"I'm so terrified of this man! He keeps locking himself in the bathroom! He leaves the house when I scream at him and hit him! I'm so afraid for my life!"
I agree and I was hoping they played this recording. Because if at some point they believed she was a victim who was “ scared” this just proves she’s the instigator and abuser. This would of definitely showed me she did it out of spite
It’s interesting how she remembers everything perfectly, until it’s incriminating and inconvenient for her to remember everything. Then she doesn’t quite remember.
I apologize if this is a dumb question but how exactly do civil courts in VA work? I've heard it's a 7 member jury(I think) with a few alternates, do all 7 have to be in agreement or is it a majority rule situation. Could 1 juror essentially hold the whole jury hostage or if there's 1 or 2 holdouts would the holdouts somehow be replaced with the alternates?
it's the alleged PTSD. Selective memory loss because of everything she suffered. But then she proudly refuses to be called a victim! Until she needs to portray herself as one, than she frames a man for DA (and worse). Life is so hard when you're Amber Heard.
the way she delivered intense and yes, sometimes snarky questions/comments before swiftly moving to the next point was so impressive. she knows how to make her point without getting bogged down in arguments with she who is never wrong - but not relent on the important questions heard evades. i’m a law noob but she seems incredible
@@jermainedow1481 i think that’s strategic though, emily said that questions may have more impact on the jury than answers so she could be raising the issue in their mind while saving time for the team’s strongest arguments
I'm an addiction clinician; this is NOT what addicts do. They don't announce their benders. There are no pre-determined "cycles" to using. It is SECRETIVE..NOT announced.
100% agree my ex was addicted to coke and would go on a bender when I least expected him to! Let me mention he was very physically abusive yet on coke and alcohol he never once laid hands on me. Even when I would be in his face yelling at him calling him a “drug addict” and other harsh names. He was too lost in his own world being paranoid about the gov watching him. He would only lay hands on me when he was sober or going through withdraws.
Yeah it’s almost like she doesn’t know anything about the cicle of addiction or domestic V. My dad is an alcoholic and nothing of what she’s saying feels familiar. Specially the part where she cries and does ANYTHING to stop him from using. Loved ones of addicts understand fairly quick that the thing has nothing to do with them, when it’s on it’s on and there’s no power on earth that will stop them if they chose to go on a binge. They’ll lie, they’ll sneak, they are never going to announce themselves specially if your reaction towards it is so extreme. There’s no way in hell you’ll notice until it’s too late and there’s no negotiating, what are the crazy texts about? Even for someone who might be offering help those are too much.
There's quite a few instances she displays misandry.or at the very least old fashioned stereotypes regarding men .she thinks it's weird when men cry and she has this notion that she can't hurt Johnny bc shes a small little female.lots of women have this mindset ,i did at a time as well .she could easily beat the Sh** out of him .he's not even that big or muscular and she trained for movie roles. Not to mention she admitted to hitting with objects like pots and pans . she's the type that would punch a dude then be shocked and claim abuse if he reacted. even if he just pushed her away.
Bruh the fact that she keeps going I couldn’t hurt him… I was like why were you constantly trying to hurt him 😂. Like it’s such a stupid defense… I tried to hit him, your honor, many times, but I just wasn’t successful…😂😂😂 what was going on in her head.
@@angelabowers4914 And remember, she lent her voice to abuse victims, she was one of the faces of MeToo, she should know that abusers can have any gender.
@angelabowers I’ve met her in person at one of my customer service jobs in Burbank, Ca. She’s really not a super tiny female. She was at least my height, 5’6. This was after she got her first nose job….about 2011/2012 at least. She’s taller than Johnny Depp and gives ridiculous straight forward eye contact with very bright blue eyes.
That recording of her berating him is so much more shocking than she understands. You don't talk like that to someone regularly smacking you around. It's unbelievable that she was afraid of him.
Thank you!! That’s what I’ve been saying! I’m a survivor of DV and narcissistic abuse and I 100% agree with this. There would be no way I’d taunt my ex that way.. I’d expect him to get violent if I did… I did anything I could to avoid fights with him.. I definitely didn’t start them!
@@HollieAndApollo EXACTLY! I said it before but now I’m even more firm in my belief. If I provoked my abuser, he would have killed me. He wouldn’t have calmly argued back with me.
@@HaHaHannah1369 100%! For DAMN sure, not calmly argue back as she got cruder, crueler, & louder in his face not allowing him to speak. He wouldn't have begged her to let him leave while they calmed down. He wouldn't have asked her if she was ok. & He for DAMN sure wouldn't have tried to run & hide from her & then when that didn't work & she kept on w\ her hateful mouth pushing every low blow button & trigger from his childhood (that he had revealed to her in a moment of intimacy) step away & start destroying HIS OWN PROPERTY & THINGS! Any true ABUSIVE prick would have ABSOLUTELY shut her mouth up long b4 she uttered 95%of her nonsense!
@@Amber-yq9ee exactly! The first laugh would have been a real backhand to the mouth with real bruises with those real big rings. Laugh in my abusers face? That’s a deathwish. I… I just couldn’t even imagine laughing at him without him laughing first. If he didn’t show he was happy and laughing at something he said first, I couldn’t even smile. That’s provoking. That’s making fun of him. Absolutely not. No.
Who Laugh, mocking and berating at someone they claim had sexual assaulted with a bottle and smacking her regularly so bad she gets cut and broken nose...!?
It is vitally important for Camille to describe AH's allegations of sexual assault indelicately, bluntly, without mincing words and without softening her language because it is serves to demonstrate the actual weight of those allegations and the impact they have on the accused (JD), on the reputation of the accused, and on the public perception of the accused. Softening her language or skirting around the subject could give the impression that AH's allegations aren't especially damaging or that there is some question as to the brutality embedded in the subtext of what AH is alleging. There is a clear reason why hearing it in that way makes people uncomfortable. It should. Because what she is alleging is extremely serious and should not be taken lightly.
Thank you for this explanation! I thought as much, but it is hard to hear anyways. Good to keep in mind what the reasons and benefits for JD's case are in doing this!
Agreed! And at one point Camille stated as much, saying “Bcuz these are very serious accusations…” as she was getting into specifics. Another thing I appreciate, although at times it was annoying, was the judge being so patient with AH’s legal team and all the hearsay/objections. They certainly cannot later say the judge was biased or unfair in any way. It lends to the impact of the verdict which I can now easily see going in JD’s favor, even if it was a longer shot in the beginning d/t the nature of defamation cases and the burden required.
Because every single time that she hit him it was in self defence in her opinion…unfortunately for her, she didn’t do any research into DV victims….we do NOT hit our abusers back, we do NOT hit back in “self defence”, we do NOT, EVER chase our abusers around the house begging them to “talk” to us!
She also phrased it as “that was the first time I landed a blow” which insinuates that she has landed a blow more than once, and that she had tried to hit him before
This is my comfort video. Two powerful, intelligent women taking down a manipulative, spoiled abuser with facts and logic. 10/10 would (and will) calm my anxieties again
It's unbelieveable. She said he beated the shit out of her because of a comment about a tattoo, and then he just sits and listen to her berating and humiliating him? The same person who would clock her for some random stuff were patient enough to stay in a driveway for over 1 fn hour ASKING to go, as a "pretext"? What kind of addicted has patience to wait hours to "go and use", after getting permission to go? This is just freaking unbelieveable.
Yes, and the day before she testified, that when he wanted to start drinking stronger alcohol he asked if she was okay with it, and when she said no, he allegedly then slapped her and proceeded to beat her up. This so doesn't make sense to me.
The gross part is how happy & proud she is Every Damn time a picture of her is shown. She thinks she is so beautiful that whatever she says must be believable. I just do not like her attitude every time a pic or her journal notes are shown. She's shameless in her admiration Of Herself! I don't know anyone who Loves Their Self So Much! Depp is right with those writings, She Loves Herself especially looking at herself in pics (Even in Court)😲
Exactly! There is no watching an hour if you have the stuff. If nothing a quick bathroom trip would have been the only way to get some while she was freaking out. And she isn’t the type to even allow that. We see it all so perfectly now.
okay i 100% agree about not necessarily receiving care for SA. It's probably more common than not. HOWEVER if he used a broken bottle she would ABSOLUTELY NOT be able to avoid medical care.
Didn't she also say in her statements that she wasn't sure if it was broken or not? I'm sure she did. You'd sure as hell know about it. You'd have to have suffered a catalogue of torture to not know if broken glass was inside you!
@@spangol87 Yes. She does say this. This story is one that stands out for me as indicative of absolute untruth because it is such a horrific accusation - above all the rest - that she would certainly have had to address it in ways that she did not. It would have been a torturous event. There cannot be uncertainty regarding whether or not the bottle was broken, for obvious reasons, but also per evidence, since she would not have been able to undergo such an ordeal without any sort of medical treatment or evidence. It simply cannot be.
There's no way she wouldn't KNOW if the bottle was broken. She just throws that in for impact. There is no way we wouldn't feel broken glass, anything sharp would be painfully obvious. No one we would have to wonder if it was broken.
Johnny Depp has the patience of a saint. I don't care what anyone says. If he didn't clock her when she was doing that maniacal laugh and taunting, I don't believe he hit her at all.
So let me get this straight: James Franco a man who has been accused of sexual misconduct more than once is the man that she (an alleged victim of sexual abuse and assault) was comfortable with having in her home? She was comfortable being alone with someone who has been accused of misconduct over and over again but she has PTSD from her traumas? I'm not buying it like at all.
I think that’s a great point, something I am surprised more people have not brought up. Even as a Midwesterner I know some about James Franco sexual misconduct allegations. If those allegations are true, it is hard to imagine a sexual abuse survivor would feel safe around such a person.
@@michelleyamamoto5519 that's actually only partially true women have known this about James Franco since he was doing it. People in his inner circle have even said as much. The same way that people knew about Harvey Weinstein before everything came out for the entire public to know that's how James Franco's situation was to my understanding.
@@Lina_unchained Ok here is what I think of the whole Franco affair, based solely on the fact that she knew Johnny was finally leaving her and she wanted/needed(?) a replacement (due to the nature of the 136 cluster B etc mental illness she has) that was also very famous. He was "teaching"/mentoring his own acting workshop school thing, the women James sexually abused/manipulated into trysts for supposedly helping them inthe industry in the future, were mostly from there, and there is no evidence AH knew any of those women or any of the stories of his previous female coworkers on films, which came out in the news a few years later. Amber and James were not "in each other's inner circle", they made a movie and hung out a few times alone, certainly at least once in Johnny's penthouse complex. I don't think we can assume she knew anything other than that she wanted another super famous boyfriend to replace the one she just lost. All she cared about was her own public image, and ex-wife of Johnny Depp was not how she wanted to be seen. Like the baby she had a surrogate have for her, which I believe was all for public sympathy pretrial. I won't buy her upcoming book, but I cannot wait to read about what crap she's going to make up next. I hope she gets sued again.
lmao i didnt even put it together it was that psychologist she was talking about. She just throws everyone under the bus its probably why Rachel and io no longer speak to her as well
Because "your" looks may even set him off. To speak in an angry or accusatory manner is simply asking for an episode of abuse. (Using your as you, me, and anyone that has experienced abuse)
has anyone notice amber messing with some king of earing ?? shes wearing a sometime of headphone "amber heard " at 54:06 u can see diferentes ear rings on the right of the screen , ,she mores her hand and she looks like shes turning the volume Up ???
I’m dating myself but it feels like watching an episode of ‘Cheaters’ where people flat out deny even after being caught on video (I know it was a heavily scripted show).
I am listening to this... after he's won. BC I couldn't take the stress while it was happening. This is offensive to any person that has been abused. Really disturbing.
yeah, I watched it live, but I was super stressed out thinking she was going to get away with it. It was clear to many of us that she was lying, but you never know how these things will go.
Please forgive this overlong comment. I am a retired psychologist and widow of a California Superior Court Judge. QUESTION: Has anyone asked AH if her injuries are self inflicted? ~~ For many years I had to write reports for the court regarding 72 hour psych evaluations. Many times family members filmed loved ones hitting themselves to create bruising. Black eyes are not easy to achieve but the mottled red marks on AH look like the result of repeated slaps. Try this yourself: place your hand on your cheekbone with fingertips above your eyebrow. You will find the same imprint pattern. Her lip looks like a spoon left in the freezer and placed on her lower lip. It is sad to realize how often this happens. Regarding the clumps of hair: that is not the pattern when hair is ripped out by an attacker. Her bald spots look like taking a tress of hair and twisted until it comes out. Hair falls down in piles, not stretched out like these photos show. It all looks staged. Why weren't forensic crime scene experts used to examine these photos? Forensic experts would catch all of this. AH is showing fatigue from keeping herself in check for prolonged periods of time.
@@helenaawdry8916 thank you, but this circus made me happy to be retired. Both sides retained less than professional experts. Experienced experts would see everything I saw. Who knows how many they rejected before retaining the ones who would say what they want. AH 's team scraped the bottom of the barrel. JD 's team behaves with dignity and grace no matter how difficult AH 's team makes it for them. Camille is a rising star.
Thankyou, that was fascinating… and very scary :( It’s scary that anyone would do this. The spoon? Wow, how does anyone think this up. I don’t like what Amber is doing, but I hope somehow, some way, she gets help. If nothing else, the people in her life would benefit from Amber being under proper and effective care.
@@gwynbly97 thank you LN friend. It is scary. This is how a manipulative narcissist operates. What is more frightening and dangerous? She is now raising a child ~~ who can wind up as her victim or even worse than AH.
So, let me get this straight. JD wants to leave her for awhile so he can go out & get high and then beat her up…AND yet HE is ASKING her PERMISSION to leave? He’s not storming off in a rage? But asking her permission? Seems like HE is the one afraid of HER.
YES He is trying to placate her (and calm her down, separate from the fight) and she is trying to fight (find the solution). Translation: A knockout is the solution!
@@finnmarr-heenan2397 yes and no. When we run out, many of us may engage in sneaky, manipulative, deceitful behavior in order to get more of the substance (I’ve done something very shameful to get more of my drug of choice, and no it wasn’t anything sexual. I never shame sex work or feeling like you need to resort to selling your body to get more of your substance. I’m shaming myself for something I’ve done multiple times, and I’m ONLY shaming myself). Many people unfortunately also steal money and/or other things from loved ones in a desperate attempt to re-up. I’ve never done that one. Many people also end up lashing out and doing things uncharacteristic of their sober selves when they’re in withdrawal and need their fix. I’ve definitely been extremely irritable but I’ve never been abusive as a result of running out. Many people sadly end up being very abusive on their substance, depending on what the substance is. Depp’s substances were almost all downers, and he took them to escape his childhood trauma and the lasting effects it left (as it always does😔, can sadly relate). He was usually passing out from his drug and alcohol use, and I don’t know many people who are suddenly abusive as soon as they’re…passed out?…?
@@finnmarr-heenan2397 that depends on the person and the addiction. Most would just leave to get more. Most addicts aren't violent, those that are violent are most likely violent sober as well.
"This is the knife you gave to the man hitting you?" "I was pretty sure he wasn't going to stab me with it, that's for sure" This is insanity, that she could even utter these words and imagine others could take her seriously
Also, it was engraved with "until death". Like, first off, don't give a lethal weapon an engraving romanticizing death (unless it was given/passed on from a dying/dead person maybe). And secondly, don't give someone a gift with fucking wedding vows on it when you've not even been together one year. And thirdly, if your boyfriend hits you all the time with big chunky rings, don't give him a weapon, especially not one engraved with essentially "only death can break us up". Like, every single aspect of the gift was a bad idea if we're to trust Amber. But if we believe Johnny, then yes, someone with intense emotions and a fear for being apart would definitely make those kinds of gestures sooner and would sooner ignore all three of those red flags.
@@avp6730 Emily spoke about this at some point, Depp's team whole strategy is to make Amber explain herself and let the jury decide for themselves if she's lying or not, the team doesn't have to spell everything out for the jury because if the jury arrives at a conclusion on their own they'll feel more sure this conclusion is correct, so they lead the jurors to the answers but let them take the final step. No one likes to be told what to think, just compare the closing arguments of boths teams, it's ridiculous, Elaine was trying to give the jurors her own answers so hard, so was rottenborn but I think he was more subtle about this. And this is why I don't understand how someone can watch the whole trial and still claim Amber is right, it feels like her and her team were fighting against the truth the whole time, I feel awful about thinking this cause I know there's people who are real victims that do sympathize with Amber but I can't just wrap my head around it.
She can't admit weakness. That's why she can say "He was scary." But she can't say "I was scared." That's why she "Has NEVER thought of myself as a victim." Give her all her stories in a way that highlights her weakness and she'll all of a sudden deny they ever happened.
im not surprised AH doesnt see herself as a victim... she's clearly a Aggressor, Abuser, and a Bully. and the longer this trial goes on, the worse her image seems to become. Im not saying JD is a saint. AND any relationship with this much booze and drugs.. AND EGO, is going to be a nightmare. I dont think either of them are particularly friendly with the truth.
If you remove Depp's servants as reasonable witnesses since they're loyal to him by profession, the majority of evidence suggests that Johnny Depp abused his ex wife.
If it were one person lying yeah OK, but it’s hard to think 20 people who might not know each other are all lying. I feel like she makes the accusations because she lies so it doesn’t have the same sting it does coming from an honest person.
Her laugh in the 2h30min audio JD’s team showed was SO DISTURBING! She was literally humillating him and yet she still claims she’s the victim U N B E L I E V A B L E 🙃
Camille did so much research and was so prepared for this cross. She was even prepared for amber to argue with her on every front, and had things ready to counter. So good
She had years of depositions to study and it is apparent she studied them and also Dr. Curry’s diagnoses to prep for AH likely responses. Camille slayed her. As Emily said she had her receipts ready.
Him running away from her is a sign he is going to beat her up??? Isnt that the exact opposite of someone confrontational? The lies just get more convoluted
I think she claimed that he would go do drugs and come back and beat on her, that's why She tried to stop him going. Or maybe that was in another chapter of her fantasy novel.
This is a car crash of a testimony. Depp lawyer is absolutely slaying this. Amazing lawyer, great timing, great tone, great positioning of the narrative and timing of the questions.
I know this is old at this point and nobody will ever see this but one thing that ALWAYS stands out to me is when Johnny says to Amber "...and then I watched you lie" To me that statement alone puts me in Johnnys shoes and state of mind in the moment so well. Imagine WATCHING someone lie and lie about you and eventually you give up trying to convince people that you're in fact the one telling the truth. That must be such a painful and helpless feeling.
Something that stands out to me HUGELY and drives me mad is how everything amber says she says it x2 " you think you're so tough. You think you're so tough" " I loved him, I loved him" which is fine, although obnoxious and annoying. However the issue comes when she's apparently quoting what somebody else says, and does it with that alleged direct quote, as its how she personally speaks, it's extremely unlikely every other person in her life has that obnoxious habit to their speech, it's obviously just her trying to fill time and make it look as though it's a genuine retelling of what somebody has said, cringe.
So many of us come back over and over to watch/listen to this. If the outcome had been different,I don't know if we would. Sometimes it has a calming effect,sometimes it's just something to fill silence. But,I think a mutual aspect of rewatching,is the disbelief and attempting to understand how a seemingly intelligent woman could claim she was beaten so badly that she had 2 black eyes,a broken nose,etc,then show a photo with a tiny red spot on her face, and expect other people to believe it. That's like holding up a photo of a baby bunny and expecting people to believe it's a Clydesdale that's 16 hands high and weighs 1300 pounds. Also,the idea of how easily she damaged him and how she could have completely ruined another human being if she had only toned down the lies a little. I'm all about feminism,believing victims and MeToo,but I think this gave all of us a wake up call. Feel free to still leave comments anytime. There's so many of us that still watch and interact.
@@czhaokAlso,how in her testimony and even in the divorce and UK depositions, she says that during almost every 'incident' Depp said,"you think you're tough? Are you a tough guy?". I think it's simply because she started so many fights that she can't remember the dialog so she just fills it I'm with cheesy bullcrap.
@@bethnorrod5942Yes! It's comical because her accusations are so out there. But literally all she had to do was say that he was verbally abusive. The recordings don't support that. It's clear that he's trying to match her energy in recordings. But I do think she would've gotten away with it. You can't see the damage done from verbal abuse - for that you have to take people at their word.
Deadspooky, Johnny has opened everyone's eyes, even the people who are still victims, because they will have those words ringing in their ears, "DON'T SIT DOWN"! These words are golden, even for children, because we have to teach our children. I did, when my children were little growing up. They never forgot. God bless you. ✝️❤️🙏 Remember to let go and forgive, don't be a prisoner of they're behavior. God's wrath is better than we can imagine.
Yes I agree HOWEVER, I too was 8. I'm 33 now. You and I didn't have a child hood. ☹️. but also Johnny was the type of person that abused me. If Johnny forced AH to have sex once. INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE. And when she told her store about searching for drugs in her vagina .. that also happened to me.. that's why I know ADDICTS NEVER CHANGE.
@@chardizzlene I absolutely understand and this is just my experience but when she's trying to say she remembers everything so vividly and Johnny is a bad historian in her words it just makes me mad. Also to the above comments amber is a drug abuser too it's not fair to say that's what makes Johnny a liar.
Every time I see someone try and call Amber the victim I come back to these videos. I genuinely can’t see how anyone could watch this trial and come to that conclusion.
They main argument I see is that Amber is an "imperfect victim", what I THINK they mean by that is Amber doesn't act scared of Johnny, she never even cried, which would be fine if it didn't came across that she was trying to cry but was failing at it, you don't need to cry for people to believe you, you only need to tell the truth. And I hear this imperfect victim argument and I'm like, ok in court is one thing but in most of the recordings we heard she also wasn't scared of him, the only one that I remember thinking she might actually be scared was the one where JD was playing with knives and she was telling him to stop, and I also remember camille crossing her about a compromising picture of JD (I think he was sleeping?) that Amber sent to someone, Camille asked something like "weren't you scared of sending that picture of mr. Depp to another person?" and Amber responds with "Why would I?", if she really was afraid of him cause he was super controlling like she said wouldn't she think he might go through her phone and see she sent that embarassing picture of him to another person? Wouldn't she fear retaliation from him? The other part of the imperfect victim argument that I've seen is that Amber is imperfect because she lacks evidence that the abuse actually happened but that doesn't mean it didn't happened, and that we can't turn this into a 'pics or it didn't happen' situation. I would be more willing to listen to that argument if Amber and Elaine didn't said they had a MOUNTAIN of evidence of the abuse and if pictures they brought to court weren't shown to be phony (like the identical wine stained floor ones who are supposed to be from different days), if Amber really had time to gather a mountain of evidence why didn't we see a single medical record or decisive testimony of the injuries she suffered because of the bottle incident? If it really happened like she said she wouldn't be able to cover that up. Why bring shady evidence like that to a court of law? If in fact she had been gathering it for years now? I don't believe anything Amber says, I can't, she really turned into the Girl who cried Wolf for me, I was willing to believe JD got violent with her when he got drunk because of Ellen Barkin's testimony but Amber has been caught lying so many times I can't in good conscience believe anything she says anymore even if it's plausible like JD beating her up while drunk.
@@Prototype-357imperfect victim, she's a small woman,his vulgar texts prove he's an abuser,he's an addict and they abused each other are the reasons I usually read/ hear from Amber supporters. I think the main reaon,really,is they are narrow minded and don't believe a man can be a victim. I read a Pro Amber redditt thread, most of them only watched Depps cross and Ambers testimony. The few that did watch Ambers cross claimed she made a fool of Camille and that Camille is a horrible lawyer. It really blew my mind. I think a lot of them are the type to believe everything they see on social media,too,because there was several that said all his exes came forward with claims of abuse,and ofc they supposedly saw those claims on social media. And of course, even though it's still an active thread,anything pro Depp is blocked. I typed a comment and as soon I hit post,I got a notification that I was blocked for breaking the rules of the sub. I guess,even though the truth is pretty plain here,there's always going to be people who believe differently. What's really scary though is that if Amber hadn't got so grandiose with her claims(he was wearing big rings and hit me so many times I lost count,here is the proof,then shows a photo of normal red cheeks) she probably would have gotten away with the lies and Depp would be ruined.
@@Prototype-357 Goodness, yes that "Why would I?" line... Also, when Heard claimed she got beat up & _then_ Depp wrote mean things on the mirror to her & she took pictures of the _mirror_ for evidence of how mean he was but didn't take a single picture of her bruised & bloody face? The "conversation with himself" was just a cherry on top of that point. You wanted to show how abusive he was but didn't take a photo showing potential evidence of his physical abuse? I loved how much of the evidence Depp's side used was evidence provided by Heard. Every time I heard Depp's team say "Can we see defendant's exhibit x, y, z..." I was dying laughing.
The taunting audio where she is just laughing at him got me crying. It’s so uncomfortable and painful and it isn’t even driected at me. How Johnny carried that weight is astounding. It’s.. horrifying she almost got away with it.
Anybody who is still on the fence needs to just listen to their personal recordings in full. There are so many recordings. Listen to the unedited ones. They are so telling. So difficult to hear. They are triggering, especially for me cos I was in an emotionally abusive and toxic relationship. In those tapes Amber Heard comes across as the abuser, the monster, the manipulative psychopath. And then I suggest everyone to go and watch her Times Up rally speech, right after listening to those personal recordings. Her malice is clear.
They haven’t listened to it, I guarantee. They’re just going with biases based on their own experiences. And if they did listen to it and still agree with AH, then they’re abusers themselves.
It's like she honestly feels like slaps arent hitting and like if she soesnt physically cause him pain it doesnt count. She'll say I didnt mean to do that, moments later that becomes I didnt do that. She believes the stories in her head for sure
Ma’am! The trial is an exercise in the constitutional rights of the plaintiff and the defendant. Nothing wrong with that, it’s just Amber really screwed the pooch for herself.
Agreed and even then, she was trying to stay fair but there was just TOO much that wasn't lining up and directly contradicting evidence, her witnesses and even her own testimony.
If I was assaulted with a bottle in the manner in which she described, it would probably bring me tears and would probably be hard for me to describe what I went through. When Camille talks about it, it's like it doesn't faze Amber. Yet when her lawyers question her about it, she "cries". Give me a break!
Could you imagine getting assaulted by a bottle (broken or not) in the manner Amber described to the point that she was bleeding and not seek medical attention? I mean, she even went back to the US without JD the next day and she never got checked out by anyone? No medical records ever? For any injuries?
I experience physical discomfort even imagining it. I do not understand why someone would make up a story that disturbing. Could’ve really gone my whole life without that image! But anyway, a woman who was very interested in having a baby would I imagine want to see a doctor to make sure she had no damage to reproductive organs.
Amber doesn't have the brainpower to both lie and focus on the questions past, present, and future coming from her adversary, Camille and keep her story straight. That's why the descrepences slip in, the contridictions in the next sentence, the real Amber between the shifting emotions. The times she gets lost and she has to ask Camille to repeat the question I believe she has been so focused on her next lie she didn't hear the words coming out of Camille's mouth. Lying is hard work and takes more brainpower.
Her need to reframe every question with her testimony and her constant turning to the jury even with small answers like "that's correct" irritates me to no end! I need a mega pint before they come back from break.
Holy crap. Her maniacal laugh and the way she’s taunting him in the tape is horrifying. Like horror movie horrifying. She’s scary. My mother was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and she and Amber have a ton of similarities. My mom also refused to believe the diagnosis, never got treatment, and everyone else is crazy and a liar but her.
i personally know a few people in my life who are the exact same. Everyone else is always wrong and theyre the only ones who know anything. You never know what really happened with anything because the lies are so constant. Its really hard to deal with when its going full tilt, I feel your pain and I hope your mom got the help she needed
I'm diagnosed with bpd and when I heard the first few recordings of the trial I thought "she sounds like she's got bpd... I hope I'm not projecting..." and then Dr Curry came out and I was like "Welp. there it is." Hearing this recording in particular is so chilling... it's like me, if I had zero empathy or shame. that's what always stopped me from hurting people. group therapy (CBT) is sooo wonderful and helpful and I wish everyone with bpd would seek it cuz it makes your life so much easier and happier.
@@befumms I totally had the same experience! When this all started I thoughts it sounded like me when I was at my lowest points before I was diagnosed and got therapy! Everyone should get therapy it makes the biggest difference!
But sure didn't you know Johnny has gotten to everyone to get them to lie for him? The police and all are Johnny's yes men. That's the only answer. Everyone else is lying. Ambers own words in the audios are even lying!
Me too! Emily’s (and other Law-Tubers’) streams are so entertaining and informative, I love to listen/watch when doing chores around the house, makes it so much more fun!
Holy crap that call when she's frantically begging him not to go, and she starts crying and saying that she's going to die if he leaves? Holy that is the biggest presentation of BPD I've ever heard. This solidifies her BPD diagnosis in my opinion. It's so textbook and Powerful. She believes her own lies. She has distorted thoughts and she gets confused about who did what because she has no identity. She steals Johnnys. She gets the two of them confused because she completely depends on his identity. Without him she literally feels like she doesn't exist at all. This is a severe pathology and that's enough for me to completely believe that all those manipulative lies shr told are absolutely & accurately pathological diception
Absolutely you can see she believes these lies she tells. In her mind it probably feels real but her actions back to him let us see that she’s clearly not afraid of him! She’s addicted to him.. just so much to grasp with it all!
@@amandaford2741 100% that 1st or was it 2nd audio Camille played on Monday during her 1st initial cross-examination started REALLY stuck w\me. Well, honestly there's so many that stick w\me. But it was the 1 where he's telling her not to fucking touch him. & She is crying she just wanted a hug just one last hug & he is SO vehement & clear about being done & NEVER looking in her eyes again & wanting nothing to do w\her. I believed her emotion there bc it was clear she was scared & freaking out bc she realized he was SERIOUS this time & DONE w\her! & I believe 100% that she was hoping to seduce him & get him back under her control & when she couldn't, she freaked out & realized she'd went too far & of I think that's when she REALLY started trying to make her paltry excuse of "evidence" actually seem real & trying to fit her story. The problem is, I believe bc of HER abuse of drugs & alcohol &bc of her arrogance & need to have everything MAJOR & DRAMATIC, that she honestly does not remember all the actual real hard evidence that contradicts what she's said. & She thinks she's smarter than everyone else & that she can talk around ppl. & Honestly that she prob watched the movie How To Deal w\Mandy Moore too many times & TRULY believes she can Jedi Mind Trick the entire world! "You SEE my awful 😞 bruises & injuries & broken noses & scars & chunks of bloody hair & scalp ripped out! You KNOW I'm telling the truth & my amassing of the strongest evidence of DV & SA are the most solid & MOST AWFUL evidenced you've EVER seen! Look at me! You see me scared & traumatized having to.... Stop look at ME! You see me sobbing & you KNOW I'm having the worst flashbacks & strongest reactions of ANY victim you've ever seen! You KNOW the pattern & cycle of abuse Johnny put me thru! You KNOW I'm telling the truth & I donated ALL that 💰! You can see I'm just a badly traumatized woman who's embracing my inner strength & heroism & I'm fighting back against the "man" & trying to move on w\my life" 🙄🤔🤣🤣🤣 Silly cunt! Nobody is falling for that BS! Lie lie lie lie nonsense lie! 🤥
@@Amber-yq9ee I loved all of this but your last paragraph cracked me up as I wasn't expecting it. You English by any chance? That sounds like our kind of "wrap up" analysis of a situation 😆
That recording was the one time I actually felt sympathy for her, because I knew when she said “you’re killing me,” she meant it literally. I’ve since wondered if she also felt like she was literally being poked, backed into a corner and shoved against a wall, and if that’s where her allegations of abuse come from - she _feels_ like she’s being physically attacked, and that perception becomes her reality. I’m no expert on BPD, far from it, but that would explain a lot. (I’ve also got some theories about the things she reports JD screaming at her being things her father said when he was abusing her, e.g. “be a man,” “you think you’re tough?” and “you fucking ruined my life,” none of which sound characteristic of JD, but that’s enough armchair psychology for now.) The confused identity aspect hadn’t occurred to me, but I think it’s a solid observation, and probably spot on. Thanks for sharing it!
Camille Vasquez is an excellent lawyer and as a fellow Latina I'm living right now! Amber Heard cannot answer a single question with a straight answer...
I'm FLOORED by her testimony today. Like she's straight up pathological. I so wanted to believe her, but jesus christ, nothing she says rings true and somehow she keeps doubling down on everyone else being wrong. How does this work?
She would lie about the stupidest things. If it was raining, she would say it's not raining and it's sunny and no clouds in the sky. She can not tell the truth
She speaks to Johnny in such a way that screams that she's is NOT afraid of him in any way shape or form, totally opposite of how she tried to paint him to be so abusive and a monster
literally!! as a victim of both physical and emotional abuse i would NEVER speak to my abusers that way. telling them what to do and belittling them…that would make everything worse. i probably wouldn’t have survived. the few times i have talked back i learned my lesson very quickly, and i didn’t do it to the extent she did. just little comments trying to defend myself from gaslighting and whatnot. if johnny was as abusive as she said he is, her calling him a baby and taunting him for running away from all their fights (which is also something he wouldn’t do if he was that abusive), or telling him to stop slamming the cabinets in that one video when he’s already agitated, she would’ve been pummeled immediately, as she’s said he’s done before. i haven’t been beaten to the edge of my life but i’ve been held in a chokehold and hit and things thrown at me, and it would only get worse if i talked back the way she did. an actual abuser that is as bad as she says he was would’ve killed her if not beaten her within an inch of her life.
I have ADHD and dyslexia, I am a teacher of kids with learning disabilities. I love that you are so strong and open about your learning needs. The world needs to see more super strong people who are successful.
Likewise i have both but unfortunately not a teacher ... even i can see her lies and the way she tries to justify everything in a negative manner for Johnny but positive or victim like manner for herself..its so narcissistic
AH : "He chopped my head off with a broadsword." Cross: "He chopped your head off?" AH: "Yes, I remember my head rolling on the floor across the room from my body and wondering why the carpet had gotten so dirty." Cross: "And there are no crime scene photos of your murder?" AH: "No. I did not seek medical attention."
I'm dying to know if AH is up there literally thinking "I am KILLING it up here, these lawyers got nothing on me!" Because I think she actually believes that.
I think she did. News covering the trial tried to paint her former life manager as a bitter and vindictive woman because she answered her cross very directly with blunt yes and no answers. She never tried to explain herself and waited for redirect. She honestly did AMAZING. But because laymen who were being begged to spin in AH's favorite were trying to tell people she was actually just a bitter old hag, she thought the best method was her go-to. Twist wiggle and warp her way out of things by mincing words and trying to misdirect by combining events to intentionally confuse the jury. Classic narc.
That's like Brandon Biden agreeing to take a mental cognitive test or President Trump agreeing to take an IQ test.... It makes no sense, it's the last thing you would expect to happen.
Camille: "no, ms. Heard, i'm talking about YOUR actions". AH: *visible confusion*. You can tell she's never once even considered her own actions before in her life lmao.
The Team Work in this trial From Brown-Rudnick is amazing...Even Dennison is there watching. He has no witnesses today, but he is watching her. This is preparing his cross of her witnesses to come. He was there yesterday too. The attorneys behind the scenes work is awesome, they sit there also. My gosh Depp has at least a dozen working for him that we can see! The work done for Vasquez & Meyers to back them up with facts is mind boggling. Chew Chose This Team, Assignments & duties. Camille aiding Jessica with Depp Testimony & Jessica aiding Camille with Heard Testimony will probably be the norm for big cases from now on. I think Jessica Myers Deserves Way More Credit For Her work here. She Handled Depp with just as much expertise as Camille did with Heard. Sad she didn't get recognized for that. I love that Chew let these younger Attorneys have their witnesses also. The one who had Ben King Was very good & the Blonde young lady had a great voice in court. But Dennison's presence was the tell for me. He's going to let Dr. Curry know what he witnessed. He's going against more witnesses to come. This team is Very Professional and Each Gave Their All. Bravo Brown-Rudnick!
As a survivor or SA and DV I would have NEVER given my abuser a knife or any sort of weapon they could possibly use to hurt me. That is asking for something terrible to happen to you and could possibly lead to your death. On top of that as someone in pharmacy taking 8-10 MDMA pills in a SINGLE night would land you in the hospital. You would OD and convulse and could potentially lead to death.
It breaks my heart. The video of JD smashing up cupboards is a man who is tormrnted by an abusive woman whose had multiple affairs, has freeloader friends who probably also tormented him in subtle ways. Gross
1 thing I have noticed is how this case has unified the left and right. Some friends and I went to the bar Friday night, we are all right wingers, and 2 guys came in that are left wing. We've come across each other from time to time at different events in the city but don't think we've ever actually spoken with one another. I overheard them talking about the case and we had a little back and forth, few minutes later we invited them over to our table and we all talked for around 2 hours...... We all even made plans to meet up again this Friday. This might come across wrong but we dubbed the case our 9-11(b/c right after 9-11 the people were unified).
That was the day he learned that his longtime lawyer and his accounting firm had ripped him off to the tune of millions and millions of dollars and had gotten him in trouble with the IRS. He had trusted them. I don't understand how Johnny withstood living with all those young, spoiled, Hollywood brats living and partying around him. Mooching off him and taking advantage of his generosity and kindness.
People who do not seek medical treatment from DV out of fear and/or shame DON'T go on talk shows, walk red carpets, go to lavish parties, all at the time of incidents, risking being photographed and seen by millions of people worldwide. It makes absolutley zero sense. Glad the jury put it all together.
Most don't seek medical help,but she had resources. Private nurses and doctors. Had she been afraid of it being reported,she had enough time away from Depp,since he "left and disappeared during fights", that she could have safely went to an ER and wouldn't have to name her attacker. Most victims don't take photos out of fear,she took embarrassing photos of him while she also claimed he demanded the password and constant access to her phone, and not only wasn't afraid he'd get mad at the embarrassing photos,but failed to take accurate photos of injuries. During my time with an abuser,there wasn't current technology. Had I taken a photo that had to be developed or taken one on the first camera capable phones, I would have been in trouble. She could have taken photos of injuries and hid them in apps,put them in the cloud but deleted them from her phone,saved them on a memory card,etc. She accidentally said it herself in an interview,normal people don't have the resources she had,yet she still doesn't have evidence. Several punches to the face with chunky rings, black eyes and busted noses, then she holds up a photo with a slight red mark on her face and expects people to believe her. It's insane.
When you put it All together she sguilty for sure but...do not generalise from her and say nobody who was abused would ever do x. Its not true. Many abused women don't get medical help. Do go to red carpet events do go to gala parties do have no photographs of their injuries do have no medical reports. You would be 100 percent wrong to say that victims don't do x y or z just because amber is not a victim and did those things. Its not correct and its not right.
@bethnorrod5942 look while I dont think she is telling the truth it is not the case that no abused woman would ever ..x yz. That amber has done. Plenty don't get medical attention despite resources. Plenty don't take photos of theur injuries. And while it's weird there are probably victims who have taken photos of theur abuser as well. Her whole story personality evidence doesn't add up but that doesn't mean that no victim of dv would do some of the things she has done. Like go to a gala. Or red carpet party or photo shoot or xyz. All of it together makes an particular picture but that doesn't mean the individual things she has done would never be done by anyone ever.
Well that's not true. We know of plenty of Hollywood stars who later shared their stories ...snd yes they were abused andd went to parties. Just because Amber is guilty doesn't mean everyone has the exact opposite experience to her. I'm so sick of everyone saying no victim would ever ..xyz...sigh. its sad how little understanding there actually is.
I love how AH remembers every single detail of the “abuse” that isn’t documented but “can’t remember” or “don’t recall” any documented stuff…my gawd, she is an amazing liar and a despicable, vile abuser!
@@ClaudiaCarranza1 I believe the word "Amazing" was used as very Skilled, or a Good liar (twisting facts even After caught red handed)😉and she has been able to fool Many people including: The Washington Post, The Sun, Elon Musk, Johnny Depp, and many more people for Years. She is a narcissistic borderline and she is dangerous as hell. I feel Very concerned for her child.
Here’s the problem with Heard during cross examination: her memory is spotty when it comes to establishing some very obvious and clear details of traumatic events. But when it comes to details that other witnesses remember and recalled and critically contradict her, suddenly she remembers very clearly and they are wrong.
On direct she and Elaine controlled the narrative yet she claims to be triggered. When challenged on cross, where her very truth of abuse is challenged, no trigger. Bizarre.
The night my ex-husband attacked me in the worst way, police were called & police issued an intervention order, was the night I discovered true fear. From this point on any time he ignored IO and messages me, rang me or followed me caused me to become hysyerical. I was absolutely terrified of him. AH is making a mockery of true survivors, which is really sad 😔
The audio of her beratinging him for hiding is so triggering. The bathrooms and closets were my sanctuary and my narc abuser always got on me for not engaging and hiding because they love the fight and hate when you deny them their fun. It's shown in her other audio where she's begging to stay to fight, "pleeeeeeease let us go in to argue". She needs to fight to feel something.
That's why she went and ruined his "safe spaces", (for lack of a better term). She scrawled her abusive insults everywhere he ran, after she chased him out. Like this is the kind of person all the true crime cases I've watched tell you to run screaming from.
It was definitely much larger than ot appeared in the photos. Who would give that as present to someone who gets violent, black out drunk and was in fear that her partner would kill her and he would not even realize he had done it.
Rewatching this after closing arguments. It's crazy how much she changed just from this testimony, to her rebuttal testimony. First it's "he took 8-10 pills", then later its "on no, he didn't take them all at once". First the manager of Hicksville was there,, then he was never there. So many inconsistencies. Shit just never stops changing to fit her narrative and get around the questions.
Nobody could survive that many tablets. But also think about that statement cause she observed him do that even if it was over a period of a few hours , she didn't call a Dr . Don't u think that's strange ? If u saw anyone do that especially ur partner wouldn't u call a ambulance or one of their Dr's at least but no she didn't. Was she trying to make it look like a accidental overdose? That' statement to me says so much I think . I really believe he was lucky to make it out alive. That's how psychotic I think she is.
One thing that irked me the first time I heard it, and has always done so since when I rewatch it once in a while, is her tangent about meeting JD after the divorce on the rehabilitation. She went into full "we were so in love, we barely could keep our clothes on, he took of his sunglasses, gave me his number, kissed me passionately multiple times", it's straight up the "... and everyone clapped" kind of bad fanfiction writing. Yet she said that, under oath, fully believing it'd win over the jury on her account of everything.
So thrilled that Johnny got the cream of the crop with this legal team, and experts. I love the rapport he has with each of them, and you can tell it's a genuine and mutually respectful relationship he has with them.
When amber answers the question on being the one to complaine on debbie loyd nursing lisence she says i dont believe i did. How can amber not know if she complainend about debbie loyd. She answered that way because she didnt know if camille had evidence that she did complain. Which we all suspect she did complain
Camille is absolutely destroying AH and I am here for it. Camille's line of questioning was so well thought out and well executed, truly a brilliant lawyer. Also Elaine turning off the microphone constantly is very telling, she doesnt want to be heard getting frustrated with her own client who is shooting herself in the foot.
Camille, being a woman, brought out the bitch in Amber. If a male attorney had done the cross examination, Amber would immediately played the role of victim.
I definitely know why Johnny fought so hard to have those cameras recording and streaming to pretty much anyone in the world. those cameras in the courtroom. With the cameras amber is no longer able to spin & weave her tall tales.
Yes, so so so important to see the bodylanguage for ourselves. Contempt, the no tears when pretending to cry, the simmering anger and contempt when under cross
I think if I hadnt seen the trial I would question if he had done these things, after watching, even though I think hes difficult and can yell etc, she totally comes across as a straight up abuser.
It’s completely crazy, how AH slides around answering a simple question. She argues for the sake of arguing. She’s blamed everyone else… I’m betting she’d argue with the dead, when she thinks it will suit her.
More like recharacterise and USE the dead to support her argument, like all of her twisting of Jerry's (rip) good character to have him seem like a shining knight to Johnny's wretch in all the 'carried like baby' crap etc. now he cannot refute her. She's already even more despicable than you suggest.
Yep, I used to have a friend who did that exact thing. And, she was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. Doesn’t mean everyone with BPD argues just to argue. Just means it can be a common characteristic of BPD patients to avoid accountability with all their might.
As a DV survivor I used to say ALWAYS believe the victim (the woman) but those recordings are so triggering. I now know men can be victims and there are some psycho women out there. Terrifying.
Thank god, I’ve heard so many people saying the same thing about always believing the victim but that honestly just sounds like such a dangerous precedent to set and I’m so happy this trial brings to light that people like this do exist and we (specifically the people who don’t know the parties involved personally) can’t just blindly believe everyone that comes forward, as unfortunate as that is for the actual victims
Believe the victim that comes forward whatever sex they are until proven otherwise. Despite this trial most victims are afraid to report and can be blamed. No one should be afraid to seek help but they must be honest victims not vindictive, mentally ill liars.
@@kendallneason3645 I agree 💯. Believe the victim/ survivor. I saw flaws and contradictions in Amber before the trial even began. Unfortunately the lies become more and extreme, watching the just confirmed what I'd known all along.
My son has his nose broken when he was 5 years old and believe me when I said his bleeding was like a river and the same day he has black and blue under his eyes and that last almost 2 weeks after his nose reduction!
Indeed, very few punches to the noses result in no bruising or marks. I’ve had a broken nose and also been punched in the area around my eyes . Both resulted in bruising in the tender area under the eyes aka as a black eye. Which is not that easily covered by makeup, since there is also swelling.
When I was a child my best friend and I ran into each other and her forehead hit my nose. The amount of blood was so much I was rushed to a clinic. She’s a lier!!!
Same dude. I broke my nose and even though it healed on its own both of my eyes were so swollen that it hurt to touch them. No amount of makeup can cover that and her eyes don’t look puffy at all.
I'm rewatching parts of the trial on this channel JUST TO SEE EMILY'S REACTIONS. I didn't know about Emily's chanel during the trial, I originally watched it on another channel. LOVE HER REACTIONS - it's great to see different people react.
Seeing the photo of Johnny on the train, it utterly broke my heart. With his arms around people on either side, and a smile on his face, he’s trying, but anyone can see he has been physically abused. Completely heartbreaking. Johnny we love you and we believe you. ❤️
The picture with he's black eye/face was devastating ❤️🩹 and her sitting and saying it's edited 🤢🤮 wired how he actually have pictures and evidence of him being hut but she had non😐 if she had this magical makeup wouldn't he use it to 🤨
James Franco was accused on more then one occasion of sexual misconduct. But she was ok to have him over to her apartment and get snuggle up close to him
@@Duchessofdutchness oh for sure! and he did have minor behaviour in the press before I just think critism needs to be accurate, honestly i think its a bit weird to have an “adult sleepover” with an overnight bag with a nonfriend while locking your husband out even if she doesnt know about any misconduct
@@rosiemurphy7793 him being paranoid had nothing to do with his “addiction” but everything to do with her infidelity. She tried to seduce Kevin Costner ffs🤣 a man who has been happily married for years. Wonder who else she tried to do what she did with Johnny.
I think it's annoying Heard that Camille keeps just moving on regardless of word parsing answers - she LIKES to fight & Camille isn't giving her the chance & you can see the frustration building on Heard's face - she's used to being able to argue & argue....it's a very effective cross style for Amber Heard specifically! Camille is a Rock Star!
Emily, legal muggle here! You have taught me so many legal terms! I will use it at my work during team meetings when they try to volunteer me for things. “Objection, speculation! Motion to strike” hahaha!!! Love your feedback and insight!
She has a fear of abandonment. The psychologist made the point that the personality disorders she has would trigger her to become frantic and even violent to prevent Depp from leaving; even for a minute amount of time. HPD is not a commonly talked about disorder, but it is a *doozy* of a disorder. Very difficult to navigate around in a relationship, especially a toxic/abusive one. Depp didn’t stand a chance of happiness with such toxicity.
Yes, in my experience these people love the fight. They feed off it and get a high off it. My abuser was self aware enough, or arrogant enough, to tell me how much he loved to fight and that he hated when I would grey stone him because he couldn't get his enjoyment out of fighting and torturing me.
The fact that she could Not admit that she was scared of him threw that whole act of being afraid to bump into him out of the window. I pray the jury really paid close attention to that...it blew me away.
@@1250ou OH that's true thanks for the correction 😊...well I know the public saw it and once again it really blew me away. I didn't want cross examination to end it was soooooo good.
Her taunting and maniacal laughing in that recording were VERY disturbing.. it was actually triggering for me as a survivor of DV. Her behavior on the recordings is WAY more chilling than her testimony of the alleged abuse she suffered.
Adding to my previous comment - it’s also chilling to hear her manipulative rhetoric on the recording, begging him to stay, while throwing around language illustrative of physical assault (“throwing me up against the wall”). It’s just as chilling to hear the obsession in her voice in these moments - not fear as she’d like to portray. Further, I wonder if in these moments she actually has tears, while “sobbing” hysterically to him, or if its (what I assume) just more of the acting we’ve already seen from her.
The knife thing is crazy. There were times where my siblings and my dad used to hide/lock the knifes away because of our abusive mum/wife. I hated being in the same space as her, I felt repulsed whenever she touched me and I didn't feel safe going to sleep often as our doors had no locks. And yet here AH is begging for her 'abuser' for physical affection, berating him for leaving during arguments and gifting him weapons?! She makes me sick.
Her saying about Australia "of course it was scary" instead of "I was scared" is exactly how Dr. Curry said she was. She would never say "I felt x y z". She needs helps.
"She's only going to have one person to blame when she loses this... Her" Fast forward to Elaine's disgraceful media tour where they blame the actual jury!!! That made me so mad!
You are so right! This was so very unprofessional! Elaine was talking so fast, it seemed like she was desperate to get someone to believe her lie. I BET SHE DIDN'T EVEN BELIEVE IT HERSELF!!
I love Ben Chew's unfiltered facial expressions!! Camille "badass" Vasquez: "you know what a deposition is? You heard debbie testify under oath, correct? Didnt debbie say under oath JD did not throw anything at her?" Ben: *nods* *nods* *nods* Aturd: "idk if she said that" Ben: 😂
I really hated when this came out and people would say their opinion is “I think they were both apart of a very toxic relationship” I feel like with what we know, that opinion is staggering. She is with absolute certainty- an abuser. Who drags anyone she’s with down into a cycle of abuse and chaos perpetrated by HeR hands. It feels like a form of victim blaming. Some people are raised to believe this is love, and it’s not their fault.
I have ADHD, and only coffee this morning; the "nerve-citement" from this cross made my Apple Watch give me a HR warning. Camille is fantastic, and Amber's testimony and behaviour/words mincing is super upsetting for me (from a history of similarly abusive and manipulative partners). Thank you for being you and having this channel!
Nikita, I _completely_ understand what you're saying. Talk about a trigger. 😔 But... with that being said, I'm glad to see that there's somebody else out there who's just as Psycho/Narcissist/Sociopathic as my ex was. It's _VERY_ difficult to explain to people what he was like. Now I can just send them clips of AH. It's scary how similar they are. I end up having to pause and come back and watch stuff later, because it literally makes me sad for JD.
@@goose7574 My husband’s ex-wife is exactly like this you can catch her on video doing some thing and she will deny it. I think it’s fascinating to see that there are way more Cray Cray women than I thought
This trial, especially AH's strange and juxtaposed testimony could be triggering for me, but because of you, Emily, I am able to handle it. I feel women like AH may exploit those of us who are really victims by using real victims as a bandwagon.
Spot on, this is exactly what I believe she's doing. Unfortunately, as you say, at the cost of true victims of abuse, Johnny Depp included. Thankfully she's not good enough of an actress to pull it off, hopefully the damage is minimal.
I too feel AH is doing a dishonor to bpd as well. I know cases are different but I don't identify with her at all or what she is trying to portray. I think she doing us all who are touched by trauma a dishonor.
That is such an intense combo of drugs too!! Like damn I've loved to get trippy in my life but even so I've never combined things like that. If anything I'd smoke weed during the comedown of a psychedelic. I've seen people on two psychedelics at once and it is INTENSE.
@@squirrelgod598 depends if there shitty ones you can get for a few euros. Those u could smash back a few but anything decent u would just about cook your self.
I dated a girl who was diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder and Paranoid Personality Disorder, and this was like watching and hearing my own relationship played back to me. BPD's are the most wonderful and terrible people at the same time, and whatever triggers their BPD can turn a great time into an absolute nightmare. There's no rationalizing with it. You want to talk to them like they're able to see reason or be logical, but once they're disorder is triggered, they're no longer in the driver seat. The disorder completely takes over. There's no arguing out of it. There's no way to reach a conclusion peacefully. It just escalated and escalates until it peaks. Johnny was still in the stage of trying to talk sense into her in those voice recordings, because we think we can. We think we can get through. And him trying to go to different rooms, and her following to force the situation to become worse and worse, was exactly my experience too. I ended up having to evict her, because she refused to leave after I broke up with her. I had to video tape my entire house to protect my things from being destroyed. I had to have family stop by while I was at work to ensure she wasn't burning my house down. Not exaggerating. My mother caught her one time when she came over, walking around my house and motorcycle with a hammer. I had to make records with the police department in case the situation required law enforcement. That was the worst month of my life waiting on that eviction to be enforced. She packed and left willingly 2 days before her month was up, but made my life hell for 28 days. She never shit in my bed though. Thank God.
@@haute03 I'm better. Taking time being single just trying to remember what normal life was like, because the years I was with her was never normal. That affected my own mental health, made me a recluse b/c i was always afraid she'd go nuts out in public. She's still the same. Her mom updates me occasionally without her knowing, because she knows I always cared about her and her welling, but she refuses to get help long term. She did go to therapy a few times, once a week for a month or two, but her therapist wanted me to come in with her, and once she said that she quit going completely. I assumed because she was lying to her therapist about everything, which made going to therapy pointless, and she was afraid I'd expose her. It's very unfortunate.
@@skydriver5709 Best to stay away from her and hope she gets help. You should take care of yourself and be with friends who care about you and help you recover.
It’s amazing, AH DENIES EVERY SINGLE STATEMENT OTHER PEOPLE MADE UNDER OATH. SHE JUST OUT RIGHT DENIES THEM, BASICALLY CALLING THEM ALL LIARS. SHE IS SO ABSURD!!!!
Wow! She sure didn’t mind living off of his “ sellout” money and didn’t have any issue with living in his “ 15 houses “, did she? She didn’t mind him using that “ sellout” money to pay for $30k a night bungalows at the Beverly Hills Hotel where she and her friends stayed and racked up huge room service bills, either. She sure begged for that “ washed up piece of shit” to live her and stay with her. This chick is unbelievable. That recording where she was being so sarcastic and nasty to him was infuriating. Laughing at him like an immature child then later literally BEGGING him over and over to live her and come home. Who would taunt their abuser that way? Nobody. Grrrr. This made me so mad.
@@stevep2380 Yep! I absolutely agree about her being a gold digger. I didn’t know about Costner, though ! He’s definitely way out of her league. She doesn’t have near enough class for him.
The article I saw said she showed up in Costner trailer naked when they were filming 3 days to kill. she and Johnny were supposedly on a break. I guess he didn't like that very much because he called her out on it at a cast party in front of a bunch of people. Allegedly he doesn't like her very much. I'm not sure how true or untrue the article is but given ambers pattern of behavior I wouldn't put it past her.
How many people rewatch this whenever they need something as background noise? Not me for the 12th time 😂😂😂 love you Emily 💜
This is exactly what I watch every night to fall asleep.
Lmao just here to watch a witch get burnt and the funny commentary
I drive a lot for my job, and sometimes I re-listen to the testimonies to pass the time (and not have to skip around constantly on my phone).
Every time I'm baking and stress 🙌🏻🙌🏻🫶
I may or may not relate to this comment in a big way. 😉
"I'm so terrified of this man! He keeps locking himself in the bathroom! He leaves the house when I scream at him and hit him! I'm so afraid for my life!"
"I'm so afraid I gave him a big knife as a gift" I still can't believe how big it was lol
I’m so terrified of this man I moved my closest friends into all his homes and in the direct line of his dangerous charitable personality.
Her when he's about to leave, 'You're killing me!!' - Next day, Johnny accused of attempted murder 😵😵🤦♂️😂
💀😭
@@ItsJustValHere a knife with “‘til death” written on it.
That record of Amber mocking Johnny was the nail to her coffin. That laugh, that taunting laugh….just.
Yeah it screams malice lmao she’s nuts
I agree and I was hoping they played this recording. Because if at some point they believed she was a victim who was “ scared” this just proves she’s the instigator and abuser. This would of definitely showed me she did it out of spite
She was "abused" tho...smh hope the jury sees thru her lies
That laugh made it really hard to listen to, it was really..unnerving..a teeny “flight” response in me was bugging me while listening to it.
Seriously! It reminded me of that movie The Exorcist, when the possessed kid is laughing! It legit scared the hell out of me! 😨
It's February 21st, 2023 and I'm still watching (listening to) this trial every night to fall asleep. Don't judge me 😂
I love Emily's voice.
NOt judging you at all!!!!!
Me too😁
Not just you 😂❤
Honestly, this is a great palate cleanser after the Mourdaugh case
Me too! Everyday
It’s interesting how she remembers everything perfectly, until it’s incriminating and inconvenient for her to remember everything. Then she doesn’t quite remember.
You can't gaslight the court reporter, Amber!
I just hope the ppl of the jury can pick up on this as well
I apologize if this is a dumb question but how exactly do civil courts in VA work? I've heard it's a 7 member jury(I think) with a few alternates, do all 7 have to be in agreement or is it a majority rule situation. Could 1 juror essentially hold the whole jury hostage or if there's 1 or 2 holdouts would the holdouts somehow be replaced with the alternates?
@@bennypit4411 All 7 have to agree.
it's the alleged PTSD. Selective memory loss because of everything she suffered. But then she proudly refuses to be called a victim!
Until she needs to portray herself as one, than she frames a man for DA (and worse). Life is so hard when you're Amber Heard.
I want to watch every case Camille Vasquez covers for the rest of her life, she's absolutely stellar to listen to!!
She totally is! She covered all the points ….love her.
I would like to look back and see how many baby girls are named "Camille" this time next year, lol
Yeah but she was letting Amber get away with so many things that she could of drilled her on
the way she delivered intense and yes, sometimes snarky questions/comments before swiftly moving to the next point was so impressive. she knows how to make her point without getting bogged down in arguments with she who is never wrong - but not relent on the important questions heard evades. i’m a law noob but she seems incredible
@@jermainedow1481 i think that’s strategic though, emily said that questions may have more impact on the jury than answers so she could be raising the issue in their mind while saving time for the team’s strongest arguments
I'm an addiction clinician; this is NOT what addicts do. They don't announce their benders. There are no pre-determined "cycles" to using. It is SECRETIVE..NOT announced.
_EXAAAACTLY!_
100% agree my ex was addicted to coke and would go on a bender when I least expected him to! Let me mention he was very physically abusive yet on coke and alcohol he never once laid hands on me. Even when I would be in his face yelling at him calling him a “drug addict” and other harsh names. He was too lost in his own world being paranoid about the gov watching him. He would only lay hands on me when he was sober or going through withdraws.
Yeah, she is trying to apply the domestic violence cycle to addiction, and it doesn't work.
Yeah it’s almost like she doesn’t know anything about the cicle of addiction or domestic V. My dad is an alcoholic and nothing of what she’s saying feels familiar. Specially the part where she cries and does ANYTHING to stop him from using. Loved ones of addicts understand fairly quick that the thing has nothing to do with them, when it’s on it’s on and there’s no power on earth that will stop them if they chose to go on a binge. They’ll lie, they’ll sneak, they are never going to announce themselves specially if your reaction towards it is so extreme. There’s no way in hell you’ll notice until it’s too late and there’s no negotiating, what are the crazy texts about? Even for someone who might be offering help those are too much.
@@DianiES
Exactly!
'I never assaulted Johnny, I never could'. Fast forward to 'It's always been my testimony that I hit Johnny'. Girl. *Girl*
There's quite a few instances she displays misandry.or at the very least old fashioned stereotypes regarding men .she thinks it's weird when men cry and she has this notion that she can't hurt Johnny bc shes a small little female.lots of women have this mindset ,i did at a time as well .she could easily beat the Sh** out of him .he's not even that big or muscular and she trained for movie roles. Not to mention she admitted to hitting with objects like pots and pans . she's the type that would punch a dude then be shocked and claim abuse if he reacted. even if he just pushed her away.
Bruh the fact that she keeps going I couldn’t hurt him… I was like why were you constantly trying to hurt him 😂. Like it’s such a stupid defense… I tried to hit him, your honor, many times, but I just wasn’t successful…😂😂😂 what was going on in her head.
@@angelabowers4914 And remember, she lent her voice to abuse victims, she was one of the faces of MeToo, she should know that abusers can have any gender.
@angelabowers I’ve met her in person at one of my customer service jobs in Burbank, Ca. She’s really not a super tiny female. She was at least my height, 5’6. This was after she got her first nose job….about 2011/2012 at least. She’s taller than Johnny Depp and gives ridiculous straight forward eye contact with very bright blue eyes.
That recording of her berating him is so much more shocking than she understands. You don't talk like that to someone regularly smacking you around. It's unbelievable that she was afraid of him.
Thank you!! That’s what I’ve been saying! I’m a survivor of DV and narcissistic abuse and I 100% agree with this. There would be no way I’d taunt my ex that way.. I’d expect him to get violent if I did… I did anything I could to avoid fights with him.. I definitely didn’t start them!
@@HollieAndApollo EXACTLY! I said it before but now I’m even more firm in my belief. If I provoked my abuser, he would have killed me. He wouldn’t have calmly argued back with me.
@@HaHaHannah1369 100%! For DAMN sure, not calmly argue back as she got cruder, crueler, & louder in his face not allowing him to speak. He wouldn't have begged her to let him leave while they calmed down. He wouldn't have asked her if she was ok. & He for DAMN sure wouldn't have tried to run & hide from her & then when that didn't work & she kept on w\ her hateful mouth pushing every low blow button & trigger from his childhood (that he had revealed to her in a moment of intimacy) step away & start destroying HIS OWN PROPERTY & THINGS! Any true ABUSIVE prick would have ABSOLUTELY shut her mouth up long b4 she uttered 95%of her nonsense!
@@Amber-yq9ee exactly! The first laugh would have been a real backhand to the mouth with real bruises with those real big rings. Laugh in my abusers face? That’s a deathwish. I… I just couldn’t even imagine laughing at him without him laughing first. If he didn’t show he was happy and laughing at something he said first, I couldn’t even smile. That’s provoking. That’s making fun of him. Absolutely not. No.
Who Laugh, mocking and berating at someone they claim had sexual assaulted with a bottle and smacking her regularly so bad she gets cut and broken nose...!?
It is vitally important for Camille to describe AH's allegations of sexual assault indelicately, bluntly, without mincing words and without softening her language because it is serves to demonstrate the actual weight of those allegations and the impact they have on the accused (JD), on the reputation of the accused, and on the public perception of the accused. Softening her language or skirting around the subject could give the impression that AH's allegations aren't especially damaging or that there is some question as to the brutality embedded in the subtext of what AH is alleging. There is a clear reason why hearing it in that way makes people uncomfortable. It should. Because what she is alleging is extremely serious and should not be taken lightly.
I like that she didn’t apologize for the cursey words. That is Power!
Thank you for this explanation! I thought as much, but it is hard to hear anyways. Good to keep in mind what the reasons and benefits for JD's case are in doing this!
Like someone would not KNOW if a jagged bottle was put up her vaginal canal and NOT know that????
Agreed! And at one point Camille stated as much, saying “Bcuz these are very serious accusations…” as she was getting into specifics.
Another thing I appreciate, although at times it was annoying, was the judge being so patient with AH’s legal team and all the hearsay/objections. They certainly cannot later say the judge was biased or unfair in any way. It lends to the impact of the verdict which I can now easily see going in JD’s favor, even if it was a longer shot in the beginning d/t the nature of defamation cases and the burden required.
AGREED
Anyone else notice Amber said “I’ve never assaulted Johnny” but she’s already admitted to punching him “landing a blow”
Because every single time that she hit him it was in self defence in her opinion…unfortunately for her, she didn’t do any research into DV victims….we do NOT hit our abusers back, we do NOT hit back in “self defence”, we do NOT, EVER chase our abusers around the house begging them to “talk” to us!
@@paradisedreaming6363 preach sis! 👏🏻
@@paur8745 sorry for the rant…she just drives me nuts!! Cheers🥂
She also phrased it as “that was the first time I landed a blow” which insinuates that she has landed a blow more than once, and that she had tried to hit him before
@@caleighhraee “the first time I actually landed a blow” insinuating not only was this not the first time it was the worst!
This is my comfort video. Two powerful, intelligent women taking down a manipulative, spoiled abuser with facts and logic. 10/10 would (and will) calm my anxieties again
You rock my dear
Touché
@B.T O people
It makes me feel way better I’m not the only one 😅😂
You mean Emily and Camille correct? Just checking to see if I missed something like you were talking about the judge and Camille or something else
It's unbelieveable. She said he beated the shit out of her because of a comment about a tattoo, and then he just sits and listen to her berating and humiliating him? The same person who would clock her for some random stuff were patient enough to stay in a driveway for over 1 fn hour ASKING to go, as a "pretext"? What kind of addicted has patience to wait hours to "go and use", after getting permission to go? This is just freaking unbelieveable.
Yes, and the day before she testified, that when he wanted to start drinking stronger alcohol he asked if she was okay with it, and when she said no, he allegedly then slapped her and proceeded to beat her up. This so doesn't make sense to me.
The gross part is how happy & proud she is Every Damn time a picture of her is shown. She thinks she is so beautiful that whatever she says must be believable. I just do not like her attitude every time a pic or her journal notes are shown. She's shameless in her admiration Of Herself! I don't know anyone who Loves Their Self So Much! Depp is right with those writings, She Loves Herself especially looking at herself in pics (Even in Court)😲
Exactly! There is no watching an hour if you have the stuff. If nothing a quick bathroom trip would have been the only way to get some while she was freaking out. And she isn’t the type to even allow that. We see it all so perfectly now.
@@Go-Dawgs on the stand when pics of her were shiwn she had a smile on her face. She really does like looking at pics of herself.
I had a swollen black eye after only 1 slap. It is so gross she lies about die hard beatings & next day she looks perfect!
okay i 100% agree about not necessarily receiving care for SA. It's probably more common than not. HOWEVER if he used a broken bottle she would ABSOLUTELY NOT be able to avoid medical care.
Is this the one r story she supposedly stole?
There’s a photo of the bottles the next day and they are not broken !!!!
Didn't she also say in her statements that she wasn't sure if it was broken or not? I'm sure she did. You'd sure as hell know about it. You'd have to have suffered a catalogue of torture to not know if broken glass was inside you!
@@spangol87 Yes. She does say this. This story is one that stands out for me as indicative of absolute untruth because it is such a horrific accusation - above all the rest - that she would certainly have had to address it in ways that she did not. It would have been a torturous event. There cannot be uncertainty regarding whether or not the bottle was broken, for obvious reasons, but also per evidence, since she would not have been able to undergo such an ordeal without any sort of medical treatment or evidence. It simply cannot be.
There's no way she wouldn't KNOW if the bottle was broken. She just throws that in for impact. There is no way we wouldn't feel broken glass, anything sharp would be painfully obvious. No one we would have to wonder if it was broken.
Johnny Depp has the patience of a saint. I don't care what anyone says. If he didn't clock her when she was doing that maniacal laugh and taunting, I don't believe he hit her at all.
Exactly that sadistic laugh was enough too hit her pathetic ass
Lord knows I would've 😆
me too!
I would be in jail🤞
@bopbopanna EXACTLY 💯 👏 PERFECTLY SAID 👌 👏
So let me get this straight: James Franco a man who has been accused of sexual misconduct more than once is the man that she (an alleged victim of sexual abuse and assault) was comfortable with having in her home? She was comfortable being alone with someone who has been accused of misconduct over and over again but she has PTSD from her traumas? I'm not buying it like at all.
I think that’s a great point, something I am surprised more people have not brought up. Even as a Midwesterner I know some about James Franco sexual misconduct allegations. If those allegations are true, it is hard to imagine a sexual abuse survivor would feel safe around such a person.
He wasn't known to be an abuser at the time she was cheating on Johnny with him. That became known a couple years later
@@michelleyamamoto5519 that's actually only partially true women have known this about James Franco since he was doing it. People in his inner circle have even said as much. The same way that people knew about Harvey Weinstein before everything came out for the entire public to know that's how James Franco's situation was to my understanding.
@@michelleyamamoto5519 I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that I have this correct.
@@Lina_unchained Ok here is what I think of the whole Franco affair, based solely on the fact that she knew Johnny was finally leaving her and she wanted/needed(?) a replacement (due to the nature of the 136 cluster B etc mental illness she has) that was also very famous. He was "teaching"/mentoring his own acting workshop school thing, the women James sexually abused/manipulated into trysts for supposedly helping them inthe industry in the future, were mostly from there, and there is no evidence AH knew any of those women or any of the stories of his previous female coworkers on films, which came out in the news a few years later. Amber and James were not "in each other's inner circle", they made a movie and hung out a few times alone, certainly at least once in Johnny's penthouse complex. I don't think we can assume she knew anything other than that she wanted another super famous boyfriend to replace the one she just lost. All she cared about was her own public image, and ex-wife of Johnny Depp was not how she wanted to be seen. Like the baby she had a surrogate have for her, which I believe was all for public sympathy pretrial. I won't buy her upcoming book, but I cannot wait to read about what crap she's going to make up next. I hope she gets sued again.
Everyone lies but me... Even the psychologist I HIRED FOR THIS TRIAL... Unreal!
Dr Hughes absolutely testified that Amber admitted to cutting herself. I remember because she answered in first person, as if she was Amber.
The people that are there to support her testimony are now also wrong and are lying. So "don't believe my witnesses or lawyers"
lmao i didnt even put it together it was that psychologist she was talking about. She just throws everyone under the bus its probably why Rachel and io no longer speak to her as well
And her attorneys lol 😂
I am also a survivor. There is NO way you would talk to an abuser the way she does. Mostly I was afraid to look at him!
Because "your" looks may even set him off. To speak in an angry or accusatory manner is simply asking for an episode of abuse. (Using your as you, me, and anyone that has experienced abuse)
I been through it, I feel like it's almost impossible to forget the events.
@@noramero2955 it's true. I block it out because that's easier to live with. But, when having to recall, I can, just like that! Like it was yesterday.
Exactly.
My heart goes out to you and others who are survivors of horrific acts! Many blessings!!💕
She constantly refuses to take responsibility.
has anyone notice amber messing with some king of earing ?? shes wearing a sometime of headphone "amber heard " at 54:06 u can see diferentes ear rings on the right of the screen , ,she mores her hand and she looks like shes turning the volume Up ???
i wish she could accept her own wrongs so that she could actually learn and change for herself and others sakes
Woahhh Fab! I’m going to watch this again and look for that! If she is doing that-that just shows how above the law she thinks she is! Wow!
I’m dating myself but it feels like watching an episode of ‘Cheaters’ where people flat out deny even after being caught on video (I know it was a heavily scripted show).
The only thing she’s consistent on
I am listening to this... after he's won. BC I couldn't take the stress while it was happening. This is offensive to any person that has been abused. Really disturbing.
This is me. Much “easier” (because it’s still hard) to listen to when you know the outcome.
yeah, I watched it live, but I was super stressed out thinking she was going to get away with it. It was clear to many of us that she was lying, but you never know how these things will go.
@@izzeypally Same here. I was biting nails on verdict watch and was so relieved and happy when the verdict came through.
Thank you. As a survivor of domestic violence myself, I didn't believe her for one solitary second.
Please forgive this overlong comment.
I am a retired psychologist and widow of a California Superior Court Judge.
QUESTION: Has anyone asked AH if her injuries are self inflicted?
~~ For many years I had to write reports for the court regarding 72 hour psych evaluations.
Many times family members filmed loved ones hitting themselves to create bruising.
Black eyes are not easy to achieve but the mottled red marks on AH look like the result of repeated slaps. Try this yourself: place your hand on your cheekbone with fingertips above your eyebrow. You will find the same imprint pattern. Her lip looks like a spoon left in the freezer and placed on her lower lip. It is sad to realize how often this happens.
Regarding the clumps of hair: that is not the pattern when hair is ripped out by an attacker. Her bald spots look like taking a tress of hair and twisted until it comes out. Hair falls down in piles, not stretched out like these photos show. It all looks staged. Why weren't forensic crime scene experts used to examine these photos? Forensic experts would catch all of this.
AH is showing fatigue from keeping herself in check for prolonged periods of time.
Should have hired you! X
@@helenaawdry8916 thank you, but this circus made me happy to be retired.
Both sides retained less than professional experts. Experienced experts would see everything I saw. Who knows how many they rejected before retaining the ones who would say what they want. AH 's team scraped the bottom of the barrel. JD 's team behaves with dignity and grace no matter how difficult AH 's team makes it for them. Camille is a rising star.
Thankyou, that was fascinating… and very scary :(
It’s scary that anyone would do this. The spoon? Wow, how does anyone think this up.
I don’t like what Amber is doing, but I hope somehow, some way, she gets help. If nothing else, the people in her life would benefit from Amber being under proper and effective care.
@@gwynbly97 thank you LN friend. It is scary. This is how a manipulative narcissist operates. What is more frightening and dangerous? She is now raising a child ~~ who can wind up as her victim or even worse than AH.
Great analysis... thank you 👍👍👍
So, let me get this straight. JD wants to leave her for awhile so he can go out & get high and then beat her up…AND yet HE is ASKING her PERMISSION to leave? He’s not storming off in a rage? But asking her permission? Seems like HE is the one afraid of HER.
Absolutely
YES He is trying to placate her (and calm her down, separate from the fight) and she is trying to fight (find the solution). Translation: A knockout is the solution!
She thinks repeating “he’s an addict” over and over will translate to “he’s abusive”. I’m glad he brought this suit and hope he wins.
Isn’t the problems with addicts, turing toxic when they run out of drugs? I don’t see Johnny not be able to at least afford some hash
Yes this case is do important for many reasons. It has exposed her and all her lies
@@finnmarr-heenan2397 yes and no. When we run out, many of us may engage in sneaky, manipulative, deceitful behavior in order to get more of the substance (I’ve done something very shameful to get more of my drug of choice, and no it wasn’t anything sexual. I never shame sex work or feeling like you need to resort to selling your body to get more of your substance. I’m shaming myself for something I’ve done multiple times, and I’m ONLY shaming myself). Many people unfortunately also steal money and/or other things from loved ones in a desperate attempt to re-up. I’ve never done that one. Many people also end up lashing out and doing things uncharacteristic of their sober selves when they’re in withdrawal and need their fix. I’ve definitely been extremely irritable but I’ve never been abusive as a result of running out.
Many people sadly end up being very abusive on their substance, depending on what the substance is. Depp’s substances were almost all downers, and he took them to escape his childhood trauma and the lasting effects it left (as it always does😔, can sadly relate). He was usually passing out from his drug and alcohol use, and I don’t know many people who are suddenly abusive as soon as they’re…passed out?…?
@@finnmarr-heenan2397 that depends on the person and the addiction. Most would just leave to get more. Most addicts aren't violent, those that are violent are most likely violent sober as well.
An she drinks an does drugs too lol
"This is the knife you gave to the man hitting you?"
"I was pretty sure he wasn't going to stab me with it, that's for sure"
This is insanity, that she could even utter these words and imagine others could take her seriously
as a surviver of D.A i would never give my ex a knife!!!
Also, it was engraved with "until death".
Like, first off, don't give a lethal weapon an engraving romanticizing death (unless it was given/passed on from a dying/dead person maybe).
And secondly, don't give someone a gift with fucking wedding vows on it when you've not even been together one year.
And thirdly, if your boyfriend hits you all the time with big chunky rings, don't give him a weapon, especially not one engraved with essentially "only death can break us up".
Like, every single aspect of the gift was a bad idea if we're to trust Amber.
But if we believe Johnny, then yes, someone with intense emotions and a fear for being apart would definitely make those kinds of gestures sooner and would sooner ignore all three of those red flags.
How did they manage not to ask immediately - why?? How could you be sure he wasn't going to stab you??
@@avp6730 Emily spoke about this at some point, Depp's team whole strategy is to make Amber explain herself and let the jury decide for themselves if she's lying or not, the team doesn't have to spell everything out for the jury because if the jury arrives at a conclusion on their own they'll feel more sure this conclusion is correct, so they lead the jurors to the answers but let them take the final step. No one likes to be told what to think, just compare the closing arguments of boths teams, it's ridiculous, Elaine was trying to give the jurors her own answers so hard, so was rottenborn but I think he was more subtle about this.
And this is why I don't understand how someone can watch the whole trial and still claim Amber is right, it feels like her and her team were fighting against the truth the whole time, I feel awful about thinking this cause I know there's people who are real victims that do sympathize with Amber but I can't just wrap my head around it.
She's absoloutley nuts
She can't admit weakness. That's why she can say "He was scary." But she can't say "I was scared." That's why she "Has NEVER thought of myself as a victim." Give her all her stories in a way that highlights her weakness and she'll all of a sudden deny they ever happened.
Pppppppppppll
im not surprised AH doesnt see herself as a victim... she's clearly a Aggressor, Abuser, and a Bully. and the longer this trial goes on, the worse her image seems to become. Im not saying JD is a saint. AND any relationship with this much booze and drugs.. AND EGO, is going to be a nightmare. I dont think either of them are particularly friendly with the truth.
And to think Amber's Team is trying to show her as a victim with weaknesses.
True narcissism
Either Amber is lying, or everybody that has ever testified to anything in this case is lying. Take your pick.
i'd say the former 😅
If you remove Depp's servants as reasonable witnesses since they're loyal to him by profession, the majority of evidence suggests that Johnny Depp abused his ex wife.
If it were one person lying yeah OK, but it’s hard to think 20 people who might not know each other are all lying. I feel like she makes the accusations because she lies so it doesn’t have the same sting it does coming from an honest person.
Her laugh in the 2h30min audio JD’s team showed was SO DISTURBING! She was literally humillating him and yet she still claims she’s the victim
U N B E L I E V A B L E 🙃
That one's the creepiest thing ever.
Super weird laugh. Shrieking and hellish
What was the context of that anyway? She sounded drunk or high. It was so strange to hear.
I’m going to have nightmares about it 😂
That audio was definitely creepy. Did not show AH in a good light or as a victim
Camille did so much research and was so prepared for this cross. She was even prepared for amber to argue with her on every front, and had things ready to counter. So good
She had years of depositions to study and it is apparent she studied them and also Dr. Curry’s diagnoses to prep for AH likely responses. Camille slayed her. As Emily said she had her receipts ready.
Him running away from her is a sign he is going to beat her up??? Isnt that the exact opposite of someone confrontational? The lies just get more convoluted
Its a sign for her because she knows, if she harasses him enough, at some time he will use physical strength to move her out of his way to leave.
No abuser runs away from their victim and no victim chases their abuser around from room to room…
She relies heavily on this type of gaslighting in every area of her life. Must be exhausting.
@@iramage2235 yes, it does really get someone’s nerve because they try to avoid unnecessary arguments. She knows that really well
I think she claimed that he would go do drugs and come back and beat on her, that's why She tried to stop him going. Or maybe that was in another chapter of her fantasy novel.
Johnny's attorney just earned herself top billing bc if I had money and a court case, I want her on my side 100000%
I would pay money to see her tell off Karens at a fastfood joint
This is a car crash of a testimony. Depp lawyer is absolutely slaying this. Amazing lawyer, great timing, great tone, great positioning of the narrative and timing of the questions.
Annihilation
I know this is old at this point and nobody will ever see this but one thing that ALWAYS stands out to me is when Johnny says to Amber "...and then I watched you lie" To me that statement alone puts me in Johnnys shoes and state of mind in the moment so well. Imagine WATCHING someone lie and lie about you and eventually you give up trying to convince people that you're in fact the one telling the truth. That must be such a painful and helpless feeling.
Something that stands out to me HUGELY and drives me mad is how everything amber says she says it x2 " you think you're so tough. You think you're so tough" " I loved him, I loved him" which is fine, although obnoxious and annoying. However the issue comes when she's apparently quoting what somebody else says, and does it with that alleged direct quote, as its how she personally speaks, it's extremely unlikely every other person in her life has that obnoxious habit to their speech, it's obviously just her trying to fill time and make it look as though it's a genuine retelling of what somebody has said, cringe.
So many of us come back over and over to watch/listen to this. If the outcome had been different,I don't know if we would. Sometimes it has a calming effect,sometimes it's just something to fill silence. But,I think a mutual aspect of rewatching,is the disbelief and attempting to understand how a seemingly intelligent woman could claim she was beaten so badly that she had 2 black eyes,a broken nose,etc,then show a photo with a tiny red spot on her face, and expect other people to believe it. That's like holding up a photo of a baby bunny and expecting people to believe it's a Clydesdale that's 16 hands high and weighs 1300 pounds. Also,the idea of how easily she damaged him and how she could have completely ruined another human being if she had only toned down the lies a little. I'm all about feminism,believing victims and MeToo,but I think this gave all of us a wake up call. Feel free to still leave comments anytime. There's so many of us that still watch and interact.
@@czhaokAlso,how in her testimony and even in the divorce and UK depositions, she says that during almost every 'incident' Depp said,"you think you're tough? Are you a tough guy?". I think it's simply because she started so many fights that she can't remember the dialog so she just fills it I'm with cheesy bullcrap.
@@bethnorrod5942Yes! It's comical because her accusations are so out there. But literally all she had to do was say that he was verbally abusive. The recordings don't support that. It's clear that he's trying to match her energy in recordings. But I do think she would've gotten away with it. You can't see the damage done from verbal abuse - for that you have to take people at their word.
@@bethnorrod5942 Excellent comment. I totally agree.
As a survivor, I haven't forgotten a single detail of what happened to me. I'm 26 now and it happened when I was 8. Her lies make me so angry.
Deadspooky, Johnny has opened everyone's eyes, even the people who are still victims, because they will have those words ringing in their ears, "DON'T SIT DOWN"! These words are golden, even for children, because we have to teach our children. I did, when my children were little growing up. They never forgot. God bless you. ✝️❤️🙏 Remember to let go and forgive, don't be a prisoner of they're behavior. God's wrath is better than we can imagine.
Yes I agree HOWEVER, I too was 8. I'm 33 now. You and I didn't have a child hood. ☹️. but also Johnny was the type of person that abused me. If Johnny forced AH to have sex once. INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE. And when she told her store about searching for drugs in her vagina .. that also happened to me.. that's why I know ADDICTS NEVER CHANGE.
Exactly.
@@gabynarufan Just because he is an addict doesnt mean she rapes women. That is an insane conclusión
@@chardizzlene I absolutely understand and this is just my experience but when she's trying to say she remembers everything so vividly and Johnny is a bad historian in her words it just makes me mad. Also to the above comments amber is a drug abuser too it's not fair to say that's what makes Johnny a liar.
Every time I see someone try and call Amber the victim I come back to these videos. I genuinely can’t see how anyone could watch this trial and come to that conclusion.
@@catness24 I think they are bots.
They main argument I see is that Amber is an "imperfect victim", what I THINK they mean by that is Amber doesn't act scared of Johnny, she never even cried, which would be fine if it didn't came across that she was trying to cry but was failing at it, you don't need to cry for people to believe you, you only need to tell the truth. And I hear this imperfect victim argument and I'm like, ok in court is one thing but in most of the recordings we heard she also wasn't scared of him, the only one that I remember thinking she might actually be scared was the one where JD was playing with knives and she was telling him to stop, and I also remember camille crossing her about a compromising picture of JD (I think he was sleeping?) that Amber sent to someone, Camille asked something like "weren't you scared of sending that picture of mr. Depp to another person?" and Amber responds with "Why would I?", if she really was afraid of him cause he was super controlling like she said wouldn't she think he might go through her phone and see she sent that embarassing picture of him to another person? Wouldn't she fear retaliation from him?
The other part of the imperfect victim argument that I've seen is that Amber is imperfect because she lacks evidence that the abuse actually happened but that doesn't mean it didn't happened, and that we can't turn this into a 'pics or it didn't happen' situation. I would be more willing to listen to that argument if Amber and Elaine didn't said they had a MOUNTAIN of evidence of the abuse and if pictures they brought to court weren't shown to be phony (like the identical wine stained floor ones who are supposed to be from different days), if Amber really had time to gather a mountain of evidence why didn't we see a single medical record or decisive testimony of the injuries she suffered because of the bottle incident? If it really happened like she said she wouldn't be able to cover that up. Why bring shady evidence like that to a court of law? If in fact she had been gathering it for years now? I don't believe anything Amber says, I can't, she really turned into the Girl who cried Wolf for me, I was willing to believe JD got violent with her when he got drunk because of Ellen Barkin's testimony but Amber has been caught lying so many times I can't in good conscience believe anything she says anymore even if it's plausible like JD beating her up while drunk.
@@Prototype-357imperfect victim, she's a small woman,his vulgar texts prove he's an abuser,he's an addict and they abused each other are the reasons I usually read/ hear from Amber supporters. I think the main reaon,really,is they are narrow minded and don't believe a man can be a victim. I read a Pro Amber redditt thread, most of them only watched Depps cross and Ambers testimony. The few that did watch Ambers cross claimed she made a fool of Camille and that Camille is a horrible lawyer. It really blew my mind. I think a lot of them are the type to believe everything they see on social media,too,because there was several that said all his exes came forward with claims of abuse,and ofc they supposedly saw those claims on social media. And of course, even though it's still an active thread,anything pro Depp is blocked. I typed a comment and as soon I hit post,I got a notification that I was blocked for breaking the rules of the sub. I guess,even though the truth is pretty plain here,there's always going to be people who believe differently. What's really scary though is that if Amber hadn't got so grandiose with her claims(he was wearing big rings and hit me so many times I lost count,here is the proof,then shows a photo of normal red cheeks) she probably would have gotten away with the lies and Depp would be ruined.
People who are all feeling and no facts.
@@Prototype-357 Goodness, yes that "Why would I?" line... Also, when Heard claimed she got beat up & _then_ Depp wrote mean things on the mirror to her & she took pictures of the _mirror_ for evidence of how mean he was but didn't take a single picture of her bruised & bloody face? The "conversation with himself" was just a cherry on top of that point. You wanted to show how abusive he was but didn't take a photo showing potential evidence of his physical abuse? I loved how much of the evidence Depp's side used was evidence provided by Heard. Every time I heard Depp's team say "Can we see defendant's exhibit x, y, z..." I was dying laughing.
That taunting she does is so extremely abusive. The fact that people listen to that and have the gall to say Johnny was abusive is so disgusting.
The taunting audio where she is just laughing at him got me crying. It’s so uncomfortable and painful and it isn’t even driected at me. How Johnny carried that weight is astounding. It’s.. horrifying she almost got away with it.
Anybody who is still on the fence needs to just listen to their personal recordings in full. There are so many recordings. Listen to the unedited ones. They are so telling. So difficult to hear. They are triggering, especially for me cos I was in an emotionally abusive and toxic relationship. In those tapes Amber Heard comes across as the abuser, the monster, the manipulative psychopath. And then I suggest everyone to go and watch her Times Up rally speech, right after listening to those personal recordings. Her malice is clear.
Yes yes yes
@@sekichdawn3913 I’m sorry to hear of your brother and sister’s experience. I hope they are healing/have healed.
They haven’t listened to it, I guarantee. They’re just going with biases based on their own experiences. And if they did listen to it and still agree with AH, then they’re abusers themselves.
"I've never assaulted Johnny. I couldn't."
😦 MA'AM, YOU ADMITTED TO HITTING HIM IN AN AUDIO RECORDING.
What even is this trial anymore
It's like she honestly feels like slaps arent hitting and like if she soesnt physically cause him pain it doesnt count. She'll say I didnt mean to do that, moments later that becomes I didnt do that. She believes the stories in her head for sure
Ma’am!
The trial is an exercise in the constitutional rights of the plaintiff and the defendant. Nothing wrong with that, it’s just Amber really screwed the pooch for herself.
Amber, "I disagree with your characterization of that"
Multiple times in different instances as well.
And throwing things at him, in court!
"Your husband is walking around the house, bleeding, and you're writing snarky messages to him on a mirror" 😆
But he's the love of my life where's that knife I bought don't go Johnny or else I'll die or you will your name and your integrity I will slice up
I love how impartial Emily was until she witnessed the disastrous nature of Amber’s testimony. So anyone saying she’s biased - is biased.
Agreed and even then, she was trying to stay fair but there was just TOO much that wasn't lining up and directly contradicting evidence, her witnesses and even her own testimony.
If I was assaulted with a bottle in the manner in which she described, it would probably bring me tears and would probably be hard for me to describe what I went through. When Camille talks about it, it's like it doesn't faze Amber. Yet when her lawyers question her about it, she "cries". Give me a break!
Could you imagine getting assaulted by a bottle (broken or not) in the manner Amber described to the point that she was bleeding and not seek medical attention? I mean, she even went back to the US without JD the next day and she never got checked out by anyone? No medical records ever? For any injuries?
I experience physical discomfort even imagining it. I do not understand why someone would make up a story that disturbing. Could’ve really gone my whole life without that image!
But anyway, a woman who was very interested in having a baby would I imagine want to see a doctor to make sure she had no damage to reproductive organs.
Amber doesn't have the brainpower to both lie and focus on the questions past, present, and future coming from her adversary, Camille and keep her story straight. That's why the descrepences slip in, the contridictions in the next sentence, the real Amber between the shifting emotions. The times she gets lost and she has to ask Camille to repeat the question I believe she has been so focused on her next lie she didn't hear the words coming out of Camille's mouth. Lying is hard work and takes more brainpower.
@@RexBlanchard Very true. Narcissists only think “in the moment”.
"YOU'RE the one who assaulted someone with a bottle in Australia, RIGHT Ms. Heard?" That was lethal!!🤯⚖️
Her need to reframe every question with her testimony and her constant turning to the jury even with small answers like "that's correct" irritates me to no end! I need a mega pint before they come back from break.
To take extra time
Same. So irritating
Hahahaha!!! Love it!!! 🤣😂🤣😂
Same I find it unbelievable! The way she's constantly staring at them. Must be very intimating for the Jury.
She turns to them so much that you can clearly tell she is acting and being instructed to do so
Holy crap. Her maniacal laugh and the way she’s taunting him in the tape is horrifying. Like horror movie horrifying. She’s scary. My mother was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and she and Amber have a ton of similarities. My mom also refused to believe the diagnosis, never got treatment, and everyone else is crazy and a liar but her.
i personally know a few people in my life who are the exact same. Everyone else is always wrong and theyre the only ones who know anything. You never know what really happened with anything because the lies are so constant. Its really hard to deal with when its going full tilt, I feel your pain and I hope your mom got the help she needed
I know someone like this too and he refuse to get treatment, that is what makes him as dangerous as any other type of narc, I feel.
I'm diagnosed with bpd and when I heard the first few recordings of the trial I thought "she sounds like she's got bpd... I hope I'm not projecting..." and then Dr Curry came out and I was like "Welp. there it is."
Hearing this recording in particular is so chilling... it's like me, if I had zero empathy or shame. that's what always stopped me from hurting people. group therapy (CBT) is sooo wonderful and helpful and I wish everyone with bpd would seek it cuz it makes your life so much easier and happier.
@@befumms I totally had the same experience! When this all started I thoughts it sounded like me when I was at my lowest points before I was diagnosed and got therapy!
Everyone should get therapy it makes the biggest difference!
@@befumms glad you got the help you need :)
She’s really going to sit up there and say everyone else is lying. The police, all these security guards and doctors, everyone.
Wow. Okay.
They're all Johnny's "yes people " afterall ,apparently 🙄 justice for Johnny 🤘
The irony is she's lying and fighting so hard to protect her image yet her testimony is doing the most damage.
But sure didn't you know Johnny has gotten to everyone to get them to lie for him? The police and all are Johnny's yes men. That's the only answer. Everyone else is lying. Ambers own words in the audios are even lying!
With no evidence of her person after these attacks.
@@fluerii4201 the best part is that she also implied that her expert witness is lying (or mistaken)
I can’t believe it’s already been 5 months since this mess. I still come here to de-stress 😎
Same 😁
Me too! Emily’s (and other Law-Tubers’) streams are so entertaining and informative, I love to listen/watch when doing chores around the house, makes it so much more fun!
Sometimes you just want to see someone great at what they do do something great. And this is great because it’s Emily and Camille at their best.
Holy crap that call when she's frantically begging him not to go, and she starts crying and saying that she's going to die if he leaves? Holy that is the biggest presentation of BPD I've ever heard. This solidifies her BPD diagnosis in my opinion. It's so textbook and Powerful. She believes her own lies. She has distorted thoughts and she gets confused about who did what because she has no identity. She steals Johnnys. She gets the two of them confused because she completely depends on his identity. Without him she literally feels like she doesn't exist at all. This is a severe pathology and that's enough for me to completely believe that all those manipulative lies shr told are absolutely & accurately pathological diception
Absolutely you can see she believes these lies she tells. In her mind it probably feels real but her actions back to him let us see that she’s clearly not afraid of him! She’s addicted to him.. just so much to grasp with it all!
And it was all because he was going to see his daughter for a few hours ! Psycho woman
@@amandaford2741 100% that 1st or was it 2nd audio Camille played on Monday during her 1st initial cross-examination started REALLY stuck w\me. Well, honestly there's so many that stick w\me. But it was the 1 where he's telling her not to fucking touch him. & She is crying she just wanted a hug just one last hug & he is SO vehement & clear about being done & NEVER looking in her eyes again & wanting nothing to do w\her. I believed her emotion there bc it was clear she was scared & freaking out bc she realized he was SERIOUS this time & DONE w\her! & I believe 100% that she was hoping to seduce him & get him back under her control & when she couldn't, she freaked out & realized she'd went too far & of I think that's when she REALLY started trying to make her paltry excuse of "evidence" actually seem real & trying to fit her story. The problem is, I believe bc of HER abuse of drugs & alcohol &bc of her arrogance & need to have everything MAJOR & DRAMATIC, that she honestly does not remember all the actual real hard evidence that contradicts what she's said. & She thinks she's smarter than everyone else & that she can talk around ppl. & Honestly that she prob watched the movie How To Deal w\Mandy Moore too many times & TRULY believes she can Jedi Mind Trick the entire world! "You SEE my awful 😞 bruises & injuries & broken noses & scars & chunks of bloody hair & scalp ripped out! You KNOW I'm telling the truth & my amassing of the strongest evidence of DV & SA are the most solid & MOST AWFUL evidenced you've EVER seen! Look at me! You see me scared & traumatized having to.... Stop look at ME! You see me sobbing & you KNOW I'm having the worst flashbacks & strongest reactions of ANY victim you've ever seen! You KNOW the pattern & cycle of abuse Johnny put me thru! You KNOW I'm telling the truth & I donated ALL that 💰! You can see I'm just a badly traumatized woman who's embracing my inner strength & heroism & I'm fighting back against the "man" & trying to move on w\my life"
🙄🤔🤣🤣🤣 Silly cunt! Nobody is falling for that BS! Lie lie lie lie nonsense lie! 🤥
@@Amber-yq9ee I loved all of this but your last paragraph cracked me up as I wasn't expecting it. You English by any chance? That sounds like our kind of "wrap up" analysis of a situation 😆
That recording was the one time I actually felt sympathy for her, because I knew when she said “you’re killing me,” she meant it literally. I’ve since wondered if she also felt like she was literally being poked, backed into a corner and shoved against a wall, and if that’s where her allegations of abuse come from - she _feels_ like she’s being physically attacked, and that perception becomes her reality. I’m no expert on BPD, far from it, but that would explain a lot. (I’ve also got some theories about the things she reports JD screaming at her being things her father said when he was abusing her, e.g. “be a man,” “you think you’re tough?” and “you fucking ruined my life,” none of which sound characteristic of JD, but that’s enough armchair psychology for now.) The confused identity aspect hadn’t occurred to me, but I think it’s a solid observation, and probably spot on. Thanks for sharing it!
“I hate having you hurt” sounds like “I’m sorry I hit you but I had to do it to teach you a lesson” 1:18:08
can we also notice that she always says Johnny not Mr. Depp and JD says Mrs. Heard
That's exactly what I was thinking too! It's got a very "I did it for your own good" vibe to it.
"Now look what you made me do!" 🙄
Camille Vasquez is an excellent lawyer and as a fellow Latina I'm living right now! Amber Heard cannot answer a single question with a straight answer...
I am loving it and she is a wonderful representation of your culture.
Camille is the GOAT
She is an incredible role model! Her intelligence is on full display.
We need Ms. Vasquez and Dr. Curry mercy. Sane , strong women unite!
Should be a politician, Heard not Camille 😊
Re-watching the entire trial in 2024, for nostalgic purposes. I adore Camille with each passing question!! She's a straight SHARK!!⚖️ 🦈👑
I'm FLOORED by her testimony today. Like she's straight up pathological. I so wanted to believe her, but jesus christ, nothing she says rings true and somehow she keeps doubling down on everyone else being wrong. How does this work?
Same same 🤦🏻♀️ what a disgrace to women
Typical narcisist ...plus her beauty created a false pedestal. Scary woman.
Mental illness …
I feel the same way true! I was giving her the benefit of the doubt until like late yesterday. Now it feels like she’s lying about everything 🤯
She would lie about the stupidest things. If it was raining, she would say it's not raining and it's sunny and no clouds in the sky. She can not tell the truth
She speaks to Johnny in such a way that screams that she's is NOT afraid of him in any way shape or form, totally opposite of how she tried to paint him to be so abusive and a monster
literally!! as a victim of both physical and emotional abuse i would NEVER speak to my abusers that way. telling them what to do and belittling them…that would make everything worse. i probably wouldn’t have survived. the few times i have talked back i learned my lesson very quickly, and i didn’t do it to the extent she did. just little comments trying to defend myself from gaslighting and whatnot. if johnny was as abusive as she said he is, her calling him a baby and taunting him for running away from all their fights (which is also something he wouldn’t do if he was that abusive), or telling him to stop slamming the cabinets in that one video when he’s already agitated, she would’ve been pummeled immediately, as she’s said he’s done before. i haven’t been beaten to the edge of my life but i’ve been held in a chokehold and hit and things thrown at me, and it would only get worse if i talked back the way she did. an actual abuser that is as bad as she says he was would’ve killed her if not beaten her within an inch of her life.
She speaks as someone with BPD desperate because they feel they're losing their love interest.
You … you don’t understand! I finally stood up to him after years of abuse!!!!! I finally gather up to courage to fight back!!!!
@@PungiFungi me too. She sounds pushed beyond her limits and he never for a moment seems intimidated by her. Or even breaking a sweat.
@@7Mushrooms7 I mean she might even lost her love interest cuz she cut off his finger
I have ADHD and dyslexia, I am a teacher of kids with learning disabilities. I love that you are so strong and open about your learning needs. The world needs to see more super strong people who are successful.
💪💪💪
I have adhd. this trial has created hyperfocus
Likewise i have both but unfortunately not a teacher ... even i can see her lies and the way she tries to justify everything in a negative manner for Johnny but positive or victim like manner for herself..its so narcissistic
Ben King wasn’t joking when he said she acts like a spoiled teenager “I CANT HEAR YOU” like wtf
Just what I was thinking. His description of her was spot on.
JD has the patience of a saint,I would have lost it......she was taunting him and hated the fact that he was calm
AH : "He chopped my head off with a broadsword."
Cross: "He chopped your head off?"
AH: "Yes, I remember my head rolling on the floor across the room from my body and wondering why the carpet had gotten so dirty."
Cross: "And there are no crime scene photos of your murder?"
AH: "No. I did not seek medical attention."
😂😂😂
Best comment!😂😂😂😂😂🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
OMG 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😉😉🤣🤣
@@indylwth2327 truly gold. I happily laugh again when I get a notification. A perfect joke. Impressed nay awed over here
I'm dead 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
I'm dying to know if AH is up there literally thinking "I am KILLING it up here, these lawyers got nothing on me!"
Because I think she actually believes that.
Lol me too. I truly believe she thought she was killing it
That’s what’s so crazy. She really was buying her own bull shit.
She was killing it! Sure did and buried herself as well.
I think she did. News covering the trial tried to paint her former life manager as a bitter and vindictive woman because she answered her cross very directly with blunt yes and no answers. She never tried to explain herself and waited for redirect. She honestly did AMAZING. But because laymen who were being begged to spin in AH's favorite were trying to tell people she was actually just a bitter old hag, she thought the best method was her go-to. Twist wiggle and warp her way out of things by mincing words and trying to misdirect by combining events to intentionally confuse the jury. Classic narc.
She also said "why would I" about not being scared to buy her abuser a knife.
That's like Brandon Biden agreeing to take a mental cognitive test or President Trump agreeing to take an IQ test.... It makes no sense, it's the last thing you would expect to happen.
Camille: "no, ms. Heard, i'm talking about YOUR actions".
AH: *visible confusion*.
You can tell she's never once even considered her own actions before in her life lmao.
The Team Work in this trial From Brown-Rudnick is amazing...Even Dennison is there watching. He has no witnesses today, but he is watching her. This is preparing his cross of her witnesses to come. He was there yesterday too. The attorneys behind the scenes work is awesome, they sit there also. My gosh Depp has at least a dozen working for him that we can see! The work done for Vasquez & Meyers to back them up with facts is mind boggling. Chew Chose This Team, Assignments & duties. Camille aiding Jessica with Depp Testimony & Jessica aiding Camille with Heard Testimony will probably be the norm for big cases from now on. I think Jessica Myers Deserves Way More Credit For Her work here. She Handled Depp with just as much expertise as Camille did with Heard. Sad she didn't get recognized for that. I love that Chew let these younger Attorneys have their witnesses also. The one who had Ben King Was very good & the Blonde young lady had a great voice in court. But Dennison's presence was the tell for me. He's going to let Dr. Curry know what he witnessed. He's going against more witnesses to come. This team is Very Professional and Each Gave Their All. Bravo Brown-Rudnick!
As a survivor or SA and DV I would have NEVER given my abuser a knife or any sort of weapon they could possibly use to hurt me. That is asking for something terrible to happen to you and could possibly lead to your death. On top of that as someone in pharmacy taking 8-10 MDMA pills in a SINGLE night would land you in the hospital. You would OD and convulse and could potentially lead to death.
Lol You don't think a knife that says "death " on it is a great gift for someone you're terrified of?
It breaks my heart. The video of JD smashing up cupboards is a man who is tormrnted by an abusive woman whose had multiple affairs, has freeloader friends who probably also tormented him in subtle ways. Gross
1 thing I have noticed is how this case has unified the left and right. Some friends and I went to the bar Friday night, we are all right wingers, and 2 guys came in that are left wing. We've come across each other from time to time at different events in the city but don't think we've ever actually spoken with one another. I overheard them talking about the case and we had a little back and forth, few minutes later we invited them over to our table and we all talked for around 2 hours...... We all even made plans to meet up again this Friday.
This might come across wrong but we dubbed the case our 9-11(b/c right after 9-11 the people were unified).
I believe that was also the day he lost his mom.
Johnny Depp’s Story is so sad. I am amazed how he survived his childhood and AH. what an amazing man he is.
That was the day he learned that his longtime lawyer and his accounting firm had ripped him off to the tune of millions and millions of dollars and had gotten him in trouble with the IRS. He had trusted them.
I don't understand how Johnny withstood living with all those young, spoiled, Hollywood brats living and partying around him. Mooching off him and taking advantage of his generosity and kindness.
This was also the day after his Mom passed awaiy, so he was in a very fragile state, I would think.
She is so vindictive. She made sure to file a complaint against the nurse avoid being destroyed
To go after a RN license shows she is willing to go after ones career and destroy their livelihood :((((
This was not her decision!
(Satire)
People who do not seek medical treatment from DV out of fear and/or shame DON'T go on talk shows, walk red carpets, go to lavish parties, all at the time of incidents, risking being photographed and seen by millions of people worldwide. It makes absolutley zero sense. Glad the jury put it all together.
Most don't seek medical help,but she had resources. Private nurses and doctors. Had she been afraid of it being reported,she had enough time away from Depp,since he "left and disappeared during fights", that she could have safely went to an ER and wouldn't have to name her attacker. Most victims don't take photos out of fear,she took embarrassing photos of him while she also claimed he demanded the password and constant access to her phone, and not only wasn't afraid he'd get mad at the embarrassing photos,but failed to take accurate photos of injuries. During my time with an abuser,there wasn't current technology. Had I taken a photo that had to be developed or taken one on the first camera capable phones, I would have been in trouble. She could have taken photos of injuries and hid them in apps,put them in the cloud but deleted them from her phone,saved them on a memory card,etc. She accidentally said it herself in an interview,normal people don't have the resources she had,yet she still doesn't have evidence. Several punches to the face with chunky rings, black eyes and busted noses, then she holds up a photo with a slight red mark on her face and expects people to believe her. It's insane.
When you put it All together she sguilty for sure but...do not generalise from her and say nobody who was abused would ever do x. Its not true. Many abused women don't get medical help. Do go to red carpet events do go to gala parties do have no photographs of their injuries do have no medical reports. You would be 100 percent wrong to say that victims don't do x y or z just because amber is not a victim and did those things. Its not correct and its not right.
@bethnorrod5942 look while I dont think she is telling the truth it is not the case that no abused woman would ever ..x yz. That amber has done. Plenty don't get medical attention despite resources. Plenty don't take photos of theur injuries. And while it's weird there are probably victims who have taken photos of theur abuser as well. Her whole story personality evidence doesn't add up but that doesn't mean that no victim of dv would do some of the things she has done. Like go to a gala. Or red carpet party or photo shoot or xyz. All of it together makes an particular picture but that doesn't mean the individual things she has done would never be done by anyone ever.
@Padraigp but she WAS photographed lol read my comment again
Well that's not true. We know of plenty of Hollywood stars who later shared their stories ...snd yes they were abused andd went to parties. Just because Amber is guilty doesn't mean everyone has the exact opposite experience to her. I'm so sick of everyone saying no victim would ever ..xyz...sigh. its sad how little understanding there actually is.
I love how AH remembers every single detail of the “abuse” that isn’t documented but “can’t remember” or “don’t recall” any documented stuff…my gawd, she is an amazing liar and a despicable, vile abuser!
EXCELLENT point..I didn't even think of that!💯💣
This is so spot on! Very well said!
I take exception to your use of amazing. If she were an amazing liar, then she would be believable.
Had the same thought. She is a huge liar. How dare she pretend to be assaulted and abused.
@@ClaudiaCarranza1 I believe the word "Amazing" was used as very Skilled, or a Good liar (twisting facts even After caught red handed)😉and she has been able to fool Many people including: The Washington Post, The Sun, Elon Musk, Johnny Depp, and many more people for Years. She is a narcissistic borderline and she is dangerous as hell. I feel Very concerned for her child.
Here’s the problem with Heard during cross examination: her memory is spotty when it comes to establishing some very obvious and clear details of traumatic events. But when it comes to details that other witnesses remember and recalled and critically contradict her, suddenly she remembers very clearly and they are wrong.
Exactly. I can count she said “ I remember” thousands times but she can’t remember when she was assaulted.
I don't think she can testified without her lawyer use leading questions.
She only fake cried when on direct but when all that sensitive audio was being played she was straight faced
That's very significant Beau. I'm sure the jury took note of it.
Yep. We all noticed!
On direct she and Elaine controlled the narrative yet she claims to be triggered. When challenged on cross, where her very truth of abuse is challenged, no trigger. Bizarre.
The night my ex-husband attacked me in the worst way, police were called & police issued an intervention order, was the night I discovered true fear. From this point on any time he ignored IO and messages me, rang me or followed me caused me to become hysyerical. I was absolutely terrified of him. AH is making a mockery of true survivors, which is really sad 😔
I’m sorry you had to go through that. I hope you’re safe now.
The audio of her beratinging him for hiding is so triggering. The bathrooms and closets were my sanctuary and my narc abuser always got on me for not engaging and hiding because they love the fight and hate when you deny them their fun.
It's shown in her other audio where she's begging to stay to fight, "pleeeeeeease let us go in to argue". She needs to fight to feel something.
That's why she went and ruined his "safe spaces", (for lack of a better term). She scrawled her abusive insults everywhere he ran, after she chased him out. Like this is the kind of person all the true crime cases I've watched tell you to run screaming from.
@@jennifermommy9373 that's such an insightful and scary conclusion to why the bathrooms were trashed. I 1000% believe that was the intention.
Camille is taking no prisoners! She’s awesome. That knife is massive, why would anyone give that to an abusive spouse?
Exactly.
It was definitely much larger than ot appeared in the photos.
Who would give that as present to someone who gets violent, black out drunk and was in fear that her partner would kill her and he would not even realize he had done it.
Rewatching this after closing arguments. It's crazy how much she changed just from this testimony, to her rebuttal testimony. First it's "he took 8-10 pills", then later its "on no, he didn't take them all at once". First the manager of Hicksville was there,, then he was never there. So many inconsistencies. Shit just never stops changing to fit her narrative and get around the questions.
Nobody could survive that many tablets. But also think about that statement cause she observed him do that even if it was over a period of a few hours , she didn't call a Dr . Don't u think that's strange ? If u saw anyone do that especially ur partner wouldn't u call a ambulance or one of their Dr's at least but no she didn't. Was she trying to make it look like a accidental overdose? That' statement to me says so much I think . I really believe he was lucky to make it out alive. That's how psychotic I think she is.
One thing that irked me the first time I heard it, and has always done so since when I rewatch it once in a while, is her tangent about meeting JD after the divorce on the rehabilitation.
She went into full "we were so in love, we barely could keep our clothes on, he took of his sunglasses, gave me his number, kissed me passionately multiple times", it's straight up the "... and everyone clapped" kind of bad fanfiction writing. Yet she said that, under oath, fully believing it'd win over the jury on her account of everything.
So thrilled that Johnny got the cream of the crop with this legal team, and experts. I love the rapport he has with each of them, and you can tell it's a genuine and mutually respectful relationship he has with them.
When amber answers the question on being the one to complaine on debbie loyd nursing lisence she says i dont believe i did. How can amber not know if she complainend about debbie loyd. She answered that way because she didnt know if camille had evidence that she did complain. Which we all suspect she did complain
Camille is absolutely destroying AH and I am here for it. Camille's line of questioning was so well thought out and well executed, truly a brilliant lawyer. Also Elaine turning off the microphone constantly is very telling, she doesnt want to be heard getting frustrated with her own client who is shooting herself in the foot.
Camille, being a woman, brought out the bitch in Amber. If a male attorney had done the cross examination, Amber would immediately played the role of victim.
I definitely know why Johnny fought so hard to have those cameras recording and streaming to pretty much anyone in the world. those cameras in the courtroom. With the cameras amber is no longer able to spin & weave her tall tales.
Yes, so so so important to see the bodylanguage for ourselves. Contempt, the no tears when pretending to cry, the simmering anger and contempt when under cross
I think if I hadnt seen the trial I would question if he had done these things, after watching, even though I think hes difficult and can yell etc, she totally comes across as a straight up abuser.
It was as a brave decision from a private, introverted man.
Anyone watching in 2024? Amber's cross has replaced Friends for me. 😂 I'm well over 500 views: can quote it by heart 😂❤
😮Phew glad I’m not the only one 🤭
Me too!! I have my favourite lines and everything! ❤
That would have been so traumatising for Johnny Depp to hear those tapes….
It’s completely crazy, how AH slides around answering a simple question. She argues for the sake of arguing. She’s blamed everyone else… I’m betting she’d argue with the dead, when she thinks it will suit her.
More like recharacterise and USE the dead to support her argument, like all of her twisting of Jerry's (rip) good character to have him seem like a shining knight to Johnny's wretch in all the 'carried like baby' crap etc. now he cannot refute her.
She's already even more despicable than you suggest.
When caught in a lie: "I mis-spoke".
Yep, I used to have a friend who did that exact thing. And, she was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. Doesn’t mean everyone with BPD argues just to argue. Just means it can be a common characteristic of BPD patients to avoid accountability with all their might.
@@TCherice you are so right.
@@Neirean I agree with you. Her own mother, also texted Johnny and kept telling him how much she loved him. She’s passed on as well; RIP.
As a DV survivor I used to say ALWAYS believe the victim (the woman) but those recordings are so triggering. I now know men can be victims and there are some psycho women out there. Terrifying.
Yep
Thank god, I’ve heard so many people saying the same thing about always believing the victim but that honestly just sounds like such a dangerous precedent to set and I’m so happy this trial brings to light that people like this do exist and we (specifically the people who don’t know the parties involved personally) can’t just blindly believe everyone that comes forward, as unfortunate as that is for the actual victims
I've never automatically just believed the woman ( excusing some instances). It's kind of sexist just to ALWAYS believe the woman first.
Believe the victim that comes forward whatever sex they are until proven otherwise. Despite this trial most victims are afraid to report and can be blamed. No one should be afraid to seek help but they must be honest victims not vindictive, mentally ill liars.
@@kendallneason3645 I agree 💯. Believe the victim/ survivor. I saw flaws and contradictions in Amber before the trial even began. Unfortunately the lies become more and extreme, watching the just confirmed what I'd known all along.
My son has his nose broken when he was 5 years old and believe me when I said his bleeding was like a river and the same day he has black and blue under his eyes and that last almost 2 weeks after his nose reduction!
Indeed, very few punches to the noses result in no bruising or marks. I’ve had a broken nose and also been punched in the area around my eyes . Both resulted in bruising in the tender area under the eyes aka as a black eye. Which is not that easily covered by makeup, since there is also swelling.
Exactly
When I was a child my best friend and I ran into each other and her forehead hit my nose. The amount of blood was so much I was rushed to a clinic. She’s a lier!!!
I've dropped my phone on my face while in bed and had worse bruising!
Same dude. I broke my nose and even though it healed on its own both of my eyes were so swollen that it hurt to touch them. No amount of makeup can cover that and her eyes don’t look puffy at all.
I'm rewatching parts of the trial on this channel JUST TO SEE EMILY'S REACTIONS. I didn't know about Emily's chanel during the trial, I originally watched it on another channel. LOVE HER REACTIONS - it's great to see different people react.
I am doing the same thing!
Me too
Me too! 👍
Me too lol
Same! I have a long wait in the airport so just passing the time watching Emily’s reaction
Seeing the photo of Johnny on the train, it utterly broke my heart. With his arms around people on either side, and a smile on his face, he’s trying, but anyone can see he has been physically abused. Completely heartbreaking. Johnny we love you and we believe you. ❤️
The picture with he's black eye/face was devastating ❤️🩹 and her sitting and saying it's edited 🤢🤮 wired how he actually have pictures and evidence of him being hut but she had non😐 if she had this magical makeup wouldn't he use it to 🤨
James Franco was accused on more then one occasion of sexual misconduct. But she was ok to have him over to her apartment and get snuggle up close to him
to be fair to her, in 2016 he had not been majorly accused at this point. That happened 2 years later during me too.
@@rosiemurphy7793 true, but he did come out as being a s*X addict.
So that makes you wonder,doesn’t it?
@@Duchessofdutchness oh for sure! and he did have minor behaviour in the press before I just think critism needs to be accurate, honestly i think its a bit weird to have an “adult sleepover” with an overnight bag with a nonfriend while locking your husband out even if she doesnt know about any misconduct
@@rosiemurphy7793 him being paranoid had nothing to do with his “addiction” but everything to do with her infidelity. She tried to seduce Kevin Costner ffs🤣 a man who has been happily married for years. Wonder who else she tried to do what she did with Johnny.
I think it's annoying Heard that Camille keeps just moving on regardless of word parsing answers - she LIKES to fight & Camille isn't giving her the chance & you can see the frustration building on Heard's face - she's used to being able to argue & argue....it's a very effective cross style for Amber Heard specifically! Camille is a Rock Star!
YES they love and live for the fight and when you take it from them, they get more and more angry
“Get it together ELAINE!!”
God I love when Emily says her name like that. It’s hilarious.
Turn on your microphone elaine!
Emily, legal muggle here! You have taught me so many legal terms! I will use it at my work during team meetings when they try to volunteer me for things. “Objection, speculation! Motion to strike” hahaha!!! Love your feedback and insight!
Congrats girl 💕 super happy that you are following your passion!
@@hannahmetzler9532 oh I’m not going down a legal career. Just in social services and gets voluntold to do a lot of things. 😂😂
@@k.ambrosio602 voluntold 😅 I totally feel that one
It's almost like she hated him because he wasn't wrapped up with her. He would leave her to get away from her and she couldn't take it.
She has a fear of abandonment. The psychologist made the point that the personality disorders she has would trigger her to become frantic and even violent to prevent Depp from leaving; even for a minute amount of time.
HPD is not a commonly talked about disorder, but it is a *doozy* of a disorder. Very difficult to navigate around in a relationship, especially a toxic/abusive one. Depp didn’t stand a chance of happiness with such toxicity.
I think she was AND STILL IS truly jealous of how much more famous he is than she is as well
Yes, in my experience these people love the fight. They feed off it and get a high off it. My abuser was self aware enough, or arrogant enough, to tell me how much he loved to fight and that he hated when I would grey stone him because he couldn't get his enjoyment out of fighting and torturing me.
Yep that is abandonment for you which correlates with her mental illnesses.
Abandoned she hated that alone being lonely he no longer desired her he was mentally physically lust done dead too him and she knew it
The fact that she could Not admit that she was scared of him threw that whole act of being afraid to bump into him out of the window. I pray the jury really paid close attention to that...it blew me away.
She is viscous. I honestly have never seen anything like this in my life
The jury was not present at that moment I believe.
@@1250ou OH that's true thanks for the correction 😊...well I know the public saw it and once again it really blew me away. I didn't want cross examination to end it was soooooo good.
It’s insane that every incriminating conversation is recorded. AH is destroyed by her own words.
Her taunting and maniacal laughing in that recording were VERY disturbing.. it was actually triggering for me as a survivor of DV. Her behavior on the recordings is WAY more chilling than her testimony of the alleged abuse she suffered.
Adding to my previous comment - it’s also chilling to hear her manipulative rhetoric on the recording, begging him to stay, while throwing around language illustrative of physical assault (“throwing me up against the wall”). It’s just as chilling to hear the obsession in her voice in these moments - not fear as she’d like to portray. Further, I wonder if in these moments she actually has tears, while “sobbing” hysterically to him, or if its (what I assume) just more of the acting we’ve already seen from her.
It sounds like she is off her face….
The knife thing is crazy. There were times where my siblings and my dad used to hide/lock the knifes away because of our abusive mum/wife. I hated being in the same space as her, I felt repulsed whenever she touched me and I didn't feel safe going to sleep often as our doors had no locks. And yet here AH is begging for her 'abuser' for physical affection, berating him for leaving during arguments and gifting him weapons?! She makes me sick.
Her saying about Australia "of course it was scary" instead of "I was scared" is exactly how Dr. Curry said she was. She would never say "I felt x y z". She needs helps.
I totally didn’t understand what Dr Curry meant at the time but damn is it so clear now!
I don’t recall hearing her say how much pain she was EVER in.
and if she got it she could have a MUCH better life for her and her daughter. I really hope she gets help, if not for herself, for her baby.
@@befumms I wholeheartedly agree.
"She's only going to have one person to blame when she loses this... Her"
Fast forward to Elaine's disgraceful media tour where they blame the actual jury!!! That made me so mad!
She i.o.w. blamed us aswell. We are just as stupid as the jury..2+2 is that 5 or 6 ?!!! Ahhhh maybe its 4, and we got it right...
You are so right! This was so very unprofessional! Elaine was talking so fast, it seemed like she was desperate to get someone to believe her lie. I BET SHE DIDN'T EVEN BELIEVE IT HERSELF!!
I love Ben Chew's unfiltered facial expressions!!
Camille "badass" Vasquez: "you know what a deposition is? You heard debbie testify under oath, correct? Didnt debbie say under oath JD did not throw anything at her?"
Ben: *nods* *nods* *nods*
Aturd: "idk if she said that"
Ben: 😂
Even Emily laughed at the same time Ben chew did at her stupid I can’t recall response lol
1:00:15 saving the time stamp because i find it funny Emily reacted the same way as Ben and she didn't noticed 🤣🤣🤣
@@nicoledenel I noticed too!! Lawyer reactions lol
I really hated when this came out and people would say their opinion is “I think they were both apart of a very toxic relationship” I feel like with what we know, that opinion is staggering. She is with absolute certainty- an abuser. Who drags anyone she’s with down into a cycle of abuse and chaos perpetrated by HeR hands. It feels like a form of victim blaming. Some people are raised to believe this is love, and it’s not their fault.
"The law and the facts are on her side" the law WAS on her side but the "Facts" were NEVER ON HER SIDE, SHE'S BEEN LYING SINCE DAY 1
"I'm so terrified of this man" and I want him so much to "leave me alone" that I CHALLENGE him to sue me. Such a genius...
I can't believe people still think JD won't leave her alone. It's more than obvious that she is the one that won't leave him alone.
And "he is stll the love of my life"..... Yikes !!!!
I have ADHD, and only coffee this morning; the "nerve-citement" from this cross made my Apple Watch give me a HR warning. Camille is fantastic, and Amber's testimony and behaviour/words mincing is super upsetting for me (from a history of similarly abusive and manipulative partners).
Thank you for being you and having this channel!
This comment!!
@@llirman lol it is the bestest comment on the whole internet
That's so funny! I love your comment
Nikita,
I _completely_ understand what you're saying. Talk about a trigger.
😔
But... with that being said, I'm glad to see that there's somebody else out there who's just as Psycho/Narcissist/Sociopathic as my ex was. It's _VERY_ difficult to explain to people what he was like. Now I can just send them clips of AH. It's scary how similar they are.
I end up having to pause and come back and watch stuff later, because it literally makes me sad for JD.
@@goose7574 My husband’s ex-wife is exactly like this you can catch her on video doing some thing and she will deny it. I think it’s fascinating to see that there are way more Cray Cray women than I thought
This trial, especially AH's strange and juxtaposed testimony could be triggering for me, but because of you, Emily, I am able to handle it. I feel women like AH may exploit those of us who are really victims by using real victims as a bandwagon.
Spot on, this is exactly what I believe she's doing. Unfortunately, as you say, at the cost of true victims of abuse, Johnny Depp included. Thankfully she's not good enough of an actress to pull it off, hopefully the damage is minimal.
Juxtaposed is a new word for me. That's the perfect use of the word. Thanks 😊🙏
I too feel AH is doing a dishonor to bpd as well. I know cases are different but I don't identify with her at all or what she is trying to portray. I think she doing us all who are touched by trauma a dishonor.
100% agree. Emily keeps you grounded and in the moment and explains everything so well.
AH is terrifying , the way she just attempts to gaslight in open court..
So Amber, the person who never does drugs, remembers everything perfectly after combining MDMA and mushrooms??? That's pretty impressive.
That is such an intense combo of drugs too!! Like damn I've loved to get trippy in my life but even so I've never combined things like that. If anything I'd smoke weed during the comedown of a psychedelic. I've seen people on two psychedelics at once and it is INTENSE.
Iv took both these drugs never together but separately and I was felt very weird and still to this day don’t remember everything
Also 8-10 mdma pills? Wouldn’t that just incapacitate a person?
@@squirrelgod598 do you think a regular user might have a higher tolerance? 🤔
@@squirrelgod598 depends if there shitty ones you can get for a few euros. Those u could smash back a few but anything decent u would just about cook your self.
I dated a girl who was diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder and Paranoid Personality Disorder, and this was like watching and hearing my own relationship played back to me. BPD's are the most wonderful and terrible people at the same time, and whatever triggers their BPD can turn a great time into an absolute nightmare. There's no rationalizing with it. You want to talk to them like they're able to see reason or be logical, but once they're disorder is triggered, they're no longer in the driver seat. The disorder completely takes over. There's no arguing out of it. There's no way to reach a conclusion peacefully. It just escalated and escalates until it peaks. Johnny was still in the stage of trying to talk sense into her in those voice recordings, because we think we can. We think we can get through. And him trying to go to different rooms, and her following to force the situation to become worse and worse, was exactly my experience too.
I ended up having to evict her, because she refused to leave after I broke up with her. I had to video tape my entire house to protect my things from being destroyed. I had to have family stop by while I was at work to ensure she wasn't burning my house down. Not exaggerating. My mother caught her one time when she came over, walking around my house and motorcycle with a hammer. I had to make records with the police department in case the situation required law enforcement. That was the worst month of my life waiting on that eviction to be enforced. She packed and left willingly 2 days before her month was up, but made my life hell for 28 days. She never shit in my bed though. Thank God.
Didn’t shit in your bed lol I guess you did not have a dog that could be blamed?
Wow I'm really sorry you experienced that. I hope that you're in a good place and that your ex got the help she needed.
@@haute03 I'm better. Taking time being single just trying to remember what normal life was like, because the years I was with her was never normal. That affected my own mental health, made me a recluse b/c i was always afraid she'd go nuts out in public.
She's still the same. Her mom updates me occasionally without her knowing, because she knows I always cared about her and her welling, but she refuses to get help long term. She did go to therapy a few times, once a week for a month or two, but her therapist wanted me to come in with her, and once she said that she quit going completely. I assumed because she was lying to her therapist about everything, which made going to therapy pointless, and she was afraid I'd expose her. It's very unfortunate.
@@skydriver5709 Best to stay away from her and hope she gets help. You should take care of yourself and be with friends who care about you and help you recover.
It’s amazing, AH DENIES EVERY SINGLE STATEMENT OTHER PEOPLE MADE UNDER OATH. SHE JUST OUT RIGHT DENIES THEM, BASICALLY CALLING THEM ALL LIARS. SHE IS SO ABSURD!!!!
Amber Heard is fearing other witness who say the truth under oath because she is projecting upon them her own liying behaviour under oath!!!
Well... what's the alternative? lmao. Either she lies or she admits she was lying.
Why are you yelling
@@alongfellow4147 BECAUSE SHE'S COMMITTING PERJURY IN COURT AND ACCUSING OTHERS OF LYING. (Jokes)
Just a reminder no caps allowed Emily cannot read words in all Caps.
Her FEAR?!?! WHAT?! She isnt just slinking away from her OWN testimony she is RUNNING away!
Wow! She sure didn’t mind living off of his “ sellout” money and didn’t have any issue with living in his “ 15 houses “, did she? She didn’t mind him using that “ sellout” money to pay for $30k a night bungalows at the Beverly Hills Hotel where she and her friends stayed and racked up huge room service bills, either.
She sure begged for that “ washed up piece of shit” to live her and stay with her.
This chick is unbelievable. That recording where she was being so sarcastic and nasty to him was infuriating. Laughing at him like an immature child then later literally BEGGING him over and over to live her and come home.
Who would taunt their abuser that way? Nobody.
Grrrr. This made me so mad.
And when her marriage started going bad she tried getting with Kevin Costner and then elon musk....but she's not a gold digger.
@@stevep2380 Yep! I absolutely agree about her being a gold digger. I didn’t know about Costner, though ! He’s definitely way out of her league. She doesn’t have near enough class for him.
And I keep saying the lord gave that man some amazing patience because I would of definitely been close to hanging her over to Jesus.
The article I saw said she showed up in Costner trailer naked when they were filming 3 days to kill. she and Johnny were supposedly on a break. I guess he didn't like that very much because he called her out on it at a cast party in front of a bunch of people. Allegedly he doesn't like her very much.
I'm not sure how true or untrue the article is but given ambers pattern of behavior I wouldn't put it past her.
“You weren’t scared of him at all, were you?” We love a sassy Camille
Edit: Amber’s laugh scares the shit outta me. Wtf was that???