaceable when it comes to doing my job as a sideman guitarist who plays with a shit ton of different people. But when it comes to writing there are certainly times when I wish I could erase the ‘rules’ from my brain temporarily.
@@ChrisEck13 Probably this right here. Learning guitar in the days of no internet meant your best friend had to teach you bar chords (which might have been incorrect lol). Charlie Parker is another example of blowing past music theory because he learned to play the saxophone alone in his room with no instructions or help.
What a fun video! Kurt is one of the best songwriters of my generation and also one of the most underappreciated. Great guitar player too, obviously. This video made me feel his absence..I know what I'm listening to for the next hour. Breed is the best song on Nevermind for me, was hoping you would fiddle with that =)
Real cool to see Aaron here, he's done insane stuff for Nirvana tones, he deserves appreciation. I'll say that for a lot of these tones, you guys definitely got in the ballpark, the HSB solo was spot on! Really cool stuff
I wonder when this was shot, Aaron has since stated that the Rat is the distortion on Heart Shaped Box and has also released IR packs for In Utero and Nevermind
Great job on this video! I’ve been obsessed with the guitar sounds on each of 3 Nirvana’s studio albums. For the Nevermind album, Andy Wallace definitely added some chorus on many of Kurt’s guitar parts. From everything I’ve read and heard in his interviews, he did indeed use the Yamaha SPX-90. Specifically, he used the “Symphonic” preset on guitar parts, such as “Come As You Are”. You can’t get that chorus sound alone with just the Small Clone. If you listen to Butch Vig’s original “Devonshire” mixes of Nevermind, and even Nirvana’s live performances, the tone sounds way different than the album guitar tones because they are lacking that additional SPX-90 chorus.
This is the best guitar UA-cam BY FAR. You guys kill it every episode. The production, the humor, the information, and the jams come together to perform ultimate entertainment. AND THIS my favorite format of your's. Recreating the other tones is so fun to watch. Still waiting for the shoe gaze episode! Can't wait!!!!!
loved this video. if anyone who loves in utero and albini as much as I do would know, the 2013 mix of in utero is the definitive mix of what the band actually wanted. Many of the songs previous mixes weren't albini's, 2013 is in full and remastered with krist and dave.
I like this kind of video and wouldn't mind seeing more of these. I like the approach of using modern gear to approximate a sound that is now considered an authentic or vintage grunge sound, rather than using the actual gear and techniques used at the time. I think it hits home the point you make that the original recordings were a product of the existing technology, the way in which they recorded, how loud they played, the tastes of the band and the producer as to what worked, and chance elements. All of those factors result in a sound that is distinctive to a period in time, which becomes harder and harder to reproduce as time passes and as the way in which we make music changes. Very cool.
As an aging, mid-50s punk who was in bands at the same time as Nirvana*, I just want to say that it's both weird and kind of wonderful to see you put so much thought into stuff that we at the time didn't give one tiny fuck about. We would just plug our crappy used guitars into whatever pedals and amps were available to us and play. Given how random and careless we were it's understandable that dissecting that stuff would be maddening for you. Kudos on a damn fine effort and a very fun video. *not nearly as good and successful (obviously) as they were
I still think that approach is a lot more healthy. Working on getting the songs down and the band tight / playing together as one is way more important than "perfect" tone. The only people who care deeply about the guitarist's tone in a band are other guitarists, whom usually make up a tiny percentage of the overall fanbase. Most people are in it for the power of the music, if any.
It's true but Nirvana had Butch Vig and Andy Wallace on their back for Nevermind than Albini on In Utero, so they are giving some consistence to that chaos.
@garydiamondguitarist Many aren't even into it for the power of the music, but rather to convey an image of themselves to others through their style choices, like they do with clothes and cars.
I don't believe it! After all of us did it multiple times, you guys finally took a shot at it! That's definitely a views maker video! Fun times at JHS with our special guest, the ghost of Kurt Cobain himself! 😊❤😂😂 PS: love the video I'm just being funny.
Ah, that's prolly why this video is just a tad bit "shill-ier" than the usual videos on this channel. Hope this vid was a Algorithm Friendly Unit Shifter for them.
I LOVE THIS. Great job guys. Im doing “Come as u are” in a cover band, was hoping to see that one… keep making the videos guys they are way too entertaining
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8:05 According to Butch Vig, Andy Wallace used an FX processor during the recording of Nevermind, that's "the" sound on a lot of songs, the doubler, chorus, flanger and bass tone, all came from the Yamaha SPX90.
Loved this! I love the problem solving, the musical thinking, and the lesson that there are lots of ways, some of which are really cheap and simple, to get these sounds. I'd love to see more of these!
Who knew my A string tuner had a built-in Nirvana pedal. That's so cool, that's the coolest thing I've heard in a minute. I think my takeaway is; be out of tune, make sure all of your equipment is halfway broken, and play it load.
Theres a pedal called Pitch Box by Moore. I find that the "Detune" mode at "-1" does two things that I feel like get me closer to the Nevermind wall of distortion: 1) adds a doubling effect, and 2) causes a lot of unusual interference and harmonics SIMILAR to a flanger just without the LFO / oscillating wah effect. I consider this effect similar to playing a 12 string, pretty far away from an oscillating chorus effect.
That's def. a fun day for sure. I love Nirvana! I was 11 yrs. old when Nevermind was released and it blew me away...especially when I heard "Lithium". It's the first song on my playlist. Rick Beato interviewing Butch Vig about the recording of Nevermind is a must watch. Thanks for another great video Josh! Peace
I mean you could probably buy a Fender Twin for the price of a cup of coffee of a kid from down the street though. Those things are loud. No one wants those anymore :)
Yeah its affordable ....when you own a pedal making company and own one of the Worlds best collection of pedals . Im not jealous or envious because I am a Christian and I love Josh and his crew like my brothers.😅 Plus drums are my main instrument so I dont get pedal envy. They are fun though. Thought there would be more sansamp action.....
Our A&R consultant and label advisor is non other than Bruce Pavitt, the legendary founder of Sub Pop who discovered and signed Nirvana. And I must say this video was very informative about Kurt’s tones. I’m forwarding it to the guitarist/singer of one of our bands called Prince Of Lilies as they did their last two albums with Albini and they are about to record their 3rd album and this might help inform them on guitar tone. Thanks. Good job guys
Axefx is the rabbit hole that never ends for me. I can imagine Kemper is equally rabbit holeish in many regards....perhaps even more. Dammit I love this channel.
Matching tones on studio albums and trying to be 100% exact can be very difficult because of all the factors oyu mentioned off the top. And most of the time doesn't matter. Instead, I usually try to get in the ballpark and figure out what tone that artist was happy with using live. Or what would I be happy with using live to play the song. What sounds good and evokes the feeling of the song, rather than what matches exactly on an A/B test. Then after doing that.. Probably lower the gain and cut the bass a bit. A lot of times that satisfying guitar tone in your bedroom doesn't work on stage, because you have a bass player who fills out the low end way better than you (if you give them the space by cutting your low end), and when the volume is turned up, you find you don't need as much gain.
Sounds a bit like Kurt Cobain himself too. I'm not being flippant. I think his solos were a representation of himself. The album cover iconography maybe says a lot about him too. Come to think of it nevermind too has a baby surrounded by fluid.
Really enjoyed this. More of this sort of thing, please! Any progress I've made as a guitar player has been trying to play or sound like my heroes, getting it wrong, and thinking 'oh, I like that. That's mine now'.
@jhspedals Guys for the solo of Heart-shape Box check out the original Albini MIX, it show the original tone of the solo with full "tremolo" sound, they reduce it in the REMIX of this song. ua-cam.com/video/bGocxUFAID8/v-deo.htmlsi=Fif8HaAhs4psiBKY&t=410 I just use a very strong tremolo with fuzz or big muff whatever maybe a fuzz with bias control for gating dying out effect at the end in the sustaining note ..
Get in a time machine and go back to the grunge era! Hopefully this is more right on than the Radiohead one (was close but not quite). Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Loved the video! The only thing I feel it was missing from the In Utero era would have been the crazy sounds in Radio Friendly Unit Shifter, which I believe were achieved through the Poly Chorus
Honestly, Kurt (likely) would have done the same thing. He was known, and I’ve seen on live footage, approaching lead almost lackadaisical, more at spur of the moment. LOVE the video! Hats off for doing this!
This is always so much fun! I think people forget about studio trickery when they’re trying to replicate guitar tones. That’s the whole point of getting a good producer and studio, creating those layers.
I’m very pleasantly surprised how close you hit. Good job guys! Respect for giving props to Austin. “AAAAH! I DON’T KNOW WHAT HE DID!” is living rent free in my head now, it’s too funny.
For Heart Shaped Box the solo was remixed after the fact. They recorded the song by Krist thought it could sound better but Kurt wouldn’t re-record it so it was edited and mixed afterwards, although I don’t remember by who though.
It was done during the sessions at Pachyderm. I’d love to hear Kurt’s original vision of it. I believe Krist quoted himself as calling the original solo an abortion.
Everybody knocking on Kurt’s tuning, he was the one IN tune. Tuning affects the tone. The world would be a better place if bands would start tuning to School.
You know you're chasing tone when you're auditioning 27 different DS-1s.
Chasing? More like stalking!
Seeing Mr. Scott auditioning that many DS-1 pedals is just plain perfect
You know you’re right
... Just because he can
@peyton_0826 🤦
Great video. NirvanaGuitars always gets almost identical tone for pretty much any Kurt Cobain song too.
In Utero is 1/4-dropped.
This should definitely become a series! I love this format!!
Agree
Agree as well.
Yes yes and ummmmmm…. Yep.
Wholeheartedly agree
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So glad you guys shined a spotlight on Aaron. What he has done for those of us KC tone fans is beyond belief nearly. The magic combo of the specific Utah speaker and Veleno guitar for In Utero was such an important discovery. People should check out his IR packs he went through a lot of his own money to create those for us and they’re priced more than fair.
All the DS1s on the floor 😂😂
I have one from the 80s. The resistors and caps start to change values after a while so there will be slight but noticeable differences
Yes, that's a perfect Josh portrait isn't it? 😁
@@malcolmkendall1547what is a protrait?
@@malcolmkendall1547 Cognitively consonant, if you will
Tbf, Kurt reportedly showed up to the In Utero sessions with something like 30 DS-1's and said "these two, these are the only good two" the others weren't "good" enough.
Chasing tone is a life long obsession.... I've had a tone in my head for years and still have yet to find it exactly how I want it....love this type of video..need more to show how you chase that tone.
The look on Josh’s face when he realizes someone has a pedal he doesn’t own 😂😂😂
On some other channel (maybe that harp girl with like 1000 pedals) someone commented that pedals are like Funko Pops for musicians. And...yeah. That's about it. If it exists, I has to has it.
Our collective consciousness feels his pain and this will be passed on to future generations.
no can do. this must be reverse engineered ASAP. the children, the little baby children. nope.
But does he have the box?
that sneaky lil, "you should send me a picture of the circuit"
I know nothing about guitars, but I've always loved Nirvana. Watching how challenging it was for you obvious professionals to capture Kurt's sound adds an extra layer of appreciation for the songs and makes them that much more special. I think you guys nailed it. Really cool video.
Get yourself someone who looks at you like Josh looked at Pedal X. Great vid!
Love how you guys do it for the music, give props to other companies pedals that are great and make kick ass pedals yourselves
Aaron Rash is dope, we need a guy like that on cancer.
We need him on cancer ?
He’s done so much for the Nirvana Gear community, don’t you think the uh, ancer-cay would slow him down?
I think he is suggesting that the powers of autism that drive him on nirvana tone would be helpful to have working on a problem like the cure for cancer.
We have had several. They all seem to die mysteriously right before they testify to congress.
Cancer research??? .... right?
Oh man, I LOVE this format and especially loved the central message of finding these tones through experimentation and openness rather than through rigid adherence to the *perfect exact* gear that was originally used. Please please do more, this was so damn fun!!
pedal X lol broke Josh
"Like...is there a schematic?" 😂
@nickrouse8426 this is definitely a commercial for a future pedal lol. I'm for it!
"absolutely not". he'll have none of this. JHX is on the making.
Much respect to Rash. His interview with Albini was unexpectedly wholesome. Almost a tear-jerker in light of what happened just a little while afterward - NirvanaGuitars is the proletarian Nirvana tone channel, though. Eric will get you there on a budget.
the "Idon't have this pedal am I gunna survive part" hit's so hard! I couldn't hold a huge belly laugh!
“Our goal is to use more affordable gear to get these tones” *immediately uses $2000 kemper*
Which all "just happen" to be JHS pedals
@@S1ipperyJimtrue
@@S1ipperyJim most of the JHS pedals are affordable $99 most of em.
Yeah that is funny but you probanly could do the same thing with a used $100 boss katana with a laptop or smart phone plugged in to get to the sneaky amps. Or any number of cheap or free plugins on a pc.
@@shadow105720 i love the sneaky amps irs tbh. the match drive setting is the goat
Pedal X absolutely broke Josh. Superb job guys but you really need to bring Aaron Rash in the same room together and have a go again and record the jam. I feel you will make Kurt really proud!
I hope he can see one to clone it.
@backlogbuddies we all know Josh he is already talking with the pedal fx guy about a limited run pedal
@@AnK11Morrison Flamma will clone it in a few days after it comes out.
I honestly thought that was a joke at first and he was just pranking Josh. So funny.
Hahaha Josh learning about an unkown pedal is gold. Incredibly inspiring video.
Love this. Thanks for guiding us down the rabbit hole.
What is important to remember were these guys just bought stuff they could afford and liked and were trying to make their own sound. Make your own sounds
Yes, but Science is fun. Matching a sound is Science.
Yeah, Kurt would be mortified to see a bunch of folks trying so hard to "capture his tone".
Yeah definitely not something to forget but they were also combining sounds they heard other people use and liked. You always do what YOU like but hearing what other people do can point you in the right direction. Just don’t take someone’s sound top to bottom. You gotta mix up lots of influences so that you can barely pick out a single one easily.
@@rocketdoggo we can't know what he would've thought once he was 57 (!!!)
He probably wouldn't care by now lol.
@@rmaxtpmx sure but I’d rather spend time on what could be than what was
Thank you for this video. Recently got into amp modelling with a Tone Master Pro and my first trip into IR’s was Aarons Nevermind pack. This video was a brilliant reminder of why using what you have & knowing the gear well enough to get the best out of it. Just that wobble on Heart Shaped Box solo was mind blowing & that Crayon & Mimiq pedal is on the shopping list. Loved the ending of being inspired, not mimicking. One of Aarons IRs helped me dial in to one of my songs tones that I had in my head. Loved. Loved. LOVED. This video. 🤘🏽
Aaron rash is getting crazy love for his contributions to Nirvana Tone. HES slowly piecing together what all the engineers did to achieve their classic album sounds!
He needs to do My Bloody Valentine next
I smiled so big when you brought up Aaron Rash!!!! Long time fan you both!!
"Dude, you should send me a picture of the circ.... (fades out)". I'm coming back here in 6 months for the unveiling of the JHS Uterus pedal.
Josh, omg you are an amazing guitar player. Hat's off! The whole team did an amazing job. too. My favourite JHS video ever. Thank you very much for this!
So glad you collaborated with Aaron on this as his videos are super awesome to watch. I'm not even a massive Nirvana fan but they're really interesting
He would probably had to reload the video if he had not..
Love videos like this, thank you for sharing and helping bands like us find the right tones to do Nirvana justice.
Love content like this. Please do an episode on Siamese Dream next
Amen to that!
Yesssss!!
!!!!!!!!!!!
If they do, I hope Josh does his research and mentions how bitter Billy Corgan is that he feels Butch Vig ripped off his guitar tone from _Gish_ for _Nevermind_ even though a) they don't sound that similar and b) Billy and Kurt are/were very different kinds of player.
Older Big Muffs (pre little ones) take up a lot more floor space than DS-1s so getting them all in the shot is going to be fun for whoever is behind the camera. 😂
Holy shit yes
I really hope this becomes a series. A different artist for each episode. You guys were so spot on.
Appreciate this! Being such a hardcore Nirvana fan since I was a kid, its driving me a little crazy the way you're playing the School riff wrong LOL! Just had to tease you about it...much love man!
I swear there's an extra A in there Josh added that it doesn't have, all the A notes aren't being bent enough and where's the mute on the A5 chords played in eighths for the chorus. I had similar notes for the other songs too. There's more sliding and bending in Kurdt's rhythm stuff than Josh is doing when he emulates it.
Yeah as a die hard nirvana fan, the video isn’t really made for you I think. Wrong notes, stuff that is blatantly obvious revealed as a mega unveiling and the fact that a JHS pedal makes it appearance everywhere.. A small clone big box not available, but there are new versions of nano/neo you can get. It is entertaining, but I think not for people who have had the slightest research in nirvana already
Watching josh see a new pedal that hes never seen before was the highlight of this whole video. So great 🙌✨️
Perfect timing! I just got a DS1 on Sunday for my birthday!
Awesome! Always a much needed pedal in your arsenal.
@ It’s my first pedal too! I can feel myself slowly delving down the rabbit hole of needing MORE..
@X70Cressida Be careful! I did that with pedals and synths and ended up selling all of them. I became so overwhelmed that I stopped really creating anything. It's what you do, not what you have. We're all different though. that was just my experience.
@@danjwalker I completely agree. Some of my favorite albums were recorded with just a guitar and an amp; no frills, just music. No purpose in paying thousands of dollars in gear for an instrument you can barely play. Still, a big muff, earthquaker plumes, and some kind of chorus wouldn’t hurt😅
@X70Cressida Haha. You know what? Every kitchen needs salt and pepper!
WOW. THIS video was SOOO Much MORE enjoyable and Inspiring that I ever thought it would be!!! This is just a very cool idea and BRAVO to ALL of you for the contribution! Ya know, I haven't been a THAT into Nirvana, (NOR am I a Hater! just somewhere in between) - but watching this and HEARING it - I've gotta go do some DEEP Nirvana listening now! Thank you!.
I was into metal by the time I got into Nirvana. That heavy metal elitism had me missing out on great music. Enjoy the catalogue bud, it gets better the deeper you look into it.
I hoped this was an Aaron Rash video... What a man!!! This is awesome!!!!
Oh, that's a xmas gift!
Really interesting, and thank you for bringing Aaron in this episode, his quest on Kurt tone is amazing!
Great video! The chord progression of In Bloom baffles me to this day. It’s fascinating to analyze these songs I loved so much as a kid, but doing as an adult who knows and loves music theory and harmony. Kurt’s ability to write great, catchy melodies over the weirdest changes was maybe his biggest strength as a writer imo.
It's almost like music theory is a hinderence to songs like In Bloom, it doesn't really make sense with traditional theory, I think every note is in that song, and I don't mean just a passing chromatic thing but part of the song.
Absolutely. Knowing theory is irreplaceable when it comes to doing my job as a sideman guitarist who plays with a shit ton of different people. But when it comes to writing there are certainly times when I wish I could erase the ‘rules’ from my brain temporarily.
@@ChrisEck13 Probably this right here. Learning guitar in the days of no internet meant your best friend had to teach you bar chords (which might have been incorrect lol). Charlie Parker is another example of blowing past music theory because he learned to play the saxophone alone in his room with no instructions or help.
There's a Rick beato video about that, about how he uses almost every note, check it out
What a fun video! Kurt is one of the best songwriters of my generation and also one of the most underappreciated. Great guitar player too, obviously. This video made me feel his absence..I know what I'm listening to for the next hour. Breed is the best song on Nevermind for me, was hoping you would fiddle with that =)
This channel has single-handedly inspired me to pick up my guitar after 15+ years of it being in its case.
Hey. I stopped playing for 19 years. I’m back playing for 5 years now. It’s never too late.
I'm sorry but these videos are freaking awesome. Love it. I am a huge fan.
Love this @jhspedals, thank you!
Real cool to see Aaron here, he's done insane stuff for Nirvana tones, he deserves appreciation.
I'll say that for a lot of these tones, you guys definitely got in the ballpark, the HSB solo was spot on! Really cool stuff
It’s so cool seeing this once small channel chasing one of my favorite tones get this level of recognition. Thanks for having Aaron on!!!
I wonder when this was shot, Aaron has since stated that the Rat is the distortion on Heart Shaped Box and has also released IR packs for In Utero and Nevermind
Man, this one was a blast - Great work, y’all! 👏
The JHS show has been so good the past couple months. Keep it up! I'm loving the content.
Got to this video 5 years late!! Too late to enter the giveaway 😂😂😂 beautiful work!! So good
You guys should do this more often! So interesting watching you all investigate those sounds
Loved this one. Every aspect, the history, the context and the experimentation and collaboration.
Yay Aaron Rash collab
This might be the most enjoyable episode you have ever done and I have watched yall for years. Thank you, very cool.
I am so grateful for all the great videos this year!
oh yeisss jhs chasing tones having the resources of josh? yes please give me moree
Great job on this video! I’ve been obsessed with the guitar sounds on each of 3 Nirvana’s studio albums. For the Nevermind album, Andy Wallace definitely added some chorus on many of Kurt’s guitar parts. From everything I’ve read and heard in his interviews, he did indeed use the Yamaha SPX-90. Specifically, he used the “Symphonic” preset on guitar parts, such as “Come As You Are”. You can’t get that chorus sound alone with just the Small Clone. If you listen to Butch Vig’s original “Devonshire” mixes of Nevermind, and even Nirvana’s live performances, the tone sounds way different than the album guitar tones because they are lacking that additional SPX-90 chorus.
The original Butch Vig mixes are on the 20th Anniversary edition. I was happily surprised to finally hear those pre-Devonshire mixes.
It was one fantastically amazing album, and we could've done with another four or five after.
Great video, thank you!
This is the best guitar UA-cam BY FAR. You guys kill it every episode. The production, the humor, the information, and the jams come together to perform ultimate entertainment. AND THIS my favorite format of your's. Recreating the other tones is so fun to watch. Still waiting for the shoe gaze episode! Can't wait!!!!!
loved this video.
if anyone who loves in utero and albini as much as I do would know, the 2013 mix of in utero is the definitive mix of what the band actually wanted. Many of the songs previous mixes weren't albini's, 2013 is in full and remastered with krist and dave.
I like this kind of video and wouldn't mind seeing more of these.
I like the approach of using modern gear to approximate a sound that is now considered an authentic or vintage grunge sound, rather than using the actual gear and techniques used at the time. I think it hits home the point you make that the original recordings were a product of the existing technology, the way in which they recorded, how loud they played, the tastes of the band and the producer as to what worked, and chance elements. All of those factors result in a sound that is distinctive to a period in time, which becomes harder and harder to reproduce as time passes and as the way in which we make music changes. Very cool.
One of the most encouraging videos from JHS ever!
As an aging, mid-50s punk who was in bands at the same time as Nirvana*, I just want to say that it's both weird and kind of wonderful to see you put so much thought into stuff that we at the time didn't give one tiny fuck about. We would just plug our crappy used guitars into whatever pedals and amps were available to us and play. Given how random and careless we were it's understandable that dissecting that stuff would be maddening for you. Kudos on a damn fine effort and a very fun video. *not nearly as good and successful (obviously) as they were
I still think that approach is a lot more healthy. Working on getting the songs down and the band tight / playing together as one is way more important than "perfect" tone. The only people who care deeply about the guitarist's tone in a band are other guitarists, whom usually make up a tiny percentage of the overall fanbase. Most people are in it for the power of the music, if any.
It's true but Nirvana had Butch Vig and Andy Wallace on their back for Nevermind than Albini on In Utero, so they are giving some consistence to that chaos.
@garydiamondguitarist Many aren't even into it for the power of the music, but rather to convey an image of themselves to others through their style choices, like they do with clothes and cars.
Oh wow you played guitar at the same time as Kurt. Those are quite the credentials;)
recording an album now. fell in love with nirvana again. inspired to keep music alive and to keep this pedalboard growing
Josh. Are you going to work some magic and get a #3 pedal "X" ????
The expression on your face was priceless when you heard of this pedal.
I have Pedal X #5. Featured it during the solo in my HSB cover on my channel
@jq.guitarsi know it. Ha ha
Fun! Thanks for bringing us along, Good work!
I don't believe it! After all of us did it multiple times, you guys finally took a shot at it! That's definitely a views maker video! Fun times at JHS with our special guest, the ghost of Kurt Cobain himself! 😊❤😂😂 PS: love the video I'm just being funny.
Do you think that's English?
@@HerbieBancock probably not since I'm from brazil and my mother language is Portuguese. ✌️😜
lol nice
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Ah, that's prolly why this video is just a tad bit "shill-ier" than the usual videos on this channel. Hope this vid was a Algorithm Friendly Unit Shifter for them.
did a hell of a lot better than I ever could! Keep being awesome out there
What a great video, gents!
I LOVE THIS. Great job guys. Im doing “Come as u are” in a cover band, was hoping to see that one… keep making the videos guys they are way too entertaining
8:05 According to Butch Vig, Andy Wallace used an FX processor during the recording of Nevermind, that's "the" sound on a lot of songs, the doubler, chorus, flanger and bass tone, all came from the Yamaha SPX90.
Wonderful job guys I really think this was awesome. Lifelong Nirvana fan, seeing my daughter get into it too I'm sending her this video for sure.
Loved this! I love the problem solving, the musical thinking, and the lesson that there are lots of ways, some of which are really cheap and simple, to get these sounds. I'd love to see more of these!
Who knew my A string tuner had a built-in Nirvana pedal. That's so cool, that's the coolest thing I've heard in a minute. I think my takeaway is; be out of tune, make sure all of your equipment is halfway broken, and play it load.
This was an excellent video! Good job gang
Theres a pedal called Pitch Box by Moore. I find that the "Detune" mode at "-1" does two things that I feel like get me closer to the Nevermind wall of distortion: 1) adds a doubling effect, and 2) causes a lot of unusual interference and harmonics SIMILAR to a flanger just without the LFO / oscillating wah effect. I consider this effect similar to playing a 12 string, pretty far away from an oscillating chorus effect.
That's def. a fun day for sure. I love Nirvana! I was 11 yrs. old when Nevermind was released and it blew me away...especially when I heard "Lithium". It's the first song on my playlist. Rick Beato interviewing Butch Vig about the recording of Nevermind is a must watch. Thanks for another great video Josh! Peace
the "i don't have this pedal, am i gonna survive" really got to me lol
I love these chasing tone videos!! Keep them coming! Love it!
“we try to use more modern ready available gear, more affordable gear” whips out a damn kemper profiler
Any multi effects pedal amp sim will do
@@Fraughtful
Except Josh is using Profiles of his own amps.
He demos all his pedals into the Kemper using a Profile of one of his amps.
@@guitartoneSAthat you can purchase and download for $25 😉
I mean you could probably buy a Fender Twin for the price of a cup of coffee of a kid from down the street though. Those things are loud. No one wants those anymore :)
Yeah its affordable ....when you own a pedal making company and own one of the Worlds best collection of pedals .
Im not jealous or envious because I am a Christian and I love Josh and his crew like my brothers.😅
Plus drums are my main instrument so I dont get pedal envy.
They are fun though.
Thought there would be more sansamp action.....
This episode was amazing. You guys really put so much work into it.
Saludos desde México!
Our A&R consultant and label advisor is non other than Bruce Pavitt, the legendary founder of Sub Pop who discovered and signed Nirvana. And I must say this video was very informative about Kurt’s tones. I’m forwarding it to the guitarist/singer of one of our bands called Prince Of Lilies as they did their last two albums with Albini and they are about to record their 3rd album and this might help inform them on guitar tone. Thanks. Good job guys
Axefx is the rabbit hole that never ends for me. I can imagine Kemper is equally rabbit holeish in many regards....perhaps even more. Dammit I love this channel.
Matching tones on studio albums and trying to be 100% exact can be very difficult because of all the factors oyu mentioned off the top. And most of the time doesn't matter.
Instead, I usually try to get in the ballpark and figure out what tone that artist was happy with using live. Or what would I be happy with using live to play the song. What sounds good and evokes the feeling of the song, rather than what matches exactly on an A/B test.
Then after doing that.. Probably lower the gain and cut the bass a bit.
A lot of times that satisfying guitar tone in your bedroom doesn't work on stage, because you have a bass player who fills out the low end way better than you (if you give them the space by cutting your low end), and when the volume is turned up, you find you don't need as much gain.
Cool video. And Aaron’s channel is great. He gets the best and closest Nirvana tones hands down.
10:45 My dog got upset when you played the solo 😅
😂😂😂
lol, it was just as good a noisy mess as Kurt did.
Cracking job guys, really enjoyable video kept me gripped, thank you! 👌
We used to call it a "Kurt Cobain solo" when someone (mostly me) played weird out-of-key leads that sort of fizzled out and gave up halfway through
Sounds a bit like Kurt Cobain himself too. I'm not being flippant. I think his solos were a representation of himself. The album cover iconography maybe says a lot about him too. Come to think of it nevermind too has a baby surrounded by fluid.
Really enjoyed this. More of this sort of thing, please!
Any progress I've made as a guitar player has been trying to play or sound like my heroes, getting it wrong, and thinking 'oh, I like that. That's mine now'.
@jhspedals Guys for the solo of Heart-shape Box check out the original Albini MIX, it show the original tone of the solo with full "tremolo" sound, they reduce it in the REMIX of this song.
ua-cam.com/video/bGocxUFAID8/v-deo.htmlsi=Fif8HaAhs4psiBKY&t=410 I just use a very strong tremolo with fuzz or big muff whatever maybe a fuzz with bias control for gating dying out effect at the end in the sustaining note ..
this was dope, keep them coming!
Get in a time machine and go back to the grunge era! Hopefully this is more right on than the Radiohead one (was close but not quite). Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Ah!! magnifico!! Video, thanks. Sometimes, it is hard to find ppl that share the same passion for music. Bravo 👏
Loved the video! The only thing I feel it was missing from the In Utero era would have been the crazy sounds in Radio Friendly Unit Shifter, which I believe were achieved through the Poly Chorus
Thanks for doing this video Josh.
The layered guitars and tone on Nevermind were really influenced by Vig's work with the Pumpkins. Check Billy Corgan's interview with Rick Beato.
Corgan is a pompous DICK who thinks EVERYONE copied him! 😂 pass
Honestly, Kurt (likely) would have done the same thing. He was known, and I’ve seen on live footage, approaching lead almost lackadaisical, more at spur of the moment. LOVE the video! Hats off for doing this!
Josh: "We focused on the affordable"
Also Josh: *Immediately brings out a Kemper
Sub a line 6 pod go on a budget.
This is always so much fun! I think people forget about studio trickery when they’re trying to replicate guitar tones. That’s the whole point of getting a good producer and studio, creating those layers.
Nice looking guitar..
I’m very pleasantly surprised how close you hit. Good job guys! Respect for giving props to Austin. “AAAAH! I DON’T KNOW WHAT HE DID!” is living rent free in my head now, it’s too funny.
For Heart Shaped Box the solo was remixed after the fact. They recorded the song by Krist thought it could sound better but Kurt wouldn’t re-record it so it was edited and mixed afterwards, although I don’t remember by who though.
It was done during the sessions at Pachyderm. I’d love to hear Kurt’s original vision of it. I believe Krist quoted himself as calling the original solo an abortion.
@@nathanki1it’s easy to hear - it’s the Albini mix version. It’s on Spotify.
This was great! I really enjoy when you guys do this type of video. The radio head exploration you did was inspiring as well!
Everybody knocking on Kurt’s tuning, he was the one IN tune. Tuning affects the tone. The world would be a better place if bands would start tuning to School.