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Although the information on the Dominion war is pretty solid there is one thing wrong you said Shanzan was left to be a slave after the plan concerning him was abandoned He wasn't consigned to slavery he was in actually consigned to the dilithium mines of Remus and left to die but this was before he fought on the side of the remans in the Dominion war what happened to him between the end of the war and the assassination of the Romulan Senate is mostly unknown. I did notice that there was no mention of Reman involvement in the Dominion war in the video even though it was mentioned in Star Trek Nemesis that the Romulus used the Remans as frontline troops rather snarkerly refered to as cannon fodder.
@@jetfire1153red Shinzon? Well, if that's who you mean you're both right. The Remans, along with Shinzon after a regime change left his purpose unnecessary, were working the dilithium mines. As slave labor.
4 great super powers? Klingons, Romulans, Federation and ??? Dont tell me the Cardassians are a "super power" for you. They are at best a regional power. They got defeatet within days when the klingons only mobilized 1/3 of their fleet.
I dont see how the Cardassians can be considered a superpower 800 million dead I haven't see figures like that since the casualty list for earths third world war and that was only 600 million dead.
You mean to tell me that the pinnacle of science fiction- Star Trek discovery is nothing to you?! How dare you disregard Michael Burnham! I’m being facetious
Yeah and then ds9 ruins it with the stuff about the prophets. Like tbh the prophets are the weakest part of the ds9 story, im here for scifi discovery and navy stuff not sisko being bajoran jesus
Well, from early 2373 to late 2375 could be 3 years. But yes, while the Dominion was known about longer than that, and the starship Odyssey was destroyed earlier, the really big war didn't seriously start until later.
@The Geek Is Strong don’t expect Hollywood writers to use logic when making their scripts. I remember laughing out loud in disbelief when Damar cited losing 7 million people in the long war as justification to rebel. Umm, in the future with planetary systems that have populations in the billions, you’re upset over 7 million? Lol
@@1who4me He was upset that his race was treated as subjects that just got slaughtered in the millions bc Weyun couldn't be assed to manage the situation, while lying to him that he takes care of it. Weyun was basically acting openly hostile at that point and the season built up to that.
@@1who4me When political tensions are high, small thing can have an outsized effect on major decisions. Pearl Harbor, Army staff were concerned about spies and saboteurs so all aircraft not in active use or maintenance were parked together in large groups. When the Japanese went flying over they where able to destroy/cripple most of the aircraft. Rushing in replacements and extras took away much needed supplies from other parts of the Pacific theater.
“The Truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of Imagination” Bashir: They broke seven of your transverse ribs and fractured your clavicle! Garak: Ah, but I got off several cutting remarks which no doubt did serious damage to their egos. Bashir: Garak, this isn't funny. Garak: I'm serious, doctor! Thanks to your administrations, I'm almost completely healed, but the damage I did to them will last a lifetime. Garak was truly the hidden Gem of DS9
When you explain it so simply, this sounds like the greatest story plot ever told. With the pictures going on with this, I never realized the size, scope, or significance of DS9.
Nah, it's Star Trek in name only, written by guys obsessed with military sci fi and unable to explore real sci fi ideas so they just turned it into a dull war
Because of all the comments about the line "It's a Faaake!!!" After this video I went and watched the DS9 episode "In the Pale Moonlight and I must now say... This was literally one of the BEST Star Trek Episodes of ANY series!... That speech when sisko said "Entire worlds are fighting for their lives, people are dying and yet here I am still arguing about the finer points of morality"... That was priceless and one of the best lines of any series.
As the episode ends with Sisko deciding he can live with what he did and ordering the computer to delete the entire log entry, I sat stunned at the brilliance of the entire episode. It was what you hope for when you turn on a television but so rarely get treated to.
Have you only just watched the episode, yes a classic, a real gem, maybe not the absolute best episode of all time, a few episodes from TNG, Enterprise, Discovery and Voyager would argue they were more entertaining but yes what a absorbing episode that was.
This is by far the most comprehensive and compact explanation of such a complex storyline. Lots of passion and time went into making this video for sure. Kudos and huge respect to the story writers of DS9 on the other hand. This video reminded me once again why DS9 was and is one my favourite shows: it's truly EPIC :). Thanks again @CivilizationEx . you won yourself another subscriber.
Elim Garak: The Third Option His influence on pivotal events of the war were so utterly unpredictable that even Bashir's infallible thinktank produced false results. Re-watching DS9 these days with a friend and growing more convinced that the real hero of the entire series was just a simple tailor.
Who the real hero of the Dominion War was is a toss-up between Elim Garak and the unknown strategic mastermind at Section 31 who made the decision to unleash the morphogenic virus on the Founders. Whoever it was, it was probably not Luther Sloan who seems to have only been a senior operative.
Nah, it's Star Trek in name only, written by guys obsessed with military sci fi and unable to explore real sci fi ideas so they just turned it into a dull war with bad writing
Crazy how even though I watched all of this almost 25 years ago, I still remember most of all these details and the episodes in which they occurred lol. Also, it’s very interesting now now upon retrospect, it all really does read like a history book lol. Impressive.
DS9 is without a doubt the greatest Star Trek media out there. A true galactic war with intricate details that genuinely keeps audiences on their seats. I wish, I really really wish, another such show is made in my lifetime.
Nah, it's Star Trek in name only, written by guys obsessed with military sci fi and unable to explore real sci fi ideas so they just turned it into a dull war
@@docsavage8640I'm not sure if you're trolling or not.. Real sci fi ideas include scenarios of war. They made a realistic war with multiple elements, tech advancments, espionage, and really showed the horror of conflict. Sci-fi isn't just utopias and paradise. What makes this not "real sci fi"?
The Federation is extremely lucky that the Borg didn't decide to press an attack during this time or even just after. Had they, the Federation and its allies wouldn't have stood a chance.
The Borg may have realized that the founders would have allied with the Alliance against them, seeing the Borg as a much greater threat. The Founder may have presumed there is no morality amongst the Borg to counter balance the solid's quest for power, only assimilation. Therefore it would be smarter for the Borg to wait it out and clean up afterwards. As well this is probably around the same time as the Borg's discovery of Species 8472 which occurred in … 2374 which is smack in the middle of the Dominion-Alliance conflict. Hey that kind of makes sense! LOL
@@Loafmeister Fair enough, but Species 8472 was in the Delta Quadrant. The Dominion War was in the Alpha and Beta quadrants. You'd also think that the Borg, with the collective intelligence of a thousand assimilated worlds, would learn to leave Species 8472 be, at least until they've assimilated the rest of the galaxy and used their technology and intelligence to find a way to beat them.
@@victorvance2573 It got way better!! I loved the ending. There were a few writing inconsistencies of who the Dominion were in the beginning and who in the Gamma Quadrant were aligned with them in the first few seasons (possibly the writers didn't plan out or have a idea yet of what kind of power they were going to be) but it made the reveal of the Changelings being the Dominion all the more shocking.
'In The Pale Moonlight'....simply the best episode of any Trek series ever made. It's last scene, with Sisko confronting Garak, is where, to me, Trek got to both it's darkest point, and also it's creative apex. The writers got it done that day. =)
I am taking my kids through the TNG and, eventually, DS9. We are currently in the early part of TNG season 3. How the "history" of the Federation and the alpha quadrant has developed is amazing. If I showed my kids this video it would definitely be surreal, given how "happy" the TNG universe is at the beginning.
@@tessierashpoolmg7776 Best source of income on the internet is equities trading. UA-camrs are at the mercy of Google, whom is at the mercy of the investors, whom are at the mercy of the traders, whom are at the mercy of the U.S. economy.
The one part that was missed was the most glorious last stand in Star Trek history. 1 old bird of prey vs 10 Dominion warships. The final battle of Kirk's nemesis, Kor the Dahar Master. This was a major blow to the Dominion war effort as it allowed General Martok, the greatest Klingon battle commander, to survive. Worf also survived because of Kor's bravery, thus ensuring that Martok would take over the Klingon Empire and assure a more cooperative alliance. I think we can all agree, that without Kor the Dahar Master, the war would have most likely been lost.
Wow this was amazing, Sisko is my favorite captain. This hefty lore dump lets me see how he fits in the star trek universe, thank you. I love how it summoned images from my memories of the show. "Oh yeah, I remember that" like it was a thing that happened. "It's a fake!" Very cool. First video of your I've seen, subbed.
And I so do not want to see him come back in NuTrek, which is just Kurtzman's Game of Thrones bad fanfiction and political platform, but he probably will - they won't want to be accused of being racist, despite bringing him in 20 years later after he vanished (which is what they will do) makes him into the very welfare queen Sisko was written as defiance to. He was a good dad. Under Kurtzman, a deadbeat father. Guarantee it.
I had never, *ever* given consideration to *any* Star Trek series until I met my wife. She insisted we go through DS9. It turned into that BG skit on Portlandia. I had some flex time I needed to use within the month. Took it, and over a week, we had a staycation and finished the series. From there, I watched every other series, then every movie. Some not some great, but most material amazing works of sci-fi. Still though, DS9 stands far ahead, possibly due in part to good memories with the Mrs, but assuredly in larger part to the awesomeness of the series. Thank you for this overview!!
Yes, DS9 really stands out. I love every Star Trek Series, but DS9 is not only great ST, not only great Sci-Fi, It's great television. The way it approaches themes the other series were afraid of touching like all out war is great. You're a lucky man to have someone to share the Trekkie passion with.
Wow. DS9 is my favorite Trek, I recorded it on VHS when it first aired, and I gotta say that this has been the most comprehensive video I've ever seen on the Dominion War. Thank you. I just subscribed.
@@tessierashpoolmg7776 Lol Yeah, one of my fantasies is building a supercomputer that would update all of B5's graphics to Battlestar Galactica standards.
DS9 may not be my favorite TV show, but it is my favorite Star Trek series & it is among my favorite TV shows. Hey, have you ever watched "The Expanse"? It's on Amazon Prime. It's actually a very good space themed sci-fi series.
deep space 9 was the first star trek show I've ever watched , just finished it a few weeks ago and I immediately restarted the series. it starts off slow but once the dominion enter the show it really takes off. Truly a great show and has become one of my new favorites.
Has anyone ever wondered which constellations the other empires would appear in as seen from Earth? We know that the galactic core is in Saggitarius, so it seems to me that if you look at the galactic map, assuming that Earth was in the bottom in the Alpha quadrant, close to the Beta quadrant border, then: The Klingons would be in the Virgo area The Romulans would be in either Libra or Scorpio The Bajorans would be somewhere between Cassiopeia and Perseus The Cardassians would be in Cygnus But that's just me. I always wonder about weird little things like that.
@Cian McCabe one of the big problems with discussions like this is that track does not seem to give us reliable maps in any Canon sources. What maps have been provided in various books and stuff directly contradict many lines in the shows. For example, in "in the pale moonlight" they are talking about how Dominion chips are crossing through romulan territory to attack the federation behind their lines, but in this map (which is very similar to most naps that I see people using) that couldn't be possible considering where romulan space is compared to Dominion space... Unless they had taken enough territory in between, but if they had cut off such a large chunk of the federation for the rest that presumably would have been brought up in dialogue at some point...not to mention that the federation pretty much loses the war immediately at that point.
@@micfail2 I think it would be fair for it to be something like this, but three dimensional, with the Romulon empire and Klingon empire kind of wrapping around the top/bottom
holy moly that's a lot of information to pack in the video 25 minutes long but great job man!! Brilliant story! Thank you for the explanation of everything.
I really enjoy your vids and this one was fantastic. I’m a huge Star Trek fan and always loved DS9! This video should be everyone’s go to video when trying to explain the Dominion War. It’s the best explanation breakdown that I’ve seen of the Dominion War! Excellent job and thank you!
You know what’s crazy about the Dominion? They were almost completely untouched by the fighting. After losing their ships in the worm hole, they still brought the Federation, Klingons, and Romulans to their knees using ONLY secondary Alpha quadrant powers. If the Dominion truly wanted to, it could crush every Alpha and Beta quadrant power in an instant if it were using its own ships and resources and brought its full military might to bear against them.
True but their specialty was to infiltrate and weaken powers by using their changeling's powers direct fighting was not their something they liked. They have been conquering planets for thousands of years with those methods they saw no need to change their methods.
@@negativezero2221 and they are terrible at management they only have any control cause of there loyal slave pets in addition there very hands off and well not dumb but predictable changling countermeasures are already prepped before they could get a second wave so yeah there tough but porice that's a good way of putting it
To use an Earth example, it would be like the U.S. leaving the middle east because the fores stationed there at this moment were defeated. Still the world hegemon everywhere else. Seeing the Dominion fight at full strength would be crazy
One thing I never understood about when the federation pulled out of DS9 is why O'Brian never let the "pup" loose on the station to undermine the occupation force's attempts to run the station. Granted, it would've been the fault of the writers for forgetting about it, but as a strategy it would've been ideal - particularly if the Bajorans on the station covered up for the pup program.
Great review of the Dominion War. The writers took a chance doing this on DS9 and not making it just two episodes but span the rest of the series. It was a prescience in television and changed it for all time. The Star Trek writers today wish they could come up with something this good. I just wish we would’ve known more about how the Cardassians adjust after the series was over and what happened with Wolf’s brother.
This was well written, and well narrated. That said what I took away from the dominion war is what I take away from war itself. They killed billions of people to return to where they started.
Star trek is what i watch when im having a horrible day ( which has been almost everyday since August ).. there's just something about , a sort of escapism that i dont get with any other media.
Thank you so much for doing this! I forgot so many things from the Dominion War story. I remember enjoying the episodes back in the day, but it has been so long since I had watched them.
12:10 Sisko wasn't doing a last stand to take out as many ships as possible, he was planning from the moment the mine field was destroyed to destroy the wormhole (and him in it) to stop all re-enforcement.
Well done. I initially thought I wouldn't watch it unless there were clips from DSN and even then it would have to be good to take up 25 minutes of my time. But as soon as I started watching it, the time flowed fast and before I knew it, it was over. Thank you. Coincidentally my son is now rewatching all of DSN and when I visited him - he was watching "Pale Moonlight" and it was the first time I had seen it since the original broadcast.
DS9 has always been my favorite Trek Series- It wasn't until 2011 when I re-watched the entire series (got it on DVD) that I realized Ronald Moore was one of the main showrunners and writers- basically DS9 was a test run for many themes that would shape the updated Battlestar Galactica
Terrific summary! With so much plot information to condense it is great to see this presented so well. If there is ever revised version, however, please include a mention of the raid by the Defiant early in the war that destroyed the secret Dominion Sensor Array in the Argolis Cluster. It’s use by the Dominion was pivotal to their early victories in the war giving them surveillance coverage over 5 sectors and what allowed them to turn back the Federation-Klingon Alliance initial counterattacks.
Roddenberry originally wanted Betazoids to have six breast, but was talked out of it. Now if that idea was brought back in another species, the make up and prosthetics department are going to have their work cut out for them. Makes coating starlets in green body paint seem easy.
Well if it was like game of thrones that would basically be the Terran Empire they all suffer from chronic backstabbing disorder and are just horrible i mean they invented the agony booth and not to really torture people for information so much as to just torture people for the hell of it
Alien Tits and Ass seems pleasing at first until you realize that not all species have their sex "amenities" in the same location. An extrapolated quote from a line from Dr. McCoy to Captain James T. Kirk when they were stranded on the mining penal colony after the Klingons held them in criminal court. Movie? Yeah I'm not sure which one it was.
Kind of terrifying that the Dominion were able to achieve this level of destruction with just the initial attack force. If they'd had the reinforcement line with the Gamma quadrant they would rolled the entire Alpha and Beta quadrants.
Very captivating! I'm not a huge Star Trek fan but I love TNG and DS9, which are the two I mostly watch, however I never really connected all the events together as I would catch episodes whenever I could, so thank you for this. I very much greatly appreciated this video, and it's also made me want to binge watch the TNG and DS9 series.
BEST season of DS9. @12:27 "Stop those ships!!" - classic line. @16:42 - I doubt Picard or even would've let that slide. This made me respect Sisko even more.
Ds9's episodes interconnected with previous episodes a lot, which lets the storylines build up. TNG's episodes were more independant of each other and each focused a lot on their themes/lessons.
I mean they was on a cardassian station I dont think cardassians liked bright light. lthough I would assume the federation would have installed their own to adjust.
Easily. If you go back to season 2, it literally took over 5 seasons but everything had continuity. It's something Trek has struggled with before and after....and other than most of TNG, DS9 was easily the best written of the franchise shows.
I love DS9 and this is wonderfully put together. You really nailed the context going into the war. This is what I would show someone unfamiliar with star trek if I had to explain the dominion war.
Makes total sense. You don't want your flagship on the front lines, if they are destroyed it would be a devastating blow to moral across the Federation as well as losing one of your best ships. Better to use the Flagship of the Federation as a show of strength when engaging in diplomacy with other empires. Remember, the Federation was desperately looking for support during the war, so much so they even allowed a race that had only just developed warp drive into the Federation. Picard is much better at diplomacy than any other Captain, so best to use him and his ship for what he is best at. The Enterprise is just too valuable an assets to risk losing on the front lines.
As someone with only a passing remembrance or experience of many of the older / real StarTrek Original & Canon series, this was much appreciated. (I've seen a fair bit of TNG and TOS it's not 100%, with less of DSN.)
@@lynxharpthorn7764in all fairness Voyager had some well written episodes - primarily around the Doctor but other stand alone episodes, "Blink of an Eye" for one. It's a shame that Voyager did not do more multi-episodes stories or the good episodes would have been great!
@@castojr9704 Yeah. I really liked many of the doctor heavy episodes. And the "year of hell" was pretty good. My favorite Trek is Ds9. People say that it was darker but I just remember a lot of voyager episodes being crazy dark. Like when the doctor loses his daughter for the sake of realness, or when the entire voyager ship is actually that weird copy-cat organism thing, where they dissipate before being able to talk to the real voyager. Almost too dark
@@lynxharpthorn7764 I actually forgot about those darker Voyager episodes - yeah they were disturbing which is what made them more impactful - but yes almost certainly too dark! Year of Hell was nicely done ( excellent casting ). DS9 is my fav Trek too! I think that the character of Garak had the most interesting episodes. Also the battle scenes during the Dominion War were spectacular - sometimes I just watch those episodes just for the special effects.
Great job very well done. Thank you for your comprehensive breakdown and by including many details made it an exemplary dissertation. Really enjoyed it especially the quote from the spy. Really excellent!
This is pretty good overall, although like Garak in the series, it ignores that Senator Vreenak and the criminal were not the only two to die in that situation: so did Vreenak's guards/aides/pilot/etc. Also, I don't remember any mention of Section 31 and the morphogenic virus disease affecting the Founders, until the mention of Odo curing the Female Founder. And it turned out that the Prophets hadn't merely "accepted" Sisko as their "Emissary:" They had actually created him to start with, just for that purpose. And also, there was no mention of the Pah Wraiths throughout the whole thing.
One of my favorite Star Trek characters was Garak. Everything he said was a lie so much of what he said was true. I used to think little of Sisko but he has risen in my estimation over the years.
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Although the information on the Dominion war is pretty solid there is one thing wrong you said Shanzan was left to be a slave after the plan concerning him was abandoned He wasn't consigned to slavery he was in actually consigned to the dilithium mines of Remus and left to die but this was before he fought on the side of the remans in the Dominion war what happened to him between the end of the war and the assassination of the Romulan Senate is mostly unknown.
I did notice that there was no mention of Reman involvement in the Dominion war in the video even though it was mentioned in Star Trek Nemesis that the Romulus used the Remans as frontline troops rather snarkerly refered to as cannon fodder.
@@jetfire1153red Shinzon? Well, if that's who you mean you're both right. The Remans, along with Shinzon after a regime change left his purpose unnecessary, were working the dilithium mines. As slave labor.
4 great super powers? Klingons, Romulans, Federation and ???
Dont tell me the Cardassians are a "super power" for you. They are at best a regional power. They got defeatet within days when the klingons only mobilized 1/3 of their fleet.
I dont see how the Cardassians can be considered a superpower 800 million dead I haven't see figures like that since the casualty list for earths third world war and that was only 600 million dead.
16:41 You’ve wanted to do that Garak impression forever, haven’t you? 😊
lol I didn't plan it, but when I was recording I just couldn't help myself.
After encountering Tay on some weirdo ASMR massage videos why am I not surprised he's here too hahahha
@@CivilizationExI don't blame you.
It's such a delicious bit of voice acting from Robinson!
Sounds like a bad dracula
No matter how hard they might try, Star Trek will never produce anything as epic as the Dominion War on DS9.
You mean to tell me that the pinnacle of science fiction- Star Trek discovery is nothing to you?! How dare you disregard Michael Burnham!
I’m being facetious
Yeah and then ds9 ruins it with the stuff about the prophets. Like tbh the prophets are the weakest part of the ds9 story, im here for scifi discovery and navy stuff not sisko being bajoran jesus
They had the chance to do something similar with the temporal war in Enterprise, but it was cut short and ended up dull.
@@blunk778 discovery is trash
@@blunk778 yeah plus a lot of this story feels awfully familiar (side eye glances over to Babylon 5)
You forgot that time Chief O'Brien tore his pants. Major turning point in the war.
Collyn Marsh He didn’t want to dwell on a time we were really in trouble.
Some events are just too horrific to revisit
"O'Brien must suffer!"
Collyn Marsh, 😂 after all that information, yours is the funniest and least expected of comments.
Dont forget his name is Miles Edward O'Brien. He's very much alive and plans on staying that way.
Wow, the whole Dominion War lasted just two years? That's incredible. What an amazing, action-packed series.
Well, from early 2373 to late 2375 could be 3 years. But yes, while the Dominion was known about longer than that, and the starship Odyssey was destroyed earlier, the really big war didn't seriously start until later.
@The Geek Is Strong only 200,000 Klingons? Seems too low.
@The Geek Is Strong don’t expect Hollywood writers to use logic when making their scripts. I remember laughing out loud in disbelief when Damar cited losing 7 million people in the long war as justification to rebel. Umm, in the future with planetary systems that have populations in the billions, you’re upset over 7 million? Lol
@@1who4me He was upset that his race was treated as subjects that just got slaughtered in the millions bc Weyun couldn't be assed to manage the situation, while lying to him that he takes care of it. Weyun was basically acting openly hostile at that point and the season built up to that.
@@1who4me When political tensions are high, small thing can have an outsized effect on major decisions. Pearl Harbor, Army staff were concerned about spies and saboteurs so all aircraft not in active use or maintenance were parked together in large groups. When the Japanese went flying over they where able to destroy/cripple most of the aircraft. Rushing in replacements and extras took away much needed supplies from other parts of the Pacific theater.
Excellent video! My only concern is you mis-portray plain simple Garak, a humble tailor.
Odo: "You'd shoot a man in the back!?"
Humble Tailor: "It's the safest way, isn't it?"
I was going to thumb you up, but I left it at *31* ...
@@Sgt_Glory I see what you did there, but Doctor Bashir is having a full-blown panic attack.
“The Truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of Imagination”
Bashir: They broke seven of your transverse ribs and fractured your clavicle!
Garak: Ah, but I got off several cutting remarks which no doubt did serious damage to their egos.
Bashir: Garak, this isn't funny.
Garak: I'm serious, doctor! Thanks to your administrations, I'm almost completely healed, but the damage I did to them will last a lifetime.
Garak was truly the hidden Gem of DS9
You're right man. Those rumors about his being a ruthless former spy are pure poppycock.
When you explain it so simply, this sounds like the greatest story plot ever told. With the pictures going on with this, I never realized the size, scope, or significance of DS9.
I never realized I missed so much not watching DS9.
Nah, it's Star Trek in name only, written by guys obsessed with military sci fi and unable to explore real sci fi ideas so they just turned it into a dull war
@@docsavage8640L take
Because of all the comments about the line "It's a Faaake!!!" After this video I went and watched the DS9 episode "In the Pale Moonlight and I must now say...
This was literally one of the BEST Star Trek Episodes of ANY series!... That speech when sisko said "Entire worlds are fighting for their lives, people are dying and yet here I am still arguing about the finer points of morality"... That was priceless and one of the best lines of any series.
That was some talented writing and acting. Especially from Andrew J Robinson and Avery Brooks.
As the episode ends with Sisko deciding he can live with what he did and ordering the computer to delete the entire log entry, I sat stunned at the brilliance of the entire episode. It was what you hope for when you turn on a television but so rarely get treated to.
Every man has his price...
Have you only just watched the episode, yes a classic, a real gem, maybe not the absolute best episode of all time, a few episodes from TNG, Enterprise, Discovery and Voyager would argue they were more entertaining but yes what a absorbing episode that was.
Sisko danced with the devil in the pale moonlight in this episode (perhaps the writers were watching "Batman" when they came up with the title).
Damn, this makes me want to watch DS9 all over again. Well done sir.
That's exactly what it is making me do.
Came here to say the same thing. Time to rewatch DS9.
And I wanted to ask someone, if all of this happened in DS9? (which, apart from a few random episodes, I have not watched)
Same here. I am going to since this year is the 30th anniversary of DS9.
I freaking love DS9
Bashir, Garak, and O’Brien were true gems
This is by far the most comprehensive and compact explanation of such a complex storyline. Lots of passion and time went into making this video for sure.
Kudos and huge respect to the story writers of DS9 on the other hand. This video reminded me once again why DS9 was and is one my favourite shows: it's truly EPIC :).
Thanks again @CivilizationEx . you won yourself another subscriber.
I loved Sisco for his balls to the wall speech to the wormhole gods. It was one of the finest moments ever placed on screen.
Prophet: "The Sisko is angry..."
Ben: "Woman, you haven't SEEN angry yet..."
Well-executed, but dumb. Space Magic wins the war, lame.
@DrownedInExile it helped, but the mortals still had to do leg work
It's terrible writing when you literally need a deus ex machina to get you out of the corner you wrote yourself into
Elim Garak: The Third Option
His influence on pivotal events of the war were so utterly unpredictable that even Bashir's infallible thinktank produced false results.
Re-watching DS9 these days with a friend and growing more convinced that the real hero of the entire series was just a simple tailor.
Who the real hero of the Dominion War was is a toss-up between Elim Garak and the unknown strategic mastermind at Section 31 who made the decision to unleash the morphogenic virus on the Founders.
Whoever it was, it was probably not Luther Sloan who seems to have only been a senior operative.
I love that guy
it took complex thinking and creativity to write this series. it is as detailed as any real war in history. wow.
Nah, it's Star Trek in name only, written by guys obsessed with military sci fi and unable to explore real sci fi ideas so they just turned it into a dull war with bad writing
Crazy how even though I watched all of this almost 25 years ago, I still remember most of all these details and the episodes in which they occurred lol. Also, it’s very interesting now now upon retrospect, it all really does read like a history book lol. Impressive.
DS9 is without a doubt the greatest Star Trek media out there. A true galactic war with intricate details that genuinely keeps audiences on their seats. I wish, I really really wish, another such show is made in my lifetime.
Nah, it's Star Trek in name only, written by guys obsessed with military sci fi and unable to explore real sci fi ideas so they just turned it into a dull war
@@docsavage8640I'm not sure if you're trolling or not.. Real sci fi ideas include scenarios of war. They made a realistic war with multiple elements, tech advancments, espionage, and really showed the horror of conflict. Sci-fi isn't just utopias and paradise. What makes this not "real sci fi"?
The Federation is extremely lucky that the Borg didn't decide to press an attack during this time or even just after. Had they, the Federation and its allies wouldn't have stood a chance.
The Borg may have realized that the founders would have allied with the Alliance against them, seeing the Borg as a much greater threat. The Founder may have presumed there is no morality amongst the Borg to counter balance the solid's quest for power, only assimilation. Therefore it would be smarter for the Borg to wait it out and clean up afterwards. As well this is probably around the same time as the Borg's discovery of Species 8472 which occurred in … 2374 which is smack in the middle of the Dominion-Alliance conflict.
Hey that kind of makes sense! LOL
@@Loafmeister Fair enough, but Species 8472 was in the Delta Quadrant. The Dominion War was in the Alpha and Beta quadrants. You'd also think that the Borg, with the collective intelligence of a thousand assimilated worlds, would learn to leave Species 8472 be, at least until they've assimilated the rest of the galaxy and used their technology and intelligence to find a way to beat them.
@@furioussherman7265 Why do you think they had the option?. Here is a hint, they had no such luxury.
When did "First Contact occur? Worf was on board the Defiant, and in "Insurrection" Worf was back on Enterprise.
Furious Sherman Remember the movie First Contact Happens during the Dominion war, with Worf in command of the Defiant.
As a Star Trek fan it took me years to realize the Kardashians were a bunch of spoiled ladies on TV and not an alien race.
Keeping up with the Cardassians would be a great show about the tailor Garak
@@TheSoda21 Faaaaacts they are all shady and petty, would make excellent TV.
@@elenapederson1862 I'd watch that show for sure.
I had to read this 5 times and then google it to figure out what the hell you were talking about.
@@Moonwired you know someone’s a true fan when YOU’RE a fan and it still sounds like they’re speaking gibberish
I’m just into the 2nd season of Deep Space 9 and I am loving it. What an incredible series.
Now 8 months later i guess you already realized it got even better.
Just got my hands on the series boxset
@@victorvance2573 It got way better!! I loved the ending. There were a few writing inconsistencies of who the Dominion were in the beginning and who in the Gamma Quadrant were aligned with them in the first few seasons (possibly the writers didn't plan out or have a idea yet of what kind of power they were going to be) but it made the reveal of the Changelings being the Dominion all the more shocking.
gets better when someone in season 4 turns up
@@leebee5521 yup when I saw him I was like “oh shit. Goody”
'In The Pale Moonlight'....simply the best episode of any Trek series ever made. It's last scene, with Sisko confronting Garak, is where, to me, Trek got to both it's darkest point, and also it's creative apex. The writers got it done that day. =)
Agreed.
The episode showed that this was war, and no one keeps their hands clean.
DS9 was episode for episode the best Trek series.
Excellent video, but I did notice a factual error:
15:24 Elim Garak is clearly just a tailor, not a former spy
But he was a former gardener right?
Best comment ever
and a very good tailor at that.
LOL....
a Humble tailor
This is why DS9 is the best. Its Game of Thrones in space. Love it.
I was thinking that too! You could imagine DS9 is Castle Black, the wormhole is the tunnel through the wall and the Dominion are the white walkers.
1- DS9 was first.
2- DS9 was better.
@@tananari47 GoT released in 1996. DS9 released in 1999.
@@LAHFaust GoT didn't come out 'till 2011, chief.
Ds9 is much better, but that's just my opinion.
I am taking my kids through the TNG and, eventually, DS9. We are currently in the early part of TNG season 3. How the "history" of the Federation and the alpha quadrant has developed is amazing. If I showed my kids this video it would definitely be surreal, given how "happy" the TNG universe is at the beginning.
As berman became the killer of Gene's vision of the Federation, to establish HIS version that was built on the shoulders of giants.
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@@whitedevil550 Brave.
@@whitedevil550 hows that working out for you? lol
"Computer, erase that entire personal log."
"In pale moonlight" ?
The being removed them all in wormhole? O.o sounds convenient
@@quarreneverett4767 I'll do the same so :D
Good scene.
The Best episode of all the series, period......
The one part that was missed was the most glorious last stand in Star Trek history. 1 old bird of prey vs 10 Dominion warships. The final battle of Kirk's nemesis, Kor the Dahar Master. This was a major blow to the Dominion war effort as it allowed General Martok, the greatest Klingon battle commander, to survive. Worf also survived because of Kor's bravery, thus ensuring that Martok would take over the Klingon Empire and assure a more cooperative alliance. I think we can all agree, that without Kor the Dahar Master, the war would have most likely been lost.
Yes, they probably should have mentioned Kor too.
Songs will be sung of this day
Once more unto the breech!
Cold shivers from your recap of "In the Pale Moonlight"
Sisko is my favorite captain
Once again, props on your take on Garak and his speech patterns
so heres the deal. i read your comment and farted. only it turned into a shart. are u gonna reimburse me for my ruined pants or not?
Yay, you noticed too!
Part of me wants to giggle at the crude artwork, but then you take a closer look and they're all quite accurate drawings of the characters.
That's what made Garek a great tailor. He sees how it fits together
Never seen it from that point! Thanks!
Wow this was amazing, Sisko is my favorite captain. This hefty lore dump lets me see how he fits in the star trek universe, thank you. I love how it summoned images from my memories of the show. "Oh yeah, I remember that" like it was a thing that happened. "It's a fake!" Very cool. First video of your I've seen, subbed.
This is one of my favorite startrek ep. an in my opinion has the coolest name ever in any startrek ep. "In the Pale Moonlight"
And I so do not want to see him come back in NuTrek, which is just Kurtzman's Game of Thrones bad fanfiction and political platform, but he probably will - they won't want to be accused of being racist, despite bringing him in 20 years later after he vanished (which is what they will do) makes him into the very welfare queen Sisko was written as defiance to. He was a good dad. Under Kurtzman, a deadbeat father. Guarantee it.
@@saberiandream316 I have not seen Pickard, is it really that awful?
I had never, *ever* given consideration to *any* Star Trek series until I met my wife. She insisted we go through DS9. It turned into that BG skit on Portlandia. I had some flex time I needed to use within the month. Took it, and over a week, we had a staycation and finished the series.
From there, I watched every other series, then every movie. Some not some great, but most material amazing works of sci-fi.
Still though, DS9 stands far ahead, possibly due in part to good memories with the Mrs, but assuredly in larger part to the awesomeness of the series.
Thank you for this overview!!
...rub it in why don't you!!! 😋
Yes, DS9 really stands out. I love every Star Trek Series, but DS9 is not only great ST, not only great Sci-Fi, It's great television. The way it approaches themes the other series were afraid of touching like all out war is great. You're a lucky man to have someone to share the Trekkie passion with.
@@olavops1000 Absolutely!!!
@@thegreatbamboozler4837 LOL! This is Wifey 2.0 - there apparently was some kind of bug in the original model.
@@thatpart HA!!!! Prototypes hardly ever work out well do they? Just ask Data about his good brother Lor! :)
Wow. DS9 is my favorite Trek, I recorded it on VHS when it first aired, and I gotta say that this has been the most comprehensive video I've ever seen on the Dominion War. Thank you. I just subscribed.
Because it tells one coherent epic over years instead of stand alone episodes. Like Babylon 5, which you seem to enjoy as well.
@@tessierashpoolmg7776 Lol Yeah, one of my fantasies is building a supercomputer that would update all of B5's graphics to Battlestar Galactica standards.
As someone whose favorite TV show of all time is DS9, I was excited to see this video in my suggested feed. It did not disappoint. Thanks for sharing.
DS9 may not be my favorite TV show, but it is my favorite Star Trek series & it is among my favorite TV shows. Hey, have you ever watched "The Expanse"? It's on Amazon Prime. It's actually a very good space themed sci-fi series.
DS9 is my favorite show too!
deep space 9 was the first star trek show I've ever watched , just finished it a few weeks ago and I immediately restarted the series. it starts off slow but once the dominion enter the show it really takes off. Truly a great show and has become one of my new favorites.
I love Garak, my favorite character anywhere on anything. He’s so awesome, he definitely knows about being a spy, I mean a tailor.
And a gardener
@@lordvadertheleftie9703 any deaths that occurred while he was working there were purely coincidental.
But doesn't like enclosed spaces.
15:45 it's a faaaake
A gem hidden in a mountain of treasure
This upload is fantastic - I got to relive 7 years of compressed nostalgia in 25 minutes.
Now we're going to add some fluffy clouds with a just a bit of Ketrecil huwhite.
This was great. I just watched every episode of DS9 in 25 minutes!
Seriously love this show.. seasons 3-6 were just fn good!
So much knowledge packed in as efficiently as possible, this is why I love Civilization Ex.
Has anyone ever wondered which constellations the other empires would appear in as seen from Earth? We know that the galactic core is in Saggitarius, so it seems to me that if you look at the galactic map, assuming that Earth was in the bottom in the Alpha quadrant, close to the Beta quadrant border, then:
The Klingons would be in the Virgo area
The Romulans would be in either Libra or Scorpio
The Bajorans would be somewhere between Cassiopeia and Perseus
The Cardassians would be in Cygnus
But that's just me. I always wonder about weird little things like that.
I can't, by any means, answer this, but I must congratulate you for this insight!
I was seriously just wondering where abouts each group lived! This is great lol
@Cian McCabe one of the big problems with discussions like this is that track does not seem to give us reliable maps in any Canon sources. What maps have been provided in various books and stuff directly contradict many lines in the shows. For example, in "in the pale moonlight" they are talking about how Dominion chips are crossing through romulan territory to attack the federation behind their lines, but in this map (which is very similar to most naps that I see people using) that couldn't be possible considering where romulan space is compared to Dominion space... Unless they had taken enough territory in between, but if they had cut off such a large chunk of the federation for the rest that presumably would have been brought up in dialogue at some point...not to mention that the federation pretty much loses the war immediately at that point.
@@micfail2 I think it would be fair for it to be something like this, but three dimensional, with the Romulon empire and Klingon empire kind of wrapping around the top/bottom
@@jetison333 great point
holy moly that's a lot of information to pack in the video 25 minutes long but great job man!!
Brilliant story!
Thank you for the explanation of everything.
I really enjoy your vids and this one was fantastic. I’m a huge Star Trek fan and always loved DS9! This video should be everyone’s go to video when trying to explain the Dominion War. It’s the best explanation breakdown that I’ve seen of the Dominion War! Excellent job and thank you!
The best thing about the Klingons... They always seem to show up when you need them.
Even if late.
Great video man. You did a great job channelling Garak in his speech to Sisko. I've watched that episode 100 times and it never gets old.
Dear "this video"
I don't know how or why you ended up in my suggestions but I am glad you did.
You know what’s crazy about the Dominion? They were almost completely untouched by the fighting. After losing their ships in the worm hole, they still brought the Federation, Klingons, and Romulans to their knees using ONLY secondary Alpha quadrant powers.
If the Dominion truly wanted to, it could crush every Alpha and Beta quadrant power in an instant if it were using its own ships and resources and brought its full military might to bear against them.
That's what a genetically engineered army can do for you.
True but their specialty was to infiltrate and weaken powers by using their changeling's powers direct fighting was not their something they liked. They have been conquering planets for thousands of years with those methods they saw no need to change their methods.
@@negativezero2221 and they are terrible at management they only have any control cause of there loyal slave pets in addition there very hands off and well not dumb but predictable changling countermeasures are already prepped before they could get a second wave so yeah there tough but porice that's a good way of putting it
To use an Earth example, it would be like the U.S. leaving the middle east because the fores stationed there at this moment were defeated. Still the world hegemon everywhere else.
Seeing the Dominion fight at full strength would be crazy
One thing I never understood about when the federation pulled out of DS9 is why O'Brian never let the "pup" loose on the station to undermine the occupation force's attempts to run the station.
Granted, it would've been the fault of the writers for forgetting about it, but as a strategy it would've been ideal - particularly if the Bajorans on the station covered up for the pup program.
Honestly I think the writers just forgot about Pup
Great review of the Dominion War. The writers took a chance doing this on DS9 and not making it just two episodes but span the rest of the series. It was a prescience in television and changed it for all time. The Star Trek writers today wish they could come up with something this good. I just wish we would’ve known more about how the Cardassians adjust after the series was over and what happened with Wolf’s brother.
That's WORF!!
This was well written, and well narrated. That said what I took away from the dominion war is what I take away from war itself. They killed billions of people to return to where they started.
Star trek is what i watch when im having a horrible day ( which has been almost everyday since August ).. there's just something about , a sort of escapism that i dont get with any other media.
Thank you so much for doing this! I forgot so many things from the Dominion War story. I remember enjoying the episodes back in the day, but it has been so long since I had watched them.
15:25 *a simple tailor
@@hagrid1123 the crimson bolt from the 2010 movie super.
He was an amazing Little Finger Like character That I loved in the show.
@Ellisar Atranimus , THEY LIVE IN DIFFERENT SETTINGS I AGREE, BUT THEY PLAY SIMILAR ROLES.
12:10 Sisko wasn't doing a last stand to take out as many ships as possible, he was planning from the moment the mine field was destroyed to destroy the wormhole (and him in it) to stop all re-enforcement.
Nice job. This was a fun way to re-live 4 of my favorite seasons of TV.
It always vexed me to no end that the Founders could evade and fool all the telepathic species in the federation.
Having only recently watched DS9 - this video brought so much closure and satisfaction.
This. This why I gave you a thumbs up and became a subscriber. As a fan of DS9, I love this video! Well done!
I just finished the entire series, took a while but i didn't want to skip or not pay attention to eps. so good.
Every time I rewatch start trek my GF teases me and asks " are you watching the episode where the Kardashians invade".
Well done. I initially thought I wouldn't watch it unless there were clips from DSN and even then it would have to be good to take up 25 minutes of my time. But as soon as I started watching it, the time flowed fast and before I knew it, it was over. Thank you. Coincidentally my son is now rewatching all of DSN and when I visited him - he was watching "Pale Moonlight" and it was the first time I had seen it since the original broadcast.
I like that out of fear, the founders acted out the exact behaviour solid species were worried about millennia prior
DS9 has always been my favorite Trek Series- It wasn't until 2011 when I re-watched the entire series (got it on DVD) that I realized Ronald Moore was one of the main showrunners and writers- basically DS9 was a test run for many themes that would shape the updated Battlestar Galactica
It's always a delight when I come across something new and interesting. Love what you have done and it makes me want to watch DS9.
Dang, having watched the whole series that was a pretty good cliffs notes. In the Pale Moonlight is such an amazing episode.
15:05 IN THE PALE MOONLIGHT!!
Best episode of Trek - all of them - ever.
And ironically, the "darkest" episode of Classic Star Trek pales (pun intended!) next to Kurtzman's Game of Thrones NuTrek.
@@saberiandream316 ST:D just arrived on Netflix in my country and I'm tempted to ironically try to watch it.
@@Gredddfe make sure you have a lot of alcohol on hand your going to need it
Almost 200k let's gooo!!! You earned it man! I hope you're able to reach it before next year, a nice Christmas present. 👍☺
Who else is here because we wanted to hear something about dominion that was well researched and not being juggled like a hot potato by the press
Terrific summary! With so much plot information to condense it is great to see this presented so well. If there is ever revised version, however, please include a mention of the raid by the Defiant early in the war that destroyed the secret Dominion Sensor Array in the Argolis Cluster. It’s use by the Dominion was pivotal to their early victories in the war giving them surveillance coverage over 5 sectors and what allowed them to turn back the Federation-Klingon Alliance initial counterattacks.
The founders are truly frightening enemies.
Imagine fighting them, they could be anyone!
Those Garak inflexions in his quote were very well executed man!
Could you imagine if HBO did a Star Trek series in the vein of Game of Thrones. Imagine all the alien T & A. It would be glorious.
Roddenberry originally wanted Betazoids to have six breast, but was talked out of it. Now if that idea was brought back in another species, the make up and prosthetics department are going to have their work cut out for them. Makes coating starlets in green body paint seem easy.
Well if it was like game of thrones that would basically be the Terran Empire they all suffer from chronic backstabbing disorder and are just horrible i mean they invented the agony booth and not to really torture people for information so much as to just torture people for the hell of it
Alien Tits and Ass seems pleasing at first until you realize that not all species have their sex "amenities" in the same location. An extrapolated quote from a line from Dr. McCoy to Captain James T. Kirk when they were stranded on the mining penal colony after the Klingons held them in criminal court. Movie? Yeah I'm not sure which one it was.
@@SlowPCGaming1 The Undiscovered Country
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Those guys shouldn't do Muay Thai …
Yeah, I think that alien in Star Trek The Undiscovered Country had his balls on his knees.
Kind of terrifying that the Dominion were able to achieve this level of destruction with just the initial attack force. If they'd had the reinforcement line with the Gamma quadrant they would rolled the entire Alpha and Beta quadrants.
This was a great episode. Please do a what if episode that has the Dominion win the war.
Very captivating!
I'm not a huge Star Trek fan but I love TNG and DS9, which are the two I mostly watch, however I never really connected all the events together as I would catch episodes whenever I could, so thank you for this.
I very much greatly appreciated this video, and it's also made me want to binge watch the TNG and DS9 series.
15:43 "It's a faaaaaake!" Oh, you.
"IT'S A TRAP!!!!!"
I'm just impressed that you managed to say "The Frostfang Tickler" with a straight face.
Imagine if the immortal shapeshifters took their time, over 200 years, with throwing the powers at each other and sowing chaos.
Wow! This was really helpful. Of course watching an episode by episode gives you lots of subtlety. This is great for the big picture!!
Good video thanks for sharing
Thank you for this video. DS9 was my favorite star trek series and sisko was my favorite captain. Brings back memories
BEST season of DS9. @12:27 "Stop those ships!!" - classic line. @16:42 - I doubt Picard or even would've let that slide. This made me respect Sisko even more.
Excellent. No other description is appropriate, or fair. Thank you for pulling this together.
I actually liked ds9 more than next generation, much better storyline, plot and casting. My only problem with ds9 was the lighting was terrible.
Me too, and you're right about the lighting. I wonder why they chose that lighting?
I also love the Enterprise series.
Ds9's episodes interconnected with previous episodes a lot, which lets the storylines build up.
TNG's episodes were more independant of each other and each focused a lot on their themes/lessons.
I mean they was on a cardassian station I dont think cardassians liked bright light.
lthough I would assume the federation would have installed their own to adjust.
I still think this story arc is the best Trek storytelling ever achieved.
Easily. If you go back to season 2, it literally took over 5 seasons but everything had continuity. It's something Trek has struggled with before and after....and other than most of TNG, DS9 was easily the best written of the franchise shows.
...Garak... plain simple Garak
I love DS9 and this is wonderfully put together. You really nailed the context going into the war. This is what I would show someone unfamiliar with star trek if I had to explain the dominion war.
I have always felt Elim Garak was the true hero of the dominion War
I miss old Star Trek so much 😭!
Ridiculous that the Enterprise, the FLAG SHIP, wasn't a part of the largest war in Star Trek history
Makes total sense. You don't want your flagship on the front lines, if they are destroyed it would be a devastating blow to moral across the Federation as well as losing one of your best ships. Better to use the Flagship of the Federation as a show of strength when engaging in diplomacy with other empires. Remember, the Federation was desperately looking for support during the war, so much so they even allowed a race that had only just developed warp drive into the Federation.
Picard is much better at diplomacy than any other Captain, so best to use him and his ship for what he is best at. The Enterprise is just too valuable an assets to risk losing on the front lines.
If I recall correctly it was leading the effort to liberate betazed. But I think that was only covered in novels or something,
As someone with only a passing remembrance or experience of many of the older / real StarTrek Original & Canon series, this was much appreciated.
(I've seen a fair bit of TNG and TOS it's not 100%, with less of DSN.)
It says a lot about the advanced story-telling of DS9 that one story arc takes no less that 25 minutes to discribe fully.
Suck it Voyager(!)
A little harsh on Voyager dude.... but true! :)
@@castojr9704 Voyager: 5 second video. Full transcript: They found themselves far from earth and then made their way back. The End.
@@lynxharpthorn7764in all fairness Voyager had some well written episodes - primarily around the Doctor but other stand alone episodes, "Blink of an Eye" for one. It's a shame that Voyager did not do more multi-episodes stories or the good episodes would have been great!
@@castojr9704 Yeah. I really liked many of the doctor heavy episodes. And the "year of hell" was pretty good. My favorite Trek is Ds9. People say that it was darker but I just remember a lot of voyager episodes being crazy dark. Like when the doctor loses his daughter for the sake of realness, or when the entire voyager ship is actually that weird copy-cat organism thing, where they dissipate before being able to talk to the real voyager. Almost too dark
@@lynxharpthorn7764 I actually forgot about those darker Voyager episodes - yeah they were disturbing which is what made them more impactful - but yes almost certainly too dark! Year of Hell was nicely done ( excellent casting ). DS9 is my fav Trek too! I think that the character of Garak had the most interesting episodes. Also the battle scenes during the Dominion War were spectacular - sometimes I just watch those episodes just for the special effects.
Great job very well done. Thank you for your comprehensive breakdown and by including many details made it an exemplary dissertation. Really enjoyed it especially the quote from the spy. Really excellent!
Garak did nothing wrong
This is a great explanation, thanks for making this video. I'm inspired to re-watch DS9 now.
This is pretty good overall, although like Garak in the series, it ignores that Senator Vreenak and the criminal were not the only two to die in that situation: so did Vreenak's guards/aides/pilot/etc. Also, I don't remember any mention of Section 31 and the morphogenic virus disease affecting the Founders, until the mention of Odo curing the Female Founder. And it turned out that the Prophets hadn't merely "accepted" Sisko as their "Emissary:" They had actually created him to start with, just for that purpose.
And also, there was no mention of the Pah Wraiths throughout the whole thing.
No mention of Odo either.
This was way more then I cared to know, but I'm glad there are some like you so dedicated.
Thank you.
Good damn, I feel like I just watch the entire seasons of DS9 lol.
The Dominion War is the best story line of any Star Trek series or movies.
One of my favorite Star Trek characters was Garak. Everything he said was a lie so much of what he said was true. I used to think little of Sisko but he has risen in my estimation over the years.