The fact that she repeatedly filmed him in secret and somehow *NEVER* managed to capture a single moment of him actually hitting her is very troubling.
There are small moments I think are true, after all it was a toxic co-dependent relationship where they were both abusive... BUT... I agree with you... she says he hit her with his rings on, hard enough for a drop of blood to hit the wall. Excuse me? You have pictures of 'bruises' as your proof... but say he hit you repeatedly over the years, bruising you over the years... he asks for a divorce and you TRO his ass while he is out of country and claim abuse. Nice move.
So my biggest question … if Johnny was trying to isolate and control her and such why did he let all her friends live right next door? Makes isolating pretty tough.
Exactly; she isolated him and the people around her. She kept them in a tight bubble. Had her friend and her friends boyfriend and her sister living right next to her. Keeps her victims close. And if you look at the pictures of Rocky and Whitney with Amber...they are just strange pictures. These people look damaged 😕
she was smart enough to take pics of Johnny to prove he had issues but when it came to taking pics of her injuries to document them, she suddenly couldn't think. How could anyone believe this bullshit?
I believe that she is kind of "on the set" for a movie here. It is easy to see when she have practiced what to say, and what is spontaneous. The way she looks at the jury is pretaught, almost like she is doing a roleplay. At least IMO 🤷🏼♀️
@@Deb501 I disagree. Deception irl is very different from acting on film and acting in theater. Also, liars don't lie because they're good at lying, but because they're morally corrupted.
@@Deb501that idea about actors being good liars is so funny to me. Actors prepare (sometimes for months) for a character, not only that but they have a script, directors who tell them how to portray the truth of the character better, rehersals, breaks, multiple takes, etc. Being on a stand, talking about your personal life while answering questions that you don't know specifically what they are going to be, is a very very different situation. As you can see here, even if you have months to prepare your testimony, if you are lying, if your story is false, it comes out that way.
“It didn’t hurt” are you kidding? Getting hit across the face hurts like hell, stings for a long time. He constantly wanted to have sex while going through drug withdrawals! That was by far for me the most ridiculous statement made so far. Anyone who has gone through withdrawals would know how extremely sick and dead your body is, you wouldn’t want sex if a gun was put to your head
I agree! The way that Johnny described his finger being cut off sounded way more credible. He said something like he couldn't feel it at first but then it felt hot - that is shock and endorphins, you don't say "it didn't hurt" I can understand wanting to bang *after* you've finished withdrawals, many of us substitute that for drugs and alcohol. But while you're going through it?! Absolutely the fluck not.
Nah, but you have to jack it feebly until it runs dry 1000 times. Something about withdrawal makes it a necessity. Lasts 2 seconds and isnt enjoyable, but it does somehow help for a second. That said, no full on smash sesh. That's energy a dude doesn't have when in the thick of it. Just pathetic microsecond long jacks while laying there almost dead. Kicking sucks.
I could believe it if she said, "it didn't hurt at first, then the pain started setting in" or "I felt like I blacked out, then it really started to hurt" I honestly don't believe he ever hit her the way she explains it. When you get hut, especially by a man, in the FACE, that HURTS.
Her testimony just proves Dr. Curry’s’ diagnosis was accurate 100% Histrionic Personality Disorder : defined by overly dramatic and very theatrical acts, intense unstable emotions, distorted self image. Emphasis on the very dramatic and theatrical acts
Yes, and she needs help. People with personality disorders can get better. Seems Johnnie's therapist told him to doodle to cope under stress. It's an artist's way of using their emotions. I believe that's why he wrote on the walls and mirrors, not because he was on illicit drugs, but because it was his "artistic" way of dealing with an insufferable woman and situation.
@@TzokoliT I agree and he d hardly be beating someone and then drawing. Or drawing and then beating someone. It seems it was his only outlet.. that and playing guitar or else walking away.jmo
I was there in court those days. Camille was AWESOME! I also sat next to Johnny and his team's driver and during the breaks he was like "Maam, can I ask you what you think of everything shes saying up there??" I was like, Well I think shes a lunatic! Shes offending almost every woman in the courtroom with these lies because most of us have ACTUALLY been through Domsetic violence or sexual assault at some point." He was so relieved to hear me say that. And she was staring at the poor jury the entire time, yet they were NEVER looking at her. Faces literally buried in the screens they had or taking notes. It was BIZARRE.
The way she emphasized "Like a baby" when she said Johnny had to be carried inside. It's so obviously meant as a micro-aggression. I hope the jury remembers that.
So many of these! The disparaging narrative that makes everything all his fault and her a reluctant and completely innocent participant in the relationship is classically the way an abuser will retell the story.
The sad thing is, I'm starting to feel sorry for her because as narcissistic as she is, with proper therapy now knowing her personality disorder, she can wake up, make changes, and improve her life and relationships. No one in this case is a winner. But, it is good closure for the sake of Johnnie's kids. I'm not a Johnnie fan but now I'm seeing that he is one of those actors who is trying because experience showed he failed many times.
@@ajahanna6293 I couldn't stand listening to Dr. Hughes. It didn't make sense, it was confusing, redundant long words, too fast.... I hope she doesn't come back.
And she said finally. I felt this was his rockbottom. And I felt everyone was on the same page this being his rockbottom. That he would be finally getting help. I think rockbottom is for the person that is struggling. Not her feelings that this was his rockbottom.
Replay crew: If Elaine is well respected for being someone who settles lots of cases, there must be a lot of attorneys watching this wishing they'd just gone to court.
Hard for her attorneys to prove truth when all they have is her lies to work with !... Theyve got a hell of a job to defend this person as they have no real evidence except for doctored photos...so they have to "believe" what amber says...!....
That explains why Elaine doesn’t seem to realize how irritating she is. I wonder how the jury is responding to her. Based on how JD’s attorneys are acting, the subdued way they object, how they don’t attack witnesses aggressively, that they read that the jury does not like how Elaine acts. At this point Elaine’s voice triggers annoyance in me.
That explains a lot. I've been saying since the trial started that she doesn't seem to have a lot of trial experience and it sounds like she probably doesn't.
"I'm being used" Johnny literally has everything, and yet he was so humble and down to earth. he even backs away at fights and never hurt her. The audacity of this woman lmfaoooo
Guys with everything can use and exploit a woman women with money can do the same to poor and young men. I’m not saying Amber is not guilty of what’s she’s being accused of. I’m just pointing out ppl with a lot are more likely actually to exploit those with less.
@@mobalias Correct but doesn’t have his kind of money can’t live his life style without him. It would be like someone making $40,000 a year and someone making $250,000 a year. Although she has some chunks of money again nothing near his fortune. Guarantee you Ambers not drinking those two $500 dollar bottles of wine a day like she did with him. That’s $360,000 a year her mere $10 million would be gone in no time. I think it’s rude she though just cause he was way richer then her it was ok to blow his money. That kind of wine just like Crystal isn’t something you can drink daily. Even for millionaires expensive drinks like that are for occasion’s or weekends only. That’s how millionaires go broke shit adds up if wine bill alone was $360,000 a year imagine all other things. In their short relationship she spent $14 million of his money more then she’s worth. You can’t just blow through money cause you are a millionaire that’s how you get broke again.
Her testimony sounds like an audition tape for a role for a lifetime movie mixed with an interview for an editorial. She tends to skip over anything that may look bad on her or that she can't word right to make JD look bad. And the way she keeps talking straight to the jury is like she's talking to the audience of a talk show
I heard someone say her testimony looks more like an actress trying too hard to play the role of Amber Heard in a Lifetime movie. That's exactly how I feel.
I would be weirded out of I was on the jury! She stares at some of them (probably the ones she thinks is buying her story) for WAY too long. I have a sis just like her and I KNOW what Amber is. Her lies are so vague and all over the place. She changes the story when she thinks people aren't buying it.
Little detail, LOTS of fluff. Huge sign of lying. She says these small insignificant things with lots of drama and then goes into things that don’t matter. Very hallow answers. Can’t wait to see her cross examined when she MIGHT have to actually answer some of her contradictions.
Are you talking about how they object to hearsay or leading. And then her Amber heards lawyer continues with another leading care say question and Albert continues to hearsay. But Johnny Depp‘s team does an object again even though they could? Is that what you’re talking about? Sorry I’m just trying to understand
@@Herstyleseduier think what they mean is that they only object when amber mentions hearsay(bec that could corroborate her testimony) but they don't object to anything She says when telling her story, they let her go on and on to let her dig a hole for herself, bec once she brings up certain things it opens the door for lawyers to dispute it.. and they have a lot of evidence that disputes her claims -thus it becomes her story vs everyone else.
The idea that Johny wouldn't let her have jobs that sexualized her or that she stopped taking roles if they had a sex scene, kissing, or revealing clothing is utter bull. Syrup, Magic Mike, Paranoia, The Ward, and Three Days to Kill are just a few movies she did while married to him that included all of those things.
20:00 Yes - JD gave AH career advice. He was put in a box of being the “hot, teen heartthrob” early on in his career. IMO JD was giving advice on how to be successful- by taking a variety of roles - instead of always being cast as “the hot girl” with kissing and sex scenes. He wasn’t being controlling he was helping her succeed. If AH wanted to be viewed as more than just “the hot girl” she had to dress and act the part - that’s why JD was helping her with her wardrobe // reviewing scripts, etc. and she knows
@@theRealSara exactly. As well as saying do not go to a concert with your costars and give the gossip columns fodder. That is because he's lived under the glare of the paparazzi and rumors for a long time. He's knows it causes friction in the relationship and at work.
Honestly, Amber's lawyers not understanding what hearsay is and constantly telling amber how to testify made this incredibly difficult to watch and felt very dishonest.
Also, my ex husband was an opiate addict. When he went through withdrawal he could barely pick himself up from the bed, couch or bathroom floor. If Johnnys was going through withdrawal on the plane I don’t think he’d have the strength to kick her. Opiate withdrawal is painful and practically debilitating.
this also really surprised me. If it was any severe detox but ESPECIALLY opiate withdrawal he would not have been able to chase her around the house and throw her onto things like she's describing. Opiate withdrawal is one of the worst pains and most debilitating bodily illnesses you can experience, especially since a lot of addicts haven't felt pain of even normal severity in the years they were using so have 0 tolerance. Also, the concept that any doctor would be ok with him genuinely detoxing with only his new wife to supervise is.... untenable, no matter how much of a yes man she's claiming he was. People die from detox. Suggesting someone do it as part of a vacation with only non medical personel for long periods between "check ins" is begging for a malpractice suit. Honestly this testimony even made me rethink her characterization of the severity of his addiction not just his actions, which wasn't something I was questioning before.
even for me being completely teetotal, it would be hard to kick a person in the back either because of my mediocre flexibility or my clumsiness, so how could Johnny do it without falling or losing his balance? It doesn't makes sense
I was addicted to opiates for many many years. He might have gotten pissy…probably because she was pushing his buttons. But you most definitely don’t have the strength to do what she’s claiming.
The fact that people die from detox makes me think that’s what she was hoping for by denying his medication. I mean that’s just my thought.. there’s some moments that seem like things were heading in that direction, but that’s just my thought.
Oh my god yes! Had a lot of oxy after surgery, granted not an addict at all. But coming off it, I remember barfing, diarrhea, feeling feverish, staying in bed. hm 🤔
Her testimony ia so unbelievable. She talks about music being such a big thing in her life, goes to concerts, dates musicians and artists, but isn't sure what "a single" is?
She's lying say a broken Nose without anyone seen it if look on a fight and see how look like are not Look nice are face get swell up and are no make up in world hide that and can not breath from nose need doctor to out in pipes in nose so breath not get problem later from take Weeks to heal so none has seen that and say everything That was in movie set and that not a week after are Impossible to miss that
I felt uncomfortable during Johnny's testimony because I could feel his pain, and embarrassment, and sadness. I feel uncomfortable during Amber's testimony but I cannot put my finger on why. I feel repulsed.
I’ve been assaulted (2 head punches, in Baker Square, after being kept in the house for a couple of hours) and my policy is to believe the weaker/less social clout of the two. But I agree-my stomach starts twisting as she starts describing, and sometimes as she’s kind of smirked during his or others’ testimony. She makes my hair stand on end and I keep wondering how many women will be Not believed because of her-especially in Britain.
@@wylldflower5628 I am really sorry you had to go through such horrible violence. And as you said my policy is also to believe the weaker/less socially powerful party. And Johnny Depp is probably the only exception to this rule. And it is damn pitiful that the most public and high profile case (if we do not count Weinstein - but even that did not receive hour by hour live streaming watched by millions) is the one in which a woman seems to be a lying. The damage to any future victim (and the vast majority of victims are women) is irreparable.
@@lenusniq_9746 I think the one takeaway I’m (relatively) happy about is that I know zero women who believe her and the level of discomfort in listening to her seems quite consistent. For me when I like his roles I really enjoy him but while I think he’s a very unique actor, not all of his movies appeal to me and he’s not my favorite actor. Still, I believe his testimony, and hers so far just puts me on edge and makes me balk. But if the world sees, and can trust their judgement, I’m hopeful that will be a good thing in the long run.
I'm rewatching this testimony after watching The Behavior Panel talk us through some parts of this testimony and they explain exactly why you feel uncomfortable with Amber's testimony... ...in short.. ...it is because she's essentially talking sh!t and you're sensing it You should give it watch...it is quite interesting if you're into that kinda thing... ..fair warning... ..it spans over a few episodes and they go long.. ..but still... ...interesting
I watched her full testimony yesterday… What struck me was that, even from the very start of the relationship (prior to the reported descent to extreme abuse), she was photograping him sleeping/zonked, photos of drugs, photos of this and that… We have no real context for why he is falling asleep in his chair. Yes - he has major substance abuse problems and a temper, but he was also putting in long, physical days on sets. I.e.: context?!? Also, that he was with a partner who was documenting negative things from the start…this makes me very sad.
Because she always had an agenda to use and abuse JD. If he had sexually and physically abused her then given her MO there would have been video/photo evidence. She also has selective memories and her testimony lacks cohesion.
Considering how mocking, condescending and arrogant she appeared in her previous deposition and interviews, I actually have a feeling she was taking the pictures to show her enabling, free-loading friends as in, “look at that old loser, ah!” Same with the “bruise” photos, which are in the typical injection sites for Botox and fillers. I have a feeling she took those to beyatch at the injector but later went, “hmmm, these could be used in a different context to my advantage”... (you have photos of minimal bruising on your face but none of you sliced up feet “flailing over broken bottles”? Uh-uh. Kay. 🤥 I hope they’ll address the fact that she conveniently denies access to her cloud and cell phone records... She is obviously very materialistic, look at the expression in her face when she keeps bringing up all his material possessions and that “giant diamond ring”. I mean, if you were abused to the point of ptsd, wouldn’t you want to get as far away from triggers as possible? Yet, as part of the divorce, she was demanding that she and her enabling free loading posse keep living rent-free in those penthouses?? 🤔💀🔪🤥
Yup - blackmailing people is clearly her Modus Operandi - she's done it to Elon Musk, Johnny Franco, Leo DiCaprio, and I''m not sure if she has blackmailed Jason Momoa, but she certainly seduced him and is an expert "homewrecker!"as she is with most wealthy men! And what about stealing the embryos that her and Elon created? She asked if she could use one, I THINK he took her to court about it as he didn't want to have any children with her after they split up. Somehow, she found a loophole (she probably threw a vodka bottle at the Laboratory Manager and threatened to cut his finger off if he did not hand it embryo over hahah) and had the embryo implanted in a surrogate therefore Elon would be 9 months months behind the pregnancy and be none the wiser about the stolen embryo! How much Child Support would one of the wealthiest men in the world have to pay??
Also, does anyone get the sense that when Camille let's amber drone on and on and on there's an awkwardness to her monologue. Like amber has no idea.what to say but she's being allowed to keep droning and talking and it's really awkward because she's begging for someone to object so she can break because it's so hard thinking on her feet 😂
AH reminds me of a kid that is looking for visual clues that the lie she just told was believed. She will keep rambling until she gets that confirmation or she is stopped from talking.
@@czhaok Thats a good point! I think Amber's mental health diagnosis is in alignment with the propensity to be dodgy and get out of predicaments and even tell straight up lies (I've known others with BPHD) but it's usually quick and they are off running so to speak. But in this case Amber can't just quickly lie then avoid everything so her lie just gets worse and worse and more unbelievable. She never thought she'd have to do this in a courtroom. She's used to never being held accountable for the damage she causes.
She does not take responsibility for anything in this relationship. She is constantly trying to make herself out to be some kind of angel and; Johnny was a constant monster. It's really hard for me to believe that everyone is lying to one person. It is even more difficult for me to believe that she had time to take pictures of him sleeping and passing out, but she doesn't have any recordings of him berating her. It is difficult for me to believe that she doesn't have one of these witnesses that she speaks of to testify yet. Then she outlines these horrific stories abuse but no photos.
I think that sticks out to a lot of people--in the recordings, you hear her berate him and instigate a lot, but in her retelling, she's always the meek little mouse who's always tiptoeing around his unpredictable temper. What really stood out to me, was the video where she came into his slamming the cabinets, and she's asking him 'What happened? What happened? Babe, what happened?". It's not in a tone of someone asking their partner why their upset and trying to understand, so they can try to calm them down, like, 'hey babe, what's wrong? what's got you so upset? Is there anything I can do to help?'... her tone sounds more like she's goading him. All these witnesses, pictures, or recordings...and nothing of him hitting her, or hell, even swinging at her. Especially after the 'main' incident, no pictures of her feet all torn up, no video of him waving his self-inflected bloody finger at her, just a few pictures 'a few days later' (and then some more after a few more days) of some bruises, and some barely bruises on her face, in all of which she's wearing the same shirt. Which yeah, bruises change/develop over time, but... Her whole story just doesn't add up.
@@fallen0angel yeah and there is 1 recording after she filed the TRO where he's asking her to fix all this in a joint statement after she screwed him over but all she cares about is her credibility, her reputation-with no regard to his & not ONCE does she say its bec he did anthing wrong .. She literally says she hurt him due to fear of his reaction to things she did to him.. That pretty much solidified it for me... you dont say or do that if you love someone. Plus all the inconsistencies with her version of events, the fact her stories all paint him as the only aggressor and her the innocent angel we know shes nit from the audio, its not real and her story has holes where you can tell something is missing. Its not just she said/he said, it's her version VS literally everyone else's and the fact she has no proof. Not everyone that didn't see her bruises was a Depp employee, the police didn't even know who her husband was at that time and why on earth would the door man lie for him? I get its her testimony and some things are plausible but most just doesn't ring true, the more exaggerated the claims, the kore you have to back it up... i would think her lawyers would tell her to tone it down a bit. Honestly, I thought she would go with the mental abuse claims, @least she has audio of the name calling (from both sides) instead of doubling down on the Physical stuff that she has no real time proof they even existed. 🙄 As far as her notifying people of the injuries, I hope they have to describe the marks on her because although she did notify people, like Isaac and the make up artist, they both stated they saw nothing there. It's all very Gone Girl, I'm surprise she didn't write a fake journal. IDK, I suppose it depends on how the jury defines abuse but if they see all these seemingly huge exaggerationsthat everyone else sees, then they should take everything else she says with a grain of salt.
Very good point. Johnny duri g his testimony was truthfull about his drugs, about loosing his temper and hitting kitchen cabinets . The only thing he denies doing is physically abusing his manipulative, sadistic psychopath of an ex-wife. But Heard absolutely takes no responsibility for her acts, none! Everything she has done is somehow Depp's falt everytime. That does not sit right with me at all, besides the rest of the things that we notice.
@@sandraaudette8949 Sticking to emotional abuse would have made such a stronger case against him. I too have no doubts that parts of her story are true--it looks like things got really nasty between them--but anything that has to do with him causing her any physical harm falls completely flat. I can look past the no-tears-'crying', and the lack of any tone change when her voice breaks, AND even the almost immediate composure when another question is asked, trauma effects everyone differently, but nothing in her stories adds up. Both to her own 'evidence', or anyone else's. If he was holding her hostage for three days, but within the first day he's 'blacked out', like apparently so often happened, why couldn't she leave then? And yes, while a lot of abuse victims won't seek medical attention, for a multitude of reasons, she had her own private nurse! She could have made up some 'we got drunk and kinky and maybe it got a little out of control' or something. Which absolutely sucks, because this type of shit isn't something you lie about, and not enough people are believed when it actually happens to them. People die at the hands of their partner because 'he was such a nice guy' or 'she was the perfect wife'. I also find it hard to believe that early on she told her mom about it, and she didn't do anything, like 'Oh no. We'll let's just hope he doesn't do anything like that again.' Granted, my daughter's only a year old, but I cannot imagine her telling me that her partner was smacking her around, and me not doing anything about it. I don't even care about 'celebrity' news, but this whole thing is infuriating, and it's great to see Johnny not only get to tell his story, but clear his name as well. Sidenote: I feel like I need to read/watch Gone Girl now because I keep seeing people point out the very strong similarities.
As a husband, I would not want my wife going into my house alone with a guy like amber did with James Franco. That is not normal. She acts like Johnny should’ve been fine with that. And I honestly doubt she even told Johnny that he was going to be there.
I agree! First, I wouldn't want anyone to know I'm seeing a therapist; second, I wouldn't introduce my therapist to friends & family; third, was that a ploy by AH so that the therapist could watch & study JD? Did AH anger JD so that the therapist could confirm(?) JD's behavior? Sounds like something AH would do; manipulation to the hilt!
It’s unprofessional and her therapist should have said “no”. My therapist actually told me not to be hurt if she sees me in the real world and doesn’t acknowledge me unless I acknowledge her first. It’s not a good look.
@@phatpharm06 I think that is the standard for all therapists. They only will acknowledge you after you do first because of patient confidentiality. But I can't see them just attending a wedding for fun. It would break the client/provider boundaries.
@@1ACL What was the context for that anyways? In what world would a doctor do that and not lose his license for inappropriate behavior? Did she report him?
This poor creature has no core "self". She is just stringing together odd bits from movies, books, perhaps other relationships, projections-- just making it up as she goes along, and the longer it goes the more obvious its story-telling. Its just over the top! Keep going!
The only poor thing here is Johnny :/ Guy is exhausted from work and tries to sleep - but gets a photo taken and is claimed to have passed out from "abuse".
It's a little unnerving how similar to Gone Girl the Makers Mark bottle insert is... The most jarring part is when she tells the truth: JDs jealousy ('don't do sex scenes'/'why are you hanging around with James Franko' etc) and the destruction of property (JD destroying the phone & throwing her clothes down the stairs, but not hurting anyone). She speaks so much more fluidly/quickly about the jealousy & property destruction versus the physical/sexual abuse, which feels like a poorly acted performance (the dramatic pauses, the sorrowful looks towards the jury, the absence of tears). I really hope she isn't lying about the sexual & domestic abuse. Because, holy smokes, what a damaging thing to do to real survivors.
5 minutes in to her testimony, I don't believe a word she's saying. Everything is random, she's all over the place. All these disjointed words and thoughts. She feels like the luckiest girl in the world to be marrying him but she's been taking pictures of him drunk, passed out, threatening her? No. Absolute liar.
Exactly, I was just thinking that. Fucking shamelessly, under oath, in the same room as someone you're accusing of being sexually assaulted by violently and in such a gross way, knowing it's literally based off pure imagination..which is scary, maybe that's her fetish. She WiSHeS he had jit her, then she could have taken him for everything..she's jealous of his daughter too, I wonder if that was the reason she tried to take him down (because she knew it would affect his daughter in a huge way )
Yeah, once you realize that a person can lie so easily to your face or whoever, it really changes things. It shakes your core morals and values, you may even have a permanent change in how you view things in the world.
Hmmm. Ms Heard took pictures of her husband in awkward and humiliating positions but she did not take pictures of her cut up feet or her other injuries she spoke of. Did I miss these?
Don’t forget the broken nose and being punched in the face countless times and being flung around like a rag doll and cut arms and feet because of all the broken glass, & of course having a bottle repeatedly forced into her vagina! That girl would have been a complete mess & would have had to be hospitalised .
Yeah and that's love? Taking pics of ur hubby in compromising positions or provoking him when he's at his worst then recording the reaction when he got upset.. what a loving caring wife she was! I hope the jury gets to see the photo of her doing scenes for Dutch Girl, dancing around in a leotard with bare feet right after she supposedly got her ass kicked and her feet cut up with all the Glass he dragged her through in Australia-Smh..the only person with documented injuries in this relationship was JD!
Yup I knew someone that was the picture queen Yet didn't have 1 picture of the alleged abuse... she completely reminds me of Amber (in behavior) fear of abandonment manipulative liar... im wondering if she has the same disorder as Amber...its disgusting behavior
The pictures of him literally just sleeping are so creepy to me. It reminds me of my abusive ex who would take pictures/video of my reactions to his abuse to use out of context. Like she was just trying the whole time to record things that she could use to kind of look suspicious, and since none of the pictures are particularly shocking she just has a metric ton of pictures of him asleep sitting up, which older men do all the dang time, but she's trying to make it seem so sinister. She shows a picture of him asleep with a little blanket on and is like "yes this is when he was accusing me of having affairs" which... excuse me, how is this evidence of that?... honestly very sad.
Exactly! Like the poor guy is as old as my dad and it wouldn't be hard for me to gather a hundred pictures of him sleeping various places at various times, after work(or yard work) and a burbon to relax he's out like a light 😂 but according to amber heard that would be him On a bEnDeR PaSsEd oUt
I think the judge is being super patient in order to close appeal gaps. She's over-compensating for AH's lawyer, who could, IMHO, be considered incompetent.
Her dramatic tales about how much she adored those children was weird. Johnny said his kids wanted nothing to do with her. She has lied about everything
Both her parents were addicts? But, they also both held jobs, her mum worked for a govt agency, so wouldnt have been poorly paid...! She kept saying she supported her family....! What a crock
She has secret audio recordings of him moaning when he was "drunk", but no recordings of him threatening to kill her, screaming at her, calling her vile names?.......I have questions
The level of abuse she alleges simply isn't reflected in the evidence she provides. Heard took pictures of minor injuries, like when she had a cut on her lip she alleges Depp did. However, she has no pictures or medical reports of the horrific abuse she alleges. Heard described in court how Depp broke her nose, pinned her down on glass leaving her arms, feet and back 'all cut up' and the horrific bottle incident. After these extreme acts of violence, that person would almost certainly require medical help.
As one who has lived years of the worst IPV , I didn't believe a word she said. It may have had elements of half truths but the story itself was created in her mind to win this case and her reputation back. When I started to talk about my experiences I came across with no emotion, I had to separate myself from the memories in order to vocalize my experiences. Others I know physically broke down, they didn't go from falling apart to fine to falling apart like this. The over dramatization mixed with SO MANY descriptions of her feelings and details and then say she can't remember in between, rings terribly untrue. Narcissists, sociopaths... CAN lie about things this swrious and create elaborate stories that never end, just to get sympathy or ruin someone. I found no sincerity in any of her testimony, I literally can't wait to hear cross examination!!
It's getting really old how people, like yourself, are constantly saying things like "When I would talk about my DV, I was very emotional consistently", or "barely able to talk", etc. Everyone is different. Every situation is different. You can't paint everyone with such a broad brush. Or expect them to say and do the same things others have. I was in a very abusive relationship/marriage for over 2 decades. When I finally filed for divorce, I was able to keep it together, even though I was nervous AF. My Attorney told me not to show emotion, and to only speak when asked a question. Some days I was all over the place. Some days not being able to remember certain things. Some days angry, sad, frustrated, afraid, you name it! Insert every emotion there is when you're re living such a nightmare for so long. 15 yrs have passed and it still affects me. Of course I'm in a much better place now than I was back then. I did question some things/actions during direct, but I don't know her personally. I'm not Amber Heard. Her story is different than mine, and probably yours. Different people, different backgrounds, different personalities, different situations, etc. It seems that she has tried to move on, yet Depp keeps dragging her back to court. That has to be frustrating as shite.
Specially the one description of the filthy carpet and also the detailed description of her breath on the “ window of the door of the car “ 😬 The intensity with which she is describing the alleged assaults - should have made her look like battered up.
Dude she seriously took audio of him in pain detoxing and saying he’s howling and being abusive. Oh my god she exploited everything there was to exploit about him. Just wow. What an awful person. I can’t believe how much I’m commenting on this she’s unbelievable I can’t imagine what he went through if I’m exhausted watching her testify in court and he did this for years. No wonder he drinks and does drugs.
Yea she had so much time taking photos and audios instead of being proactive lol. To me, she appears to be someone who is vengeful. If I love and care for someone, I definitely would not do that. Invading privacy. I feel she had planned all of this.
Plus the fact making noises like that in general is super common with people with neurodivergencies especially when in stressful situations (stimming). Like if someone filmed me everytime I was going "Aaaaaaa" just because I like the way it feels in my throat or would probably look pretty damn concerning too
I'm on opiates for RSD. I have withdrawal feelings if I take my medication late. I could not imagine being so addicted to pain pills and having to detox. That is something I have always feared being on pain pills for 15 years so I take them only when I have to which is daily but try not to every 12 hours. But boy my body starts feeling so weird that I have to take a pill even if I feel pain wise I'd be ok to wait. I feel for Johnny and everyone that has to detox off pain meds.
Who really does that if she wasn't planning on doing this or blackmailing him from the start? Who would want to humiliate their partner by recording them detoxing?
I will absolutely scream bloody murder if the jury doesn't see through this woman's terrible acting. I believe maybe 15% of what she has said and that 15% is the part where he bought her tons of gifts and treated her like a princess and he did drugs. I don't believe a word of the abuse. I think even the verbal abuse is being cherry picked to a ridiculous degree.
They have to pick ⛏️ apart the verbal abuse for at least 2 reason: there is no physical abuse and they're trying to hide or diminish the verbal abuse from her. I can think of other reasons but that's what popped into my head 😂 when I read the comment.
I also wanna note as someone who was in a physically and verbally abusive relationship, I eventually got to the point where I too called my abuser a number of horrible things after he put me through hell so I am completely sympathetic to anything Johnny spat her way since it has been proven he was directing it towards his abuser 😓
I think she even lied about the drugs and drinking a bit. Yes, he clearly has substance abuse issues. That's a given. But she has exaggerrated his use in some ways and downplayed or omitted her role in exacerbating his issues at other times. At one point she says he took 8-10 pills because she "did the math" to figure that out. Her lawyer then asks whether he took that many or that's how many were left. Obviously, Amber had gone off script from what they discussed. In one of the many recorded arguments, Amber tries to drink fron JD's wine glass when she has her own. He tells her their relationship has gone past the time when they could share glasses. She freaks out of course. It sounds like he gives her his glass and takes hers. Someone pointed out that his speech starts to slur DURING the convo. She may have done the whole thing just to get him to take her glass into which she slipped something. She uses his under-the-influence behavior as an attack on his character, but how much of that behavior was because she plied him with or secretly laced his food/drink with additional substances?
The way she scrunches her face up in disgust when she’s describing how much she loves johnnys kids 😂🥴 she scares the crap outta me. She would happily push them off a cliff when nobody’s looking, I can feel it. She definitely has Cinderella step mother vibes.
She couldn’t care less about his children she’s mentioning them to get a rise from JD. It’s how narcissists work. They antagonise and antagonise with what they know goes to the heart of the other person. Then the other person reacts in anger and they say see look they’re crazy!
Dr. Curry was on freaking point with her! I don’t believe a word she is saying. No tears, no real emotion, just emptiness. She is just saying what she thinks other victims would say. Getting slapped hurts and you would remember that feeling. She’s pathetic and a liar!
Ya she says it didn't hurt her. She felt nothing. Even after she was raped by a bottle didnt feel pain and bleeding the next day she didnt feel anything! My ass! She just wanted to leave that stuff out.
I don't at all support Amber Heard, but as someone with mental health issues and many abusers over the years, there comes a point where you just run out of emotion to put forth.
The worse is that the woman have no limits, everything is open every intimate part of their lives. She is so finished in Hollywood and what man will trust her ever?
Did anyone else notice when AH talked about JD's first marriage proposal she made the comment about getting butterflies "under her skin" which I thought was a really weird thing to say then she talked about the second proposal and only showed genuine happiness when she talked about the "humongous" diamond ring. I really believed she was happy when she got that ring!
Yeah like it kinda grossed her out? Made me think of someone saying they feel like they have bugs crawling on their skin but oooooh a giant diamond! $$$$$$ shes a gross human being
Yeah, *weird* is exactly how i described it too. It is like she's never had a genuine feeling and she's using a common expression, but got it laughably wrong.
I commented this somewhere else. She showed disgust and anger during his first proposal but was only genuine when she talked about the ginormous diamond at the second one. The "Goldigger" song immediately came into my head when I saw her pleasure at remembering that.
The reason there were two proposals is because the first time the ring he had (the ring he showed Savanah Guthrie in an interview where he first reveals he's engaged to amber) she was unhappy with how small it was so he kept the damn thing and wore it himself and bought the humongous diamond ring she got so excited about the second go round.
I watched her testimony live, now I’ve come back to watch with Emily’s commentary. At about 2.30 Emily says “something about this is odd”, i don’t think Emily could have imagined just how odd it was about to get.
Looking back at it now it’s even funnier. Especially watching dr Hughes testimony and Emily being outraged about it and knowing Dr Spiegel would be coming up 😂
Amber is “effectively” showing a great example of flight of ideas. Giving long winded responses jumping from one thought to next and still managing to not answer the questions asked.
listening to her testimony after depp's team's psychologist perfectly illustrated the mannerisms and vocabulary and mental gymnastics she would do is uncanny...
Side note- If you watch The Rum Diaries- she's a lot like her character. I have a copy of it, but only watched it once years ago. I rewatched it the other day- after their characters meet, Johnny's character said, "Oh God. Why did she have to happen? Just when I was doing so good without her. " truer words were never spoken!
Johnnys character in London fields also says to her face “do you have a personality disorder, narcissist ? “ you could tell he was living for that line.
I and also, she said, and I quote: “ we were walking out of the bedroom, and Johnny slapped me IN THE FACE, and I TURNED TO LOOK AT HIM”. No shit. She seriously said that
I don't believe for a second any of johnnys security would do nothing if he was beating on her. They all seemed professional decent guys I don't care he was their boss they wouldn't allow it
When they asked his security guy if he’d ever physically seen Johnny do drugs other than weed and he answered with “no, he would never embarrass me like that” makes me feel like the security guy wouldn’t stand for any shenanigans reguardless of how big of a star Johnny is. So I highly doubt he would watch him beat his wife and not do or say something…
Ok, she was asking him on advice for her career. She wanted to know how to become a Meryl Streep and not Pam Anderson. So when he questions her outfit or roles/auditions it’s because SHE ASKED FOR HIS GUIDANCE. Rightly so, he has navigated his film choices quite well. So for her to turn it around afterwords to make it a controll thing, like he’s a terrible man ,instead of the helpful input SHE ASKED FOR is maddening!!! Such a manipulative sick move
For such a short relationship, this is the longest, most drawn out relationship ever. From this testimony, I think her frustrations about her career are because she didn't get roles because she isn't at all a good actress, and like the doctor stated, she blames everything on another. The fact her only large role gotten has been Aquaman, which Depp set up, shows that, both he helped her career and the only major role she's ever gotten was as a favor for him, not on her talent or merit.
He had a HUGE influence on her career & she's PISSED now that she's going to have to go back to pulling herself up by her own bootstraps. This is likely why she was sleeping with Elon.
Amber wanted to be a "humanitarian" after meeting angelina jolie, friend of johnny. She copies others personalities.. she just needed a case to fight for. And choose feminism.....
I can’t imagine being in a relationship where my spouse is spending so much time taking photos of me SLEEPING and just recording everything I do..it’s giving manipulation vibes and I’m not into this at all. It’s scary honestly x
Yes it is weird that your abuser would invite your "BFF" to live near you or with you cause one of the first things is to alienate you from your support group to control you.
Did she say she stared him down on the plane for embarrassing her? Never have I ever heard of an abuse victim staring down their abuser. That would certainly not diffuse or stop the abuse. It would be a hard push on the escalation button.
I think she says those things because she wants to appear like she is 'hard' it reminds be of those bully type people you get in every town where they have a reputation of don't mess with me and fighting. She is talking out of both sides of her mouth. She even said "you should see her" when a photographer asked her why her foot was in a cast, wtf. She is weird.
Her testimony doesn’t line up with the experiences of other DV victims or the detox process of addicts or SO of addicts. No one wants sex deep into detox. The nerves feel like they’re on fire is how it’s been explained to me
OMG Elaine literally brought up the point that “she never went anywhere without makeup on” and she just said no makeup cause of him…. Wth is wrong with these people.
I think she keeps narrating emotions (ie. "I know it's confusing, but," "I know it doesn't make sense, but," "It sounds silly, but," etc.) for a couple of reasons. 1. To appear more endearing and relatable to the jury 2. She wants to evoke agreement in the jury's mind. And 3. She wants to create an overall more believable narrative by covering her bases. She acknowledges gaps and things that don't exactly seem to make sense to try to appear more honest and forthcoming.
This is how borderlines operate. They want you to see and agree with the fantasy that they’ve created and in order to do that, you HAVE TO be a part of (participant in) their delusion. So she tells you what to think/ feel and presents it as if it’s fact.
3:12:21 “I use it with my kids all the time. What happened at school today? ‘I’m bored’ Objection: non responsive.” That made me laugh so much. Love it!
She’s either misguided or emotionally ignorant if she thinks coming off as angry and petulant about JD’s addiction issues reads like a victim. Generally victims of DV stay in abusive relationships out of an admixture of fear of and compassion for their abuser. If she had an iota of empathy in her voice as Johnny did for her in his testimony she would have had greater chances of swaying the jury. In this case, her performance reads exactly like Dr. Curry’s testimony indicated - histrionic, BPD.
I agree with you 💯 because when I first started listening,and watching her pathetic attempt of telling her story I was thinking OMG! Dr Curry pegged her down to a tee..
plus, she wants to paint herself as having loved him and helped him through it...yet clearly thinks struggling with addiction AUTOMATICALLY makes you an abuser and loser. Theres ZERO empathy for what those with addiction face, nevermind that if I was being abused in the way Depp describes, I'd probably accidentally get addicted to drugs to while trying to numb the pain. Abusers, esp those with histrionic, are quick to turn the faults of everyone else into a personal attack but can never evn admit ONE fault of theirs (her going on the claim shes only ever done drugs twice and otherwise shes a perfect angel...) Her supporters also have a nasty habit of victim blaming and making addiction sound like it makes you a monster. its disgusting
@@rainestar82 well said! She shows no signs of empathy towards his disease. Getting clean and sober and staying that way is a lifelong process. She didn’t seem supportive in the work he’d have to do on a daily basis. The abuse he sustained would make it difficult to stay clean, I’d probably relapse too, accidentally on purpose. You know to numb.
@@rainestar82 Exactly, and btw opioids (and maybe cocaine) are more likely to *elevate* mood, if anything. Those substances don’t seem likely to magically turn one into an angry, physically abusive, monster …he may have referred to his *addiction* as a monster he struggled with, but I don’t think they made that clear in testimony. I wonder if they’ll circle back to that later.
if she was the victim, she would never chase him to fight more. She corners him and while he does lash out emotionally, which might not be right for sure but even the tamest of bunnies will lash out if pushed into a corner. It is a flight or fight syndrome. If he actually caused physical abuse to her, she would NEVER chase him to a room. In fact, quite the opposite. If she was truly the abusee she would have that "walking on egg shells" feeling and would not move much or say much at all if he got fired up, because she would be afraid anything she says or does would set him off. No this is a classic narcissistic abuser response.. chasing after him and fighting more, pushing the limits. You do not need a fancy degree to know that a typical abused person would NOT push the boundaries and chase the fight!
The only time I fought back was when my ex-husband, after beating me up, packed my son's things and told me he was taking him. I called the police in the bathroom while he was packing. The cops didn't come for what seemed forever when I said he was hitting me but when I started screaming into the phone two of them showed up and I walked out of the bathroom to hear them tell him to put the child down and turn around with his hands up. I grabbed my son and went back inside and they took my ex away. Definitely afraid, anxious, so many emotions going through me. But all I thought about at that time was my baby. *These comment sections are becoming like little therapy sessions, with people not only standing with Johnny but some sharing publicly the abuse they endured and a lot of people supporting one another. Beautiful.
Yes and he always tried to avoid stuff with her! She’s just unrelenting . I mean cant you tell when its time to leave it alone and to tomorrows another day?!
😂😂 Umbridge calling the doctor the wrong name multiple times, not being able to pronounce medications or drugs, not seemingly understanding the basics of testimonies…. Girl it’s time to retire 😂
"Cry" but no tears. Let her talk - more blabber = more open to cross. Former law enforcement here. My sister is former DA now a criminal judge. We're having a BLAST with this trial. Your comments are right on (we're a little more savage than you are). We are BEGGING for evidence, ANY kind of evidence at all.
Johnny Depp is the same man of integrity that we've ALWAYS seen and known him to be, because his character is consistent. The person whose character is really in question is that of Amber Heard. She is a selfish and immature person, who relishes in prolonging arguments to exhaustion. She was an angry person long before he met Johnny. Johnny was who he is now and thank goodness he divorced her. She was upset from day 1 about the prenuptial agreement, so here we are.
She keeps saying how he was passing out and crying uncontrollably, but he was filming at the same time. How could he be working while being so out of control?
Having been in a relationship with someone who abused drugs, there are elements to her story regarding his behavior that ring true. My late husband was an absolute nightmare after he had been on a cocaine binge. The paranoid episodes were insane. He believed I had trained with the FBI (we're South African!), he was convinced I had installed cameras in our light fittings and that I was communicating with the FBI through 2 way mirrors. He would wake me up and ask me who the 7 men were who were with me in the bed. It was NUTS! But never once during his drug psychosis did he ever hurt me or even threaten to hurt me. Drugs didn't turn him into a wife-beater
@@Justice4Mica this will happen after a few years of abuse and using extreme amounts. It really sounds more like crystal meth. I’m other words, years of abuse causes psychosis. I doubt he was using that much cocaine tho. You can’t do the jobs he was doing with that level of drug addiction.
I agree n have been the one seeing ppl, lol. She would've got farther running with "he was an abusive alcoholic" than bringing all the drugs up. As someone who has seen & done it all, grew up surrounded by drug use and with 9 yrs of sobriety I have to say it's very rare someone does drugs and gets abusive. Not that it doesn't happen. Every drug affects everyone different. It would've personally been more believable for me had she claimed he was this way while detoxing. Now that's a lil more believable. I could see someone in detox getting a bit aggressive, say if someone was holding meds over their head...(hint hint). Alcohol, she would be 1000x more believable!
It's so obvious when she's telling a "story" & when she's being honest about her feelings - I really hope the jury can hear/see this also. I have heard that it is primarily a male jury.
We get to sit here watching and go back and watch red flag moments (aka every second she's on the stand) as many times as we need to. It's so outlandishly easy to miss things like key expressions and body language when you get to see things just once in real time and have to make your brain move along and keep up with new information coming at a pace you have no say in.
I do hope they bring up the Corden show again because there’s testimony from her makeup artist that AH had no bruising, no split lip & no broken nose. In fact the make up girl was shocked when AH said after the show wow I did that with two black eyes & a broken nose.
@@LC-ru1xl Yes, she is. & There are some REALLY incredible ppl that have been watching from the start & remember everything in interviews & depositions & testimonies. They have been crazy good & bringing attention to those. She has contradicted herself so many times it's ridiculous! But don't take anyone's word for it. Make your mind up. Based on what you feel from her testimony & the evidence. I absolutely recommend going to Incredibly Averages channel & watching (listening) to the hours of audio & look at her testimony from the UK trial. Check out her deposition video from I think 2016. That is a REAL..... peach. Observe channel has a really GREAT breakdown from that deposition. But yes it's a fact shes lied about a LOT! Is everything a lie? I'm not really sure factually. But to me.... Yes I pretty much don't believe anything she's says now. Happy Hunting! ❤️
30:00 she’s sobbing, lawyers asks a question. There’s a slight pause for them to get evidence and BAM she’s got her neutral bored face on again. It’s like the director said cut.
My sister broke my nose when I was 7. I remember vividly how much it hurt, how much it bled, and exactly how it happened. For reference, I am 36 and will be 37 the end of this year. 30 years later I can recall the pain. And the bruising lasted for over a month. I wasn't hit with a grown man's skull. I was hit with hard plastic, swung hard and into my face by my sister. (It was a hula hoop from the 90's and they were heavy hard plastic) So yeah, I don't believe she doesn't remember the pain.
Awhile back I was in the courthouse in Newark, NJ . I passed the family court . I was absolutely horrified at the state a few women were in. They were waiting for the judge . Punched in eye sockets, broken noses , bruises, hair missing, teeth missing Amber has tied up police officers, lawyers and courts preventing real victims that needed to be protected.
I know someone with BPD. She is exactly like Amber. Never ever sees, or admits, her responsibility in any mess she's created. One time she called us and was trying to get us to pick her up from her BF's because they'd gotten in a fight. He was such a nice guy. We were not taking her bait and just trying to get her to calm down instead. Then out of the fn blue she says "You need to come get me, he hit me!" We asked if he'd hit her just this very second and she said no, earlier. Ok, lady... if he'd hit you before you called us, I'm sure you'd have led with that. She wasn't getting the reaction from us that she wanted and started to make shit up to get us to feel sorry for her. Disgusting.
That's exactly how this testimony felt today. "Here's my story....nobody cares....ok he did all this destruction....nobody cares... ok he did this horrible thing with a bottle....WAT why not fucking mention that before?
I have worked in addictions for over 25 years, my husband works in a prison where addictions are rife, the audio footage sounds like JD is withdrawing off the substances he was addicted to, he was most likely in a lot of physical and mental pain and there she is trying to exploit his good efforts at trying to recover from addiction. Recovery is very painful and the audio demonstrates that she repeatedly sabotaged his efforts in order to continue her physical and psychological control over him.
Yea that audio sounds so painful. Idk why she felt there would be any benefit to secretly record him in that moment. Isn’t he way too weak to do any kind of harm to her or anyone ? I guess all the secret records was her way to build up circumstantial evidence of his drug and alcohol addiction as proof of abuse. It could even be “just in case” for her in the beginning but got out of control
i don't have personal experience with this, but it feels weird to me that if she wanted him to be sober she was doing drugs and drinking around him all the time. If I was from the bottom of my heart trying to help an addict recover from their addiction, I would try to avoid putting in their path the thing they're trying not to use.
@@kayfelker8268 yes she was sabotaging not supporting JD. She did not want him to be clean and sober because she gave him the booze daily, she took drugs with her friends around him, she is an enabler and a very mentally disordered one at that. That is why she was sent away by doctors, staff and friends. She was there to ruin him, because she felt that is how she could maintain control over him.
I noticed when someone is a abuser it's starts at a early age and it is a pattern in every relationship. AH has a pattern of this behavior and JD does not.
It must have been so hard for Johnny to listen to this witch talk about his kids as if she was genuinely EVER concerned for their well-being. Him being able to hold his composure speaks volumes.
She does a lot of self-editing as she testifies. My personal favorite is: "I took a bunch of sleeping pills- well, not a bunch, two, which is a lot for me." It doesnt get much more hilariously NOT believable than that. I can smell the bs from my house!
I am just really confused when she says “it didn’t feel like him” but if he is abusing her all the time it should feel like him this is the norm….. this is one of the many reasons why I can’t believe this woman
well you know at the beginning they look absolutely normal. Both my abusive exes had some some sob story on very hard beginnings in life with shitty fathers that where also abusive that they used to reel me in and play into my maternal instincts and protective tendencies. And they'd use those same traits to keep me from ever leaving, either by accusing me of being a 🐝 or trying to get my sympathy and show that they need me to show them love and affection and that they are getting what they never had and that I'm the most special person. When they started shifting to who they truly are it felt unreal until it was becoming the norm. My first abusive partner was way way worse in his treatment of me, but my second managed to brake me without even laying a finger on me or staying for long. He took what he needed and then after lifting me up dropped me from up high. And they where both coercing intimacy out of me.. I can't put my finger on it but all the clips of hers describing the alleged abuse feel faked and feel to be things I can't relate with. Whereas when Johnny speaks something makes my protective momma bear side kick in and I can almost feel what he feels.
@@sonia94ist I am sorry you had to go through that and I hear you…I totally agree! I just don’t understand at all her recollection of the events the way she describes how she felt in those moments it is very odd not to mention her over exaggerated emotions. One thing is for sure she does need help like really psychological help because maybe she believes it happened who knows
@@sharib6422 yeah thats what I see too. That's why Johnny's side is more believable. He's not putting on a show. Her tears look fake too, like there aren't any. Johnny has the same look all throughout on and off the stand. She looks smug and holier that than off the stand and fake cries on the stand.
She always talked about trying to predict his reactions and behaviors. She was learning his programming. Another thing abusers do. Abusers are good at calculating your next moves and showing their victims to be victimizing them.
To be fair, this is also learned if growing up on an abusive household where one or both parents have mood swings. You learn how to be hyper observant to hopefully learn when a bad time is coming.
@@lynned5734 Yes, you would. But that wasn't her testimony. She very clearly stated in that same sentence you are referencing that the having to watch & try to predict what was coming (i.e the hyperawareness you're speaking of due to constant mood swings) was something that she had never experienced b4 & was something very new to her. So, I get what you're saying but that doesn't apply to AH in this case. Or it very well might but she's obviously lying about it in terms of JD. That's just a part of her whole narrative (or scene as she called it) that she scripted for this.
@@lynned5734 yes, you do I am not a SA or DA survivor but I went thru enough to feel situations before they happen and I am sure somethings might have happend becouse of the drugs and the alcohol, fals friends. I even can relate on standing up and confromt him but if you got hit your rather in shock or you are angry! She shows anger an triggerd him just more by calling him out! She self told so!
Johnny when he described being hit, he told the sensation and feeling. She on the other hand describes the surroundings and objects. It doesn’t feel like first hand experience more like someone witnessing it.
Yes! Her verbiage is so disconnected, distant, and repetitive. She was in love with the things Johnny and his fame afforded her. And it gets on my nerves how she called him a thing. No, boo-boo! YOU are the thing! Scamber needs to have several seats.
Yes! Like when she describes the alleged bottle in the v incident. She kept saying! “I felt this pressure.” Not pain, no description of how the pain of a broken bottle felt.
Part of PTSD is the triggers. Those are usually smells, sounds, tones of voices, things that effect the senses and subconsciously transport the person back. So if she said , every time a hear ice clink in the glass a certain way, or smell we'd or jet fuel - I get anxious. That's believable PTSD. Which can happen even without physical abuse. If the person feels the arguments or relationship were traumatic enough.
@@theConquerersMama but those are triggers though, triggers that remind you what you went through. If she said I can’t see a carpet without it reminding me of when he slapped me around and how I fell on it then it would’ve been believable but to say I saw a dirty carpet and was focus on that instead of telling what she felt and the fear it’s like she is speaking as the someone witnessing it.
it makes my fucking skin crawl how much she's trying to bring johnny's kids into this, no doubt because he's gone through lengths to protect them from it
I wonder if a lot of the problems in JD and AH's relationship come from her extreme disappointment in not being able to be the perfect caregiver/mother figure in that relationship. Instead of being a loving wife who controlled the perfect home and husband, instead of being the perfect caregiver who was able to nurse JD back to health from his various addictions, every grand scheme to be the heroine (and receive the praise of the many powerful, respected friends JD had) was thwarted by JD's repeated relapses and her own shoddy attempts to help (not shoddy because she was trying to be ineffective help, but shoddy because she was completely unwilling/unable to accept the correction needed in order to be effective help). Failing to produce the results she had expected from her relationship with JD, I wonder if she turned her attempts to build a perfect family (with herself in the starring role as the beloved, caring mother) to JD's kids, attempting to (as she is doing for the court) uphold herself and smear JD in order to remove him (the problematic piece that keeps ruining her perfect plans) from her perfect imagined scenario. But then JD removed the kids from her sphere of influence.
@@kalilak9701 I hear what your saying and there probably is a element of truth in that... But I don't think she has every had a noble idea in her head unless it ultimately serves her... She is a classic gold digger with a huge amount of malevolent intent..... I
@@missy3429 I agree that she definitely has malevolent intent now! But I bet SHE thinks she is the heroine. I have an aunt with similar personality issues (and so have done a bit of reading about them) and one problem with this sort of combination of lack of empathy and severe insecurity (which coalesces into a rejection of and subsequent lack of a stable, internal, positive sense of who we are as a distinctly valuable human) is that everything starts to look like a reasonable justification to do whatever it takes to remain the heroine. To admit when we've done something seriously wrong takes a lot of internal fortitude that is lacking when one is suffering from such severe insecurity. To step out of the "spotlight" and let someone else have what might otherwise have been our share of the adulation of others takes internal fortitude. The sort of internal fortitude that is completely lacking in those suffering from these sorts of personality disorders. When someone cannot handle being wrong (or giving anyone else a chance to steal the "spotlight" by being correct) lying and abuse can become an internally justifiable means to control the narrative or (from the perspective of someone suffering from such a disorder) to put the narrative back on its proper ("normal") course. I'm not saying that people suffering from these disorders will necessarily turn to abuse, and I'm not trying to excuse it either. I'm just noticing how it could very well have been (from AH's perspective) a "the path to Hell is paved with good intentions" situation. I'd speculate that AH's thinking was probably already seriously warped by her personality disorder before she met JD, and such warped thinking could (I think) very easily result in the above scenario... And then the observed results.
Right? You’d think that Jerry would tell the other security guards about the things he saw also. It’s very fishy that these things could happen and none of the other security guards were aware
*he was twice my age* was mentioned multiple times in her testimony but all of her partners have been much older than her. That's how she picks em! Girl please, don't act like he "preyed" on you or something because you were so young.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Everyone you date is *older* than you!!!
I've heard her make the comment a number of times now, "I couldn't win." Like their relationship was a series of events in which one person had to be the winner.
If you watch his security when he’s signing autographs, his security team wrap their arms around him and force him to move away from fans. There’s no way those men will sit by and allow that to happen on a plane. They protect him and put hands on him to move him along. I believe 100% they would put hands on if they witnessed him engaging in DV, and move him away.
It's interesting she mentioned that she invited her therapist to the engagement party (that she described around the 1 hour mark). I feel like she said that to give her therapist more credibility, but it also conveys lack of client-practitioner boundaries on her part (common with BPD) and would be incredibly unethical if her therapist actually accepted the invitation (therapists will sometimes go to events like funerals if it is supportive to the client and the therapeutic relationship, but a party like AH was describing would be inappropriate).
@@maquelhoutz5966 now how crazy is that. A husband being kind to his wife…and that one that ambers team had to go on and on about. I hope dr curry’s husband knows how much in live chat those muffins played a big role n this case. And how stupid of them to make a big deal. There’s no guilty or not guilty in this case….but Johnny and just career will sky rocket. Thanks….
A major giveaway she’s putting on a show is how she’s staring at the jury the entire time. Everyone else looks away to think about what they’re saying, which the brain does naturally when it’s trying to recall something. So the way she goes on and on while hardly ever looking away shows it’s a script being acted out. Not to mention how she’s never actually she’s a tear or shown any other indication physically that she’s feeling true emotions
Last week we were praising Dr. Curry for looking at the Jury, were we not? I don't have a horse in this race, I just find it very disturbing that we're focusing on minute body language to try and prove that someone is a liar. Apparently we, as a society, do not know how to talk about male victims of DV without being misogynistic.
@@aimeesmiles9400 As a person who has been abused my gut tells me Heard's testimony from when she talks about her childhood abuse is appallingly real but her testimony about Johnny is absolutely false and she's lying. She is purely appealing to the Jury, acting a role. I feel that she's very, very sick actually.
@@aimeesmiles9400 I personally don't really analyse any body language, but I feel like the difference is that Dr Curry is an objective expert, she is supposed to remember everything and speak confidently and convincingly. Whereas Amber is supposed to be talking about the worst experience of her life that has given her a PTSD, yet it feels like she is just narrating things, similarly to Dr Curry. Johnny didn't look at the jury much and you could tell he was trying to recall things. Amber just feels vey distant from the story itself and more focused on how the story is being told. Do you get what I am trying to get at?
She has been arrested for wife beating are arested for Criminal drug and drunk drive and violence are Fact she has done that she accuse him for and that are Witness ,Photos ,Hospital and She arested for it also in Australia and in USA so more than one Partner and That is a pattern and That is facts
Also, regarding the broken nose, if she testified that she had a broken nose, there would be x-ray for that if she had her nose "fixed" since here it doesn't look like her nose is or was broken. If it was not fixed or returned to place, it would either leave a mark, or her nose would be tilted. I got my nose broken from a basketball game many years ago hitting the head of another player as I was about to steal the ball and he swung his head at the direction of my face, and you can still see that it's still slightly tilted after all these years. Sometimes you can feel something is weird in the area between the length of the nose. Not sure if it's the same for everyone, but me and a couple of people I knew were like this. Though there's were not tilted. If she uses a "broken" nose excuse, she's digging her own grave. Because 1, realigning a broken nose would require surgery because the damage may be more complicated than you think, and there would be paperwork or x-ray for that. No one would advise you to fix your broken nose on your own as you may complicate it even further. You can see she prolly realized this by saying "I'm assuming I had a broken nose". She's only making things worse for her
When my nose was broken, it bled profusely...like a faucet!!! My eyes swelled up and were black! There was NO doubt in my mind, or the perpetrator's, that I had a broken nose. She's a LIAR!
Wow Amber definitely studied her part for this day in court, just look at the librarian/ teacher outfit, her mannerisms, constant pauses to think of her lies and staring at the jury so intently. And her Lawyer constantly leading the conversation and trying to jog her memory sounds like they rehearsed together. It's very obvious Amber used Johnny to propel her status. Anyone with an ounce of logic can tell she's lying especially after hearing past recordings of the way she normally talks.
The facial expressions alone are comical it’s like she wants to look like she is crying but just can’t. She reminds me of a contrived child caught red handed and trying to shift blame
I've noticed that the only time she seems genuine is when she is talking about her love for him & how heartbroken she was over losing him.... that's when I see & feel real emotion from her. I don't any other time.
I think so too. I think finding those ipad coms with the other gal sealed it though, I mean who would choose elon musk when you could have Johnny Depp. Just a bit scorned. She has rage issues
There is a recording of a convo with Johnny where she tells him she's gonna frame him, she actually telling him, he seems on it like he's zoned out, or not believing her. I'm not sure why it's not in this trial, hoping they get it in.
She sounds like she's just venting to a therapist. Or recounting her life to a friend who'd be impressed (and appalled) with all the things she's saying. It also feels like a performance. I'm trying to keep an open mind, but a lot of what Dr. Curry said is REALLY making it hard to listen to this. And Emily losing her mind with the bad lawyering is hilarious.
20:00 & 2:45:12 Yes - JD gave AH career advice. He was put in a box of being the “hot, teen heartthrob” early on in his career. IMO JD was giving advice on how to be successful- by taking a variety of roles - instead of always being cast as “the hot girl” with kissing and sex scenes. He wasn’t being controlling he was helping her succeed by learning from his mistakes. Also, when AH went on the red carpet in a very low cut gold dress with out leaving much to the imagination and including bright red lipstick JD said “yah, I see ya, kid. That’s how they’ll always see ya” (or something to that effect). If AH wanted to be viewed as more than just “the hot girl” she had to dress and act the part - that’s why JD was helping her with her wardrobe // reviewing scripts, etc. and she knows it.
Well said. Same with him saying don't go out to a concert with co stars. Because he's been there and knows that the paparazzi will make more of it than it is or keep those photos to cause trouble later.
Just imagine living with your enemy who is suppose to be your best friend, constantly taking photos and recordings to discredit you, only Jesus could stand that 🧐 scrutiny.
You know what really bothers me I haven’t heard at all during trial? Her counselor told her a multitude of times she can’t change him, sober him up, there’s nothing she can do very early on. She went to Al- non but never stuck with it. Al-non focuses on her needing to change, her behavior. Lol that’s not for Amber. She needed Johnny as her excuse
The fact that she repeatedly filmed him in secret and somehow *NEVER* managed to capture a single moment of him actually hitting her is very troubling.
There are small moments I think are true, after all it was a toxic co-dependent relationship where they were both abusive... BUT... I agree with you... she says he hit her with his rings on, hard enough for a drop of blood to hit the wall. Excuse me? You have pictures of 'bruises' as your proof... but say he hit you repeatedly over the years, bruising you over the years... he asks for a divorce and you TRO his ass while he is out of country and claim abuse. Nice move.
And, no Police or Medical Reports supporting her accusations!
This part. You captured him sleep in a night stand but couldn't catch one selfie of yaself before you used the concealer? I call BS
Exactly!
True she is totally fake. Posing while using napkin
So my biggest question … if Johnny was trying to isolate and control her and such why did he let all her friends live right next door? Makes isolating pretty tough.
She isolated him. For example: Paul Bettany, his kids, all his friends, etc.)
Good point
And no one heard her screaming and bottle smashing etc
Exactly; she isolated him and the people around her. She kept them in a tight bubble. Had her friend and her friends boyfriend and her sister living right next to her. Keeps her victims close. And if you look at the pictures of Rocky and Whitney with Amber...they are just strange pictures. These people look damaged 😕
Well said
The fact that she was taking pictures before they even lived together let alone married, gives me the "I was plotting this all along"
That's what I been telling my wife it just seems weird to do that kind of psychoish
she was smart enough to take pics of Johnny to prove he had issues but when it came to taking pics of her injuries to document them, she suddenly couldn't think. How could anyone believe this bullshit?
Exactly! I hope Depp's lawyers bring that up during the cross.
more like creepy lol.
She might have just been sending it to a friend 👀 like: look what I woke up to or whatever
Her ability to testify for minutes in incomplete sentences that do not connect is stunning.
I believe that she is kind of "on the set" for a movie here. It is easy to see when she have practiced what to say, and what is spontaneous. The way she looks at the jury is pretaught, almost like she is doing a roleplay. At least IMO 🤷🏼♀️
@@toriwilliams5047 an actor not acting on the stand would seem near impossible.
@@Deb501 I disagree. Deception irl is very different from acting on film and acting in theater. Also, liars don't lie because they're good at lying, but because they're morally corrupted.
@@Deb501that idea about actors being good liars is so funny to me. Actors prepare (sometimes for months) for a character, not only that but they have a script, directors who tell them how to portray the truth of the character better, rehersals, breaks, multiple takes, etc. Being on a stand, talking about your personal life while answering questions that you don't know specifically what they are going to be, is a very very different situation. As you can see here, even if you have months to prepare your testimony, if you are lying, if your story is false, it comes out that way.
Because She’s making it up as she goes.
“It didn’t hurt” are you kidding? Getting hit across the face hurts like hell, stings for a long time. He constantly wanted to have sex while going through drug withdrawals! That was by far for me the most ridiculous statement made so far. Anyone who has gone through withdrawals would know how extremely sick and dead your body is, you wouldn’t want sex if a gun was put to your head
Her stories just aren’t making sense
Correct! You just wanna die..
I agree!
The way that Johnny described his finger being cut off sounded way more credible. He said something like he couldn't feel it at first but then it felt hot - that is shock and endorphins, you don't say "it didn't hurt"
I can understand wanting to bang *after* you've finished withdrawals, many of us substitute that for drugs and alcohol. But while you're going through it?! Absolutely the fluck not.
Nah, but you have to jack it feebly until it runs dry 1000 times. Something about withdrawal makes it a necessity. Lasts 2 seconds and isnt enjoyable, but it does somehow help for a second. That said, no full on smash sesh. That's energy a dude doesn't have when in the thick of it. Just pathetic microsecond long jacks while laying there almost dead. Kicking sucks.
I could believe it if she said, "it didn't hurt at first, then the pain started setting in" or "I felt like I blacked out, then it really started to hurt"
I honestly don't believe he ever hit her the way she explains it. When you get hut, especially by a man, in the FACE, that HURTS.
If he told her he made a mistake on marrying her--that's not abuse--that's JD being real. Not all conversations are going to be convivial.
She claimed he said that BEFORE they were married!
Exactly
Convivial, I learned a new word, I had to look it up
@@jessyjulie5506 what does it mean I need to use it in this context as well 😂
@@MaryJane-tp3qd it means an someone or something with a joyful, friendly atmosphere.
Her testimony just proves Dr. Curry’s’ diagnosis was accurate 100%
Histrionic Personality Disorder : defined by overly dramatic and very theatrical acts, intense unstable emotions, distorted self image. Emphasis on the very dramatic and theatrical acts
Appreciate your comment. Yes, feel the same. Dr Curry was clear and on point.
Exactly... and Hughes as BS!
Yes, and she needs help. People with personality disorders can get better. Seems Johnnie's therapist told him to doodle to cope under stress. It's an artist's way of using their emotions. I believe that's why he wrote on the walls and mirrors, not because he was on illicit drugs, but because it was his "artistic" way of dealing with an insufferable woman and situation.
@@TzokoliT they have yo want help, they have to recognize something is wrong. She is absent of any faults...in her opinion. Ex psych nurse here
@@TzokoliT I agree and he d hardly be beating someone and then drawing. Or drawing and then beating someone. It seems it was his only outlet.. that and playing guitar or else walking away.jmo
Using hindsight, it was genius of Camille to let Elaine get used to asking leading questions. That redirect was brutal!
I was there in court those days. Camille was AWESOME! I also sat next to Johnny and his team's driver and during the breaks he was like "Maam, can I ask you what you think of everything shes saying up there??" I was like, Well I think shes a lunatic! Shes offending almost every woman in the courtroom with these lies because most of us have ACTUALLY been through Domsetic violence or sexual assault at some point." He was so relieved to hear me say that. And she was staring at the poor jury the entire time, yet they were NEVER looking at her. Faces literally buried in the screens they had or taking notes. It was BIZARRE.
Well i don't think AH can answer her own lawyer questions if Elaine don't use leading questions.
The way she emphasized "Like a baby" when she said Johnny had to be carried inside. It's so obviously meant as a micro-aggression. I hope the jury remembers that.
So many of these! The disparaging narrative that makes everything all his fault and her a reluctant and completely innocent participant in the relationship is classically the way an abuser will retell the story.
People often forget what you say but they always remember how they made you feel.
The sad thing is, I'm starting to feel sorry for her because as narcissistic as she is, with proper therapy now knowing her personality disorder, she can wake up, make changes, and improve her life and relationships. No one in this case is a winner. But, it is good closure for the sake of Johnnie's kids. I'm not a Johnnie fan but now I'm seeing that he is one of those actors who is trying because experience showed he failed many times.
@@ajahanna6293 I couldn't stand listening to Dr. Hughes. It didn't make sense, it was confusing, redundant long words, too fast.... I hope she doesn't come back.
And she said finally. I felt this was his rockbottom. And I felt everyone was on the same page this being his rockbottom. That he would be finally getting help. I think rockbottom is for the person that is struggling. Not her feelings that this was his rockbottom.
Replay crew: If Elaine is well respected for being someone who settles lots of cases, there must be a lot of attorneys watching this wishing they'd just gone to court.
🤣 hahaha
Hard for her attorneys to prove truth when all they have is her lies to work with !...
Theyve got a hell of a job to defend this person as they have no real evidence except for doctored photos...so they have to "believe" what amber says...!....
That explains why Elaine doesn’t seem to realize how irritating she is. I wonder how the jury is responding to her. Based on how JD’s attorneys are acting, the subdued way they object, how they don’t attack witnesses aggressively, that they read that the jury does not like how Elaine acts. At this point Elaine’s voice triggers annoyance in me.
Hilarious! 😃 and true
That explains a lot. I've been saying since the trial started that she doesn't seem to have a lot of trial experience and it sounds like she probably doesn't.
"I'm being used" Johnny literally has everything, and yet he was so humble and down to earth. he even backs away at fights and never hurt her. The audacity of this woman lmfaoooo
Guys with everything can use and exploit a woman women with money can do the same to poor and young men. I’m not saying Amber is not guilty of what’s she’s being accused of. I’m just pointing out ppl with a lot are more likely actually to exploit those with less.
@@boundariessetinstone5893 Amber is literally a millionaire.
Amen!!! Johnny is a saint. The audacity of this woman. ......wow
@@kristinenoffsinger5138 I don't think he would call himself a saint but he ain't a wifebeater.
@@mobalias Correct but doesn’t have his kind of money can’t live his life style without him. It would be like someone making $40,000 a year and someone making $250,000 a year. Although she has some chunks of money again nothing near his fortune. Guarantee you Ambers not drinking those two $500 dollar bottles of wine a day like she did with him. That’s $360,000 a year her mere $10 million would be gone in no time. I think it’s rude she though just cause he was way richer then her it was ok to blow his money. That kind of wine just like Crystal isn’t something you can drink daily. Even for millionaires expensive drinks like that are for occasion’s or weekends only. That’s how millionaires go broke shit adds up if wine bill alone was $360,000 a year imagine all other things. In their short relationship she spent $14 million of his money more then she’s worth. You can’t just blow through money cause you are a millionaire that’s how you get broke again.
Her testimony sounds like an audition tape for a role for a lifetime movie mixed with an interview for an editorial. She tends to skip over anything that may look bad on her or that she can't word right to make JD look bad. And the way she keeps talking straight to the jury is like she's talking to the audience of a talk show
I heard someone say her testimony looks more like an actress trying too hard to play the role of Amber Heard in a Lifetime movie. That's exactly how I feel.
I would be weirded out of I was on the jury! She stares at some of them (probably the ones she thinks is buying her story) for WAY too long. I have a sis just like her and I KNOW what Amber is. Her lies are so vague and all over the place. She changes the story when she thinks people aren't buying it.
Little detail, LOTS of fluff. Huge sign of lying. She says these small insignificant things with lots of drama and then goes into things that don’t matter. Very hallow answers. Can’t wait to see her cross examined when she MIGHT have to actually answer some of her contradictions.
@@leslieroycroft3569 Yes, way too much fluff, yet can’t remember key details like the bruise, or what it felt like when he supposedly hit her.
Who is she trying to impress? I’m not believing anything she is saying
I love the fact that Johnny's lawyers' don't keep objecting. This allows Amber to dig herself into her own hole. Brilliant.
Are you talking about how they object to hearsay or leading. And then her Amber heards lawyer continues with another leading care say question and Albert continues to hearsay. But Johnny Depp‘s team does an object again even though they could? Is that what you’re talking about? Sorry I’m just trying to understand
@@Herstyleseduier think what they mean is that they only object when amber mentions hearsay(bec that could corroborate her testimony) but they don't object to anything She says when telling her story, they let her go on and on to let her dig a hole for herself, bec once she brings up certain things it opens the door for lawyers to dispute it.. and they have a lot of evidence that disputes her claims -thus it becomes her story vs everyone else.
@@Herstyleseduier I think they are talking about how Johnnys team could object and say “no responsive” or “narrative” when she’s going off tangents
The idea that Johny wouldn't let her have jobs that sexualized her or that she stopped taking roles if they had a sex scene, kissing, or revealing clothing is utter bull. Syrup, Magic Mike, Paranoia, The Ward, and Three Days to Kill are just a few movies she did while married to him that included all of those things.
But she knows noone watched them, she's good lol
Lmao when your whole legal argument rests on the assumption that no one watches your movies 😂
20:00 Yes - JD gave AH career advice. He was put in a box of being the “hot, teen heartthrob” early on in his career. IMO JD was giving advice on how to be successful- by taking a variety of roles - instead of always being cast as “the hot girl” with kissing and sex scenes. He wasn’t being controlling he was helping her succeed.
If AH wanted to be viewed as more than just “the hot girl” she had to dress and act the part - that’s why JD was helping her with her wardrobe // reviewing scripts, etc. and she knows
@@theRealSara exactly. As well as saying do not go to a concert with your costars and give the gossip columns fodder. That is because he's lived under the glare of the paparazzi and rumors for a long time. He's knows it causes friction in the relationship and at work.
She wS in criminal minds and most of her scenes were in a bikini
Honestly, Amber's lawyers not understanding what hearsay is and constantly telling amber how to testify made this incredibly difficult to watch and felt very dishonest.
Please she's portraying him as an alcohol and drug abuser a sexual predator a maniac like he shouldn't even be alive
Having a hard time following yourself
Make up another lie
I think they are well versed in evidence rules but they are trying to get away with it and this judge is having none of it.
thats ok right? their clocks running out
Also, my ex husband was an opiate addict. When he went through withdrawal he could barely pick himself up from the bed, couch or bathroom floor. If Johnnys was going through withdrawal on the plane I don’t think he’d have the strength to kick her. Opiate withdrawal is painful and practically debilitating.
this also really surprised me. If it was any severe detox but ESPECIALLY opiate withdrawal he would not have been able to chase her around the house and throw her onto things like she's describing. Opiate withdrawal is one of the worst pains and most debilitating bodily illnesses you can experience, especially since a lot of addicts haven't felt pain of even normal severity in the years they were using so have 0 tolerance.
Also, the concept that any doctor would be ok with him genuinely detoxing with only his new wife to supervise is.... untenable, no matter how much of a yes man she's claiming he was. People die from detox. Suggesting someone do it as part of a vacation with only non medical personel for long periods between "check ins" is begging for a malpractice suit.
Honestly this testimony even made me rethink her characterization of the severity of his addiction not just his actions, which wasn't something I was questioning before.
even for me being completely teetotal, it would be hard to kick a person in the back either because of my mediocre flexibility or my clumsiness, so how could Johnny do it without falling or losing his balance? It doesn't makes sense
I was addicted to opiates for many many years. He might have gotten pissy…probably because she was pushing his buttons. But you most definitely don’t have the strength to do what she’s claiming.
The fact that people die from detox makes me think that’s what she was hoping for by denying his medication. I mean that’s just my thought.. there’s some moments that seem like things were heading in that direction, but that’s just my thought.
Oh my god yes! Had a lot of oxy after surgery, granted not an addict at all. But coming off it, I remember barfing, diarrhea, feeling feverish, staying in bed. hm 🤔
Her testimony ia so unbelievable. She talks about music being such a big thing in her life, goes to concerts, dates musicians and artists, but isn't sure what "a single" is?
Or what a Marilyn Manson song sounds like...
Ooo I missed that.
She's lying say a broken Nose without anyone seen it if look on a fight and see how look like are not Look nice are face get swell up and are no make up in world hide that and can not breath from nose need doctor to out in pipes in nose so breath not get problem later from take Weeks to heal so none has seen that and say everything That was in movie set and that not a week after are Impossible to miss that
Yes, and Johnny Depp is actually a musician who needs his fingers to play guitar.
Exactly!
She is naming and using his Kids Johnny will hate her for involving his kids.
Yep. She's trying to goad him to bring his kids into this. I'm glad he's ignoring her.
Despicable to bring his children into her testimony.
When she mentioned that 18 year old musician spent the night at lily Rose's house, my jaw dropped. Such a violation of lily's privacy.
She knows what buttons to push, in every way. From his kids through the lies, she’s doing all of it to piss him off.
Pretty sure he already hates her (agree with you though.)
One minute she says she wasn’t allowed to take roles with sex scenes, then she describes how he responded every time she had a scene like that.
I felt uncomfortable during Johnny's testimony because I could feel his pain, and embarrassment, and sadness. I feel uncomfortable during Amber's testimony but I cannot put my finger on why. I feel repulsed.
I’ve been assaulted (2 head punches, in Baker Square, after being kept in the house for a couple of hours) and my policy is to believe the weaker/less social clout of the two. But I agree-my stomach starts twisting as she starts describing, and sometimes as she’s kind of smirked during his or others’ testimony. She makes my hair stand on end and I keep wondering how many women will be Not believed because of her-especially in Britain.
@@wylldflower5628 I am really sorry you had to go through such horrible violence. And as you said my policy is also to believe the weaker/less socially powerful party. And Johnny Depp is probably the only exception to this rule. And it is damn pitiful that the most public and high profile case (if we do not count Weinstein - but even that did not receive hour by hour live streaming watched by millions) is the one in which a woman seems to be a lying. The damage to any future victim (and the vast majority of victims are women) is irreparable.
@@lenusniq_9746 I think the one takeaway I’m (relatively) happy about is that I know zero women who believe her and the level of discomfort in listening to her seems quite consistent. For me when I like his roles I really enjoy him but while I think he’s a very unique actor, not all of his movies appeal to me and he’s not my favorite actor. Still, I believe his testimony, and hers so far just puts me on edge and makes me balk. But if the world sees, and can trust their judgement, I’m hopeful that will be a good thing in the long run.
I'm rewatching this testimony after watching The Behavior Panel talk us through some parts of this testimony and they explain exactly why you feel uncomfortable with Amber's testimony...
...in short..
...it is because she's essentially talking sh!t and you're sensing it
You should give it watch...it is quite interesting if you're into that kinda thing...
..fair warning...
..it spans over a few episodes and they go long..
..but still...
...interesting
I watched her full testimony yesterday… What struck me was that, even from the very start of the relationship (prior to the reported descent to extreme abuse), she was photograping him sleeping/zonked, photos of drugs, photos of this and that… We have no real context for why he is falling asleep in his chair. Yes - he has major substance abuse problems and a temper, but he was also putting in long, physical days on sets. I.e.: context?!? Also, that he was with a partner who was documenting negative things from the start…this makes me very sad.
Because she always had an agenda to use and abuse JD. If he had sexually and physically abused her then given her MO there would have been video/photo evidence. She also has selective memories and her testimony lacks cohesion.
BrassGal, how they met involves all sorts of boundarycrossing. Abuse always involves an enabling enviroment.
Considering how mocking, condescending and arrogant she appeared in her previous deposition and interviews, I actually have a feeling she was taking the pictures to show her enabling, free-loading friends as in, “look at that old loser, ah!”
Same with the “bruise” photos, which are in the typical injection sites for Botox and fillers. I have a feeling she took those to beyatch at the injector but later went, “hmmm, these could be used in a different context to my advantage”... (you have photos of minimal bruising on your face but none of you sliced up feet “flailing over broken bottles”?
Uh-uh. Kay. 🤥
I hope they’ll address the fact that she conveniently denies access to her cloud and cell phone records...
She is obviously very materialistic, look at the expression in her face when she keeps bringing up all his material possessions and that “giant diamond ring”. I mean, if you were abused to the point of ptsd, wouldn’t you want to get as far away from triggers as possible? Yet, as part of the divorce, she was demanding that she and her enabling free loading posse keep living rent-free in those penthouses??
🤔💀🔪🤥
Wasn’t that a photo of him asleep taken in the Bahamas? Could he have just been sitting out relaxing in the sun?!
Yup - blackmailing people is clearly her Modus Operandi - she's done it to Elon Musk, Johnny Franco, Leo DiCaprio, and I''m not sure if she has blackmailed Jason Momoa, but she certainly seduced him and is an expert "homewrecker!"as she is with most wealthy men! And what about stealing the embryos that her and Elon created? She asked if she could use one, I THINK he took her to court about it as he didn't want to have any children with her after they split up. Somehow, she found a loophole (she probably threw a vodka bottle at the Laboratory Manager and threatened to cut his finger off if he did not hand it embryo over hahah) and had the embryo implanted in a surrogate therefore Elon would be 9 months months behind the pregnancy and be none the wiser about the stolen embryo! How much Child Support would one of the wealthiest men in the world have to pay??
Camille Vasquez is clever, she's trapping amber in her own lies by getting her flustered. Go Camille !!
Also, does anyone get the sense that when Camille let's amber drone on and on and on there's an awkwardness to her monologue. Like amber has no idea.what to say but she's being allowed to keep droning and talking and it's really awkward because she's begging for someone to object so she can break because it's so hard thinking on her feet 😂
AH reminds me of a kid that is looking for visual clues that the lie she just told was believed. She will keep rambling until she gets that confirmation or she is stopped from talking.
@@czhaok
Thats a good point! I think Amber's mental health diagnosis is in alignment with the propensity to be dodgy and get out of predicaments and even tell straight up lies (I've known others with BPHD) but it's usually quick and they are off running so to speak. But in this case Amber can't just quickly lie then avoid everything so her lie just gets worse and worse and more unbelievable. She never thought she'd have to do this in a courtroom. She's used to never being held accountable for the damage she causes.
Also meant to say , she is not used to thinking on her feet for hours at a time recounting the full story.
@@czhaok yes I have noticed it. She’s definitely ad-lobbing
She does not take responsibility for anything in this relationship. She is constantly trying to make herself out to be some kind of angel and; Johnny was a constant monster. It's really hard for me to believe that everyone is lying to one person. It is even more difficult for me to believe that she had time to take pictures of him sleeping and passing out, but she doesn't have any recordings of him berating her. It is difficult for me to believe that she doesn't have one of these witnesses that she speaks of to testify yet. Then she outlines these horrific stories abuse but no photos.
I think that sticks out to a lot of people--in the recordings, you hear her berate him and instigate a lot, but in her retelling, she's always the meek little mouse who's always tiptoeing around his unpredictable temper. What really stood out to me, was the video where she came into his slamming the cabinets, and she's asking him 'What happened? What happened? Babe, what happened?". It's not in a tone of someone asking their partner why their upset and trying to understand, so they can try to calm them down, like, 'hey babe, what's wrong? what's got you so upset? Is there anything I can do to help?'... her tone sounds more like she's goading him.
All these witnesses, pictures, or recordings...and nothing of him hitting her, or hell, even swinging at her. Especially after the 'main' incident, no pictures of her feet all torn up, no video of him waving his self-inflected bloody finger at her, just a few pictures 'a few days later' (and then some more after a few more days) of some bruises, and some barely bruises on her face, in all of which she's wearing the same shirt. Which yeah, bruises change/develop over time, but... Her whole story just doesn't add up.
@@fallen0angel yeah and there is 1 recording after she filed the TRO where he's asking her to fix all this in a joint statement after she screwed him over but all she cares about is her credibility, her reputation-with no regard to his & not ONCE does she say its bec he did anthing wrong .. She literally says she hurt him due to fear of his reaction to things she did to him.. That pretty much solidified it for me... you dont say or do that if you love someone.
Plus all the inconsistencies with her version of events, the fact her stories all paint him as the only aggressor and her the innocent angel we know shes nit from the audio, its not real and her story has holes where you can tell something is missing.
Its not just she said/he said, it's her version VS literally everyone else's and the fact she has no proof. Not everyone that didn't see her bruises was a Depp employee, the police didn't even know who her husband was at that time and why on earth would the door man lie for him?
I get its her testimony and some things are plausible but most just doesn't ring true, the more exaggerated the claims, the kore you have to back it up... i would think her lawyers would tell her to tone it down a bit. Honestly, I thought she would go with the mental abuse claims, @least she has audio of the name calling (from both sides) instead of doubling down on the Physical stuff that she has no real time proof they even existed. 🙄
As far as her notifying people of the injuries, I hope they have to describe the marks on her because although she did notify people, like Isaac and the make up artist, they both stated they saw nothing there. It's all very Gone Girl, I'm surprise she didn't write a fake journal. IDK, I suppose it depends on how the jury defines abuse but if they see all these seemingly huge exaggerationsthat everyone else sees, then they should take everything else she says with a grain of salt.
She was seen the very next day with reported supposedly 2 black eyes, busted lip and hurt nose. SHE WAS FINE?
Very good point. Johnny duri g his testimony was truthfull about his drugs, about loosing his temper and hitting kitchen cabinets . The only thing he denies doing is physically abusing his manipulative, sadistic psychopath of an ex-wife. But Heard absolutely takes no responsibility for her acts, none! Everything she has done is somehow Depp's falt everytime. That does not sit right with me at all, besides the rest of the things that we notice.
@@sandraaudette8949 Sticking to emotional abuse would have made such a stronger case against him. I too have no doubts that parts of her story are true--it looks like things got really nasty between them--but anything that has to do with him causing her any physical harm falls completely flat. I can look past the no-tears-'crying', and the lack of any tone change when her voice breaks, AND even the almost immediate composure when another question is asked, trauma effects everyone differently, but nothing in her stories adds up. Both to her own 'evidence', or anyone else's.
If he was holding her hostage for three days, but within the first day he's 'blacked out', like apparently so often happened, why couldn't she leave then? And yes, while a lot of abuse victims won't seek medical attention, for a multitude of reasons, she had her own private nurse! She could have made up some 'we got drunk and kinky and maybe it got a little out of control' or something.
Which absolutely sucks, because this type of shit isn't something you lie about, and not enough people are believed when it actually happens to them. People die at the hands of their partner because 'he was such a nice guy' or 'she was the perfect wife'.
I also find it hard to believe that early on she told her mom about it, and she didn't do anything, like 'Oh no. We'll let's just hope he doesn't do anything like that again.' Granted, my daughter's only a year old, but I cannot imagine her telling me that her partner was smacking her around, and me not doing anything about it.
I don't even care about 'celebrity' news, but this whole thing is infuriating, and it's great to see Johnny not only get to tell his story, but clear his name as well.
Sidenote: I feel like I need to read/watch Gone Girl now because I keep seeing people point out the very strong similarities.
As a husband, I would not want my wife going into my house alone with a guy like amber did with James Franco. That is not normal. She acts like Johnny should’ve been fine with that. And I honestly doubt she even told Johnny that he was going to be there.
Also at 11pm. It's not like he went there at 3pm for a little visit or whatever. I'm not sure if they talked about at what time he left...
Emily’s lack of patience today is a mood. I feel you girl
Edit: ok but her therapist being invited/going to her engagement party is super weird
I agree! First, I wouldn't want anyone to know I'm seeing a therapist; second, I wouldn't introduce my therapist to friends & family; third, was that a ploy by AH so that the therapist could watch & study JD? Did AH anger JD so that the therapist could confirm(?) JD's behavior? Sounds like something AH would do; manipulation to the hilt!
It’s unprofessional and her therapist should have said “no”. My therapist actually told me not to be hurt if she sees me in the real world and doesn’t acknowledge me unless I acknowledge her first. It’s not a good look.
@@phatpharm06 I think that is the standard for all therapists. They only will acknowledge you after you do first because of patient confidentiality. But I can't see them just attending a wedding for fun. It would break the client/provider boundaries.
And the MD Dr. gave her a lacey negligee...so freakin weird...
@@1ACL What was the context for that anyways? In what world would a doctor do that and not lose his license for inappropriate behavior? Did she report him?
This poor creature has no core "self". She is just stringing together odd bits from movies, books, perhaps other relationships, projections-- just making it up as she goes along, and the longer it goes the more obvious its story-telling. Its just over the top! Keep going!
@A the lack of sense of self is absolutely her Cluster B Personality Disorders
yeah… a sociopath / narcissist :c
she should be friends with trisha paytas lol
The only poor thing here is Johnny :/
Guy is exhausted from work and tries to sleep - but gets a photo taken and is claimed to have passed out from "abuse".
It's a little unnerving how similar to Gone Girl the Makers Mark bottle insert is... The most jarring part is when she tells the truth: JDs jealousy ('don't do sex scenes'/'why are you hanging around with James Franko' etc) and the destruction of property (JD destroying the phone & throwing her clothes down the stairs, but not hurting anyone). She speaks so much more fluidly/quickly about the jealousy & property destruction versus the physical/sexual abuse, which feels like a poorly acted performance (the dramatic pauses, the sorrowful looks towards the jury, the absence of tears). I really hope she isn't lying about the sexual & domestic abuse. Because, holy smokes, what a damaging thing to do to real survivors.
5 minutes in to her testimony, I don't believe a word she's saying. Everything is random, she's all over the place. All these disjointed words and thoughts. She feels like the luckiest girl in the world to be marrying him but she's been taking pictures of him drunk, passed out, threatening her? No. Absolute liar.
How can a person lie so easily about a person who is in the same room. That's insane to me.
Exactly, I was just thinking that. Fucking shamelessly, under oath, in the same room as someone you're accusing of being sexually assaulted by violently and in such a gross way, knowing it's literally based off pure imagination..which is scary, maybe that's her fetish. She WiSHeS he had jit her, then she could have taken him for everything..she's jealous of his daughter too, I wonder if that was the reason she tried to take him down (because she knew it would affect his daughter in a huge way )
@@ashleyobrien4830 it's so fucking crazy... she is the closest to a psychopath I've ever seen !!
No need to worry about a pre-nup kid money from that Huge Diamond Ring should last you a lifetime.
Yeah, once you realize that a person can lie so easily to your face or whoever, it really changes things. It shakes your core morals and values, you may even have a permanent change in how you view things in the world.
Hmmm. Ms Heard took pictures of her husband in awkward and humiliating positions but she did not take pictures of her cut up feet or her other injuries she spoke of. Did I miss these?
Don’t forget the broken nose and being punched in the face countless times and being flung around like a rag doll and cut arms and feet because of all the broken glass, & of course having a bottle repeatedly forced into her vagina! That girl would have been a complete mess & would have had to be hospitalised .
Exactly!
Yeah and that's love? Taking pics of ur hubby in compromising positions or provoking him when he's at his worst then recording the reaction when he got upset.. what a loving caring wife she was!
I hope the jury gets to see the photo of her doing scenes for Dutch Girl, dancing around in a leotard with bare feet right after she supposedly got her ass kicked and her feet cut up with all the Glass he dragged her through in Australia-Smh..the only person with documented injuries in this relationship was JD!
Yup I knew someone that was the picture queen Yet didn't have 1 picture of the alleged abuse... she completely reminds me of Amber (in behavior) fear of abandonment manipulative liar... im wondering if she has the same disorder as Amber...its disgusting behavior
Never see scars in back or feet
The pictures of him literally just sleeping are so creepy to me. It reminds me of my abusive ex who would take pictures/video of my reactions to his abuse to use out of context. Like she was just trying the whole time to record things that she could use to kind of look suspicious, and since none of the pictures are particularly shocking she just has a metric ton of pictures of him asleep sitting up, which older men do all the dang time, but she's trying to make it seem so sinister. She shows a picture of him asleep with a little blanket on and is like "yes this is when he was accusing me of having affairs" which... excuse me, how is this evidence of that?... honestly very sad.
two words "Gone Girl" the parallel is uncanny! I am sorry for what you experienced with your ex.
Exactly! Like the poor guy is as old as my dad and it wouldn't be hard for me to gather a hundred pictures of him sleeping various places at various times, after work(or yard work) and a burbon to relax he's out like a light 😂 but according to amber heard that would be him On a bEnDeR PaSsEd oUt
“THIS IS WHEN HE ACCUSED ME OF HAVING AFFAIRS” “….he was talking in his sleep?”
I think the judge is being super patient in order to close appeal gaps. She's over-compensating for AH's lawyer, who could, IMHO, be considered incompetent.
@Beverley Steichen I feel that while aggressive Rottenborn is pretty good at his job.
@@Laroac except for objecting to his own question 🤣
@@missrandom7145 That wasn't Rottenborn
@@Laroac I love it when and how Johnny calls him Mr Rottenborn… the way he looks at him when he calls him that is delightfully snarky…
I thought same thing
Her dramatic tales about how much she adored those children was weird. Johnny said his kids wanted nothing to do with her. She has lied about everything
Her father was a an addict and she said “ I didn’t understand”! She’s getting so caught up in her lies.
I agree. My father was an addict and I recognize addiction signs miles away. I don’t have to “figure them out”.
Both her parents were addicts?
But, they also both held jobs, her mum worked for a govt agency, so wouldnt have been poorly paid...!
She kept saying she supported her family....!
What a crock
She has secret audio recordings of him moaning when he was "drunk", but no recordings of him threatening to kill her, screaming at her, calling her vile names?.......I have questions
The level of abuse she alleges simply isn't reflected in the evidence she provides. Heard took pictures of minor injuries, like when she had a cut on her lip she alleges Depp did. However, she has no pictures or medical reports of the horrific abuse she alleges. Heard described in court how Depp broke her nose, pinned her down on glass leaving her arms, feet and back 'all cut up' and the horrific bottle incident. After these extreme acts of violence, that person would almost certainly require medical help.
yeah he wasn't drunk. people who are drunk don't usually sound like that. that is the sound of someone in pain.
clearly she has manufactured the entire thing in my opinion based on everything we have seen so far
That poor bastard was in agony
It sounds like he was going through drug withdrawals, meaning he was actually clean.
As one who has lived years of the worst IPV , I didn't believe a word she said. It may have had elements of half truths but the story itself was created in her mind to win this case and her reputation back.
When I started to talk about my experiences I came across with no emotion, I had to separate myself from the memories in order to vocalize my experiences. Others I know physically broke down, they didn't go from falling apart to fine to falling apart like this. The over dramatization mixed with SO MANY descriptions of her feelings and details and then say she can't remember in between, rings terribly untrue.
Narcissists, sociopaths... CAN lie about things this swrious and create elaborate stories that never end, just to get sympathy or ruin someone.
I found no sincerity in any of her testimony, I literally can't wait to hear cross examination!!
Completely with you on all of this !👍
I shouldn’t wish this on any humans but I would kind of like to see her spend a few days with my ex-husband and his razor blades
Yep I agree
It's getting really old how people, like yourself, are constantly saying things like "When I would talk about my DV, I was very emotional consistently", or "barely able to talk", etc. Everyone is different. Every situation is different. You can't paint everyone with such a broad brush. Or expect them to say and do the same things others have. I was in a very abusive relationship/marriage for over 2 decades. When I finally filed for divorce, I was able to keep it together, even though I was nervous AF. My Attorney told me not to show emotion, and to only speak when asked a question. Some days I was all over the place. Some days not being able to remember certain things. Some days angry, sad, frustrated, afraid, you name it! Insert every emotion there is when you're re living such a nightmare for so long. 15 yrs have passed and it still affects me. Of course I'm in a much better place now than I was back then. I did question some things/actions during direct, but I don't know her personally. I'm not Amber Heard. Her story is different than mine, and probably yours. Different people, different backgrounds, different personalities, different situations, etc. It seems that she has tried to move on, yet Depp keeps dragging her back to court. That has to be frustrating as shite.
Specially the one description of the filthy carpet and also the detailed description of her breath on the “ window of the door of the car “ 😬 The intensity with which she is describing the alleged assaults - should have made her look like battered up.
Dude she seriously took audio of him in pain detoxing and saying he’s howling and being abusive. Oh my god she exploited everything there was to exploit about him. Just wow. What an awful person. I can’t believe how much I’m commenting on this she’s unbelievable I can’t imagine what he went through if I’m exhausted watching her testify in court and he did this for years. No wonder he drinks and does drugs.
Yea she had so much time taking photos and audios instead of being proactive lol. To me, she appears to be someone who is vengeful. If I love and care for someone, I definitely would not do that. Invading privacy. I feel she had planned all of this.
Plus the fact making noises like that in general is super common with people with neurodivergencies especially when in stressful situations (stimming). Like if someone filmed me everytime I was going "Aaaaaaa" just because I like the way it feels in my throat or would probably look pretty damn concerning too
I'm on opiates for RSD. I have withdrawal feelings if I take my medication late. I could not imagine being so addicted to pain pills and having to detox. That is something I have always feared being on pain pills for 15 years so I take them only when I have to which is daily but try not to every 12 hours. But boy my body starts feeling so weird that I have to take a pill even if I feel pain wise I'd be ok to wait. I feel for Johnny and everyone that has to detox off pain meds.
Who really does that if she wasn't planning on doing this or blackmailing him from the start? Who would want to humiliate their partner by recording them detoxing?
I know I feel like doing drugs and drinking just listening to her ramble on and on and on and on and on. I need a shot of tequila and a joint 😂😂
I will absolutely scream bloody murder if the jury doesn't see through this woman's terrible acting. I believe maybe 15% of what she has said and that 15% is the part where he bought her tons of gifts and treated her like a princess and he did drugs. I don't believe a word of the abuse. I think even the verbal abuse is being cherry picked to a ridiculous degree.
They have to pick ⛏️ apart the verbal abuse for at least 2 reason: there is no physical abuse and they're trying to hide or diminish the verbal abuse from her. I can think of other reasons but that's what popped into my head 😂 when I read the comment.
I also wanna note as someone who was in a physically and verbally abusive relationship, I eventually got to the point where I too called my abuser a number of horrible things after he put me through hell so I am completely sympathetic to anything Johnny spat her way since it has been proven he was directing it towards his abuser 😓
Seriously, the kids on tik tok are better at acting than her during this testimony...
I think she even lied about the drugs and drinking a bit. Yes, he clearly has substance abuse issues. That's a given. But she has exaggerrated his use in some ways and downplayed or omitted her role in exacerbating his issues at other times. At one point she says he took 8-10 pills because she "did the math" to figure that out. Her lawyer then asks whether he took that many or that's how many were left. Obviously, Amber had gone off script from what they discussed.
In one of the many recorded arguments, Amber tries to drink fron JD's wine glass when she has her own. He tells her their relationship has gone past the time when they could share glasses. She freaks out of course. It sounds like he gives her his glass and takes hers. Someone pointed out that his speech starts to slur DURING the convo. She may have done the whole thing just to get him to take her glass into which she slipped something.
She uses his under-the-influence behavior as an attack on his character, but how much of that behavior was because she plied him with or secretly laced his food/drink with additional substances?
@@mewho6199 never even thought about that being a possibility! She is like the real life Gone Girl. She needs to be locked up honestly.
The way she scrunches her face up in disgust when she’s describing how much she loves johnnys kids 😂🥴 she scares the crap outta me. She would happily push them off a cliff when nobody’s looking, I can feel it. She definitely has Cinderella step mother vibes.
I am so glad he never changed his will and, and it would not surprise me if she didn't drug him to take pictures/ videos!
She is also closer in age to them than she is to Johnny
She couldn’t care less about his children she’s mentioning them to get a rise from JD. It’s how narcissists work. They antagonise and antagonise with what they know goes to the heart of the other person. Then the other person reacts in anger and they say see look they’re crazy!
YIP..... Black widow vibes...
Hahhaa Cinderella step mother vibe.
Dr. Curry was on freaking point with her! I don’t believe a word she is saying. No tears, no real emotion, just emptiness. She is just saying what she thinks other victims would say. Getting slapped hurts and you would remember that feeling. She’s pathetic and a liar!
Ya she says it didn't hurt her. She felt nothing. Even after she was raped by a bottle didnt feel pain and bleeding the next day she didnt feel anything! My ass! She just wanted to leave that stuff out.
I don't at all support Amber Heard, but as someone with mental health issues and many abusers over the years, there comes a point where you just run out of emotion to put forth.
The worse is that the woman have no limits, everything is open every intimate part of their lives. She is so finished in Hollywood and what man will trust her ever?
@@user-jf5db2dv7r She’s bisexual. No man might trust her, but she’ll find women who do.
@@user-jf5db2dv7r She prefers girls .
Did anyone else notice when AH talked about JD's first marriage proposal she made the comment about getting butterflies "under her skin" which I thought was a really weird thing to say then she talked about the second proposal and only showed genuine happiness when she talked about the "humongous" diamond ring. I really believed she was happy when she got that ring!
Yeah like it kinda grossed her out? Made me think of someone saying they feel like they have bugs crawling on their skin but oooooh a giant diamond! $$$$$$ shes a gross human being
Butterfly under skin equal ecstasy
Yeah, *weird* is exactly how i described it too. It is like she's never had a genuine feeling and she's using a common expression, but got it laughably wrong.
I commented this somewhere else. She showed disgust and anger during his first proposal but was only genuine when she talked about the ginormous diamond at the second one. The "Goldigger" song immediately came into my head when I saw her pleasure at remembering that.
The reason there were two proposals is because the first time the ring he had (the ring he showed Savanah Guthrie in an interview where he first reveals he's engaged to amber) she was unhappy with how small it was so he kept the damn thing and wore it himself and bought the humongous diamond ring she got so excited about the second go round.
If he had been so “controlling” over her scripts etc, how come he didn’t know about her filming details in New York.
he was not controlling...she wishes...but she was the one who wanted to control him...but sorry 😐!
What a liar!!!she wishes!!! he broke he her nose??
@@floweragarcia4377 I think they're being sarcastic.....
I watched her testimony live, now I’ve come back to watch with Emily’s commentary. At about 2.30 Emily says “something about this is odd”, i don’t think Emily could have imagined just how odd it was about to get.
Looking back at it now it’s even funnier. Especially watching dr Hughes testimony and Emily being outraged about it and knowing Dr Spiegel would be coming up 😂
Amber is “effectively” showing a great example of flight of ideas. Giving long winded responses jumping from one thought to next and still managing to not answer the questions asked.
That's why she needs Elaine to help lead her through. Ugh
I feel so bad for that baby.
@Anna Versteeg Amber had a baby through a surrogate. I think that's what she was referring to.
I remember…I don’t remember…🤢🤮🤬🤬🤬
listening to her testimony after depp's team's psychologist perfectly illustrated the mannerisms and vocabulary and mental gymnastics she would do is uncanny...
Side note- If you watch The Rum Diaries- she's a lot like her character. I have a copy of it, but only watched it once years ago. I rewatched it the other day- after their characters meet, Johnny's character said, "Oh God. Why did she have to happen? Just when I was doing so good without her. " truer words were never spoken!
I agree. I rented the movie a couple of weeks ago.
Johnnys character in London fields also says to her face “do you have a personality disorder, narcissist ? “ you could tell he was living for that line.
I and also, she said, and I quote: “ we were walking out of the bedroom, and Johnny slapped me IN THE FACE, and I TURNED TO LOOK AT HIM”. No shit. She seriously said that
No kidding . Time stamp?
I don't believe for a second any of johnnys security would do nothing if he was beating on her. They all seemed professional decent guys I don't care he was their boss they wouldn't allow it
Very good point!
Agree. Not even for her, but for HIM. It protects HIM to keep a DV case off his back.
Funny how the only security to ever see her with a bloody nose was the guy who passed away and can't testify...
When they asked his security guy if he’d ever physically seen Johnny do drugs other than weed and he answered with “no, he would never embarrass me like that” makes me feel like the security guy wouldn’t stand for any shenanigans reguardless of how big of a star Johnny is. So I highly doubt he would watch him beat his wife and not do or say something…
And all her friends were living next door. Why would he let that happen if he wanted to control and isolate and abuse her.
Ok, she was asking him on advice for her career. She wanted to know how to become a Meryl Streep and not Pam Anderson. So when he questions her outfit or roles/auditions it’s because SHE ASKED FOR HIS GUIDANCE. Rightly so, he has navigated his film choices quite well. So for her to turn it around afterwords to make it a controll thing, like he’s a terrible man ,instead of the helpful input SHE ASKED FOR is maddening!!! Such a manipulative sick move
For such a short relationship, this is the longest, most drawn out relationship ever. From this testimony, I think her frustrations about her career are because she didn't get roles because she isn't at all a good actress, and like the doctor stated, she blames everything on another. The fact her only large role gotten has been Aquaman, which Depp set up, shows that, both he helped her career and the only major role she's ever gotten was as a favor for him, not on her talent or merit.
He had a HUGE influence on her career & she's PISSED now that she's going to have to go back to pulling herself up by her own bootstraps. This is likely why she was sleeping with Elon.
Amber wanted to be a "humanitarian" after meeting angelina jolie, friend of johnny. She copies others personalities.. she just needed a case to fight for. And choose feminism.....
@@stellaallbright4750 I was thinking the same thing! To me she never loved Johnny she loved his status.
I can’t imagine being in a relationship where my spouse is spending so much time taking photos of me SLEEPING and just recording everything I do..it’s giving manipulation vibes and I’m not into this at all. It’s scary honestly x
whats worse is some of this wasnt in CA so he might not have known abt them unil discivery happened
Yes it is weird that your abuser would invite your "BFF" to live near you or with you cause one of the first things is to alienate you from your support group to control you.
This is a very good point!! Step one is isolating the victim.
Absolutely!! 💯 great point!!
Good point
Bingo.
She's happy about the 2nd proposal because she had an audience and got an enormous diamond.
💯💯
Did she say she stared him down on the plane for embarrassing her? Never have I ever heard of an abuse victim staring down their abuser. That would certainly not diffuse or stop the abuse. It would be a hard push on the escalation button.
Left alone leaving a 💩 in your alleged abuser’s bed 🤨🤥😅💀🤡
@@maomi1852 Yes and note that everything you just described a victim doing sounds like Johnny
I think she says those things because she wants to appear like she is 'hard' it reminds be of those bully type people you get in every town where they have a reputation of don't mess with me and fighting. She is talking out of both sides of her mouth. She even said "you should see her" when a photographer asked her why her foot was in a cast, wtf. She is weird.
Her testimony doesn’t line up with the experiences of other DV victims or the detox process of addicts or SO of addicts. No one wants sex deep into detox. The nerves feel like they’re on fire is how it’s been explained to me
OMG Elaine literally brought up the point that “she never went anywhere without makeup on” and she just said no makeup cause of him…. Wth is wrong with these people.
I think she keeps narrating emotions (ie. "I know it's confusing, but," "I know it doesn't make sense, but," "It sounds silly, but," etc.) for a couple of reasons. 1. To appear more endearing and relatable to the jury 2. She wants to evoke agreement in the jury's mind. And 3. She wants to create an overall more believable narrative by covering her bases. She acknowledges gaps and things that don't exactly seem to make sense to try to appear more honest and forthcoming.
Right. If I was on the jury I'd be annoyed at her trying to make conclusions for me.
Yes
@@czhaok Exactly. It'd make me trust her even less that she's trying to elicit certain emotions from me.
This is how borderlines operate. They want you to see and agree with the fantasy that they’ve created and in order to do that, you HAVE TO be a part of (participant in) their delusion. So she tells you what to think/ feel and presents it as if it’s fact.
It reminds me of Amanda Knox and how she had to hammer home how strange things were and how confused she was.
3:12:21 “I use it with my kids all the time. What happened at school today? ‘I’m bored’ Objection: non responsive.” That made me laugh so much. Love it!
She’s either misguided or emotionally ignorant if she thinks coming off as angry and petulant about JD’s addiction issues reads like a victim. Generally victims of DV stay in abusive relationships out of an admixture of fear of and compassion for their abuser. If she had an iota of empathy in her voice as Johnny did for her in his testimony she would have had greater chances of swaying the jury. In this case, her performance reads exactly like Dr. Curry’s testimony indicated - histrionic, BPD.
I agree with you 💯 because when I first started listening,and watching her pathetic attempt of telling her story I was thinking OMG! Dr Curry pegged her down to a tee..
plus, she wants to paint herself as having loved him and helped him through it...yet clearly thinks struggling with addiction AUTOMATICALLY makes you an abuser and loser. Theres ZERO empathy for what those with addiction face, nevermind that if I was being abused in the way Depp describes, I'd probably accidentally get addicted to drugs to while trying to numb the pain. Abusers, esp those with histrionic, are quick to turn the faults of everyone else into a personal attack but can never evn admit ONE fault of theirs (her going on the claim shes only ever done drugs twice and otherwise shes a perfect angel...) Her supporters also have a nasty habit of victim blaming and making addiction sound like it makes you a monster. its disgusting
@@rainestar82 well said! She shows no signs of empathy towards his disease. Getting clean and sober and staying that way is a lifelong process. She didn’t seem supportive in the work he’d have to do on a daily basis. The abuse he sustained would make it difficult to stay clean, I’d probably relapse too, accidentally on purpose. You know to numb.
@@rainestar82 Exactly, and btw opioids (and maybe cocaine) are more likely to *elevate* mood, if anything. Those substances don’t seem likely to magically turn one into an angry, physically abusive, monster …he may have referred to his *addiction* as a monster he struggled with, but I don’t think they made that clear in testimony. I wonder if they’ll circle back to that later.
if she was the victim, she would never chase him to fight more. She corners him and while he does lash out emotionally, which might not be right for sure but even the tamest of bunnies will lash out if pushed into a corner. It is a flight or fight syndrome. If he actually caused physical abuse to her, she would NEVER chase him to a room. In fact, quite the opposite. If she was truly the abusee she would have that "walking on egg shells" feeling and would not move much or say much at all if he got fired up, because she would be afraid anything she says or does would set him off. No this is a classic narcissistic abuser response.. chasing after him and fighting more, pushing the limits. You do not need a fancy degree to know that a typical abused person would NOT push the boundaries and chase the fight!
The only time I fought back was when my ex-husband, after beating me up, packed my son's things and told me he was taking him. I called the police in the bathroom while he was packing. The cops didn't come for what seemed forever when I said he was hitting me but when I started screaming into the phone two of them showed up and I walked out of the bathroom to hear them tell him to put the child down and turn around with his hands up. I grabbed my son and went back inside and they took my ex away. Definitely afraid, anxious, so many emotions going through me. But all I thought about at that time was my baby. *These comment sections are becoming like little therapy sessions, with people not only standing with Johnny but some sharing publicly the abuse they endured and a lot of people supporting one another. Beautiful.
Yes, almost like she waa inviting it, it makes no sense unless this is all a set up
Yes and he always tried to avoid stuff with her! She’s just unrelenting . I mean cant you tell when its time to leave it alone and to tomorrows another day?!
Zero insight
Watching Emily D. Baker get Emily D. Pissed Off at the incompetence of these lawyers is by far THE best way to spend an afternoon.
😂😂
Umbridge calling the doctor the wrong name multiple times, not being able to pronounce medications or drugs, not seemingly understanding the basics of testimonies…. Girl it’s time to retire 😂
What in the little house on the prairie is that dress Heard is wearing. I died, came back just to be dead!
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"Cry" but no tears. Let her talk - more blabber = more open to cross. Former law enforcement here. My sister is former DA now a criminal judge. We're having a BLAST with this trial. Your comments are right on (we're a little more savage than you are). We are BEGGING for evidence, ANY kind of evidence at all.
I can’t wait for cross 😂
You wont be getting any cos there is none 😂😂
Johnny Depp is the same man of integrity that we've ALWAYS seen and known him to be, because his character is consistent. The person whose character is really in question is that of Amber Heard. She is a selfish and immature person, who relishes in prolonging arguments to exhaustion. She was an angry person long before he met Johnny. Johnny was who he is now and thank goodness he divorced her. She was upset from day 1 about the prenuptial agreement, so here we are.
I love your channel! So glad I found you! Love your commentary. I’m learning so much from you!
I noticed that she gets energized when she refers to herself. It also seems like she was told to appeal to the jury emotionally.
Yes she loves herself and money. That’s it.
else's.! She refers to my wedding, my studio (in the rented house in Australia). I don't think she ever refers to anything as Johnny's.
She sounds more like shes trying to tell a convincing story than telling her story.
She keeps saying how he was passing out and crying uncontrollably, but he was filming at the same time. How could he be working while being so out of control?
Having been in a relationship with someone who abused drugs, there are elements to her story regarding his behavior that ring true. My late husband was an absolute nightmare after he had been on a cocaine binge. The paranoid episodes were insane. He believed I had trained with the FBI (we're South African!), he was convinced I had installed cameras in our light fittings and that I was communicating with the FBI through 2 way mirrors. He would wake me up and ask me who the 7 men were who were with me in the bed. It was NUTS! But never once during his drug psychosis did he ever hurt me or even threaten to hurt me. Drugs didn't turn him into a wife-beater
I’m sorry to hear about your experience. I also have dated a drug addict and shit doesn’t line up either . Sending you love 💕
hope ur doing well hon
Are you sure it was cocaine? It sounds like it was laced 😳
@@Justice4Mica this will happen after a few years of abuse and using extreme amounts. It really sounds more like crystal meth. I’m other words, years of abuse causes psychosis. I doubt he was using that much cocaine tho. You can’t do the jobs he was doing with that level of drug addiction.
I agree n have been the one seeing ppl, lol. She would've got farther running with "he was an abusive alcoholic" than bringing all the drugs up. As someone who has seen & done it all, grew up surrounded by drug use and with 9 yrs of sobriety I have to say it's very rare someone does drugs and gets abusive. Not that it doesn't happen. Every drug affects everyone different. It would've personally been more believable for me had she claimed he was this way while detoxing. Now that's a lil more believable. I could see someone in detox getting a bit aggressive, say if someone was holding meds over their head...(hint hint). Alcohol, she would be 1000x more believable!
It's so obvious when she's telling a "story" & when she's being honest about her feelings - I really hope the jury can hear/see this also. I have heard that it is primarily a male jury.
She just sounds so fake. It's almost like she is reading aloud from an overdescriptive book!!
We get to sit here watching and go back and watch red flag moments (aka every second she's on the stand) as many times as we need to. It's so outlandishly easy to miss things like key expressions and body language when you get to see things just once in real time and have to make your brain move along and keep up with new information coming at a pace you have no say in.
I do hope they bring up the Corden show again because there’s testimony from her makeup artist that AH had no bruising, no split lip & no broken nose. In fact the make up girl was shocked when AH said after the show wow I did that with two black eyes & a broken nose.
is she lying about most of the stuff she talk about
@@LC-ru1xl Yes, she is. & There are some REALLY incredible ppl that have been watching from the start & remember everything in interviews & depositions & testimonies. They have been crazy good & bringing attention to those. She has contradicted herself so many times it's ridiculous! But don't take anyone's word for it. Make your mind up. Based on what you feel from her testimony & the evidence. I absolutely recommend going to Incredibly Averages channel & watching (listening) to the hours of audio & look at her testimony from the UK trial. Check out her deposition video from I think 2016. That is a REAL..... peach. Observe channel has a really GREAT breakdown from that deposition. But yes it's a fact shes lied about a LOT! Is everything a lie? I'm not really sure factually. But to me.... Yes I pretty much don't believe anything she's says now. Happy Hunting! ❤️
30:00 she’s sobbing, lawyers asks a question. There’s a slight pause for them to get evidence and BAM she’s got her neutral bored face on again. It’s like the director said cut.
My sister broke my nose when I was 7. I remember vividly how much it hurt, how much it bled, and exactly how it happened. For reference, I am 36 and will be 37 the end of this year. 30 years later I can recall the pain. And the bruising lasted for over a month. I wasn't hit with a grown man's skull. I was hit with hard plastic, swung hard and into my face by my sister. (It was a hula hoop from the 90's and they were heavy hard plastic) So yeah, I don't believe she doesn't remember the pain.
Awhile back I was in the courthouse in Newark, NJ . I passed the family court . I was absolutely horrified at the state a few women were in. They were waiting for the judge .
Punched in eye sockets, broken noses , bruises, hair missing, teeth missing
Amber has tied up police officers, lawyers and courts preventing real victims that needed to be protected.
I know someone with BPD. She is exactly like Amber. Never ever sees, or admits, her responsibility in any mess she's created.
One time she called us and was trying to get us to pick her up from her BF's because they'd gotten in a fight. He was such a nice guy. We were not taking her bait and just trying to get her to calm down instead. Then out of the fn blue she says "You need to come get me, he hit me!" We asked if he'd hit her just this very second and she said no, earlier. Ok, lady... if he'd hit you before you called us, I'm sure you'd have led with that. She wasn't getting the reaction from us that she wanted and started to make shit up to get us to feel sorry for her. Disgusting.
Yup
That's exactly how this testimony felt today. "Here's my story....nobody cares....ok he did all this destruction....nobody cares... ok he did this horrible thing with a bottle....WAT why not fucking mention that before?
I have worked in addictions for over 25 years, my husband works in a prison where addictions are rife, the audio footage sounds like JD is withdrawing off the substances he was addicted to, he was most likely in a lot of physical and mental pain and there she is trying to exploit his good efforts at trying to recover from addiction. Recovery is very painful and the audio demonstrates that she repeatedly sabotaged his efforts in order to continue her physical and psychological control over him.
Yea that audio sounds so painful. Idk why she felt there would be any benefit to secretly record him in that moment. Isn’t he way too weak to do any kind of harm to her or anyone ? I guess all the secret records was her way to build up circumstantial evidence of his drug and alcohol addiction as proof of abuse. It could even be “just in case” for her in the beginning but got out of control
i don't have personal experience with this, but it feels weird to me that if she wanted him to be sober she was doing drugs and drinking around him all the time. If I was from the bottom of my heart trying to help an addict recover from their addiction, I would try to avoid putting in their path the thing they're trying not to use.
@@kayfelker8268 yes she was sabotaging not supporting JD. She did not want him to be clean and sober because she gave him the booze daily, she took drugs with her friends around him, she is an enabler and a very mentally disordered one at that. That is why she was sent away by doctors, staff and friends. She was there to ruin him, because she felt that is how she could maintain control over him.
The pics of "Johnny passed out"....
My Lord the man works LONG hours filming. We are not stupid!
This is maddening! She’s saying she’s an angel and Johnny’s a devil. According to her she has done nothing wrong, not even a little bit.
Sounds like some things Dr. Curry said tho. Can't wait for rebuttal!
Yep!! It's making me furious!!!
I noticed when someone is a abuser it's starts at a early age and it is a pattern in every relationship. AH has a pattern of this behavior and JD does not.
is she lying about most of the stuff she talk about
It must have been so hard for Johnny to listen to this witch talk about his kids as if she was genuinely EVER concerned for their well-being. Him being able to hold his composure speaks volumes.
She does a lot of self-editing as she testifies. My personal favorite is:
"I took a bunch of sleeping pills- well, not a bunch, two, which is a lot for me."
It doesnt get much more hilariously NOT believable than that. I can smell the bs from my house!
Cuz she’s making it up as she goes along
That gets me every time Two is a lot for her.
That was my favorite one! It was so freaking obvious she was lying.
I am just really confused when she says “it didn’t feel like him” but if he is abusing her all the time it should feel like him this is the norm….. this is one of the many reasons why I can’t believe this woman
Yess!!
well you know at the beginning they look absolutely normal. Both my abusive exes had some some sob story on very hard beginnings in life with shitty fathers that where also abusive that they used to reel me in and play into my maternal instincts and protective tendencies. And they'd use those same traits to keep me from ever leaving, either by accusing me of being a 🐝 or trying to get my sympathy and show that they need me to show them love and affection and that they are getting what they never had and that I'm the most special person. When they started shifting to who they truly are it felt unreal until it was becoming the norm. My first abusive partner was way way worse in his treatment of me, but my second managed to brake me without even laying a finger on me or staying for long. He took what he needed and then after lifting me up dropped me from up high. And they where both coercing intimacy out of me.. I can't put my finger on it but all the clips of hers describing the alleged abuse feel faked and feel to be things I can't relate with. Whereas when Johnny speaks something makes my protective momma bear side kick in and I can almost feel what he feels.
@@sonia94ist I am sorry you had to go through that and I hear you…I totally agree! I just don’t understand at all her recollection of the events the way she describes how she felt in those moments it is very odd not to mention her over exaggerated emotions. One thing is for sure she does need help like really psychological help because maybe she believes it happened who knows
@@sharib6422 yeah thats what I see too. That's why Johnny's side is more believable. He's not putting on a show. Her tears look fake too, like there aren't any. Johnny has the same look all throughout on and off the stand. She looks smug and holier that than off the stand and fake cries on the stand.
She always talked about trying to predict his reactions and behaviors. She was learning his programming. Another thing abusers do. Abusers are good at calculating your next moves and showing their victims to be victimizing them.
Exactly! And him on different substances call for her learning to manipulate in different ways or being unable to. She’s disguising that as concern
AH is a predator how many people has she dated since divorce! It’s been over three years and I only stated tentatively dating!
To be fair, this is also learned if growing up on an abusive household where one or both parents have mood swings. You learn how to be hyper observant to hopefully learn when a bad time is coming.
@@lynned5734 Yes, you would. But that wasn't her testimony. She very clearly stated in that same sentence you are referencing that the having to watch & try to predict what was coming (i.e the hyperawareness you're speaking of due to constant mood swings) was something that she had never experienced b4 & was something very new to her.
So, I get what you're saying but that doesn't apply to AH in this case. Or it very well might but she's obviously lying about it in terms of JD. That's just a part of her whole narrative (or scene as she called it) that she scripted for this.
@@lynned5734 yes, you do I am not a SA or DA survivor but I went thru enough to feel situations before they happen and I am sure somethings might have happend becouse of the drugs and the alcohol, fals friends. I even can relate on standing up and confromt him but if you got hit your rather in shock or you are angry! She shows anger an triggerd him just more by calling him out! She self told so!
it is so satisfying to hear someone comment on this who knows what they're talking about! thanks for doing these
You can literally HEAR the tone and inflection of her voice when something feels truthful. Her cadence become faster.
yea she stops the fake stutter & breathiness
Johnny when he described being hit, he told the sensation and feeling. She on the other hand describes the surroundings and objects. It doesn’t feel like first hand experience more like someone witnessing it.
Yes! Her verbiage is so disconnected, distant, and repetitive. She was in love with the things Johnny and his fame afforded her. And it gets on my nerves how she called him a thing. No, boo-boo! YOU are the thing! Scamber needs to have several seats.
He also physically demonstrated his own actions in the first person unlike her always showing and describing his actions.
Yes! Like when she describes the alleged bottle in the v incident. She kept saying! “I felt this pressure.” Not pain, no description of how the pain of a broken bottle felt.
Part of PTSD is the triggers. Those are usually smells, sounds, tones of voices, things that effect the senses and subconsciously transport the person back.
So if she said , every time a hear ice clink in the glass a certain way, or smell we'd or jet fuel - I get anxious. That's believable PTSD.
Which can happen even without physical abuse. If the person feels the arguments or relationship were traumatic enough.
@@theConquerersMama but those are triggers though, triggers that remind you what you went through. If she said I can’t see a carpet without it reminding me of when he slapped me around and how I fell on it then it would’ve been believable but to say I saw a dirty carpet and was focus on that instead of telling what she felt and the fear it’s like she is speaking as the someone witnessing it.
it makes my fucking skin crawl how much she's trying to bring johnny's kids into this, no doubt because he's gone through lengths to protect them from it
She knows she is pushing his buttons she wants him to "lose it"....
BINGO
I wonder if a lot of the problems in JD and AH's relationship come from her extreme disappointment in not being able to be the perfect caregiver/mother figure in that relationship. Instead of being a loving wife who controlled the perfect home and husband, instead of being the perfect caregiver who was able to nurse JD back to health from his various addictions, every grand scheme to be the heroine (and receive the praise of the many powerful, respected friends JD had) was thwarted by JD's repeated relapses and her own shoddy attempts to help (not shoddy because she was trying to be ineffective help, but shoddy because she was completely unwilling/unable to accept the correction needed in order to be effective help).
Failing to produce the results she had expected from her relationship with JD, I wonder if she turned her attempts to build a perfect family (with herself in the starring role as the beloved, caring mother) to JD's kids, attempting to (as she is doing for the court) uphold herself and smear JD in order to remove him (the problematic piece that keeps ruining her perfect plans) from her perfect imagined scenario. But then JD removed the kids from her sphere of influence.
@@kalilak9701 I hear what your saying and there probably is a element of truth in that... But I don't think she has every had a noble idea in her head unless it ultimately serves her... She is a classic gold digger with a huge amount of malevolent intent..... I
@@missy3429 I agree that she definitely has malevolent intent now! But I bet SHE thinks she is the heroine. I have an aunt with similar personality issues (and so have done a bit of reading about them) and one problem with this sort of combination of lack of empathy and severe insecurity (which coalesces into a rejection of and subsequent lack of a stable, internal, positive sense of who we are as a distinctly valuable human) is that everything starts to look like a reasonable justification to do whatever it takes to remain the heroine.
To admit when we've done something seriously wrong takes a lot of internal fortitude that is lacking when one is suffering from such severe insecurity. To step out of the "spotlight" and let someone else have what might otherwise have been our share of the adulation of others takes internal fortitude. The sort of internal fortitude that is completely lacking in those suffering from these sorts of personality disorders.
When someone cannot handle being wrong (or giving anyone else a chance to steal the "spotlight" by being correct) lying and abuse can become an internally justifiable means to control the narrative or (from the perspective of someone suffering from such a disorder) to put the narrative back on its proper ("normal") course.
I'm not saying that people suffering from these disorders will necessarily turn to abuse, and I'm not trying to excuse it either. I'm just noticing how it could very well have been (from AH's perspective) a "the path to Hell is paved with good intentions" situation.
I'd speculate that AH's thinking was probably already seriously warped by her personality disorder before she met JD, and such warped thinking could (I think) very easily result in the above scenario... And then the observed results.
Funny the only security guard that’s ever around is the gentleman that’s passed away Jerry Judd
Very convenient!
Lucky for her. I dont think she would be able to say any of this if he was alive.
And she told her mother things that can't be proved either. 😡 manipulation at its best.
Right? You’d think that Jerry would tell the other security guards about the things he saw also. It’s very fishy that these things could happen and none of the other security guards were aware
*he was twice my age* was mentioned multiple times in her testimony but all of her partners have been much older than her. That's how she picks em! Girl please, don't act like he "preyed" on you or something because you were so young.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Everyone you date is *older* than you!!!
Right?!! And it's not it's like she was 18 or 19 or something or even her first relationship or serious one.
I've heard her make the comment a number of times now, "I couldn't win." Like their relationship was a series of events in which one person had to be the winner.
That’s a narcissist right there. It’s all about winning.
Total narcissistic characteristic there!
If you watch his security when he’s signing autographs, his security team wrap their arms around him and force him to move away from fans. There’s no way those men will sit by and allow that to happen on a plane. They protect him and put hands on him to move him along. I believe 100% they would put hands on if they witnessed him engaging in DV, and move him away.
Definitely. From the everything i have seen of his bodyguards. They are top notch. Which is also supported by how god damn long they stay with him.
It's interesting she mentioned that she invited her therapist to the engagement party (that she described around the 1 hour mark). I feel like she said that to give her therapist more credibility, but it also conveys lack of client-practitioner boundaries on her part (common with BPD) and would be incredibly unethical if her therapist actually accepted the invitation (therapists will sometimes go to events like funerals if it is supportive to the client and the therapeutic relationship, but a party like AH was describing would be inappropriate).
Boundaries….the shrink next door ..true story
Also they were very crazy about Dr curry and the muffins and also how she went to johnnys place for an Interview 🤔
@@maquelhoutz5966 now how crazy is that. A husband being kind to his wife…and that one that ambers team had to go on and on about. I hope dr curry’s husband knows how much in live chat those muffins played a big role n this case. And how stupid of them to make a big deal. There’s no guilty or not guilty in this case….but Johnny and just career will sky rocket. Thanks….
@@maquelhoutz5966 dr curry was meeting the legal team to discuss the case. It wasn’t a party
Rewatching this many months later, and it hit me: if the abuse was so constant, why mention only the disputed dates and events?
🤣 Emily summed up Heard’s team so well: “they keep trying to make fetch happen” 🤣🤣 oh my goodness yes! They need a lesson in hearsay
I had FOMO from how much time they spent whispering with the judge 😂😂
Ha “Why is Johnny so obsessed with me??”
A major giveaway she’s putting on a show is how she’s staring at the jury the entire time. Everyone else looks away to think about what they’re saying, which the brain does naturally when it’s trying to recall something. So the way she goes on and on while hardly ever looking away shows it’s a script being acted out.
Not to mention how she’s never actually she’s a tear or shown any other indication physically that she’s feeling true emotions
Jodi Arias did the same thing!! It’s so weird
Last week we were praising Dr. Curry for looking at the Jury, were we not? I don't have a horse in this race, I just find it very disturbing that we're focusing on minute body language to try and prove that someone is a liar. Apparently we, as a society, do not know how to talk about male victims of DV without being misogynistic.
@@aimeesmiles9400 As a person who has been abused my gut tells me Heard's testimony from when she talks about her childhood abuse is appallingly real but her testimony about Johnny is absolutely false and she's lying. She is purely appealing to the Jury, acting a role. I feel that she's very, very sick actually.
@@aimeesmiles9400 I personally don't really analyse any body language, but I feel like the difference is that Dr Curry is an objective expert, she is supposed to remember everything and speak confidently and convincingly. Whereas Amber is supposed to be talking about the worst experience of her life that has given her a PTSD, yet it feels like she is just narrating things, similarly to Dr Curry. Johnny didn't look at the jury much and you could tell he was trying to recall things. Amber just feels vey distant from the story itself and more focused on how the story is being told. Do you get what I am trying to get at?
She has been arrested for wife beating are arested for Criminal drug and drunk drive and violence are Fact she has done that she accuse him for and that are Witness ,Photos ,Hospital and She arested for it also in Australia and in USA so more than one Partner and That is a pattern and That is facts
Also, regarding the broken nose, if she testified that she had a broken nose, there would be x-ray for that if she had her nose "fixed" since here it doesn't look like her nose is or was broken. If it was not fixed or returned to place, it would either leave a mark, or her nose would be tilted. I got my nose broken from a basketball game many years ago hitting the head of another player as I was about to steal the ball and he swung his head at the direction of my face, and you can still see that it's still slightly tilted after all these years. Sometimes you can feel something is weird in the area between the length of the nose. Not sure if it's the same for everyone, but me and a couple of people I knew were like this. Though there's were not tilted. If she uses a "broken" nose excuse, she's digging her own grave. Because 1, realigning a broken nose would require surgery because the damage may be more complicated than you think, and there would be paperwork or x-ray for that. No one would advise you to fix your broken nose on your own as you may complicate it even further. You can see she prolly realized this by saying "I'm assuming I had a broken nose". She's only making things worse for her
When my nose was broken, it bled profusely...like a faucet!!! My eyes swelled up and were black! There was NO doubt in my mind, or the perpetrator's, that I had a broken nose. She's a LIAR!
Exactly.
Wow Amber definitely studied her part for this day in court, just look at the librarian/ teacher outfit, her mannerisms, constant pauses to think of her lies and staring at the jury so intently. And her Lawyer constantly leading the conversation and trying to jog her memory sounds like they rehearsed together. It's very obvious Amber used Johnny to propel her status. Anyone with an ounce of logic can tell she's lying especially after hearing past recordings of the way she normally talks.
The facial expressions alone are comical it’s like she wants to look like she is crying but just can’t. She reminds me of a contrived child caught red handed and trying to shift blame
I said the exact same
is she lying about most of the stuff she talk about
she sounds like she memorized a text book on DV patterns and behaviors.
Yeah. It's what it sounded like to me too.
Exactly.
I've noticed that the only time she seems genuine is when she is talking about her love for him & how heartbroken she was over losing him.... that's when I see & feel real emotion from her. I don't any other time.
I think so too. I think finding those ipad coms with the other gal sealed it though, I mean who would choose elon musk when you could have Johnny Depp. Just a bit scorned. She has rage issues
@@xino_z err... to answer your question ... gold diggers, duh..
There is a recording of a convo with Johnny where she tells him she's gonna frame him, she actually telling him, he seems on it like he's zoned out, or not believing her. I'm not sure why it's not in this trial, hoping they get it in.
She sounds like she's just venting to a therapist. Or recounting her life to a friend who'd be impressed (and appalled) with all the things she's saying.
It also feels like a performance. I'm trying to keep an open mind, but a lot of what Dr. Curry said is REALLY making it hard to listen to this.
And Emily losing her mind with the bad lawyering is hilarious.
In the opening of the trial, Depps team said to the Jury that Amber will put on the performance of a lifetime.
20:00 & 2:45:12 Yes - JD gave AH career advice. He was put in a box of being the “hot, teen heartthrob” early on in his career. IMO JD was giving advice on how to be successful- by taking a variety of roles - instead of always being cast as “the hot girl” with kissing and sex scenes. He wasn’t being controlling he was helping her succeed by learning from his mistakes.
Also, when AH went on the red carpet in a very low cut gold dress with out leaving much to the imagination and including bright red lipstick JD said “yah, I see ya, kid. That’s how they’ll always see ya” (or something to that effect). If AH wanted to be viewed as more than just “the hot girl” she had to dress and act the part - that’s why JD was helping her with her wardrobe // reviewing scripts, etc. and she knows it.
Well said. Same with him saying don't go out to a concert with co stars. Because he's been there and knows that the paparazzi will make more of it than it is or keep those photos to cause trouble later.
Yes, I agree. Especially since we all know that in Hollywood, a woman is ousted from hot, sexy, siren around age 35.
Just imagine living with your enemy who is suppose to be your best friend, constantly taking photos and recordings to discredit you, only Jesus could stand that 🧐 scrutiny.
Exactly
Yea what I find weird is that she started recording him early when they started dating is just weird to me
@@jesusdominguez8017 yeah it’s almost like she planned it from the start which is crazy
And determined enough people got even Jesus sentenced...
Or Johnny Depp apparently!
You know what really bothers me I haven’t heard at all during trial? Her counselor told her a multitude of times she can’t change him, sober him up, there’s nothing she can do very early on. She went to Al- non but never stuck with it. Al-non focuses on her needing to change, her behavior. Lol that’s not for Amber. She needed Johnny as her excuse