I might have spent $1,500 in maintenance in 10 years. A set of tires, a serpentine accessory drive belt, a battery, 2 cabin filters, oil changes, tire rotations, and the rubber trim that goes under the windows at the top of the doors and around the base of the radio antenna. This is the best vehicle I have ever owned. I may have this truck till I die, but if I ever get another truck it will be another Tundra. I am so sold on Toyota that when we needed another car we bought an Avalon. Toyota for life!
bought a new f150 at the beginning of 2012 and it was a 2011 model xlt crew 4wd 5.0 v8. It had 108,000 miles on it when i traded it in 2017 and got $15k for it and it was wrecked 8 times. If that doesn't speak volume i don't know what does.
Wildman .. Written by a man sitting in front of an asian-built computer. Perhaps you hate the USA? Anyway, you're full of crap. Very little you've written about the Tundra is true. Those sales numbers are increasing and fuel economy is not the primary concern with a serious truck. The rest is sheer nonsense, but I guess nonsense is all you have to fall back on. USA, Tundra, USA, Tundra, USA, Tundra! LOL.
GaynNovi ok genius got a Ford lot and tell me how many f150s are on their lot they build so many of those things then can't sell them so they sit there until they offer a steep discount then they sell a year and a half after it was built
jldude84 yep just sold a new 2015 f150 at midtown motors 13000 thousand dollars of of msrp because they couldn't sell it when they got it on the lot for the $52000 that was on the sticker
""Tundra is strong enough to tow space shuttle. Tundra went 1 million miles on one single engine without being rebuild. Tundra seat fabric didn't even worn-out after 1 million miles. Tundra frame lasted 1 million miles. Tundra cab corners lasted one million miles. Tundra exhaust manifold bolts lasted 1 million miles. Tundra engine lasted 1 million miles without blowing spark plugs. Tundra is the only million miles gas truck without problems. To many people focus on looks and forget that looks are deceiving. To many people call reliability is outdated, and favor issues as advanced technology. I know truth hurts, but it's reality.""
i really wanted to buy an f150, and before i bought my tundra i was headed to the ford dealer, and for some reason i took a tundra out and changed my mind. i think the only thing i really liked better about the ford was the mpg. I don't tow, and don't use the bed... but the increased resale will cover that little difference in fuel. the most expensive part of owning a truck is not the fuel... its the depreciation.
I really like the explanation of the transfer case. I think it shows how Toyota has achieved its reputation while still using a supplier. I drive a Sierra and love it but Tundra was right there at the top of my list. GMC offered more rebate were Tundra did not. I wonder now after listening to this if its because Toyota actually pays more for the quality control of their trucks.
I have to say that this video is much better than other dealership videos. However, literally everything they made a point about can be argued against in the F-150s favor. I mean really, the 2.7 is nowhere near the volume leader. They won't put it up against the 3.5 because they know they don't have anything to even touch it with. Face it, the redesigned Tundra isn't anything better than the old one. Same outdated powertrain, same weak frame, same same same...
Christian Richter 401 lb ft of torque is the important part... you need torque in a truck not just horsepower.. the tundra delivers on that segment. Not to mention the fact that that 5.7 will last ages, especially when compared to any ford engine. I'd prefer a truck that won't let me down when I'm depending on it.
I had a 2015 Tundra that I replaced a 2014 F150 3.5 Ecoboost with. I was towing a 34 foot travel trailer with the F150. The F150 had a higher "rating" for towing. The F150 would be scary to tow this camper with because of the way it would sway. It had the anti sway that would take over but it was still pretty scary knowing that I had lost control for a few seconds. When I hooked up the same camper to the Tundra there was a DRAMATIC difference. There was no sway at all. I felt like I had complete control of the camper all the time. It makes me wonder how they came up with their towing capacities since the Ford was rated higher than the Tundra but the Tundra was obviously better in real world application. This let me know how underrated the Tundra really is.
Wildman if I’m spending my hard earned money, I’m buying something that lasts, and holds its value. You don’t get any brownie points for being overly patriotic and loyal to a company that doesn’t give two shits about you. 🤣dumbshit. The Toyota always pisses on the fords grave.
This is not a "fair" comparison... you keep saying apples to apples, and it is obviously not. You say the tundra is representative of the volume truck. But you forget to mention that the volume truck is a (4.6L) sr5. The truck that you chose for the comparison is a TRD with a 5.7! Then you price the MSRP of the volume tundra, not the TRD you represent... this eliminates the price advantage that you mention. F150 on paper has the tundra beat in every aspect that you mention. Gas mileage, towing, weight, price, engineering, and technology... Facts are twisted in ways to be biased towards Tundra. Let's be honest, any relatively educated consumer with a little bit of research could see right through this poorly made video.
I will think about hard about your comments the next time I drive my Lexus to pick my wife up at the Ford dealership because her Expedition is broken down again. The Expedition is a beautiful SUV and we were in love with it when we bought it. Unfortunately, it’s a straight up POS. Never trust Ford! I had a Tundra for 10 years and the only problem I had was when some dumbass kid that was texting and driving totaled it for me.
I just came off vacation. On the trip, I got 17.3 mpg going up due to carrying 1500 lbs of weight. Coming back i got 20 mpg for got rid of a few lbs. I would but another tundra no matter what. I have gotten 23.4 on a vacation and no problems at all. Mine is a 2014 Tundra Platinum 2 wheel drive. Love it.
+scterka You're missing a huge point. Ford fleet sales are responsible for that claim, not civilian sales. I work for a pipeline inspection company and deal with all the big oil and chemical companies and I have seen the sales quotes from Ford, Chevrolet and Dodge and Toyota. Ford is basically GIVING their trucks away to these companies. It doesn't take a genius to see how Ford maintains their "record".
@@user-maxim_79 im a Toyota guy ,but that 5.0 is one if not the best motor ever built, im in a farming community an the farmers won't buy new fords anymore because they are stopping v8 builds . Im starting to see more driving tundras. That says alot because farmers love there fords an Chevys.
@@baine5.7 no comparison to the bullet proof 5.7 3URFE! One of the best built v8 engines! 500k mile engine! In fact there are million mile ones documented! Far superior to the 5.0
Tundra sucks they break so much that's why they give you Toyota care for all the repairs the piece of shit truck will be needing just from a 20 mile trip home
Kajun Really? Is that why 2005 Ford has 205k miles on it and no major repairs? Routine maintenance like fluid changes, filters, brakes, and tune ups are all I've done on it. No rust, either.
I currently own a 2011 Tundra 4x4 5.7 quad cab 4.30 rear and a 2015 F150 4x4 3.5 turbo crew cab 3.73 rear. Both trucks are good. Both have pulled my 28ft travel trailer with family in cab and items in bed. The Tundra did great but only gets 13 mpg normal driving and 8 towing. My F150 gets 20 normal driving and 11 towing. The F150 pulls up to speed better and maintains speed better. I really like Tundras, drove a 2015 before getting F150. Looks great great inside and out just power train feeling dated. I've owned a Ram, Chevy and a Titan before getting these. F150 with aluminum body is tuffer body and 3.5 turbo has torque for days coming on at 2300 rpm. My two cents.
mohammadkwt I drove one and didn't like it. Plus my tundra can pull 10,500 pounds and the F150 I bought can pull 10,700 pounds. The v8 pulled less. I am a big fan of a good V8 but I have to say this newer version of the 3.5 ec is pretty impressive. I'd like to see a small turbo v8 option. I grew up modding trucks and am a fan of super chargers and turbos. I think the technology could be a good thing for the market. Besides if it works out to be a lame truck I'll just go to something else.
Traves Hartman you can tow 11,000 lbs with the 5.0 towing package ( added upgrades ) as the V8 turbo ford will make it for the raptor in 2018 5.0 V8 ecoboost .
Your right, you can get 11,700 with the 3.5 ecoboost 4x4 crew with the heavy duty payload package. But it only comes on the lariat or king ranch. 12,200 with 3.5 ecoboost 2x4 regular cab regular box. Either way pretty impressive for a 1/2 ton.
I love how they keep saying "apples to apples" but they're comparing a 5.7L to a 2.7L. Both trucks are awesome and I'd be happy as hell to own either, but the 3.5L has blown my mind with it's power and durability. While retaining value is nice if you're buying new, if you're intelligent enough to buy something in excellent shape that's just a few years old this is actually a huge advantage for the Ford. The engine, and the rest of the truck, has proven over the years that it holds up like new for hundreds of thousands of miles. Personally I'd be much happier buying a used F150 with a 3.5L for half the price of a new 5.7L Tundra. It just makes sense. Especially if you do your own maintenance and repairs and know what to look for as many truck owners do.
I have the 2016 tundra TRD Pro. Great truck. A real goat when it comes to off road driving. Love Ford but amazed at the cab room and performance of the tundra. Only draw back is fuel efficiency
What they aren't telling you about the pricing comparisons here is that Toyota dealers do not negotiate. The price is the price. So the $44,000 F-150 really is a $35,000 truck after rebates. I priced out a Tundra 1794 edition when I ordered my 2015 F-150 Lariat and it came out to $55,700 CAD after taxes, for a loaded 1794 edition truck. The Lariat ended up being about $800 less after taxes (and the lease payment is $300 per month cheaper on comparable 24 month leases for the F-150). The F-150 has adaptive cruise, lane keeping assist, 360 camera, a panoramic sunroof, active park assist, LED lights all around, more torque, better fuel economy, better towing....the list goes on. What does the loaded 1794 Tundra have? None of that. So why should I buy a Tundra?
It has rock solid reliability, something the Ford you just bought doesn't have, as you will slowly find out during your ownership of the truck. Report back at 100,000 miles all the problems you've had with your twin turbo ecoboost F150.....'nuff said
Where's your proof that it has rock solid reliability? Just because it wears a Toyota badge doesn't necessarily mean the world. I work at a dealership (not Ford) and I've had plenty of Tundras traded in that the owners say they had their share of issues with. Plus, I always lease my trucks when interest rates are low regardless of the brand so I will never know, nor will I care what happens to my truck in 100k miles. So for the 3 years and 60,000 miles I own my trucks I'm not going to compromise features, driving dynamics, fuel economy, styling, comfort, value for money and overall ownership experience just because some guy told me it's more reliable based on the theory that a Toyota badge carries unsurpassed merit. It doesn't.
It's a free country, drive what you like. But, your post says it all: You aren't really concerned with reliability because you don't keep your truck long enough to find out what it's TRUE reliability is (you said yourself 3 years/100k miles - ANY new car/truck can go that long with no major issues and be relatively problem-free). Go to 200k, 300k or more and then let's talk (and I speak from experience - my Titan has 268k and counting, NO major engine/transmission issues and dead-nuts reliable). You work at a dealership as ???? What, a tech? A service advisor? Sales? Notice that I drive a NISSAN, not a TOYOTA, yet I'm defending TOYOTA. And I'd but another Titan over an F150 any day of the week because I know it will be dependable. How do I know? Let's see - personal experience as an ASE-certified Master Auto & M/H Truck Technician for 20 years and having worked on PLENTY of F-series in those 20 years. Do you use your truck as a truck? Or just a grocery-getter/daily driver? Take it off-road at all? I'm guessing no to all, since you only keep 'em 3 years on a lease, so you can't really be too rough on them. EVERYONE knows Toyota's have excellent off-road capabilities (granted, the Tacoma, not necessarily the Tundra, but that's due more to size). Do some research and you'll find that the Tundra is consistently ranked higher in reliability (JD Power, Consumer Reports, US News, Edmunds, KBB, take your pick) than the F150. I'm not making that up, Google is your friend - do your own research if you think I'm full of crap. Now, every manufacturer will have issues with their vehicles, especially with new models and new technology. The current (2015) F150 falls into that category - new model, (relatively) new technology (ecoboost). There is NO WAY a twin-turbo engine will be more reliable over the long haul than a NA engine. Neither will GDI. You won't feel that, because you won't have it long enough to find out (most likely). I don't lease vehicles. I buy new and keep them a very long time. That's how you get value out of something. In order to do that you need to buy something that will last and be cost-efficient. That's where my original statement came from. Have a nice day.
They really need to compare it to Fords 5.0 V8, I think the tundra would still win, but it would be closer. I mean the 2.7 vs 5.7, this is not an apples to apples comparison. I understand that they are going by sales numbers, but it helps that the Tundra only has 2 engine options, the F150 has 4. Funny though how they didn't mention iihs safety ratings. Ford gets an iihs top safety pick. Tundra is poor, or marginal in almost every catagory. Both great trucks, though.
This is a Toyota ad remember. There's not even a Ford rep there, lol. In 2017 at least, the Ford beat's the Toyota in every category, maybe except reliability, but Ford isn't the cheap 90's company you remember. They've changed for the better. But I shouldn't be surprised by your comment, considering you have a Tundra profile pic.
My boss man and his son both drive F150 (boss drives king ranch) both around 50k miles and been to dealer more than my 06 toyota. 120k miles and counting! only had to replace radiator, oil pan/ valve cover gasket, which is pretty short service list for 12 years old.
My 2016 Tundra came with factory running boards, mud flaps, chip guard on the lower side panels and sprayed in bedliner. Thses extras are worth about $3000, F-150 and Ram 1500 didn't come with them. I test drove 2016 F-150, Ram 1500 and Tundra. Tundra was the clear winner to me in ride comfort, stability, turning, stopping and looks. The roll down rear window on the Tundra was an added benefit I wasn't aware of before test driving it. The next few years will determine whether Toyota's reliability, durability and maintenance costs keep me as a customer.
Tundra will out last the Ford F-150. In my personal experience on every Toyota cars, SUV, Mini Van and Truck. They last for a long time. I now own 2004 Tundra bought it in 2008 ( own it for10 years now). This truck is running as good as the first day I bought it. The only thing I did to is change oil every three months and buy new tires. Great truck!
Pretty decent review. When it comes to half-tons all are pretty much on par. Value probably should be the deciding factor in making a selection. I was pretty impressed with the 2015 Tundra I looked at.
Had a series of Toyota trucks and I work in timber - they are most reliable and because they are tough a used truck is the best deal given the immediate depreciation of a new rig. My current Tundra TRD has 200K and the radiator is all I've done. Probably should do timing belt soon. I drove dodges, fords and chevys in the USFS and the dodges were the best there. Gov could not buy foreign built trucks.
2010 tundra only gets 13 miles per gallon...BUT when I towed 6000 lbs over Chinook Pass in Washington state.... it still got 13 miles per gallon. No brag, just fact. 2010 4 door, 55k miles, 5.7, with factory TRD exhaust. Super smooth ride towing the trailer. I might add some air bags in the back , cuz the trailer put 560 pounds of weight on the tow hitch.
Not to mention that tundra can be factory supercharged without voiding your warranty and thats the another reason tundra has all the heavy duty parts so owner can customize it
Jitenderpal Dhillon if you notved they don’t make that kit anyone and they don’t saw why.... it’s cuz it compromised the reliability since the engine couldn’t handle it. And that was the only way you got that shit engine to make any power.
I own my trucks until they cost me more then they are worth. I've had a lot of Fords and GM's and I've had a lot of problems which is an understatement. I switched to Toyota Trucks and am currently enjoying the lack of problems. I own my Toyotas now and all I pay for is gasoline and general maintenance which leaves me with lots of cash in my pocket for other things. According to KBB and NADA my 2002 only lost 3k of value in the last 6 years of ownership. The guys who troll on here and try to defend their Ford just like owning a new Truck, making payments, or love fixing them. I've sure a 2015 F150 is nice, but I will bet that my 2002 Toyota will outlast it. 275,000 problems free miles vs my uncles 280,000 replaced every part twice F250. It is not shocking to me that a Ford on average can cost 11k more then a Toyota over 5 years of ownership. So basically what i'm saying is don't hate me because I have a bigger house, bigger boat, faster motorcycle all because I drive a Toyota.
I'm with you on the reliability of the Tundra. I have a 2000 Tundra that has over 360,000 miles. I just replaced a head gasket and a new starter, it still runs like a champ. I just bought a new 2017 Tundra love the new ride.
+Sierra Toyota Scion You do realize this is the internet, right? Asking people to be civil is like asking a toddler to explain Quantum Mechanics, but in binary.
What I get from this video is that the Tundra, despite being $6-8K cheaper, is only marginally inferior to the F150. This is a valid point, but it is being disguised as a "better value" argument, which is for the customer to decide. Truck buyers come from different backgrounds, have different economic situations, and have different uses for their trucks. Ultimately, comparing the "value" of two trucks is like comparing their looks and styling; it's heavily subjective, and will likely yield differing, inconsistent results. Also, the 2.7 appears to be an option optimized for the customer that uses his or her truck primarily as a commuter vehicle (perhaps for a small family) that is still capable of moderate towing and hauling, but emphasizes fuel economy. The Tundra's 5.7 is a tried and true workhorse. Therefore, the closest thing to an "apples to apples" comparison of the two trucks' capability would be comparing it to Ford's 5.0 or 3.5 EcoBoost.
I have an eco boost2.7, and I average 23 miles per gallon highway I get 26-26.5. My buddy has a 2014 tundra with the 5.7 and she is lighter on the gas then I am and averages 15.2 miles per gallon. 8 mpg differences
Big fan of Toyota trucks personally, I own a 2012 Tacoma and just love my truck, they are indeed reliable. Ford on the other hand, have indeed made major technological advancements in their design of engines, and body/frames, no one can refute that. I am impressed with Fords numbers of MPG/Tow/Torque etc, they are very competitive with today's market requirements from consumers. In contrast the Tundra is a reliable truck, anyone that says otherwise is a fool in denial, but I believe Toyota has some room to advance in their engine design potential. Although impressive, the fuel efficiency must be better nowadays to remain competitive in the American truck market. The new 2016 Tacoma announced earlier this year will hopefully start a renewed focus on their trucks, we'll finally see what Toyota has in store for their well selling midsize truck in the Tacoma. The Tundra should be their next update...assuming their engineers can take some focus away from that damn best selling Camry and Corolla a bit.
Funny thing is, the ford looks old to me already. Same as when the 09 came out... 6 months later, looks old. Guess it really caters to the senior crowd more than the younger group.
Senior crowd? Best selling truck in America, and in Canada. Not everyone is a senior. I'm 28 and I have one. Not to mention many other people who are young drive ford. Great logic
You are correct. I should take that back... but I do find the Ford design conservative. Look at the Atlas vs the 2015 F150... they KINDDA went half way to the Atlas. I had two fords prior to this Tundra. This time (like the previous fords) was based on price, and features. I really don't need a truck, I need a vehicle that gives lots of room for ppl and cargo, and some hauling from time to time of light loads. Both my previous fords were great trucks until 80,000kms-100k kms (60k mi). Pair of bad manifolds, two rear ends within 20k of each other on the 08... Just little things. Where Tundra is falling short for me in comparison to the F150 is in MPG. I'm losing 2-4L/100KM in my tundra compared to the Ford, but I got it cheaper, and liked the interior better, and was just ready to try something different. Being unsure how long I am keeping this one, I thought the Tundra was a more solid choice if i choose to keep it after the 5 year mark. And yes the Aluminium did scare me a bit, because ford has a history with me of not looking after everything they should on warranty,.
+kyle0986 And maybe when I say the Fords start to look older to me is because the Ford is so well selling, they start to look more common than a Tundra. Heck, Nissan held on to the TItan style for 13 years, and you know what... it looks a heck of a lot more modern styled than an 03 F150 would today!
@@HumblePainter more funny are the people who have continuous bad luck with fords (and other brands) and are so brand loyal they just keep buying them again and again. Chevy guys are more likely to reoffend but ford guys are bad too
The Tundra is just a decade behind the F150 and the GM twins. The Tundra looks, interior, etc. isn't there, the interior is looks cheap, the infotainment still way behind technology, I wish Toyota take it seriously to compete in the segment.
You consider that brag worthy? You can put those miles on an f150 and Silverado and that's considered just breaking them in. Let me know when you put 1,000,000+ miles on your Toyota and its still going.
I'm not saying the Tundra is a bad truck, I'm saying that the pick up truck segment is very competitive and Toyota could try harder to offer a more competitive product. Toyota has a great opportunity to improve the next generation Trundra and make it as competitive as the Ford and GM.
Jose M Brito yeah i know what your tryin to say and i 100℅ agree im not sayin that the tundra is the best too but im impress by the low maintenance i did due to mileage and its currently the highest i got of all my vehicule never had a f150 my stepfather have one he likes it i do too but he said his truck is not as reliable as.mine
I have a 2016 Tundra crewmax 4x4. Great truck reliable no problems. Plenty of power gas mileage sucks. The only part of the video that I have an issue with is the brakes. I replaced my brakes at 40k miles!! They were worn out already and I rarely tow anything. Also it is outdated but I don’t need all the fancy gadgets. But it’s been a reliable work horse. I notice on long road trips the seats start hurting my back. Could be more comfy just saying
Ford owners be honest..how many times does the ford have to go to the dealership for issues that should have been fixed when they made the truck..lol. Yes Ford looks better and is popular but Ford has those stupid broken spark plug issues.
Unfortunately you are very fanatical and hide the advantages and capabilities of the excellent Ford F150 which made it the best-selling truck in the USA for a long time and put a Toyota Tundra without specifications and is unable to pull and load weights like the Ford F150 and also does not have a davernslock 😂😂😂😂😭😭 is this called a truck 😂😂😂😂
+Bolds Yea Great quality or they use the same boring powertrains for 10 years? Once they fix the issues after 5 years they have 5 more years of reliability, but suffer in all other aspects. They put major emphasis on their QDR, but fail to mention they are behind every competitor in innovation. I've had numerous Toyotas. Toyota needs to pay attention and catch up.
beeboodu1 Toyota is always behind the curve, all Japanese car manufacturers have taken a back seat in innovation the last 20 years. Nothing exciting comes from there, they don't push any boundaries. Toyota just sells dated vehicles at over inflated prices while everyone else innovates. After others come out with technology, Toyota will follow suit if it's proven. I can't stand a company that sells it's customers dated/safe vehicles and lives of nothing more than the name they made for themselves 30 years ago.
Thamac15 that same "boring" powertrains is what makes Toyota last forever. ford keeps coming out with new technology but keeps failing. their ecoboost is a POS with reliability problems and their sync is garbage. yeah ford might have good gas mileage but your trading that for reliability. again, I have friends who work for Ford. One at the Oakville plant in Ontario and another at a Ford dealership. the horror stories they hear and see. they said they would never buy a Ford. I think I'll take their opinion over any fan boy
William Stewart and the Name they made 30 years ago... you mean still to this day? pretty sure Lexus and Toyota are ranked #1 and #2 in terms of reliability. lol good try tho
While I like the Tundra the main problem is the huge excess fuel consumption in the cold winter months when I use my 4X4 truck for daily commuting in what is often brutal winter weather....that made the difference for me. The F150 is from the start easily 20% more fuel efficient for commuting (3.5L EB), throw a very cold northern climate into the mix and in Canada where fuel prices are absolutely taxed to ridiculous levels and it made the difference between these two trucks. I do like a solid burly V8, the Tundra while being dated was certainly attractive in that department, sadly Toyota has done nothing about that for a decade, Ford has really been on the ball, win went to Ford in my case and I am really happy with it.
Troy Power I have 2 friends who work for Ford. One at a plant that builds ford's and one that works at a dealership. they both told me they would NEVER buy a Ford. Reliability issues and poor quality control. if you want a truck with good gas mileage. go with a v6
I had two Tundras, an 08 and a 14. I couldn't wait to get rid of the 14. How do you go backwards by keeping the same old 8 year old powertrain? I'm curious Toyota. Why is the auto LSD such inefficient garbage that is utterly useless? I never used my 08 as anything other than a grocery getter, it was 2wd basic truck. My 14 was a limited 4wd and now I understand what all those Ford/Chevy guys were talking about with the garbage bedbounce and auto LSD useless crap. you can't compare the F150 to a Tundra,...the Tundra compares to a last gen Titan. I traded my 14 tundra for a 15 F150 and couldn't be happier 9k miles later. The truck is a truck and the locking diff is a must have!
Did you end up with a 5.0 or one of the Ecoboosts.? I know you were leaning towards the 5.0. Toyota needs to update this truck soon their sales numbers are already down 13% YTD and they hardly sell enough as it is to keep it around.
The Tundra is a very solid truck. If you are buying something to work hard it is worth a look. The biggest downfalls I see are that it is heavy and it drinks a lot of gas. Fuelly shows the average owner getting 14 mpg overall. Owners of the 2.7 equipped F150 reported an average of 18 mpg and those driving mostly highway miles can see up to 22 mpg. That is not insignificant. Toyota really doesn't have a powertrain that competes with that little 2.7, not to mention Ram's EcoDiesel. One other issue that Toyota really needs to address is the lack of integrated trailer braking. For a truck that is so well targeted at the towing crowd that really is a major oversight and is one they should have already corrected. Why else would anyone feed a Tundra than if they needed something substantial enough to drag a heavy trailer around?
Do your research people. The Tundra is NOT a competitive vehicle. It is consistently rated in last place among full size trucks. The Tundra needed a ground up redesign years ago that never happened. They rely on less informed truck buyers to keep them selling.
I aint a GM fanboy but the trio of engines offered in the GM trucks are far from old pieces of push rod motors... Direct injection, variable valve timing, cylinder deactivation are standard on all of them!
Turbo Turbo You really are clueless aren't you. OHC and OHV are from the 1800's, both are equally old and dated. In the world of trucks you want the simplest, most reliable/proven design. Why should GM switch to OHC? More cost, more parts, more to worry about etc etc. The people that buy trucks to use them in their intended environment want reliability and simplicity, I sure as hell don't want to deal with a DOHC head when things go south after warranty. There's a reason no one in the commercial world uses Japanese trucks, if you're not using it like a car (most truck owners), then look elsewhere as they don't last.
William Stewart last i checked 4 valves per cylinder is better than 3 ESP 2.. spark plugs right in the middle is better than sideways. Only people who doesn't know would buy a pushrod motor. Something that should cost half the price of DOHC, but no they sell if for just as much. And people like you still buy it. The Tacoma "dohc" is more of a truck than its competitors. Canyon and Colorado? Lol. Jokes.
The Tundra essentially remains the same since the 2007 model year. Just restyled with a few updates. The motor has stayed the same as well as other technologies. Come on Toyota, quit resting on your laurels. It's time to step up to the plate. All of the other automakers have really nailed it lately. You have let yourself get behind. I know you can do better.
+guy proulx why keep it the same when it's clear no one buys them the sales numbers are pathetic and keep going down. Hello get a clue and update the dam thing.
***** how many different engines have Ford gone through since '06, seems they can't get it right and that's why domestics keep re-inventing themselves lol, at least Toyota is the most reliable with the best resale in the business at that's why i buy them, with a reputation that solid why wouldn't i
guy proulx So the Tundra has the same engine since 07 and still sells like shit. Your point? Sales are down 13% YTD say what you want but the Tundra is a turd that no one wants .
***** the reason, Murica, i'm sure you never even test drove a Tundra like all the other sheep that buy domestics without even looking at the Tundra, the Tundra is on par with the F-150 for having the most american made parts, GM and Dodge use parts made in China lol, well actually Dodge is a FIAT now so it shouldn't even be mentioned, with their past to present reliability scores i wouldn't even consider buying that junk, 90% of people who buy "domestics" mostly buy them thinking they are the most "american" or they buy a Ford or a GM because their whole family has been loyal to that brand for decades, it's simple as that, i'm sure if they bouth one Tundra and kept it for 5 years and saw how reliable they are for themselves, chances are they wouldn't buy another domestic unless they needed bigger to tow a humongous fifth wheel or something like that, most you tubers like yourself flap their mouth and bullshit on a truck they've never owned, myself i've owned them all except for that junk Dodge so at least i have experience so i can comment on what is the most reliable and the best bang for the money and in my experience it's been Toyota by far
I just traded my 2013 F15 ecoboost for a tundra, a 2010 with 3 times the mileage. Why? the ecoboost overheated towing 8k lbs. Over & over. Tundra pulls just as well, slower, but just as well. And 1 MPG better all around. The EcoBoost is a gas pig. I sleep at night now knowing my truck won't break down. I've e owned Chev, powerstrokes, expeditions, explorers. All had maint issues....
Chuck Elliott ecoboost piece of crap. I'll choose a naturally aspirated v8 over a turbo 6 any day. turbos will never last as long as a naturally aspirated.
Chuck Elliott I have friends who work for Ford here in ONTARIO and they both told me they would never buy a Ford. Reliability and poor quality control is a big issue
This truck is perfect for where I live; the Navajo Rez. USA made. Light steering, truck has smooth throttle getting up hills. Towing through sandrock then into soft sand and back through sandrock rock and after a lesser vehicle tills up the sand. You won't understand if you've never had those types of conditions
all I can said is Ford f-150can be the most selling truck, but in the end it's loss his trade value, have many issues especially after 5 years, this truck is designed for breaking down, many Ford owners ended out spending money on repairs, instead of saving. I know many are proud just cause is a American truck, I respect that, but here is about save money not wasting in headaches.
+Scott Weird, turbos are becoming more and more a part of all manufacturers designs. Toyota has turbos in some of their lineup as well. the aluminum repairs are not significant enough to raise insurance premiums,...my 15 f150 lariat insurance went down $14 compared to my 14 limited tundra with the same exact coverage. You're assessment is wrong.
+Thamac15 did you bother researching the cost of repairing alumunum ? the reason the insurance went down for you're Ford is because the Tundra has higher resale value therefore costing the insurance company more to replace a Tundra, simple as that
+juan cacer haha FordTech guy makes me laugh. He didn't want to have any ecoboost issues so he chose an ecodiesel that is suffering from all sorts of major issues i.e. coolant lines disintegrating, fuel pump issues, def issues, egr issues etc etc etc.
juan cacer i work at a fiat plant and they won't use Ram trucks. The fords are always breaking as well. Wish Toyota or Hyundai would step up and put some competition in the hd segment .
the ford is a better looking truck imo, but for long term reliability i'd go with the the Tundra all day. i currently own an 07 silverado and love it, but im seriously considering Tundra as my next one
I like the Tundra, especially the reliability. Just wished Toyota made it more competitive in fuel economy and performance. I'm looking to buy a new truck and it's gonna have to be a Ford. Please Toyota, modernize your damn truck! ...without compromising on reliability.
I will give this Toyota rep props at least he acknowledges that the 2015 f150 has some impressive features to it like the 2.7 ecoboost engine and the all aluminum body. the only thing that's holding their truck division back from really competing in the u.s. truck market is toyota themselves. the higher ups at toyota in japan seem to lack enthusiasm to really go after and truly compete in the u.s. truck market. they have no diesel option for the tundra and no HD trucks in their lineup to speak of to go up against dodge, gm and ford's HD lineup and that's what's really hurting Toyota from seriously competing in the u.s truck market right now.
SteelCity1981 lol, ever seen one of those mini Japanese trucks with the massively over-sized loads on them, rather ridiculous loads they do over there. I agree with you man, but everyone has to start somewhere. I think that sometime in the future Toyota with be on-par with the F-150 and the other American trucks. You have to admit the standard 308 Axle is a good feature to have on the truck though.
Ghostrecon66 thing is if the higher ups at Toyota in japan would put as much effort in their trucks as they do with their cars they would have been on par with the big 3 right now or close to it. they have had over 2 decades to compete in the half ton market in since the t-100 debuted, so it's not like they are new to the half ton game in America.
Fanboys are hating hard but the truth hurts. Toyota Tundra is the best 1/2 tone on the market. It's overengineered. Will never go back to any other truck.
It's the best because why?? Because you have one?? Ford is the number one truck. Period. You have no say. Your Tundras frame couldnt handle half of what a fords could. You got nothing
I will tell you right now my 2015 f-150 smokes ever tundra any day. Like really, go figures toyota is making their truck look better, like give me a break. 2015 F-150 won pickup truck of the year. Last time I checked tundra hasn't won anything in along time. And still C-channel frame? Where's the durability? I don't see it. Yet here's the f-150, all aluminum, 75% stronger steal frame,10X's more towing, best new tech in a truck, has thing's you wouldn't expect on a truck for the next 5 years, and etc, etc amount of more things that tundra just does not have! Like really toyota, your going to keep trying to bash the best selling truck for the last 48 some odd years? Give me a break.. Get a life, your trucks are nothing but cheap Japan junk.. And I hope I get a bunch of fan boy's commenting to tell me I'm an idiot, because it gives me the pleasure to educate some people about the better truck. Also I'm no brand loyal, I like each truck in it's own way (only Ford, Ram, Sierra, and Titan). But I will say I would never buy a tundra. But I will give that their engines are proven but still have many things that could make it a better engine.
Have you owned a Tundra before? If you have then nice. If not then okay. You have your reasons. performance wise our tundra is pretty damn good. In our opinion of course.
Ghostrecon66 I just hate video's like this. Got nothing else to say really. Yes I know all company's do it, but usually they don't have them team up on one truck and name the negatives. Because that new f-150 has a hell of a lot more positives then you think, and tons more then the tundra ( no offence).
I respect your opinion, but me and my family just don't see the value towards ford pickups of any kind anymore. From our experience with the Tundra, it gave us more of what we wanted out of a truck. The ford has faults, and so does the Toyota. Those basic (or complex) fault are what makes trucks as diverse as the people who drive them.
As from a Toyota guy. I got 2 tundra and both trucks hadn't been in the shop. First tundra I own for over 10yrs 200,000 miles. Never seen a shop. My 2014 I own for 9yrs now with 100,000 hasn't seen a shop either. And I live in mass with some crazy weathers. To all the f150 owners, how many times your truck seen the shop.
I am looking to purchase a new truck this coming June or July. I have narrowed it down to these two. Now mind you I don't need to tow/hull heavy things. I will mostly use the bed for my speakers/other dj things. I also live in the Northeast and snow/ice is a problem for parts of the year, so another reason I'm getting a truck is the 4X4 capabilities. I'm looking at buying (not leasing). Considering all of that, which truck should I get? My budget is 40k max!
+F-150 KING OF TRUCKS .. Not surprising. Owners of trucks built by the big three clearly feel threatened by the Tundra, so search for every opportunity to criticize and similar. Quite obviously they wouldn't feel a need to do that if their trucks were truly that great and the Tundra truly that bad.
@light house You can see my truck in my picture. Stock height and stock wheels because I haul and tow, a lot. And I got the FX4 specifically because I spend most of my time in dirt and mud. The front skid plate alone has saved me several times.
With high costs of pickups nowadays, I prioritize reliability first. My Tundra has 230,000 miles. Only maintenance items done, water pump, timing belt, and swaybar end links. My friends Raptor has been at the dealership 4 times. Each time time its in, the average time they hold the truck is 3 weeks. He's only owned the Raptor for 2.5 years and drives 4 miles to work each way.
It’s a very valid point the Toyota propaganda guy said when mentioning when you go up to the 3.5 the tow rating goes up 4000 lbs. But with the same suspension frame and brakes as the base truck. Doesn’t really seem right when it’s more about safety than power when these tow ratings are set. Still trying to figure out why one apple gets a v8 and the other gets a 2.7 eco boost. When the v8 f150 is a lower cost option than the 2.7. Maybe it wasn’t back in 2016.
F150!!!!!...... There is no apples to apples. if you want a truck .......Buy a FORD. You have so many options you can choose from in a F150. Lariat, King Ranch, Limited, FX, Platinum and if you want something basic XLT model. The ecoboost 3.5 twin turbo v6 is a great option and the 5.0 v8... The luxury of the f150 is a great buy...the price of the trucks are pretty pricey but hey if you want ride like a boss you have to pay the cost. BOTTOM LINE......BUY A FORD F150
Ghostrecon66 Level of care, quality and reliability? So lower fuel economy, lower crash test ratings are good today? Tundras constantly score last in every truck comparison for a reason. They are shit.
I respect your opinion on the tundra, but I found that the Tundra consistently performed better for us. The rest either had some technical issue or couldn't pull the stuff we need to move around. In my opinion I would chose the Toyota Tundra over the rest.
Ghostrecon66 You're like my dad. I got so much shit from him when I got my truck because it wasn't a Toyota. They make great vehicles and everyone has different priorities. I bet half the people that buy trucks won't use the full towing capacity or payload capacity anyways, so people buy what they like. I'm glad you like your tundra. Enjoy it.
Here are the facts. Ford's golden child eco boost has a fatal flaw and they know it. It's called hydrolock. Google it. When you ask a 4 cyl or v6 engine to move a full size pick-up and tow like one for long periods, turbo assisted or not, it breaks. Water stored in the intercooler is released on hard acceleration and some of it goes into the intake since that little v6 needs the boost at 2k rpm for torque vs 3 or 4k rpm when that same motor is in the Taurus. The ECU tries to make up for the lost torque, prematurely misfires, warps the rod, and on the next time up, wham! Through the block. From eco boost to eco bust in 2 seconds. It's just science. But good on ford for trying. Want an f-150 with a naturally aspirated motor to give you better numbers than the 5.7? Get the 5.0 or 6.2. Just be prepped to pay $50-60k. Want a better gear ratio for towing than tundra? Sorry, you're SOL. 3.73 is as big as it gets in 1/2 ton fords. But you can get a 4.10 in the f-250! ;)
Daniel Bell Ya, it is. That's a service bulletin from Ford. Not every truck has it, but some will experience it. Take it up with Ford if you don't like it. And ya, there's enough condensation on an intercooler moron. Turbo engine internal temps can reach 400 degrees. Notice I said internal temps not water temp before you come at me with that. So ya, once an engine is at running temp and water hits on an intercooler that hot, it turns to vapor. Where it is sucked up by the intake, meets cool air, and eventually condenses enough to go into the intake manifold=hydrolock. Boom. Knowledge bomb. You're welcome.
B. Tuttle Guess what knowledge bomber, I just looked up all the TSBs for the F150 EcoBoost since it's introduction and other than the TSB for condensation from 2013, nothing. Absolutely nothing about them hydrolocking. Guess your bomb was a dud.
Both good trucks for an average Joe or Jane looking to occasionally run to the box store, pull a wave runner or a yard of mulch in spring. Long term ownership (over 5 yrs) any bets which one needing the costly repairs will be the - - - -
My dad is both a Toyota and Ford guy. He has a few here in the U.S. In Mexico he keeps one of his Ford F-150, in Guatemala he keeps His 4x4 Toyota pickup. I truly wonder which he would take here?? I personally would take the Tundra as a Yota guy. And reliability of the motor is in check. That's just me though, both are great trucks.
The Tundra has not trailer break which the Ford offers so when you tow a heavy load you dont just use your trucks breaks but the trailer breaks also which helps alot. Love both the trucks great pickups but Ford had been around on making trucks way longer its no suprise that F150 is the number one selling truck in North America. They should of compared it to the 5.0 F150 and not the smallest engine 2.7 ecoboost.
This guy says that it matters more to have higher torque in 3rd-4th gear, when in reality the faster your wheel is spinning the lower the torque is anyways. Torque is most important for getting your movement started, especially when towing or if you're stuck in mud or snow. Which is why the most important torque point of comparison was at first gear, where the f150 smoked the tundra by 500 lb-ft
At the time, Ford didn't offer a V8 engine and Toyota didn't offer a V6. This video went with the most popular engine options for each vehicle. Now both companies, thanks to government regulations, have switched solely to V6 engines. I suspect Toyota's reliability has taken a hit as a result.
Wow -- some really good debates here. I never really considered a Toyota before now. I am in the early stages of truck reviews. Got to says the Ford owners seem to have a lot more passion about their rides! ;>) So far I was looking mostly at the F150 2.7 EB as I only tow a handful of times a year when I go camping so the rest of the time I want value as well in the $$ I put into the tank. Even with the gas low now it will go up, it always does, so it matters based on my paycheck. With camper about 5100lb fully geared up, the 2.7 will do the trick just fine. Yes, I know I don't need a fullsize PU for this load -- it is more of a want then a need -- peace of mind thing and more cargo space needed as well as my current Pathfinder is lacking. How did F150 become the # one truck -- better advertisement? A little probably LOL but I think they also put more thought as well and changes as per the customer complaints and concerns -- MPG is one of the biggest today, I know it is one of mine when looking at a fullsize PU. As to holding their value -- well there a so many F150 out there, thus the competition is higher when it comes to resale - so the value drops -- at least that is my understanding. The Tundra is a nice looking truck -- I give it more points for that, but just a few. For now my money is leaning towards the F150 2.7l ,, then Silverado, but I will crunch the numbers and look at this reasonably. I will need to go out and do a test drive of the Tundra, have never even sat in one before. Currently Toyota prices are higher here in Ontario even with cheaper finance rates - so that is another point for Ford and my wallet - but I have been won over once before on just looks and feels before and I have been married to her for 20yrs :) Best wishes to all Cheers, Patrick.
Give credit where it is due buy what you want. If your a Ford fanboy then get a Ford, pretty easy. I have been shopping for a fullsize truck and I can get a loaded SR5 for $38k the way I want it, the Ford is more like $45k. Also the resale value on the Tundra a great while the Ford not so good, my choice is Tundra but to each there own.
"Tundra not designed for these image consumers". Shoot, I'm in that 17% and that's the only reason I bought my Tundra! Good thing I didn't tell the salesman that or they might not have sold it to me, haha.
+ChargersFanSD because the guy said it's not designed for "image conscience consumers" whereas I bought mine for image, haha. And for other reasons too. Best truck I ever owned.
I'm a proud Tundra owner and I have to agree to an extent. Sure it works for most people in a low traction situation, but in an actual off-road scenario.... its not exactly optimal. With that being said, it WILL work perfectly fine for the average truck owner.
It's not as good as a mechanical LSD for driving on icy roads perhaps, but for off road a LSD is useless, only mechanical lockers are better than A-Trac which works excellent.
I might have spent $1,500 in maintenance in 10 years.
A set of tires, a serpentine accessory drive belt, a battery, 2 cabin filters, oil changes, tire rotations, and the rubber trim that goes under the windows at the top of the doors and around the base of the radio antenna.
This is the best vehicle I have ever owned.
I may have this truck till I die, but if I ever get another truck it will be another Tundra.
I am so sold on Toyota that when we needed another car we bought an Avalon.
Toyota for life!
Ford F-150 new $44000
After 3-5yrs it's worth 18-20
Tundra new $38000
After 3-5yrs it's worth 25-30k
Hmmmm
Wildman sir are you just salty? He’s just stating FACTS. And calling someone retarded out of the random shows how immature you are😂😂😂
Wildman I will buy a tundra 😂 are you mad ??
bought a new f150 at the beginning of 2012 and it was a 2011 model xlt crew 4wd 5.0 v8. It had 108,000 miles on it when i traded it in 2017 and got $15k for it and it was wrecked 8 times. If that doesn't speak volume i don't know what does.
jose perez this math is off, my 2004 f150 15 years old will still sell for 8-9 k originally a 38k truck that’s only 2k loss a year
Wildman .. Written by a man sitting in front of an asian-built computer. Perhaps you hate the USA? Anyway, you're full of crap. Very little you've written about the Tundra is true. Those sales numbers are increasing and fuel economy is not the primary concern with a serious truck. The rest is sheer nonsense, but I guess nonsense is all you have to fall back on. USA, Tundra, USA, Tundra, USA, Tundra! LOL.
Was this a comparison or a Toyota commercial?
When you try compare them the tundra sells itself
Tundra's proven powertrain.....I value reliability and resale value
lol you Tundra fangirls crack me up.. Tundra's have quality problems just like any other brand
this was just an advertisement for Toyota. Should have had a Ford person there as well, if you really wanted it to be "apple to apples".
Nick Wilson Right? Where's the Ford rep? I wanted to see a fight!!! Just kidding, but seriously, only having the Toyota rep there? That's a joke.
***** Amen!!
2015 Tundra sales- 118,880
2015 F-150 sales-899,191
GaynNovi ok genius got a Ford lot and tell me how many f150s are on their lot they build so many of those things then can't sell them so they sit there until they offer a steep discount then they sell a year and a half after it was built
jldude84 yep just sold a new 2015 f150 at midtown motors 13000 thousand dollars of of msrp because they couldn't sell it when they got it on the lot for the $52000 that was on the sticker
hard to take this seriously when Toyota is narrating it.
My #1 priority is reliability and longevity. That’s why I have a tundra
""Tundra is strong enough to tow space shuttle. Tundra went 1 million miles on one single engine without being rebuild. Tundra seat fabric didn't even worn-out after 1 million miles. Tundra frame lasted 1 million miles. Tundra cab corners lasted one million miles. Tundra exhaust manifold bolts lasted 1 million miles. Tundra engine lasted 1 million miles without blowing spark plugs. Tundra is the only million miles gas truck without problems. To many people focus on looks and forget that looks are deceiving. To many people call reliability is outdated, and favor issues as advanced technology. I know truth hurts, but it's reality.""
your hella dumb if you believe that a Tundra can tow a 200,000 lb space shuttle
shan chauhan , go and watch videos on tundra. Please educated yourself, Ford is not the only truck on the road.
that not what I said did I? and i know that there are other truck companies
Exhaust manifolds didnt last 1 million miles they were changed at 300,000 miles lol watch the video again
repairvehicle the million mile tundra had new spark plugs put in idiot
I have owned Dodge, Chevy, Ford and Toyota trucks, and would only buy the Toyota again.
+Uke Den BULL SHIT BRO I OWN 2016 TUNDRA LIMITED AND ITS MY MISTAKE DID U TEST DRIVE NEW F150 ?? TRY AND ULL SEE HOW TOYOTA DRIVES LIKE GARBAGE TRUCK
MIKE LINCOLN LINCOLN you just lied I’ve seen plenty new ford and Chevy rams on the side of the road
Uke Den lmao I thought u said I would never buy a Toyota but read it wrong 😂😂
i really wanted to buy an f150, and before i bought my tundra i was headed to the ford dealer, and for some reason i took a tundra out and changed my mind. i think the only thing i really liked better about the ford was the mpg. I don't tow, and don't use the bed... but the increased resale will cover that little difference in fuel. the most expensive part of owning a truck is not the fuel... its the depreciation.
I really like the explanation of the transfer case. I think it shows how Toyota has achieved its reputation while still using a supplier. I drive a Sierra and love it but Tundra was right there at the top of my list. GMC offered more rebate were Tundra did not. I wonder now after listening to this if its because Toyota actually pays more for the quality control of their trucks.
I have to say that this video is much better than other dealership videos. However, literally everything they made a point about can be argued against in the F-150s favor. I mean really, the 2.7 is nowhere near the volume leader. They won't put it up against the 3.5 because they know they don't have anything to even touch it with. Face it, the redesigned Tundra isn't anything better than the old one. Same outdated powertrain, same weak frame, same same same...
Daniel Bell they brought a Toyota rep, what do you expect.
NoOneImportant556 Yeah I wonder why there wasn't a ford rep?? To compare Apples to Apples...lol
Daniel Bell The 2015 5.0L V8 packs 385 horsepower and 387lb-ft of torque. seems like you would put that against the Toyota grocery getter's v8....
hitman21315 Probably because Toyota paid for air time. To put out this commercial to their channels truck fan base. Advertising 101.
Christian Richter 401 lb ft of torque is the important part... you need torque in a truck not just horsepower.. the tundra delivers on that segment. Not to mention the fact that that 5.7 will last ages, especially when compared to any ford engine. I'd prefer a truck that won't let me down when I'm depending on it.
I had a 2015 Tundra that I replaced a 2014 F150 3.5 Ecoboost with. I was towing a 34 foot travel trailer with the F150. The F150 had a higher "rating" for towing. The F150 would be scary to tow this camper with because of the way it would sway. It had the anti sway that would take over but it was still pretty scary knowing that I had lost control for a few seconds.
When I hooked up the same camper to the Tundra there was a DRAMATIC difference. There was no sway at all. I felt like I had complete control of the camper all the time. It makes me wonder how they came up with their towing capacities since the Ford was rated higher than the Tundra but the Tundra was obviously better in real world application. This let me know how underrated the Tundra really is.
All Ford products are cheap garbage. Ford exaggerates and out right lies about their vehicle capabilities!
Tundra all the way .................
Wildman if I’m spending my hard earned money, I’m buying something that lasts, and holds its value. You don’t get any brownie points for being overly patriotic and loyal to a company that doesn’t give two shits about you. 🤣dumbshit. The Toyota always pisses on the fords grave.
You're dreaming dude - Ford all the way!
@Wildman only an uneducated moron still brings up Toyota rust...
Naturally aspirated V8, proven powertrain(11 years old now), solid reliable build quality(Toyota standard), yeah, I would take the Tundra any day.
I've owned 3 ford trucks in my time I'm going with Toyota due to the lack of long term reliability ford has lost a customer!
Hows it going with the Toyota? Thinking if buying a 2015 Tundra.
Hows it going with the Toyota? I'm also thinking about buying a Tundra
This is not a "fair" comparison... you keep saying apples to apples, and it is obviously not. You say the tundra is representative of the volume truck. But you forget to mention that the volume truck is a (4.6L) sr5. The truck that you chose for the comparison is a TRD with a 5.7! Then you price the MSRP of the volume tundra, not the TRD you represent... this eliminates the price advantage that you mention. F150 on paper has the tundra beat in every aspect that you mention. Gas mileage, towing, weight, price, engineering, and technology... Facts are twisted in ways to be biased towards Tundra. Let's be honest, any relatively educated consumer with a little bit of research could see right through this poorly made video.
Toyota makes a 4.6 buy they are unicorns. The 5.7 is what you see 99% of the time.
I will think about hard about your comments the next time I drive my Lexus to pick my wife up at the Ford dealership because her Expedition is broken down again. The Expedition is a beautiful SUV and we were in love with it when we bought it. Unfortunately, it’s a straight up POS. Never trust Ford! I had a Tundra for 10 years and the only problem I had was when some dumbass kid that was texting and driving totaled it for me.
@light house
I forgot but one year I saw a "coffee can" in there. I laughed. Looked like a Folgers can.
I just came off vacation. On the trip, I got 17.3 mpg going up due to carrying 1500 lbs of weight. Coming back i got 20 mpg for got rid of a few lbs. I would but another tundra no matter what. I have gotten 23.4 on a vacation and no problems at all. Mine is a 2014 Tundra Platinum 2 wheel drive. Love it.
Keep your Tundra. F150 hasn't been the number one vehicle in 38 years for no reason. It's the benchmark all trucks are judged by.
+jldude84 Buy used or save another $15,000
+James Wisrik Sorry you're such an ignorant f**k. Should I run over your Tundra now or wait for you to get one first?
+James Wisrik I drive a '15 F150. Hicks don't live in Southern California.
+James Wisrik Is that all you have??? Look who the girly man is now. Owned!
+scterka You're missing a huge point. Ford fleet sales are responsible for that claim, not civilian sales.
I work for a pipeline inspection company and deal with all the big oil and chemical companies and I have seen the sales quotes from Ford, Chevrolet and Dodge and Toyota. Ford is basically GIVING their trucks away to these companies. It doesn't take a genius to see how Ford maintains their "record".
why didnt they compare the tundras 5.7 to fords updated 5.0 ?
Because this is a comparison of their most sold versions he said. Nobody buys the 5.0 liter
@@mistergixxerk3 bullshit
@@user-maxim_79 im a Toyota guy ,but that 5.0 is one if not the best motor ever built, im in a farming community an the farmers won't buy new fords anymore because they are stopping v8 builds . Im starting to see more driving tundras. That says alot because farmers love there fords an Chevys.
Because Ford had already announced the 5.0 was being discontinued. As you know, it's gone today.
@@baine5.7 no comparison to the bullet proof 5.7 3URFE! One of the best built v8 engines! 500k mile engine! In fact there are million mile ones documented! Far superior to the 5.0
Tundra all the way lol Ford is good if you plan on buying a new truck after 100,000 miles
Kajun
Agreed 100%
Kajun As long as you dont have a rusty frame. I have seen some nice, well taken care of truck in the shop for frame replacement on the tundras.
Kajun no proper frame in the Tundra means it is junk as the frame is the back bone of any truck it will not last
Tundra sucks they break so much that's why they give you Toyota care for all the repairs the piece of shit truck will be needing just from a 20 mile trip home
Kajun Really? Is that why 2005 Ford has 205k miles on it and no major repairs? Routine maintenance like fluid changes, filters, brakes, and tune ups are all I've done on it. No rust, either.
I currently own a 2011 Tundra 4x4 5.7 quad cab 4.30 rear and a 2015 F150 4x4 3.5 turbo crew cab 3.73 rear. Both trucks are good. Both have pulled my 28ft travel trailer with family in cab and items in bed. The Tundra did great but only gets 13 mpg normal driving and 8 towing. My F150 gets 20 normal driving and 11 towing. The F150 pulls up to speed better and maintains speed better. I really like Tundras, drove a 2015 before getting F150. Looks great great inside and out just power train feeling dated. I've owned a Ram, Chevy and a Titan before getting these. F150 with aluminum body is tuffer body and 3.5 turbo has torque for days coming on at 2300 rpm. My two cents.
Traves Hartman i wish you took the 5.0 V8 FX4 with 4.30 axle instead of the V6 EB .
mohammadkwt I drove one and didn't like it. Plus my tundra can pull 10,500 pounds and the F150 I bought can pull 10,700 pounds. The v8 pulled less. I am a big fan of a good V8 but I have to say this newer version of the 3.5 ec is pretty impressive. I'd like to see a small turbo v8 option. I grew up modding trucks and am a fan of super chargers and turbos. I think the technology could be a good thing for the market. Besides if it works out to be a lame truck I'll just go to something else.
Traves Hartman
you can tow 11,000 lbs with the 5.0 towing package ( added upgrades ) as the V8 turbo ford will make it for the raptor in 2018 5.0 V8 ecoboost .
Your right, you can get 11,700 with the 3.5 ecoboost 4x4 crew with the heavy duty payload package. But it only comes on the lariat or king ranch. 12,200 with 3.5 ecoboost 2x4 regular cab regular box. Either way pretty impressive for a 1/2 ton.
Traves Hartman
my point was about the 5.0 tow package upgrade that will let you tow 11,700 lbs just do build & price in ford website .
I love how they keep saying "apples to apples" but they're comparing a 5.7L to a 2.7L. Both trucks are awesome and I'd be happy as hell to own either, but the 3.5L has blown my mind with it's power and durability. While retaining value is nice if you're buying new, if you're intelligent enough to buy something in excellent shape that's just a few years old this is actually a huge advantage for the Ford. The engine, and the rest of the truck, has proven over the years that it holds up like new for hundreds of thousands of miles. Personally I'd be much happier buying a used F150 with a 3.5L for half the price of a new 5.7L Tundra. It just makes sense. Especially if you do your own maintenance and repairs and know what to look for as many truck owners do.
Went from F-150 to Tundra and wish I had just gotten the Tundra in the first place.
GMC, Chevy, RAM, and Ford trucks aren't worth the headache. You'll spend more time taking it to the shop than enjoying it.
I have the 2016 tundra TRD Pro. Great truck. A real goat when it comes to off road driving. Love Ford but amazed at the cab room and performance of the tundra. Only draw back is fuel efficiency
What they aren't telling you about the pricing comparisons here is that Toyota dealers do not negotiate. The price is the price. So the $44,000 F-150 really is a $35,000 truck after rebates. I priced out a Tundra 1794 edition when I ordered my 2015 F-150 Lariat and it came out to $55,700 CAD after taxes, for a loaded 1794 edition truck. The Lariat ended up being about $800 less after taxes (and the lease payment is $300 per month cheaper on comparable 24 month leases for the F-150). The F-150 has adaptive cruise, lane keeping assist, 360 camera, a panoramic sunroof, active park assist, LED lights all around, more torque, better fuel economy, better towing....the list goes on. What does the loaded 1794 Tundra have? None of that. So why should I buy a Tundra?
It has rock solid reliability, something the Ford you just bought doesn't have, as you will slowly find out during your ownership of the truck. Report back at 100,000 miles all the problems you've had with your twin turbo ecoboost F150.....'nuff said
Where's your proof that it has rock solid reliability? Just because it wears a Toyota badge doesn't necessarily mean the world. I work at a dealership (not Ford) and I've had plenty of Tundras traded in that the owners say they had their share of issues with. Plus, I always lease my trucks when interest rates are low regardless of the brand so I will never know, nor will I care what happens to my truck in 100k miles. So for the 3 years and 60,000 miles I own my trucks I'm not going to compromise features, driving dynamics, fuel economy, styling, comfort, value for money and overall ownership experience just because some guy told me it's more reliable based on the theory that a Toyota badge carries unsurpassed merit. It doesn't.
It's a free country, drive what you like. But, your post says it all:
You aren't really concerned with reliability because you don't keep your truck long enough to find out what it's TRUE reliability is (you said yourself 3 years/100k miles - ANY new car/truck can go that long with no major issues and be relatively problem-free). Go to 200k, 300k or more and then let's talk (and I speak from experience - my Titan has 268k and counting, NO major engine/transmission issues and dead-nuts reliable).
You work at a dealership as ???? What, a tech? A service advisor? Sales? Notice that I drive a NISSAN, not a TOYOTA, yet I'm defending TOYOTA. And I'd but another Titan over an F150 any day of the week because I know it will be dependable. How do I know? Let's see - personal experience as an ASE-certified Master Auto & M/H Truck Technician for 20 years and having worked on PLENTY of F-series in those 20 years.
Do you use your truck as a truck? Or just a grocery-getter/daily driver? Take it off-road at all? I'm guessing no to all, since you only keep 'em 3 years on a lease, so you can't really be too rough on them. EVERYONE knows Toyota's have excellent off-road capabilities (granted, the Tacoma, not necessarily the Tundra, but that's due more to size).
Do some research and you'll find that the Tundra is consistently ranked higher in reliability (JD Power, Consumer Reports, US News, Edmunds, KBB, take your pick) than the F150. I'm not making that up, Google is your friend - do your own research if you think I'm full of crap.
Now, every manufacturer will have issues with their vehicles, especially with new models and new technology. The current (2015) F150 falls into that category - new model, (relatively) new technology (ecoboost). There is NO WAY a twin-turbo engine will be more reliable over the long haul than a NA engine. Neither will GDI. You won't feel that, because you won't have it long enough to find out (most likely).
I don't lease vehicles. I buy new and keep them a very long time. That's how you get value out of something. In order to do that you need to buy something that will last and be cost-efficient. That's where my original statement came from. Have a nice day.
@@mx3727 agree F150 is great truck for short term, Toyota is for long term..and I like to make my money worth in the long run.
They really need to compare it to Fords 5.0 V8, I think the tundra would still win, but it would be closer. I mean the 2.7 vs 5.7, this is not an apples to apples comparison. I understand that they are going by sales numbers, but it helps that the Tundra only has 2 engine options, the F150 has 4. Funny though how they didn't mention iihs safety ratings. Ford gets an iihs top safety pick. Tundra is poor, or marginal in almost every catagory. Both great trucks, though.
Looks to me like the tundra is just a better truck period.
This is a Toyota ad remember. There's not even a Ford rep there, lol. In 2017 at least, the Ford beat's the Toyota in every category, maybe except reliability, but Ford isn't the cheap 90's company you remember. They've changed for the better.
But I shouldn't be surprised by your comment, considering you have a Tundra profile pic.
I want to see, "We tested two trucks (or 4) with 100,000 miles and here's the results." All trucks are nice when they're new.
My boss man and his son both drive F150 (boss drives king ranch)
both around 50k miles and been to dealer more than my 06 toyota.
120k miles and counting!
only had to replace radiator, oil pan/ valve cover gasket, which is
pretty short service list for 12 years old.
2000 Tundra owner,300,000 miles and still runs like new,only problem had was the starter,rebuild it at 169,000.
My 2016 Tundra came with factory running boards, mud flaps, chip guard on the lower side panels and sprayed in bedliner. Thses extras are worth about $3000, F-150 and Ram 1500 didn't come with them. I test drove 2016 F-150, Ram 1500 and Tundra. Tundra was the clear winner to me in ride comfort, stability, turning, stopping and looks. The roll down rear window on the Tundra was an added benefit I wasn't aware of before test driving it. The next few years will determine whether Toyota's reliability, durability and maintenance costs keep me as a customer.
Tundra will out last the Ford F-150. In my personal experience on every Toyota cars, SUV, Mini Van and Truck. They last for a long time. I now own 2004 Tundra bought it in 2008 ( own it for10 years now). This truck is running as good as the first day I bought it. The only thing I did to is change oil every three months and buy new tires. Great truck!
And that's why I LOVE my tundra!! #2015 #TUNDRA #4×4 ;)
Pretty decent review. When it comes to half-tons all are pretty much on par. Value probably should be the deciding factor in making a selection. I was pretty impressed with the 2015 Tundra I looked at.
"the tundra is better than the f-150. no reason why, it just is." "we're gonna try and make this test as fair as possible"
Had a series of Toyota trucks and I work in timber - they are most reliable and because they are tough a used truck is the best deal given the immediate depreciation of a new rig. My current Tundra TRD has 200K and the radiator is all I've done. Probably should do timing belt soon. I drove dodges, fords and chevys in the USFS and the dodges were the best there. Gov could not buy foreign built trucks.
Take the tundra any day
Wildman and After you answer these comments, I️ won’t. 🤣 this is a one sided talk we are having. Later shit stain
2010 tundra only gets 13 miles per gallon...BUT when I towed 6000 lbs over Chinook Pass in Washington state.... it still got 13 miles per gallon. No brag, just fact. 2010 4 door, 55k miles, 5.7, with factory TRD exhaust. Super smooth ride towing the trailer. I might add some air bags in the back , cuz the trailer put 560 pounds of weight on the tow hitch.
I'm thinking about getting a Tundra, it looks handsome.
ChargersFanSD did u get a tundra ?
Not to mention that tundra can be factory supercharged without voiding your warranty and thats the another reason tundra has all the heavy duty parts so owner can customize it
Jitenderpal Dhillon if you notved they don’t make that kit anyone and they don’t saw why.... it’s cuz it compromised the reliability since the engine couldn’t handle it. And that was the only way you got that shit engine to make any power.
I own my trucks until they cost me more then they are worth. I've had a lot of Fords and GM's and I've had a lot of problems which is an understatement. I switched to Toyota Trucks and am currently enjoying the lack of problems. I own my Toyotas now and all I pay for is gasoline and general maintenance which leaves me with lots of cash in my pocket for other things. According to KBB and NADA my 2002 only lost 3k of value in the last 6 years of ownership.
The guys who troll on here and try to defend their Ford just like owning a new Truck, making payments, or love fixing them. I've sure a 2015 F150 is nice, but I will bet that my 2002 Toyota will outlast it. 275,000 problems free miles vs my uncles 280,000 replaced every part twice F250. It is not shocking to me that a Ford on average can cost 11k more then a Toyota over 5 years of ownership. So basically what i'm saying is don't hate me because I have a bigger house, bigger boat, faster motorcycle all because I drive a Toyota.
I'm with you on the reliability of the Tundra. I have a 2000 Tundra that has over 360,000 miles. I just replaced a head gasket and a new starter, it still runs like a champ. I just bought a new 2017 Tundra love the new ride.
This is a REALLY good video. Thanks.
Please keep the comments civil. Thanks.
+Sierra Toyota Scion You do realize this is the internet, right? Asking people to be civil is like asking a toddler to explain Quantum Mechanics, but in binary.
+Daniel Bell yea i ended up getting an explorer. big enough to carry my equipment, looks nicer, and better pricing when leasing.
should i get a tundra even if i dont tow a lot but i will in the future
Please say the video is a advertisement for Toyota, thanks.
Sierra Toyota nah FUCK YALL
What I get from this video is that the Tundra, despite being $6-8K cheaper, is only marginally inferior to the F150. This is a valid point, but it is being disguised as a "better value" argument, which is for the customer to decide. Truck buyers come from different backgrounds, have different economic situations, and have different uses for their trucks. Ultimately, comparing the "value" of two trucks is like comparing their looks and styling; it's heavily subjective, and will likely yield differing, inconsistent results.
Also, the 2.7 appears to be an option optimized for the customer that uses his or her truck primarily as a commuter vehicle (perhaps for a small family) that is still capable of moderate towing and hauling, but emphasizes fuel economy. The Tundra's 5.7 is a tried and true workhorse. Therefore, the closest thing to an "apples to apples" comparison of the two trucks' capability would be comparing it to Ford's 5.0 or 3.5 EcoBoost.
The f-150 gets 26 miles per gallon the tundra gets 18 yeah they're comparable. I think I'll make up that couple grand difference in less than a year.
Chad Staelens yea with 4x2 and regular cab, check Fuelly.com where owners post mpgs numbers, the ecoboost gets nowhere near 26 mpgs buddy
I have an eco boost2.7, and I average 23 miles per gallon highway I get 26-26.5. My buddy has a 2014 tundra with the 5.7 and she is lighter on the gas then I am and averages 15.2 miles per gallon. 8 mpg differences
Big fan of Toyota trucks personally, I own a 2012 Tacoma and just love my truck, they are indeed reliable. Ford on the other hand, have indeed made major technological advancements in their design of engines, and body/frames, no one can refute that. I am impressed with Fords numbers of MPG/Tow/Torque etc, they are very competitive with today's market requirements from consumers. In contrast the Tundra is a reliable truck, anyone that says otherwise is a fool in denial, but I believe Toyota has some room to advance in their engine design potential. Although impressive, the fuel efficiency must be better nowadays to remain competitive in the American truck market. The new 2016 Tacoma announced earlier this year will hopefully start a renewed focus on their trucks, we'll finally see what Toyota has in store for their well selling midsize truck in the Tacoma. The Tundra should be their next update...assuming their engineers can take some focus away from that damn best selling Camry and Corolla a bit.
Funny thing is, the ford looks old to me already. Same as when the 09 came out... 6 months later, looks old. Guess it really caters to the senior crowd more than the younger group.
Senior crowd? Best selling truck in America, and in Canada. Not everyone is a senior. I'm 28 and I have one. Not to mention many other people who are young drive ford. Great logic
You are correct. I should take that back... but I do find the Ford design conservative. Look at the Atlas vs the 2015 F150... they KINDDA went half way to the Atlas. I had two fords prior to this Tundra. This time (like the previous fords) was based on price, and features. I really don't need a truck, I need a vehicle that gives lots of room for ppl and cargo, and some hauling from time to time of light loads. Both my previous fords were great trucks until 80,000kms-100k kms (60k mi). Pair of bad manifolds, two rear ends within 20k of each other on the 08... Just little things. Where Tundra is falling short for me in comparison to the F150 is in MPG. I'm losing 2-4L/100KM in my tundra compared to the Ford, but I got it cheaper, and liked the interior better, and was just ready to try something different. Being unsure how long I am keeping this one, I thought the Tundra was a more solid choice if i choose to keep it after the 5 year mark. And yes the Aluminium did scare me a bit, because ford has a history with me of not looking after everything they should on warranty,.
+kyle0986 And maybe when I say the Fords start to look older to me is because the Ford is so well selling, they start to look more common than a Tundra. Heck, Nissan held on to the TItan style for 13 years, and you know what... it looks a heck of a lot more modern styled than an 03 F150 would today!
LOl its the "best selling" truck because it breaks down fast so the owners buy more hence the best selling truck.
@@HumblePainter more funny are the people who have continuous bad luck with fords (and other brands) and are so brand loyal they just keep buying them again and again. Chevy guys are more likely to reoffend but ford guys are bad too
Toyota Tundra number1
The Tundra is just a decade behind the F150 and the GM twins. The Tundra looks, interior, etc. isn't there, the interior is looks cheap, the infotainment still way behind technology, I wish Toyota take it seriously to compete in the segment.
my 2007 tundra 5.7 just got to 278600 miles still running strong dont hate
touna911 Those are baby miles, go put double that on it and work it it's whole life, it won't go the distance.
You consider that brag worthy? You can put those miles on an f150 and Silverado and that's considered just breaking them in. Let me know when you put 1,000,000+ miles on your Toyota and its still going.
I'm not saying the Tundra is a bad truck, I'm saying that the pick up truck segment is very competitive and Toyota could try harder to offer a more competitive product. Toyota has a great opportunity to improve the next generation Trundra and make it as competitive as the Ford and GM.
Jose M Brito yeah i know what your tryin to say and i 100℅ agree im not sayin that the tundra is the best too but im impress by the low maintenance i did due to mileage and its currently the highest i got of all my vehicule never had a f150 my stepfather have one he likes it i do too but he said his truck is not as reliable as.mine
I have a 2016 Tundra crewmax 4x4. Great truck reliable no problems. Plenty of power gas mileage sucks. The only part of the video that I have an issue with is the brakes. I replaced my brakes at 40k miles!! They were worn out already and I rarely tow anything. Also it is outdated but I don’t need all the fancy gadgets. But it’s been a reliable work horse. I notice on long road trips the seats start hurting my back. Could be more comfy just saying
Ford owners be honest..how many times does the ford have to go to the dealership for issues that should have been fixed when they made the truck..lol. Yes Ford looks better and is popular but Ford has those stupid broken spark plug issues.
MR MECHANIC Ford cares about sales more than it does longevity and reliability, they need to keep their stock prices stable.
Broken spark plug issues were over 10 years ago. Current much?🤦♂️
Unfortunately you are very fanatical and hide the advantages and capabilities of the excellent Ford F150 which made it the best-selling truck in the USA for a long time and put a Toyota Tundra without specifications and is unable to pull and load weights like the Ford F150 and also does not have a davernslock 😂😂😂😂😭😭 is this called a truck 😂😂😂😂
toyota has great quality hands down.
+Bolds Yea Great quality or they use the same boring powertrains for 10 years? Once they fix the issues after 5 years they have 5 more years of reliability, but suffer in all other aspects. They put major emphasis on their QDR, but fail to mention they are behind every competitor in innovation. I've had numerous Toyotas. Toyota needs to pay attention and catch up.
+Thamac15 catch up with repairs? No thanks.
beeboodu1 Toyota is always behind the curve, all Japanese car manufacturers have taken a back seat in innovation the last 20 years. Nothing exciting comes from there, they don't push any boundaries. Toyota just sells dated vehicles at over inflated prices while everyone else innovates. After others come out with technology, Toyota will follow suit if it's proven. I can't stand a company that sells it's customers dated/safe vehicles and lives of nothing more than the name they made for themselves 30 years ago.
Thamac15 that same "boring" powertrains is what makes Toyota last forever. ford keeps coming out with new technology but keeps failing. their ecoboost is a POS with reliability problems and their sync is garbage. yeah ford might have good gas mileage but your trading that for reliability. again, I have friends who work for Ford. One at the Oakville plant in Ontario and another at a Ford dealership. the horror stories they hear and see. they said they would never buy a Ford. I think I'll take their opinion over any fan boy
William Stewart and the Name they made 30 years ago... you mean still to this day? pretty sure Lexus and Toyota are ranked #1 and #2 in terms of reliability. lol good try tho
While I like the Tundra the main problem is the huge excess fuel consumption in the cold winter months when I use my 4X4 truck for daily commuting in what is often brutal winter weather....that made the difference for me. The F150 is from the start easily 20% more fuel efficient for commuting (3.5L EB), throw a very cold northern climate into the mix and in Canada where fuel prices are absolutely taxed to ridiculous levels and it made the difference between these two trucks. I do like a solid burly V8, the Tundra while being dated was certainly attractive in that department, sadly Toyota has done nothing about that for a decade, Ford has really been on the ball, win went to Ford in my case and I am really happy with it.
Troy Power I have 2 friends who work for Ford. One at a plant that builds ford's and one that works at a dealership. they both told me they would NEVER buy a Ford. Reliability issues and poor quality control. if you want a truck with good gas mileage. go with a v6
6 years later how did the ford work out??
I had two Tundras, an 08 and a 14. I couldn't wait to get rid of the 14. How do you go backwards by keeping the same old 8 year old powertrain? I'm curious Toyota. Why is the auto LSD such inefficient garbage that is utterly useless? I never used my 08 as anything other than a grocery getter, it was 2wd basic truck. My 14 was a limited 4wd and now I understand what all those Ford/Chevy guys were talking about with the garbage bedbounce and auto LSD useless crap. you can't compare the F150 to a Tundra,...the Tundra compares to a last gen Titan. I traded my 14 tundra for a 15 F150 and couldn't be happier 9k miles later. The truck is a truck and the locking diff is a must have!
Did you end up with a 5.0 or one of the Ecoboosts.? I know you were leaning towards the 5.0. Toyota needs to update this truck soon their sales numbers are already down 13% YTD and they hardly sell enough as it is to keep it around.
The Tundra is a very solid truck. If you are buying something to work hard it is worth a look. The biggest downfalls I see are that it is heavy and it drinks a lot of gas. Fuelly shows the average owner getting 14 mpg overall. Owners of the 2.7 equipped F150 reported an average of 18 mpg and those driving mostly highway miles can see up to 22 mpg. That is not insignificant. Toyota really doesn't have a powertrain that competes with that little 2.7, not to mention Ram's EcoDiesel. One other issue that Toyota really needs to address is the lack of integrated trailer braking. For a truck that is so well targeted at the towing crowd that really is a major oversight and is one they should have already corrected. Why else would anyone feed a Tundra than if they needed something substantial enough to drag a heavy trailer around?
Do your research people. The Tundra is NOT a competitive vehicle. It is consistently rated in last place among full size trucks. The Tundra needed a ground up redesign years ago that never happened. They rely on less informed truck buyers to keep them selling.
I think you're talking about GM. Same old piece push rod motor.
I aint a GM fanboy but the trio of engines offered in the GM trucks are far from old pieces of push rod motors... Direct injection, variable valve timing, cylinder deactivation are standard on all of them!
It's still a pushrod motor. Something that shouldn't exist anymore...
Turbo Turbo You really are clueless aren't you. OHC and OHV are from the 1800's, both are equally old and dated. In the world of trucks you want the simplest, most reliable/proven design. Why should GM switch to OHC? More cost, more parts, more to worry about etc etc. The people that buy trucks to use them in their intended environment want reliability and simplicity, I sure as hell don't want to deal with a DOHC head when things go south after warranty. There's a reason no one in the commercial world uses Japanese trucks, if you're not using it like a car (most truck owners), then look elsewhere as they don't last.
William Stewart last i checked 4 valves per cylinder is better than 3 ESP 2.. spark plugs right in the middle is better than sideways. Only people who doesn't know would buy a pushrod motor. Something that should cost half the price of DOHC, but no they sell if for just as much. And people like you still buy it. The Tacoma "dohc" is more of a truck than its competitors. Canyon and Colorado? Lol. Jokes.
The Tundra essentially remains the same since the 2007 model year. Just restyled with a few updates. The motor has stayed the same as well as other technologies. Come on Toyota, quit resting on your laurels. It's time to step up to the plate. All of the other automakers have really nailed it lately. You have let yourself get behind. I know you can do better.
+scterka why change a bulletproof truck with the best reliability and resale in the business, change it and make it less reliable like the others
+guy proulx why keep it the same when it's clear no one buys them the sales numbers are pathetic and keep going down. Hello get a clue and update the dam thing.
***** how many different engines have Ford gone through since '06, seems they can't get it right and that's why domestics keep re-inventing themselves lol, at least Toyota is the most reliable with the best resale in the business at that's why i buy them, with a reputation that solid why wouldn't i
guy proulx So the Tundra has the same engine since 07 and still sells like shit. Your point? Sales are down 13% YTD say what you want but the Tundra is a turd that no one wants .
***** the reason, Murica, i'm sure you never even test drove a Tundra like all the other sheep that buy domestics without even looking at the Tundra, the Tundra is on par with the F-150 for having the most american made parts, GM and Dodge use parts made in China lol, well actually Dodge is a FIAT now so it shouldn't even be mentioned, with their past to present reliability scores i wouldn't even consider buying that junk, 90% of people who buy "domestics" mostly buy them thinking they are the most "american" or they buy a Ford or a GM because their whole family has been loyal to that brand for decades, it's simple as that, i'm sure if they bouth one Tundra and kept it for 5 years and saw how reliable they are for themselves, chances are they wouldn't buy another domestic unless they needed bigger to tow a humongous fifth wheel or something like that, most you tubers like yourself flap their mouth and bullshit on a truck they've never owned, myself i've owned them all except for that junk Dodge so at least i have experience so i can comment on what is the most reliable and the best bang for the money and in my experience it's been Toyota by far
I just traded my 2013 F15 ecoboost for a tundra, a 2010 with 3 times the mileage. Why? the ecoboost overheated towing 8k lbs. Over & over. Tundra pulls just as well, slower, but just as well. And 1 MPG better all around. The EcoBoost is a gas pig. I sleep at night now knowing my truck won't break down. I've e owned Chev, powerstrokes, expeditions, explorers. All had maint issues....
Chuck Elliott ecoboost piece of crap. I'll choose a naturally aspirated v8 over a turbo 6 any day. turbos will never last as long as a naturally aspirated.
Chuck Elliott I have friends who work for Ford here in ONTARIO and they both told me they would never buy a Ford. Reliability and poor quality control is a big issue
turbos are cool, the truck was fast & powerful, but unreliable.
Wildman; Perhaps your not aware that Tundra is built in Texas?
wildman, it's been widely reported the ecoboost 3.5L has over heating issues, ua-cam.com/video/CPmJDdFwMvo/v-deo.html
This truck is perfect for where I live; the Navajo Rez. USA made. Light steering, truck has smooth throttle getting up hills. Towing through sandrock then into soft sand and back through sandrock rock and after a lesser vehicle tills up the sand. You won't understand if you've never had those types of conditions
oh yeah! your ford will break before you pay it off. my tundra will go over 300k without any engine issue and that's a true story
No, but it'll probably need 2 new frames.
It will definitely rust out before the Ford and that’s guarantee!! The 5.0l with go hundred of thousands of miles
all I can said is Ford f-150can be the most selling truck, but in the end it's loss his trade value, have many issues especially after 5 years, this truck is designed for breaking down, many Ford owners ended out spending money on repairs, instead of saving. I know many are proud just cause is a American truck, I respect that, but here is about save money not wasting in headaches.
aluminium body, twin turbo engine is expencive to fix
+Scott Weird, turbos are becoming more and more a part of all manufacturers designs. Toyota has turbos in some of their lineup as well. the aluminum repairs are not significant enough to raise insurance premiums,...my 15 f150 lariat insurance went down $14 compared to my 14 limited tundra with the same exact coverage. You're assessment is wrong.
+Thamac15 did you bother researching the cost of repairing alumunum ? the reason the insurance went down for you're Ford is because the Tundra has higher resale value therefore costing the insurance company more to replace a Tundra, simple as that
Thamac15 ff
My 2016 F150 cost $3 less per year to insure than my 2007 Tundra (same coverage)
BS
How did they say the 2.7 is the volume leader? I see more 5.0's than 2.7's..
Not even a ford tech would get a ecoboost that says a lot ... He got a dodge now has engine problems with that lol
+juan cacer haha FordTech guy makes me laugh. He didn't want to have any ecoboost issues so he chose an ecodiesel that is suffering from all sorts of major issues i.e. coolant lines disintegrating, fuel pump issues, def issues, egr issues etc etc etc.
that was so cold man but spot on.
Avoid the ecoboost. And F. the start stop technology.
juan cacer i work at a fiat plant and they won't use Ram trucks. The fords are always breaking as well. Wish Toyota or Hyundai would step up and put some competition in the hd segment .
jldude84 Toyota is the "best" at above average reliability.
the ford is a better looking truck imo, but for long term reliability i'd go with the the Tundra all day. i currently own an 07 silverado and love it, but im seriously considering Tundra as my next one
Good luck. You'll need it.
Sorry domestic lovers Toyota and Nissan signed contracts with American company Cummins for a 5.0 diesel next yr :]
C Swaim You getting a heart transplant from a pig doesn't make you a pig. Japanese buying American doesn't make them American.
So where is this Cummins engine? The Nissan only got one but it’s still a shit truck and doesn’t tow for crap.
I like the Tundra, especially the reliability. Just wished Toyota made it more competitive in fuel economy and performance. I'm looking to buy a new truck and it's gonna have to be a Ford. Please Toyota, modernize your damn truck! ...without compromising on reliability.
I will give this Toyota rep props at least he acknowledges that the 2015 f150 has some impressive features to it like the 2.7 ecoboost engine and the all aluminum body. the only thing that's holding their truck division back from really competing in the u.s. truck market is toyota themselves. the higher ups at toyota in japan seem to lack enthusiasm to really go after and truly compete in the u.s. truck market. they have no diesel option for the tundra and no HD trucks in their lineup to speak of to go up against dodge, gm and ford's HD lineup and that's what's really hurting Toyota from seriously competing in the u.s truck market right now.
SteelCity1981 lol, ever seen one of those mini Japanese trucks with the massively over-sized loads on them, rather ridiculous loads they do over there. I agree with you man, but everyone has to start somewhere. I think that sometime in the future Toyota with be on-par with the F-150 and the other American trucks. You have to admit the standard 308 Axle is a good feature to have on the truck though.
Ghostrecon66 thing is if the higher ups at Toyota in japan would put as much effort in their trucks as they do with their cars they would have been on par with the big 3 right now or close to it. they have had over 2 decades to compete in the half ton market in since the t-100 debuted, so it's not like they are new to the half ton game in America.
True, but who knows, Companies have to do what they gotta do. Most likely wasn't their focus at the time. No one (or car/truck is perfect)
then why compete if you aren't going to make a full effort. that's my point with Toyota.
Ghostrecon66 the only thing I will really appreciate if they will do something with fuel economy
Fanboys are hating hard but the truth hurts. Toyota Tundra is the best 1/2 tone on the market. It's overengineered. Will never go back to any other truck.
The Main Event Man The truth is that your over engineered turd cant hack it in the world of trucks. Truth hurts, don't it?
It's the best because why?? Because you have one?? Ford is the number one truck. Period. You have no say. Your Tundras frame couldnt handle half of what a fords could. You got nothing
I will tell you right now my 2015 f-150 smokes ever tundra any day. Like really, go figures toyota is making their truck look better, like give me a break. 2015 F-150 won pickup truck of the year. Last time I checked tundra hasn't won anything in along time. And still C-channel frame? Where's the durability? I don't see it. Yet here's the f-150, all aluminum, 75% stronger steal frame,10X's more towing, best new tech in a truck, has thing's you wouldn't expect on a truck for the next 5 years, and etc, etc amount of more things that tundra just does not have! Like really toyota, your going to keep trying to bash the best selling truck for the last 48 some odd years? Give me a break.. Get a life, your trucks are nothing but cheap Japan junk.. And I hope I get a bunch of fan boy's commenting to tell me I'm an idiot, because it gives me the pleasure to educate some people about the better truck. Also I'm no brand loyal, I like each truck in it's own way (only Ford, Ram, Sierra, and Titan). But I will say I would never buy a tundra. But I will give that their engines are proven but still have many things that could make it a better engine.
Kyle Fitzgerald I respect your opinion, But I like the Tundra better. Its overall performance and value is better.
Have you owned a Tundra before? If you have then nice. If not then okay. You have your reasons. performance wise our tundra is pretty damn good. In our opinion of course.
Ghostrecon66 I just hate video's like this. Got nothing else to say really. Yes I know all company's do it, but usually they don't have them team up on one truck and name the negatives. Because that new f-150 has a hell of a lot more positives then you think, and tons more then the tundra ( no offence).
I respect your opinion, but me and my family just don't see the value towards ford pickups of any kind anymore. From our experience with the Tundra, it gave us more of what we wanted out of a truck. The ford has faults, and so does the Toyota. Those basic (or complex) fault are what makes trucks as diverse as the people who drive them.
Ghostrecon66 What ever you say man. Buy what you want, I'm sure not stopping you..
As from a Toyota guy. I got 2 tundra and both trucks hadn't been in the shop. First tundra I own for over 10yrs 200,000 miles. Never seen a shop. My 2014 I own for 9yrs now with 100,000 hasn't seen a shop either. And I live in mass with some crazy weathers. To all the f150 owners, how many times your truck seen the shop.
Tundras are the best they are so reliable and so handsome looking :)
+KIDx xVIOLATOR I disagree. Best at which aspect of a truck? They're not bad looking, but it isn't their strong suit.
Tundra has the 24 ft-lb advantage over the F150, 24 pounds of weight over a 12” span is just astronomical
I got my 2015 tundra Texas sr5 crewmax for $40000
So Bui but you did not get a real frame only a c rail which is garbage
David Stanley I like how you say it's garbage but basically every semi has one so it must not be
I am looking to purchase a new truck this coming June or July. I have narrowed it down to these two. Now mind you I don't need to tow/hull heavy things. I will mostly use the bed for my speakers/other dj things. I also live in the Northeast and snow/ice is a problem for parts of the year, so another reason I'm getting a truck is the 4X4 capabilities. I'm looking at buying (not leasing). Considering all of that, which truck should I get? My budget is 40k max!
+DJ MORALES201 F150 is made of aluminum, so, no rust issues.
lmfao...more dislikes than likes...very rarely I see that
+F-150 KING OF TRUCKS .. Not surprising. Owners of trucks built by the big three clearly feel threatened by the Tundra, so search for every opportunity to criticize and similar. Quite obviously they wouldn't feel a need to do that if their trucks were truly that great and the Tundra truly that bad.
Where's the threat? Fords and GMs practically fly off the lots, they have to damn near beg people to buy the Tundra.
Light House, I wouldn't call getting groceries "work".
@light house You can see my truck in my picture. Stock height and stock wheels because I haul and tow, a lot. And I got the FX4 specifically because I spend most of my time in dirt and mud. The front skid plate alone has saved me several times.
With high costs of pickups nowadays, I prioritize reliability first. My Tundra has 230,000 miles. Only maintenance items done, water pump, timing belt, and swaybar end links.
My friends Raptor has been at the dealership 4 times. Each time time its in, the average time they hold the truck is 3 weeks. He's only owned the Raptor for 2.5 years and drives 4 miles to work each way.
Only 5 lugs, and a half ass frame. Its still a toy truck.
It’s a very valid point the Toyota propaganda guy said when mentioning when you go up to the 3.5 the tow rating goes up 4000 lbs. But with the same suspension frame and brakes as the base truck. Doesn’t really seem right when it’s more about safety than power when these tow ratings are set. Still trying to figure out why one apple gets a v8 and the other gets a 2.7 eco boost. When the v8 f150 is a lower cost option than the 2.7. Maybe it wasn’t back in 2016.
F150!!!!!...... There is no apples to apples. if you want a truck .......Buy a FORD. You have so many options you can choose from in a F150. Lariat, King Ranch, Limited, FX, Platinum and if you want something basic XLT model. The ecoboost 3.5 twin turbo v6 is a great option and the 5.0 v8... The luxury of the f150 is a great buy...the price of the trucks are pretty pricey but hey if you want ride like a boss you have to pay the cost.
BOTTOM LINE......BUY A FORD F150
eric vasquez Most people want to still be able to pay the bills afterwards you know.
$38,000 isn't exactly cheap however. Toyota does put care and a level of quality and reliability that I just haven't seen in other trucks yet.
Ghostrecon66 Level of care, quality and reliability? So lower fuel economy, lower crash test ratings are good today? Tundras constantly score last in every truck comparison for a reason. They are shit.
I respect your opinion on the tundra, but I found that the Tundra consistently performed better for us. The rest either had some technical issue or couldn't pull the stuff we need to move around. In my opinion I would chose the Toyota Tundra over the rest.
Ghostrecon66 You're like my dad. I got so much shit from him when I got my truck because it wasn't a Toyota. They make great vehicles and everyone has different priorities. I bet half the people that buy trucks won't use the full towing capacity or payload capacity anyways, so people buy what they like. I'm glad you like your tundra. Enjoy it.
Also, your point about safety with the brakes is negated by the fact that you don't have a trailer brake built in.
Here are the facts. Ford's golden child eco boost has a fatal flaw and they know it. It's called hydrolock. Google it. When you ask a 4 cyl or v6 engine to move a full size pick-up and tow like one for long periods, turbo assisted or not, it breaks. Water stored in the intercooler is released on hard acceleration and some of it goes into the intake since that little v6 needs the boost at 2k rpm for torque vs 3 or 4k rpm when that same motor is in the Taurus. The ECU tries to make up for the lost torque, prematurely misfires, warps the rod, and on the next time up, wham! Through the block. From eco boost to eco bust in 2 seconds. It's just science. But good on ford for trying.
Want an f-150 with a naturally aspirated motor to give you better numbers than the 5.7? Get the 5.0 or 6.2. Just be prepped to pay $50-60k. Want a better gear ratio for towing than tundra? Sorry, you're SOL. 3.73 is as big as it gets in 1/2 ton fords. But you can get a 4.10 in the f-250! ;)
B. Tuttle Yea, you're full of shit. There isn't enough condensation from the intercooler to cause it to hydrolock. Nice try though.
Daniel Bell Ya, it is. That's a service bulletin from Ford. Not every truck has it, but some will experience it. Take it up with Ford if you don't like it. And ya, there's enough condensation on an intercooler moron. Turbo engine internal temps can reach 400 degrees. Notice I said internal temps not water temp before you come at me with that. So ya, once an engine is at running temp and water hits on an intercooler that hot, it turns to vapor. Where it is sucked up by the intake, meets cool air, and eventually condenses enough to go into the intake manifold=hydrolock. Boom. Knowledge bomb. You're welcome.
B. Tuttle Guess what knowledge bomber, I just looked up all the TSBs for the F150 EcoBoost since it's introduction and other than the TSB for condensation from 2013, nothing. Absolutely nothing about them hydrolocking. Guess your bomb was a dud.
Both good trucks for an average Joe or Jane looking to occasionally run to the box store, pull a wave runner or a yard of mulch in spring. Long term ownership (over 5 yrs) any bets which one needing the costly repairs will be the - - - -
Tundra is totally an image truck, regardless of how rugged it is.
My dad is both a Toyota and Ford guy. He has a few here in the U.S. In Mexico he keeps one of his Ford F-150, in Guatemala he keeps His 4x4 Toyota pickup. I truly wonder which he would take here?? I personally would take the Tundra as a Yota guy. And reliability of the motor is in check. That's just me though, both are great trucks.
The Tundra has not trailer break which the Ford offers so when you tow a heavy load you dont just use your trucks breaks but the trailer breaks also which helps alot. Love both the trucks great pickups but Ford had been around on making trucks way longer its no suprise that F150 is the number one selling truck in North America. They should of compared it to the 5.0 F150 and not the smallest engine 2.7 ecoboost.
Hey, the frame rust comes for free with a new Toyota?
This guy says that it matters more to have higher torque in 3rd-4th gear, when in reality the faster your wheel is spinning the lower the torque is anyways. Torque is most important for getting your movement started, especially when towing or if you're stuck in mud or snow. Which is why the most important torque point of comparison was at first gear, where the f150 smoked the tundra by 500 lb-ft
"We're keeping this apples to apples" ... 5 seconds later... "we chose a V-6 to a V-8"
At the time, Ford didn't offer a V8 engine and Toyota didn't offer a V6. This video went with the most popular engine options for each vehicle. Now both companies, thanks to government regulations, have switched solely to V6 engines. I suspect Toyota's reliability has taken a hit as a result.
Sorry but your wrong Ford has a v8 the 5.0 v8 get your facts right.
Only Toyota has broken the 1 million mile mark. Ford, Chevy, and Dodge will never do that.
The 4.6 and 5.4 2v motors can go that far with only oil changes
Wow -- some really good debates here. I never really considered a Toyota before now. I am in the early stages of truck reviews. Got to says the Ford owners seem to have a lot more passion about their rides! ;>)
So far I was looking mostly at the F150 2.7 EB as I only tow a handful of times a year when I go camping so the rest of the time I want value as well in the $$ I put into the tank. Even with the gas low now it will go up, it always does, so it matters based on my paycheck. With camper about 5100lb fully geared up, the 2.7 will do the trick just fine. Yes, I know I don't need a fullsize PU for this load -- it is more of a want then a need -- peace of mind thing and more cargo space needed as well as my current Pathfinder is lacking.
How did F150 become the # one truck -- better advertisement? A little probably LOL but I think they also put more thought as well and changes as per the customer complaints and concerns -- MPG is one of the biggest today, I know it is one of mine when looking at a fullsize PU.
As to holding their value -- well there a so many F150 out there, thus the competition is higher when it comes to resale - so the value drops -- at least that is my understanding. The Tundra is a nice looking truck -- I give it more points for that, but just a few.
For now my money is leaning towards the F150 2.7l ,, then Silverado, but I will crunch the numbers and look at this reasonably. I will need to go out and do a test drive of the Tundra, have never even sat in one before. Currently Toyota prices are higher here in Ontario even with cheaper finance rates - so that is another point for Ford and my wallet - but I have been won over once before on just looks and feels before and I have been married to her for 20yrs :)
Best wishes to all
Cheers, Patrick.
To sum up the video they compare their strongest engine to fords smallest engine. Kudos to you guys for cheating.
Give credit where it is due buy what you want. If your a Ford fanboy then get a Ford, pretty easy. I have been shopping for a fullsize truck and I can get a loaded SR5 for $38k the way I want it, the Ford is more like $45k. Also the resale value on the Tundra a great while the Ford not so good, my choice is Tundra but to each there own.
What they don't know is with the f150, you can limit and control what gear you're in. Tundra can only limit the gear..
"Tundra not designed for these image consumers". Shoot, I'm in that 17% and that's the only reason I bought my Tundra! Good thing I didn't tell the salesman that or they might not have sold it to me, haha.
Why wouldn't they have sold it to you?
+ChargersFanSD because the guy said it's not designed for "image conscience consumers" whereas I bought mine for image, haha. And for other reasons too. Best truck I ever owned.
+Nooby Vapor lol I'm planning on buying a Tundra because of that as well lol
How does the Tundra Auto LSD (Limited Slip Differential) work? Does it lock the differential gears to put power to both rear wheels?
A Marmot No, it just applies the rear breaks to try and simulate what a proper LSD does. Go look up the tests, they don't work and are junk.
I'm a proud Tundra owner and I have to agree to an extent. Sure it works for most people in a low traction situation, but in an actual off-road scenario.... its not exactly optimal. With that being said, it WILL work perfectly fine for the average truck owner.
For offroad it's the A-Trac (Toyota's traction control) that kicks in; and it's awsome. It makes the truck unstoppable.
JimmyDevere It's not as good as a true mechanical LSD, all it takes is a ditch or any angle and the truck won't go anywhere.
It's not as good as a mechanical LSD for driving on icy roads perhaps, but for off road a LSD is useless, only mechanical lockers are better than A-Trac which works excellent.
My Tundra does an excellent job of towing my 30" Airstream travel trailer which weighs 8,800# on the trailer axles at the CAT scales.
I seen toyotas squating hard with little to no weight. They look outdated. Especially inside.
Awesome information...Thank you.
Wow...5-bolt hubs on the Tundra, same as a Honda CR-V. Cute.