asexual doesn't mean no sex, it just means no sexual attraction. There's sex repulsed asexuals but sex positive asexuals exist that don't care but will have it. @@seasnaill2589
The Doctor when they interact with themselves talk smack with each other and generally act like haters, but when push comes to shove they help out and are generally peaceable. Whereas while the master is all joy and complements and flirting, I feel like they usually just end up mostly fucking each other over and stabbing each other in the back. Only seen the one multi-master so my sample size is more limited here, but c’mon.
"Having established that the Doctor could change, that they could transmogrify into another aspect of this particular character, then there was no real limit to the number of Doctors, or the sex of the Doctor, or the race of the Doctor" *Patrick Troughton, The 2nd Doctor*
In “The Witch’s Familiar” it was actually “Time Lady, please. Some of us can afford the upgrade.” I think, if that was the episode with Davros and the Daleks
Honestly it just makes so much sense for the time lords to have genderfluid coding in their lore, especially with how 12 explains the way that their ideas and concepts differ from human society. Just goes to show how show writers can create these sorts of out-worldly concepts yet still have that human and grounded element to them which you can always relate back to in some way.
Also in terms of race, like that General in Heaven Sent, from a white man to a non white woman And the introduction of the Fugitive Doctor, the first non white female Doc And forthcoming, Ncuti Gatwa, the first non white actor to lead the series and chronologically, the second non white actor to play the Doc. 💙💙
In my headcanon, the Time Lord language (Common Gallifreyan) doesn't have any pronouns. The closest word they have is "it", and it's seen as disrespectful to not address anyone by their full name and title.
@@CyberController- "It" *is* a pronoun. Other pronouns include but are not limited to "I", "Thou"(this one doesn't really get used anymore), "You"(singular), "He", "She", "They"(singular), "We", "You"(plural) and "They"(plural). A language without pronouns would be something like this(oh, yeah, "this" in this particular case is a pronoun. The way this word is used in the following sentences however is not): "Person writing this comment does not use pronouns right now. Person writing this comment hopes that person reading this comment understands. Group of people person writing this comment is part of is going to talk to group of people that person reading this comment is part of and group of people that both person writing this comment and person reading this comment are not part of." It's definitely possible to have a language without pronouns, but it's pretty inconvenient.
@@Idkpleasejustletmechangeit Just a headcanon, the Time Lords seem like the kind of people who want you to say their full name and title before speaking to them.
@@CyberController-I fell like instead of “It”, the main pronoun would actually be “The”, as most time lords tend to refer to themselves with a “The” in front of their name (e.g. The Doctor, The Master, The Rani, The War Lord, The Monk, The Corsair, etc.)
You know it was probably eight because He's done everything once I wonder which other doctors could be contenders for Is getting married The first doctor yeah but he would have been wearing time lord clothing
I have this lil theory/Headcanon that The Doctor was probably trans during their other incarnation specifically the "first" one because that would explain some quotes like "I played Omega at the academy... Well the girl version of Omega", "it's been I while since I borrowed women's clothes" or Missy's "since he was a little girl" and why they keep unconsciously having masculine incarnation even when those incarnations are non binary like 10, they're so used to be masculine because of their first incarnation being trans that they're a bit lost when they're finally a woman again.
I was so excited when she was announced, the reveal was of a classy woman in a really nice gender neutral outfit that suited her. I also followed her on Instagram where she came across as a really nice person and had a beautiful dress sense. Then she got an outfit that riffed off Colin Bakers garish coat, and stories and writing that were just really dull. I don't blame Jodie at all, I blame Chibnall and his terrible show running. She did show flashes of brilliance, but for the most part wasn't written as well as Jodie or the fans deserved.
@@adelucas4824yeah, it's such a shame how bad the writing was for Whittaker's doctor, especially with the few episodes/specials that chibnall didn't touch, with proper, in-character dialogue that Jodie delivers perfectly.
and people are just seizing this as a chance to be really misogynistic and blame her (and the concept of a female doctor in general) when it would have been stranger for the doctor to have never been female on screen considering all of the times it was mentioned
I love how relaxed they wrote the other time lords during the Generals regeneration Companions are like "WHAT THE F*CK IS HAPPENING" other timelords "hey carl? yeah... generals doing the thing again... yeah, uh regeneration is the tech term right? Yeah well he's.... sorry she's doing it"
Constantly referring to yourself as the wrong gender because thats what you're used to and you don't often think about it is the most relatable shit and I love that Jodie kept doing that. Also 10 in the temple of sybl is iconic. They're all icons. I love them. The scene where she's "such a comedian" is my absolute favourite. AND OMG THAT COMMENT OF SHE MEANS THATCHER, I AM SCREAMING!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣☺
@@Williamfp like when you're in the closet about your gender for most people or everyone, when you're talking to someone who knows your actual pronouns or even just to yourself, you can refer to yourself the wrong way just out of habit because you normally have to be so careful to refer yourself that way infront of everyone else and have done for such a long time.
@@SpeedyOwlor when you're some kind of nonbinary or agender and forget your sex and get confused, when people gender you according to your assigned gender at birth. This is a perfect 13th Doctor "I am a woman?!" moment.
@@zolfirthedragon you know, apart from a couple of tennant books in primary school she was the first doctor I ever saw. My dad showed us the first few episodes, I was scared to death of the spiders one.
"but you still call yourself time LORDS" I think the Time Lords might be using a different definition of that term. It could be described as "someone or something having power, authority, or influence; a master or ruler.", so in this situation, it would mean having control or governance over the very concept of time with nothing to do with gender. Am a little surprised the Doctor got so flummoxed over that, but maybe he just didn't want to continue the conversation anymore with someone who wasn't getting it.
Maybe that's what that was referencing? Like, to me that conversation was "gender stuff" and then the "and yet you call yourself time lords (aka and yet you're still hung up with aristrocracy in some way)" Idk. Also a different way to interpret the line for sure.
@@coleslaw9130 I was about to say it could also be a mispronunciation, with the TARDIS' auto-translate, imagining an alternative scene with 12 coming back with "and you call yourselves hue man?"
yeah it's like Lord Beelzebub in Good Omens !! they are nonbinary if i'm not mistaken (demons, like angels, don't have a particular gender) but their title is "Lord of flies"
4:57 I love the idea that UNIT just has a massive file on the master and it says "He could be anyone" and then they had to update it to say "try not to elect a mass murderer more than once"
3:51 It’s good to know, assuming she isn’t referring to her to begin with, that River would still be in love with 13 if they had an episode together (I don’t think they do iirc)
Sadly no, unless she pops up in the BBC Centenary Special. Though Whittaker has already done audio, so it probably won't be long before she joins Big Finish.
@@user-ke1ed4ti9b for me, it means I feel like a girl somedays (rarely lol, but I sometimes are still fem), some days a boy, somedays an enby, and sometimes I have no clue what I am. For me I am just that, fluid, it changes, but sometimes it doesn’t switch for a few days
@@astra6031 i'm straight but i can still have some charm for woman but is very difficult. Until one of these days, OUT OF NOWHERE i felt a brutal enchantment in jodie! 💀🎠💎🦋i love something about her and i don't really know what it is.. Ksksks :D ❤
Fun fact! In a few of the Eighth Doctor's books - he blatantly denies being a cisgender man and that he "was not a man"! Also in some books also implied that he was more than friends with a couple of his male friends - including Alan Turing ;)
oh nice! there were a couple of third doctor clips too which i couldn't include where he says he's "not a chap" and implies he's not a man. it's cool that there's so much expanded media backing for it too!
Love this video! It's like when Thirteen was announced as a *gasp* woman and all those people said but they're Time Lords not Time Ladies, forgetting that Time Lord is a Species and we'd already met a Female Time Lord being Romana back in 1978 who was a Companion to the Fourth Doctor. Over the last twenty years or more the Big Finish Audios have had Time Lords of male and female, plus Time Lords who Don't have human appearance. Gender is fascinating ❤️
@@oneandonly3924 I think you mean Sex.... 😉 Gender is a social concept, that's the official definition of the UK government on their website. Centuries ago men wore the high heels (seriously) and this was accepted and Expected by the male gender... Today its switched to the female gender who is expected to wear the high heels. That's a very basic explanation, but gender is Not genitalia related, that's the sex of the person. Remember that blue was for girls at the beginning of the 20th century and pink for boys, now it's the other way around. Social constructs are fascinating to study 😊
I’m sad there’s nothing about that time River was on the Tardis three times at once and 11 mentioned that he would have worn a dress but he thought it didn’t really suit him
When I first saw trailers with Bill in, I wasn't sure I was going to like her. Then I saw her in her first episode and went, "Yeah, she's going to be just fine." I'm not talking about her gender or orientation, but the fact that she's very smart, and for all that she's a dinner lady, she can see things as clearly, if not clearer, than the Doctor himself.
Rewatching the series I noticed how much they've been foreshadowing this before we actually saw it the first time with Missy. It's nice to see how casual it is to time lords, and it's nice that there's a BBC IP that's actually affirming considering the transphobic fit the BBC has been going on. And now I really wanna see The Corsair appear some time!
Frances de la Tour was seriously considered to play the 8th Doctor after someone else were to have a brief stint as 7, but they nixed it as the show wasn't too stable at the time and they kinda had to play it save, I think the 14/15 situation is basically the same idea but actually done
I haven't seen anyone mention this one yet, but in S4E10, the one where 10 goes to Midnight, like 5 minutes in when the stewardess says "ladies, gentlemen, and variations thereupon" AND HE NODS AND SMIRKS A LITTLE I love little inclusions like that, this show is awesome
Anyone else find it annoying that the doctor doesn’t instantly recognise Missy, especially since he says in The Sound of Drums (to Martha and Jack) that “time lords always know”.
Maybe the odd circumstances of his new regeneration gave him a bit of a memory blur and he was too distracted at the time to pick up on the Time Lady signal?
The Master is a master of disguise. In the revival series alone the master hid as a human to avoid dying in the time war, became the Prime Minister without The Doctor noticing, became Rasputin and disguised himself as "Razor" and "Agent O." It's safe to say The Master figured out how to hide his identity from other time lords.
@@gonzbergtvbut what you doing in this video though ? By a gender fluid person? Ugh just coming to shit stir . So ornery. The rest of us are having an enjoyable time with this vid thanks.
I'm rewatching 13th since the beginning (I'm back at Spyfall 2) because I kinda stopped watching for while, and we just heard about Ncuti being the next Doctor, so I'm trying to catch up before she's gone. And I've always watched DW in english with subtitles, and then a episode of season 11 wasn't working on a couple sites (yes, I'm a pirate), so I watched it dubbed to Brazilian Portuguese, and had the most delightful surprise when I heard the companions uses she/her pronouns for her, but they call her "O Doutor" in the masculine form instead of "A Doutora" in the feminine form, because, you know, "The Doctor" is her name, and in portuguese always been O Doutor, that's their name. Always has been. And didn't change because her body did. And I think that's absolutely fantastic :D
"We're billion years before your petty human obsession with gender and its associated stereotypes." That's a very beautiful line I will now be using to throw at conservatives and transphobes
I feel the same way. I didn’t realize there was that much cannon. I honestly only watched Eccleston and a little bit of other episodes here and there. I only discovered my own gender fluidity when I decided to focus on me rather than putting my needs after other needs.
You know, there's a room on the Tardis built specifically for them to regenerate in. The Zero Room. Why, in universe, do they never use it? Obviously not every doctor has time but 11 certainly did. As did War! I wish I'd never learned about that room bc now when each Doctor regenerates I'll be stuck thinking about it.
Because the 5th Doctor’s post regeneration recovery was a special case. The 4th Doctor’s synapses were open when he regenerated, meaning that the 5th Doctor’s was left overwhelmed by his heightened senses, so he needed the zero room to cut himself off from interference.
The Tardis also refurbs itself every so often, so it's entirely possible that that room doesn't exist anymore or has been archived or moved somewhere the doctor can't find it.
@@hannahk1306 The Zero Room in the Doctor's TARDIS was jettisoned at end of _Castrovalva_ in order to create enough power to escape Event One. Although it has been reinstated and reappeared in various novels, comics and audios, it has never popped up again on TV.
It was never outright confirmed or denied in the Classic Era. Famously, Troughton said in an interview back in the 80s that there was no limit on what regeneration could do.
Personally I'd have cut straight from 13 saying "I've had an upgrade" to this one: DALEK: You are a Time Lord? MISSY: Time Lady, thank you. Some of us can afford the upgrade.
Wait what if the doctor regenerates into a baby? What would the companions do then? What if they’re alone when they’re regenerating? Or worse crashing?
Okay, if the Doctor _does_ regenerate into a child, that would be the most hillarious thing. It'll be like Number Five from Umbrella Academy but british
My minor understanding is that Time Lords tend to be adults from their point of view. You tend to regenerate into an adult (the Doctor has never been anything other than an adult and the Madter don't seem to have ever taken the appearance of a child when regenerated) or at least someone who can communicate with your surroundings if you include that a lot of time Lords seem a bit immature
@@JDM-is-my-name there has been a child master in the comics for the early stages of The Time War but they were still very much The Master you've come to expect mentally
@@stephenocalla3708 could that have been their first generation? If I remember correctly (and please be aware I may be misremembering) we also saw the Doctor as a child, but that was before the Time Lords went kind of extinct
@I_hate_me The reason the master was a child in the time war was because he'd run out of regeneration, and the time lords restarted him with a whole knew cycle. He kept his memories, but his form, a new first, was made to appear as a child, I think on purpose. I suspect it may be tradition on Gallifrey
@astra6031 Which is why I am puzzled as to why they've wasted a regeneration on a female Doctor when Romana is still around. I'm sure Lalla Ward would have come back to regenerate into another skin. She is a female Time Lady to those who are clueless. She IS the female "Doctor" in a way. And The Rani too. I cannot accept Missy as a regeneration of the Master when she behaved exactly like The Rani.
I mean Who now is more progressive and poorly written Take the second season of the 13th doctor, Chibnal could have done a better job and he made the scariest villain into meh.
Doctor has always been able to change between the two, but the writing is what makes it bad. I think if they could've done it without acting like it was some giant thing, and without shoving the message down the audience's throat nearly every episode, people would've taken it better
@@samuelmerkel2888 It is really obnoxious having people call people out as racist, sexist etc... for giving actual criticism because one way or another someone with green buzzed hair and smelly armpits is going to take offense. The Doctor has one way or another been a pacifist and the only time he's shown prejudgeice is the daleks and for obvious reasons. Freema Agyeman was the first black companion and her character had conflict with the 10th doctor yet found a way to overcome, she literally helped save the world by turning the doctor into a god. Or take Sarah Jane and how she had her own show, her companions were diverse in race and gender yet they all bounced off each other and weren't perfect characters with no flaws. I can go on with the diversity with WHo and why the whole thing with Jodie Whitaker and the progressive nature of the show are unrelated with the downfall. Its down to the writing and whenever its about sending a message or not is irrelivant if its executed poorly.
I know it can't be included bc it doesn't have dialogue/voice acting but the 13th Doctor actually met the Corsair when they were in a female regeneration in the comics
My favourite Doctor Who gender thing is in ‘Kinda’ from Classic Who and ‘Time in Office’ from the Big Finish audios. I just love it so much. I really should have seen that I was trans sooner…
I realised I should I have elaborated. In ‘Kinda’ there is a box that no man can touch without factory reseting his brain. The Doctor touches this box and suffers no ill effects. The elder says that the Doctor is either “not a man or is an idiot”
@@jam-the-hologram yes i love that line!! i wish classic who was easier to download because there were quite a few scenes i wanted to include. us trans people just get attracted to doctor who don't we lol
The bit is ‘Time in Office’ is admittedly much smaller. The story is set on Gallifrey where the Time Lords are making five make good on his promise to become the Lord President of Gallifrey. A (time lord) reporter is chatting to a time lady architect (i think??? it’s been awhile) and she accuses him of being sexiest and he refutes that by saying that his last couple regenerations were women. I like it because it was so casual
If I had a nickel for every time David Tennant played a gender fluid, non-human, functionally immoral character who got their heart broken by a blond... I'd have two nickels
If I had a nickel for every time David tenant played a genderless immortal character, I’d have 2 nickels.
...which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Both Crowley and The Doctor are also asexual lol
@@gay4sswhovian Didn't the Doctor have a trist with Queen Elizabeth? Am I remembering that right?
@@seasnaill2589And one of them's ginger
asexual doesn't mean no sex, it just means no sexual attraction. There's sex repulsed asexuals but sex positive asexuals exist that don't care but will have it. @@seasnaill2589
I love how the doctor always hates himself but the master just gets turned on
two types of people
The Doctor: Screw yourself
The Master: Screw myself
He's into punishment /j
@@astra6031 there are two wolves inside of him
The Doctor when they interact with themselves talk smack with each other and generally act like haters, but when push comes to shove they help out and are generally peaceable.
Whereas while the master is all joy and complements and flirting, I feel like they usually just end up mostly fucking each other over and stabbing each other in the back. Only seen the one multi-master so my sample size is more limited here, but c’mon.
love how 13 constantly forgets shes a woman and keeps having to correct herself
Same energy as 12 not being able to see age
I mean she has been male for 1000+ years and then she suddenly becomes female and it’s confusing.
@@SoUniqueUser I feel like that's the reason for 12 as well
Honestly that's me sometimes, I joke heavily about how I used to be a man
Well it’s been a while since the doctor ended up with a woman’s body so they get a pass on that Lmao 😂
"It's funny! Sixty minutes ago, I was this really brilliant woman." -14th Doctor
"That says Grand Mistress." - Shawn Temple
"Oh, catch up!" - 14th Doctor
@@aloperubyaspendaleloved all the gender jokes
“It’s just us girls” is so cute to me
Agreed
"Having established that the Doctor could change, that they could transmogrify into another aspect of this particular character, then there was no real limit to the number of Doctors, or the sex of the Doctor, or the race of the Doctor" *Patrick Troughton, The 2nd Doctor*
Well said 😁
Which is why they are my comfort character 💙💙😁
Oh my god thats a great quote!
@@Terrestriellie Troughton knew the character, probably better than any other actor to play the role.
@@CyberController- So that's why Hartnell trusts him back in 1966
@@CyberController- Troughton did loved to be the Doctor. He was with the series until the 6th or so, no? Making appeareces here and there
“Ah that’s alright it’s just us girls!” -10th doctor
I LOVE THAT
Ten was non binary, pan, asexual and neurodivergent I understand why they're everyone's favourite including mine now
@@gay4sswhovianYesss same.
The line "oh, am I a woman now?" is relatable on another level
Totally feel that lol, I experienced it quite literally
Way too relatable
same
yeahhhh
Constant mood
"We are far beyond your civilisation's petty obbsession with gender" "he was my man-crush"
In retrospect, the fact that the genderswap thing for me is one of the most appealing things about regeneration should've clued me in years ago
SAME
@@scurly0792 same same
Haha! Not transgender myself but I can understand the appeal.
@@Tmccreight25Gaming you might wanna look into that
@@tieflingcorpse9817 nah, I'm perfectly happy as myself.
When 13 says "I've had an upgrade" just to remind some people, Missy actually said the same in "The Witch's Familiar"
In “The Witch’s Familiar” it was actually “Time Lady, please. Some of us can afford the upgrade.” I think, if that was the episode with Davros and the Daleks
@Ashling Emberstone yeah I know, that's what I said (I know it's not said exactly the same way but it's the same thing)
@@13thDoctorJules cool! Sorry for being weird
@@ashlingemberstone3913 no, don't worry, you're not weird 😁
Honestly it just makes so much sense for the time lords to have genderfluid coding in their lore, especially with how 12 explains the way that their ideas and concepts differ from human society. Just goes to show how show writers can create these sorts of out-worldly concepts yet still have that human and grounded element to them which you can always relate back to in some way.
Also in terms of race, like that General in Heaven Sent, from a white man to a non white woman
And the introduction of the Fugitive Doctor, the first non white female Doc
And forthcoming, Ncuti Gatwa, the first non white actor to lead the series and chronologically, the second non white actor to play the Doc.
💙💙
In my headcanon, the Time Lord language (Common Gallifreyan) doesn't have any pronouns. The closest word they have is "it", and it's seen as disrespectful to not address anyone by their full name and title.
@@CyberController-
"It" *is* a pronoun. Other pronouns include but are not limited to "I", "Thou"(this one doesn't really get used anymore), "You"(singular), "He", "She", "They"(singular), "We", "You"(plural) and "They"(plural).
A language without pronouns would be something like this(oh, yeah, "this" in this particular case is a pronoun. The way this word is used in the following sentences however is not):
"Person writing this comment does not use pronouns right now. Person writing this comment hopes that person reading this comment understands. Group of people person writing this comment is part of is going to talk to group of people that person reading this comment is part of and group of people that both person writing this comment and person reading this comment are not part of."
It's definitely possible to have a language without pronouns, but it's pretty inconvenient.
@@Idkpleasejustletmechangeit Just a headcanon, the Time Lords seem like the kind of people who want you to say their full name and title before speaking to them.
@@CyberController-I fell like instead of “It”, the main pronoun would actually be “The”, as most time lords tend to refer to themselves with a “The” in front of their name (e.g. The Doctor, The Master, The Rani, The War Lord, The Monk, The Corsair, etc.)
"NO MAN MAY ENTER THE TEMPLE OF SYBIL-"
"Ah that's alright, just us gurrrlz"
Ten was iconic lmao
When Donna asks what kind of wedding dress has pockets, the way 10 awkwardly scratches his head makes it look like he's thinking "well MINE did..."
You know it was probably eight because He's done everything once
I wonder which other doctors could be contenders for Is getting married
The first doctor yeah but he would have been wearing time lord clothing
@@plantainsame2049 I can kinda picture 4 or 5 getting a wedding dress XD
awww! hahaha omg!!!
The doctor miss gendering her self Constantly is a adorable
2000 years using he/him, she's allowed a few slip ups.
she just like me fr
I have this lil theory/Headcanon that The Doctor was probably trans during their other incarnation specifically the "first" one because that would explain some quotes like "I played Omega at the academy... Well the girl version of Omega", "it's been I while since I borrowed women's clothes" or Missy's "since he was a little girl" and why they keep unconsciously having masculine incarnation even when those incarnations are non binary like 10, they're so used to be masculine because of their first incarnation being trans that they're a bit lost when they're finally a woman again.
3:05 gotta love Neil Gaiman’s writing and Matt’s godly delivery
snake tattoo, genderfluidity… reminds me of crowley lol
@@tal1iskand if I'm not mistaken, Michael sheen voiced House in that episode too~
wait wait back up the Good Omens Neil Gaiman ???
@@MoonyToons_4422 yep
oh my GOD this is so cool @@tal1isk
I really wish Jodie had gotten better circumstances. I just know she couldve shone even brighter if these last 3 series werent under Chibnall.
i feel like she will return like david tennant did
I was so excited when she was announced, the reveal was of a classy woman in a really nice gender neutral outfit that suited her. I also followed her on Instagram where she came across as a really nice person and had a beautiful dress sense. Then she got an outfit that riffed off Colin Bakers garish coat, and stories and writing that were just really dull. I don't blame Jodie at all, I blame Chibnall and his terrible show running. She did show flashes of brilliance, but for the most part wasn't written as well as Jodie or the fans deserved.
@@adelucas4824yeah, it's such a shame how bad the writing was for Whittaker's doctor, especially with the few episodes/specials that chibnall didn't touch, with proper, in-character dialogue that Jodie delivers perfectly.
and people are just seizing this as a chance to be really misogynistic and blame her (and the concept of a female doctor in general) when it would have been stranger for the doctor to have never been female on screen considering all of the times it was mentioned
She was a phenomenal actress in her own right, it doesn’t help that Chris botched every single story
"Are you a man or a woman ?"
"I'm a doctor."
You just abstracted "The Star Beast" perfectly
I love how relaxed they wrote the other time lords during the Generals regeneration
Companions are like "WHAT THE F*CK IS HAPPENING"
other timelords
"hey carl? yeah... generals doing the thing again... yeah, uh regeneration is the tech term right? Yeah well he's.... sorry she's doing it"
lmao yes they don't care about the gender swap they're more worried about not getting blown up in the middle of their regeneration
Why would they be shocked? They're all time lords
This comment shouldn't have made me laugh as much as it did💀💀💀 love this!
"You might want to get behind something. It's like a sneeze to a house of cards!"
"It's kinda tricky to be sexist when you could wake up with a pair of tits tomorrow morning"
LOL David saying "Just us girls" XDDDDD
Constantly referring to yourself as the wrong gender because thats what you're used to and you don't often think about it is the most relatable shit and I love that Jodie kept doing that. Also 10 in the temple of sybl is iconic. They're all icons. I love them.
The scene where she's "such a comedian" is my absolute favourite.
AND OMG THAT COMMENT OF SHE MEANS THATCHER, I AM SCREAMING!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣☺
10 in the temple of Sybil was just joking, it wasn’t some ‘I forgot what sex I am’ moment
@@obiwankenobi687 yeah I know, I said I appreciate that they kept making that joke with Jodie. Full stop. Also 10 in the temple of sybl is iconic.
Relatable...what
@@Williamfp like when you're in the closet about your gender for most people or everyone, when you're talking to someone who knows your actual pronouns or even just to yourself, you can refer to yourself the wrong way just out of habit because you normally have to be so careful to refer yourself that way infront of everyone else and have done for such a long time.
@@SpeedyOwlor when you're some kind of nonbinary or agender and forget your sex and get confused, when people gender you according to your assigned gender at birth. This is a perfect 13th Doctor "I am a woman?!" moment.
okay but jodie whittaker is absolutely gorgeous and one of my favourite doctors
along with david tennant and matt smith ofc
Same
Same
Crushing hard on Jodie and David 😆😆
It's such a shame that the writing let her down a lot, because where she got the chance to be she was fantastic
@@zolfirthedragon you know, apart from a couple of tennant books in primary school she was the first doctor I ever saw. My dad showed us the first few episodes, I was scared to death of the spiders one.
"but you still call yourself time LORDS"
I think the Time Lords might be using a different definition of that term. It could be described as "someone or something having power, authority, or influence; a master or ruler.", so in this situation, it would mean having control or governance over the very concept of time with nothing to do with gender.
Am a little surprised the Doctor got so flummoxed over that, but maybe he just didn't want to continue the conversation anymore with someone who wasn't getting it.
I always assumed it was an iffy translation from the Gallifreyan on the TADRDIS’ behalf for whatever Time Lord is in Gallifreyan
lord, laird and lady
Maybe that's what that was referencing?
Like, to me that conversation was "gender stuff" and then the "and yet you call yourself time lords (aka and yet you're still hung up with aristrocracy in some way)"
Idk. Also a different way to interpret the line for sure.
@@coleslaw9130 I was about to say it could also be a mispronunciation, with the TARDIS' auto-translate, imagining an alternative scene with 12 coming back with "and you call yourselves hue man?"
yeah it's like Lord Beelzebub in Good Omens !! they are nonbinary if i'm not mistaken (demons, like angels, don't have a particular gender) but their title is "Lord of flies"
14’s psychic paper not being caught up yet in The Star Beast was brilliant
4:57 I love the idea that UNIT just has a massive file on the master and it says "He could be anyone" and then they had to update it to say "try not to elect a mass murderer more than once"
“The marvellous apparating man! Lady… apparating lady!” me for the first 2 months after my egg cracked lmao
Me too!
3:51 It’s good to know, assuming she isn’t referring to her to begin with, that River would still be in love with 13 if they had an episode together (I don’t think they do iirc)
Sadly no, unless she pops up in the BBC Centenary Special. Though Whittaker has already done audio, so it probably won't be long before she joins Big Finish.
Didnt meet vastra either which i think is a shame
@@RamRam.720 ITS BEEN 7 YEARS BBC WE NEED THE GANG BACK!
@@Althalus2010 Hopefully she joins big finish. I've heard from multiple people that the show didn't do her skills justice.
@@SpartanS117C the show didnt do her any justice at all... the writing was the worst in the history
As genderfluid I wish to be timelord just for this lmao
Hey could I ask friend, how it feel's to be genderfluid?
Cause well.. it's intresting
@@user-ke1ed4ti9b for me, it means I feel like a girl somedays (rarely lol, but I sometimes are still fem), some days a boy, somedays an enby, and sometimes I have no clue what I am. For me I am just that, fluid, it changes, but sometimes it doesn’t switch for a few days
@@koya326 Oh, well thanks for answering mine question. Uh and eh.. nice to meet you!
@@user-ke1ed4ti9b nice to meet you too! Glad I could help, even if I wasn’t the original one you wanted the answer from
Jodie Whittaker in a suit was something i wasn't prepared for cause that is gender right there
a gay awakening for many women in the world i'm sure
@@astra6031lots of sapphic women I know had a crush over the Doctor already but when they also had one over 13 they got revelation lmao
Bloody hell how did you know 😅 @astra6031
@@astra6031 i'm straight but i can still have some charm for woman but is very difficult. Until one of these days, OUT OF NOWHERE i felt a brutal enchantment in jodie! 💀🎠💎🦋i love something about her and i don't really know what it is.. Ksksks :D ❤
Fun fact! In a few of the Eighth Doctor's books - he blatantly denies being a cisgender man and that he "was not a man"!
Also in some books also implied that he was more than friends with a couple of his male friends - including Alan Turing ;)
oh nice! there were a couple of third doctor clips too which i couldn't include where he says he's "not a chap" and implies he's not a man. it's cool that there's so much expanded media backing for it too!
"They we're roommates"
Theres BOOKS??WHAT WHERE
@@azcdtixs audio books by Big Finish
@@azcdtixs The Eighth Doctor Adventures-they can be a bit difficult to find.
Love this video! It's like when Thirteen was announced as a *gasp* woman and all those people said but they're Time Lords not Time Ladies, forgetting that Time Lord is a Species and we'd already met a Female Time Lord being Romana back in 1978 who was a Companion to the Fourth Doctor. Over the last twenty years or more the Big Finish Audios have had Time Lords of male and female, plus Time Lords who Don't have human appearance. Gender is fascinating ❤️
@@tommykirk3403 dont they have the loom thing? idk im not very informed about gallifreyan lore
Time Lords aren’t a species, it’s a rank in the hierarchy of Gallifreyan society
Not to mention Missy
Too bad humans can only be one gender from the day they’re born
@@oneandonly3924 I think you mean Sex.... 😉 Gender is a social concept, that's the official definition of the UK government on their website.
Centuries ago men wore the high heels (seriously) and this was accepted and Expected by the male gender... Today its switched to the female gender who is expected to wear the high heels. That's a very basic explanation, but gender is Not genitalia related, that's the sex of the person. Remember that blue was for girls at the beginning of the 20th century and pink for boys, now it's the other way around. Social constructs are fascinating to study 😊
I’m sad there’s nothing about that time River was on the Tardis three times at once and 11 mentioned that he would have worn a dress but he thought it didn’t really suit him
“B-b-but Time Lords can’t change gender!” the foolish people continue to scream, despite it being part of on-screen canon since 2011. Based video.
yeahh people be dumb. tyyy 🥺
Since 1999 if you consider Curse Of Fatal Death canon
Been cannon since 5th doctor from memory
I don't think you know what based is
Been in discussion since the end of Tom Baker's era so the early 80's.
When I first saw trailers with Bill in, I wasn't sure I was going to like her. Then I saw her in her first episode and went, "Yeah, she's going to be just fine." I'm not talking about her gender or orientation, but the fact that she's very smart, and for all that she's a dinner lady, she can see things as clearly, if not clearer, than the Doctor himself.
I was exactly the same way! Ended up loving the character snd rather disappointed with her shock method of departure.
Rewatching the series I noticed how much they've been foreshadowing this before we actually saw it the first time with Missy.
It's nice to see how casual it is to time lords, and it's nice that there's a BBC IP that's actually affirming considering the transphobic fit the BBC has been going on.
And now I really wanna see The Corsair appear some time!
I’m glad I’m not the only one who didn’t forget the Corsair 😂
Corsair was killed. We saw his arm used by the Aunt in that episode.
She's been in the Titan for 13.
Frances de la Tour was seriously considered to play the 8th Doctor after someone else were to have a brief stint as 7, but they nixed it as the show wasn't too stable at the time and they kinda had to play it save, I think the 14/15 situation is basically the same idea but actually done
@@emircan457 I mean, the doctor regrew a hand.
I haven't seen anyone mention this one yet, but in S4E10, the one where 10 goes to Midnight, like 5 minutes in when the stewardess says "ladies, gentlemen, and variations thereupon" AND HE NODS AND SMIRKS A LITTLE I love little inclusions like that, this show is awesome
YES THEIR LIL SMILE OF VALIDATION WAS SO SWEET
2:06 DAVID YOUR CROWLEY IS SHOWING
Anyone else find it annoying that the doctor doesn’t instantly recognise Missy, especially since he says in The Sound of Drums (to Martha and Jack) that “time lords always know”.
Maybe the odd circumstances of his new regeneration gave him a bit of a memory blur and he was too distracted at the time to pick up on the Time Lady signal?
The Master is a master of disguise. In the revival series alone the master hid as a human to avoid dying in the time war, became the Prime Minister without The Doctor noticing, became Rasputin and disguised himself as "Razor" and "Agent O." It's safe to say The Master figured out how to hide his identity from other time lords.
Recognition or not, it should have been obvious! I mean, Missy? Really?
The Doctor never recognised Anthony Ainley’s Master under his various disguises, so technically the Sound of Drums scene is the outlier here.
As a genderfluid person, I am very jealous
as a trans woman i feel this
@@gonzbergtv good for you, please get off my video
@@gonzbergtvbe straight and cis if you want but we don’t have to agree with your lifestyle choices
@@gonzbergtvbut what you doing in this video though ? By a gender fluid person?
Ugh just coming to shit stir . So ornery.
The rest of us are having an enjoyable time with this vid thanks.
@@gonzbergtvyou didn't get that no one choose too bad now stfu
"She means thatcher" BLESS I died laughing
well you can certainly add more to this video with the specials now lol
"Just us girls"😆
It's the UPGRADE for me 😩👌🏽
3:04 sums up the 11th doctor so well, he says some nonsense, waves his hands around, then shouts as something explodes
OH MY GOD ITS WIBBLEY WOBBLEY GENDY BENDY stuff
I'm rewatching 13th since the beginning (I'm back at Spyfall 2) because I kinda stopped watching for while, and we just heard about Ncuti being the next Doctor, so I'm trying to catch up before she's gone. And I've always watched DW in english with subtitles, and then a episode of season 11 wasn't working on a couple sites (yes, I'm a pirate), so I watched it dubbed to Brazilian Portuguese, and had the most delightful surprise when I heard the companions uses she/her pronouns for her, but they call her "O Doutor" in the masculine form instead of "A Doutora" in the feminine form, because, you know, "The Doctor" is her name, and in portuguese always been O Doutor, that's their name. Always has been. And didn't change because her body did.
And I think that's absolutely fantastic :D
thats brilliant! i love hearing stuff like that
me parece una falta de respeto de que no hayas mencionado la página pirata por la que ves doctor who pasa el link carnal
Some dubs change to a doutora some don't both are right because The doctor is the name but here get translated to male and female form
"We're billion years before your petty human obsession with gender and its associated stereotypes."
That's a very beautiful line I will now be using to throw at conservatives and transphobes
But they still called themselves Time Lords.
this made me so :)) i came out as genderfluid a while ago and i looooove doctor who cheers for this !!
aww i'm glad! i'm a trans woman so i this stuff is everything to me too, love that doctor who can make us feel seen!
@@astra6031 Hey'a, well.. khm strange to say but also nice to meet you both! Even if I'am not genderfluid or trans still think we could be friends ^^
@@User-mj6ox why would you need to be trans to be friends with a trans person..?
I feel the same way. I didn’t realize there was that much cannon. I honestly only watched Eccleston and a little bit of other episodes here and there. I only discovered my own gender fluidity when I decided to focus on me rather than putting my needs after other needs.
You know, there's a room on the Tardis built specifically for them to regenerate in. The Zero Room. Why, in universe, do they never use it? Obviously not every doctor has time but 11 certainly did. As did War! I wish I'd never learned about that room bc now when each Doctor regenerates I'll be stuck thinking about it.
Because the 5th Doctor’s post regeneration recovery was a special case. The 4th Doctor’s synapses were open when he regenerated, meaning that the 5th Doctor’s was left overwhelmed by his heightened senses, so he needed the zero room to cut himself off from interference.
The Tardis also refurbs itself every so often, so it's entirely possible that that room doesn't exist anymore or has been archived or moved somewhere the doctor can't find it.
@@hannahk1306 The Zero Room in the Doctor's TARDIS was jettisoned at end of _Castrovalva_ in order to create enough power to escape Event One.
Although it has been reinstated and reappeared in various novels, comics and audios, it has never popped up again on TV.
The Doctor wears a suit so well, no matter where they are on the gender spectrum.
I don’t think anything in canon ever said the Timelords COULDN’T change gender from Regeneration, so it’s always been possible :3
It was never outright confirmed or denied in the Classic Era. Famously, Troughton said in an interview back in the 80s that there was no limit on what regeneration could do.
2:04 I completely forgot about this one
Personally I'd have cut straight from 13 saying "I've had an upgrade" to this one:
DALEK: You are a Time Lord?
MISSY: Time Lady, thank you. Some of us can afford the upgrade.
"The Doctor..is a MAN"
Doctor: "I've had an upgrade, hi"
Me: PFFFFT LMAO you slay queen
Casual misogyny.
You can tell how rare being a women is for the doctor even if its a completely different personality
thanks for explaining the PM joke there. Being an Aussie, didn't know which UK PM was worst 😂😂
Me every time an anti-woke UA-camr kicks off about Donna’s daughter being trans:
All hail our trans-icon
Jodie Whittaker my beloved
she ✨💖
Constantly revolving 3 saying "I am no sort of chap!" in my brain
SAME I LOVE THAT LINE SO MUCH
yeah why does she have eyeshadow on she just came into existence geez
"she means thatcher"
lol
Wait what if the doctor regenerates into a baby? What would the companions do then? What if they’re alone when they’re regenerating? Or worse crashing?
Okay, if the Doctor _does_ regenerate into a child, that would be the most hillarious thing. It'll be like Number Five from Umbrella Academy but british
My minor understanding is that Time Lords tend to be adults from their point of view. You tend to regenerate into an adult (the Doctor has never been anything other than an adult and the Madter don't seem to have ever taken the appearance of a child when regenerated) or at least someone who can communicate with your surroundings if you include that a lot of time Lords seem a bit immature
@@JDM-is-my-name there has been a child master in the comics for the early stages of The Time War but they were still very much The Master you've come to expect mentally
@@stephenocalla3708 could that have been their first generation? If I remember correctly (and please be aware I may be misremembering) we also saw the Doctor as a child, but that was before the Time Lords went kind of extinct
@I_hate_me The reason the master was a child in the time war was because he'd run out of regeneration, and the time lords restarted him with a whole knew cycle. He kept his memories, but his form, a new first, was made to appear as a child, I think on purpose. I suspect it may be tradition on Gallifrey
my favourite clip is when missy says "Time lady thank you very much. Some of us can afford the upgrade."
THANK YOU FOR INTRODUCING ME TO THIS CHARACTER
you're most welcome, i hope you enjoy the best fictional character to ever exist
The Doctor is also ace btw (and some incarnation are ace-aro, some gay, some bi, some pan ect)
As a Genderfluid, I now wish I was a Timelord
Tbf I don't think it's so good cause to shapeshift you must fucking die 😂
Who's is here that the 10th is your favorite doctor?
I miss Romana.
me too, every single day
@astra6031 Which is why I am puzzled as to why they've wasted a regeneration on a female Doctor when Romana is still around. I'm sure Lalla Ward would have come back to regenerate into another skin. She is a female Time Lady to those who are clueless. She IS the female "Doctor" in a way. And The Rani too. I cannot accept Missy as a regeneration of the Master when she behaved exactly like The Rani.
@@OceanbornAngel That implies Romana only exists to be a female Doctor, which is in no way the case.
Makes sense since regeneration is a lottery which is why Matt Smith has to compensate
"she means thatcher"
my drink came out of my nose!
Now dear you need to made an upgrade version with half of The Star beast lmao 😂
The gag with Bill works the other way ;) , Timelords don't call themselves Timelords, humans do so it's on them ;) .
love 13 as a character ngl, wish the episodes were better to watch
i physically cringed when i saw this, i dont know how, but i did
Good now do it in silence
I love the Master flirting with another version of themself.
This video would probably be double its length if it was released after Ncuti's first series.
"Oooooooooh, she was a bad girl"
**Explodes**
damn do i needa watch doctor who now
Well, I like it!
"Yeah, shuttup." Doc 13 gettin called out by Bill gets me every time!
4:32 I thought the doctor could choose some parts like how he made 12 resemble the man they saved in Pompeii.
They can but it's a subconscious choice. It took a long time for Twelve to realize why he had that face.
@@fyraltari1889 ohhhhhh
That's the point. The "potion" is lemonade and dry ice. The Eighth Doctor drank it thinking he'd become a warrior, and so a warrior he became.
oh god please can the comment section not be awful
For real
For real
*WE👏STAN👏A👏FLUID👏TIME👏LORD*
2:30 this is actually so iconic wtf??
I wish the sub count and like count were swapped for you
my very homophobic dad is only now complaining about woke stuff even though the doctor has always been like this.
I mean Who now is more progressive and poorly written
Take the second season of the 13th doctor, Chibnal could have done a better job and he made the scariest villain into meh.
Doctor has always been able to change between the two, but the writing is what makes it bad. I think if they could've done it without acting like it was some giant thing, and without shoving the message down the audience's throat nearly every episode, people would've taken it better
@@samuelmerkel2888 It is really obnoxious having people call people out as racist, sexist etc... for giving actual criticism because one way or another someone with green buzzed hair and smelly armpits is going to take offense.
The Doctor has one way or another been a pacifist and the only time he's shown prejudgeice is the daleks and for obvious reasons. Freema Agyeman was the first black companion and her character had conflict with the 10th doctor yet found a way to overcome, she literally helped save the world by turning the doctor into a god.
Or take Sarah Jane and how she had her own show, her companions were diverse in race and gender yet they all bounced off each other and weren't perfect characters with no flaws.
I can go on with the diversity with WHo and why the whole thing with Jodie Whitaker and the progressive nature of the show are unrelated with the downfall. Its down to the writing and whenever its about sending a message or not is irrelivant if its executed poorly.
I know it can't be included bc it doesn't have dialogue/voice acting but the 13th Doctor actually met the Corsair when they were in a female regeneration in the comics
We can all agree that the time lords are something other than the gender binary
My favourite Doctor Who gender thing is in ‘Kinda’ from Classic Who and ‘Time in Office’ from the Big Finish audios. I just love it so much. I really should have seen that I was trans sooner…
I realised I should I have elaborated. In ‘Kinda’ there is a box that no man can touch without factory reseting his brain. The Doctor touches this box and suffers no ill effects. The elder says that the Doctor is either “not a man or is an idiot”
@@jam-the-hologram yes i love that line!! i wish classic who was easier to download because there were quite a few scenes i wanted to include. us trans people just get attracted to doctor who don't we lol
The bit is ‘Time in Office’ is admittedly much smaller. The story is set on Gallifrey where the Time Lords are making five make good on his promise to become the Lord President of Gallifrey. A (time lord) reporter is chatting to a time lady architect (i think??? it’s been awhile) and she accuses him of being sexiest and he refutes that by saying that his last couple regenerations were women. I like it because it was so casual
"Are you a boy or a girl?"
"I'm an idiot"
To paraphrase, my memory is imprecise:
"One thing you have to remember about me - I am definitely an idiot with a box."
3:31 nice voice crack there Matt
No love for Eleven being distracted by cake... ;)
0:43
Yaz, 3 years later: "Yeah it does ;)"
these gals GAY
I LOVE THEM SO MUCH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
I love Osgood. Such a fan!
Most of these are from Capaldi’s last few and 13’s first few.
And?
@@legendswarble2845 didnt say it’s bad just an observation
@@NightmareproductionsOFFICIAL Gotcha. My b
tag, you're it
Bill Potts "but you STILL call yourself TIME LORDS!" 12th "SHHHT we do NOT speak about THAT!"
i.e. 13 misgendering herself for 5 and a half minutes
she tries her best
The lady doctor is funny.
she's hilarious isn't she
The ‘Every time!’ Was hilarious
If I had a nickel for every time David Tennant played a gender fluid, non-human, functionally immoral character who got their heart broken by a blond... I'd have two nickels
You forgot asexual lmao
@@gay4sswhovian dang it, you’re right