I bought a 2023 Ford F150 Powerboost and so far is excellent, great on every aspect, I did test drive a Tundra but it didn’t convince me , previously I owned a 2013 Ford F150 Ecoboost and the upgrade is just incredible. In my opinion I do agreed with you.
I bought the 2021 powerboost brand new. After two years of ownership, I love it more than any vehicle I have owned. I have hauled cross country, gone on family vacations, camped, daily commutes to downtown city, grocery runs, and baseball practice. Tons of room for family, tools, and everything else. Get great fuel economy over 23mpg, have raced a mustang and won, and towed a full size sedan over 2300 miles. Zero power train issues as of yet with 60k miles. Had a few recalls on little shit like wiper blades and tail gate, but nothing that wasn’t fixed for free and in under an hour. My only complaints have been I wish the front seats were more comfortable, feel very basic for $67k American.
I haven’t been as lucky. Mine is a 2022 with Max Tow and the rear axle bolts have sheared twice now and is currently back at the dealer waiting for a new transmission unit. All at 33k miles.
@@danielrosas7550 that is crazy. Hope you have better luck, since this is the second time I recommend you find a new dealer. At least your warranty is covering it.
I've got a 23' Powerboost Rattler (XL) and the seats are the only issue I'm dealing with. I can't quite find a good position and my back isn't loving it.
I also bought a 2021 Power boost brand new, and I have had exactly the same experience. This truck is vastly better than any other vehicle I have owned by a long shot. Passengers love it too!
I took delivery on my 2021 F150 power boost with the pro trailer package October 2 years ago. I did have one coil wire replaced under warranty at about 30,000 miles but other than that just new tires and oil changes. It’s an XLT but I did also add the panoramic sunroof m, Protrailer and upgraded to the 7.2 kW generator. At the time out the door price was $66K. I’ve got 47,000 miles and was averaging 22 miles to the gallon no matter how aggressively I drove until I bought a boat last month. When I’m towing the 4000 pound boat/ trailer package I get about 14 miles to the gallon city. I live in Northwest Florida, so I don’t have to go on a highway to get to water. The power, comfort and performance is amazing & the pro trailer package is incredible if you don’t have a lot of trailer experience already and you follow the directions. As a guy who lives in his truck for work, the greatest benefit to the hybrid power is that I can sit in a parking lot for an hour or two a day with the AC blasting in the hot sun, and still keep 22 miles to the gallon because the AC runs off the battery most of the time. The truck idles on and off may be every five minutes for one minute. The internal tracking tells me that one out of every 5 miles is pure electric.
I agree wholeheartedly with the reviewer. The Ford F150 Powerboost is an all round better hybrid truck than the Tundra, and that's why I now own three of them.......... one our personal truck (Lariat 502A) and two XLT Powerboosts for use in our businesses. The one XLT is used on remote sites and provides power for our equipment used in our mechanical engineering firm and the other XLT is used in the family quarry for basically the same purpose. These two work trucks have been a boon for our business and if they work out we plan at least one more lease of one. My personal Lariat Powerboost is a 2022 and we love it. We use it to tow our RV and since we dry camp a lot (boondock), the ProPowerOnBoard system has been so nice. There have been a couple recalls on the F150s, the last one being the replacement of the wiper motor; we got a loaner truck from the dealer while it was getting an oil change and the wiper motor switched out..... no big deal....... I'll get the two XLTs done when time permits. I don't understand all the fuss with recalls. I've been purchasing and driving new vehicles for 45 years and I can remember a time when I wish a manufacturer would recall for a problem situation. Everybody take a chill pill. Last but not least, the Tundra is an awkward looking truck and I was not impressed with the fit and finish in the couple I've seen at dealerships. Very happy Powerboost customer
My 21 powerburst Powerboost has been mainly good, a few recalls. I have had one aux pump failure, but I also think that's a teething problem with a bad batch of parts. Being a 21, it was pretty close to covid. However, my experience has been good. I can easily get 25 to 27 MPG in City. I can get 24 on highway but it's a little more tricky with elevation, wind etc. I love my storage behind the seat since there's no battery there. I love having my generator 7200 w in the bed for tailgating, movie night at the drive-in, camping, powering my RV, working with power tools, it really is a game-changer. I have powered my RV out of the bed several times. Love this truck, hope they keep refining it over the years.
I own a 2023 Powerboost Lariat with a little over 11,000 miles on it and so far no issues. I love the truck and can often get better than the rated milage. Extremely comfortable and quiet, which makes it nice when listening to the B&O sound system. I mostly listen to jazz and classical and can hear every note. I did however end up paying $88,000 out the door with the options.
I have a 22 XLT PB and I love it. My highway fuel economy is around 10L/100 when cruising at 110km/h. I use the hybrid throttle display when driving in the city. With a light foot I have also seen 10.5L/100 in stop and go traffic. One non-urgent recall was handled by the dealer during regular service - so no impact on me. The ride in this truck is very comfortable; so much so that my wife commented within 30 seconds of her first ride in it how smooth it was. I threw some Nokian winter boots on and she is a beast in ice and snow.
Historically, I own Toyotas but when the new Tundra premiered, it just didn’t stack up compared to the Powerboost. I decided to buy a 22 PB with the 7.2 kw Pro Power On Board. I have taken several long trips with this truck and it is great. The ride is smooth and comfortable. I haven’t had any issues thus far and the fuel economy is as advertised. I still love Toyotas but I also have no buyers remorse purchasing my F150.
That was my thought as I was doing this review. This new Tundra has increased complexity compared to the previous generation so i guess time will tell how reliable this twin-turbo hybrid powertrain will be.
I bet the 2023 Tundra will be pretty reliable now since it is the second year of the all new Tundra. Toyota tends to fix most problems the 1st year rather quickly. The very best time to buy for reliability is the 3rd year and on. Most automakers are like that, but even more so with Toyota….and yes I identify as a Toyota fanboy;)
Recently purchased a new 2023 F150 Platinum Powerboost. I was back and forth between it and a Hybrid Tundra. As much as I wanted to go with the Tundra (I’ve owned more Toyotas than I’ll admit, including a 2006 Tundra I loved), but honestly the fuel mileage gap and some other capacity gaps got me. I did hedge my bets with more warranty coverage than I would normally do.
I’m on my second f-150. I now have a 23 F-150 Platinum High Powerboost and it’s a great ride. I have 12k miles so far and averaging 20.8mpg. The reason I have chosen ford is payload capacity, Air conditioned seats and my f-150 prior was so good to me that I stuck with ford. Maybe I’ll try a tundra next.
Thanks for your insight as an owner! Did you have any major issues with your previous F-150? I'm assuming just scheduled maintenance with the new Powerboost?
I purchased my F-150 Lariat Powerboost in December of 22. I love it! Favorite truck ever hands down! However I don't tow as much as I used to but for what I do tow this truck handles it no problem. Ride is fantastic. Pop a few hundred for the 18 speaker sound system, trust me, worth every penney. MPG is roughly 22.5 (higher most of the time) and since you are running the cheapest gas versus diesel and that stupid diesel adative its very efficient for a truck.
Very good review! And one more important aspect is that you have an excellent speaking manner, good debit and comprehensive. Subbing without hesitation.
I own a 2023 Tundra TRD Sport CrewMax $55K modestly equipped. I am a Tundra fan as I have owned 2 of them and they meet my needs. Knowing the long term quality of Toyota… I just won’t go anywhere else. I think you buy what you are comfortable with as everyone has their own criteria and reasons. Get the one you feel good about and then go enjoy it. I would never talk anyone out of their choice.
I own a 2015 king ranch f150 with ecoboost with a little over 100k miles i absolutely love it. We pull our 30' camper around the U.S. with it and it still feels as solid as the day we bought it. Toyota makes a very good vehicle, my parents have a lexus sc 430 and are on their third prius. I have just not been lucky enough to buy a good one yet, spun rod bearing in my 02camry @80k, lost compression in my 05scion xb@106k, and transmission went out on my 06corolla@ 92k. All were purchased new and all maintenance was done regularly. Most miles ive put on any of the vehicles ive ever owned was 410k on my 91 escort gt and i sold that to a kid for $900 and i saw him around town in it for at least 2 more years.
I had a 2013 f150 xlt purchased new, which was ok as far as reliability. Then i traded it for another 2017 f150 xlt. Both with 3.5 ecoboost. My 2017 had lots of issues, including having to replace a turbo, tailgate hinge, transmission cable, 2 engine oil leaks, a master sensor for different equipment and others that i am forgetting right now. All this with 4 yrs of driving with only 44,000km which is 26,000 miles. I now have a 2023 Tundra... #notgoingbacktoford
If I were you I wouldn't go out in any storms, sound like you have no luck!! I have owned a 2013 and a now a 22 f150, no problems with either. Good luck with the Tundra
You said it, Neo! I bought a Ford Fusion, thinking I had made a reliable purchase and it was the worst car I ever owned. (I'm 62). EVERY Toyota I ever bought lasted well over 150,000 miles and I love my Tacoma.
Well had a 2013 f150 drove it hard and no problems, traded for a 22 f150. Ecoboost is awesome towing and truck has been flawless, have had other brands as well, not really any issues, but comfort and power in the f150 can't be beat
I have a 2023 Tundra I have had a Ford and GMC trucks Tundra by far is a better truck in my opinion Both Ford and GMC both had transmission problems before I hit 100,000 miles. I have 20,000 on the Tundra so far so we will see...
I have a 2023 lariat Powerboost. It's been great and it's an awesome truck. I powered my home 2 times so far, after a storm knocked the power out each time.
I ordered my powerpurse to pull and power our camper (and home as needed). A few months away from being 3 years old. Currently at 23k miles on it and not a single issue even sitting for months at a time.
Good so far. Gas mileage isn't the best, about the same as my 2013 f150, but my 2017 f150 was better. Truck is good, rides similar to my f150, only issue was a noisy driver seat... making noise when seating down coming from the back area. Got it fixed by the dealership. I am still very happy with my choice.
I have 28,000 miles on my Lariat Powerboost and have had only one issue so far, a leaking rear differential oil seal. I have had no failure, so far of my rear axle; a known defect of any F-150 with the Max Tow option, and something that I am always conscious of when taking my truck on any long trip. Over the 28000 miles, I am averaging 20.5 mpg and the best I've seen is 25.3 mpg over one 350 mile round trip.
I see many Ford/GM owners proudly say they have 30k, 40k,50k miles and have no issues, but for Toyota owner, it’s VERY common to have Zero issues for 100k or more. I, myself have owned 7 Toyota vehicles and never experienced the warranty service of Toyota because none of them had any issues during the warranty period. Now can Ford/GM owners say the same thing?
Wow what a difference in style and beauty! That F-150's body, interior, and components outweighs the Tundra by far I believe. You can tell when he drives them both. He just looks more comfortable driving the F-150
It costs the auto manufacturers more to build these vehicles than a decade ago since the price of materials has also increased. So of course the additional costs is passed to consumers.
Absolutely referring to dealer mark ups. When the dealers purchase the trucks from the manufacturer they already buy those trucks at cost so mark up by the numbers they are is ridiculous. But eventually it will come full circle I think we will see people whom did purchase these trucks at these prices fail on payments etc etc and as the truck sales fall so shall the prices unfortunately for me here in Canada trucks sell day in and day out !
@MGReviewsBlog I work at a dealership and have not seen any markups on f150s. The 24s are 3k off right after we got them. Who is charging more than sticker on f150?
I had a 2020 F150 loaded lariat that I loved, transmission had to be replaced with less than 30k miles and the dealer experience was very poor. I wouldn’t go back until they get it sorted, although I love the trucks.
@JourneyontheTrail the trans would be covered for up to 60k. Should not have any issues being under both warranties still. My 21 had 140k miles on it already and no issues
Good review seemed unbiased and straight forward. My last 2 trucks have been Tundra’s because I keep my trucks normally for 10+ years. Last being a 2020. Hopefully Toyota remedies the various issues they have with the last redesign before I look again. Just not sure if the domestics are any better at this point. I have 2 good friends that are both big Ford guys and both love their ecoboost engines. BUT both say it’s best to trade them off once the warranty runs out. Yea I don’t like to hear that…
Yep, we’ve had 3 Fords breakdown. We were not the first owner so I imagine that’s one of the reasons why. (We had each vehicle breakdown within 6/8 months of owning it.)I don’t think I will ever buy ford again. I imagine the owner saw it coming and bailed before it broke down.
I have a 2021 Ford f-150 XLT hybrid .25,000km on truck .I have already had to have the hybrid drive motor replaced under warranty.The fuel gauge was not correct ,and I ran out of gas .This depleted the charge in the hybrid battery .Ford Canada dealer does not have a recovery charger at the dealer I go to.They have to rent the recovery charger at $1,000 per day .Ford Canada wont cover the work as the say owner error in running out of gas. Should this be a recall issue ?
That hybrid system in the Ford is impressive , especially with the type of fuel economy that you got. I'm curious though to see what others say about the reliability too.
I have a 22 F150 Powerboost with Max Tow package. It’s at 33k miles right now as it sits at the dealer service port awaiting a new transmission and rear axle bolts. Axles bolts have been replaced twice now. First time was at 27k miles.
That's true, it's known for reliability. But this new hybrid powertrain is more complex than the outgoing N/A V8 so that's why I'm curious to know if any owners have had any major issues with it or if it's been smooth sailing.
According to commenters on here, F-150 transmissions are an issue! With features so close b/w the two trucks, I’d opt for the Tundra - reliability seizes the day every time!!
Congratulations on such a scientific survey. Yes, the UA-cam comment section has always been such a dependable place to obtain information (sarcasm). Perhaps there are some issues with some transmissions on some F150s. Go to other channels and you'll hear belly aching about issues with the new Tundra also. I've owned and leased a lot of F150s in the past number of years and I have yet to have an issue with any transmission or any turbo. I'm not sayng it doesn't happen, I just don't believe it's as rampant as you're assuming. As far as recalls go, yes I could see how the latest recall on my current F150s would scare anyone............ the recall for the wiper motor was replaced under warranty at the same time an oil change was performed at the dealer. I had the truck back in an hour and a half. Those darn recalls!
@@cwqrpportable yes sir very valid points well taken, thank you. At the end of the day, we all pick our poison and live w/ it. I’ve still got the family ‘63 GMC, 3/4t, 4x4, 4 on the floor. Personal preference has a lot to do w/ it. 👍🏻
Good video. I’m planning on buying a new truck in the spring and it’s going to be a hybrid. Cross shopping it sure looks like that Tundra is a better value after you add a few options.
I own a 23 tundra max and I am getting an average mpg of 18 and getting up to 27 on longer highway trips u need to get at least 10k or higher on the Toyota product before u get the right mpg takes longer to break in
My limited tundra iforce max getting 19.5 mpg in town and 23.7 on hightway. Mine is 2024 on normal mode. Sport mode will probably drop mpg. I haven't towed anything yet. We'll see what happens when I do that
@@MGReviewsBlog 5k mark ups,good thing most of the salesman that contacted me td me upfront how mech they mark up,so I said " forget it then" I just have to forget about trucks.
That's my thought process too but I can't help it wonder if the increased complexity of this new powertrain is as bulletproof as the old N/A V8. This new tundra has a twin-turbocharged hybrid V6 just like the Ford. So that's why I want to know from current owners if they've had any major issues with this new engine or if it's been smooth sailing.
I have a 21 PB and its been great. It gets 25mpg. I have pulled large trailers and it does it great. The toyota gets terrible MPG and thats common for the Tundra!
Is that the same quality that produces a cheap rattly interior, poor body panel fit, nuts that fall off axles, waste gate problems right from the very beginning? Is that the quality you're referring to? Too much Koolaid
Lol at least we know that Toyota will take care of these issues. How many million mile Tundras exist compared to ford? How long has ford been in the truck market compared to Toyota? Who's drinking the Kool aid?
@@mannysalamanca24 You’re obviously the one who’s drinking the KoolAid. Any and all issues I’ve ever had with an F150 have been fixed. How many one million mile Tundras vs F150s? Neither you or I know that for sure, nor does it really matter. There’s videos on the internet for both. Face it, the Tundra’s build quality is subpar. Check out Keith’s review of his new Tundra on his channel: “Trigger Happy”. Come back and tell me your explanation for the problems. When you’re done with that review see what “TRD Jon “ has to say about his first new design Tundra.
Seriously considering a Toyota Tundra after HORRIBLE customer service from Ford and the local dealer in Greer SC. They have had my 2022 Ford F150 Platinum there several times (total more than a month ) and everytime they touch it, I end up getting it back with more problems requiring another visit with check engine light on, Fuel gauge that only registers 7/8 after a fill up. (this happened after the last visit they replaced the fuel pump and R&R the tank for defective fuel pump) On board power not available after they did an update for flickering light recall. They don't provide loaners and a rental truck costs $95 of which Ford only pays $60. Tons of Recalls, HASSLE trying to schedule service for wiper motor recall, they can't even promise they will have the part when you bring your truck in with an appointment. REALLY?? FORD SUCKS!. I have a 2024 on order since 11/2/2023 and Ford apparently isn't releasing them even though it has been produced for "Quality" issues. I would expect better after paying $70,000 for a Ford truck! The new one is over $80,000. Ford better wise up or expect to lose market share! Toyota can't be worse.
I have the F-150 it's a 2021 Lariat fully loaded with the blue cruise self driving system,it's unbelievable how much they've gone up in just 2 years I git my truck at 71k no joking and it has the panoramic roof,7.2 generator that can power your home if needed,also it drives its self crazy prices now
@@MGReviewsBlog no Only issue i have is with bluetooth connectivity 3% of the time it doesn’t work properly. Other than that i love it! Specially the gas saving. I can to from Sacramento to San Diego in 1 tank
I owned 2014 ford 150, 2018 ford Expedition, both with ecoboost engine. I switched to 2023 tundra trd pro now. Ford doesn't have good reliability now, and it's expensive compare to Toyota
Lol come on how many million mile fords are there compared to Toyota. Toyota is king and at least I know Toyota will test their engines till failure, even this one
The Ramcharger is gping to make dinosaurs out of these trucks. Just a word of advice, you gain a much larger audience if you quote fuel milage in both KPL and MPG.
That's true but with the increased complexity of the turbocharging & hybrid, it's not as simple as the old N/A V8. Hopefully more current Tundra owners can provide us feedback on their ownership experience so far.
Not as of now. For the first time in many years, Tundra didn't make recommended by consumer reports back to back years. This is not the toyota of my day!
I have a 22 XLT Powerboost and love it. I do a lot of towing however, and fuel mileage with my travel trailer is no better than I got with my previous 2015 Ecoboost. Having said that, I also tried out a 22 Tundra, and quite frankly I did not like it as much as my 2015 Ford, let alone my 22. (and do not get me wrong, I am not a Ford guy, as I have owned 8 Toyotas in my time and only 3 Fords, and the first one was a piece of s**t. But when it comes to pick ups, I think for now at least Ford wins. Toyota might have been winning up until 2021, but I think the new Tundra missed the mark completely. The best half ton ever might have been the 2018 Tundra if only they would have built a full cab and a 6.5 foot box. Sadly a scrunch cab or a scrunch box was not on my radar.
Question about the hybrid engines on both. How the batteries charge? If I have a 3-4 days a week commute of about 7 miles each way. Is that enough for the hybrid engine to stay charge??? Thank you
These are self charging hybrid trucks. They are not plug-in hybrid trucks. Their batteries are small, less than 2 Kw, so they get consistently recharged by the engine and through regenerative braking.
Correct. So for someone that doesn’t drive much on a daily basis, is it worth the hybrid? Will driving about 15 miles a day enough to keep those batteries with some charge?
i have powerboost w 10k miles xlt w every option xlt can have i think and i really like it but i get about 21 mpg my last f150 was 2014 5.o that got around 17 if you put in eco mode it will do better main difference is it feels like it has maybe 100 more hp so i think ford did great wish they had built the lightning pro as a plug in hybrid w maybe the smaller engine for range extender maybe they will do that in future when i tow my boat which is very tall but lighg weight it gets 8 mpg
Yes! I completely agree with you. A PHEV pickup truck would make a bit more sense than the full electric Lightning. It seems like RAM will be doing that shortly with the new one that they have coming out. Hopefully it'll be a good one.
I am concerned with Toyota battery placement. Having it vent in the back seat and taking up space. I plan on getting one of these but i would really like to know as a Canadian living in Alberta. How dose the cold effect the hybrid system in the winter time? Dose it operate the same as in warmer temperatures? I have test drove the Toyota today for the first time and find the cab layout confusing. But it was nice to drive and talk to a sales representative that only wants the best for you and doesn't care if you buy it or not.
Even if its a gasoline-only version, fuel economy is going to take a bit of a hit in colder temperatures. But with the battery pack being placed inside the cab, it means less chance of it getting damaged if it was on the outside. Toyota also offers a 10 year / 240,000 km warranty on the battery.
The Ford is the better performer as far as specs. The 20k difference though… and the Toyota reliability would make me pause on the need for meeting the specs.
I don't blame you. As I said in the video, this new TTV6 Hybrid powertrain that Toyota added to the Tundra adds complication. It is impressive though when it's working properly, but it seems that there's some manufacturing problems of this engine that is causing a recall at the moment.
That's the camera shutter causing that effect. My bad. It's hard to tell if the lights are flickering or not on the little lcd screen on the camera so I didn't adjust the shutter speed accordingly.
I’m not going to do metric conversions while I’m driving along and listening to your video. do us a favor and include English conversions in your script
Why are you driving while watching/listening to my video!?!? The conversions are on the screen and I live in Canada, we use the metric system like the vast majority of the world.
So, you said the Ford was cheaper, yet you were talking about lower trim levels you didn't drive in this video and you said nothing of Toyota's lower trim levels. Am I missing something here? This looks like a completely biased. In fact the Toyota Limited like in this video starts $6k cheaper than the Lariat in this video. So where do you get that the Ford is cheaper?
First off, I can't pick & choose trim levels and options. I get what I get from the manufacturer's press fleets. Second, I'm comparing hybrid to hybrid powertrains. If you want to go down to the least expensive models, then the Ford would still be cheaper. Third, I'm looking at the hybrid powertrain prices (which is what I'm comparing in this video) and the F-150 is still less expensive to start with. So what numbers are you looking at?
The ford f-150 step tailgate is a poor design. My old man just bought a brand new F150 Lariat. We stopped by the ford dealer to grab his aftermarket wheels and tires from his trade in. After I loaded the wheels and tires up I went to jump off tailgate and turned my shoes to jump to the side. My shoe tread caught the plastic cap on top of the tailgate step in the middle of the tailgate, that was sticking up a quarter inch and snapped every clip in the tailgate. The ford mechanic laughed and said this happens all the time. Then jokingly told my dad he should have stuck with his 3.0L duramax because fords don’t make a good product anymore hahaha
Yea, I'm not a fan of Ford's tailgate step. GM's tailgate step is a sturdier design and a bit more versatile. Just got to remember to remove the tow hitch when lowering the step...
@Bronco2Cj if I could tell the future, I'd be rich by now haha. From what I'm hearing others say, interest rates should drop a bit later this year but not as they were before covid. It'll probably take another year or two until we get to that point provided there are no other major incidents happening in the world.
Now let’s talk reliability. I have a 2021 f150 Lariat3.5, and my opinion about ford, you can buy one only with zero options, totally ZERO! 2WD, naturally aspirated, nothing digital etc… and then you will have just a little more problems and issues than fully loaded Toyota (yes, still more). I have already about 10 recalls, and 5 problems except the recalls, I did 2 recalls and gave up, can’t waste my time and money (losing work days) visiting ford dealership every other day. My 2006 Ridgeline with 460,000km has WAY less problems.
All true except for one thing. My Ford F150 king wrench power boost is incredibly unreliable. In the last 2 1/2 years they’ve had to take one back and give me a new one and then twice I’ve been stranded, and the last time it took them a month yes, one month to repair the vehicle. Do not get the Ford hybrid.if you want a non-hybrid that Ford truck is awesome. If you want a long lasting vehicle get a Toyota.
I waited for this truck for three years and was so excited to get one in 2021. The first 15 days after I had it it freaked out on the highway and I was lucky to make it back to the dealership. At one point with the vehicle on the throttle did not work. It was scary. Then one time after I got my new one after three months, I was at the car wash Pulled into vacuum out my truck after the car wash and it would not start. The car was on like all the electricity worked, but it would not start. Then the Ford dealership sent a tow truck but they couldn’t get it on the tow truck because the driver didn’t know how to disengage the vehicle because you can’t put it out of park That took 10 days to fix a new module. Then a year later I was on a work trip thankfully only 120 miles away and the same thing happened where I came out after lunch and the vehicle would not start. This time they had to replace the entire hybrid battery, hybrid motor modules And it took a little over a month. I pleaded with Ford but to no avail. Almost $80,000 with 150,000 mile warranty and 70,000 miles 2 1/2 years old and I’m driving a vehicle that I have no trust in to make it home. It’s a shame because when it works I love it.
Ford make lousy vehicles. So many recalls, and reliability is so poor. They make their vehicles appeal on the sales lot and test drive, then fall apart after a short time. Ford from my experience is terrible.
Huh, I didn't notice the lack of front tow hooks. I just had a look at the TRD Pro that I reviewed before this video and that one doesn't have them either. As for the Ford, those are just tow mirrors. Optional extras.
Toyota is Japanese...... Actually the Tundra is built in Texas. But yes, I know what you mean. There are more options for configuration with the American brands.
That’s abysmal mileage on the F150. My 2018 2.7 will get within a mph or two of that. Don’t care about torque, blah blah blah. When will makers get serious about a mid to full size that gets good mileage?
My brother gets amazing fuel economy out if his 2017 2.7 but my trailer is but my trailer is bigger than what the 2.7 is rated for so it's a 3.5 for me.
I have a 2021 powerboost and love it. Good power good fuel economy 12,000 lbs of towing. Also have alot of good tech with over the air updates. Hate Toyota feels like a toy truck. Buy American 🇺🇲
I bought a 2023 Ford F150 Powerboost and so far is excellent, great on every aspect, I did test drive a Tundra but it didn’t convince me , previously I owned a 2013 Ford F150 Ecoboost and the upgrade is just incredible.
In my opinion I do agreed with you.
I bought the 2021 powerboost brand new. After two years of ownership, I love it more than any vehicle I have owned. I have hauled cross country, gone on family vacations, camped, daily commutes to downtown city, grocery runs, and baseball practice. Tons of room for family, tools, and everything else. Get great fuel economy over 23mpg, have raced a mustang and won, and towed a full size sedan over 2300 miles. Zero power train issues as of yet with 60k miles. Had a few recalls on little shit like wiper blades and tail gate, but nothing that wasn’t fixed for free and in under an hour. My only complaints have been I wish the front seats were more comfortable, feel very basic for $67k American.
Thanks for your insights as an owner!
I haven’t been as lucky. Mine is a 2022 with Max Tow and the rear axle bolts have sheared twice now and is currently back at the dealer waiting for a new transmission unit. All at 33k miles.
@@danielrosas7550 that is crazy. Hope you have better luck, since this is the second time I recommend you find a new dealer. At least your warranty is covering it.
I've got a 23' Powerboost Rattler (XL) and the seats are the only issue I'm dealing with. I can't quite find a good position and my back isn't loving it.
I also bought a 2021 Power boost brand new, and I have had exactly the same experience. This truck is vastly better than any other vehicle I have owned by a long shot. Passengers love it too!
I took delivery on my 2021 F150 power boost with the pro trailer package October 2 years ago. I did have one coil wire replaced under warranty at about 30,000 miles but other than that just new tires and oil changes.
It’s an XLT but I did also add the panoramic sunroof m, Protrailer and upgraded to the 7.2 kW generator. At the time out the door price was $66K.
I’ve got 47,000 miles and was averaging 22 miles to the gallon no matter how aggressively I drove until I bought a boat last month. When I’m towing the 4000 pound boat/ trailer package I get about 14 miles to the gallon city. I live in Northwest Florida, so I don’t have to go on a highway to get to water.
The power, comfort and performance is amazing & the pro trailer package is incredible if you don’t have a lot of trailer experience already and you follow the directions.
As a guy who lives in his truck for work, the greatest benefit to the hybrid power is that I can sit in a parking lot for an hour or two a day with the AC blasting in the hot sun, and still keep 22 miles to the gallon because the AC runs off the battery most of the time. The truck idles on and off may be every five minutes for one minute.
The internal tracking tells me that one out of every 5 miles is pure electric.
Thanks for that detailed insight of your ownership!
I have a 2023 love it power boost
I agree wholeheartedly with the reviewer. The Ford F150 Powerboost is an all round better hybrid truck than the Tundra, and that's why I now own three of them.......... one our personal truck (Lariat 502A) and two XLT Powerboosts for use in our businesses. The one XLT is used on remote sites and provides power for our equipment used in our mechanical engineering firm and the other XLT is used in the family quarry for basically the same purpose. These two work trucks have been a boon for our business and if they work out we plan at least one more lease of one. My personal Lariat Powerboost is a 2022 and we love it. We use it to tow our RV and since we dry camp a lot (boondock), the ProPowerOnBoard system has been so nice. There have been a couple recalls on the F150s, the last one being the replacement of the wiper motor; we got a loaner truck from the dealer while it was getting an oil change and the wiper motor switched out..... no big deal....... I'll get the two XLTs done when time permits. I don't understand all the fuss with recalls. I've been purchasing and driving new vehicles for 45 years and I can remember a time when I wish a manufacturer would recall for a problem situation. Everybody take a chill pill.
Last but not least, the Tundra is an awkward looking truck and I was not impressed with the fit and finish in the couple I've seen at dealerships.
Very happy Powerboost customer
Thanks for your insight as an owner!
My 21 powerburst Powerboost has been mainly good, a few recalls. I have had one aux pump failure, but I also think that's a teething problem with a bad batch of parts. Being a 21, it was pretty close to covid. However, my experience has been good. I can easily get 25 to 27 MPG in City. I can get 24 on highway but it's a little more tricky with elevation, wind etc. I love my storage behind the seat since there's no battery there. I love having my generator 7200 w in the bed for tailgating, movie night at the drive-in, camping, powering my RV, working with power tools, it really is a game-changer. I have powered my RV out of the bed several times. Love this truck, hope they keep refining it over the years.
Thanks for your owner's insight!
Do you have the Max Tow package?
@@danielrosas7550 just regular tow package. I'm glad I didn't get Max tow with all the bolts breaking.
I own a 2023 Powerboost Lariat with a little over 11,000 miles on it and so far no issues. I love the truck and can often get better than the rated milage. Extremely comfortable and quiet, which makes it nice when listening to the B&O sound system. I mostly listen to jazz and classical and can hear every note. I did however end up paying $88,000 out the door with the options.
Thanks for your insight as an owner!
Spend a dollar to save a dime
I have a 22 XLT PB and I love it. My highway fuel economy is around 10L/100 when cruising at 110km/h. I use the hybrid throttle display when driving in the city. With a light foot I have also seen 10.5L/100 in stop and go traffic. One non-urgent recall was handled by the dealer during regular service - so no impact on me. The ride in this truck is very comfortable; so much so that my wife commented within 30 seconds of her first ride in it how smooth it was. I threw some Nokian winter boots on and she is a beast in ice and snow.
Thanks for your insight as an owner!
Historically, I own Toyotas but when the new Tundra premiered, it just didn’t stack up compared to the Powerboost. I decided to buy a 22 PB with the 7.2 kw Pro Power On Board. I have taken several long trips with this truck and it is great. The ride is smooth and comfortable. I haven’t had any issues thus far and the fuel economy is as advertised. I still love Toyotas but I also have no buyers remorse purchasing my F150.
That was my thought as I was doing this review. This new Tundra has increased complexity compared to the previous generation so i guess time will tell how reliable this twin-turbo hybrid powertrain will be.
I bet the 2023 Tundra will be pretty reliable now since it is the second year of the all new Tundra. Toyota tends to fix most problems the 1st year rather quickly. The very best time to buy for reliability is the 3rd year and on. Most automakers are like that, but even more so with Toyota….and yes I identify as a Toyota fanboy;)
i have a tundra 2023 iforceMax, its been 6/7 months now. do usual truck stuff, no issues yet. i'm pretty happy with it.
Wow! 7 months and no fit and finish, turbo or axle problems? Congrats!
Turbo and Axel problems were only a small percentage of the trucks lol
Recently purchased a new 2023 F150 Platinum Powerboost. I was back and forth between it and a Hybrid Tundra. As much as I wanted to go with the Tundra (I’ve owned more Toyotas than I’ll admit, including a 2006 Tundra I loved), but honestly the fuel mileage gap and some other capacity gaps got me. I did hedge my bets with more warranty coverage than I would normally do.
Congrats on your new truck!
I’m on my second f-150. I now have a 23 F-150 Platinum High Powerboost and it’s a great ride. I have 12k miles so far and averaging 20.8mpg. The reason I have chosen ford is payload capacity, Air conditioned seats and my f-150 prior was so good to me that I stuck with ford. Maybe I’ll try a tundra next.
Thanks for your insight as an owner! Did you have any major issues with your previous F-150? I'm assuming just scheduled maintenance with the new Powerboost?
I purchased my F-150 Lariat Powerboost in December of 22. I love it! Favorite truck ever hands down! However I don't tow as much as I used to but for what I do tow this truck handles it no problem. Ride is fantastic. Pop a few hundred for the 18 speaker sound system, trust me, worth every penney. MPG is roughly 22.5 (higher most of the time) and since you are running the cheapest gas versus diesel and that stupid diesel adative its very efficient for a truck.
Thanks for sharing!
Very good review! And one more important aspect is that you have an excellent speaking manner, good debit and comprehensive.
Subbing without hesitation.
I own a 2023 Tundra TRD Sport CrewMax $55K modestly equipped. I am a Tundra fan as I have owned 2 of them and they meet my needs. Knowing the long term quality of Toyota… I just won’t go anywhere else. I think you buy what you are comfortable with as everyone has their own criteria and reasons. Get the one you feel good about and then go enjoy it. I would never talk anyone out of their choice.
Well said my friend.
I own a 2015 king ranch f150 with ecoboost with a little over 100k miles i absolutely love it. We pull our 30' camper around the U.S. with it and it still feels as solid as the day we bought it. Toyota makes a very good vehicle, my parents have a lexus sc 430 and are on their third prius. I have just not been lucky enough to buy a good one yet, spun rod bearing in my 02camry @80k, lost compression in my 05scion xb@106k, and transmission went out on my 06corolla@ 92k. All were purchased new and all maintenance was done regularly. Most miles ive put on any of the vehicles ive ever owned was 410k on my 91 escort gt and i sold that to a kid for $900 and i saw him around town in it for at least 2 more years.
I had a 2013 f150 xlt purchased new, which was ok as far as reliability. Then i traded it for another 2017 f150 xlt. Both with 3.5 ecoboost. My 2017 had lots of issues, including having to replace a turbo, tailgate hinge, transmission cable, 2 engine oil leaks, a master sensor for different equipment and others that i am forgetting right now. All this with 4 yrs of driving with only 44,000km which is 26,000 miles. I now have a 2023 Tundra... #notgoingbacktoford
How is your tundra treating you
If I were you I wouldn't go out in any storms, sound like you have no luck!! I have owned a 2013 and a now a 22 f150, no problems with either. Good luck with the Tundra
You said it, Neo! I bought a Ford Fusion, thinking I had made a reliable purchase and it was the worst car I ever owned. (I'm 62). EVERY Toyota I ever bought lasted well over 150,000 miles and I love my Tacoma.
I am looking hard at the Tundra.
Well had a 2013 f150 drove it hard and no problems, traded for a 22 f150. Ecoboost is awesome towing and truck has been flawless, have had other brands as well, not really any issues, but comfort and power in the f150 can't be beat
I have a 2023 Tundra
I have had a Ford and GMC trucks
Tundra by far is a better truck in my opinion
Both Ford and GMC both had transmission problems before I hit 100,000 miles.
I have 20,000 on the Tundra so far so we will see...
Yup.
My 21 f150 has 148k on it and no issues at all. Been good for me and I drive a lot
I have a 2023 lariat Powerboost. It's been great and it's an awesome truck. I powered my home 2 times so far, after a storm knocked the power out each time.
I ordered my powerpurse to pull and power our camper (and home as needed). A few months away from being 3 years old. Currently at 23k miles on it and not a single issue even sitting for months at a time.
Thanks for your insight as an owner!
Have a 2021 limited with every option offered. Love it. 4500 miles
Good so far. Gas mileage isn't the best, about the same as my 2013 f150, but my 2017 f150 was better. Truck is good, rides similar to my f150, only issue was a noisy driver seat... making noise when seating down coming from the back area. Got it fixed by the dealership. I am still very happy with my choice.
Thanks for sharing!
I have 28,000 miles on my Lariat Powerboost and have had only one issue so far, a leaking rear differential oil seal. I have had no failure, so far of my rear axle; a known defect of any F-150 with the Max Tow option, and something that I am always conscious of when taking my truck on any long trip. Over the 28000 miles, I am averaging 20.5 mpg and the best I've seen is 25.3 mpg over one 350 mile round trip.
Thanks for your insight as an owner!
I see many Ford/GM owners proudly say they have 30k, 40k,50k miles and have no issues, but for Toyota owner, it’s VERY common to have Zero issues for 100k or more. I, myself have owned 7 Toyota vehicles and never experienced the warranty service of Toyota because none of them had any issues during the warranty period. Now can Ford/GM owners say the same thing?
That way pre pandemic toyota. They’re pretty terrible now.
Wow what a difference in style and beauty! That F-150's body, interior, and components outweighs the Tundra by far I believe. You can tell when he drives them both. He just looks more comfortable driving the F-150
Yes, I did find the F150 a bit more comfortable than the Tundra.
It’s ridiculous how much the prices are jacked up on these trucks ! Ford and Toyota really need to have a chat with these dealerships
I 1,000,000% agree with you. But it's not just Ford & Toyota dealers that are guilty of this.
It costs the auto manufacturers more to build these vehicles than a decade ago since the price of materials has also increased. So of course the additional costs is passed to consumers.
@@mikehughes8023 That I understand. But we were referring to dealership markups, or at least I was. It's getting really out of hand.
Absolutely referring to dealer mark ups. When the dealers purchase the trucks from the manufacturer they already buy those trucks at cost so mark up by the numbers they are is ridiculous. But eventually it will come full circle I think we will see people whom did purchase these trucks at these prices fail on payments etc etc and as the truck sales fall so shall the prices unfortunately for me here in Canada trucks sell day in and day out !
@MGReviewsBlog I work at a dealership and have not seen any markups on f150s. The 24s are 3k off right after we got them. Who is charging more than sticker on f150?
I had a 2020 F150 loaded lariat that I loved, transmission had to be replaced with less than 30k miles and the dealer experience was very poor. I wouldn’t go back until they get it sorted, although I love the trucks.
I’m in a similar boat…I absolutely love my 2019 Lariat but with only 32k miles and fighting to get them to replace transmission.
@JourneyontheTrail the trans would be covered for up to 60k. Should not have any issues being under both warranties still. My 21 had 140k miles on it already and no issues
Good review seemed unbiased and straight forward. My last 2 trucks have been Tundra’s because I keep my trucks normally for 10+ years. Last being a 2020. Hopefully Toyota remedies the various issues they have with the last redesign before I look again. Just not sure if the domestics are any better at this point. I have 2 good friends that are both big Ford guys and both love their ecoboost engines. BUT both say it’s best to trade them off once the warranty runs out. Yea I don’t like to hear that…
Thanks and thank you for sharing your insights as an owner!
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Yep, we’ve had 3 Fords breakdown. We were not the first owner so I imagine that’s one of the reasons why. (We had each vehicle breakdown within 6/8 months of owning it.)I don’t think I will ever buy ford again. I imagine the owner saw it coming and bailed before it broke down.
I have a 2021 Ford f-150 XLT hybrid .25,000km on truck .I have already had to have the hybrid drive motor replaced under warranty.The fuel gauge was not correct ,and I ran out of gas .This depleted the charge in the hybrid battery .Ford Canada dealer does not have a recovery charger at the dealer I go to.They have to rent the recovery charger at $1,000 per day .Ford Canada wont cover the work as the say owner error in running out of gas. Should this be a recall issue ?
Thanks for your insight as an owner!
That hybrid system in the Ford is impressive , especially with the type of fuel economy that you got. I'm curious though to see what others say about the reliability too.
I have a 22 F150 Powerboost with Max Tow package. It’s at 33k miles right now as it sits at the dealer service port awaiting a new transmission and rear axle bolts. Axles bolts have been replaced twice now. First time was at 27k miles.
Then there's the "R" word! Reliability!
Tundra, hands down!
That's true, it's known for reliability. But this new hybrid powertrain is more complex than the outgoing N/A V8 so that's why I'm curious to know if any owners have had any major issues with it or if it's been smooth sailing.
According to commenters on here, F-150 transmissions are an issue! With features so close b/w the two trucks, I’d opt for the Tundra - reliability seizes the day every time!!
Congratulations on such a scientific survey. Yes, the UA-cam comment section has always been such a dependable place to obtain information (sarcasm). Perhaps there are some issues with some transmissions on some F150s. Go to other channels and you'll hear belly aching about issues with the new Tundra also. I've owned and leased a lot of F150s in the past number of years and I have yet to have an issue with any transmission or any turbo. I'm not sayng it doesn't happen, I just don't believe it's as rampant as you're assuming. As far as recalls go, yes I could see how the latest recall on my current F150s would scare anyone............ the recall for the wiper motor was replaced under warranty at the same time an oil change was performed at the dealer. I had the truck back in an hour and a half. Those darn recalls!
@@cwqrpportable yes sir very valid points well taken, thank you. At the end of the day, we all pick our poison and live w/ it. I’ve still got the family ‘63 GMC, 3/4t, 4x4, 4 on the floor. Personal preference has a lot to do w/ it. 👍🏻
Your right the f150 have considerable issues
@@lanceevans4053 * You’re, not “Your”
@@cwqrpportable lol thanks for grammar help
Toyota might be king of cheap, midsized cars but Ford is king of trucks.
Only a month in, but I am enjoying my F-150 PB and averaging 24.5 MPG in mainly city driving over the first 1800 miles.
Good video. I’m planning on buying a new truck in the spring and it’s going to be a hybrid. Cross shopping it sure looks like that Tundra is a better value after you add a few options.
Thanks! Yup, the Tundra does get you more for your money. Hopefully your local dealer won't tack on the high markups.
The Toyota will definitely last longer.
I own a 23 tundra max and I am getting an average mpg of 18 and getting up to 27 on longer highway trips u need to get at least 10k or higher on the Toyota product before u get the right mpg takes longer to break in
Your opinion is absolutely correct!
Thanks!
My limited tundra iforce max getting 19.5 mpg in town and 23.7 on hightway. Mine is 2024 on normal mode. Sport mode will probably drop mpg. I haven't towed anything yet. We'll see what happens when I do that
THE MARK UPS ARE RIDICULOUS.
How much are they in your area?
@@MGReviewsBlog 5k mark ups,good thing most of the salesman that contacted me td me upfront how mech they mark up,so I said " forget it then" I just have to forget about trucks.
The 24s are 3k off here where I work at. Right when they drop. No dealership around me is doing markups. Where do you live?
Tundra is a tank and will last forever. Ford F150 is luxury, options, and complexity thus issues. As a veteran I always pick the tank.
That's my thought process too but I can't help it wonder if the increased complexity of this new powertrain is as bulletproof as the old N/A V8. This new tundra has a twin-turbocharged hybrid V6 just like the Ford. So that's why I want to know from current owners if they've had any major issues with this new engine or if it's been smooth sailing.
Great question, but I trust the Toyota company more than I do Ford from past experience. @@MGReviewsBlog
@@Rottingboards ahhh,fair enough. what issues did you have with Ford?
Lol this didn't age well either!!😂😂
@@davidgrunklee8407 I still stand by Toyota. They did the right thing by replacing the entire engine.
I have a 21 PB and its been great. It gets 25mpg. I have pulled large trailers and it does it great. The toyota gets terrible MPG and thats common for the Tundra!
Toyota quality, nuff said!
Is that the same quality that produces a cheap rattly interior, poor body panel fit, nuts that fall off axles, waste gate problems right from the very beginning? Is that the quality you're referring to? Too much Koolaid
Lol at least we know that Toyota will take care of these issues. How many million mile Tundras exist compared to ford? How long has ford been in the truck market compared to Toyota? Who's drinking the Kool aid?
@@mannysalamanca24 You’re obviously the one who’s drinking the KoolAid. Any and all issues I’ve ever had with an F150 have been fixed. How many one million mile Tundras vs F150s? Neither you or I know that for sure, nor does it really matter. There’s videos on the internet for both. Face it, the Tundra’s build quality is subpar. Check out Keith’s review of his new Tundra on his channel: “Trigger Happy”. Come back and tell me your explanation for the problems. When you’re done with that review see what “TRD Jon “ has to say about his first new design Tundra.
@@cwqrpportable people still think Toyota are the same as the 98 tocomas. 😂 I traded my tacoma at 28k miles. Never looking back.
@@justsomeguy697 👍 Interesting…
Seriously considering a Toyota Tundra after HORRIBLE customer service from Ford and the local dealer in Greer SC. They have had my 2022 Ford F150 Platinum there several times (total more than a month ) and everytime they touch it, I end up getting it back with more problems requiring another visit with check engine light on, Fuel gauge that only registers 7/8 after a fill up. (this happened after the last visit they replaced the fuel pump and R&R the tank for defective fuel pump) On board power not available after they did an update for flickering light recall. They don't provide loaners and a rental truck costs $95 of which Ford only pays $60. Tons of Recalls, HASSLE trying to schedule service for wiper motor recall, they can't even promise they will have the part when you bring your truck in with an appointment. REALLY?? FORD SUCKS!. I have a 2024 on order since 11/2/2023 and Ford apparently isn't releasing them even though it has been produced for "Quality" issues. I would expect better after paying $70,000 for a Ford truck! The new one is over $80,000. Ford better wise up or expect to lose market share! Toyota can't be worse.
forgot to mention that it only has 8,000 miles on it
I have the F-150 it's a 2021 Lariat fully loaded with the blue cruise self driving system,it's unbelievable how much they've gone up in just 2 years I git my truck at 71k no joking and it has the panoramic roof,7.2 generator that can power your home if needed,also it drives its self crazy prices now
:( everything is so much more expensive over the last couple of years
I have a 2021 Ford F-150 Limited and about 25k miles on it and I tow a 27 foot airstream regularly and have had no issues…..
Thanks for your insight!
I own a 2023 f150 poewerboost and is great i think is the sweet spot in between gas power and electric efficiency
Any issues with the hybrid powertrain so far?
@@MGReviewsBlog no
Only issue i have is with bluetooth connectivity 3% of the time it doesn’t work properly. Other than that i love it!
Specially the gas saving. I can to from Sacramento to San Diego in 1 tank
Toyota is king!!!! Reliability reputation at its finest. Both are twin turbo v6s but only only one company will take care of you in the long run.
I owned 2014 ford 150, 2018 ford Expedition, both with ecoboost engine. I switched to 2023 tundra trd pro now. Ford doesn't have good reliability now, and it's expensive compare to Toyota
What went wrong with the ecoboost engine?
@@MGReviewsBlog He has to research some more on the internet in order to give you an answer
Lol come on how many million mile fords are there compared to Toyota. Toyota is king and at least I know Toyota will test their engines till failure, even this one
Hahaha how do you feel now after Toyota recalled hundreds of thousands of those new Tundras? 😂
The Ramcharger is gping to make dinosaurs out of these trucks. Just a word of advice, you gain a much larger audience if you quote fuel milage in both KPL and MPG.
The conversions are literally on the screen!!
Which will be better in ten years? Toyota certainly has a better reputation..
That's true but with the increased complexity of the turbocharging & hybrid, it's not as simple as the old N/A V8. Hopefully more current Tundra owners can provide us feedback on their ownership experience so far.
Not as of now. For the first time in many years, Tundra didn't make recommended by consumer reports back to back years. This is not the toyota of my day!
Those days are over at least for 2023 Tundra.
True but that goes both ways but at least Toyota has the customer service reputation and reliability reputation to go with it
Not anymore and I’m an American soooo
I have a 22 XLT Powerboost and love it. I do a lot of towing however, and fuel mileage with my travel trailer is no better than I got with my previous 2015 Ecoboost. Having said that, I also tried out a 22 Tundra, and quite frankly I did not like it as much as my 2015 Ford, let alone my 22. (and do not get me wrong, I am not a Ford guy, as I have owned 8 Toyotas in my time and only 3 Fords, and the first one was a piece of s**t. But when it comes to pick ups, I think for now at least Ford wins. Toyota might have been winning up until 2021, but I think the new Tundra missed the mark completely. The best half ton ever might have been the 2018 Tundra if only they would have built a full cab and a 6.5 foot box. Sadly a scrunch cab or a scrunch box was not on my radar.
"Scrunch cab", haha, I've never heard that term before. Thanks for your insight as an owner!
Can you run a welder with the Toyota?
Question about the hybrid engines on both. How the batteries charge? If I have a 3-4 days a week commute of about 7 miles each way. Is that enough for the hybrid engine to stay charge???
Thank you
These are self charging hybrid trucks. They are not plug-in hybrid trucks. Their batteries are small, less than 2 Kw, so they get consistently recharged by the engine and through regenerative braking.
Correct. So for someone that doesn’t drive much on a daily basis, is it worth the hybrid? Will driving about 15 miles a day enough to keep those batteries with some charge?
Two very nice trucks.
Toyota Tundra ❤️ Ford F 150
i have powerboost w 10k miles xlt w every option xlt can have i think and i really like it but i get about 21 mpg my last f150 was 2014 5.o that got around 17
if you put in eco mode it will do better
main difference is it feels like it has maybe 100 more hp so i think ford did great
wish they had built the lightning pro as a plug in hybrid w maybe the smaller engine for range extender
maybe they will do that in future
when i tow my boat which is very tall but lighg weight it gets 8 mpg
Yes! I completely agree with you. A PHEV pickup truck would make a bit more sense than the full electric Lightning. It seems like RAM will be doing that shortly with the new one that they have coming out. Hopefully it'll be a good one.
I am concerned with Toyota battery placement. Having it vent in the back seat and taking up space. I plan on getting one of these but i would really like to know as a Canadian living in Alberta. How dose the cold effect the hybrid system in the winter time? Dose it operate the same as in warmer temperatures? I have test drove the Toyota today for the first time and find the cab layout confusing. But it was nice to drive and talk to a sales representative that only wants the best for you and doesn't care if you buy it or not.
Even if its a gasoline-only version, fuel economy is going to take a bit of a hit in colder temperatures. But with the battery pack being placed inside the cab, it means less chance of it getting damaged if it was on the outside. Toyota also offers a 10 year / 240,000 km warranty on the battery.
Great information thank you
The Ford is the better performer as far as specs. The 20k difference though… and the Toyota reliability would make me pause on the need for meeting the specs.
If toyota had a na v8 still I would be sold , im terrified of the twin turbos
I don't blame you. As I said in the video, this new TTV6 Hybrid powertrain that Toyota added to the Tundra adds complication. It is impressive though when it's working properly, but it seems that there's some manufacturing problems of this engine that is causing a recall at the moment.
One does not come with front town hooks.
Look at the difference in the led headlights flickering and not flickering
That's the camera shutter causing that effect. My bad. It's hard to tell if the lights are flickering or not on the little lcd screen on the camera so I didn't adjust the shutter speed accordingly.
I don’t like the ford ecoboost.because It has a belt that drives the oil pump submerged in hot oil that don’t make no sense to me
My new 2024 tundra hybrid limited has horrible wind noise and a ton of little things going wrong
OOoooo, what sort of little things going wrong with it?
The gear skip I for fuel economy. My Dad's vette used to do it, unless you were in race mode. Annoying
I’m not going to do metric conversions while I’m driving along and listening to your video. do us a favor and include English conversions in your script
Why are you driving while watching/listening to my video!?!?
The conversions are on the screen and I live in Canada, we use the metric system like the vast majority of the world.
So, you said the Ford was cheaper, yet you were talking about lower trim levels you didn't drive in this video and you said nothing of Toyota's lower trim levels. Am I missing something here? This looks like a completely biased. In fact the Toyota Limited like in this video starts $6k cheaper than the Lariat in this video. So where do you get that the Ford is cheaper?
First off, I can't pick & choose trim levels and options. I get what I get from the manufacturer's press fleets.
Second, I'm comparing hybrid to hybrid powertrains. If you want to go down to the least expensive models, then the Ford would still be cheaper.
Third, I'm looking at the hybrid powertrain prices (which is what I'm comparing in this video) and the F-150 is still less expensive to start with. So what numbers are you looking at?
Was the ford a lariat?
Yes, it was the Lariat tirm
Ford has more convenient options
f150 is king for a reason simple.
toyota still trying to keep up
I'm placing my money on a better reputation. That would be the Toyota, of course.
The ford f-150 step tailgate is a poor design. My old man just bought a brand new F150 Lariat. We stopped by the ford dealer to grab his aftermarket wheels and tires from his trade in. After I loaded the wheels and tires up I went to jump off tailgate and turned my shoes to jump to the side. My shoe tread caught the plastic cap on top of the tailgate step in the middle of the tailgate, that was sticking up a quarter inch and snapped every clip in the tailgate. The ford mechanic laughed and said this happens all the time. Then jokingly told my dad he should have stuck with his 3.0L duramax because fords don’t make a good product anymore hahaha
Yea, I'm not a fan of Ford's tailgate step. GM's tailgate step is a sturdier design and a bit more versatile. Just got to remember to remove the tow hitch when lowering the step...
@@MGReviewsBlog are we pretty much screwed or could we see truck prices as well as interest rates drop?
@Bronco2Cj if I could tell the future, I'd be rich by now haha. From what I'm hearing others say, interest rates should drop a bit later this year but not as they were before covid. It'll probably take another year or two until we get to that point provided there are no other major incidents happening in the world.
Likely story
Ford is superior in nearly every metric. The tundra interior feels cramped and the seats are nowhere near as comfortable as the F150.
Toyota trucks are American trucks they’re built here
Now let’s talk reliability.
I have a 2021 f150 Lariat3.5, and my opinion about ford, you can buy one only with zero options, totally ZERO!
2WD, naturally aspirated, nothing digital etc… and then you will have just a little more problems and issues than fully loaded Toyota (yes, still more).
I have already about 10 recalls, and 5 problems except the recalls, I did 2 recalls and gave up, can’t waste my time and money (losing work days) visiting ford dealership every other day.
My 2006 Ridgeline with 460,000km has WAY less problems.
All true except for one thing. My Ford F150 king wrench power boost is incredibly unreliable. In the last 2 1/2 years they’ve had to take one back and give me a new one and then twice I’ve been stranded, and the last time it took them a month yes, one month to repair the vehicle. Do not get the Ford hybrid.if you want a non-hybrid that Ford truck is awesome. If you want a long lasting vehicle get a Toyota.
I can imagine how frustrating that can be. What went wrong with them?
I waited for this truck for three years and was so excited to get one in 2021. The first 15 days after I had it it freaked out on the highway and I was lucky to make it back to the dealership. At one point with the vehicle on the throttle did not work. It was scary. Then one time after I got my new one after three months, I was at the car wash Pulled into vacuum out my truck after the car wash and it would not start. The car was on like all the electricity worked, but it would not start. Then the Ford dealership sent a tow truck but they couldn’t get it on the tow truck because the driver didn’t know how to disengage the vehicle because you can’t put it out of park That took 10 days to fix a new module. Then a year later I was on a work trip thankfully only 120 miles away and the same thing happened where I came out after lunch and the vehicle would not start. This time they had to replace the entire hybrid battery, hybrid motor modules And it took a little over a month. I pleaded with Ford but to no avail. Almost $80,000 with 150,000 mile warranty and 70,000 miles 2 1/2 years old and I’m driving a vehicle that I have no trust in to make it home. It’s a shame because when it works I love it.
Just passed by a brand new ford truck that stalled lmao.
Quit apologizing, it’s a sign of weakness!
My motor blew last night at 33k miles on it
If that tells you anything
Sorry to hear that. What went wrong on it?
Said either the main bearing or rod
They are wanting to do a short block rebuild
On a Tundra or a Ford?
2023 Tundra
Ford make lousy vehicles. So many recalls, and reliability is so poor.
They make their vehicles appeal on the sales lot and test drive, then fall apart after a short time.
Ford from my experience is terrible.
Which model did you have and what kind of problems did you experience?
Toyota missed on towing hooks, but those ugggggggggggly side mirrors on the Ford makes me want to look away
Huh, I didn't notice the lack of front tow hooks. I just had a look at the TRD Pro that I reviewed before this video and that one doesn't have them either.
As for the Ford, those are just tow mirrors. Optional extras.
Ford is a much much better truck than this new Tundra
😂😂😂😂😂
It skips second gear for fuel economy
What a Ford thing to do...
When it comes to trucks Toyotas isn’t it. Ford rules that’s why it sells the most plenty more options and heavy duty’s . Euros just can’t make trucks
Toyota is Japanese......
Actually the Tundra is built in Texas. But yes, I know what you mean. There are more options for configuration with the American brands.
That’s abysmal mileage on the F150. My 2018 2.7 will get within a mph or two of that. Don’t care about torque, blah blah blah. When will makers get serious about a mid to full size that gets good mileage?
Most full size truck owners don’t care much about getting hood mpg
My brother gets amazing fuel economy out if his 2017 2.7 but my trailer is but my trailer is bigger than what the 2.7 is rated for so it's a 3.5 for me.
Ford always number one and the beast
Ford….looks better …..and probably cheaper…as far as dependability. That’s prob Toyota
It seems like Toyota didn't do their homework.
made on mejico vs made on USA
Another male car reviewer wearing shorts. Is this a trend or what?
Who cares what I wear. The video is about the vehicles not me.
@@MGReviewsBlog Good for you I think the commenter above wants you to review trucks being naked😂
One is a pile of shit that will fall apart right after warranty is done.
Did you own either of these two hybrid trucks?
That Tundra is ugly ! Sorry , RAM TRX all day long !
The TRX is a fun truck. I had a blast when i drove it a couple years ago. But it's not exactly comparable against these two...
Mpg 😂😂😂😂😂
The front end of the Toyota is so ugly!
I have a 2021 powerboost and love it. Good power good fuel economy 12,000 lbs of towing. Also have alot of good tech with over the air updates. Hate Toyota feels like a toy truck. Buy American 🇺🇲
RIGHT ON!
Tundra made in Texas with more American parts than F-150. I know...sad.
I totally agree ford is better truck all around been number one for 46 years for reason