8 Major Secrets in the X of Swords Handbook! | Krakin’ Krakoa
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- In general, Marvel event handbooks are a quick recap, a visual Wikipedia, of story details that can help readers understand the players, reasons, and storylines applicable to the event comic. While this is true of the X-Men: X of Swords handbook, there’s so much we still don’t know, and so many fascinating mysteries in the event and the Hickman era of X-Men at large, that I was deeply engaged with the handbook’s 50+ pages hunting for clues.
Today I’ll answer:
What are the most interesting secrets and ideas present in the handbook comic?
What surprising character inclusions promise much more to come in X of Swords?
Theories and predictions for what’s to come in X-Men!
Spoilers for discussed comics may follow!
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Storm died in 'Fall of the Mutants', but was revived by Roma.
Thought of mentioning it.
I'm rereading FoM this week. Not a moment too soon it seems!
@@Comicbookherald Betsy's first death too
Ha! At that part of the video now, immediately went to comments, should’ve known someone mentioned Storm has died before already.
Didn't Doug also die during the time of the fall of the mutants
The Handbook was pretty good but wished they released it after X of Swords with the entries of the Swordbearers of Arakko, the First Horsemen and Summoner.
Yeah, an Arakko guidebook would be awesome
Well it's title X of Swords Handbook #1 which means it could have a #2 part and even a #3 part.
I’d kill for a mini series about the arakko sword bearers
What do you make of the (deliberate) ambiguity around whether or not Krakoan resurrections are new people, or restored original 'souls'? I keep wondering if the White Hot Room / astral plane will come into it. Love your vids.
Wolverine met Mariko when he was searching for Muramasa to get his sword.
Cassandra Nova IN BEAST'S MIND. Makes total sense why Beast has been acting the way he's acting!
Destroy Krakoa from the inside via their security. Sounds like something she'd do
@@bradonbriffa9690 She could have Dark Beast on ice ready to take the fall if thing get too hairy oh it was Dark Beast all along wink wink, while Reg Beast is all good. Further cementing her and Beast in their powerful position! Especially if they have Dark Beast to use to blame in the future
@@F00LSG0LD215 actually maybe Nova will act as a benevolent character after what Jean did to her in red. She's been considered the anti-Xavier and with Xavier being very cult leaderish she may have taken up his old methods made her own X-men team. Not saying your wrong but it's a different angle to look at. Hell see could be doing both.
Loved this breakdown man, a lot of great threads dangling. I would lose my mind if Magneto came through with SWORD and the alien forces
Lol, what if Forget Me Not is the tenth Swordbearer, and his powers affect not only his physical reality, but stories of his presence as well? What if he was initially mentioned by Polaris in Saturnyne's prophecies, but everyone forgot or didn't notice?
The nineth swordbearer is Gorgon, who is also the tenth as he has two swords
good video. i was debating reading the handbook as it looked at first like just a rehash of what is going on so far of things we already knew. Now i will go read it for sure.
oh man that all new X-factor run is actually so much fun, i totally recommend it haha! it made Danger one of my favourite characters, so i hope she shows up in an X book soon. if i remember right she almost hooks up with scarlet witch too!
Dude, you hurt my brain. I'll be back for more.
Everyone having an "umm actually" moment in the comments about Storm's death in Fall of the Mutants is my favourite part about this community
If Magneto shows up wielding the SWORD station I might just actually lose my shit!
I hope Magik keeps Pogg as a pet. 🥰
I dont know if it will be significant, but Gloriana's entry states she can understand any language spoken by interpreting the intend with which the words are spoken. Maybe she'll replace Doug as an interpreter for Krakoa? A back-up?
Sinister still has the DNA of all the mutants, so even if they can’t be brought back by the 5, can’t they at *least* be cloned without the screwed up resurrection issue? I want to know what happens if Logan knocks up Jean Grey in another hot tub scene? 1. I’d love to see Cyclops “open marriage” reaction, and 2. how awesome would that kid be??
Dope vid as always!!!!!
😎 and thanks ps/pronounce it ‘ a-tom-a- ton’. - there’s no maton it’s an ‘ah-tomaton’ lol, no mating going on. 😂
I would say auto-mah-tons is the correct pronunciation....
Gorgon said the reason he is interested in the tournament is because it called on BOTH of his blades so that cracks the theory there..
But he puts them both in the same circle. And they're listed as a single unit in the data page. I'm convinced there's a separate 10th.
@@Comicbookherald you still think there’s a tenth Sword Bearer for Krakoa even though in Stasis all fighters have traveled to Otherworld and the tournament is essentially underway? A single data page may have grouped Gorgon’s swords together but pretty much everywhere else the ten swords have been named including the video you did on them.
@@Comicbookherald yes but it did not specify that they had to be put on the specific circle just the one who wielded them
@@Comicbookherald But.. they named only 10 swords for Krakoa, they are accounted for. AND they also said that they needed all the swords to activate the circle.
Add to that when Polaris gave the prophies, she uttered only 8, one mentions two people "twins" which we know is the Braddock twins. Another mentions "two wars fought by one champion".
Between naming of the swords and identifying the champions mentioned by the prophies, they are accounted for and seems to imply Gorgon will wield two of the named swords and fight two fights.
Besides, it's halfway through the event, Its rather late to add a 11th sword and 10th champion.
@@Comicbookherald - I'm getting the feeling that Magneto was originally supposed to be 1 of the sword bearers (possibly wielding the Cerebro Sword?), but then they decided to change the story (maybe due to Ben Percy finding a better use of the Cerebro Sword in X-Force).
I guess they could still somehow get Magneto to be a sword bearer, but all the evidence seems to point to that not being the case:
He had no prophecy, they just glossed over the fact that they were able to complete the ritual even though there weren't 10 sword bearers to complete the circle, each 1 of them had their own Tarot card upon arrival, all the removals of him from various pieces of art during this event and the fact that he wasn't even in the Handbook.
So I noticed that in the handbook for Krakoa 029 Unidentified Forked Tower looks very similar to the tower of Nimrod the lesser in Power of X and the power of ascension in Power of X card "tower".. you think this will lead to Nimrod still occurring?
I have a simple dream for two beings. Logan and Mariko Yashida. Why the hell these two souls can not be left alone together by any writers from yesterday, today and tomorrow? Wait, another pair. Ororo and Forge... LifeDeath anyone - BW-S?! Wait!? Peter and Kitty. I guess Im just going to read old X-men stories.
They should resurrect Bloodstorm since she was completely different to this universe’s Storm. Also, I hope Forgetmenot has a heroic moment because he is one of my favorite X-Men.
bloodstorm is considered an alternative reality version of storm so no resurrection for her.
Thanks!!
I have read everything up to date but are there any possible future spoilers in this?
It's only my assumption but i think ForgetMeNot may be 10th swordbearer. His shotout somewhat be a clue to this.
Despite my vast precognitive abilities, I dont have any access to future comics that haven't been released. I do tend to theorize things I think *might* happen!
@@Comicbookherald haha yes but you been getting quite a few right guesses so far like the identity of Annihilation etc, so it almost does feel like spoilers. Great job though, I been watching every single X-men related video of yours.
Also, Storm died in Siege Perilous. And then was resurrected by Roma.
Many people have already pointed out that Hickman's "The Many Lives of Moira MacTaggert" in House of X #2 was very similar to the plot device of Claire North's "The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August". I wonder if the inclusion of ForgetMeNot came about because of Claire North's "The Sudden Appearance of Hope" whose title character has the same power [Please note that ForgetMeNot appeared before Hope].
Please do video on questionable mutants.
Wasn't Cerebro turned into a sword after X was killed? If Magneto is a sword user that will be his
I could be wrong but I believe the handbook lists Danger as a mutant. I'm also curious, I feel the handbook goes out of its way not to define Meggan as a mutant but stays vague. She is a mutant, correct? I need to review what is says about Mimic, Longshot, and Shatterstar. Also, isn't Warlock considered a mutant for his species? The handbook seems to not mention that.
@Cecil Pierre Oh I don't think Danger is a mutant but I think it's listed that she is in the X-men roster at the back of the handbook.
Storm died alongside all the other X-Men involved in the Siege Perilous following the battle in Dallas when they battled a demon possed Naze.
Well here a theory the celestials caretaker predecessors are either humans, inhumans, elternals, and deviants that then lead to our apocalypse role as the 8th like they are feasibly the only races that old enough to garner the celestials attention for evolution
The simple answer regarding warlock and why is cipher hiding him. Well for one he isn’t a mutant. He’s a technogarky or something to that effect. Only mutants are allowed to stay/live on Krakoa
Magneto wielding S.W.O.R.D. the space station... OMG please make that happen.
It’d make for great chaos/left field entertainment but wouldn’t really make any sense given the build up to the story halfway into it.
@@210SAi Not completely out of left field, the station returned in this event and is being used in Cable so it is safe to asume that it will play a rol.
@@alejandromilici7763 I agree it appeared in the Cable issue but other than the appearance it hasn’t been used since that. Guess we’ll have to wait and see what the next Cable issue is about.
Cyclops has a backup plan
Was there a retcon on on Megan that I missed or something because she's a fairy creature not a mutant or at least that's how I remember her from the original run
@@iil3194 ok, damn i could have swore she was a fey creature....but oh well lol
Apocalypse war is coming ... I bet that the villian he is fighting is a time displaced version of him of some sort
Mercertur (spelling) seems very similar to what Jean, Scott and Cable found on the Sword base. Am I completely off base???
Great video as always! I’m not sure how I’d feel about Broo bringing in the Brood as a trump card for this event...I’ve never liked stories where they bring in something last minute that wasn’t alluded to earlier in the story.
How dare you question the use of deus ex machina! It is a long held tradition as a get out of jail free card plot device since ancient Greece!
I believe Cyclops and Illyana talking about rain and transportation does mean they are planning to bring in an assault force via Magik's portals.
@@twothirdsanexplosive at least in your theory Magik is a Sworbearer and has been shown plotting something with Cyclops. Meanwhile Broo and the King Brood story has nothing to do with the X of Swords event.
Yeah the second I saw the Automatons I was like, " oh semi-sentient robot servants that's going to end well, hey Terminator is on tonight I love that movie about semi-sentient former robot servants killing everyone." Probably part of Skynet uh i mean Krakoas self indulgent plans. They are literally spreading a single consciousness of a predatory island across the planet and cosmos how could this possibly end well? Every time I see a new gate I wonder if it's a situation like Gaurdians of the Galaxy 2 with Ego spreading himself... Sorry for ranting
Ooo what if cassandra nova is in beast
I got the "empyre" handbook & it was a waste of my time & money. Broo!! I Ioooove him-he's a great charactor.
I can’t think of a comic handbook that was anything but a cash grab
Do you think the Sidri could play a rol? They apparently befriended Cypher.
BROO WILL BE MANGAGING S.W.O.R.D. I SWEAR
Meggan isn't a mutant. Or did I miss something?
I'm not very sure but meggan daughter is a mutant.
She's been a mutant since the beginning
Sooooooo I did miss something lol. I had always thought she was a type of Fae. Is she a straight up mutant or does she have some Fae blood mixed in?
Was Danger the entity in the Giant X-men Storm issue
No it was referred to as The World and the other person there was Phantomex’s clone/brother
It is magneto If u look in stasis on the page after saturnyne smashes her hammer and sez order after taking votes ( page 10 i think ) she is standing looking in a pool like window with her blue fish like 2nd Viewing the 9 xmen sword bearers standing around the circles he is standing there on the left side next to storm but then in the next pic he is gone . Figured it may just be a misdirect though as gorgon has 2 swords
I saw that too after it was pointed out to me later. Super weird since the same panel was drawn bigger on the next page with Magneto missing. I still think having Magneto be a sword bearer is still too out there and weird despite the SWORD base being made of metal so Magneto could "wield" it.
“Purse-uh-phone” lol
It’s “per-seh-phoney.” Gotta brush up on that Greek Mythology, my dude!
he's the worst at mispronouncing things!
Also automaton is AW TOM aTAHN
Thank God Antigone isn't a comic character lol
I had to do a double take at the screen when I head that, lol
if we actually want to be sticklers on pronunciations it's pronounced per-seh-phoney with the accent in "phOney" :D
Do you think Gorgon ends up fighting 2 opponents because he has 2 blades?
yes, though not at same time
Karoka only has 9 swordbears because Gorgon has 2 swords
do you think it was a mistake or intentional to call wanda a reality altering mutant when they talked about house of m?
Who is ‘they’?
@@210SAi the writers and editors who made the handbook
@@lightnigstriker I must be missing where House of X is mentioned in the handbook. Time stamp?
@@210SAi 19:06 right when hes starts talking about forgetmenot
@@lightnigstriker oh wow that’s either an editorial error or they’re speaking about how at the time she was a mutant. If the later they should explain that she’s no longer classified as a mutant.
Could Eye-boy remember Forget-Me-Not??
Nope
I still wonder where's laura all new wolverine
Stuck in the Vault with Synch & Darwin
I think Hickman might have forgotten about her by now. lo!
@@lsdeann_3293 no that’s just typical Hickman writing. He’ll get back to it at some point in future issues.
Does it explain how these aren't clones?
Like we know your souls a tangible thing in the Marvel universe so if you die you can't just be "resurrected" without your soul
Like when silver samurai died he had his soul obliterated by the devil
Your soul or spirit is the only thing science or powers can't just duplicate
So your spirit is a tangible thing that's immutable in the Marvel universe
You can't just say that you are making an "advanced copy" Of a person's memories throw it in a meat bag and to say that it's them
Sorry buddy whether it comes from I pod or a test tube a clone is a clone
Unless in one of these comic books it shows you that when the characters die there is a mutant that snatches their soul out of the ether and throws it into their new bodies
You just watched many your favorite characters die and get replaced by clones and applauded
And with amorally dubious Prof X the council that has the hell fire club on it and Apocalypse on it Feels like the kind of sick twisted leadership that would do that sort of thing
Megan has been shown on cover for future Excalibur, so maybe she has roles to play.
I wouldn't compare Forge's Automations to the Inhumans alpha primitves. Wasn't the later shown to be sentient? According to Marvel Datapage, they did have a limited intelligence, that of a 6 yr old.
Maybe would be better to compare Forge's automations to robots, (and given recent events in Marvel with AIs that woul still be trouble)...wait they were made with "florinics" (plant tech) right? So they likely have an organic compound. But "automation" brings to mind robotics, artificial. ... confusing.
But consider that there have been spores from Krakoa that's survived in the past (Son of Krakoa) and clones of Krakoa that have their separate sentience ... yeah it's possible the automations could potentially gain intelligence
Did they ever finish the story with Darwin?
Not yet
Nop. Laura Darwin and thr other guy are still in the world, i think that was thr place
@@luizpaulonm Synch, Darwin and Laura/Wolverine
Maybe they’ll just come back powered up but if I’m remembering it correctly the time distortion was supposed to be pretty wild
@@johnwilson5465 The Original Children of the Vault story from X-Men Legacy had tons of potential but was soon dropped so I’m sure Hickman has lots of plans for revisiting this story in the future
Betsy Braddock vs War
Wolverine vs Summoner
Magneto vs Solem
Captain Avalon vs White sword
Cypher vs Redroot
Storm vs Death
Magik vs Isca the Unbeaten
Gorgon vs Bei the Blood Moon
Cable vs Pogg Ur-Pogg
Apocalypse vs Annihilation
Magneto isn’t there and doesn’t have a Sword.
@@210SAi he was on the ten of swords tarot card with a sword so I guess we have to wait and see
Wolverine is fighting Solem. That's been obvious since the writers said Solem will be Wolverine's new nemesis.
@@cjtrules1 the tarot card showed him and summoner having a struggle so I went off that even tho yea wolverine and solem had a face off in the earlier issue
@@channierichardson8440 Which tarot? In Stasis or an earlier issue?
So did this confirm Wanda is still a mutant?
Oh cool thanks, I skipped this in my pull
I've been reading all books related to the entire X-Men(& Avengers) universe since '88(the Inferno Era), & reading comics retroactively, & what I don't get is: who thought it was a good idea to [recently] start calling major mutant events: House/Powers of X(as in ten)? I'm in full agreement w/Rob Jefferson aka Comics Explained in saying the titles/events should've inexplicably been called: Swords of X, etc. Leaving no doubt that it's an official X-Men event. Many people are calling it Ten of Swords, I mean, even if that's how it was released, X doesn't mean ten in the X-Men universe. They're the X-Men, not 10 men
Morrison's New X-Men asserting Wolverine is Weapon Ten (X as a Roman numeral) is the earliest iteration I'm familiar with. In this instance, the Ten of Swords is a tarot card.
A simple hyphen distinguishes when it’s ten versus the letter X.
It’s not that big a deal unless you OCD over it. Ten Men would be X Men.
@@Comicbookherald yes, Wolverine was the 10 iteration of the Weapon X project, but he himself is not Weapon X, as 5 other mutants were also apart of the project. The entire roster of Team X were subjected to the Weapon X project. Wraith, Maverick, Sabretooth & Logan were all part of the project
Swords of X as Comics Explained called it sounds lame AF. 10 of swors is related to the tarot cards that are prevalent throughout the event.
@@Blakk_Wolf7 depends what origin you are looking at. He is listed as the Tenth Weapon beginning with Capt America as Weapon I en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_Plus
It's auto-ma-tons my guy.
First!!!!
You pronounce words and mutant names oddly...
Auto-ma-tahns not auto-may-tens
Why are u calling it 10 of swords? Has it been 10 Men, 10 Factor, 10 Force, Weapon 10 all these years???? Its "Ex" of Swords. Stop trying to be 10tra.....I mean Xtra!😂
I apologize I was wrong and uninformed. I am know nothing of the card reading world and didn't get the reference.
Kinda sucky art for marvel. Definitely not their better stuff.
Moira so far has nothing to do with XoS, though this book is a good read it's just a quick synapts of each characters and not 100% accurate. Like Apocalypse finding the Celestial tech "at some point" and lossing his family being mentioned after, if this was intented to be the order of events ts wrong. In X-Force 37 among other issues he found the Celestial ship in about the mid 12th century and according to Genesis with others said that what happened to them was 1000yrs ago or more. That's why I don't like some of these handbooks and people using them as official when whom ever make the handbook only used short notes and didn't do the full research. Again not all handbooks are like this but to me this XoS Handbook is one of the not so good ones.
I don't mind the whole 8th Apocalypse thing by the Celestials but Apocalypse can't die, even if someone else takes up the title Nur will still be around. Unlike everyone else that if they die during this XoS thing is done, but Apocalypse is an External and can only be permanently killed by another External and that only will work if that External kills every other External, and become a god. Likely if they due do this Apocalypse title thing it wouldn't be someone not connected to the Celestials, I mean just cause some of these people came back doesn't mean their in the running, unless it was through the Celestials tech. I doudt we'll see Genesis do to him being a clone and this whole island thing going on.
They whole timeline were Moira joined Apocalypse, became his wife and helped him save his children very telling as to what Apocalypse is really playing at. Also that his wife Genesis is nowhere to be seen. Moira's resurrection changes everything that has happened after her birth is rewritten, not the events that took place before.
She did make a brief appearance when her Cerebro back up unit failed
@@210SAi True but doesn't mean she'll play a role in this XoS. That and she's hiding so only Magneto and Xavier know she's there.