I think what I have realized about their arguing dynamic is that there was no way he could ever calm her down. If he walks away or isolates, she escalates. If he stays and engages in the argument with the hopes of coming to a resolution, she escalates. This was a no win for him in every battle.
I suspect that even if he were to just flat out agree with her everytime, she wouldn't calm down (and he often does try to agree with her! Calling himself a monster, co-opting the language of her abuse). You're right, there was no winning there, no way to diffuse. Its almost like she doesn't even want a resolution. The point is the chaos and the fury-thats what shes going for. Part of her wants it to get to the point where people are shrieking and losing it, and there's a satisfaction knowing that she's the orchestrator. Of course, this is just my interpretation based on my own experience of people who operate in this way. Whether Amber is this kind of person, I guess ill have to wait and see when she testifies.
@@meghanpoplacean2216 I think what she wanted was compliance....for him to meet and agree with her perspective. I take note of her unwillingness to respect his space and a desire for a time to reflect and cool off so that they could deal with each other with insight. She wanted immediate resolution. It has to be solved now, on her demand. That isn't logical or reasonable. She wants instant gratification. It speaks to her level of maturity.
The live chat kills me some days. Y'all, she's analyzing as we go. She's not choosing a side. She's telling us straight-up whether or not something works for Johnny's case or against it because he's the one currently speaking. She can only comment on what's being said in the moment. She might *seem* like she's on JD's side, but in reality? Rottenborn is asking terrible questions, making ridiculous objections. I type court transcripts for a living. She's not wrong. The more time you spend around lawyers or in courts or listening to court? The more you learn which lawyers act like petulant children and which lawyers know what they're doing and know how to ask questions and properly react to objections instead of huffing because you aren't getting your way.
YESS!! exactly and very well said! I know im super far behind so im just now getting here and i keep reading live chats saying Emily is in denial and stuff like that but she isn't and this explains it perfectly! and i agree with the other comment, Most underrated comment!
really though lol. How is she supposed to weigh in on Amber when it's JD's case-in-chief. And Emily was very fair, pointing out good things about JD, but making it known when she didnt agree with him. BUt did the same for rottenborn - complimented what warranted it, but also not praising him up as a perfect lawyer. She objectively said good and bad about both sides
I don't think Depp even cares if he wins. He wanted his story heard and what better way to do it. Public opinion is on his side so he did exactly what he wanted to do. Kudos to him.
I don't find his behavior laudable. They both were horrible to each other and I don't know if drawing more attention to his addiction and out of control behavior seems like it may do more damage. I really didn't give the abuse allegations much thought- it just sounded like a contentious split when the news first came out. I went from a neutral opinion of JD to a negative one (and went from unawareness of AH to negative opinion of her too!)
Don't ever breed. In destroying his ex wife, he destroys their child. Child will never forget or forgive, JD on his way to dying alone and unloved lying in his own peepoo.
I’ve seen many comments surrounding JD’s wearing of “sunglasses,” on many channels covering this trial. He is legally blind in left eye, requires readers as most do by age 50. My son is also blind in L eye. When viewing bright screens, especially for long periods of time, the light can cause floaties, head aches, lack of ability to concentrate when reading bc optic nerve isn’t a pair as w other 11 cranial nerves. He looks “cool” in them, movie “starrish,” as described by many, yet for one who sees in 2D & has one seeing eye, his reading glasses w tinted lenses are necessary. My son wears glasses to protect seeing eye & imo, my son, like JD, looks handsome when wearing them, too.😂 So, hope that helps anyone who isn’t liking his choice of reading lenses.
I don't know if he is legally blind but blue tinted prescription lenses are used for people who suffer from photosensitivity especially the one emitted by screens and artificial lights. I have binocular diplopia and before getting prism lenses i used a "frost" lense to eliminate the double vision and rely on monocular vision. My mother has photosensitivity too so her prescription lenses turn brownish when exposed to the sunlight and get back to transparent.
@@samanthaorologio6866 I wrote this towards beginning of trial after hearing a main stream news anchor comment on Depp's audacity to appear so "Hollywood star-ish w those glasses. What's w the tinted lenses? They shouldn't even allow those," the news anchor said. The ignorance was beyond my imagination! I had to share that many people require special lenses. Just bc Depp looks cool, it shouldn't be allowed? Ridiculous. Hard to wrap head around how dense some professionals are.
I'm in the uk and "Hit the wall" to me (and how i've used it) means burnout... thats why its so important to clarify as phrases mean different things to different people.
I feel like it also commonly refers to an impasse between two parties. JD could be trying to communicate that JD and AH came to an impasse about some argument and neither could make any headway.
It feels like Rottenborn has a list of exhibits that he wants to get in; he doesn't care about Depp's responses. I assume these will all come back up when Heard testifies. Doesn't make me like his cross. I am doing housework and listening and am bored. Poor jury.
“as soon as my eyes go on”…. He’s so clever. That was his way of letting the Jury know his tinted glasses were for his vision… not to look “Hollywood” and/or conceal his eyes etc
She put him through so much he was looking aged and tired but I feel like just in the days of this trial alone he appears to be glowing and having life and energy back in his face. The handsome Johnny we remember
That’s one thing that shocked me the first few days in court especially when he had his hair down, how he looked ?haggard? and now he does at times look more like … if Captain Jack ate something and put on a suit. He does look a bit less grave and seems more open in his body language.
@2:36:43 Look what he did for her friend Rocky He tells Kevin Murphy to Stock Rocky up in PH1 with Wine, Cheeses, Fruits & Coffee, whatever else she needs. Kevin knows the drill. I knew he bought them food. He was so kind to Heard, her family & her friends. They hit the Gravy Train! Amber was so damn bossy, she did run his life, took complete control from him. Nobody could stand that, not only that. Heard used physical force to get him to bend to her will. He lost who he was, while giving her & her friends everything he could. My God
Hi Emily, there are so many "garbage" videos uploaded, yours is the most factual, knowledgeable, and compassionate coverage that I have found so far. Hello from ECUADOR.
And not visually awful to look at. So many have a bunch of crap that keeps going across the screen like CNN or something, it's so distracting. Emily's set up is clean and easy to watch.
Watching this again after the conclusion and man... this is brutally ineffective. And I see how they ran out of time at the end of the trial. They spent soooooo much time on text messages. Text messages and text messages and text messages. Ughhhhhhh I put this on before I go to bed
Not to mention all the time rottenborn spent searching for what he needed and having to do redactions in real time. It grated my nerves for rottenborn to keep saying he was trying to be mindful of the courts time when he was so ill prepared.
Now seeing Depp trying to testify, I can see why it’s so difficult to rein in Depp. If I’ve lived for so long, and went through something like this, it’d be hard to stop talking about how I feel rather than, what happened. My brain usually defaults to explaining my emotions.
I know it sounds crazy that Johnny drew on the walls with his blood. But I relate so much. After I had been beaten by my ex so many times I found it to be cathartic to just let it my injuries bleed everywhere I could. It felt better than just trying to bandage it up because then they would have to sit with the consequences of what they had done and have a lasting reminder instead of just moving on and acting like that physical violence never even happened. Maybe me and Johnny are both insane but it feels like the only way to get back some control or power in that situation and I don’t regret it at all
DING DING DING DING! Some abusers realllyyyy have a way of making their spouse feel INSANE. Hence the recordings the ones on his part. And the wanting the person to SEE the abuse results is so fucking relatable as a survivor. Thank you so much for bringing in this bit of perspective.
@@gracehenderson3164 Yea abusers really do end up making you crazy. All I ever wanted from my ex was to see genuine remorse just once or at least acknowledgement that they had seriously physically and emotionally hurt me. I felt desperate for it because you start to believe them when they tell you it’s all your fault and that you did something that makes you deserve physical violence. But watching Amber now be forced to see the damage she caused has been really healing and I am so happy that he is now vindicated because nobody deserves what he went through.
She's not calling him a monster. "The monster" is how Johnny Depp refers to his addiction. Oh gosh! The man is in his close to 60 and hasn't been able to kick the addiction and he isn't proud of it or how he turns when undet the influence.
After watching Amber heards testimony, I came back to watch this because I wasn’t a law nerd yet 😂 I have to say, JD actually sounds genuine. Like he’s talking from a real place with real emotion. Even the little tangents he goes on sounds like he’s actually bringing in his feelings. AH’s testimony… didn’t sound like this.
I did the same & he come across real. He admits to wrongs, he apologises & take accountability too. Hers was just fake & so dramatic it’s his text in reality lol. but I guess a person who doesn’t have a set personality wouldn’t know how to be real.. it’s so sad what he went through
I came back afterwards also, and he sounds genuine. Even in front of the world admitting mistakes and bad things he has done. She saw him argue a tiny bit w/Rottenborne. Saw him get his point of views in when it was necessary to be truthful. She wanted to pull this off with Camille, I can see it now. Ofcourse it didn't work because the audio sunk her. Those audios were the truth tellers. That was the real her, and nobody could hear them and think he should have stayed with her. Everyone could tell honestly she was horrible and ofcourse she lies. She is a Shrew with a Big Angry Mouth & Attitude of Dominance. He hung on to this marriage far too long.
I couldn’t agree more she was the only one screaming and yelling in all but one while he stayed pretty calm . She really just kept at him at every move
I agree as well. My daughter and I were listening and both looked at each other like, why would her lawyer make her look bad like that? Good for Depp but her team hung her already IMO
Someone in the live chat mentioned symptoms of CPTSD and as a person with CPTSD myself, I completely agree. I feel for him so much. We had very similar a upbringing. My heart has grown 4 sizes for Johnny Depp.
Yep. As a fellow CPTSD survivor, I completely agree. A lot of his audio and videos of him speak to me on such a deep level. I would also lash out verbally or even punch doors in arguments that got toxic. Never once hurt a person. I hope they have a professional therapist come in and point that out
Amber sounds extremely not-sober in all of her recordings. Granted Johnny certainly doesn’t either. But, it’s strange she’s trying to create the narrative that he’s a drug addict when she sounds equally as belligerent. Possibly even more so.
Wait I've been watching all of Emily's commentary and somehow the whole time I thought "Rottenborn" was a nickname she had for the lawyer we didn't like. But that is actually his name??? How fitting 😂😂😂
I feel like Johnny and his team aren’t emphasizing the importance and paranoia about his privacy when it comes to tabloid stories and being secretly recorded. They touched on it *finally* today when he said why he lied at the hospital, but it could cause paranoia for his partner secretly recording him, explaining the fights, for example in the “mega pint” video. When you’re at that level of stardom, the fear of everything you do ending up in the tabloids has to effect everything in your life.
I know it might be frustrating for some of people Johnny is answering five more questions extra when he’s supposed to answer one but I think that’s literally how his brain works, he genuinely cannot not give extra context to the context he’s giving 😅 adhd plus now clean drug addict brain - trust me I know! Plus his artists mind makes every sentence into almost a wild poem narration 😂
(Edit: see? I have adhd haha and I didn’t notice the part where you literally said he has adhd🤦🏻♀️ my apologies. But for the sake of owning my mistakes I won’t be changing my actual comment) He also has adhd, let’s not forget that. He’s neurodivergent. It’s literally how our brains function. I say this as a fellow neurodivergent person with a crap ton of trauma in my short 25 years. It literally affects your brain functioning. I don’t think the way he answers is a strategy. I really don’t. I think it’s just how his brain is working in real time, and I do the same. But maybe that makes me biased, idk
I have Autism, and it's how my brain works too. Same goes for my father. The difference between us is that my father speaks in a slooow monotone, which is due to childhood trauma. When you've gotten hurt a lot for saying the wrong thing, you start to think carefully about every word.
From my understanding the monster in Johnny's eyes is 1. failing at sobriety; he said it in a really drawn out way but at 2:56:54 he explains it best and 2. when he would participate in the fighting with Amber. I can definitely see how if he was being referred to as a monster all the time by the person he loves, at a certain point he would probably just start to accept it. There is so much evidence showing how non confrontational he is by always try to escape the fighting (whether that be with drugs or by leaving) and even in the past court case he caved in to questioning to be more agreeable at times. That doesn't sound like an abuser to me, just sounds like someone who has been beaten down and antagonized to a point where he cracks and either fails at sobriety or be stoops to Amber's level and insults her back.
Sounds also like survival, too. To diffuse a violent situation, sometimes acquiescence can prevent even worse violence, especially in situations where the power imbalance is great (like between an adult and a child). This was probably how he survived as a kid. Accept what the abuser is saying and doing because resistance will just provoke them to double down and go even further into abusive extremity. He's trying to diffuse a bomb.
But why does Rottenborne have the biggest “this is my last presentation before graduation so I threw some quotes on some slide last night but didn’t read them” vibes. It’s like he’s constantly surprised by his own evidence…like oh shit I do have that tape but did I put in in my presentation though….?? 🤔🤔
AH’s team pointing out that when JD texts her family he does nothing but praise her. I did the same thing to both my family and my ex’s when they were abusing me. It’s part denial and part wanting to keep others from being worried. My ex could be screaming at me and calling me names while I wrote my mom a cheerful “another day in paradise!” Text. It’s part of the horrible experience unfortunately.
This is the first time since the trial ended that I went back and rewatched the whole trial. And by God I freaking love depps whole team. It was like watching a major league team go against I high school team. This mirrors what they do to Elaine's redirect of amber perfectly.
Damn, rewatching this trial and AH should have let lawyers lawyer. AH was trying to lawyer her own case with a separate agenda from Rottenborn’s legal position. You could tell from her lexicon as displayed in court and during her interview that she definitely thought she was smarter than most, and certainly acting as a lawyer on the screen does not mean you are lawyer. What a lesson in arrogance
All of this breaks my heart for Johnny Depp. I have been a great fan of his for years and I remember when he started doing the character captain jack. It was near to when he had his first born child and I remember he said it was a role he wanted to do as he wanted to finally do something his children could see him in and feel proud. Something clean and friendly for children. Many of his previous roles had been rougher characters and not so child friendly types. This was something he said he wanted to do for his children.
That"s why I doubt it will ever get made as Pirates 6. They may do a prequel or something to make $ using a much younger Jack Sparrow character.Johnnie is really getting quite old now to do Pirates 6, anyway,though he cld get in better shape,lose weight, etc.That"s Hollywood.Heartless.
It’s like Ms Heard can shout and hurl absentees to Johnny Depp but the minute he had enough of it and shouts back they start crying abuse. All I’m hearing is her starting the fights. Also there’s audio of her voice and nothing of Johnny’s voice. She could have said anything and he would just look at her like she’s crazy and she’s saying it’s proof. What a waste of time.
When Rottenborn gets huffy it’s like he’s has watched too much Law & Order and wants to take that Hollywood lawyer brow beating approach but then Johnny’s team objects and his fantasy comes crashing down.
This is a terrible trial. Amber's attorney is throwing out random statements at random times saying basically nothing. If I were a juror I'd be tearing my hair out. I wouldn't have enough information to make an informed decision either way.
Exactly i don’t think the bloodbath comment was damming to him at all because he could have been speaking metaphorically or even literally but in reference to abuse he suffered it doesn’t actually admit any wrongdoing in that statement
I missed Johnny's testimony when the trial originally aired - only started watching after I saw everyone online freaking out about Muffingate. During Amber's direct/redirect I thought it was incredibly painful when Elaine went 10+ minutes without getting a question in because of objections. watching Johnny's testimony now, learning that the same thing happened with Rottenborn, it was almost laughable. Amber's testimony sunk her own ship, but seeing JD's genuineness during direct and the poor lawyering during his cross... I think her case was doomed from the start. So many of the audio's Rottenborn played either didn't move the needle, or showed it was a no-win situation no matter how JD reacted because AH would escalate anyway, or they flat out were worse for her than him. I spent most of the cross scratching my head wondering wtf Rb was trying to accomplish
Amber isn't a good enough actress to hit her stride as she ages. She is going to be ruined no matter what. Johnny is creative enough to still act no matter what. He got skill, she got nothing special
Taking my dislike of her out of the equation, Jason Momoa is know by his name (not just Aquaman), Gal Gadot might be best known as Wonderwoman, but at least that's an acting role. Amber Heard is known for once being married to Johnny Depp.
You hit it exactly on the head! She's nothing at all special, nothing remarkable or memorable about her. Johnny Depp is versatile in a great many ways that she'd never even be able to think of! She's a mimic w\o an ounce of talent herself. Just a great pair of tits that time & gravity will take away. Even w\the best surgeons. I mean she's already been destroying her looks w\whatever she tried to do what 18mo ago. I'll say her face looks a bit better here than the UK trial & how wide her face was. But still not enough makeup in the world to hide her ugly!
Touching back on the makeup - the attorney mentioned Amber used “amica” cream to cover up the bruise. It was more likely she was told about “arnica” cream, which is a real thing some use to speed up the healing of bruises. Arnica does not cover them up, but it speeds up their dissolving away. Her assurances on the podium when interrogating a witness with “amica” cream references was very wrong!
Yes, clearly the lawyer needs glasses. She misread the “RN” in Arnica as an “M”. But that also means she’s never spoken out loud to Amber about using Arnica cream, either. If she’s only ever seen the name on text, and never heard it said out loud, how does she know Amber used it?
I've used Arnica it still takes 2 weeks to fully take the bruise away, and it brings out the swelling in bruises (from personal experience) her bruises look like makeup.
Watching this back in hindsight, knowing what’s coming… knowing how bad it gets- seeing Emily scream “SHUT THE FUCK UP ROTTENBORN” is the funniest damn thing in this whole video. Because it’s the first time she got **actually** aggressive in her anger at his competence, and it only gets worse from here in Heard’s side.
LITTLE RICHARD 😭 I love this man, he's so silly, funny and extraordinary. He seems like a great guy to be friends with, to tell the silliest jokes and enjoy his company.
That’s the lawyers fault. It’s also the nature of the case. He’s more concerned with making Johnny look bad. That being said When he’s cross examining.. or in other situations when prosecution is trying to convict somebody the ones with common sense know to walk the jury through the case with them seeing as how it’s their job to convince the jury of your side. Buuuuuut These are high paid uppity lawyers with nothing but book smarts that think it’s about showing off and not actually winning lol.
Emily yelling at Rottenborn immediately when he starts talking is too funny 😂 I only started watching when Amber testified and she was so careful to be impartial.
I really understood when he was talking about hearing something so much as a child you start to believe it. I was told I was stupid from age 8-10 and it’s still hard for me to not see myself that way.
He has definitely been in therapy and been educated in domestic violence and the cycle of violence. Even though he rambles etc. He appears so sincere and self depreciating. The email, even if they were about Amber - would only be a way to let out his frustration and letting off steam etc.
I think that the major reason JD sued after this article is because she claimed she was the survivor of SA. Even her one lawyer in the opening said that JD SA’ed her several times during the marriage and described an alleged incident with a liquor bottle…
This is what Johnny said that made the court laugh; “I'm so pathetic when it comes to knowing what movies I've done," Depp, 58, said on the stand with a smile. "I'm sorry. I just, I don't watch them. I feel better not watching them. What was the question again?"
Can’t believe Rottenborn asked if he’d ever seen AH cut herself and then play a recording where she says “don’t cut yourself it doesn’t help trust me! “ 🤦🏼♀️
I just found you but I will listen to you this afternoon.......Rottenbottom drove me up the wall and NO he was NOT talking about a literal bloodbath or her hitting the wall...How stupid.
Same went checked one of the channels Emily suggested and literally was just about to say eff this and the electricity went out and was out for couple hours. So just watched the news clips and read comments
The more I listen to Johnny talking about how Amber would behave throughout the years, the more I get the impression that all her accusations of what Johhny would do to her would in reality actually be what she did to him...
The surgeon’s knowledge that the damage to the finger could not confirm Depp’s statement or excuse at the ER is extremely important as evidence of Heard’s physical and emotional abuse. If that’s dismissed by Heard’s attorney and sustained by the judge as hearsay shouldn’t the Depp team bring in the surgeon as a witness?
I had missed some of this testimony and just reviewing this again I cannot believe their focus on the term 'bloodbath'. For me, it's often a term used if one football team completely beats the other, i.e, that match was a bloodbath!. This does not literally mean that one set of football players bludgeoned the other side and made them bleed! So frustrating listening to this again!
All Johnny Depp needed to say in response to all those pre-Op Ed articles was, “yes, there were plenty of tabloid pieces about me over the years but none of them caused me to lose work as Ms. Heard’s article did. Which is why we’re here.”
2:55:00 the monster JD says is 2 things. Him refusing to stop drinking alcohol/sobriety and him swearing at Amber in heated arguments AKA high blood pressure
Just in section 6, alone, of his contract for Pirates 4 & 5 he clearly had a major role in the films. He had to approve the costars, script, locations, directors. If he’s calling shots like that clearly Disney was not planning on axing him.
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When Depp said 'the monster was sobriety'. I think what he meant was the monster was -his battle with sobriety-. Everything that goes into it. The struggles with being sober. The depths of self-hatred, being gaslit, relapsing, being called a monster for not being able to stay sober, for being called basically a weak loser due to his addiction...all of this, it seems to be, falls under his umbrella of 'sobriety', ie: everything in his life that surrounds the discussion of sobriety. He's not being clear here tho, opening himself up for misinterpretation and he may have confused the jury.
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I know this was days ago but he’s talking about building jack sparrow from the ground up. If I recall correctly. Even jack sparrow had said “never hit a women” being frustrated with Elizabeth
Anyone who is upset about how JD speaks, I would like to suggest a comparison. You come to a foreign country and you don't understand their language in full and no one understands you in full. But you really want to be understood. That's why JD speaks like this. He speaks a different language than we do. He speaks poetry and humor that we don't know and that's his normal language. And he is now trying to explain all this in our language and is also afraid of being misunderstood. He has already made the experience that his statements did not lead to success, whether with Amber or in court in the UK. There he went out as a wifebeater. So yes, he is afraid and has difficulty communicating himself to us in a much more foreign language. But his brain works perfectly. I think it is even a bit superior to the normal mortal. And on top of that, he is a victim of psychological and physical violence.
Wow im so used to him speaking that i want to listen to him talk all the time ❤️❤️❤️❤️ also i feel its good for him to talk about his feelings finally.. he deserves to be heard poor little thing he breaks my heart
As a musician: as to what JD is talking about, yes. The left hand generally plays the frets/ the neck of the guitar. Also, I absolutely relate to JP as he talks about what playing means to him. I lost my voice in 2015. It was one of the most depressing years I've ever had. It felt as if I had nothing left at the worst of it. It took a long time for my voice to recover to any semblance of what it was before. I'm sure this was the same for JD. I doubt he would chop his own finger off. Edit: I'm tired. I meant JD. Johnny Depp.
I've been a guitar player for 2/3s of my life (im 29). Over the last ~3 years I've been struggling with chronic (?) tendinitis that still hasnt been definitively diagnosed/treated. It's getting worse, and it's to the point I haven't touched my guitars at all in 3+ months, and barely did for th 15+ months prior. Along with the tendinitis affecting/prohibiting my other hobbies. It gets to you after a while. It's physical discomfort, but also a huge emotional/mental toll having something so important "stripped away" from you. I 100% understand johnny's feelings about it. And I can relate to his dark humor/sensationalism in those texts. I often joke/say that I'm just gonna chop my arm off because it'll get rid of the pain/take care of the problem. Do I genuinely mean I'm gonna cut my own arm off? no. It's a dark way of coping with a sensitive, distressing topic. It was definitely the same for him. Faced with a hugely impactful injury that takes away a huge part of you (even temporarily) can lead to some odd ways of coping. And like other things, Rottenborn tried too hard to say they were literal
i dont think his drug use at this point shows any ill will, he has been open about his illict and px misuse since the 1990s. Its well documented i think they tried to sterio type him throughout the trail so far, however in my experience, withdrawing patient are rarely violent more sorrowful and repentant in their actions, and his experience like others is different, some take the knock (or nod as he said). I have both personal and professional experiences of this, I also have experince of male dv victims and they will tell you anything to deflect from their partner just like woman its no different i also have personal, familiar and professional experience of both male and female victims. I do object to them making (what seems) a mockery of male DV when its very under reported in the UK. Trying to link him to manson am suprised they didnt bring up river pheonix!! Makes a mockery of his experiences. Either way, JD has my utter respect, i do believe she goaded him into action at times, thats not to say he didnt respond, but with my professional experience of child trauma, misuse and adult trauma, adhd and add etc he presents, talks expresses in a way that i am very use too. As a MH professional we are not always right, and i am constantly trying to rectify mistakes made from others and myself, we dont know everything or there would be no MH services left if we had the answers, the ICD and DSM are not 100% we dont have an xray to get it right💜🙏
What I gathered from monster is it had several meanings. Monster in terms of addiction for Amber's labeling Monster for sobriety Monster as in losing verbal control, i.e. he wasn't proud of yelling back calling names etc.
did Rottenbomb seriously ask the judge to completely stop Depp's side from objecting on relevance? DUDE! "this is a pathetic attempt" I mean he's not wrong. and then Rottenborn goes and proves it by refusing to move on when the judge has sustained numerous objections.
It's obvious that Johnny has been a long term drug/alcohol user, and in some circumstances, a drug abuser. It has altered how his mind works and how he conveys thoughts. You cannot expect short, concise answers from him as you would from someone who does not suffer from such after-effects.
I figured it out the monster 8s the hurt, anger, sadness, that came when sober, when fighting with amber, when disapointed with himself for diinking or doing drugs
I didn't really watch the trial while it was happening, but I stumbled across this channel and coverage of it a couple of days ago so I decided to watch it now. I'm at the part in the redirect when they're discussing the writing on the mirror and Emily said that writing on the walls seems to be a weird response to having his fingertip taken off. My theory on it is this: she had come to Australia angry about the post-nup that Depp's lawyer had presented her with (if I remember the timing correctly). He was trying to escape her anger with his drinking and trying to ignore her, which made her even more angry. So she threw the bottles at him and it cut off his finger. At this point, Depp is likely under the influence of various substances. He's now in shock from a sudden, physically traumatic injury to his body while still on some level dealing with any number of negative emotions from both the current confrontation and whatever previous traumas the situation was triggering for him. And is still under the influence of substances. So in that state, with his brain not really being able to function or process the situation properly, it honestly makes sense to me that in his mind the only way to try and get her to listen to him and vent his anger and frustrations was to write it on the walls. He wasn't operating at full capacity at that point. It probably didn't even register in that moment "I need to get my finger treated". He was in pure reaction mode and his brain was trying to process and cope with everything but didn't know how to in that moment. I've had situations as well where my trauma brain kind of took over and all rationality and reasonable thinking left the building so to speak. I haven't done the same kinds of things as Depp or gone to the same extremes, but I have checked out and done self-destructive behavior while on a sort of auto-pilot because at the time there truly felt like no other way to react to the situation. Things that, even after explaining myself, other people still don't fully understand and can't quite wrap their heads around. So as grotesque as it may sound to some, I really do understand why he would have drawn on the walls with his finger in that moment. Does that make it okay? No, it doesn't. It was still horrible and traumatic for not only himself but likely many other people involved in the incident. It is understandable how he would react that way though.
Walking away from an argument is something that I lived as well. My bf during an argument wants to take time off to think and calm down so that he doesn’t say anything mean to me. My previous long time relationship was really toxic and with my previous bf we would argue for hours and after me crying for hours, I would just get tired and would ask him can we please just stop, I cannot do this anymore. After that toxic arguing, my current bf’s approach was so different, in the beginning of our relationship, I wanted to continue discuss/argue but he would always take a step back which at that time would get me so anxious. But I realised his idea of calming down and discussing afterwards was the better option than yelling to each other for hours. After accepting that and learning to appreciate his way, we are doing so so so much better. We both know each other’s way of thinking and we don’t even argue anymore. After a horrible relationship, I had to learn how to be healthy and I am so glad to find an amazing person as my current bf. I didn’t even realised how damaged I was because of my previous relationship. So I can see Depp’s idea of walking away and calming down for further discussions. It is the healthy way.
I think what I have realized about their arguing dynamic is that there was no way he could ever calm her down. If he walks away or isolates, she escalates. If he stays and engages in the argument with the hopes of coming to a resolution, she escalates. This was a no win for him in every battle.
Very true!
I suspect that even if he were to just flat out agree with her everytime, she wouldn't calm down (and he often does try to agree with her! Calling himself a monster, co-opting the language of her abuse). You're right, there was no winning there, no way to diffuse. Its almost like she doesn't even want a resolution. The point is the chaos and the fury-thats what shes going for. Part of her wants it to get to the point where people are shrieking and losing it, and there's a satisfaction knowing that she's the orchestrator. Of course, this is just my interpretation based on my own experience of people who operate in this way. Whether Amber is this kind of person, I guess ill have to wait and see when she testifies.
Exactly, Diane. Exactly.
@@meghanpoplacean2216 I think what she wanted was compliance....for him to meet and agree with her perspective. I take note of her unwillingness to respect his space and a desire for a time to reflect and cool off so that they could deal with each other with insight. She wanted immediate resolution. It has to be solved now, on her demand. That isn't logical or reasonable. She wants instant gratification. It speaks to her level of maturity.
@@dianeupshaw5337 true!
The live chat kills me some days. Y'all, she's analyzing as we go. She's not choosing a side. She's telling us straight-up whether or not something works for Johnny's case or against it because he's the one currently speaking. She can only comment on what's being said in the moment. She might *seem* like she's on JD's side, but in reality? Rottenborn is asking terrible questions, making ridiculous objections. I type court transcripts for a living. She's not wrong. The more time you spend around lawyers or in courts or listening to court? The more you learn which lawyers act like petulant children and which lawyers know what they're doing and know how to ask questions and properly react to objections instead of huffing because you aren't getting your way.
Thanks you. 👏👏👏Nicely explained. (I watch many court cases)
Most underrated comment that needs more attention for the people in the back!
YESS!! exactly and very well said! I know im super far behind so im just now getting here and i keep reading live chats saying Emily is in denial and stuff like that but she isn't and this explains it perfectly! and i agree with the other comment, Most underrated comment!
really though lol. How is she supposed to weigh in on Amber when it's JD's case-in-chief. And Emily was very fair, pointing out good things about JD, but making it known when she didnt agree with him. BUt did the same for rottenborn - complimented what warranted it, but also not praising him up as a perfect lawyer. She objectively said good and bad about both sides
I don't think Depp even cares if he wins. He wanted his story heard and what better way to do it. Public opinion is on his side so he did exactly what he wanted to do. Kudos to him.
I don't find his behavior laudable. They both were horrible to each other and I don't know if drawing more attention to his addiction and out of control behavior seems like it may do more damage.
I really didn't give the abuse allegations much thought- it just sounded like a contentious split when the news first came out. I went from a neutral opinion of JD to a negative one (and went from unawareness of AH to negative opinion of her too!)
@@mtz6198 I truly don't care about your opinion since you made a comment that DV is normally both people being abusive.
Agreed
of course he's not gonna win, his claim is he has "Lost Everything" while being a multi millionaire /eyeroll
Don't ever breed. In destroying his ex wife, he destroys their child. Child will never forget or forgive, JD on his way to dying alone and unloved lying in his own peepoo.
I’ve seen many comments surrounding JD’s wearing of “sunglasses,” on many channels covering this trial. He is legally blind in left eye, requires readers as most do by age 50. My son is also blind in L eye. When viewing bright screens, especially for long periods of time, the light can cause floaties, head aches, lack of ability to concentrate when reading bc optic nerve isn’t a pair as w other 11 cranial nerves. He looks “cool” in them, movie “starrish,” as described by many, yet for one who sees in 2D & has one seeing eye, his reading glasses w tinted lenses are necessary. My son wears glasses to protect seeing eye & imo, my son, like JD, looks handsome when wearing them, too.😂 So, hope that helps anyone who isn’t liking his choice of reading lenses.
I appreciate this comment, a lot of people don’t know about those particular lenses also Emily wears them too so we love our tinted lens wearers!
I don't know if he is legally blind but blue tinted prescription lenses are used for people who suffer from photosensitivity especially the one emitted by screens and artificial lights.
I have binocular diplopia and before getting prism lenses i used a "frost" lense to eliminate the double vision and rely on monocular vision.
My mother has photosensitivity too so her prescription lenses turn brownish when exposed to the sunlight and get back to transparent.
@@redleeks6253 He said himself that he's legally blind in that eye and had problems with it since childhood
Thank you so much for taking the time to share this. I love to see it.
@@samanthaorologio6866 I wrote this towards beginning of trial after hearing a main stream news anchor comment on Depp's audacity to appear so "Hollywood star-ish w those glasses. What's w the tinted lenses? They shouldn't even allow those," the news anchor said. The ignorance was beyond my imagination! I had to share that many people require special lenses. Just bc Depp looks cool, it shouldn't be allowed? Ridiculous. Hard to wrap head around how dense some professionals are.
I'm in the uk and "Hit the wall" to me (and how i've used it) means burnout... thats why its so important to clarify as phrases mean different things to different people.
I feel like it also commonly refers to an impasse between two parties. JD could be trying to communicate that JD and AH came to an impasse about some argument and neither could make any headway.
To me this entire cross-examination comes off as Rottenborn trying to testify. He’s not even listening to the answers he’s getting.
That’s all he seems to do.
He seems like a tabloid journalist just spewing info and not really caring how it comes off or how accurate it is 😵💫
It feels like Rottenborn has a list of exhibits that he wants to get in; he doesn't care about Depp's responses. I assume these will all come back up when Heard testifies. Doesn't make me like his cross. I am doing housework and listening and am bored. Poor jury.
The reality is that Mr. Rottenborn doesn’t listen and in my opinion is lost.
@@caknight couldn’t have said it better 👏🏻
“as soon as my eyes go on”…. He’s so clever. That was his way of letting the Jury know his tinted glasses were for his vision… not to look “Hollywood” and/or conceal his eyes etc
She put him through so much he was looking aged and tired but I feel like just in the days of this trial alone he appears to be glowing and having life and energy back in his face. The handsome Johnny we remember
That’s one thing that shocked me the first few days in court especially when he had his hair down, how he looked ?haggard?
and now he does at times look more like … if Captain Jack ate something and put on a suit. He does look a bit less grave and seems more open in his body language.
I'm sure Johnny felt great getting all of that mental garbage out to the public, finally 🙌
@2:36:43 Look what he did for her friend Rocky
He tells Kevin Murphy to Stock Rocky up in PH1 with Wine, Cheeses, Fruits & Coffee, whatever else she needs. Kevin knows the drill. I knew he bought them food. He was so kind to Heard, her family & her friends. They hit the Gravy Train! Amber was so damn bossy, she did run his life, took complete control from him. Nobody could stand that, not only that. Heard used physical force to get him to bend to her will. He lost who he was, while giving her & her friends everything he could. My God
Hi Emily, there are so many "garbage" videos uploaded, yours is the most factual, knowledgeable, and compassionate coverage that I have found so far. Hello from ECUADOR.
FACTS
And not visually awful to look at. So many have a bunch of crap that keeps going across the screen like CNN or something, it's so distracting. Emily's set up is clean and easy to watch.
Watching this again after the conclusion and man... this is brutally ineffective. And I see how they ran out of time at the end of the trial. They spent soooooo much time on text messages. Text messages and text messages and text messages. Ughhhhhhh I put this on before I go to bed
Not to mention all the time rottenborn spent searching for what he needed and having to do redactions in real time. It grated my nerves for rottenborn to keep saying he was trying to be mindful of the courts time when he was so ill prepared.
Now seeing Depp trying to testify, I can see why it’s so difficult to rein in Depp. If I’ve lived for so long, and went through something like this, it’d be hard to stop talking about how I feel rather than, what happened. My brain usually defaults to explaining my emotions.
Her lawyer keeps acting like he’s making a point but I don’t think it’s the point he thinks he makes.
Right?! Lol
I feel like Amber is coming across as studied and like she's acting, whereas Johnny is coming across more like he's just himself.
I know it sounds crazy that Johnny drew on the walls with his blood. But I relate so much. After I had been beaten by my ex so many times I found it to be cathartic to just let it my injuries bleed everywhere I could. It felt better than just trying to bandage it up because then they would have to sit with the consequences of what they had done and have a lasting reminder instead of just moving on and acting like that physical violence never even happened. Maybe me and Johnny are both insane but it feels like the only way to get back some control or power in that situation and I don’t regret it at all
DING DING DING DING! Some abusers realllyyyy have a way of making their spouse feel INSANE. Hence the recordings the ones on his part. And the wanting the person to SEE the abuse results is so fucking relatable as a survivor. Thank you so much for bringing in this bit of perspective.
@@gracehenderson3164 Yea abusers really do end up making you crazy. All I ever wanted from my ex was to see genuine remorse just once or at least acknowledgement that they had seriously physically and emotionally hurt me. I felt desperate for it because you start to believe them when they tell you it’s all your fault and that you did something that makes you deserve physical violence. But watching Amber now be forced to see the damage she caused has been really healing and I am so happy that he is now vindicated because nobody deserves what he went through.
Thanks for sharing this, it's something I would have never considered
Her calling him "the monster" all the time, when he's trying to kick an addiction, was tearing him down....ugh. Seems like she had a plan.
Yeah, she had a plan from the beginning. I think she wanted to piggy back on Johnny’s fame for her career.
I agree 100% with you. She had a plan since the beginning take his money.
She's not calling him a monster. "The monster" is how Johnny Depp refers to his addiction. Oh gosh!
The man is in his close to 60 and hasn't been able to kick the addiction and he isn't proud of it or how he turns when undet the influence.
@@redleeks6253 she started the title, not him.
After watching Amber heards testimony, I came back to watch this because I wasn’t a law nerd yet 😂 I have to say, JD actually sounds genuine. Like he’s talking from a real place with real emotion. Even the little tangents he goes on sounds like he’s actually bringing in his feelings. AH’s testimony… didn’t sound like this.
I did the same & he come across real. He admits to wrongs, he apologises & take accountability too. Hers was just fake & so dramatic it’s his text in reality lol. but I guess a person who doesn’t have a set personality wouldn’t know how to be real.. it’s so sad what he went through
I came back afterwards also, and he sounds genuine. Even in front of the world admitting mistakes and bad things he has done. She saw him argue a tiny bit w/Rottenborne. Saw him get his point of views in when it was necessary to be truthful. She wanted to pull this off with Camille, I can see it now. Ofcourse it didn't work because the audio sunk her. Those audios were the truth tellers. That was the real her, and nobody could hear them and think he should have stayed with her. Everyone could tell honestly she was horrible and ofcourse she lies. She is a Shrew with a Big Angry Mouth & Attitude of Dominance. He hung on to this marriage far too long.
The selection of audio clips presented by AH’s lawyer, seem more damaging to AH than than to JD, IMO.
I couldn’t agree more she was the only one screaming and yelling in all but one while he stayed pretty calm . She really just kept at him at every move
I agree as well. My daughter and I were listening and both looked at each other like, why would her lawyer make her look bad like that? Good for Depp but her team hung her already IMO
@@-KMA- yea that is the truth
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That’s the best they had to offer, which was not in her favour at all. Pretty telling that she didn’t get one recording of actual abuse.
@@Sgrand34 "when you were beating the shit out of me" amber to Depp... He doesn't deny
This is the day Rottenborn ALMOST caught Capt. Jack Sparrow!!!
Mwah Ha ha
Someone in the live chat mentioned symptoms of CPTSD and as a person with CPTSD myself, I completely agree. I feel for him so much. We had very similar a upbringing. My heart has grown 4 sizes for Johnny Depp.
Yep. As a fellow CPTSD survivor, I completely agree. A lot of his audio and videos of him speak to me on such a deep level. I would also lash out verbally or even punch doors in arguments that got toxic. Never once hurt a person. I hope they have a professional therapist come in and point that out
Amber sounds extremely not-sober in all of her recordings. Granted Johnny certainly doesn’t either. But, it’s strange she’s trying to create the narrative that he’s a drug addict when she sounds equally as belligerent. Possibly even more so.
2 wine bottle a day she's a drunk
Yeah she was downright slurring her words in one of them. Made me cringe.
Yes, and JD says he had Sean drive her because she’d had too much alcohol to drive.
Her own friend Josh Drew said that she is doing cocaine. And by her own words she "popped Adderal, Mdsm, mushroom" and she had prescripted drugs.
I am glad to know someone else has thought the same. That the tone of her tone voice and the things she says sound like stuff angry drunk girls say
Wait I've been watching all of Emily's commentary and somehow the whole time I thought "Rottenborn" was a nickname she had for the lawyer we didn't like. But that is actually his name??? How fitting 😂😂😂
Fr like so many names like RottenBum or rottenhottom
Rotterborn: Good morning
Emily: OH SHUT UP ROTTERBORN
HAHAHAHAHA that cracked me up!!
Rottenborn can read, all i got out of this cross
Sexual abuse was listed later in article. Not mentioned by Rottenborn
I feel like Johnny and his team aren’t emphasizing the importance and paranoia about his privacy when it comes to tabloid stories and being secretly recorded. They touched on it *finally* today when he said why he lied at the hospital, but it could cause paranoia for his partner secretly recording him, explaining the fights, for example in the “mega pint” video. When you’re at that level of stardom, the fear of everything you do ending up in the tabloids has to effect everything in your life.
Exactly.👍
Heerds attorney is like if you can't dazzle them with brilliance baffle them with bullshit
I know it might be frustrating for some of people Johnny is answering five more questions extra when he’s supposed to answer one but I think that’s literally how his brain works, he genuinely cannot not give extra context to the context he’s giving 😅 adhd plus now clean drug addict brain - trust me I know! Plus his artists mind makes every sentence into almost a wild poem narration 😂
(Edit: see? I have adhd haha and I didn’t notice the part where you literally said he has adhd🤦🏻♀️ my apologies. But for the sake of owning my mistakes I won’t be changing my actual comment)
He also has adhd, let’s not forget that. He’s neurodivergent. It’s literally how our brains function. I say this as a fellow neurodivergent person with a crap ton of trauma in my short 25 years. It literally affects your brain functioning. I don’t think the way he answers is a strategy. I really don’t. I think it’s just how his brain is working in real time, and I do the same. But maybe that makes me biased, idk
I have Autism, and it's how my brain works too. Same goes for my father. The difference between us is that my father speaks in a slooow monotone, which is due to childhood trauma. When you've gotten hurt a lot for saying the wrong thing, you start to think carefully about every word.
From my understanding the monster in Johnny's eyes is 1. failing at sobriety; he said it in a really drawn out way but at 2:56:54 he explains it best and 2. when he would participate in the fighting with Amber.
I can definitely see how if he was being referred to as a monster all the time by the person he loves, at a certain point he would probably just start to accept it. There is so much evidence showing how non confrontational he is by always try to escape the fighting (whether that be with drugs or by leaving) and even in the past court case he caved in to questioning to be more agreeable at times. That doesn't sound like an abuser to me, just sounds like someone who has been beaten down and antagonized to a point where he cracks and either fails at sobriety or be stoops to Amber's level and insults her back.
Sounds also like survival, too. To diffuse a violent situation, sometimes acquiescence can prevent even worse violence, especially in situations where the power imbalance is great (like between an adult and a child). This was probably how he survived as a kid. Accept what the abuser is saying and doing because resistance will just provoke them to double down and go even further into abusive extremity. He's trying to diffuse a bomb.
But why does Rottenborne have the biggest “this is my last presentation before graduation so I threw some quotes on some slide last night but didn’t read them” vibes. It’s like he’s constantly surprised by his own evidence…like oh shit I do have that tape but did I put in in my presentation though….?? 🤔🤔
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Yes especially when he keeps sighing it’s like “just make this easier on me” so shocking.
AH’s team pointing out that when JD texts her family he does nothing but praise her.
I did the same thing to both my family and my ex’s when they were abusing me. It’s part denial and part wanting to keep others from being worried.
My ex could be screaming at me and calling me names while I wrote my mom a cheerful “another day in paradise!” Text. It’s part of the horrible experience unfortunately.
This is the first time since the trial ended that I went back and rewatched the whole trial. And by God I freaking love depps whole team. It was like watching a major league team go against I high school team. This mirrors what they do to Elaine's redirect of amber perfectly.
Damn, rewatching this trial and AH should have let lawyers lawyer. AH was trying to lawyer her own case with a separate agenda from Rottenborn’s legal position. You could tell from her lexicon as displayed in court and during her interview that she definitely thought she was smarter than most, and certainly acting as a lawyer on the screen does not mean you are lawyer. What a lesson in arrogance
All of this breaks my heart for Johnny Depp. I have been a great fan of his for years and I remember when he started doing the character captain jack. It was near to when he had his first born child and I remember he said it was a role he wanted to do as he wanted to finally do something his children could see him in and feel proud. Something clean and friendly for children. Many of his previous roles had been rougher characters and not so child friendly types. This was something he said he wanted to do for his children.
This adds immensely to the overall damage AH caused with that op-ed in The Sun
Hearing him talk about being dropped from Pirates, damn. Completely heartbreaking. Depp IS the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise.
That"s why I doubt it will ever get made as Pirates 6. They may do a prequel or something to make $ using a much younger Jack Sparrow character.Johnnie is really getting quite old now to do Pirates 6, anyway,though he cld get in better shape,lose weight, etc.That"s Hollywood.Heartless.
I'm more sad about the Fantastic beast franchise! He was great as Grindlewald.
It’s like Ms Heard can shout and hurl absentees to Johnny Depp but the minute he had enough of it and shouts back they start crying abuse. All I’m hearing is her starting the fights. Also there’s audio of her voice and nothing of Johnny’s voice. She could have said anything and he would just look at her like she’s crazy and she’s saying it’s proof. What a waste of time.
Rottenborn is so unlikeable, he’s failing terribly. I’m here for JD’s sass towards him 😂
This!
Same 😂
Omg he is, I'm sat sowing seeds in my greenhouse and shouting swear words every now and again 😅
I feel like he was the kid that tried to “burn” all of his friends with snide comments and when they didn’t work he cried. Lol
@@caknight haha yes 😂😂 when I was watching this last night I though to myself, I bet he had no friends as a kid because he would tell on everyone 😂
When Rottenborn gets huffy it’s like he’s has watched too much Law & Order and wants to take that Hollywood lawyer brow beating approach but then Johnny’s team objects and his fantasy comes crashing down.
Exactly!! 😂😂
This is a terrible trial. Amber's attorney is throwing out random statements at random times saying basically nothing. If I were a juror I'd be tearing my hair out. I wouldn't have enough information to make an informed decision either way.
Exactly i don’t think the bloodbath comment was damming to him at all because he could have been speaking metaphorically or even literally but in reference to abuse he suffered it doesn’t actually admit any wrongdoing in that statement
Right? I need a timeline!!
That’s correct just trying to make Mr. Depp look bad. When In reality he and his team are the ones looking terrible.
I missed Johnny's testimony when the trial originally aired - only started watching after I saw everyone online freaking out about Muffingate. During Amber's direct/redirect I thought it was incredibly painful when Elaine went 10+ minutes without getting a question in because of objections. watching Johnny's testimony now, learning that the same thing happened with Rottenborn, it was almost laughable.
Amber's testimony sunk her own ship, but seeing JD's genuineness during direct and the poor lawyering during his cross... I think her case was doomed from the start. So many of the audio's Rottenborn played either didn't move the needle, or showed it was a no-win situation no matter how JD reacted because AH would escalate anyway, or they flat out were worse for her than him. I spent most of the cross scratching my head wondering wtf Rb was trying to accomplish
Amber isn't a good enough actress to hit her stride as she ages.
She is going to be ruined no matter what. Johnny is creative enough to still act no matter what. He got skill, she got nothing special
Taking my dislike of her out of the equation, Jason Momoa is know by his name (not just Aquaman), Gal Gadot might be best known as Wonderwoman, but at least that's an acting role. Amber Heard is known for once being married to Johnny Depp.
You hit it exactly on the head! She's nothing at all special, nothing remarkable or memorable about her. Johnny Depp is versatile in a great many ways that she'd never even be able to think of! She's a mimic w\o an ounce of talent herself. Just a great pair of tits that time & gravity will take away. Even w\the best surgeons. I mean she's already been destroying her looks w\whatever she tried to do what 18mo ago. I'll say her face looks a bit better here than the UK trial & how wide her face was. But still not enough makeup in the world to hide her ugly!
Touching back on the makeup - the attorney mentioned Amber used “amica” cream to cover up the bruise. It was more likely she was told about “arnica” cream, which is a real thing some use to speed up the healing of bruises. Arnica does not cover them up, but it speeds up their dissolving away. Her assurances on the podium when interrogating a witness with “amica” cream references was very wrong!
Yes, clearly the lawyer needs glasses. She misread the “RN” in Arnica as an “M”.
But that also means she’s never spoken out loud to Amber about using Arnica cream, either. If she’s only ever seen the name on text, and never heard it said out loud, how does she know Amber used it?
I've used Arnica it still takes 2 weeks to fully take the bruise away, and it brings out the swelling in bruises (from personal experience) her bruises look like makeup.
Rottenborn: Good morning everyone hope u had a nice weekend
Emily: Oh SHUT up ROTTEN BORN!
😂😂😂💀💀💀
Mr. Jerry judge was so sweet.. his txt messages was so lovely
Jerry Judge was known in Hollywood as “Life-Angel” for his experience as an amazing bodyguard.
Watching this back in hindsight, knowing what’s coming… knowing how bad it gets- seeing Emily scream “SHUT THE FUCK UP ROTTENBORN” is the funniest damn thing in this whole video. Because it’s the first time she got **actually** aggressive in her anger at his competence, and it only gets worse from here in Heard’s side.
I missed this when I caught the live bc I was at work so seeing this made my day as I'm doing a replay binge months later lol it was the frickin best!
LITTLE RICHARD 😭 I love this man, he's so silly, funny and extraordinary. He seems like a great guy to be friends with, to tell the silliest jokes and enjoy his company.
Would suck to be in a jury position bc if it wasn’t for Emily’s commentary I would be completely LOST!!
That’s the lawyers fault. It’s also the nature of the case. He’s more concerned with making Johnny look bad.
That being said When he’s cross examining.. or in other situations when prosecution is trying to convict somebody the ones with common sense know to walk the jury through the case with them seeing as how it’s their job to convince the jury of your side. Buuuuuut These are high paid uppity lawyers with nothing but book smarts that think it’s about showing off and not actually winning lol.
Fr. We need better legal education in the world, the US especially.
Emily yelling at Rottenborn immediately when he starts talking is too funny 😂 I only started watching when Amber testified and she was so careful to be impartial.
“Why is a raven like a writing desk?”is a Mad Hatter riddle lol
I really understood when he was talking about hearing something so much as a child you start to believe it. I was told I was stupid from age 8-10 and it’s still hard for me to not see myself that way.
‘Once you’ve chewed on it for a couple of years, it becomes difficult to swallow’ I think that explains why he brought the case - he’d had enough.
He has definitely been in therapy and been educated in domestic violence and the cycle of violence. Even though he rambles etc. He appears so sincere and self depreciating.
The email, even if they were about Amber - would only be a way to let out his frustration and letting off steam etc.
I think that the major reason JD sued after this article is because she claimed she was the survivor of SA. Even her one lawyer in the opening said that JD SA’ed her several times during the marriage and described an alleged incident with a liquor bottle…
This is what Johnny said that made the court laugh; “I'm so pathetic when it comes to knowing what movies I've done," Depp, 58, said on the stand with a smile. "I'm sorry. I just, I don't watch them. I feel better not watching them. What was the question again?"
Thank you Stephanie the last part was difficult to hear
Love it! "If she is misrepresenting this, what else is she misrepresenting?" Exactly.
Can’t believe Rottenborn asked if he’d ever seen AH cut herself and then play a recording where she says “don’t cut yourself it doesn’t help trust me! “ 🤦🏼♀️
I never caught that!
I just found you but I will listen to you this afternoon.......Rottenbottom drove me up the wall and NO he was NOT talking about a literal bloodbath or her hitting the wall...How stupid.
This was so much funnier to me considering how literally Rottenborn seems to take everything. Come back down off that wall. 😆
It's impossible now to see the live streams of this trial without you, you are the best!!🥰
Same went checked one of the channels Emily suggested and literally was just about to say eff this and the electricity went out and was out for couple hours. So just watched the news clips and read comments
51:36 Where I'm from "I've hit a wall" means I'm exhausted, I'm at the end of my endurance, that's it, time to stop, hit a hard limit, etc.
The more I listen to Johnny talking about how Amber would behave throughout the years, the more I get the impression that all her accusations of what Johhny would do to her would in reality actually be what she did to him...
Same
The surgeon’s knowledge that the damage to the finger could not confirm Depp’s statement or excuse at the ER is extremely important as evidence of Heard’s physical and emotional abuse. If that’s dismissed by Heard’s attorney and sustained by the judge as hearsay shouldn’t the Depp team bring in the surgeon as a witness?
I had missed some of this testimony and just reviewing this again I cannot believe their focus on the term 'bloodbath'. For me, it's often a term used if one football team completely beats the other, i.e, that match was a bloodbath!. This does not literally mean that one set of football players bludgeoned the other side and made them bleed! So frustrating listening to this again!
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All Johnny Depp needed to say in response to all those pre-Op Ed articles was, “yes, there were plenty of tabloid pieces about me over the years but none of them caused me to lose work as Ms. Heard’s article did. Which is why we’re here.”
I could not watch all of this trial WITHOUT your commentary Emily! It's so much fun and I am learning so much. Thank you!
“Let’s lock up every drug addict and alcoholic.” - Amber’s team’s strategy
Lol she'd be the first ushered into a jail cell then.
Amber would be locked up too then. 🤣
This is crazy how she recorded everything
Like she thought to herself. I will use these someday to ruin you. Otherwise why would you record so much ?
2:55:00 the monster JD says is 2 things. Him refusing to stop drinking alcohol/sobriety and him swearing at Amber in heated arguments AKA high blood pressure
They were PRIVATE texts to his friend Mr Bettney, Emily. The jury never forgot the question.
It really sounds like they both use physical words as metaphors for emotional wounds.
I know Rottenborn isn’t standing up there trying to use tabloid headlines to paint Amber as a Saint LMAOOOOO
Just in section 6, alone, of his contract for Pirates 4 & 5 he clearly had a major role in the films. He had to approve the costars, script, locations, directors. If he’s calling shots like that clearly Disney was not planning on axing him.
Afternoon Testimony with Depp Re-Direct and Ben King ua-cam.com/video/K1IUhQ8o_-I/v-deo.html
As a Junior High Teacher for 21 years, with 7 Periods/250 students/day, I had very frequent sore throats & larengitis! I drank hot lemon juice with honey, etc. Best wishes from Utah!
Bless your heart, those are very hard years.
Thank you, too!
Hit liquids always close your throat , let it cool down abit and then drink them lemon and hot lemon juice , get well ❤️🩹
When Depp said 'the monster was sobriety'. I think what he meant was the monster was -his battle with sobriety-. Everything that goes into it. The struggles with being sober. The depths of self-hatred, being gaslit, relapsing, being called a monster for not being able to stay sober, for being called basically a weak loser due to his addiction...all of this, it seems to be, falls under his umbrella of 'sobriety', ie: everything in his life that surrounds the discussion of sobriety. He's not being clear here tho, opening himself up for misinterpretation and he may have confused the jury.
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That’s the thing about narcissistic relationships, they don’t make sense! And we can’t make sense of them.
i come back to this every so often just to watch johnny tell rottenborn hes pathetic
I’m rewatching testimony & I don’t understand how they can just play audio but never ask him a question
I know this was days ago but he’s talking about building jack sparrow from the ground up. If I recall correctly. Even jack sparrow had said “never hit a women” being frustrated with Elizabeth
Anyone who is upset about how JD speaks, I would like to suggest a comparison. You come to a foreign country and you don't understand their language in full and no one understands you in full. But you really want to be understood. That's why JD speaks like this. He speaks a different language than we do. He speaks poetry and humor that we don't know and that's his normal language. And he is now trying to explain all this in our language and is also afraid of being misunderstood.
He has already made the experience that his statements did not lead to success, whether with Amber or in court in the UK. There he went out as a wifebeater. So yes, he is afraid and has difficulty communicating himself to us in a much more foreign language. But his brain works perfectly. I think it is even a bit superior to the normal mortal.
And on top of that, he is a victim of psychological and physical violence.
Juries don't like it when you're not nice to anyone on the stand.
Wow im so used to him speaking that i want to listen to him talk all the time ❤️❤️❤️❤️ also i feel its good for him to talk about his feelings finally.. he deserves to be heard poor little thing he breaks my heart
As a musician: as to what JD is talking about, yes. The left hand generally plays the frets/ the neck of the guitar. Also, I absolutely relate to JP as he talks about what playing means to him. I lost my voice in 2015. It was one of the most depressing years I've ever had. It felt as if I had nothing left at the worst of it. It took a long time for my voice to recover to any semblance of what it was before. I'm sure this was the same for JD. I doubt he would chop his own finger off.
Edit: I'm tired. I meant JD. Johnny Depp.
Who is JP?
@@Hamigal thanks for pointing this out. I meant JD. I fixed it.
@@Tinuvielthefair Good deal
I've been a guitar player for 2/3s of my life (im 29). Over the last ~3 years I've been struggling with chronic (?) tendinitis that still hasnt been definitively diagnosed/treated. It's getting worse, and it's to the point I haven't touched my guitars at all in 3+ months, and barely did for th 15+ months prior. Along with the tendinitis affecting/prohibiting my other hobbies. It gets to you after a while. It's physical discomfort, but also a huge emotional/mental toll having something so important "stripped away" from you. I 100% understand johnny's feelings about it.
And I can relate to his dark humor/sensationalism in those texts. I often joke/say that I'm just gonna chop my arm off because it'll get rid of the pain/take care of the problem. Do I genuinely mean I'm gonna cut my own arm off? no. It's a dark way of coping with a sensitive, distressing topic. It was definitely the same for him. Faced with a hugely impactful injury that takes away a huge part of you (even temporarily) can lead to some odd ways of coping. And like other things, Rottenborn tried too hard to say they were literal
i dont think his drug use at this point shows any ill will, he has been open about his illict and px misuse since the 1990s. Its well documented i think they tried to sterio type him throughout the trail so far, however in my experience, withdrawing patient are rarely violent more sorrowful and repentant in their actions, and his experience like others is different, some take the knock (or nod as he said). I have both personal and professional experiences of this, I also have experince of male dv victims and they will tell you anything to deflect from their partner just like woman its no different i also have personal, familiar and professional experience of both male and female victims. I do object to them making (what seems) a mockery of male DV when its very under reported in the UK.
Trying to link him to manson am suprised they didnt bring up river pheonix!! Makes a mockery of his experiences. Either way, JD has my utter respect, i do believe she goaded him into action at times, thats not to say he didnt respond, but with my professional experience of child trauma, misuse and adult trauma, adhd and add etc he presents, talks expresses in a way that i am very use too.
As a MH professional we are not always right, and i am constantly trying to rectify mistakes made from others and myself, we dont know everything or there would be no MH services left if we had the answers, the ICD and DSM are not 100% we dont have an xray to get it right💜🙏
Def didn’t think “blood bath” was literal. People use words that are exaggerated to make their point everyday.
What I gathered from monster is it had several meanings.
Monster in terms of addiction for Amber's labeling
Monster for sobriety
Monster as in losing verbal control, i.e. he wasn't proud of yelling back calling names etc.
I can’t with Johnny’s way of speaking😭 I have to take breaks because is so stressful. Poor jury that has to be sat there for hours
Oh. My. Gawd. She’s treating him like a dog “couch, couch, couch” 😳
He was answering questions with all of truth they had been keeping from the world.
Global recognition is VERY well deserved 👏
Thank you, Emily!!! Love the commentary. You clearly know the legal process!!! 🤗😘😃😃
did Rottenbomb seriously ask the judge to completely stop Depp's side from objecting on relevance? DUDE!
"this is a pathetic attempt" I mean he's not wrong. and then Rottenborn goes and proves it by refusing to move on when the judge has sustained numerous objections.
It's obvious that Johnny has been a long term drug/alcohol user, and in some circumstances, a drug abuser. It has altered how his mind works and how he conveys thoughts. You cannot expect short, concise answers from him as you would from someone who does not suffer from such after-effects.
That said, it does not make him an abuser or any type of bad person. It's just how he communicates and conveys his thoughts.
JD is SOooooo good in The Professor 👨🏫 ♥️
Not prepared AH team: exhibit drive, evidence weak, scattered, unintelligible, waste time disorganized
Emily I really appreciate you taking your time to sit there and explain to us! ❤️
Days ago when they read out the witch texts I realised the joke and since my brain keeps yelling, does she weigh the same as a duck though?
I figured it out the monster 8s the hurt, anger, sadness, that came when sober, when fighting with amber, when disapointed with himself for diinking or doing drugs
I didn't really watch the trial while it was happening, but I stumbled across this channel and coverage of it a couple of days ago so I decided to watch it now. I'm at the part in the redirect when they're discussing the writing on the mirror and Emily said that writing on the walls seems to be a weird response to having his fingertip taken off. My theory on it is this: she had come to Australia angry about the post-nup that Depp's lawyer had presented her with (if I remember the timing correctly). He was trying to escape her anger with his drinking and trying to ignore her, which made her even more angry. So she threw the bottles at him and it cut off his finger. At this point, Depp is likely under the influence of various substances. He's now in shock from a sudden, physically traumatic injury to his body while still on some level dealing with any number of negative emotions from both the current confrontation and whatever previous traumas the situation was triggering for him. And is still under the influence of substances. So in that state, with his brain not really being able to function or process the situation properly, it honestly makes sense to me that in his mind the only way to try and get her to listen to him and vent his anger and frustrations was to write it on the walls. He wasn't operating at full capacity at that point. It probably didn't even register in that moment "I need to get my finger treated". He was in pure reaction mode and his brain was trying to process and cope with everything but didn't know how to in that moment.
I've had situations as well where my trauma brain kind of took over and all rationality and reasonable thinking left the building so to speak. I haven't done the same kinds of things as Depp or gone to the same extremes, but I have checked out and done self-destructive behavior while on a sort of auto-pilot because at the time there truly felt like no other way to react to the situation. Things that, even after explaining myself, other people still don't fully understand and can't quite wrap their heads around. So as grotesque as it may sound to some, I really do understand why he would have drawn on the walls with his finger in that moment. Does that make it okay? No, it doesn't. It was still horrible and traumatic for not only himself but likely many other people involved in the incident. It is understandable how he would react that way though.
Walking away from an argument is something that I lived as well. My bf during an argument wants to take time off to think and calm down so that he doesn’t say anything mean to me. My previous long time relationship was really toxic and with my previous bf we would argue for hours and after me crying for hours, I would just get tired and would ask him can we please just stop, I cannot do this anymore. After that toxic arguing, my current bf’s approach was so different, in the beginning of our relationship, I wanted to continue discuss/argue but he would always take a step back which at that time would get me so anxious. But I realised his idea of calming down and discussing afterwards was the better option than yelling to each other for hours. After accepting that and learning to appreciate his way, we are doing so so so much better. We both know each other’s way of thinking and we don’t even argue anymore. After a horrible relationship, I had to learn how to be healthy and I am so glad to find an amazing person as my current bf. I didn’t even realised how damaged I was because of my previous relationship. So I can see Depp’s idea of walking away and calming down for further discussions. It is the healthy way.
I WISH I could use my glasses here and there like Amber. I either see or I don’t see relative to whether my glasses are in or off.
She might wear contacts the other days?