Tehcnically speaking, *we* are Eris's brood, but I'd also love to see her take command of a proper Hive brood She would, perhaps, have to permanently ascend and shed her (mostly) human form for good, but having proper Lucent Hive *allies* would be cool as hell
@thearmory4922 honestly that only makes me more intrigued. Think about the reactions of all the characters, Drifter wanting to build a relationship but not being ready then suddenly he no longer gets the chance. It sounds sad and really messed up but it'd be a hell of a twist also I'd most likely cry if we lost Eris.
Hey, Byf, don’t be down on yourself for Dynasty, it was incredible and a masterpiece of lore analysis, storytelling, and cinematic rendition. Just because the game upended a lot of it does not mean putting in all that effort was in vain. In my opinion, you and the team did an amazing job and should be commended for you effort! Keep up the good work, I burned out on playing Destiny, but I’ll always show up for your lore content!
Yea this guy nailed it. That video quite clearly got me into what the lore was in destiny. You were it man and that video was the vex gateway to all things lore. Thank you. And I hope to see more books of sorrow and others.
Dynasty is very special regardless of the truth of the books of sorrow. it was an experience, all the fans gathering together to create something very special and you guys definitely did that justice. that year from your life created something special and shouldn't be sought after as wasted time. it's nothing less than a grand achievement which we're all appreciative to.
Double down on this; it was an absolutely phenomenal experience! I bet the Bois could find a way to make a sequel, where we come back to ponder upon recent events and see how the story has changed! It would definitely deepen the humanistic approach that we as people carry with us! That mistakes upon interpretation does happen, and that's fine. 😎
I get your reluctance to re-do Dynasty, but know this I personally enjoyed it even with its now clear flaws, it was structured so well with the lore at that time and really drew us in. I wouldn't think of it as a waste of time, think how Oryx had to create the stone tablets and use them as stepping stones just to even get an audience with the Witness..... These are your Tablets of Ruin, they mark where you have been and where you will go.
I don’t think he would recap the Books of Sorrow in a video. But, maybe in his video retelling the entire Dark vs Light saga. Byf stated plans for such a project in the future, in his 1,000,000 subscriber milestone video.
@@garrettviewegh9028One thing I hope he does is go back and revamp his older videos. I went to listen to his chronological playlist during work one day and his old videos are so *bad.* I can’t follow them at all and there’s so much missing. His current format is so much better and more engaging, and I’d love to use his channel as a way to stay caught up.
I think the whole false copyright strike thing that went down last year took the wind out of his sails for larger projects. By all rights, Dynasty should've been HUGE, but he was forced to re-issue the video long after it was supposed to release.
the funniest part is I think most Hive will reject her but if Oryx were around he'd happily welcome her as a convert to the true understanding of reality
side note, i hope eris stays as hive maybe permanently because dang it really adds so much more to her character, especially i want to see how would crow react as well to that since imaru said crow knows parts of the hive and well started the whole scorn situation
I think it is Wish Magic through The Clutch, Eris's Ahamkhara bone, that the Deck of Whispers manifests. It reeks of Wish Dragon ambiguity and while Ahamkara are not the same species as Worm Gods, the parallels are there.
I think you should definitely go back over the books of sorrow, especially the Ones Dredgen Yor Wrote. I think it’s important to note the steps Yor listed, detailed his transformation and one could even say the process of this metamorphosis is somewhat the same as What Disciples do when they go they go through their own process. This is a perfect way to detail the changes Eris went through and how When Shin tracked down Yor on Dwindlers Ridge he said “he looked different, weightless and effortlessly, but also Shin said he had a twisted Nightmarish Form that was mishappen, so Yor himself seemingly went through a physical transformation just as Eris did, just as his ship did.
Dynasty is AMAZING! With the knowledge that you had at the time pre Witch Queen, it's so well done! How you made it all make sense at the time and get a better understanding of Savathun's trickery is *chefs kiss* and the cinematics are incredible. You asked the other day about Crota raid lore, I would honestly rather see that than a synopsis of the books of sorrow, but I'm here to see and learn whatever you decide to share with us!
The 7th book of sorrow would be good enough content on its own, but I think it would also make a good segue into the broader topic of the weapon foundries of the City and their connections to the Darkness. Tex Mechanica is the main foundry of discussion because of The Last Word and Dead Man’s Tale with some room for The First Curse as well, but there are other suspicious foundries like Omolon and Cassoid where the guns they make show up in dark places, such as the Umbral weapons from Season of Arrivals (Omolon) or the Dead Messenger from Vox Obscura (Cassoid). Hakke also fits in there but really only in the context of Revision Zero. Regardless, Tex Mechanica is the most sus by far. Also, anyone else remember the Nemesis Star? They brought back Nadir weapons this season.
The Books of Sorrow make me think of a particular bit of dialogue from DS9: "Of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?" "My dear Doctor, they're all true." "Even the lies?" "Especially the lies."
Byf we'd all love those extra videos you mentioned to get caught up! I don't play much nowadays but I love to watch your videos to stay somewhat current on Lore:)
Byf my guy... you know the answer for sure. Noone here wants cliff notes from you. We want every line and every detail. The ultimate dream is to see you upload a 3000 hour 100 video series covering every word and clip of destiny history from day 1 until its over. Never enough content and never too long a video. Keep up the phenomenal fucking work brother.
I would like a breakdown of the books from your perspective. I think you give a great breakdown of what is going on in the lore that doesn't require watching a cinematic. I like being able to listen to you in the background and still get a clear picture of what the lore is about.
Would love a series on the updated books of sorrow! And would be happy to get it on whatever timeframe works best. As always, thank you for all you do Byf!
Please do the other books as well. I am a returning D1 player, stopped right before witch queen launch. Came back yesterday severely overwhelmed, and would love to not skip through the destiny playlist to find the books of sorrow/hive lore videos. Thanks Byf!
Yes PLEASE ! ! ! I'd love more content on the other books. I'm often confused about some of the things. Thanks for all your hard work Byf. It is truly appreciated.
I would love to see Dynasty updated and extended to include the new lore and facts that we've learned since its release. I discovered your channel towards the end of D1 during the hype leading up to D2's release. Some of the first videos I saw were your early dives into the origins of the Hive. I realized then that the story of Destiny was not only the story of light vs dark, but it's the story of the Hive... everything else is just side plots. The story of the Traveler and the story of the Hive are the primary focus.
Anyone else think it’s odd that Eris has gone through such a drastic, maybe permanent, transformation but still has a human form acting as the moon vendor? Unless it’s possible for her to enter and exit her new form at will, and be two places at once, it makes no sense. Replacing her with some token or artifact that one would use to commune with a hive god, say after you play through the first week missions, seems like the most straightforward way to address this
The change isn't permanent, but I get what you're saying. It was like Crow in the helm and on the tangled shore at the same time in different outfits. I agree some kind of communion artifact would be cool!
Would love to see a Witch Queen debunks the books of Sorrow video. It'd be hilarious if you could do it like an Adam Ruins Everything video but I know that's not your style. But having the record set straight with updated content and seeing how Eris Morn completes it would be an amazing video. Dynasty was and still is amazing. You should continue to be proud of that work
Recap of BoS would really help cement the lore, espicially considering what I assume is coming next season and into the future regarding Final Shape. Keep up the good work, forever appreciated!
Savathun's mind, and her throne, are one and the same. Every scream, every bullet, every choice, she remembers. Even if she isn't responsible for the eighth book, she will know it all when she res's.
A video with a whole animation on all the previous books of sorrow would be awesome! Maybe after this season though? Or towards the end of the season after learning a lot more about what’s going on with the hint of the possibility there is more to the story considering this season we’re having the 8th book of sorrow. Either way I’d love a recap on it as I’m starting to get back into the lore of destiny since Red War and Forsaken.
Dynasty was honestly amazing! There will always be the chance that new content comes out recontextualizes The Books of Sorrow and reveals new truths, I say let Dynasty stand as is and just clarify with further content. I believe it acts like a preservation of the experience of being only given imperfect information in the first place, which for the nature of Destiny's lore here is genuinely a major part of the experiences we've all been having for the past decade.
I would drop down and absolutely roll in any coverage you do on the Books of Sorrow, especially a reprisal now that we have more information. The whole story of the Hive Gods and their ascensions is just an amazing one, even entirely separate from Destiny's other lore as a whole and it's never, ever gotten old for me.. especially with your magic touch added to it.
Ibelive the more background the better, especially now that we know there could be so much more added to the lore because of what we have found out. I would love to see the gaurdian fighting side by side with Eris's brood!
I would vote for something like a single books of sorrow catch up video. It doesn’t need to be too intense, just enough that rewatching dynasty isn’t required of me lol. I’m fine with a short form summary and then in your planned series you can make references and clarifications on stuff you didn’t go over again as you feel you need to.
Maybe you could do a video per book and do a general overview of the book while highlighting the new info from TWQ. You can even throw in the footage from Dynasty as the background for these videos. You could probably do this after covering most of the new lore since there will probably be a mid-season lull for lore.
I feel like a revisit to past books of sorrow would benefit many players because it gets players caught up and on the same page regarding the lore while also allowing clarification of truths and lies and new revelations to be brought up for those that know of the books of sorrow already from past videos.
Dynasty truly was a passion project and a work of art in every aspect! Regardless of any flaws. Whenever something crazy happens in the lore, I think to myself, “I wonder what Byf would say about this?” Lol
Love the content lore dad. Watching these videos make me feel stupidly happy/calm for some reason. I'll watch literally anything you put out. I could listen to you explain how to open a can of beans and be at peace.😂
I personally love the Hive and deeply fascinated with their story and lore. I would honestly love to hear the up to date depictions of the first five books of sorrow but this season introduces some new key cryptic information that I also would absolutely love to hear broken down
Looking forward to this series. I don't think you need to go over all the other Books of Sorrow, just whatever is directly relevant to the episode you're working on.
Would love a quick recap to give context to this new book of sorrows, it would be much appreciated. But we also understand it takes time to create and plan all these videos you may potentially make, so if you have any old videos please do let us know! ❤️
@@raven-0621 I intend to watch it but I may not have the time to finish it. I don’t ask for a full in deep dive detailed recap, just a 10-20 min video if it’s possible. I will not complain if not but it was just a mere suggestion.
I would not mind a recap of the older books of sorrow after the new one is done, also, just as a suggestion, at the end of the next season leading into the final shape, maybe switch from "I will see you starside" "I will see you, In the pale heart"
would love to hear more about the others but I can't help but imagine that the understanding might change even further as we go further into this season
@mynameisbyf I would Love a breakdown of the previous Books as I have been unable to really keep up with all the lore drops recently and how much of it I missed in D1
Listening to you explain and talk, is more then enough for me. I am very curious about the 8th book of sorrow. I cant wait, but i have to.... Lol regardless itll be worth it
if you can do both, I'd like more info on the other stuff too, but I also enjoy the new season stuff, so I'll leave it to your call Byf, I trust in your judgement :D
current stuff first, is just in case it hasn't been fully written yet don't let your Vengeance consume you Eris morn I give you times to help with keeping the peace not making it worse remember that I'm the one being whispered occasionally who Hope Sabbath in her come to our senses realizing in The Fault in the promise they were first.
I would like to see a complete retelling of the previous 7 books of sorrow with what we know now. I would wait though until the end of the season if anything comes to light as the 8th book forms itself.
A modern reinterpretation of the Books of Sorrow would be great, but that also sounds like a huge undertaking. Looking forward to your seasonal coverage regardless.
I’ve always wondered why we never used the sword logic, given that the users of this logic have gotten immensely strong. It’s pretty cool to see us using it noe
Technically, when we play Blind Well, we're using both our Light powers and the Sword Logic to empower it. Sword Logic isn't something you can opt in or out of participating in, it's just a matter of whether and how you choose to use that accumulated power. We defeated Oryx, and then left his space empty. This created a massive power imbalance, and it's why Xivu is so furious with us. (If we had taken his place, she would actually probably be cool with that.) There have also been some cases where we HAVE used Sword Logic to empower ourselves in specific missions, like entering the ascendant portal on the Dreadnaught or literally any mission or strike involving burdens of tribute. But we don't NEED Sword Logic to empower us because we have the Light, so we've basically been little gremlins of chaos running around and making a mess of the Hive. But now that we have our own Hive god to channel that power and tribute to ... hoo boy.
It just seems like Eris was waiting on the perfect time. With Savuthan and Oryx out the picture, and her new knowledge of the Witness and his disciples her time has finally came to take this approach.
Yeah. More please! Also many books please! I am a bit of a hive nut. In game, I like to refer to myself as Reaver the shattered (the last disciple of Toland, the shattered) it’s not actually my user name but me and my friends joke about it quite a bit lol
I must say, we have over time been making allies in more and more places, starting with the awoken and fallen, then to the cabal. The only 2 factions that i wasnt able to see us allying was the vex and hive. However bungie somehow managed to make the hive work and make it extremely interesting too, love what they did and cant wait to see more.
In regards to the Deck of Whispers, they could just be a physical representation of Eris's subconscious and knowledge, or something build by the Force of Darkness that feeds/enables her Vengence. It is reasonable that they are not written by anyone and just simply are, written with knowledge pulled from the Veil, the storage bank of all conscious thought the universe ever had and might have.
Okay, maybe I'm just a bad lore person, but I fucking *LOVED* Dynasty, and I wish you wouldn't be so hard on yourself about it. It was *GOOD* , and just because you were missing some key information that wasn't even *OUT* yet, doesn't invalidate the whole video or make it bad content. You were working on what information you had and thought you understood. I know you hate being inaccurate in your lore videos, but Dynasty was neat as hell, and you should be proud of it, even if it got some things wrong. Also, yes, more lore please. My AuDHD brain needs it.😂
If you want to cover those previous entries and dive into how our understanding of them has changed over time as more information has become available we would absolutely watch the hell out of it, but I think if that’s too much work we would be perfectly fine catching up on the new stuff :)
You can tell how excited Byf is with the lore this season
hes not alone :DDD
weve been starved for narative and lore all year. its about time
I low key hope to see Eris take over a brood of her own. To use the Hive, to destroy the Hive.
Eris becoming the leader of a brood of lucent hive would be sick.
The sword logic is self destructive.
Tehcnically speaking, *we* are Eris's brood, but I'd also love to see her take command of a proper Hive brood
She would, perhaps, have to permanently ascend and shed her (mostly) human form for good, but having proper Lucent Hive *allies* would be cool as hell
Does anyone not remeber the dark future about Eris?😊
@thearmory4922 honestly that only makes me more intrigued. Think about the reactions of all the characters, Drifter wanting to build a relationship but not being ready then suddenly he no longer gets the chance. It sounds sad and really messed up but it'd be a hell of a twist also I'd most likely cry if we lost Eris.
Hey, Byf, don’t be down on yourself for Dynasty, it was incredible and a masterpiece of lore analysis, storytelling, and cinematic rendition. Just because the game upended a lot of it does not mean putting in all that effort was in vain. In my opinion, you and the team did an amazing job and should be commended for you effort! Keep up the good work, I burned out on playing Destiny, but I’ll always show up for your lore content!
THE UPENDED.
Yea this guy nailed it. That video quite clearly got me into what the lore was in destiny. You were it man and that video was the vex gateway to all things lore. Thank you. And I hope to see more books of sorrow and others.
Dynasty is very special regardless of the truth of the books of sorrow. it was an experience, all the fans gathering together to create something very special and you guys definitely did that justice. that year from your life created something special and shouldn't be sought after as wasted time. it's nothing less than a grand achievement which we're all appreciative to.
Double down on this; it was an absolutely phenomenal experience! I bet the Bois could find a way to make a sequel, where we come back to ponder upon recent events and see how the story has changed! It would definitely deepen the humanistic approach that we as people carry with us! That mistakes upon interpretation does happen, and that's fine. 😎
I get your reluctance to re-do Dynasty, but know this I personally enjoyed it even with its now clear flaws, it was structured so well with the lore at that time and really drew us in. I wouldn't think of it as a waste of time, think how Oryx had to create the stone tablets and use them as stepping stones just to even get an audience with the Witness..... These are your Tablets of Ruin, they mark where you have been and where you will go.
I don’t think he would recap the Books of Sorrow in a video. But, maybe in his video retelling the entire Dark vs Light saga. Byf stated plans for such a project in the future, in his 1,000,000 subscriber milestone video.
@@garrettviewegh9028One thing I hope he does is go back and revamp his older videos. I went to listen to his chronological playlist during work one day and his old videos are so *bad.* I can’t follow them at all and there’s so much missing. His current format is so much better and more engaging, and I’d love to use his channel as a way to stay caught up.
@@garrettviewegh9028That is perfectly fine with me, and I'm glad you told me about that I must have missed that segment in the 1M vid.
I think the whole false copyright strike thing that went down last year took the wind out of his sails for larger projects. By all rights, Dynasty should've been HUGE, but he was forced to re-issue the video long after it was supposed to release.
Can I just say, Eris becoming a god of a foreign culture and writing their next gospel is just sooo metal!!!
the funniest part is I think most Hive will reject her but if Oryx were around he'd happily welcome her as a convert to the true understanding of reality
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx Exactly! It’s so, for lack of a better term, gangster
Also low key colonist 🙃
@@aphrailember let’s not compare the Hive to Native Americans
It’s really not. It’s mediocre at best
side note, i hope eris stays as hive maybe permanently because dang it really adds so much more to her character, especially i want to see how would crow react as well to that since imaru said crow knows parts of the hive and well started the whole scorn situation
Honestly, I kinda hope Eris doesn't remain Hive permanently.
@@andy.jehoshaphat well you might get your wish
remain a hive....don't remain a hive....frankly i just hope she doesn't die at the end
Pretty sure there's some messed up whit going to happen with her. Maybe not this season or even DLC, but eventually.
@@chipsawdust5816 perhaps
I think it is Wish Magic through The Clutch, Eris's Ahamkhara bone, that the Deck of Whispers manifests. It reeks of Wish Dragon ambiguity and while Ahamkara are not the same species as Worm Gods, the parallels are there.
Ahsa is like an Eevee, her species can turn into different forms
Amongst those forms is an Ahamkara
The hive lore for me is my favourite in the game. To listen to an updated books of sorrow would be amazing.
I think you should definitely go back over the books of sorrow, especially the Ones Dredgen Yor Wrote. I think it’s important to note the steps Yor listed, detailed his transformation and one could even say the process of this metamorphosis is somewhat the same as What Disciples do when they go they go through their own process.
This is a perfect way to detail the changes Eris went through and how When Shin tracked down Yor on Dwindlers Ridge he said “he looked different, weightless and effortlessly, but also Shin said he had a twisted Nightmarish Form that was mishappen, so Yor himself seemingly went through a physical transformation just as Eris did, just as his ship did.
Dynasty is AMAZING! With the knowledge that you had at the time pre Witch Queen, it's so well done! How you made it all make sense at the time and get a better understanding of Savathun's trickery is *chefs kiss* and the cinematics are incredible. You asked the other day about Crota raid lore, I would honestly rather see that than a synopsis of the books of sorrow, but I'm here to see and learn whatever you decide to share with us!
Thank you for the time you put into these excellent story explanations
I'd never say "no" to more Byf videos, and I'd be happy to hear a recap of the previous Books of Sorrow. It's been a while.
The hive had some of the best lore in the game
THIS IS AMAZING
Bruh, Sâvathun decided that even death couldn’t stop her from carrying or somehow influencing the game’s lore and story .
The 7th book of sorrow would be good enough content on its own, but I think it would also make a good segue into the broader topic of the weapon foundries of the City and their connections to the Darkness. Tex Mechanica is the main foundry of discussion because of The Last Word and Dead Man’s Tale with some room for The First Curse as well, but there are other suspicious foundries like Omolon and Cassoid where the guns they make show up in dark places, such as the Umbral weapons from Season of Arrivals (Omolon) or the Dead Messenger from Vox Obscura (Cassoid). Hakke also fits in there but really only in the context of Revision Zero. Regardless, Tex Mechanica is the most sus by far.
Also, anyone else remember the Nemesis Star? They brought back Nadir weapons this season.
Don't forget, Cassoid are the people who made Telesto
Did Cassoid make pocket infinity too?
@pyrosfolly5698
Cassoid: For all your reality ripping weapon needs!
@@inoli3164 idk but that would be wild.
@@pyrosfolly5698 So that explains the “experimental submunitions” from the Wild Card trait. Makes sense.
The Books of Sorrow make me think of a particular bit of dialogue from DS9:
"Of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?"
"My dear Doctor, they're all true."
"Even the lies?"
"Especially the lies."
Love to see an expansion to a lore bit that was started years ago, really cool
Yall remember when our ghost said they would never serve the Hive at the end of witch queen? This season would say otherwise.
I mean….. your not wrong there
Been scouring Reddit for info on this after reading sororicide - thank you for yielding the info amd insights that I couldn't quite reach!!
Byf we'd all love those extra videos you mentioned to get caught up! I don't play much nowadays but I love to watch your videos to stay somewhat current on Lore:)
Byf my guy... you know the answer for sure. Noone here wants cliff notes from you. We want every line and every detail. The ultimate dream is to see you upload a 3000 hour 100 video series covering every word and clip of destiny history from day 1 until its over. Never enough content and never too long a video. Keep up the phenomenal fucking work brother.
I would like a breakdown of the books from your perspective. I think you give a great breakdown of what is going on in the lore that doesn't require watching a cinematic. I like being able to listen to you in the background and still get a clear picture of what the lore is about.
Would love a series on the updated books of sorrow! And would be happy to get it on whatever timeframe works best. As always, thank you for all you do Byf!
Please do the other books as well. I am a returning D1 player, stopped right before witch queen launch. Came back yesterday severely overwhelmed, and would love to not skip through the destiny playlist to find the books of sorrow/hive lore videos. Thanks Byf!
Yes PLEASE ! ! ! I'd love more content on the other books. I'm often confused about some of the things. Thanks for all your hard work Byf. It is truly appreciated.
I would love to see Dynasty updated and extended to include the new lore and facts that we've learned since its release.
I discovered your channel towards the end of D1 during the hype leading up to D2's release. Some of the first videos I saw were your early dives into the origins of the Hive. I realized then that the story of Destiny was not only the story of light vs dark, but it's the story of the Hive... everything else is just side plots. The story of the Traveler and the story of the Hive are the primary focus.
I look forward to a new Byf lore dive coming out every time. I would love to see a retelling of the first 5 books, same as I loved watching Dynasty.
Yes would love the video's of the full books of sorrow from start to finish with all the new updates in it please, great video as always, keep it up
I think having a recap of the other books would help ALOT, especially after all the info we learned from Witch Queen.
More Byf content is always the correct answer! A BoS recap with the WQ edits we know now of would be awesome!
This is completely unrelated to the story, but every time I hear you talk, I think of how cool it would be for you to voice a character in Destiny
Anyone else think it’s odd that Eris has gone through such a drastic, maybe permanent, transformation but still has a human form acting as the moon vendor?
Unless it’s possible for her to enter and exit her new form at will, and be two places at once, it makes no sense. Replacing her with some token or artifact that one would use to commune with a hive god, say after you play through the first week missions, seems like the most straightforward way to address this
The change isn't permanent, but I get what you're saying. It was like Crow in the helm and on the tangled shore at the same time in different outfits. I agree some kind of communion artifact would be cool!
"Give us another $100 and quit your bitching!" Bungie, definitely.
Thank you for your amazing vids , Byf . I for one would love to hear a recap of the other books of the Hive Lore . Thank you .
Would love to see a Witch Queen debunks the books of Sorrow video. It'd be hilarious if you could do it like an Adam Ruins Everything video but I know that's not your style. But having the record set straight with updated content and seeing how Eris Morn completes it would be an amazing video. Dynasty was and still is amazing. You should continue to be proud of that work
Recap of BoS would really help cement the lore, espicially considering what I assume is coming next season and into the future regarding Final Shape. Keep up the good work, forever appreciated!
“And low he wept as strand and stasis were visited upon by the god of nerf.”
I would love to see an updated perspective video on the books, there's so much we've had clarity on that we didn't before.
Savathun's mind, and her throne, are one and the same. Every scream, every bullet, every choice, she remembers. Even if she isn't responsible for the eighth book, she will know it all when she res's.
Thank you so much, byf. Tarot is meant as an introspective tool. It’s a gift that our brains do so well, when given a story to worm with
A video with a whole animation on all the previous books of sorrow would be awesome! Maybe after this season though? Or towards the end of the season after learning a lot more about what’s going on with the hint of the possibility there is more to the story considering this season we’re having the 8th book of sorrow. Either way I’d love a recap on it as I’m starting to get back into the lore of destiny since Red War and Forsaken.
Dynasty was a great piece of work. Just wanted to say y'all did great
Would love to hear more about the other books of sorrow. Started Destiny this february so I missed pretty much and I love your videos.
Dynasty was honestly amazing! There will always be the chance that new content comes out recontextualizes The Books of Sorrow and reveals new truths, I say let Dynasty stand as is and just clarify with further content. I believe it acts like a preservation of the experience of being only given imperfect information in the first place, which for the nature of Destiny's lore here is genuinely a major part of the experiences we've all been having for the past decade.
I loved dynasty! Your team did such an amazing job! Thanks for all y'all's hard work and continuing lore content!
loving the lore in this season!
I would drop down and absolutely roll in any coverage you do on the Books of Sorrow, especially a reprisal now that we have more information. The whole story of the Hive Gods and their ascensions is just an amazing one, even entirely separate from Destiny's other lore as a whole and it's never, ever gotten old for me.. especially with your magic touch added to it.
Ibelive the more background the better, especially now that we know there could be so much more added to the lore because of what we have found out. I would love to see the gaurdian fighting side by side with Eris's brood!
I would vote for something like a single books of sorrow catch up video. It doesn’t need to be too intense, just enough that rewatching dynasty isn’t required of me lol. I’m fine with a short form summary and then in your planned series you can make references and clarifications on stuff you didn’t go over again as you feel you need to.
Dynasty was great. I watch/listen to it quite often to go to sleep very relaxing
i'd be up for it, especially since i enjoy the lore in general, especially as you cover it
Maybe you could do a video per book and do a general overview of the book while highlighting the new info from TWQ. You can even throw in the footage from Dynasty as the background for these videos. You could probably do this after covering most of the new lore since there will probably be a mid-season lull for lore.
I feel like a revisit to past books of sorrow would benefit many players because it gets players caught up and on the same page regarding the lore while also allowing clarification of truths and lies and new revelations to be brought up for those that know of the books of sorrow already from past videos.
I'd love to see you cover the old books. I figured you already had back in D1 so I was about to go searching
Mayhap eris should write her own hive book, something like “the books of remembrance” or “the book of vengeance”, that would be cool
Book of Vengeful Remembrance 👍
YES please do a video series on the old book of sorrows!
Now we need lofi eris morn writing the new book of sorrow
Dynasty truly was a passion project and a work of art in every aspect! Regardless of any flaws.
Whenever something crazy happens in the lore, I think to myself, “I wonder what Byf would say about this?” Lol
Love the content lore dad. Watching these videos make me feel stupidly happy/calm for some reason. I'll watch literally anything you put out. I could listen to you explain how to open a can of beans and be at peace.😂
Yes you are my source for lore. And would love a refresher
I personally love the Hive and deeply fascinated with their story and lore. I would honestly love to hear the up to date depictions of the first five books of sorrow but this season introduces some new key cryptic information that I also would absolutely love to hear broken down
Would definitely love to hear a fresh go over of all the books of sorrow, bit confusing discerning the truth from lies and cannon from retcon.
Just go read them yourself. You incapable of reading lore without some European reading for you
I would very much appreciate you delving into the Books of Sorrow again.
Eris is easily one of the best characters in the game period. I desperately hope they don't decide to off her for story reasons
Ok, but how cool would it be to bring her back, having embodied vengeance by killing her killer?
Looking forward to this series. I don't think you need to go over all the other Books of Sorrow, just whatever is directly relevant to the episode you're working on.
Yes please, on the compilation. I'm giddy at the idea of seeing an accurate story of the hive.
Would love a quick recap to give context to this new book of sorrows, it would be much appreciated. But we also understand it takes time to create and plan all these videos you may potentially make, so if you have any old videos please do let us know! ❤️
watch Dynasty
@@raven-0621 I intend to watch it but I may not have the time to finish it. I don’t ask for a full in deep dive detailed recap, just a 10-20 min video if it’s possible. I will not complain if not but it was just a mere suggestion.
YEA PLEASE. I would love for you to recap all of the books of sorrow!
I always love a good recap and I believe that the Book of Sorrows would be a great addition
I would not mind a recap of the older books of sorrow after the new one is done, also, just as a suggestion, at the end of the next season leading into the final shape, maybe switch from "I will see you starside" "I will see you, In the pale heart"
I love getting so many videos from byf
would love to hear more about the others but I can't help but imagine that the understanding might change even further as we go further into this season
I forgot about Dynasty and how good it was. Totally rewatching that later.
Dear Byf
More hive lore is always a good thing
Please give me more hive lore.
I loved Dynasty and hope you do something similar in the future!
@mynameisbyf I would Love a breakdown of the previous Books as I have been unable to really keep up with all the lore drops recently and how much of it I missed in D1
Dynasty was amazing and should be commended. AlsobI would appreciate a book of Sorrows update video
Listening to you explain and talk, is more then enough for me. I am very curious about the 8th book of sorrow. I cant wait, but i have to.... Lol regardless itll be worth it
I would love an refresher/explanation of all the Books of Sorrow
Hey Byf I would love to see a updated standing of the books.
I would love to see a series on the updated knowledge on the books of sorrow. ❤
Yes please cover the other books again! Maybe draw a new perspectives from the past couple seasons, and see if we have more insight as of now?
if you can do both, I'd like more info on the other stuff too, but I also enjoy the new season stuff, so I'll leave it to your call Byf, I trust in your judgement :D
I would love LoveLOVE an updated video on the book of sorrows covering all the lies we have uncovered to this point
current stuff first, is just in case it hasn't been fully written yet don't let your Vengeance consume you Eris morn I give you times to help with keeping the peace not making it worse remember that I'm the one being whispered occasionally who Hope Sabbath in her come to our senses realizing in The Fault in the promise they were first.
I would like to see a complete retelling of the previous 7 books of sorrow with what we know now. I would wait though until the end of the season if anything comes to light as the 8th book forms itself.
A modern reinterpretation of the Books of Sorrow would be great, but that also sounds like a huge undertaking. Looking forward to your seasonal coverage regardless.
I’ve always wondered why we never used the sword logic, given that the users of this logic have gotten immensely strong. It’s pretty cool to see us using it noe
Technically, when we play Blind Well, we're using both our Light powers and the Sword Logic to empower it. Sword Logic isn't something you can opt in or out of participating in, it's just a matter of whether and how you choose to use that accumulated power.
We defeated Oryx, and then left his space empty. This created a massive power imbalance, and it's why Xivu is so furious with us. (If we had taken his place, she would actually probably be cool with that.) There have also been some cases where we HAVE used Sword Logic to empower ourselves in specific missions, like entering the ascendant portal on the Dreadnaught or literally any mission or strike involving burdens of tribute. But we don't NEED Sword Logic to empower us because we have the Light, so we've basically been little gremlins of chaos running around and making a mess of the Hive. But now that we have our own Hive god to channel that power and tribute to ... hoo boy.
Getting major Kerrigan vibes from Eris this season. Would be sick if she pulled a queen of blades on us and used the hive against the witness
Nancy Kerrigan?
@@chipsawdust5816starcraft kerrigan
@@Kendurance Oh OK so not the knee-crackin' skater :)
It just seems like Eris was waiting on the perfect time. With Savuthan and Oryx out the picture, and her new knowledge of the Witness and his disciples her time has finally came to take this approach.
Yeah. More please! Also many books please! I am a bit of a hive nut. In game, I like to refer to myself as Reaver the shattered (the last disciple of Toland, the shattered) it’s not actually my user name but me and my friends joke about it quite a bit lol
I missed many years of lore between Beyond Light and Lightfall. A catch up of the other Books of Sorrow would be great!
Then go read it
Like the Last Word and Thorn continuation back in forsaken, we'll need a recap with the 6th and 7th book.
I must say, we have over time been making allies in more and more places, starting with the awoken and fallen, then to the cabal. The only 2 factions that i wasnt able to see us allying was the vex and hive. However bungie somehow managed to make the hive work and make it extremely interesting too, love what they did and cant wait to see more.
@MynameisByf, YES please cover the other books as well
Hell yeah. I'd love to hear more about all the books of sorrow.
In regards to the Deck of Whispers, they could just be a physical representation of Eris's subconscious and knowledge, or something build by the Force of Darkness that feeds/enables her Vengence. It is reasonable that they are not written by anyone and just simply are, written with knowledge pulled from the Veil, the storage bank of all conscious thought the universe ever had and might have.
Okay, maybe I'm just a bad lore person, but I fucking *LOVED* Dynasty, and I wish you wouldn't be so hard on yourself about it. It was *GOOD* , and just because you were missing some key information that wasn't even *OUT* yet, doesn't invalidate the whole video or make it bad content. You were working on what information you had and thought you understood. I know you hate being inaccurate in your lore videos, but Dynasty was neat as hell, and you should be proud of it, even if it got some things wrong.
Also, yes, more lore please. My AuDHD brain needs it.😂
We have faith in you and your choices Byf!😊
If you want to cover those previous entries and dive into how our understanding of them has changed over time as more information has become available we would absolutely watch the hell out of it, but I think if that’s too much work we would be perfectly fine catching up on the new stuff :)