I like how apocalypse is happy of angel being Archangel Reminds me of how Rick Remender made it a point to say that warren was apocalypse chosen successor
@@juanchica8626 I hope these will have lasting effects. Can we petition to become a long running writer matching the number of years Claremont wrote the X-Men.
I think this will be the "Apocalypse Event" and when Moira does come out of hiding it will be for the "Moira Event". I'm not expecting to see her for while, and I'm fine with it. I'm stoked for this event and your coverage of it!
@@bergamt Moira X is probably binging Rick and Morty, ordering McNuggets with Szechuan sauce from Doordash, and trying to decide...time travel or multiverse?😂✌❤😎
Damn ! Hickman and his team really did their homework ! No stone of the X-men past stories is left unturned ! I am so exited ! And Pepe Larraz art is more than beautiful !!!
Yo I have no idea how you can keep you tone so level and postured throughout the video but my hats off to u bro! I’m over here squeezing like a school girl at the exciting potential 10 of swords holds!!!!!
@@freyseagrove-nelson4726 That's more accurate, the blue skin and all. Him being a powerful champion that fights until everyone is dead, that's almost like he's worshipping War itself.
First of all great review. Now to unpack my thoughts. My mind is seeing this as a possible mutant civil war. Arrako vs. Krakoa. I like how Krakoa stepped in and reminded them who is actually calling the shots when it comes to "The Land." Summoner is the mutant's version of Loki. After reading X-Men #12 again and the FCBD X-Men issue I too think that Genesis and Annihilation are two sides of the same coin. They are living opposites like Yin & Yang. It's like a literal representation or manifestation of a Woman Scorned. Genesis being buried to me means Annihilation buried that side of her. But then again you have to take everything Summoner says with a grain of salt. This is already starting off great...
It's really interesting how the resurrection protocol involves a sword match with Apocalypse showcases a mutant worthiness & Now saturnyne is having these two sides fight for seemingly worthiness of the other island. I predict this story will cause a shift in apocalypse mentality maybe he will revert back to his old personality & while he won't be a villain I can see it just being hickman setting him up for a future conflict.
Man I've been waiting on this vid since your Krakoa party this past weekend. So much in one chapter, but what you said on the Judgment card. Could Xavier affect Apocalypse's mind similar to Domino's to maybe keep him in check thus altering HIM instead of the entire state of the resurrection process?
In HoX Pox, Moira wrote that Apocalypse had to evolve before he could be integrated in the Krakoa Era. So while I don't believe that Apocalypse has become a good guy (far from it !), he isn't the simplistic survivalist he was when he woke up in this era.
Hey thanks, glad you're pumped for the video and event! Yeah, very realistic. I dont know that this really shakes things up enough though. Unless it sends Apocalypse on a totally different course apart from Krakoa!
Man this channel and your video breakdowns are legit!! This is what I've been looking for! I appreciate all the content you put out, and time & research you put into this. I've never been this excited for X-Men. So these videos are just awesome.
I think the Otherworld realms will serve as battlegrounds (Street Fighter stages) for the 10 fights. Diplomatic Ring might be a place for Embassies and Ambassadors to gather. They'll provide exposition for us, and support for the combatants. It's like the X-Men Chunin Exams.
I was thrilled by this issue, especially the character interactions, with warren/apocalypse being one of the highlights. It wouldn't surprise me if at the end of all this, when erik and charles are to decide on apocalypse's fate, if he brandishes the " no place " card.
Aww. Dad meets grandson, dad bonds with grandson, grandson leads dad to kids, dad reunites with kids and pours his heart out, kids and grandson try and kill dad, hot chick creates an tournament ultimatum. God X-men stories are so relatable.
Yeah, i want to know how unfolds the thing with Muramasa sword. Also, what a exciting reveal of SWORD. Also, i love the family dinamic with Cable, Rachel and Scott and Jean
I used to not care for how the xmen have always been separated from the rest of the marvel events but seeing how this is turning out already I see why it works
Great analysis, as always! This event has been a long time coming and was definitely worth the wait! DoX has had its ups and downs, but this payoff was absolutely worth it! In fact, I wonder if this has a chance to be as good as (I’d not better) than H/PoX. This was a tremendous start to the event. (And really, the info graphic page about Otherworld would have been so nice, you know, back in Excalibur 1.) Loved the video and commentary!
@@cee119What did you think was so amazing about it? The inconsistency between Saturnyne's portrayal in Excalibur as adamantly opposed to any involvement by mutants on Otherworld compared to her totally blase "Everything is preordained" attitude in this event? The betrayal by a mysterious character like the Summoner so blindingly obvious that a 15-year-old could've seen it coming, much less a 5,000-year-old genius mutant? The way, in fact, virtually every character has to be lobotomized in this story (and just about every other story Hickman has ever written) in order for the silly plot to work?
@@damianpatterson9363 it's OK bro, bring it in (hugs) . You didn't like it. I did. I didn't do a deep dive, i just enjoyed what I read. Sorry that you didn't. Take care.
Oh man this is so my shit! Swords, mutants, and mayhem! It's the x content I never knew I wanted. I'm so here for all the X of swords stuff, I pray it all lands. You bring up the possibility of resurrection protocols being changed, and that genuinely worries me. I'm so intrigued to see how this will progress, and very much what is beyond, considering we have been looking forward to this for about a year or more. Yes please do a breakdown of the swords! I know most of them but need a refresher!
Just realized that the "line up" of mutants in the Free Comic Book Day release is different than what came out in Creation for the "Hanged Man"...I wonder if that was intentional so as to not spill the beans? The other pages look consistent.
I just noticed that too rereading those pages! It was so well done. I wonder what the significance of the three characters that changed between the two pages?
I don't think that it will be a big appearance, but Moira has to show up. She encountered the First Horsemen in her 9th Life; she'll come in with a critical piece of information that will turn the tide for the X-Men. So excited for all of this. Only one issue next week, but they'll come quickly after that!
I'm really exited to see where this is going. First of all we have a confirmation that Mad Jims Jaspers is returning, (so I suppose we get another Omega to the list) and possibly Mister M too. Also for me is interesting that we see that Tarot also predicted this events and that makes me wonder where is she, as she is a precognitive mutant and Moira told that precogs where forbbiden to be in Krakoa. Also one thing I'm seeing interesting is that Brian Barddock is like a really huge character in this event and I get that he is related to Otherworld since his history but that makes me wonder. Is his partipation related entierly just in Otherworld or is he wonna have more than just that. Could he also be a mutant in secret like Moira? Because I could see something like that coming up as Saturnyne warn Betsy about beign both a mutant and Captain Britain. I highly suspect something like this since Merlin is back.
@@210SAi Two reasons, that there is a kingdom in Otherworld named Mercator (Mister M's last name) and that Mercator kingdom is resalted with blue while the others are black. This is interesting because when Mister M used his powers he glowed with blue energy
You just reminded me of something that Destiny said about Moira. Moira is a void that can’t be seen normally when she uses her Precognition. I believe that is why she was not picked up by any other precog before. Destiny only knows of her because of her close proximity and direct confrontation. You might even say that Destiny knew enough about her own abilities to figure out a way bypass Moira’s shadowy presence to precognitive abilities and bind herself to Moira through all of her lives. It’s like Xavier having to work harder with his abilities to affect someone with a mind like Mercury. As Rogue told Vargas as he resisted her ability to absorb his abilities and memories, “But just ‘cause you’re resistant, doesn’t mean your immune!” I loved that fight between Rogue and Vargas because Rogue began to understand Destiny’s books of destiny better than anyone else. Moira may be scared of Destiny, not knowing that only Destiny actually figured out how to “see” her. But because she does not know this, all precogs are on her radar now. This Tarot character is proof that Moira is a missing factor right now. Moira may actually be a new physical manifestation of precognition. Precogs don’t see other precogs. They just see the influence they can make. Like a fork in a road. Moira may be a precog who actually lives the life to have the awareness. Her scope is limited to what she physically sees but she has each new life to make adjustments. That is a theory.
I think it's really weird how everyone in Krakoa just trusts the Summoner to be telling the thruth and not lying through his teeth, even though he was super suspicious since his introduction.
Right? Like all of Krakoa is suspicious of everyone and in walks Summoner with this incredibly fantastic story and The Quiet Council was like...ok! 🙄✌❤😎
I was just reminded me of something that Destiny said about Moira. Moira is a void that can’t be seen normally when she uses her Precognition. I believe that is why she was not picked up by any other precog before. Destiny only knows of her because of her close proximity and direct confrontation. You might even say that Destiny knew enough about her own abilities to figure out a way bypass Moira’s shadowy presence to precognitive abilities and bind herself to Moira through all of her lives. It’s like Xavier having to work harder with his abilities to affect someone with a mind like Mercury. As Rogue told Vargas as he resisted her ability to absorb his abilities and memories, “But just ‘cause you’re resistant, doesn’t mean your immune!” I loved that fight between Rogue and Vargas because Rogue began to understand Destiny’s books of destiny better than anyone else. Moira may be scared of Destiny, not knowing that only Destiny actually figured out how to “see” her. But because she does not know this, all precogs are on her radar now. This Tarot character is proof that Moira is a missing factor right now. Moira may actually be a new physical manifestation of precognition. Precogs don’t see other precogs. They just see the influence they can make. Like a fork in a road. Moira may be a precog who actually lives the life to have the awareness. Her scope is limited to what she physically sees but she has each new life to make adjustments. That is a theory.
I apologize if I misread, but Moira X does not have precog abilities...she knows what she knows because of living her lives and then reincarnates. Destiny was able to sense her because even though Moira X can "hide" from other mutants Destiny was able to sense reality bending around her...eddies...there was a "hole" where there shouldn't be one. ✌❤😎
DragonReborn3769 yeah you read me right. I am paying attention to the case that precogs actually don’t actually read each other and throwing out a theory that Moira X is a alternate kind of precog. Like a flyer having wings vs a flyer using energy.
@@cary4603 Ohhh!!!! Got it! Interesting. It would be cool if Moira X met another mutant with the ability to reincarnate. If we can have a thousand with healing factors how bought at least 2 with reincarnation abilities!?!?✌❤😎
Maybe the aliens are mutants and will bond with the X-Men to power them up. That's a pretty standard event trope. Also, please do the video on the swords. And maybe one on S.W.O.R.D.?
Great question! I wonder if it's the artist who is currently drawing him that makes the decision, although I'm sure the writers had to have addressed this... ✌❤😎
Yeah it's been established earlier in X-Men canon (I'm pretty sure before hickman) that he can switch between them at will. I think all the horsemen actually have their horsemen personas in their persona and can unlock that persona under the right circumstances
Just out of curiosity, have you memorized the Krakoan alphabet? I have memorized it mostly, there are only maybe 5 or six letters that stump me sometimes. And I'm always confused with the T and TH.
YES. Loved seeing her use her full power like that! I know she isn’t technically an Omega, but being the daughter of one, I consider her just about omega level
I think this is not the event which turns apocalypse away, its going to consolidate him as an ally of Krakoa. His family who he longed for betrayed him, and he will fully adopt Krakoan mutants as his family. This will help answer the issues of trust with other mutants, touched on regularly in his appearances so far
Great stuff! Super hyped about this entire story arc... -Wondering if this has any connections(prelude) to the future Apocalypse Wars story, where Apoc was shown to hold together and be the center/source and ruler of a number of busted worlds..??.(Hickman's map page gave me these strange thoughts) Either way, great book and video! 👌
Yes, Gorgon has two swords named Grasscutter and Godkiller Wolverine's Muramasa blade was created by an immortal sword crafter named Muramasa who has created several cursed blades. So the two listings of Muramasa could mean different blades. OR could be Solem steals Logan's blade for a time, and Logan will use in different time.
@@Icanonlycountto4 Oh no it is not Necro sword. I think that both Grasscutter and Godkiller goes back to Japanese mythos. But as far as Marvel goes, they played a part in the Chaos War. Actually they are tied to the history of conflict between Greek and Japanese gods. To quote the Marvel Datapage= "Ages ago there was a war between the Greek gods and the Japanese gods. Zeus and Amatsu-Mikaboshi separately told a single blacksmith to forge a weapon for them. The blacksmith crafted two swords: one perfect, called Grasscutter; the other flawed, called Godkiller. Godkiller was given to Zeus, but ended up being lost as time went by.[1] Throughout the ages, Godkiller passed into many hands, having killed kings, emperors, and even made a god bleed at the hands of a mortal. It was ultimately acquired by the Kraken and passed on to the Gorgon,[2] who wielded it in battle against the Grasscutter-wielding Phobos years later. Both swords broke during the battle, but that didn't stop the Gorgon from using his broken blade to kill his opponent.[3] The broken Godkiller remained on the corpse of Phobos as Gehenna, site of his fight against the Gorgon, collapsed." I wonder how both swords are whole here though...
I would like a deep dive on the swords. Which sword is missing? Excalibur? Annihilation is most likely Genesis, but a long shot would be Storm...not our Ororo, but the older version that became a sorceress in Limbo. Marvel just released a True Believer's classic issue where an older, Sorceress version of Storm helps Ilyana break free of Belasco. That can't be a coincidence. Every issue of True Believers released is connected to everything we are seeing now.
I think "kill your sweethearts" idea might not refer to the writers killing a fan-favorite character, but instead refer to Apocalypse being forced to kill his sweetheart, which lends even more credit to your theory about Genesis and Annihilation being one in the same. Tarot seems to be saying that these cards are being drawn for a specific person, a "he" -- and Apocalypse seems like the obvious choice.
Moira potentially knows about what is coming in this event. She ended up becoming close to Apocalypse in her life choosing his path which could elude to the fallout Apocalypse may have had with his wife in “rescuing” them and restoring Krakoa. In that same life Krakoa even has an alternate form which may be the culmination of cipher’s body as a host for it becoming truly whole. The first horsemen of Apocalypse are shown standing alongside Moira and Apocalypse in the chapter 3 of the House of X/Powers of X initial run. So those children of Apocalypse characters are not new. They were present from the beginning, but as a minor mention in the “rescue the first horsemen and return to earth”. So honestly Moira knows about this and the longer she stays quiet the more this could become an issue between her and the quiet council. She knew what Apocalypse would need to cross over and she remained silent. She might get by with Apocalypse only because she can say he needed to be strong enough to face it, but everyone else might not take her silent awareness as contributing to the survival of Krokoans. Honestly for all we know, Xavier is actually aware of this to some extent. Or maybe he was in the middle of a memory walkthrough with Moira about what Apocalypse was doing with the gates, which could be why he called him En Saba Nur during the council meeting. He may have been speaking more from Moira’s experience rather than his own faculties. I am loving this story though. I really did not trust that ever nude grandson. Lol. I have a feeling Rockslide is going to have his retaliation by killing Summoner through his eyes, which Rockslide did learn were summoners weaknesses through the game they played.
I feel like when they were naming off enemies they were talking about new enemies that have spawned since the Krakoa age began, the Children of the Vault were prior to Krakoa.
A massive undertaking but could be a fascinating series and good to refer too again in the future would be a list of all plot threads currently created since HOX / POX. This would likely be a 2 part series. One for Hox / Pox. One for Dawn of X as a whole. I feel like Hickman has weaved in such a vast amount of potential future storyline seeds in such a short period. its actually kind of insane. I think his work on everything X at this point has already vastly passed his work on FF and Avengers. The scope of what he is writing has never before been seen. Its not even about all the big flashy things going on. It's all the tiny alterations to so many characters futures in comics. Hickman's time on x-men will be referenced forever in some form or fashion in future storylines. Its the same as when you look back at past events that affected so many characters.
Great beginning to the arc... i just wish spoilers were held in more... revealing the SWORD comic prior to the reveal at the end of this issue kind of killed my excitement over it
Thank you Dave for this great video and recap! There's gotta be only one Omega Level UA-cam Channel and it has to be Comic Book Herald!😊 I'm wondering if you are either going to catch new goodies on your second read or if something will read differently... Gotta say, Excalibur is my least fave X book but reading XoS Creation 1 has made me glad I continued reading it (and I think it payed off). Gotta say I'm disappointed in Apocalypse...he seemed to be duped fairly easily by Summoner and everyone just seemed to take Summoner at his word...weird for a nation full of mutants suspicious of everyone, including themselves! Great overall read and the art was fantastic (Yay Pepe Larraz and Marte Gracia!). BTW, I would be surprised if Moira X has a crucial role in this event. I have been predicting since HoXPoX that she is the overall baddie of Hickman's X world and her reappearance will be grand and extremely impacting! It would be a nice call back if Wolverine gets to kill her again to restart and reset the timeline. If Moira X does appear, it will probably be at the end and in cameo form. As always, stay for the books! ✌❤😎
I sure need a good sword breakdown, especially if these names of swords are tied to real life or comics mythology. By the way, based on the ending of the first part, alongside with the cover of the next Cable issue, something always wakes up when you power up a months-old ship. It just aligns perfectly, and I’m hoping for an Alien-ish experience.
Personally I feel as though A.R.M.O.R. would have been a much better fit. The mutants are mostly dealing with alternate realities rather than aliens, plus with A.R.M.O.R. you could potentially do a tie-in back into Moira's past lives and how they would have a potential impact on krakoa
@@tashoncoleman5480 Haha! It was meant to be funny sarcastic (towards the writers)...two things that written text don't convey very well! I think by the end of this event we're all gonna be so done with swords no matter if they stick the landing. ⚔️✌❤😎
Definitely want a history of all the swords and their connections to X-Men characters btw!
I like how apocalypse is happy of angel being
Archangel
Reminds me of how Rick Remender made it a point to say that warren was apocalypse chosen successor
Proud Papa A is kinda becoming my favorite
Even better reason for Archangel to cut his head off.
@@Comicbookherald I definitely would not go that far! ✌❤😎
I'm interested in a deep dive on these swords.
The things I do for all your love!
Same!
I haven’t been this excited for an event in a really long time!
Since house and powers of x when the x men finally came back to life
@@juanchica8626 I hope these will have lasting effects. Can we petition to become a long running writer matching the number of years Claremont wrote the X-Men.
I think this will be the "Apocalypse Event" and when Moira does come out of hiding it will be for the "Moira Event". I'm not expecting to see her for while, and I'm fine with it. I'm stoked for this event and your coverage of it!
I totes agree!
Moira's just been spending this whole time getting takeout from one of the world's great culinary cities and binging netflix
@@bergamt Moira X is probably binging Rick and Morty, ordering McNuggets with Szechuan sauce from Doordash, and trying to decide...time travel or multiverse?😂✌❤😎
I read this as soon as I woke up this morning . I am so happy
Please do the swords!
Damn ! Hickman and his team really did their homework ! No stone of the X-men past stories is left unturned !
I am so exited !
And Pepe Larraz art is more than beautiful !!!
I'm definitely interested in a breakdown of all those swords and their histories!
Yo I have no idea how you can keep you tone so level and postured throughout the video but my hats off to u bro! I’m over here squeezing like a school girl at the exciting potential 10 of swords holds!!!!!
Great work on the S.W.O.R.D. prediction! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Thank you for dropping a video the release date! Every other UA-cam reviewer is waiting for others to read....CBH MAKING SATURNYNE MOVES! 😂
CBH is the Omega Level UA-cam Channel! ✌❤😎
We have been waiting for this one! U dont know how much you and your videos are appreciated man. Thank you!
Summoner did say he's a summoner of lies... so I'm thinking She is Annihilation and the White Sword is her new Husband.
I think White Sword might be Summoners father and War's husband.
@@freyseagrove-nelson4726 That's more accurate, the blue skin and all. Him being a powerful champion that fights until everyone is dead, that's almost like he's worshipping War itself.
Nice nod to the "Rick & Morty" opening sequence with the flying Cthulhu monster.
Oh snap! YASS! ✌❤😎
Please do a deep dive Krakin’ Krakoa on the swords ⚔️ specifically! I am here for it! 🦾👊🏽👊🏽💯
Give us that sword lore baby
i had a lot of fun with this issue. art is amazing. that summoner betrayal was so obvious lol deep dive on the swords please!
First of all great review. Now to unpack my thoughts. My mind is seeing this as a possible mutant civil war. Arrako vs. Krakoa. I like how Krakoa stepped in and reminded them who is actually calling the shots when it comes to "The Land." Summoner is the mutant's version of Loki. After reading X-Men #12 again and the FCBD X-Men issue I too think that Genesis and Annihilation are two sides of the same coin. They are living opposites like Yin & Yang. It's like a literal representation or manifestation of a Woman Scorned. Genesis being buried to me means Annihilation buried that side of her. But then again you have to take everything Summoner says with a grain of salt. This is already starting off great...
I totally agree with you Pharaoh! ✌❤😎
It's really interesting how the resurrection protocol involves a sword match with Apocalypse showcases a mutant worthiness & Now saturnyne is having these two sides fight for seemingly worthiness of the other island. I predict this story will cause a shift in apocalypse mentality maybe he will revert back to his old personality & while he won't be a villain I can see it just being hickman setting him up for a future conflict.
Yes! This is very Crucible like! Nice catch! ✌❤😎
A deep dive on the Swords??🤔
YES PLEASE!!! 😅😭
Please do a vid on the history of the Swords for X of Swords.
Great breakdown, I'm so intrigued by this event.
Please do a video on all those swords
Loved the video, and I need more Otherworld and Sword information prompto.
Man I've been waiting on this vid since your Krakoa party this past weekend. So much in one chapter, but what you said on the Judgment card. Could Xavier affect Apocalypse's mind similar to Domino's to maybe keep him in check thus altering HIM instead of the entire state of the resurrection process?
In HoX Pox, Moira wrote that Apocalypse had to evolve before he could be integrated in the Krakoa Era.
So while I don't believe that Apocalypse has become a good guy (far from it !), he isn't the simplistic survivalist he was when he woke up in this era.
Hey thanks, glad you're pumped for the video and event!
Yeah, very realistic. I dont know that this really shakes things up enough though. Unless it sends Apocalypse on a totally different course apart from Krakoa!
I love your recaps! You do an incredible job!
the plot twist is unreal
Man this channel and your video breakdowns are legit!! This is what I've been looking for! I appreciate all the content you put out, and time & research you put into this. I've never been this excited for X-Men. So these videos are just awesome.
I think the Otherworld realms will serve as battlegrounds (Street Fighter stages) for the 10 fights. Diplomatic Ring might be a place for Embassies and Ambassadors to gather. They'll provide exposition for us, and support for the combatants. It's like the X-Men Chunin Exams.
Monet and Polaris were AWESOME
Let’s hear about some swords! Love krakin krakoa
I was thrilled by this issue, especially the character interactions, with warren/apocalypse being one of the highlights. It wouldn't surprise me if at the end of all this, when erik and charles are to decide on apocalypse's fate, if he brandishes the " no place " card.
Aww. Dad meets grandson, dad bonds with grandson, grandson leads dad to kids, dad reunites with kids and pours his heart out, kids and grandson try and kill dad, hot chick creates an tournament ultimatum. God X-men stories are so relatable.
Tale old as time
@@bluemidnightblksky my family calls it Christmas
Yeah, i want to know how unfolds the thing with Muramasa sword. Also, what a exciting reveal of SWORD. Also, i love the family dinamic with Cable, Rachel and Scott and Jean
I used to not care for how the xmen have always been separated from the rest of the marvel events but seeing how this is turning out already I see why it works
Deep dive into the swords? Yes! Please!
amazing read. so many goodies
Great analysis, as always! This event has been a long time coming and was definitely worth the wait! DoX has had its ups and downs, but this payoff was absolutely worth it! In fact, I wonder if this has a chance to be as good as (I’d not better) than H/PoX. This was a tremendous start to the event. (And really, the info graphic page about Otherworld would have been so nice, you know, back in Excalibur 1.)
Loved the video and commentary!
You CANNOT tell me that this book isn't AMAZING!!!! OMG!
It's not amazing. It's not even mazing
@@damianpatterson9363 Dream crusher over here lol
@@cee119What did you think was so amazing about it? The inconsistency between Saturnyne's portrayal in Excalibur as adamantly opposed to any involvement by mutants on Otherworld compared to her totally blase "Everything is preordained" attitude in this event? The betrayal by a mysterious character like the Summoner so blindingly obvious that a 15-year-old could've seen it coming, much less a 5,000-year-old genius mutant? The way, in fact, virtually every character has to be lobotomized in this story (and just about every other story Hickman has ever written) in order for the silly plot to work?
@@damianpatterson9363 it's OK bro, bring it in (hugs) . You didn't like it. I did. I didn't do a deep dive, i just enjoyed what I read. Sorry that you didn't. Take care.
Oh man this is so my shit! Swords, mutants, and mayhem! It's the x content I never knew I wanted. I'm so here for all the X of swords stuff, I pray it all lands. You bring up the possibility of resurrection protocols being changed, and that genuinely worries me. I'm so intrigued to see how this will progress, and very much what is beyond, considering we have been looking forward to this for about a year or more.
Yes please do a breakdown of the swords! I know most of them but need a refresher!
I need a deep dive on those swords please
I would love a video on the swords.
Just realized that the "line up" of mutants in the Free Comic Book Day release is different than what came out in Creation for the "Hanged Man"...I wonder if that was intentional so as to not spill the beans? The other pages look consistent.
I just noticed that too rereading those pages! It was so well done. I wonder what the significance of the three characters that changed between the two pages?
Please do a history of the swords!
I don't think that it will be a big appearance, but Moira has to show up. She encountered the First Horsemen in her 9th Life; she'll come in with a critical piece of information that will turn the tide for the X-Men. So excited for all of this. Only one issue next week, but they'll come quickly after that!
I think they are saving Moira X...she might make a cameo but will have no impact on the story. ✌❤😎
I'm really exited to see where this is going. First of all we have a confirmation that Mad Jims Jaspers is returning, (so I suppose we get another Omega to the list) and possibly Mister M too. Also for me is interesting that we see that Tarot also predicted this events and that makes me wonder where is she, as she is a precognitive mutant and Moira told that precogs where forbbiden to be in Krakoa. Also one thing I'm seeing interesting is that Brian Barddock is like a really huge character in this event and I get that he is related to Otherworld since his history but that makes me wonder. Is his partipation related entierly just in Otherworld or is he wonna have more than just that. Could he also be a mutant in secret like Moira? Because I could see something like that coming up as Saturnyne warn Betsy about beign both a mutant and Captain Britain. I highly suspect something like this since Merlin is back.
What makes you think Mr M is showing up?
@@210SAi Two reasons, that there is a kingdom in Otherworld named Mercator (Mister M's last name) and that Mercator kingdom is resalted with blue while the others are black. This is interesting because when Mister M used his powers he glowed with blue energy
Fernando Cuauhshihua Carbajal Mejia I hadn’t seen that part of the video yet. Makes sense
@@210SAi Yeah! It's interesting. I'm assuming we'll be seeing the return of Tarot, Mad Jims Jaspers and Mister M pretty soon in X of Swords.
You just reminded me of something that Destiny said about Moira. Moira is a void that can’t be seen normally when she uses her Precognition. I believe that is why she was not picked up by any other precog before. Destiny only knows of her because of her close proximity and direct confrontation. You might even say that Destiny knew enough about her own abilities to figure out a way bypass Moira’s shadowy presence to precognitive abilities and bind herself to Moira through all of her lives. It’s like Xavier having to work harder with his abilities to affect someone with a mind like Mercury.
As Rogue told Vargas as he resisted her ability to absorb his abilities and memories, “But just ‘cause you’re resistant, doesn’t mean your immune!” I loved that fight between Rogue and Vargas because Rogue began to understand Destiny’s books of destiny better than anyone else.
Moira may be scared of Destiny, not knowing that only Destiny actually figured out how to “see” her. But because she does not know this, all precogs are on her radar now. This Tarot character is proof that Moira is a missing factor right now. Moira may actually be a new physical manifestation of precognition. Precogs don’t see other precogs. They just see the influence they can make. Like a fork in a road. Moira may be a precog who actually lives the life to have the awareness. Her scope is limited to what she physically sees but she has each new life to make adjustments. That is a theory.
I think it's really weird how everyone in Krakoa just trusts the Summoner to be telling the thruth and not lying through his teeth, even though he was super suspicious since his introduction.
Right? Like all of Krakoa is suspicious of everyone and in walks Summoner with this incredibly fantastic story and The Quiet Council was like...ok! 🙄✌❤😎
The tournament arc for the x-men to deal
lol
TOURNAMEEEEEEENT ARC!
Absolutely would love a full sword history deep dive breakdown 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I was just reminded me of something that Destiny said about Moira. Moira is a void that can’t be seen normally when she uses her Precognition. I believe that is why she was not picked up by any other precog before. Destiny only knows of her because of her close proximity and direct confrontation. You might even say that Destiny knew enough about her own abilities to figure out a way bypass Moira’s shadowy presence to precognitive abilities and bind herself to Moira through all of her lives. It’s like Xavier having to work harder with his abilities to affect someone with a mind like Mercury.
As Rogue told Vargas as he resisted her ability to absorb his abilities and memories, “But just ‘cause you’re resistant, doesn’t mean your immune!” I loved that fight between Rogue and Vargas because Rogue began to understand Destiny’s books of destiny better than anyone else.
Moira may be scared of Destiny, not knowing that only Destiny actually figured out how to “see” her. But because she does not know this, all precogs are on her radar now. This Tarot character is proof that Moira is a missing factor right now. Moira may actually be a new physical manifestation of precognition. Precogs don’t see other precogs. They just see the influence they can make. Like a fork in a road. Moira may be a precog who actually lives the life to have the awareness. Her scope is limited to what she physically sees but she has each new life to make adjustments. That is a theory.
I apologize if I misread, but Moira X does not have precog abilities...she knows what she knows because of living her lives and then reincarnates. Destiny was able to sense her because even though Moira X can "hide" from other mutants Destiny was able to sense reality bending around her...eddies...there was a "hole" where there shouldn't be one. ✌❤😎
DragonReborn3769 yeah you read me right. I am paying attention to the case that precogs actually don’t actually read each other and throwing out a theory that Moira X is a alternate kind of precog. Like a flyer having wings vs a flyer using energy.
@@cary4603 Ohhh!!!! Got it! Interesting. It would be cool if Moira X met another mutant with the ability to reincarnate. If we can have a thousand with healing factors how bought at least 2 with reincarnation abilities!?!?✌❤😎
I haven't seen Vargas in Krakoa. Will he join the X-Men. I hope so. I also love to see Cassandra Nova and the Scarlet Witch join Krakoa.
@@DragonReborn3769 I wonder if Moira had a life in which the Phoenix finally succeeded in defeating all enemies of Krakoa including Orchis and Nimrod.
Definitely interested in the story of the swords.
Are there really 11 swords in the arakko side?
Maybe the aliens are mutants and will bond with the X-Men to power them up. That's a pretty standard event trope. Also, please do the video on the swords. And maybe one on S.W.O.R.D.?
I'm down to hear more about the different swords!
So is it established that Angel can switch between his feathered self and Archangel self at will? Just curious.
I 2nd this question!
Great question! I wonder if it's the artist who is currently drawing him that makes the decision, although I'm sure the writers had to have addressed this... ✌❤😎
I hope the answer is yes because that would be cool. I would love to see a panel of mid-transformation.
@@cray-seacoral Yes! Mild mannered feathered to badass bladed! ✌❤😎
Yeah it's been established earlier in X-Men canon (I'm pretty sure before hickman) that he can switch between them at will. I think all the horsemen actually have their horsemen personas in their persona and can unlock that persona under the right circumstances
Just out of curiosity, have you memorized the Krakoan alphabet? I have memorized it mostly, there are only maybe 5 or six letters that stump me sometimes. And I'm always confused with the T and TH.
👏🏽🙌🏽🤘🏽
Polaris is the kick ass here. Let's see what's coming in X-factor #4.
YES. Loved seeing her use her full power like that! I know she isn’t technically an Omega, but being the daughter of one, I consider her just about omega level
@@davidmendez5933 Pretty much...yea. Polaris is more than meets the eye. She's extremely powerful that for sure.
she's the star in X-Factor 4 but it remains to be seen her relevance to this storyline in the end
@@wintherr3527 she plays a fairly big role later.
I think this is not the event which turns apocalypse away, its going to consolidate him as an ally of Krakoa. His family who he longed for betrayed him, and he will fully adopt Krakoan mutants as his family. This will help answer the issues of trust with other mutants, touched on regularly in his appearances so far
Great stuff!
Super hyped about this entire story arc...
-Wondering if this has any connections(prelude) to the future Apocalypse Wars story, where Apoc was shown to hold together and be the center/source and ruler of a number of busted worlds..??.(Hickman's map page gave me these strange thoughts)
Either way, great book and video! 👌
Yes, Gorgon has two swords named Grasscutter and Godkiller
Wolverine's Muramasa blade was created by an immortal sword crafter named Muramasa who has created several cursed blades.
So the two listings of Muramasa could mean different blades. OR could be Solem steals Logan's blade for a time, and Logan will use in different time.
Thanks for clearing up God killer because I thought it was the Necrosword at first, MANNNNNN that would have been too much
@@Icanonlycountto4 Oh no it is not Necro sword. I think that both Grasscutter and Godkiller goes back to Japanese mythos. But as far as Marvel goes, they played a part in the Chaos War. Actually they are tied to the history of conflict between Greek and Japanese gods.
To quote the Marvel Datapage=
"Ages ago there was a war between the Greek gods and the Japanese gods. Zeus and Amatsu-Mikaboshi separately told a single blacksmith to forge a weapon for them. The blacksmith crafted two swords: one perfect, called Grasscutter; the other flawed, called Godkiller. Godkiller was given to Zeus, but ended up being lost as time went by.[1]
Throughout the ages, Godkiller passed into many hands, having killed kings, emperors, and even made a god bleed at the hands of a mortal. It was ultimately acquired by the Kraken and passed on to the Gorgon,[2] who wielded it in battle against the Grasscutter-wielding Phobos years later. Both swords broke during the battle, but that didn't stop the Gorgon from using his broken blade to kill his opponent.[3] The broken Godkiller remained on the corpse of Phobos as Gehenna, site of his fight against the Gorgon, collapsed."
I wonder how both swords are whole here though...
Please do one the swords
I would like a deep dive on the swords. Which sword is missing? Excalibur? Annihilation is most likely Genesis, but a long shot would be Storm...not our Ororo, but the older version that became a sorceress in Limbo. Marvel just released a True Believer's classic issue where an older, Sorceress version of Storm helps Ilyana break free of Belasco. That can't be a coincidence.
Every issue of True Believers released is connected to everything we are seeing now.
Yes, Dave did a video on this. This was his prediction. ✌❤😎
@@DragonReborn3769 Thanks! I will go back and rewatch that for more clues!
@@RidiculousThoughts It was a Saturday video I think. Classified Swordbearer Solved.✌❤😎
PLZ explain the orinigs of "The Swords" and what you think about them. would make the playlist more amazing and teaching
I think "kill your sweethearts" idea might not refer to the writers killing a fan-favorite character, but instead refer to Apocalypse being forced to kill his sweetheart, which lends even more credit to your theory about Genesis and Annihilation being one in the same. Tarot seems to be saying that these cards are being drawn for a specific person, a "he" -- and Apocalypse seems like the obvious choice.
Thats an interesting read. Yeah, I could see that!
Do a video about the swords!
Moira potentially knows about what is coming in this event. She ended up becoming close to Apocalypse in her life choosing his path which could elude to the fallout Apocalypse may have had with his wife in “rescuing” them and restoring Krakoa. In that same life Krakoa even has an alternate form which may be the culmination of cipher’s body as a host for it becoming truly whole. The first horsemen of Apocalypse are shown standing alongside Moira and Apocalypse in the chapter 3 of the House of X/Powers of X initial run. So those children of Apocalypse characters are not new. They were present from the beginning, but as a minor mention in the “rescue the first horsemen and return to earth”.
So honestly Moira knows about this and the longer she stays quiet the more this could become an issue between her and the quiet council. She knew what Apocalypse would need to cross over and she remained silent. She might get by with Apocalypse only because she can say he needed to be strong enough to face it, but everyone else might not take her silent awareness as contributing to the survival of Krokoans.
Honestly for all we know, Xavier is actually aware of this to some extent. Or maybe he was in the middle of a memory walkthrough with Moira about what Apocalypse was doing with the gates, which could be why he called him En Saba Nur during the council meeting. He may have been speaking more from Moira’s experience rather than his own faculties.
I am loving this story though. I really did not trust that ever nude grandson. Lol. I have a feeling Rockslide is going to have his retaliation by killing Summoner through his eyes, which Rockslide did learn were summoners weaknesses through the game they played.
Really dope theory!
I love the world building in this issue.
I've been looking for a breakdown of the swords!! ⚔
Now Excalibur actually makes sense.
Right? It's my least fave of the X books. ✌❤😎
Im interested in a krakin krakoa on the swords
19:16 The suit of Cups corresponds with the suit of Hearts...
Please please please do a deep dive on the swords.
I feel like when they were naming off enemies they were talking about new enemies that have spawned since the Krakoa age began, the Children of the Vault were prior to Krakoa.
Bring us that sword deep dive
A massive undertaking but could be a fascinating series and good to refer too again in the future would be a list of all plot threads currently created since HOX / POX. This would likely be a 2 part series. One for Hox / Pox. One for Dawn of X as a whole. I feel like Hickman has weaved in such a vast amount of potential future storyline seeds in such a short period. its actually kind of insane. I think his work on everything X at this point has already vastly passed his work on FF and Avengers. The scope of what he is writing has never before been seen. Its not even about all the big flashy things going on. It's all the tiny alterations to so many characters futures in comics. Hickman's time on x-men will be referenced forever in some form or fashion in future storylines. Its the same as when you look back at past events that affected so many characters.
id like a video about the swords
Tell us about the swords!!
Please do the sword video. I beg of you.
I went from being unenthusiastic about this event to stoked.
Make the swords deep dive!
video about the swords please!!!!
Great beginning to the arc... i just wish spoilers were held in more... revealing the SWORD comic prior to the reveal at the end of this issue kind of killed my excitement over it
Holy shit, this is getting juicy !!!!
But this only exacerbates my last question back in X-men 12: CAN they bring Rockslide back? He doesn't have DNA, he's pure energy.
Thank you Dave for this great video and recap! There's gotta be only one Omega Level UA-cam Channel and it has to be Comic Book Herald!😊 I'm wondering if you are either going to catch new goodies on your second read or if something will read differently... Gotta say, Excalibur is my least fave X book but reading XoS Creation 1 has made me glad I continued reading it (and I think it payed off). Gotta say I'm disappointed in Apocalypse...he seemed to be duped fairly easily by Summoner and everyone just seemed to take Summoner at his word...weird for a nation full of mutants suspicious of everyone, including themselves! Great overall read and the art was fantastic (Yay Pepe Larraz and Marte Gracia!). BTW, I would be surprised if Moira X has a crucial role in this event. I have been predicting since HoXPoX that she is the overall baddie of Hickman's X world and her reappearance will be grand and extremely impacting! It would be a nice call back if Wolverine gets to kill her again to restart and reset the timeline. If Moira X does appear, it will probably be at the end and in cameo form. As always, stay for the books! ✌❤😎
Apocalypse and Krakoa must be protected at all cost...they are the future
I agree. I hope the Phoenix will also protect Krakoa aside from Apocalypse.
14:11 why arrako's blades are 11?
Please do the swords
Uh, mutants vs Arrako...isn't this just a riff on Secret Wars?
Who is the child of apocalypse with the red sphere head?
I'm confused about Arrako; why does there need to be a gate to it if it reunited with Krakoa?
Only a small part of Arrako returned along with Summoner in X-Men 2. The majority is still lost..
I sure need a good sword breakdown, especially if these names of swords are tied to real life or comics mythology. By the way, based on the ending of the first part, alongside with the cover of the next Cable issue, something always wakes up when you power up a months-old ship. It just aligns perfectly, and I’m hoping for an Alien-ish experience.
Anybody find it funny apacolypse is not wearing his armor ?
It's like there are two A's now...the warrior (armor) and the wizard (robes). ✌❤😎
The horsemen are acting more like old apocalypse
Well they are his children after all. It makes sense they are like Apocalyspe.
Yes, I love that!
And nothing beats the love a parent has for a child
man, i feel bad when Apocalypse start crying when finally meet his kids.
@@mocca3633 same man I felt him so much
im down on the sword history
Do the swords
Isn't Tarot a precog?
For the Hanged Man card, I think all of the characters depicted in the card are going to be sacrificed/killed ... just a hunch though.
its not a question. you HAVE to do an episode on the swords :). we need your knowledge.
Personally I feel as though A.R.M.O.R. would have been a much better fit. The mutants are mostly dealing with alternate realities rather than aliens, plus with A.R.M.O.R. you could potentially do a tie-in back into Moira's past lives and how they would have a potential impact on krakoa
Yes but...swords! 😂✌❤😎
@@DragonReborn3769 you make a compelling argument
@@tashoncoleman5480 Haha! It was meant to be funny sarcastic (towards the writers)...two things that written text don't convey very well! I think by the end of this event we're all gonna be so done with swords no matter if they stick the landing. ⚔️✌❤😎