As a retired Trauma nurse, there is a thing called "mechanism of injury". What she described as occurring to her would have resulted in such damage, that she would have required emergency care. Johnny wears large bulky rings, even open-handed slaps would have severely bruised and lacerated her face, if not fractured bones. The repeated choking described would have left hand and fingerprint bruises on the neck. I know, I've seen them on DV victims all too often.
Not just that, each time she said " he punched the wall"... etc every1 shd have declared JD wins the case cause all her testimony would have resulted in him being injured badly or even dead! Remember the constant vomiting even in his sleep also? Then he could have choked and died... facts and logic support that she needs help
At last somebody who understands what abuse is. I am a survivor and I tell she is not a victim of nothing. She drove him crazy and that's why he used to go to hide in the bathroom.
Imagine being a victim of abuse and having to sit and listen to your abuser lie about you in this way. It's a continuation of the abuse. This is so vile.
I have been watching this trial in pure horror. I survived intense DV and DA in my childhood home and my first serious partner was controlling and ended up being abusive, forcing me into homelessness while giving the narrative i tried to hurt him to diminish my support net....this is just all so awful. I know what the lying looks like....I know what real abusers do....this is just so awful for Jonny. Knowing how he grew up, my heart continues to bleed for him and this traumatizing experience.
As a victim of Dv an too scared to call the police. Once i left i had to put a private application for dvo. He basically mimics my application. Imagine abuser saying she sexually abused me by waking him up with a head job and having my way with him 😳.
Exactly! She is just a southern bell who broke horses as a child, and worked her way to Hollywood! An older man “groomed” her, and she’s been nothing but wonderful while he was punching and beating her! Kicking her with boots on (no pics?), and he always wears clunky rings (her words), yet there were no cuts on her face from them after he’d punched her over and over? Come on! She’d taken pics of him sleeping, but never took pics of herself? (Except a few where she looks hungover and like she maybe bit her own lip?)
It just occurred to me... when he was angry and slamming the cupboards and clearly drunk, she was right there, unafraid, in his face, annoying him, asking him questions, recording him. CLEARLY not the behavior of someone who is terrified for their lives. From all the audio and video we've seen, she's been aggressive and trying to keep him around while they're angry. If angry, she should be AFRAID and want to run, not KEEP HIM AROUND if she's terrified of what he might do. Meanwhile Johnny repeatedly shows that all he wants to do when angry is leave the situation! I'm sorry, I think she is spewing COMPLETE BS. I really hope nothing like this ever happened to her, but I am not seeing ANYTHING to suggest it did. PLEASEEE Win Team Johnny!
At the very least, I’m seeing more people talk about this and realizing that it was unfair that his side wasn’t listen to at the time. I’ve also seen more people open up about their own past experiences, including men. This is why it was so problematic that people started saying “believe all women” during the height of the metoo movement; I’m not sure why some people started using that as opposed to “believe all victims” as it clearly shows gender bias and assumes all victims are women.
Right?! Also, in the recording where JD says “don’t tell me what it feels like to be punched!” Her response was something to the effect of yeah, yeah, you’ve been around a long time and been in your share of fights. If she had been hit even once, her response would be something like yes I do know what it’s like because you hit me! I feel like this is such an important recording and no one is talking about it
I've had a two-day migraine because I wanted to watch her take the stand, but couldn't handle watching her lie like that. Brought back so many memories of my abuser's lies rolling off his tongue like he'd had a week to prepare for whatever I had to say.
I can absolutely see how you would feel that way. Please know that in the court of public opinion The Nameless One is not being believed. You are strong, you are important and you are worthy.
Rewatching the whole trial because people still insisting that the verdict was wrong and realizing now that Johnny's case wasn't what decided everything. Amber and her lawyers really shot themselves in the foot because I was completely buying into the mutually toxic narrative until Amber's side started their case. It was bad with doctor Hughs and it only got worse and worse
And after being sexually assaulted and beaten up, Amber walks around the house taking photo's of the damage to the property..... and NOT of her injuries?..... I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!
to be fair the pics were from mainly Ben king but Emily noted something I would have been maybe too dumb to think about... if she's walking around bleeding WHY no blood smears? ?!!! just drips... which makes sense if a finger got lobbed off
Im a film editor and can SEE in the photos of Amber's face, exactly where elements were added TO The photo in editing and the feathering around the layer including that the added elements have a different resolution than the original untouched parts of the photo, for instance the "bruising around the eye and what she intends to appear as bruising discoloration at the top of her nose bridge". These are not the same resolution but are blurred likely gausian, and can be seen if you load these pix into Photoshop. this is why JDs team will NEVER see the metadata from Amber's photos, they would confirm editing and dates/times conflicting with her "allegations'
Not to mention the audio recording Amber took from that night which completely disproves literally everything she claimed. Did Emily comment on that? It has Jerry Judge/Dr. Kipper/Nurse Debbie in the recording, so I'm not sure if they're allowed to play it in court.
P.S. ALSO INSANE - the one time she called the police on Johnny for domestic abuse, the police came and found her totally fine- BUT ALL OF THESE BLOODBATHS that she is describing she never called the police for!?!?!? I CANT I CANT I CANT
I don’t know which part makes me the most mad… that she ruined a man’s life just because she thought she could, that she basically spat in the face of every real abuse victim, or that she thinks we are all incredibly fucking stupid. This story is impossible to believe, I’m sorry.
The part where she says Johnny hit record on her phone is outrageous. That recording was by her, she is so sneaky she left her phone recording everyone downstairs After he had gone to the hospital. She just had to know what they were saying about her. And you can hear that recording. Kipper, Lloyd, Judge, & King looking for his finger, saying she Has To Go, give her meds, She Did This, How to deal with her etc... She just had to know what they were saying about her! Her lies are astonishing and her blaming him is diabolical. She should be in jail for doing this to him.
She didn’t ruin his life. Oh, she tried. She tried so very hard to, but Johnny came out of this knowing the world loves him. She completely failed to ruin his life and ended up ruining her own life and ‘career’ (such as it was) in her process. There’s a nice bit of poetic justice in that. She tried to humiliate him by having all this out in the open, knowing he is a very private person. She ended up showing the whole world instead what a manipulative, conniving piece of work she is.
The worst assault of her life that she’s “emotionally crying” over and then instantly stops in less than a second and sits there looking bored?!!! How can anyone believe this?
There is a kind of ‘reduced emotional affect’ thing going on with her. Now, as Malcolm Gladwell described in ‘Talking to Strangers’, it is very difficult to actually use someone’s expressions - or incongruence thereof - to prove their intent, as science found almost a third of the population is ‘incongruent’ in their expressions. Simply stated: the majority emotes in a way that resembles the cultural clichés we know from a show like ‘Friends’. But there’s also a significant group where the inside (thoughts) don’t match with our expectations of the outside (expressions). It will certainly be interesting to see how a jury interprets her exceedingly strange stories. But if someone has significant drugs and alcohol use, or serious psychological problems, the face can go kind of ‘neutral’, which is what I’m constantly observing with her. Any emotion she shows is consciously put there, made to resemble what she expects someone in that situation to look like. Besides all the wild proof and testimonies it’s been this part of her behavior that has intrigued me since the start of the trial. Having listened to the leaked audio from the ‘finger incident’ (which has been ruled inadmissible I believe), it was most telling that the physician that was trying to help them in their house can be heard talking to his aid/nurse, discussing how they can calm her down because she keeps stomping through the house as they search for the finger. Then he goes (paraphrasing): ‘she normally takes x-amount of relaxant in these situations, but I’m okay with giving her more if need be’. Which is telling.
@@larsickenroth7169 but the the sniffling without sounds of secretions or tears (or even a nose getting red), seems suspicious. The audio from the day of the alleged SA is on Incredibly Average UA-cam channel and is insane! He also proves that Amber's "witness" who ran to her side while in LA, was actually in NYC and grabbed screenshots before the location tags of the witness' post were deleted or removed altogether. I wanted to believe AH, but those vids from 2 years ago made me v skeptical. She also stated that there was no SA prior to the recent bad press headlines. So bad PR made her remember the severe SA and DV episodes not mentioned previously? This is v disheartening.
@@larsickenroth7169 Seroquel is an anti-psychotic, just in case you were wondering, not really a "relaxant" per say, but for many people it can be tranquilizing. Normally, I would agree with you about incongruent expressions, which are common in the situations you described and even more so in uptight, rich circles where showing intense emotion (of any kind, really) is STRONGLY frowned upon (although, rage seems to slip through rather often, lol). But Amber's nose was dry. It stayed the same color as the rest of her face. Her cheeks never flushed. Her eyes never reddened. Her voice never truly broke, but it sounded like she was trying very hard to *force* it to break. I am absolutely fascinated and equally, creeped the hell out by her body language. I have never seen nor heard such a strange testimony in my life.
The two on the left definitely aren’t American plugs. Possibly they had multiple different types since they rented out the place from people all over the world? Be well ✌️
Rewatching and I've been saying this to myself! How convinient when ppl are around she doesn't name drop anyone except Jerry. Because that means there's no one to ask if they back up her version. So irritating and disrespectful using a dead person like that.
Her entire testimony disgusts me. But at the part where she claims that he began to sexually assault her with the bottle it made me feel sick. And furious with her . I don't believe a word she is saying and the fact that she can sit up there and lie like that about another human being is horrific. Having lived through a marriage that was one long nightmare and having felt true fear for my life and having had black eyes and severe pain too many times to count at the hands of my ex seeing her lie truly makes me feel physically ill. Watching JD's expression during this is telling. He looks sickened himself and not because he's guilty. She is spitting in the faces of every single real victim and is loving every minute of her most watched "scene" ever. Ugh, I just can't. I hope that she never knows how it feels to truly be a victim because I wouldn't wish that on anyone. But she does deserve some serious karma. And life has a way of making that happen . God help her if it does.
I am truly sorry that you were a victim! I fortunately never have been but I felt AH recounts of all abuse to be extremely exaggerated and twisted... statements like I kept thinking I hope the bottle isn't broken is very much what clinched my opinion as to her story being false and the photos that show minor injuries that were either self inflicted or she could very well have obtained while Johnny had to try and restrain her in order to protect himself. This AH is one psycho who I feel set Johnny up, starting with secretly taping and filing TRO and I believe if Johnny had fought that TRO back then this case would have happened way back when but since he just prayed she would just go away, she just waited to use her false so called evidence in attempt to promote her career while dragging JD down.... it has always been about the money and not love!! Justice for Johnny!!!
The thing that triggered me was not her describing the SA, its her saying that the next day she kind of didnt think about, just walked downstairs to talk to him. Thats when I knew shes lying.
For me its all the "I don't remember"s like she doesn't remember how that night ended or how she got off the counter top... In my experience that just cannot be true.
@@vrknyght8207 like watching herself beating her husband up? She just switched the roles and is trying to tell how it would feel like. Maybe she can tell these horrible stories with very odd details because she's done them already to others.
@@kanelikainalo I am a kinetic learner, so describing these things with how they felt is important to me. She seemed to describe seeing it much more...and her visual descriptions were weird.
I am a retired professional Nurse and S/Worker, ( working with M.H. Addictions and disability amoungst other issues) and as someone who is also drug dependent on Opiates due to severe pain-I can assure you that if u are entering withdrawals you can barely put ur clothes on-certainly there is no energy to " attack" physically.On the rare occasions I have needed my meds early I have even had to dress approx 3 hours before elaving as I knew I would be to frail and weak to get dressed and prepare myself to get to my Chemist /Phramacy.!
I only have my own experience here, but my ex-gf and I babysat her brother for 2 weeks when he was detoxing off Roxycodone, and he was markedly more irritable than usual. We were pretty on edge the whole time, because he was super erratic and definitely had enough energy to get violent if it came to it. (Luckily, it never did.) I think different bodies react differently - he was a big dude, 6'4" and 200+ pounds. I'm not saying this is the case with Johnny, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Ruth/ same for me. I had absolutely no energy or strength to do anything. However, I was super edgy and agitated, there was just no way I could have done anything about it ( in response to the first comment also)
@@abasslinelow Yeah.. I can’t say Johnny did the things Amber said, because there hasn’t been enough evidence to say that for sure - however I’ve seen people in severe withdrawal be very physical, everyone is different.
As an past addict myself I know how unlikely it is to go from 'nodding out' to full of energy and violent. Couldn't hold onto a glass of wine to giving a brutal attack? Unlikely at best..
@@abasslinelow yes u would def be more irritable because it feels like hell, but ( and also I can't speak for everyone) you feel so poorly u just struggle to move/get dressed etc...and given she has her own drug issues and a family with drug issues her " not knowing" how he would feel/react etc is total B.S. such things make u Hypervigilant-she even describes being ultra aware and is clearly not stupid so u kinda have to wonder if she hoped he would be so ill/distressed that he WOULD hit her and give her the "evidence" she needed. Also re the Pics of lines of Coke etc...GOD the neatest Addict I ever saw! So clearly set up and proves nothing other than he has a nice box and she can leave out lines of a white powder and photo the same!!!
I have worked in trauma for 38 years. There is no way from her narrative that she would not have massive injuries. Being punched multiple times, glass cutting her feet, the bottle incident, she would have massive bruising, lacerations, especially if he had his rings on, fractured facial bones, and at least bruising and possibly lacerations from the blunt trauma to her v. Also Johnny would also have bruising and possibly abrasions on his knuckles from striking her and the wall. I hope they have a medical professional discuss and show pictures of what injuries would look like if a person was abused like she claimed. Also they could discuss his finger. He didn't cut it off and it did not happen hoe he told the physicians. They can tell blunt trauma from penetrating trauma from the glass. Is she wolverine and heals spontaneously? Come on people, use your heads. She makes a mockery of the true victims of abuse.
The way she walks away from from all the horible incidents she claims to have gone through without any visible marks sounds like a protagonist in a movie- like violence is just a plot point with no real-world consequences.
even if she hadn’t sought medical care for the sexual assault immediately afterwards (which is a ridiculous thought, if it happened she would have *had* to or else she probably could have died from internal injuries, hemorrhaging etc) she would have had noticeable damage, possibly been rendered infertile. am i supposed to believe she’s never gone to an obgyn?? or if she did they just hadn’t noticed the extensive damage that would have been left behind?? anyway you look at it, it’s not possible to have zero medical records to back up her claims of the sexual assault, let alone all the brutal beatings she supposedly endured.
As someone who has PTSD from DV and attempted murder, her testimony is so triggering. I can’t help noticing the difference in her composure and relating it to my experience on the stand. I know everyone reacts to trauma differently but I couldn’t look anywhere but at the attorney questioning me. I couldn’t imagine looking directly at the jury, at the defendant, around the court room performing for everyone while I relived that trauma.
Whenever I retold my story, I would start staring off into space as I relived it. I can't imagine being so focused and engaged in the moment while talking about a memory that threatens to drag you back. I say that as someone with diagnosed PTSD.
These are not *memories*. This is a performance. I've seen a lot of testimony of horrific assaults that aren't half this dramatic. There are some common threads - they tend to be stoic, dissociate almost? Like they are talking about someone else. I've never seen one stare at the jury like this either. They never snap in/out of emotions in seconds or even minutes. When they do cry, it's like a stream that starts, but none of this huffing and puffing. That's the most common things I see. I will NOT say there is a right or wrong reaction to recounting abuse. Everyone is different. I am comfortable saying after all the testimony has come out that Amber, however, is absolutely not recounting abuse committed against her. I'm sorry. I'm confident with that. She may believe she is a victim in her mind. She may have received verbal abuse. But she was not abused physically or sexually by this man.
@@meems4378 For Sure!!! I couldn’t possibly look at the jury when it was me. (Also a survivor with PTSD here!) I understand we all process trauma differently, but once I started to testify, and the tears began from the reliving of the events, I personally couldn’t recover at all! They had to allow for me to have breaks just to get it together again! No way could I just quit the crying once it began! That and while reliving the trauma-I had to do my best to spit it all out as fast as possible, so I didn’t have to “sit” in the memory any longer than necessary!
I... just... really want SOMEONE to ask Ms Heard, "Do you understand that your testimony is given under oath and any statement that is not given truthfully will be considered perjury?" and have her response on record.
The problem with that is they have to KNOWINGLY and INTENTIONALLY lie. People with BPD often lie in a misguided attempt to stave off their terror of rejection or abandonment, and are sometimes capable of convincing themselves of their own lies. I think the most glaring instance of this was with Isaac Baruch. Taking his testimony at face value, he said Amber stuck her face out for him to inspect like she believed there was some injury to see when there simply wasn't. I wouldn't be surprised if AH genuinely believes every single word that is coming out of her mouth.
@@ljamber8972 Well, I mean, it'd have been smart of the defense to ask her because it would preempt the narrative that she's feeling free to speak slander and manipulation because *they* bring is up, would come across as "See, look. We have nothing to hide. These words are spoken intentionally truthfully." If the prosecution (erm, plaintiff's counsel because it's not criminal trial?) brings it up, it's a bad look. The only reason I could imagine not having your witness explicitly reiterate that they're telling the truth when there are allegations that your client is a gaslighter is if your client may not be telling the truth and you're leaving a window for some kind of deniability. My opinion, of course. I entirely know I'm biased because of my personal experiences.
I’m a DV survivor and I tell you when I was emotional speaking to my therapist I was not focused on the therapist. I was staring off into space reliving the abuse as I talked about it. This looks more like a performance and a bad one at that. I just have a hard time buying today’s testimonial.
I didn’t experience my abuse from a partner, but since my abuse I can’t look many people in the eye at all. Reliving and retelling my story I don’t even know what I’m looking at, my eyes will unfocus and I have to snap myself out of it. I’m definitely not looking at anyone while talking about it, much less looking a bunch of stranger people in the eyes.
@Anni Spurlock Yes, and it’s while staring into space is when you see and feel it, not when you’re describing it to a roomful of people while looking at all of them. She looks from end to end as well, so she’s looking from jury member to jury member. That’s just odd to me.
She said he had his knee on her back pinning her down but at the same time she was looking at his face thinking about his glasses still being on. Unless her neck can turn all the way around like the satan spawn she is, that’s not even possible. She’s such a liar, I hope to god the jury sees that.
So after rewatching Ambers testimony, I noticed that she’s treating this like a stage show. Camille perfectly objects when Amber is about to go into the flow and (attempt) to cry. Amber then stops, resets and look at the judge for guidance and direction, as if the judge is a director of the play. Then she gets the go ahead and starts off right where she was. It’s jarring.
Rewatching too. I noticed when she describes people being around, she doesn't name drop anyone except Jerry Judge the body guard that passed away. No one to ask to back her up. How convinient.
I'm also a retired medic, and that is NOT a broken nose. I'm extremely sceptical that that's even blood on her lip. There is no swelling anywhere on this woman. I've seen assault victims many times and that isn't what bruises look like 2 days later. They have a yellow-green hue when healing. Her lip especially would be noticeably swelled, it's not. She's taken charcoal or something and applied it to the bridge of her nose and under her eyes.
I do gore makeup for costumes around Halloween time every year, and bruises are an absolute art that most beginner makeup artists just don’t understand. The most authentic bruise I’ve ever done took me about a half hour of blending reds, purples, blacks, yellows, and greens. That said, the best makeup artist in the world can’t fake swelling without prosthetics, and I have yet to see anything from the photos that shows swelling. Those photos have always looked to me like an amateur makeup artist faking a bruise, who doesn’t understand what a bruise actually is, and how they work.
I’m convinced the raw bit of lip was from the severe chapping and peeling that Accutane frequently causes. It was referenced in her medication list and Kate James testified she regularly picked up that med for her.
Technically we are watching people lie under oath at court. One of them is lying and that's fascinating. Lying under oath in court is a crime but we are millions watching it happen.
I'm more and more convinced she has some deeper psych issues that makes her believe 90% of this happened, and the rest she adds because she fears we wouldn't believe her. Which of course is just the opposite. I wish the jury could sentence them both to get help: her for her abandonment issues, him to be sure he stays clean.
I hope they do move for penalty of perjury, I truly do. If she is grossly exaggerating her testimony, it needs to show the world consequences. When you raise your right hand, it’s for a reason.
@@annabees According to Johnny , Amber doesn’t have a good sense of what happened even immediately after it’s happened . An example is her saying she was hitting, not punching him. This is hard to understand if you don’t know someone like this, but if you know, you know. I do believe that she believes some of what she’s saying. Like the playful nudge in the bottom , on the plane, becomes a kick. However , body language experts reveal that she shows a lot of deception, so I do think she knows some of it is out and out lies.
having experienced all of the same injuries she's claiming to have had, and sustaining bruising in a number of different locations, I would say that my broken nose and black eyes healed the slowest of all. and the bruising actually spreads out and becomes more visible over time. she would AT LEAST have yellowing left over. and the hair thing.... she said is was bleeding and "pus-sy". in my experience, it's not that easy to have your freaking Scalp Torn. I've been dragged by my hair, and what I ended up with was quarter sized bald spots where the hair had torn out. no torn scalp. just swelling and tenderness at the location. I feel personally offended.... I've experienced all of this, and if I wasn't already convinced that she was full of shit, her pictures indicate that unequivocally.
I am so sorry you experienced that. You're incredibly strong for sharing and pointing out this hypochondriac. This is infuriating! She's trying to ruin lives because her pride is hurt
Her reports have her being" punched in the face repeatedly, so many times I lost count" atleast 6 different occasions before the wedding as well as being flung across the room, thrown against the wall, and her throat grabbed every single recount. New details everytime she's asked about it. I've seen 2 pictures where she had injuries. The arm bruise where u can see half her face, no marks, and the was when she does looked punched but I've heard it was her sister that did that. Even witnesses to seeing them acting it out
@Jamie Gallea..exactly how it was for me aswell. Patch of missing hair is no joke and very painful. When grabbed aggressively on the arms..those are black and blue finger prints bruising. Shoe print bruises from stomping. Choking/strangling also finger print makes. It hurts insanely bad and the fear of death when we can't escape the ABr, it stays with us always. Such lack of compassion
No tears, no snot, no redness. Nothing. If you were really crying you'd be a dripping, sniffing, red mess. As someone who has been through abuse, hearing someone talk about their own trauma can make you sympathise and feel it at least a little. When they tear up, you can tear up because you relate to their experience. There isn't a single shred of that here. Her story didn't evoke even a tiny. bit of sentiment for me. Nothing. What I ended up thinking is just how fucking twisted someone has to be to exaggerate or make it up just to continue with a lie you've already committed to, in order to tear down the life of a man who no longer wanted you. THAT is deeply disturbing.
DV survivors don’t deserve her being up their making a mockery of their pain. I’m appalled watching her act her way through this. If you haven’t suffered abuse you will never know the slap in the face she is handing out to every victim
So well said. She is so grossly unbelievable in her shockingly over the top dramatic narrative that is so inconsistent with true victim presentation. She is so overtly unbelievable that ii promotes the damaging cultural perception of victims as unbelievable. It also sends a false perception to true victims that their experience must be wildly graphic and horrific to ‘ count ‘ as abuse, (a discounting tactic used by perpetrators as well). She has done great harm and disservice to victims in this display of embellished, inconsistent testimony in the absence of solid supporting evidence
Do you know how many people cannot , I mean CANNOT out of difficulty speak about to abuse to lawyers, cops, doctors, etc.... That they never seek justice of that in a courtroom and here, you have this liar just storytelling. Those that experience abuse remember very specific details. This amber is insane
And tacking on rape and sexual assault....Jesus, she must have been ecstatic when she realized she was getting a chance to victimize him all over again.
She had a smile on her face, in her eyes several times. This is so bad of Acting. She is talking too fast, her phrasing is off. I have psdt and my child Was a victim of sexual abuse. This makes me crazy for all the victims in the future. I hate to judge, but this is off. How many times did she practice this? In the pictures there were not that much glass and bottles on the floor and room. She would have blood all over her and cuts, and would need ER help . Broken bones in face, hands (many in both to hurt in fights) She is done...now her voice in normal. No, no, no. My opinion. He would not Have been able to write all that is pictured with his finger and been able to Be reattached. Too much memory with sleeping pills and sedative they gave her, unless she is used to drugs being in her system, but then they are fuzzy and run together. Trauma takes you to shock and your memory is not this consistent. It sometimes takes years to remember . In my experience. It seems like she is following a script. And her lawyer. Oh my gosh, this is so off. In this your body does not think of your pain, it is screaming at you. You don't think of the Abuser's pain.. no more....
thats also why she kept driving home how his physical abuse didnt hurt her. It was a subtle thing to make sure he knew she didnt think he was much of a man. not something the normal person is gonna pick up on
So, Amber had this weird thing where she kept saying "but it didn't hurt" when describing her alleged assaults by JD, which came up a few times. I thought that she was trying to explain how come she didn't have visible marks, like how he was viciously assaulting her without actually marking her. But last night I was rewatching the JD testimony of how he lost the end of his finger and he explained that he initially didn't notice because "it didn't hurt" and then his finger suggenly felt hot, and damp and he looked down and saw his bone because the end of his finger was gone. I think Amber might be a cyborg that doesn't understand human reactions. She knows what really happened with JDs finger so she knows that is a real reaction. She did not realise that reactions to blunt force (what she was describing) are different to injuries caused by sharp objects... ergo, she thinks that saying "it didn't hurt" is the best way to convey severe trauma. Opinions on my brand new consiracy theory?
Right on! She would have serious injuries here and yet we don’t have any testimony or pictures or doctor visit? Have to be medical records from Australia. Didn’t she get bandaged up? Stitches? How could she even walk after the bottle ect….?
@@jasonstrulowitz5670 - Agreed, and always saw on the floor were blood drips which are consistent with Depp’s recounting the events of that time. Heard said multiple times how the floor was so wet with all the bottles w/ liquor that Depp was throwing and that she was slipping all over around the broken glass and her feet were “sliced-up bad,” yet we see no blood smears or any partial prints of any feet. There’s just so much like that that doesn’t fit.
As I child I broke a window banging on it. Terrified I looked at the broken glass on the ground. I was in trouble. I saw a red dot the size of a quarter on the ground and didn't know what it was and then looked at my hand. Gash on my hand lots of blood. THEN it started to hurt. Took 7 stitches.
here is the sequence of events she describes for the australia incident, transcribed as im listening to her: - he takes 8-10 MDMA pills, allegedly - JD calls attorney about post-nup, fires her - calls his agent, screaming incoherently - she tries to calm him down, alleges drug use - goes upstairs, comes back down in nightgown - can't describe interaction, he throws things, screams - she is up against the wall, head is slammed - she pushes him off - he drinks as a show of force (?), then drinks from two bottles - has her by the neck, chokes her - shoves him hard, he shoves back - "at some point" they struggle, he flings her across the room - she lands on the ping-pong table, he is on top of her, whacking her in the face - he holds up a bottle, taunts her, she takes it and smashes it on the "white tile" floor - quote: "that really set him off" - backhanded or "hit normally", she falls on the floor - he throws *another* bottle, it misses her - "at some point" he has a broken bottle up against her face - she doesn't remember throwing anything in his direction - he flails her, throws her around by the nightgown - glass is on the floor - he throws even more bottles and cans, "one after the other" - he blocks her exit from the bar - she freezes, then moves towards the exit - her feet slip on the tile, she is slammed on the counter top and wall - he punches the wall - rips off her nightgown - she slips on the glass around her feet - she is up against the wall again, more taunts, more screaming, more wall-punching - she steps back (she is against the wall), his "energy" shifts to the phone - he screams at the top of his lungs and bashes the phone against the wall, over and over - phone is smashed to little pieces - he is on top of her again, on the countertop, has her by the neck again - now she doesn't see him anymore (metaphorically) - she tries to get through to him (but can't) - head bashing against the bar again, can't breathe, chocked, feet slipping on the glass - doesn't know what happened next (as repeated several times) - next thing she remembers she is 'bent over backwards' on the bar - she thought he was punching her again, but feels pressure (in vagina) - is penetrated with yet another bottle - she tries to be very still, looks around the room - looks at the broken bottles and glass - can't feel pain but hopes the bottle 'inside her' is not broken - doesn't know how that ended, or how she got off the countertop - she is now in the bathroom, retching, loses control of bladder - blood on the floor (of bathroom) - doesn't know how the night ended, but remembers him begging her not to leave - she takes two sleeping pills - falls asleep, wakes up late morning - goes downstairs to find him, she is barricaded in a room (?), can't sleep, goes to find him again (???) - late morning he is still awake since previous night (at length) - more verbal arguing - she makes him coffee and calls help (for *his* finger!!!1) - security and medical help arrives, nurse tries to sedate her but she recieves no further help (???) (often repeats she doesn't know, doesn't remember, isn't sure, ed simile..) (i stopped at day 2 but her story continues with the same barely coherent narrative) this is all completely baffling to me. her story makes no sense at all--- and i left out a LOT of screaming, insults, taunts --- as i tried to focus no the physical stuff. she should be in hospital if not dead, however that series of events might've played out. i can't get myself to believe her i'm sorry......... not with a story like this. nothing makes any sense. four or five times i counted during this deposition she couldn't remember feeling pain after a wound. why ?? and, i mean, how many bottles were involved in that fight??? she said a whole lot without saying anything at all... baffling testimony. BAFFLING...
Yeah, and NO EVIDENCE. Medical records, pictures? Where's the alleged recording? The pictures we saw don't have near the level of devastation/injury/vandalism she describes here.
What you wrote out in black a white makes it clear if that happened a person would either be dead or in a hospital bed. I know for a fact she was walking about fine in the morning in high heels. I heard the audio. She’s clomping about. She’s crying about being sorry that she didn’t mean to hurt him. His security are trying to placate her and get rid of her and she’s refusing to leave Johnny because he “needs her” and she “loves him”. She also says “I did all this?” When she sees the damage in the room. She also mentions all the drugs she took. At least 4. She’s given many, many versions of what happened in Australia and they get more and more elaborate and over the top. She gives at least 5 different versions of what happened to his finger. When asked outright in her deposition if she cut his finger off she said in an over the top manner “that’s a ridiculous accusation!” I see she didn’t do that this time round. Amber heard is the most brazen and shameless liar I’ve seen in a court room and I’m a dedicated trial watcher and I’ve never seen anything like this. Jodi arias came close but she’s a different kind of psychopath.
I think the same way. Im a woman...if a dude was shoving a bottle up my vaJJ it would hurt!!! When asked about the pain she said she wasn't thinking about the pain. I was SAY WHAT⁉️⁉️⁉️ NO EFFING WAY I COULDNT FEEL TH E PAIN OR NOT THINK ABOUT IT. I would have gone to the nearest Hospital, ER. And I would think the glass on the floor would have cut her feet up!!! UGH Shes wicked & manipulative
@@TuTuFox I don't know how it is in such a case, But if you have a great shock it is possible to not feel any pain. I had a Car Accident when i was 8years old, i had several bones broken, wounds on Arms and Head. Later i was told i was fully awake when the Ambulance came i was told that i even could talk normaly with them without screaming or what so ever. My Brain simply shut off because the Pain was to much but in my case here is the catch i lost all Memorys of that, i can Clearly remember what day it was and why i didnt pay attention to the Cars (even after nearly 25years)... the next thing i remember is that i was in a Hospital the doctors had to put me in an artificial Coma (sry in German it would be künstliches Koma) because the Pain would have been to much after the shock was gone. So i could believe her that she didnt feel pain in that situation (as i said, i have no expierience wiith sexual assults) but she didnt say anything about the next Day when the potential shock should have been over.
I am even more convinced that Johnny is innocent after hearing Amber's testimony. He wanted to clear his name so badly he subjected himself to sitting there listening to lie after lie, the next one more heinous than the last. I have a lot of respect for him. I don't know if I would have been able to just sit there and contain myself.
Notice how she goes out of her way to correct herself earlier and says “there was only one broken window”… and later she says “this is just one of the broken windows” She can’t keep her story straight
Around the 3:00:00 mark, when she talks about the "broken" bed, a channel called Law & Lumber did a fantastic video explaining how her story is impossible. He even demonstrated with a similar piece of wood how kicking, stomping, or hammering wouldn't take a splinter of wood like that--it would just dent it first. Only a sharp knife prying at the wood could have made it split. So, how that bed was damaged is a clear lie from Ms Heard
There is absolutely no way a boot will break a solid wood bed. The fact she left the knife on the bed I mean it couldn’t be more evident a knife did that damage. You can kick and stamp all you want you aren’t going to be able to splinter the wood.
The thing that really gets me is that when she gets to the worst parts, she remains incredibly composed and consistent. And, while she’s describing these parts, Johnny is rocking back and forth. It clearly upsets him more than it upsets her.
I can believe JD was controlling at times and toxic while in the throes of addiction, but I cannot believe that he was brutally assaulting AH so regularly and so horrifically and she only has photos of a couple bruises. This testimony feels like it’s coming from a high school theater class during improv day.
Agreed, and even then I only believe 80% of what she says when she talks about jealousy (I feel like she's lying when she starts acting like she's trying to reach a word count), and even THEN if she was cheating (allegedly) the paranoia would make some amount of sense lol.
@@basketballman1854 I never fell for this stuff. My mother is a violent narc bpd person, so I have always known women can lie and fake it. I say ' listen to all people" but I don't immediately "believe all people" until i hear evidence or both sides.
I'm thoroughly confused.... The violence she's describing in the bar area - how was she not covered head to toe with bruises, how was there no chafing from fabric being ripped off, how were her feet not cut up by all the glass, how was his dominant hand not thoroughly busted up from punching the wall... I'm just having a really hard time reconciling what she's describing with the photos and reports from other witnesses immediately afterwards.
Thank u! I wrote a similar comment... was wondering why no one else was asking this! Everything she said would have injured JD severly or killed him! From punching walls to the kind of violence n drug n alchohol abuse she alleges... it's crazy! Not possible...he woulda died in his sleep.
The only way I can reconcile her account with all the other testimony/evidence is to assume she was the one on drugs and most of what she described was hallucinations. But even with that assumption I still have a hard time believing that she is not knowingly lying.
Yeah the bar area attack story is so bizarre. She'd be a bloody pulp afterwards if it were true, and a horribly swollen bloody pulp in the days that followed. What's even more bizarre than that story is how quickly her affect changes while telling it. She goes from sobbing to calmly recounting another story a minute later. What an absolute freak of nature she is.
And she said she was completely nude and had been on the floor on top of glass so where are the cuts she would’ve sustained on her body if your naked being thrown on top of or dragged on a floor full of glass. There’s just so many questions?! The the fact she keeps mentioning how after each attack she was so worried about Johnny and his well being?! I’m sorry but when my kids father would beat me up I never wondered or cared how he felt. I was scared and only concerned for myself. I wanted to avoid him as much as possible. I treaded lightly around him when he was around. It’s so frustrating hearing or testimony knowing she is really stretching the truth. I’m sure he was no angel but I highly doubt he was just wailing on her like she claims for the most nonsense or reasons. She clearly wanted to control and use him and she couldn’t stand him or his addictions so that disgusted her and frustrated her so she took those frustrations out on him. He probably kept relapsing as a result of a way to cope with being around her. She didn’t leave because she loved the money and attention of fame. Not because she was so in love with him. This girl needs serious help and I mean that in all sincereity not to be a smart ass.
I absolutely lost it when Elaine DREW on that picture and was like "What, if any, bruising do you see in this circle here?" oh my gosh. Girl, if you were brutally assaulted in the ways that you claimed, there'd be no way you can HIDE subsequent injuries, let alone need your lawyer to circle the area you were supposed to have bruising!
I know this is a really old comment but I wanted to add all we need to prove your comment is to look at Rihannas pictures after Chris brown abused her. She was black and blue and very swollen. No one would have needed to circle pictures of her face after the violence she suffered through.
My God. As a women and an empathetic person who has gone through narcissistic as well as sexual abuse and previously married to addicts, I want to give her the benefit of the doubt. But no. no. no. no. I am disgusted and repulsed by this womens testimony. I no doubt believe this was a toxic relationship and dealing with Johnny's addiction was hell. But her accusations of abuse/ sexual abuse....no way. There's no F*kng way. I find myself repulsed and enraged.
I am sorry for your ordeal and the anchor those memories bring. And someone like her can use this thing as some opportunistic tool while real victims have to deal with this for the rest of your life. And future. And I am disgusted with her too for your sake for other victims sake.... She is so vulgar to me
The way she just stops crying is so strange to me. When I'm talking about my trauma and start crying, I can't even get my words out for a while bc of the lump in my throat.
I definitely have second hand embarrassment from this testimony. She sounds like a teenager lying through her teeth. There is no way she was hit by a grown man as much as she says and has no visible injuries at all. And her so called bruises look like filler bruises/Botox. Very mild and no broken skin or swelling.
I love how she "remembers" literally every single detail of what he allegedly did to her but she conveiently "doesn't remember" if she may or may not have possibly or perhaps not possibly thrown a bottle at him. Selective memory much?
Or the order in which she was attacked/ with or without the tip of JDs finger attached. You’d think you’d remember if the guy attacking u had a profusely bleeding digit
So the only bodyguard to ever notice her injuries is Jerry Judge, who has since passed away and can't contradict her story.... How convienient for her. I am disgusted
Plus in the austrailia recording you hear him saying that she has got scratches on her left arm that in his opinion looked self inflicted and he doesnt mention any other injury at all
As a victim of DV, I am extremely triggered by this whole trial. The fact that JD has to write things out , leave notes all because he is invalidated, spoken over…speaks incredible volumes! She exhibits so much “black and white thinking” it’s undisputed. His covering up, apologizing constantly, man….I could go on and on… did he exhibit what’s called “reactive abuse”, absolutely!! But I am also extremely impressed with his abilities in staying so calm with her and placating as much as he did!!!! I, on the other hand….wasn’t always as calm in my experience. That type of insidious abuse LITERALLY drives you to “crazy”…it absolutely changes you as well and you’re never the same afterwards… Once your eyes are “awakened” to such cruel and manipulative personalities. You can’t unsee it & you recognize that snake if it ever comes near you ever again….. I am all for JD…..I stand with him, and extremely proud of him! 👏👏👏👏
Thank you for speaking out. ❤ I also understand what your saying about being impressed and agree with the idea of reactive abuse. Having grown up a generational hick in the Biblebelt of Ohio, his calm behavior towards an abusive woman makes perfect sense to me. "Men hit things, not women, full stop" and "Men bury their feelings until they can't" are absolutely the "code" of the Southern Gentleman. It's almost ingrained in our DNA, men and women, that these are just "truths".
How could all of these things have happened broken glass no clothes throwing cans. And no actual cuts on her feet ? I cut my feet when I break a glass on the kitchen floor trying to clean it up. No believing her that there were no actual injuries
Also when you are actually abused time slows down and you remember the details. She keeps saying “I don’t know, I don’t remember, I wish I could remember “ that tells me a lot
That's a really good point. In every single "scene" she's detailing, she is always sober. But that wasn't reality. So how is it whenever they had an altercation is ALL the times she happened to be stone cold sober?
I was wondering the same thing! I thought maybe she was saying the slaps didn't hurt because she was drunk or something. But she didn't say that, she just said it didn't hurt.
I know this topic is super heavy but I just loved Emily’s reaction at 1:08:32. “This is a whole lot” because that’s EXACTLY how I was feeling when I watched it! And where are the TEARS girl??!
This feels like we're in the Gone Girl movie or book where Amy describes all this horrible things Nick done in her diary and none of this was true at the end of the day.
I was thinking about how happy and nostalgic she was describing their initial courtship. Talking about how magical it was and how much she loved him - while smiling. Anyone who's been abused and tortured by someone will not smile with fond memories about the relationship. In fact, they would describe those happy times with a broken heart, a devastation and a feeling of grief because of how wrong they were, and how filled with regret they are.
Not defending her at all, but this isn't necessarily true. I can tell stories about the beginning of my relationship with my abuser with a smile on my face. Yes, what came later was devastating and very sad, but the beginning? Still one of the happiest times of my life. When he was sober and before the physical things started, he was an amazing man and we made many wonderful memories. I don't believe AH that she was the victim (or at the very least, not the only one) but painting all behavior as "not how real victims act" is damaging and outright incorrect.
Because she didn’t really love him. She saw he was interested in her so she began to run game.. she wanted to use him for fame and money. Now he really loved her though.
Johnny's face when she's describing the SA is like "are you serious." I don't want to be the ass acting like the victim is lying, but as a woman that has been domestically and sexually assaulted, and having been required to describe everything, I just do not believe her! The way she attempted to describe the SA as if she had no idea what he was doing, while skipping right over the part where she injured him. Her emotions aren't even there. As soon as she stopped describing it her hysteria disappeared. Emotions do not work like that! Or at least our voices!! If she was that hysterical her voice and breathing would be trembling for a while afterward.
Yea as someone who had to testify about my csa there is not immediate snap back to even neutral emotions. It took a little bit. Like you’re able to get there and it doesn’t take forever but it’s how fast she snaps in and out. Although I know that could be just how she understands how her emotions work, from the very little I know of bpd.
its just unbelievable to me that in AU he was carried to the hospital for ONE hurt finger (bad as it was) and this battered and bruised woman who is apparently within an inch of her life is completely ignored by all doctors, nurses, friends ?????? no fractures no broken bones no visible injuries no slashes scratches bruises vaginal bleeding... ???? wtf
In the recording, JD says, "cmon man, I lost a finger.." and she Does Not say ANYTHING about the SA on recording.... youd think she would in response to him.
There is full audio of the immediate aftermath of this event when security and the Doctor’s & nurses arrived, where she is screaming “I didn’t mean to hurt him… I’m sorry… I don’t want to leave… I can’t lose him…”etc, etc. and the doctor is fully saying how she shattered the bone in his finger, and talking about how she needs to go back to LA with security, with someone big enough whom she can’t manipulate. It literally proves all of this wrong. But I’ve heard it can’t be played in court because of third party voices? So frustrating.
Yeah I heard they can't use that audio for that reason too. What really creeped me out was Jerry Judge saying be careful she's always listening, while being recorded by a device hidden by Amber. She's actually terrifying, like some bad movie villan mixed with some single white female energy. Shudders 😬
I agree that it makes her look bad but the audio makes someone else looks very bad the DOCTOR, because he said in the recording that we would lie to the police to cover upp if they investigate . AH lawyers would use that and say he is one of the 'yes-men' and the jury would wonder if the doctor is capable to lie to the police is he also capable to lie to the court? So both sides should be very thankful that the audio isn't getting played in court because it would hurt hem both
I think her lawyers will be able to play the part where he is screaming at her before other people come in, unfortunately. So JD's lawyer's might be able to show her quotes in a redacted transcript or something?
@@victoriaselz9720 i think it cold hurt both sides if they play the audiotape because not only does it make AH look bad but it also makes one of JD's witnesses look bad because the doctor admited on tape that he would be willing to lie to the police to cover it up, the jury might ask themself if he also would be willing to lie in court
The way she recovers so quickly after getting emotional is part of borderline personality disorder. I know because I have BPD. I have these same symptoms. You can be hysterically crying one minute and in the next fine or even laughing like nothing even happened. We also lose time during arguments and fail to recall things we said or how things actually happened. In severe BPD sometimes the person doesn’t even realize they are lying. They simply remember things wrong. However if they do remember they minimalize things they did. Hence her saying I don’t remember if I threw anything. We sometimes use crying to emotionally manipulate people. This is likely why her voice remains steady. She’s acting. Sadly I’ve done it myself. This entire testimony is very consistent with borderline personality disorder. Johnny’s description of her following him around during arguments, getting extremely upset when he left, and begging him not to leave is also very consistent with BPD. These all have to do with fear of abandonment. Her dressing like Johnny is consistent with identity issues and mimicking people. How she says Johnny was either very loving or a monster is consistent with spitting. In my lay opinion, Amber has severe borderline personality disorder.
Exactly I have BPD and I’m not anywhere near being a monster. This kind of severe BPD usually happens when no treatment is sought. We can recover, but these are things you have to treat.
My mom and my sister have it and it is so consistent that it is hard to watch but also satisfying because I feel like saying 'now people believe me." even though no one has a clue what I have been through. kudos to you for actually trying to deal with bpd and having the self-awareness to understand these things and taking accountable. I have not met one person with a personality disorder who has ever gotten help. that is very admirable!!
Love your legal expertise.. I’m a nurse. The bruising to me on her face looks like cosmetic procedures, ie Botox injections because that’s what they appear to do when they hit a blood vessel by accident especially under her right eye area, or forehead area. The hair on the carpet looks like hair that was cut because there are no roots showing attached that it was yanked out of the scalp. Just my thoughts.
I’d love to know Emily’s take on HOW Elaine did this with a straight face.. I understand that she is a lawyer but prior to case after reviewing her photos & matching to her “wild stories”.. why she didn’t think “I cannot do this”, to real survivors. My god.
The assault she is describing would have absolutely required emergency care , she would have been cut up all over her body as well as v@ginal trauma … she would have horrible scars as well especially without medical care
And - anyone who can't see through her lies is either at risk of predation, or is a predator themselves with absolutely zero insight into their own behaviour.
Anyone else notice how she refers specifically to Jerry when talking about security? Convenient since he passed away and can't testify to contradict her
She NEVER knows how it starts.... she NEVER knows how it ends. It's like Johnny is just a rabid time bomb waiting to go off at any moment. It's just not realistic - especially when you've heard the tapes of HER being the aggressor and HIM trying to get away.
As someone raised by a violent mom, you know when and how it starts and ends… you’re right it’s like she has no idea of her own timeline or trying to mix in the abuse to other things
I'm so happy you've pointed out her motions when describing the altercations. She is showing the side of the abuser, I've never described an altercation while physically showing the opposite side. I can only imagine what the jury is thinking while seeing this.
And those house slippers of hers at the couch have no blood on them either. her whole tale is unbelievable. Elaine may have believed her at the beginning, but after seeing these Ben King Photos there is no way an intelligent mind would not question the lack of sliding blood marks, or her walking thru airports without discomfort, or the Kipper nightie tale without Ben King Knowing the finds or photos of it, also there would have been pieces of that phone & his testimony of replacement. A huge pack of lies, lie after lie! She's a piece of work.
I have a BPD parent, and have gone through S/A myself. AH's testimony reeks of the classic untreated-BPD "you left me so i will ruin you". So incredibly familiar to me. I believe JD was not perfect, and he said so himself. But the graphic abuse allegations, in my opinion, are false and a product of BPD/histrionics exaggeration brought about due to feelings of abandonment. I truly feel for JD, I've been on the receiving end of horrible lies (parent was a bit of an actor too), it's the worst feeling. And to have to sit there silently and watch her lie, it's torture.
one of the tapes in evidence shows bright and clear her fear of abandonment. He tells her he'll leave if he feels he is going off the rack and next thing she is bursting into tears, saying she doesn't want him to go, and eventually that it's killing her when he leaves. She sounds sincere. He proceeds into telling her to take her pills. Sounds reasonable. I think both of them were "abusive" (if you can say so because it came from illness (BPD & addiction)) but at least JD tried to leave when of course AH couldn't start to think about it & made things worse pushing him to stay... One of the rare cases where you could almost say "she caused it". At least her illness did. ps: I hope you managed to get off of your parents influence, sounds exhausting.
@@annabees oh, thanks for the extra context, i had missed that one! I see a lot of the dynamics in my family that i see in their relationship, to be honest. My parent was like Amber, in the sense that they'd prefer to escalate than to let you leave. They'd go on and on in circles and we're basically screaming at you rather than having a two-way argument. It's incredibly exhausting. I empathize with JD myself in the sense that i always tried to get away when I was overwhelmed, but wouldn't be able to, and it caused me a lot of trauma and psychological issues that i had to deal with later on.. the whole thing is all too familiar, i just had to comment tbh. And thank you for the concern, I'm safely away from their influence for a few years now, and feeling a lot better 😊
If her hair was ripped out of her scalp WHY tf is there no dried blood on her scalp?? My ex ripped all the hair out of the right side of my head and my scalp was bloody, my hair was completely knotted, my mom had to comb it out in the tub as more ripped out until my right side was completely bald. There was a PILE of LONG hair, knotted hair- not a few short pieces that look like they were cut off. If her hair was pulled out of the scalp it would be long, complete pieces of hair… not small pieces. I just can’t with this BISH. On behalf of ALL DV VICTIMS- (male and female and including myself)… I TRULY TRULY HATE HER. Where are the broken blood vessels in her “black eyes “?? Why are the not swollen? SHE NEEDS TO STOP!!!!
Let me first send you love and light beloved🪬💜🦋🙏🏽…”the memories”…”the imprint”…the months I his away in a DV shelter literally afraid to even come out of that small room, blinds and drapes drawn closed…The very fact that this entitled woman has used this so called “movement” (that’s a whole other story🤨IMHO;) to further her destruction of this man is just vile. So many women and men have been fractured in toxic relationships. But AH has decided because she wants to “possess” JD and if he won’t submit she will destroy; and a lot of vulnerable people actually believe her narcissistic narrative.
After listening to the audio of after the Australia incident, it's clear that everyone there knew she'd caused JD's injury and they weren't surprised. The weird thing is that amber recorded that audio. It puts her testimony in a whole new light.
No, she doesn’t talk about the feelings. She talks about the visuals, as one might if one is imagining it as a movie scene, and didn’t actually live through it. Although, she does seem kind of obsessed with how she appears to others, so that might play a role in her framing.
I was thinking that the way she describes this feels a lot like scenes/visuals of a movie. The detail about the dirty carpet definitely felt like a director zooming in on the face of an actress staring at this dirty carpet as something awful happens to her, for example. The 'i didn't see johnny anymore it was all black, his eyes were all black' and "i was looking for him in there" feels very cinematic/right out of a book.
@@kayfelker8268 yes, I had the exact same association. She repeatedly reached a kind of crescendo, then paused for one beat. I kept thinking “yes, if this was a movie, that’s how you would tell it. The pause would allow the music to soften and the camera to pull in close”
She also begins almost every sentence with “I remember…” so the audience hears that it’s a recollection. That’s a strategy; her team probably told her to say that
@@kayfelker8268 what she said she didn’t see him anymore and it was all black I was like -wait did she lose her sight? I thought she couldn’t see Johnny anymore because she was literally seeing black! I must’ve missed the word “eyes”. My ex when drunk and scary would have black eyes. No color. It was terrifying. I hope she is lying bc it would suck to be telling the truth and the world doesn’t believe you.
I was being gaslit for years by someone and apologised to them constantly (I was never abusive, but I was erratic and moody and emotional) - I apologised because he made me think I was the problem and I didn't realise the games he was playing - until I saw a therapist and she said I seemed rational and well adjusted and soon after I began putting it all together. Depp apologising doesn't hold much weight based on Heard's actions. It only makes me think that he thought and believed he was the abuser because that was what she made him believe.
Yep all those recordings proved how effectively she gaslit and confused him. I even started to feel confused and bewildered and hopeless listening to her endless manipulations and twists and riot acts she forced upon him in those recordings. They’re so disturbing
Remember: In Australia she had sliced up feet, cuts in her arm and was bleeding out of her private parts. She got no medical attention and one day later she sat on a plane reading a book, checked into the Hotel Chateau Marmont in LA, asked her assistent to bring her a bikini and was sitting by the pool with her friends. I wish I was that invincible.
Yes and she says “he has me up against the throat”. No bruising at all. I was knocked up the first time pretty good and spent the next day in bed instead of going to a Christmas parade. I was sore and my muscles hurt from the hole thing and emotionally I was shutting down.
And she bought the relationship advice book at Sidney airport, right? But someone just claimed, you can not buy any books there, don't know if that is true, even if there is a store there, this is such a silly and childish manipulation. Like we would all sit there and feel empathy for this great woman working on her relationship right away after going through that abuse..
It is absolutely BIZARRE how she kept repeating the same thing over and over as if she couldn't move on. I know people who have been SA'd, myself included, dread saying the hardest parts, but whenever I talk to anyone about it I'm basically bracing myself to say those hard parts from the beginning, and then try to say them quickly and move on. And I definitely don't repeat those parts multiple times.
She is so very detailed about the most insignificant details like floors, and landscapes but can’t complete 1 full comprehensive sentence about 1 alleged abuse scenario.
Regardless, security wouldn’t allow this attack since they have to protect Johny from himself if necessary. This woman is such an insult to the real domestic violence victims. Her behavior is shameful and repulsive.
She said she was having a lot of pressure in her pelvic area with a bottle she wouldn’t be able to walk sorry she made no sense she may need medical attention she talks in circles is she got aphasia she talks like a robot so isn’t something doesn’t add up
I'm sorry but security seem to have been a joke: They didn't stop fingertips from flying, windows and things to be smashed, bottles to be thrown, paintings to be ruined etc - no matter who dit it the security were nowhere to be found. I would seriously had fired them and demand the money back
@@maryday9351 I agre with you, so far nothing supports her claim about sexual violence(but her testimony isn't over yet and we haven't hear all other witnesses yet so I reserve the right to change my opinion) If she had stuck to the verbal and emotiopnal abuse it would have been enough since JD's own textmessages and the audiorecordings support that, but there has been no real proof of sexual or physical violence so far
@@karatekaninen3045 I'm very curious about that as well. So far I tend to assume that on private property the security was not right around but waiting in another, close-by, building. I mean, we saw the pictures of the place, it looks very secluded, enough in my opinion that JD doesn't need security at ear shot for maximum reaction. Again I'm assuming and I would love some clarification about where that security was and why it wasn't able to intervene.
@@nejaahalcyon Yeah.. I mean I understand that they are not psychic and can prevent everything before it happens, but flying fingertipps(he most have screamed out iof the pain( bottles that got smashed against the wall, her screaming too, the whole place being smashed up.. I just don't understand why they didn't do anything sooner? because what is the point with secuirty if they are not close enough to hear if something is wrong or, and this is not goo for AH or JD, they were used to them fighting and smashing things or had been told not to intervene, that is why I want to hear the full clip so we can hear thei rreactions when they got there, and when they got there. There is an audiotape claiming to be uncensoured but it's not and it annoys me, dont lie sayign its unsencoured when we all can hear that its not.
This is truly shameful, Christy Mack was brutally assaulted within an inch of her life around the same time, 2014 or 2015 if I remember correctly and the pictures and evidence of her injuries were hard to digest. This woman had to have reconstructive surgery/dental surgery, I mean the whole works because she was pummeled within an inch of her life meanwhile Amber’s injury are nothing in comparison. It truly is disgusting if she is making this up.
Maria Nemeth was murdered and disemboweled by her boyfriend with a bottle around the same time this happened too and the absolute worst most disgusting part of amber's lies are the stories she co-opted without even knowing one thing about the gravity of what she is talking about. As a DV and SA survivor myself, I'm insulted. Absolutely repulsive thing to lie about
there is a twist for sure why she doesnt have any scars despite dragging her face through a sea of broken glasses....legend says....she has a healing power lmao..
She also spends a lot of time looking directly at the jury and sweeping her eyes back and forth while sobbing and describing awful humiliating things. That's not the way anyone I know would react to crying in public and not how recounting these things would happen.
Johnny wouldn’t be suing her for $50 million if he was guilty of any sexual crime against AH. There’s no way a very popular man like JD would open the door to the implications she brought if he was guilty of doing them.
Her testimony goes against all evidence, all the previous testimonies (exceptionally the previous one). Her words and expressions goes totally against her posture of the previous weeks. The way she looks at the jury and her over emotional speech just shows she's not genuine and is trying to build up a character. 🔍 And here are some important and relevant points when it comes to this trial: - Where are the witnesses of the plane fight? - Where are the witnesses of the cottage when they were eating muchrooms? - If she has PTSD how does she remembers so many details? *addendum*: Actually, according to some experiences shared in the comment section, there are many victims with PTSD that remember the details. Anyway, let's see what Amber will show us next. - She gave Johnny a knife (lol). - She married him even after so many years of horrendous abuse (which is also a pattern observed in some toxic relationships where there's codependency, but the same could be said about Johnny, that was undeniably abused by her). - It is logically and obviously impossible for her not to have recorded nor taken pictures of her "punched" face (that, according to her, happened frequently). *That fact gets more relevance since she has recorded johnny sleeping, drunk and screaming BUT NEVER he punching her or her bruised face.* (That would be the least she could do). - NOBODY has testified that they have seen a bruise on her (that's absolutely relevant when it comes to the cross exams). - She's acting just like what Dr. Curry has explained. (What is not intelligent if she wanted to prove her wrong). - We shall not forget the lie about Milani makeup (at the opening statement). *bizarre, please guys* - At the begging of her testimony, she said the same exact phrases from a movie (I recommend searching for it). - Her lawyers were manifestably and unapologetically rude and have NOTHING as an actual evidence, which was so clear in the past couple weeks. If they did, the case would be already over. (👨🏻⚖️ Hearsay I guess) - There is a lot of *factual* evidence against Amber, but she probably won't enter into those details cause she apparently doesn't take responsibility for any. ⭕️ And the most important thing: if Johnny had something to hide, he would never fight for an open and public trial, which he did. It's so obvious and painful to watch. Ps: just wanted to add that Amber has met secretly with Johnny even after the protective order against him, by her own will. However, today after her testimony she acted like she was afraid of him when he was about to leave the room. Hope Johnny's Team can bring up an excellent and thoughtful cross examination. Wish you all the best. ✨
You're awesome for spelling all this out! It's painful to watch her lie about abuse that actually happens to people. It's disgusting because she has been described by so many people as being mean, rude, and abusive to JD, her sister, and her staff. The pictures and even her evidence don't support her story.
Her wife got the one witness from the plane dismissed by forging a tweet and setting the judge up to ask her about it. She was no doubt going to call bullshit
Yes i agree. - Were is the pictures of cut feet? -were are the obsessive jealous texts from Johnny? - were is the blood smeres ON the floors from cut feet? -she has broken her nose twice yet No medical record of anything? -everybody has Said she didnt wear any makeup or very natural. If she had bruises. That makeup have had to be thic. IT would be noticable. -if she didnt have anything to hide, why has she not handed in her phone for evidence? And metadata?
JD's team should play the December 2015 James Cordon video showing Amber with NO injuries to her face, even though she claims she had a split lip, broken nose, hair ripped out of her head, and black eyes.
I purposely avoided this day of testimony when it was live, but with your humor & comments it was easier to watch. I always try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but her quick switch from panic to calm and the lack of tears was an absolute insult to anyone that's ever faced real abuse
Give that man a medal for sitting through so many hours of these lies and having the wherewithal to keep his mouth shut and his face so controlled. I honestly don't know if I could. I think that, alone, speaks volumes for his personality and ability to be in control of himself (at least while sober, which I know is part of the issue).
Even while intoxicated those endless recordings showed his amazing self control. That’s why she’d try to trick him into saying things she could twist around, because even with all those recordings SHE was clearly the aggressor and abuser.
Hysterical crying at points, but no red eyes, no running nose, no sniffling, not a single tear. (I WAS WRONG HERE, PLEASE READ MY EDIT.) That, as well as the mild injuries in the evidentiary photos juxtaposed against the brutal, horrific story she told, are the biggest things I can't get over. Honestly, I felt really guilty while watching this. The picture she painted was absolutely gut-wrenching, and it feels gross that I can't bring myself to believe it. EDIT: After rewatching parts of the testimony from a higher quality video, it's clear to me that she shed tears during several parts, including a full tear down her cheek when describing hiding bruises in her backless dress during an award ceremony, and very wet eyes during the testimony about the SA with the bottle. KCianci was the one who pointed it out, and they are absolutely right. I'm really sorry for making that remark. I'm leaving my original comment up unedited for the record, but I was definitely wrong, and I'm pretty ashamed of it. I obviously need to look at my own biases here and re-evaluate what I think about the case. Don't get me wrong, so much stuff doesn't add up or make sense to me... but I was definitely stupid and wrong about this.
Yes! And she wants us and jury believe that after such brutal assault she didn't go to have medical check-up? Like, right after? But the day-ish after she went home with King that haven't seen anything except some scratches on arms. The only thing that she had done (ever) was concussion check-up and nurse said that there was nothing. Also I can't believe that after so many broken noses hers looks so good (also - if you're actress that lives of pretty face wouldn't you go to surgeon to make sure that it heals properly?). I wasn't watching her, just listening, and at some moments she sounded believable, but the "I don't remember. I wish I remebered, but now let me describe you every single detail of the situation, carpet included" threw e off every single time.
@@bakaichigo I'm sorry I don't believe her at all. JD rings would live marks also in her OWN recordings SHE is the aggressive one. I do believe he probably had to restrain her at times.
“Parakeet floors” at 43:45 is still so funny to me 😂 she obviously meant parquet floors, and didn’t know how to pronounce the word from her own made up story.
Nobody knows anything for sure except those 2. Both are innocent until proven guilty of something. And I don't care about some meaningless government legal bullshit definition of the words "guilty" or "innocent". I mean initiating mathematically quantifiable scientifically testable harm and injustice.
Institutionalized?!?! Get a grip and take a moment to think about what you are saying. Her behavior is abhorrent, but would you say the same thing about a non-celebrity behaving in the same way.
one of the hardest things to believe is that level and severity and frequency of these abuses. We're not talking pushes and shoves, we're talking belligerent drunken madness with broken bottles and broken tables and punches with some rather large rings. However, the pure lack of injuries sustained from such horrific descriptions is not believable. Let's all remember Rhianna and Chris Brown.... I don't care how much makeup you put on, you are not covering that level of abuse up for at least a week.
100% !!! That is what I am convinced of. She is so drastically exaggerating his behavior that it's inconceivable in the context of everyone else's testimony. There is NO WAY he actually did this stuff after a lifetime without any of these behaviors. In addition, if she's supposedly skilled enough with applying makeup to hide all marks or bruises, it stands to reason that all her acting experience also taught her how to use makeup to CREATE the appearance of bruises, as well!
And yet despite all the broken bones and constant beatings every audio recording you hear "stay Johnny. Just stay. Dont leave me." I would think you would want someone who's beating you that badly to be on a whole different continent, not the same room as you.
Oh yeah, she testifies that she tries to escape, he won't let her leave... Yet in the recording she is says, "you always leave in the first 3 seconds of an argument".
My apologies if this has already been addressed. I’m trying to figure out why the fact that her drinking habits, (2 bottles of wine 🍷 per day), would act as a blood thinner. Therefore, her bruising would be considerably worse than someone who isn’t drinking. With her habits, the blood would be faster to pool under the skin, causing really bad swelling and bruises with minimal force!
Chat also pointed out that when she testifies to broken glasses and spilled alcohol around the house, it's all wine. She repeatedly states that Johnny was on liquor.
@@redisthecoolestcolourI’m on replay crew for this one and didn’t watch the chat. Thanks for the FYI! Your so right! If Johnny was drinking straight Rum 🍹 or something, please do explain why only her wine bottles we’re laying around! Good point!
As another woman, I don’t know how she thinks we were going to buy the bottle story. You know every V in that room clenched in phantom pain during her testimony and she was walking straight afterward? She’s full of it.
The bottle thing was so bizarre. I can barely watch it. 😖 Don't bottles have that metallic ring that's left behind from unsrewing the top? That alone would tear you up really seriously!
The motions she made for the bottle incident could not have possibly happened because of where and how she said she was pinned down on the bar. The trajectory could not be possible, I don’t think.
@Ashley FINALLY!!! I’ve been waiting to see if I were the only one to have thought about suction! She said it was ‘back and forth’ and ‘repeatedly’. That one scenario confirmed she was making shit up.
This judge has been INCREDIBLY lenient with “Elaine” not to mention the “Hughes” fiasco. I know some judges where I am at that would not take so kindly to “Elaine’s” argumentative statements once she has ruled.
yea seriously shes the only lawyer I've seen get objected to, have it sustained and then be all "but your wrong" then try to ask the question differently
She’s the defense attorney I dislike the most (although they’re all fairly unlikeable) and that’s the primary reason. Responding to opposing counsel’s objections with unprofessional retorts like, “No it isn’t,” “How is that hearsay?” etc. instead of providing a legal justification and acting offended like it’s not their _job_ to object, same as hers. Disrespecting the judge’s rulings both verbally - “Well _I_ don’t think so,” and nonverbally - huffing, throwing up her hands and signaling through body language that only an idiot would disagree with her. Repeatedly trying to submit that one piece of evidence after the judge said it couldn’t come in. Her entire opening statement, in which she appeared to be testifying on AH’s behalf. Her cross of Paul Bettany when she asked “You didn’t hear him say [very explicit offensive statement]? You didn’t hear him call her [explicit offensive name]?” etc. after he testified he hadn’t heard JD shout anything. (I don’t know if that’s considered okay from a legal standpoint, but I felt like she quoted those statements - which no one had testified to hearing yet - just to make the jury dislike JD for allegedly saying them. All the stupid makeup questions - if someone says AH didn’t appear to be wearing _any_ makeup, asking if she was wearing blush, concealer, foundation, mascara, etc. feels like badgering to me. Also, asking what brand or shade AH uses, as if it’s possible to tell and you _must_ know in order to determine if she’s wearing any. And let’s not forget the condescending attitude towards opposing counsel’s witnesses (unless they’re also a female lawyer, apparently; she was a lot more respectful toward JD’s divorce attorney) vs. the over-exaggerated sympathy, borderline sucking up and coaching/leading questions when she interacts with her own. I expect a shift in tone between the two, but is it necessary to be _that_ rude? Wow, this turned into a HUGE anti-Elaine rant. Sorry about that! I think her doing the direct reminded me of all the things she’s done I didn’t like. I’m sure she’s a nice person in real life. Guess I just needed to vent.
@@puzzledotgamer5461 Seriously. My late husband was a criminal defense attorney and at least in a criminal trial I don't believe he would have argued with the judge. Perhaps this is common in a civil trial? I'm not familiar with their operations. I think it makes "Elaine" look badly.
@@kkheflin3 I dont think it is common because with all the Lawyers there I think a total of 4 including Elaine only she's arguing with the Judge. Even heards other lawyer isn't doing it so I think it's only Elaine and her inner Karen at play.
@@puzzledotgamer5461 I also dislike Rottenbone (or whatever his name is.) I can't put my finger on it....I think it is just his tone when he speaks. Something just makes him dislikable. But they aren't trying to win a personality contest I guess...That being said the jury is made up of people such as us so I suspect her attorneys are not going to play well in front of the jury with their "style."
*Here are my observations* - Usually abusive partners isolate you from your friends and family. They dont offer them beautiful penthouses right next to you 🙄 Pretty sure if I plan to beat the crap out of my partner I don't want her sister and best friend right next door while I do it lol - NO MEDICAL RECORDS!!!! Of any kind for ANY THING. Feet cut to shreds but NO BLOOD SMEARS on the floor. Only drops. Is she going to say the English man cleaned AROUND drips and JUST cleaned her blood? - According to her, she went through a horrible, painful, humiliating sexual assult....but then is heard on tape saying she doesn't want to leave him? Come on....I'm a woman....lots of woman here. I KNOW ABUSED WOMEN.....who don't leave....even THEY have a line...and that would of been it. - She is SMART ENOUGH to record him, take "photos" so she can gather PROOF.....but doesn't think to go to a doctor or a police officer to get an official RECORD of injuries and damage 🙄 - When mentioning ANY interaction with security during one of these assults.....she ONLY MENTIONS the security guard who of coarse is now passed away and can not testify against her 😳
She’d have extensive injuries after these attacks. She’s actually a sociopath. Gawd! I hope this highlights how dangerous these people are to go anywhere near.
These people? None of the disorders she's been diagnosed with are inherently dangerous. She was never diagnosed as having anti-social personality disorder. There's nothing to highlight.
You're ok with him texting Paul Bettany that he wanted to burn, drown, and sexually abuse the corpse of Amber, before they were even married because, he says, she wanted him to get sober? You ok withhim texting that his "monster" took it too far again and he needed help and apologies for hurting her on a plane. You ok with a middle aged man throwing things down the stairs, smashing glass and cupboards in a violent intoxicated rage. He apologizes to her and to her family for hurting her. He told Elton John that his ex was an extortionist French c**t that will turn the kids against Amber. Pattern of misogyny. He admits and apologizes to Amber for being crazy jealous and controlling just as Jennifer Grey says he was. He told his friend that he throws all his rage at the one he loves and is too old for continuing this behavior and needs help. You cool with this?? The excuses and blinders to Depp's behavior is sickening
I had child abuse too. My therapist said almost all people who suffer from abuse most of their lives have great and photographic memories and cannot forget their abuse, they see it in their mind often exactly as it happened. MePoo goes on and on how she can't remember, only sees flashes, "remembers" details later. If you have a poor memory, you forget any abuse. Narcissists have horrible memories.
It seems highly, HIGHLY, unlikely that a victim of such horrific sexual assault is able to tell her story for the first time by facing the jury the ENTIRE time while talking. Usually sexual assault victims don't make direct eye contact like when reliving their trauma. Also no signs whatsoever of swollen red eyes for the remaining time of her testimony. If I have an emotional crying episode, my eyes go puffy and all red. And it takes a good half hour or longer before that disappears again. Usually a trauma victim would absolutely need a break very shortly after from sharing all for the first time, to gather themselves. Amber has zero problems talking further about the paintings. Again, no indication of breathing/anxiety issues, puffy eyes nor other signs of great distress. Her voice remains stable because it is all 100% a lie. I wonder, when proving the lie during cross exam, if Johnny could decide to sue her for false rape allegations. Her accusations are very very damaging and to expose her lies should be taken very serious!
All good points. I was really thrown by the eye contact of jury. I felt shame and embarrassment about my assault experiences. I often give eye contact but not when I discuss my assault experiences. Plus who still cares about their partner after such a violent attack.
Even more... no one goes through all of that and pops 2 sleeping pills and goes to sleep while still in the same 4 walls as the perp. This. Did. NOT. Happen.
This sounds like a desperate woman not knowing what else to do to take this man down who dared to walk away from her…I hope the jury see, hear and feel what we’re all experiencing here from watching this…the cross examination is going to be very interesting
I swear it’s funny that when my abusive narcissistic father knocked my mom out one night during an argument when she filed divorce he went and tried to claim my mother was on meth and fucking other men and that he had to get out of the situation. The funny part was that my father was the one who was in fact on meth, cheating, and my mom had to get out. Narcissistic abusers tell on themselves all the time because they sit there and make up shit in there head flipping there own actions into scenarios where their spouse is doing what they are doing. Then they blow up
@@laurenliz2219 Yes! Seen that WAY too many times in my own Mother! Took me years to see it & recognize it! But I did & when I was listening to the audio Incredibly Average put all of it together in 1 place & within the 1st 20min I heard pretty much all I needed to hear. It reminded me very much of conversations w\my Mother. Fights I witnessed my Mother having w\1 of her 9 husbands & OMG countless boyfriends! So, it was triggering!
I am rewatching this and I don't think JD was making a "power move". He wasn't even paying attention. I think AH acted "scared" because she saw JD walking that way and wanted to make a scene...she was the one making a "power move". My opinion.
Some observations: 1. The constant eye contact with the jury doesn't seem to read as genuine so much as pleading. 2. JD's lack of eye contact/behavior while she's on the stand is very reminiscent to me of abuse victims towards their abusers. Whereas her behavior staring him down when she's on the stand when she's describing actions she claimed he committed against her reads more of intimidation, and less of brokenness. 3. She seems to be demonstrating a lot of aggression in her facial expressions (the bunching around her nose, baring of her teeth, etc.) 4. The incredibly detailed descriptions of the events seems too detailed to me, almost narrative, instead of personal traumatic memories.
Her people - as an actress wouldn’t she have a regular person giving her beauty treatments (facials, laser, injections etc) or makeup artists or hairstylists who would regularly see her up very close and would notice facial injuries and could link it back to appointment diaries??
That’s what I was thinking about the Mordecai story. I looked at her pictures from premier and she looks like she was put together with hair and makeup. No one noticed?
Yes, i agree that more trauma nurses/doctors and estheticians should comment about sustaining these physical injuries, their mechanism and the physical effects of it. I do not believe her then and now w this testimony even less.
So, he told her repeatedly he was going to kill her, was beaten up, thrown into walls and counter tops and penetrated with a bottle and then went to bed and took sleeping pills?? Didn’t leave the house, call a friend, security, police or an ambulance?? Got up the next morning and didn’t mention the pain she must have been in, how stiff and sore her body must have been in, or looking in the mirror, or examining bruises, cuts, taking photos? Didn’t mention how painful it must have been to go to the bathroom or difficulties walking? Decided to go walk around the house? Didn’t call a friend, security or emergency services again? And why didn’t the Nurse take photos, call police or take her to the hospital? Unbelievable!
Yes, I'm rather impressed by her super powers of recovery, I was punched one in the face by my ex and looked like I'd been hit by a truck and had a fractured skull, if one blow can do all that damage, she would have emergency treatment. She's just so full of it!
Yes, I am here months after the verdict. Each time I watch her on the stand, I notice more that I didn’t catch the first time, and I get more angry. She was the ex hell-bent on revenge, not Depp, in my opinion.
when i first watched the trial live i didn’t really *watch* it, just listened to it while working/cleaning/painting etc. coming back to watch it the second time i’m realizing just how on and off her emotions were…it’s completely jarring. i remember seeing people talking about it but i never really realized just how ridiculous it was. the hysterical “crying” to an immediate stone cold straight face when there’s an objection…very uncanny to me. it’s clear she was “playing the role” of a victim, and her acting really is quite awful
Girl !!! Same!!! I’m at her bogus pictures right now. This chick got some Botox and had a coldsore and made a story up . This is so unbelievable and I’m so angry all over again.
As a retired Trauma nurse, there is a thing called "mechanism of injury". What she described as occurring to her would have resulted in such damage, that she would have required emergency care. Johnny wears large bulky rings, even open-handed slaps would have severely bruised and lacerated her face, if not fractured bones. The repeated choking described would have left hand and fingerprint bruises on the neck. I know, I've seen them on DV victims all too often.
I was thinking the same regarding JD rings. The punching her head over and over, is definitely an emergency care situation.
Not just that, each time she said " he punched the wall"... etc every1 shd have declared JD wins the case cause all her testimony would have resulted in him being injured badly or even dead! Remember the constant vomiting even in his sleep also? Then he could have choked and died... facts and logic support that she needs help
Facts
At last somebody who understands what abuse is. I am a survivor and I tell she is not a victim of nothing. She drove him crazy and that's why he used to go to hide in the bathroom.
I was punch by someone wearing a large ring. I needed 12 stitches to my forehead. I still have a scar and it was a decade ago.
Imagine being a victim of abuse and having to sit and listen to your abuser lie about you in this way. It's a continuation of the abuse. This is so vile.
I have been watching this trial in pure horror. I survived intense DV and DA in my childhood home and my first serious partner was controlling and ended up being abusive, forcing me into homelessness while giving the narrative i tried to hurt him to diminish my support net....this is just all so awful. I know what the lying looks like....I know what real abusers do....this is just so awful for Jonny. Knowing how he grew up, my heart continues to bleed for him and this traumatizing experience.
I went through this and it was brutal.
That's a part of abuse she's still trying to hurt him anyway possible she can.
Yeah, and the way she brought up Lily Rose...she knew what she was doing.
As a victim of Dv an too scared to call the police. Once i left i had to put a private application for dvo. He basically mimics my application. Imagine abuser saying she sexually abused me by waking him up with a head job and having my way with him 😳.
One claims to be a flawed human, the other claims to be a saint.
It's not that hard to know who is lying...
She has a record since she was a teenager
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No tears, no f*cking tears, not one, not actual wet tears...and her regaining composure in an instant?
@@sharonhoward884 should have smuggled in an onion or two
Exactly! She is just a southern bell who broke horses as a child, and worked her way to Hollywood! An older man “groomed” her, and she’s been nothing but wonderful while he was punching and beating her! Kicking her with boots on (no pics?), and he always wears clunky rings (her words), yet there were no cuts on her face from them after he’d punched her over and over? Come on! She’d taken pics of him sleeping, but never took pics of herself? (Except a few where she looks hungover and like she maybe bit her own lip?)
As a person who has worked in a trauma ER for 17 years, I find Ambers testimony completely unbelievable.
It just occurred to me... when he was angry and slamming the cupboards and clearly drunk, she was right there, unafraid, in his face, annoying him, asking him questions, recording him. CLEARLY not the behavior of someone who is terrified for their lives. From all the audio and video we've seen, she's been aggressive and trying to keep him around while they're angry. If angry, she should be AFRAID and want to run, not KEEP HIM AROUND if she's terrified of what he might do. Meanwhile Johnny repeatedly shows that all he wants to do when angry is leave the situation! I'm sorry, I think she is spewing COMPLETE BS. I really hope nothing like this ever happened to her, but I am not seeing ANYTHING to suggest it did. PLEASEEE Win Team Johnny!
She was laughing at him too
Excellent point.
@@Megumi646 yes, you're right. Smiling! Like no sense of danger there.
At the very least, I’m seeing more people talk about this and realizing that it was unfair that his side wasn’t listen to at the time. I’ve also seen more people open up about their own past experiences, including men. This is why it was so problematic that people started saying “believe all women” during the height of the metoo movement; I’m not sure why some people started using that as opposed to “believe all victims” as it clearly shows gender bias and assumes all victims are women.
Right?! Also, in the recording where JD says “don’t tell me what it feels like to be punched!” Her response was something to the effect of yeah, yeah, you’ve been around a long time and been in your share of fights. If she had been hit even once, her response would be something like yes I do know what it’s like because you hit me! I feel like this is such an important recording and no one is talking about it
Her lying about trauma is more triggering than anything. It’s like she’s acting for the role of her life and completely failing..
YESSSS. So triggering.
Thank you!! So true.
I've had a two-day migraine because I wanted to watch her take the stand, but couldn't handle watching her lie like that. Brought back so many memories of my abuser's lies rolling off his tongue like he'd had a week to prepare for whatever I had to say.
EXACTLY!!! She looks like she is trying TOO hard and is auditioning for theater, not live TV.
@@IsaVarg she looses me constantly with her story telling.. she’s made herself a public figure representing false accusations lmao..
As a DV and SA survivor, this testimony is a slap in the face
Sending you warm squishy hugs and love awesome human xx You are valuable and worthy xx
@@emmafmaurice ❤️ thank you
I can absolutely see how you would feel that way. Please know that in the court of public opinion The Nameless One is not being believed. You are strong, you are important and you are worthy.
Completely relate & agree, dude.
Big hugs hun xx
Rewatching the whole trial because people still insisting that the verdict was wrong and realizing now that Johnny's case wasn't what decided everything. Amber and her lawyers really shot themselves in the foot because I was completely buying into the mutually toxic narrative until Amber's side started their case. It was bad with doctor Hughs and it only got worse and worse
And after being sexually assaulted and beaten up, Amber walks around the house taking photo's of the damage to the property..... and NOT of her injuries?..... I mean SERIOUSLY?!!!
to be fair the pics were from mainly Ben king but Emily noted something I would have been maybe too dumb to think about... if she's walking around bleeding WHY no blood smears? ?!!! just drips... which makes sense if a finger got lobbed off
She dont existanymore that her ghost. Ambee is dead hahaha
This is one of the best points against her version of events for me
Im a film editor and can SEE in the photos of Amber's face, exactly where elements were added TO The photo in editing and the feathering around the layer including that the added elements have a different resolution than the original untouched parts of the photo, for instance the "bruising around the eye and what she intends to appear as bruising discoloration at the top of her nose bridge". These are not the same resolution but are blurred likely gausian, and can be seen if you load these pix into Photoshop. this is why JDs team will NEVER see the metadata from Amber's photos, they would confirm editing and dates/times conflicting with her "allegations'
Not to mention the audio recording Amber took from that night which completely disproves literally everything she claimed.
Did Emily comment on that? It has Jerry Judge/Dr. Kipper/Nurse Debbie in the recording, so I'm not sure if they're allowed to play it in court.
P.S. ALSO INSANE - the one time she called the police on Johnny for domestic abuse, the police came and found her totally fine- BUT ALL OF THESE BLOODBATHS that she is describing she never called the police for!?!?!? I CANT I CANT I CANT
That is because she knew he was done with her. She had to find a way to hold on. Also bpd. She is not fooling me with her nonesens.
Facts.
@@lizmiller3325 nonsense
She also mentioned early on in her testimony that she called the cops multiple times. Girlie, where’s the proof. There would be proof of that.
Actually the friend in New York called the police twice.
I don’t know which part makes me the most mad… that she ruined a man’s life just because she thought she could, that she basically spat in the face of every real abuse victim, or that she thinks we are all incredibly fucking stupid.
This story is impossible to believe, I’m sorry.
Sums up perfectly what I’m thinking. I’ve watched a lot of trials and I’ve never seen anything like this.
Truth!
You're so right, what a ridiculous woman, so glad Johnny won!!!
The part where she says Johnny hit record on her phone is outrageous. That recording was by her, she is so sneaky she left her phone recording everyone downstairs After he had gone to the hospital. She just had to know what they were saying about her. And you can hear that recording. Kipper, Lloyd, Judge, & King looking for his finger, saying she Has To Go, give her meds, She Did This, How to deal with her etc... She just had to know what they were saying about her! Her lies are astonishing and her blaming him is diabolical. She should be in jail for doing this to him.
She didn’t ruin his life. Oh, she tried. She tried so very hard to, but Johnny came out of this knowing the world loves him. She completely failed to ruin his life and ended up ruining her own life and ‘career’ (such as it was) in her process. There’s a nice bit of poetic justice in that. She tried to humiliate him by having all this out in the open, knowing he is a very private person. She ended up showing the whole world instead what a manipulative, conniving piece of work she is.
The worst assault of her life that she’s “emotionally crying” over and then instantly stops in less than a second and sits there looking bored?!!! How can anyone believe this?
She can’t cry!
There is a kind of ‘reduced emotional affect’ thing going on with her. Now, as Malcolm Gladwell described in ‘Talking to Strangers’, it is very difficult to actually use someone’s expressions - or incongruence thereof - to prove their intent, as science found almost a third of the population is ‘incongruent’ in their expressions. Simply stated: the majority emotes in a way that resembles the cultural clichés we know from a show like ‘Friends’. But there’s also a significant group where the inside (thoughts) don’t match with our expectations of the outside (expressions). It will certainly be interesting to see how a jury interprets her exceedingly strange stories. But if someone has significant drugs and alcohol use, or serious psychological problems, the face can go kind of ‘neutral’, which is what I’m constantly observing with her. Any emotion she shows is consciously put there, made to resemble what she expects someone in that situation to look like. Besides all the wild proof and testimonies it’s been this part of her behavior that has intrigued me since the start of the trial. Having listened to the leaked audio from the ‘finger incident’ (which has been ruled inadmissible I believe), it was most telling that the physician that was trying to help them in their house can be heard talking to his aid/nurse, discussing how they can calm her down because she keeps stomping through the house as they search for the finger. Then he goes (paraphrasing): ‘she normally takes x-amount of relaxant in these situations, but I’m okay with giving her more if need be’. Which is telling.
@@carold.7708 rub chili powder on herfingers, lol.,
@@larsickenroth7169 but the the sniffling without sounds of secretions or tears (or even a nose getting red), seems suspicious. The audio from the day of the alleged SA is on Incredibly Average UA-cam channel and is insane! He also proves that Amber's "witness" who ran to her side while in LA, was actually in NYC and grabbed screenshots before the location tags of the witness' post were deleted or removed altogether. I wanted to believe AH, but those vids from 2 years ago made me v skeptical. She also stated that there was no SA prior to the recent bad press headlines. So bad PR made her remember the severe SA and DV episodes not mentioned previously? This is v disheartening.
@@larsickenroth7169 Seroquel is an anti-psychotic, just in case you were wondering, not really a "relaxant" per say, but for many people it can be tranquilizing. Normally, I would agree with you about incongruent expressions, which are common in the situations you described and even more so in uptight, rich circles where showing intense emotion (of any kind, really) is STRONGLY frowned upon (although, rage seems to slip through rather often, lol). But Amber's nose was dry. It stayed the same color as the rest of her face. Her cheeks never flushed. Her eyes never reddened. Her voice never truly broke, but it sounded like she was trying very hard to *force* it to break. I am absolutely fascinated and equally, creeped the hell out by her body language. I have never seen nor heard such a strange testimony in my life.
At about 2hrs 20mins, The evidence pic of wine on the wall is not an Australian Photo, they aren’t the power sockets we have here in Australia..
The two on the left definitely aren’t American plugs. Possibly they had multiple different types since they rented out the place from people all over the world? Be well ✌️
Interesting how the only security she names when describing interactions is literally the guy who absolutely cannot testify because he's dead.
Rewatching and I've been saying this to myself!
How convinient when ppl are around she doesn't name drop anyone except Jerry.
Because that means there's no one to ask if they back up her version.
So irritating and disrespectful using a dead person like that.
And of course damning recordings can’t be used….
Her entire testimony disgusts me. But at the part where she claims that he began to sexually assault her with the bottle it made me feel sick. And furious with her . I don't believe a word she is saying and the fact that she can sit up there and lie like that about another human being is horrific. Having lived through a marriage that was one long nightmare and having felt true fear for my life and having had black eyes and severe pain too many times to count at the hands of my ex seeing her lie truly makes me feel physically ill. Watching JD's expression during this is telling. He looks sickened himself and not because he's guilty. She is spitting in the faces of every single real victim and is loving every minute of her most watched "scene" ever. Ugh, I just can't. I hope that she never knows how it feels to truly be a victim because I wouldn't wish that on anyone. But she does deserve some serious karma. And life has a way of making that happen . God help her if it does.
I think people feeling "uncomfortable" is an understatement
I am truly sorry that you were a victim! I fortunately never have been but I felt AH recounts of all abuse to be extremely exaggerated and twisted... statements like I kept thinking I hope the bottle isn't broken is very much what clinched my opinion as to her story being false and the photos that show minor injuries that were either self inflicted or she could very well have obtained while Johnny had to try and restrain her in order to protect himself. This AH is one psycho who I feel set Johnny up, starting with secretly taping and filing TRO and I believe if Johnny had fought that TRO back then this case would have happened way back when but since he just prayed she would just go away, she just waited to use her false so called evidence in attempt to promote her career while dragging JD down.... it has always been about the money and not love!! Justice for Johnny!!!
She needs serious psychiatric help ASAP
Around the 3 hour mark a thought crossed my mind that how shes describing things sounds like it was a dream.
Yes. You're so right about her.
I'm glad you're okay now.
The thing that triggered me was not her describing the SA, its her saying that the next day she kind of didnt think about, just walked downstairs to talk to him. Thats when I knew shes lying.
For me its all the "I don't remember"s like she doesn't remember how that night ended or how she got off the counter top... In my experience that just cannot be true.
@@nicole3977 to me, it sounds like she was watching something that then faded to black. Like she was trying to describe a movie or show
@@vrknyght8207 like watching herself beating her husband up?
She just switched the roles and is trying to tell how it would feel like.
Maybe she can tell these horrible stories with very odd details because she's done them already to others.
@@kanelikainalo I am a kinetic learner, so describing these things with how they felt is important to me. She seemed to describe seeing it much more...and her visual descriptions were weird.
Walked downstairs to make him coffee after been bottle raped! C'mon, man! Let's go Brandon...
I am a retired professional Nurse and S/Worker, ( working with M.H. Addictions and disability amoungst other issues) and as someone who is also drug dependent on Opiates due to severe pain-I can assure you that if u are entering withdrawals you can barely put ur clothes on-certainly there is no energy to " attack" physically.On the rare occasions I have needed my meds early I have even had to dress approx 3 hours before elaving as I knew I would be to frail and weak to get dressed and prepare myself to get to my Chemist /Phramacy.!
I only have my own experience here, but my ex-gf and I babysat her brother for 2 weeks when he was detoxing off Roxycodone, and he was markedly more irritable than usual. We were pretty on edge the whole time, because he was super erratic and definitely had enough energy to get violent if it came to it. (Luckily, it never did.) I think different bodies react differently - he was a big dude, 6'4" and 200+ pounds. I'm not saying this is the case with Johnny, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Ruth/ same for me. I had absolutely no energy or strength to do anything. However, I was super edgy and agitated, there was just no way I could have done anything about it ( in response to the first comment also)
@@abasslinelow Yeah.. I can’t say Johnny did the things Amber said, because there hasn’t been enough evidence to say that for sure - however I’ve seen people in severe withdrawal be very physical, everyone is different.
As an past addict myself I know how unlikely it is to go from 'nodding out' to full of energy and violent. Couldn't hold onto a glass of wine to giving a brutal attack? Unlikely at best..
@@abasslinelow yes u would def be more irritable because it feels like hell, but ( and also I can't speak for everyone) you feel so poorly u just struggle to move/get dressed etc...and given she has her own drug issues and a family with drug issues her " not knowing" how he would feel/react etc is total B.S. such things make u Hypervigilant-she even describes being ultra aware and is clearly not stupid so u kinda have to wonder if she hoped he would be so ill/distressed that he WOULD hit her and give her the "evidence" she needed. Also re the Pics of lines of Coke etc...GOD the neatest Addict I ever saw! So clearly set up and proves nothing other than he has a nice box and she can leave out lines of a white powder and photo the same!!!
I have worked in trauma for 38 years. There is no way from her narrative that she would not have massive injuries. Being punched multiple times, glass cutting her feet, the bottle incident, she would have massive bruising, lacerations, especially if he had his rings on, fractured facial bones, and at least bruising and possibly lacerations from the blunt trauma to her v. Also Johnny would also have bruising and possibly abrasions on his knuckles from striking her and the wall. I hope they have a medical professional discuss and show pictures of what injuries would look like if a person was abused like she claimed. Also they could discuss his finger. He didn't cut it off and it did not happen hoe he told the physicians. They can tell blunt trauma from penetrating trauma from the glass. Is she wolverine and heals spontaneously? Come on people, use your heads. She makes a mockery of the true victims of abuse.
The way she walks away from from all the horible incidents she claims to have gone through without any visible marks sounds like a protagonist in a movie- like violence is just a plot point with no real-world consequences.
even if she hadn’t sought medical care for the sexual assault immediately afterwards (which is a ridiculous thought, if it happened she would have *had* to or else she probably could have died from internal injuries, hemorrhaging etc) she would have had noticeable damage, possibly been rendered infertile. am i supposed to believe she’s never gone to an obgyn?? or if she did they just hadn’t noticed the extensive damage that would have been left behind?? anyway you look at it, it’s not possible to have zero medical records to back up her claims of the sexual assault, let alone all the brutal beatings she supposedly endured.
As someone who has PTSD from DV and attempted murder, her testimony is so triggering. I can’t help noticing the difference in her composure and relating it to my experience on the stand. I know everyone reacts to trauma differently but I couldn’t look anywhere but at the attorney questioning me. I couldn’t imagine looking directly at the jury, at the defendant, around the court room performing for everyone while I relived that trauma.
Whenever I retold my story, I would start staring off into space as I relived it. I can't imagine being so focused and engaged in the moment while talking about a memory that threatens to drag you back. I say that as someone with diagnosed PTSD.
I agree with you, it's performative. She's performing for the jury
These are not *memories*.
This is a performance.
I've seen a lot of testimony of horrific assaults that aren't half this dramatic. There are some common threads - they tend to be stoic, dissociate almost? Like they are talking about someone else. I've never seen one stare at the jury like this either. They never snap in/out of emotions in seconds or even minutes. When they do cry, it's like a stream that starts, but none of this huffing and puffing. That's the most common things I see.
I will NOT say there is a right or wrong reaction to recounting abuse. Everyone is different. I am comfortable saying after all the testimony has come out that Amber, however, is absolutely not recounting abuse committed against her. I'm sorry. I'm confident with that.
She may believe she is a victim in her mind. She may have received verbal abuse. But she was not abused physically or sexually by this man.
@@meems4378 For Sure!!! I couldn’t possibly look at the jury when it was me. (Also a survivor with PTSD here!) I understand we all process trauma differently, but once I started to testify, and the tears began from the reliving of the events, I personally couldn’t recover at all! They had to allow for me to have breaks just to get it together again! No way could I just quit the crying once it began! That and while reliving the trauma-I had to do my best to spit it all out as fast as possible, so I didn’t have to “sit” in the memory any longer than necessary!
I... just... really want SOMEONE to ask Ms Heard, "Do you understand that your testimony is given under oath and any statement that is not given truthfully will be considered perjury?" and have her response on record.
I think on Cross examanation they def will
The problem with that is they have to KNOWINGLY and INTENTIONALLY lie. People with BPD often lie in a misguided attempt to stave off their terror of rejection or abandonment, and are sometimes capable of convincing themselves of their own lies.
I think the most glaring instance of this was with Isaac Baruch. Taking his testimony at face value, he said Amber stuck her face out for him to inspect like she believed there was some injury to see when there simply wasn't. I wouldn't be surprised if AH genuinely believes every single word that is coming out of her mouth.
@@ljamber8972 I can’t wait till JD team gets ahold of her. They have ten days to go over everything she said and catch her in her lies!
@@ljamber8972 Well, I mean, it'd have been smart of the defense to ask her because it would preempt the narrative that she's feeling free to speak slander and manipulation because *they* bring is up, would come across as "See, look. We have nothing to hide. These words are spoken intentionally truthfully." If the prosecution (erm, plaintiff's counsel because it's not criminal trial?) brings it up, it's a bad look. The only reason I could imagine not having your witness explicitly reiterate that they're telling the truth when there are allegations that your client is a gaslighter is if your client may not be telling the truth and you're leaving a window for some kind of deniability. My opinion, of course. I entirely know I'm biased because of my personal experiences.
I’m a DV survivor and I tell you when I was emotional speaking to my therapist I was not focused on the therapist. I was staring off into space reliving the abuse as I talked about it. This looks more like a performance and a bad one at that. I just have a hard time buying today’s testimonial.
I can't think of a single person I could look at while reliving my assaults. I even looked at the floor when talking to my dad on the phone.
I didn’t experience my abuse from a partner, but since my abuse I can’t look many people in the eye at all. Reliving and retelling my story I don’t even know what I’m looking at, my eyes will unfocus and I have to snap myself out of it. I’m definitely not looking at anyone while talking about it, much less looking a bunch of stranger people in the eyes.
@Anni Spurlock Yes, and it’s while staring into space is when you see and feel it, not when you’re describing it to a roomful of people while looking at all of them. She looks from end to end as well, so she’s looking from jury member to jury member. That’s just odd to me.
She said he had his knee on her back pinning her down but at the same time she was looking at his face thinking about his glasses still being on. Unless her neck can turn all the way around like the satan spawn she is, that’s not even possible. She’s such a liar, I hope to god the jury sees that.
The Satan spawn she is 😂😂😂
Owls has really agressive personalities, so i wouldnt be surprised if their resemblance includes the ability of turning their head 180° around
Agreed
I thought exactly the same thing & commented a minute ago.. didn’t mean to copy but I do agree.. she is possessed
This makes NO sense! She is so fake that i am writingtext
So after rewatching Ambers testimony, I noticed that she’s treating this like a stage show. Camille perfectly objects when Amber is about to go into the flow and (attempt) to cry. Amber then stops, resets and look at the judge for guidance and direction, as if the judge is a director of the play. Then she gets the go ahead and starts off right where she was. It’s jarring.
Rewatching too.
I noticed when she describes people being around, she doesn't name drop anyone except Jerry Judge the body guard that passed away.
No one to ask to back her up.
How convinient.
@@Drifting_Koukiits either she don't know them or it someone who can't refuted what she said.
I'm also a retired medic, and that is NOT a broken nose. I'm extremely sceptical that that's even blood on her lip. There is no swelling anywhere on this woman. I've seen assault victims many times and that isn't what bruises look like 2 days later. They have a yellow-green hue when healing. Her lip especially would be noticeably swelled, it's not. She's taken charcoal or something and applied it to the bridge of her nose and under her eyes.
I do gore makeup for costumes around Halloween time every year, and bruises are an absolute art that most beginner makeup artists just don’t understand. The most authentic bruise I’ve ever done took me about a half hour of blending reds, purples, blacks, yellows, and greens. That said, the best makeup artist in the world can’t fake swelling without prosthetics, and I have yet to see anything from the photos that shows swelling.
Those photos have always looked to me like an amateur makeup artist faking a bruise, who doesn’t understand what a bruise actually is, and how they work.
@@JmAnYoShI this!
I’m convinced the raw bit of lip was from the severe chapping and peeling that Accutane frequently causes. It was referenced in her medication list and Kate James testified she regularly picked up that med for her.
Technically we are watching people lie under oath at court. One of them is lying and that's fascinating. Lying under oath in court is a crime but we are millions watching it happen.
Not just a woman perjuring in court but a mother of a one-year-old baby risking going to prison by perjuring herself. Leaving her daughter Motherless.
I'm more and more convinced she has some deeper psych issues that makes her believe 90% of this happened, and the rest she adds because she fears we wouldn't believe her. Which of course is just the opposite. I wish the jury could sentence them both to get help: her for her abandonment issues, him to be sure he stays clean.
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I hope they do move for penalty of perjury, I truly do. If she is grossly exaggerating her testimony, it needs to show the world consequences. When you raise your right hand, it’s for a reason.
@@annabees According to Johnny , Amber doesn’t have a good sense of what happened even immediately after it’s happened . An example is her saying she was hitting, not punching him. This is hard to understand if you don’t know someone like this, but if you know, you know. I do believe that she believes some of what she’s saying. Like the playful nudge in the bottom , on the plane, becomes a kick. However , body language experts reveal that she shows a lot of deception, so I do think she knows some of it is out and out lies.
having experienced all of the same injuries she's claiming to have had, and sustaining bruising in a number of different locations, I would say that my broken nose and black eyes healed the slowest of all. and the bruising actually spreads out and becomes more visible over time. she would AT LEAST have yellowing left over. and the hair thing.... she said is was bleeding and "pus-sy". in my experience, it's not that easy to have your freaking Scalp Torn. I've been dragged by my hair, and what I ended up with was quarter sized bald spots where the hair had torn out. no torn scalp. just swelling and tenderness at the location. I feel personally offended.... I've experienced all of this, and if I wasn't already convinced that she was full of shit, her pictures indicate that unequivocally.
Agreed…saw my mum like this many a times…she couldn’t leave the house for days
I’m sorry you’ve been through this. She is making a mockery of those who have.
I am so sorry you experienced that. You're incredibly strong for sharing and pointing out this hypochondriac. This is infuriating! She's trying to ruin lives because her pride is hurt
Her reports have her being" punched in the face repeatedly, so many times I lost count" atleast 6 different occasions before the wedding as well as being flung across the room, thrown against the wall, and her throat grabbed every single recount. New details everytime she's asked about it. I've seen 2 pictures where she had injuries. The arm bruise where u can see half her face, no marks, and the was when she does looked punched but I've heard it was her sister that did that. Even witnesses to seeing them acting it out
@Jamie Gallea..exactly how it was for me aswell. Patch of missing hair is no joke and very painful. When grabbed aggressively on the arms..those are black and blue finger prints bruising. Shoe print bruises from stomping. Choking/strangling also finger print makes. It hurts insanely bad and the fear of death when we can't escape the ABr, it stays with us always. Such lack of compassion
No tears, no snot, no redness. Nothing. If you were really crying you'd be a dripping, sniffing, red mess.
As someone who has been through abuse, hearing someone talk about their own trauma can make you sympathise and feel it at least a little. When they tear up, you can tear up because you relate to their experience.
There isn't a single shred of that here. Her story didn't evoke even a tiny. bit of sentiment for me. Nothing. What I ended up thinking is just how fucking twisted someone has to be to exaggerate or make it up just to continue with a lie you've already committed to, in order to tear down the life of a man who no longer wanted you. THAT is deeply disturbing.
DV survivors don’t deserve her being up their making a mockery of their pain. I’m appalled watching her act her way through this. If you haven’t suffered abuse you will never know the slap in the face she is handing out to every victim
You get a thumbs up for your handle alone.
Agreed
So well said. She is so grossly unbelievable in her shockingly over the top dramatic narrative that is so inconsistent with true victim presentation. She is so overtly unbelievable that ii promotes the damaging cultural perception of victims as unbelievable. It also sends a false perception to true victims that their experience must be wildly graphic and horrific to ‘ count ‘ as abuse, (a discounting tactic used by perpetrators as well). She has done great harm and disservice to victims in this display of embellished, inconsistent testimony in the absence of solid supporting evidence
@@jaelancaster5506Exactly!
Do you know how many people cannot , I mean CANNOT out of difficulty speak about to abuse to lawyers, cops, doctors, etc.... That they never seek justice of that in a courtroom and here, you have this liar just storytelling. Those that experience abuse remember very specific details. This amber is insane
I think everytime she mentioned Johnny's kids, she got a thrill inside. Knowing how to get to him is her skill.
And tacking on rape and sexual assault....Jesus, she must have been ecstatic when she realized she was getting a chance to victimize him all over again.
She had a smile on her face, in her eyes several times. This is so bad of
Acting. She is talking too fast, her phrasing is off. I have psdt and my child
Was a victim of sexual abuse. This makes me crazy for all the victims in the future. I hate to judge, but this is off. How many times did she practice this? In the pictures there were not that much glass and bottles on the floor and room. She would have blood all over her and cuts, and would need ER help . Broken bones in face, hands (many in both to hurt in fights)
She is done...now her voice in normal. No, no, no. My opinion. He would not
Have been able to write all that is pictured with his finger and been able to
Be reattached. Too much memory with sleeping pills and sedative they gave her, unless she is used to drugs being in her system, but then they are fuzzy and run together. Trauma takes you to shock and your memory is not this consistent. It sometimes takes years to remember . In my experience. It seems like she is following a script. And her lawyer. Oh my gosh, this is so off. In this your body does not think of your pain, it is screaming at you. You don't think of the Abuser's pain.. no more....
thats also why she kept driving home how his physical abuse didnt hurt her. It was a subtle thing to make sure he knew she didnt think he was much of a man. not something the normal person is gonna pick up on
Knowing his kids don’t like her at all. Lily Rose didn’t even come to their wedding.
I feel my own back arch when she mentions his kids. I heard Lily Rose didn't attend their wedding right?
So, Amber had this weird thing where she kept saying "but it didn't hurt" when describing her alleged assaults by JD, which came up a few times. I thought that she was trying to explain how come she didn't have visible marks, like how he was viciously assaulting her without actually marking her. But last night I was rewatching the JD testimony of how he lost the end of his finger and he explained that he initially didn't notice because "it didn't hurt" and then his finger suggenly felt hot, and damp and he looked down and saw his bone because the end of his finger was gone.
I think Amber might be a cyborg that doesn't understand human reactions. She knows what really happened with JDs finger so she knows that is a real reaction. She did not realise that reactions to blunt force (what she was describing) are different to injuries caused by sharp objects... ergo, she thinks that saying "it didn't hurt" is the best way to convey severe trauma.
Opinions on my brand new consiracy theory?
I gave it a thumbs up
I noticed that too when I rewatched him! It’s obvious she doesn’t remember anything because she didn’t experience it.
Right on! She would have serious injuries here and yet we don’t have any testimony or pictures or doctor visit? Have to be medical records from Australia. Didn’t she get bandaged up? Stitches? How could she even walk after the bottle ect….?
@@jasonstrulowitz5670 - Agreed, and always saw on the floor were blood drips which are consistent with Depp’s recounting the events of that time. Heard said multiple times how the floor was so wet with all the bottles w/ liquor that Depp was throwing and that she was slipping all over around the broken glass and her feet were “sliced-up bad,” yet we see no blood smears or any partial prints of any feet. There’s just so much like that that doesn’t fit.
As I child I broke a window banging on it. Terrified I looked at the broken glass on the ground. I was in trouble. I saw a red dot the size of a quarter on the ground and didn't know what it was and then looked at my hand. Gash on my hand lots of blood. THEN it started to hurt. Took 7 stitches.
here is the sequence of events she describes for the australia incident, transcribed as im listening to her:
- he takes 8-10 MDMA pills, allegedly
- JD calls attorney about post-nup, fires her
- calls his agent, screaming incoherently
- she tries to calm him down, alleges drug use
- goes upstairs, comes back down in nightgown
- can't describe interaction, he throws things, screams
- she is up against the wall, head is slammed
- she pushes him off
- he drinks as a show of force (?), then drinks from two bottles
- has her by the neck, chokes her
- shoves him hard, he shoves back
- "at some point" they struggle, he flings her across the room
- she lands on the ping-pong table, he is on top of her, whacking her in the face
- he holds up a bottle, taunts her, she takes it and smashes it on the "white tile" floor
- quote: "that really set him off"
- backhanded or "hit normally", she falls on the floor
- he throws *another* bottle, it misses her
- "at some point" he has a broken bottle up against her face
- she doesn't remember throwing anything in his direction
- he flails her, throws her around by the nightgown
- glass is on the floor
- he throws even more bottles and cans, "one after the other"
- he blocks her exit from the bar
- she freezes, then moves towards the exit
- her feet slip on the tile, she is slammed on the counter top and wall
- he punches the wall
- rips off her nightgown
- she slips on the glass around her feet
- she is up against the wall again, more taunts, more screaming, more wall-punching
- she steps back (she is against the wall), his "energy" shifts to the phone
- he screams at the top of his lungs and bashes the phone against the wall, over and over
- phone is smashed to little pieces
- he is on top of her again, on the countertop, has her by the neck again
- now she doesn't see him anymore (metaphorically)
- she tries to get through to him (but can't)
- head bashing against the bar again, can't breathe, chocked, feet slipping on the glass
- doesn't know what happened next (as repeated several times)
- next thing she remembers she is 'bent over backwards' on the bar
- she thought he was punching her again, but feels pressure (in vagina)
- is penetrated with yet another bottle
- she tries to be very still, looks around the room
- looks at the broken bottles and glass
- can't feel pain but hopes the bottle 'inside her' is not broken
- doesn't know how that ended, or how she got off the countertop
- she is now in the bathroom, retching, loses control of bladder
- blood on the floor (of bathroom)
- doesn't know how the night ended, but remembers him begging her not to leave
- she takes two sleeping pills
- falls asleep, wakes up late morning
- goes downstairs to find him, she is barricaded in a room (?), can't sleep, goes to find him again (???)
- late morning he is still awake since previous night (at length)
- more verbal arguing
- she makes him coffee and calls help (for *his* finger!!!1)
- security and medical help arrives, nurse tries to sedate her but she recieves no further help (???)
(often repeats she doesn't know, doesn't remember, isn't sure, ed simile..)
(i stopped at day 2 but her story continues with the same barely coherent narrative)
this is all completely baffling to me. her story makes no sense at all--- and i left out a LOT of screaming, insults, taunts --- as i tried to focus no the physical stuff. she should be in hospital if not dead, however that series of events might've played out. i can't get myself to believe her i'm sorry......... not with a story like this. nothing makes any sense. four or five times i counted during this deposition she couldn't remember feeling pain after a wound. why ?? and, i mean, how many bottles were involved in that fight??? she said a whole lot without saying anything at all... baffling testimony. BAFFLING...
Thank you because I couldn’t understand the time line nor story she’s trying to say.
Yeah, and NO EVIDENCE. Medical records, pictures? Where's the alleged recording? The pictures we saw don't have near the level of devastation/injury/vandalism she describes here.
What you wrote out in black a white makes it clear if that happened a person would either be dead or in a hospital bed. I know for a fact she was walking about fine in the morning in high heels. I heard the audio. She’s clomping about. She’s crying about being sorry that she didn’t mean to hurt him. His security are trying to placate her and get rid of her and she’s refusing to leave Johnny because he “needs her” and she “loves him”. She also says “I did all this?” When she sees the damage in the room. She also mentions all the drugs she took. At least 4. She’s given many, many versions of what happened in Australia and they get more and more elaborate and over the top. She gives at least 5 different versions of what happened to his finger. When asked outright in her deposition if she cut his finger off she said in an over the top manner “that’s a ridiculous accusation!” I see she didn’t do that this time round. Amber heard is the most brazen and shameless liar I’ve seen in a court room and I’m a dedicated trial watcher and I’ve never seen anything like this. Jodi arias came close but she’s a different kind of psychopath.
I think the same way.
Im a woman...if a dude was shoving a bottle up my vaJJ it would hurt!!! When asked about the pain she said she wasn't thinking about the pain. I was SAY WHAT⁉️⁉️⁉️ NO EFFING WAY I COULDNT FEEL TH E PAIN OR NOT THINK ABOUT IT.
I would have gone to the nearest Hospital, ER. And I would think the glass on the floor would have cut her feet up!!! UGH
Shes wicked & manipulative
@@TuTuFox I don't know how it is in such a case, But if you have a great shock it is possible to not feel any pain. I had a Car Accident when i was 8years old, i had several bones broken, wounds on Arms and Head. Later i was told i was fully awake when the Ambulance came i was told that i even could talk normaly with them without screaming or what so ever. My Brain simply shut off because the Pain was to much but in my case here is the catch i lost all Memorys of that, i can Clearly remember what day it was and why i didnt pay attention to the Cars (even after nearly 25years)... the next thing i remember is that i was in a Hospital the doctors had to put me in an artificial Coma (sry in German it would be künstliches Koma) because the Pain would have been to much after the shock was gone.
So i could believe her that she didnt feel pain in that situation (as i said, i have no expierience wiith sexual assults) but she didnt say anything about the next Day when the potential shock should have been over.
I am even more convinced that Johnny is innocent after hearing Amber's testimony. He wanted to clear his name so badly he subjected himself to sitting there listening to lie after lie, the next one more heinous than the last. I have a lot of respect for him. I don't know if I would have been able to just sit there and contain myself.
I was just saying this today. If I were him I would be having a stroke from the anger and stress of sitting there listening to this malarkey.
Speaks for his self control, doesn't it? Doesn't seem like the demeanor of some out of control, woman smashing maniac, does it?
Notice how she goes out of her way to correct herself earlier and says “there was only one broken window”… and later she says “this is just one of the broken windows” She can’t keep her story straight
nice observation
Yes I noticed that too. So many inconsistencies
No tears, and once she hears the word “objection” all emotion is gone.
FACTS
It’s like hearing “cut!” From the films director.
Right!? I noticed that right away!
You're absolutely right! When she hears "objection" she gets pissed off. She doesn't like her story being interrupted. It's her time to shine
I thought the same thing! I kept watching it happen and I’m like “hmmm ain’t that somethin” 🤔🤔😒
Around the 3:00:00 mark, when she talks about the "broken" bed, a channel called Law & Lumber did a fantastic video explaining how her story is impossible. He even demonstrated with a similar piece of wood how kicking, stomping, or hammering wouldn't take a splinter of wood like that--it would just dent it first. Only a sharp knife prying at the wood could have made it split. So, how that bed was damaged is a clear lie from Ms Heard
I watched Law & Lumber too...it was brilliant!!!
There is absolutely no way a boot will break a solid wood bed. The fact she left the knife on the bed I mean it couldn’t be more evident a knife did that damage. You can kick and stamp all you want you aren’t going to be able to splinter the wood.
The thing that really gets me is that when she gets to the worst parts, she remains incredibly composed and consistent. And, while she’s describing these parts, Johnny is rocking back and forth. It clearly upsets him more than it upsets her.
I noticed that too 😢
I can believe JD was controlling at times and toxic while in the throes of addiction, but I cannot believe that he was brutally assaulting AH so regularly and so horrifically and she only has photos of a couple bruises. This testimony feels like it’s coming from a high school theater class during improv day.
Especially with so much evidence from such a long period of time. She knew she needed evidence but not about all her supposed injuries?
I agree 100%
Would there be a reason the pictures of any bruises were taken days later?
Agreed, and even then I only believe 80% of what she says when she talks about jealousy (I feel like she's lying when she starts acting like she's trying to reach a word count), and even THEN if she was cheating (allegedly) the paranoia would make some amount of sense lol.
@@basketballman1854 I never fell for this stuff. My mother is a violent narc bpd person, so I have always known women can lie and fake it. I say ' listen to all people" but I don't immediately "believe all people" until i hear evidence or both sides.
I feel like I'm watching a person who can't act trying to act. Johnny's lawyers weren't lying when they said this is the role of her life.
Her acting so reminds me of Kristen Stewarts acting..
@@francescagajjar2988 That's an insult to Kristen Stewart lol
less Kristen Stewart more Bella Swan 😂
The fake little laugh she gives every time she said she was “so in love” gives high school play monologue vibes
I'm thoroughly confused.... The violence she's describing in the bar area - how was she not covered head to toe with bruises, how was there no chafing from fabric being ripped off, how were her feet not cut up by all the glass, how was his dominant hand not thoroughly busted up from punching the wall... I'm just having a really hard time reconciling what she's describing with the photos and reports from other witnesses immediately afterwards.
Thank u! I wrote a similar comment... was wondering why no one else was asking this! Everything she said would have injured JD severly or killed him! From punching walls to the kind of violence n drug n alchohol abuse she alleges... it's crazy! Not possible...he woulda died in his sleep.
The only way I can reconcile her account with all the other testimony/evidence is to assume she was the one on drugs and most of what she described was hallucinations. But even with that assumption I still have a hard time believing that she is not knowingly lying.
Yes and first she said her chest was on the countertops, then it was her back, then it was her chest again. Nothing consistent.
Yeah the bar area attack story is so bizarre. She'd be a bloody pulp afterwards if it were true, and a horribly swollen bloody pulp in the days that followed.
What's even more bizarre than that story is how quickly her affect changes while telling it. She goes from sobbing to calmly recounting another story a minute later.
What an absolute freak of nature she is.
And she said she was completely nude and had been on the floor on top of glass so where are the cuts she would’ve sustained on her body if your naked being thrown on top of or dragged on a floor full of glass. There’s just so many questions?! The the fact she keeps mentioning how after each attack she was so worried about Johnny and his well being?! I’m sorry but when my kids father would beat me up I never wondered or cared how he felt. I was scared and only concerned for myself. I wanted to avoid him as much as possible. I treaded lightly around him when he was around. It’s so frustrating hearing or testimony knowing she is really stretching the truth. I’m sure he was no angel but I highly doubt he was just wailing on her like she claims for the most nonsense or reasons. She clearly wanted to control and use him and she couldn’t stand him or his addictions so that disgusted her and frustrated her so she took those frustrations out on him. He probably kept relapsing as a result of a way to cope with being around her. She didn’t leave because she loved the money and attention of fame. Not because she was so in love with him. This girl needs serious help and I mean that in all sincereity not to be a smart ass.
I absolutely lost it when Elaine DREW on that picture and was like "What, if any, bruising do you see in this circle here?" oh my gosh. Girl, if you were brutally assaulted in the ways that you claimed, there'd be no way you can HIDE subsequent injuries, let alone need your lawyer to circle the area you were supposed to have bruising!
I know this is a really old comment but I wanted to add all we need to prove your comment is to look at Rihannas pictures after Chris brown abused her. She was black and blue and very swollen. No one would have needed to circle pictures of her face after the violence she suffered through.
My God. As a women and an empathetic person who has gone through narcissistic as well as sexual abuse and previously married to addicts, I want to give her the benefit of the doubt. But no. no. no. no. I am disgusted and repulsed by this womens testimony. I no doubt believe this was a toxic relationship and dealing with Johnny's addiction was hell. But her accusations of abuse/ sexual abuse....no way. There's no F*kng way. I find myself repulsed and enraged.
I am sorry for your ordeal and the anchor those memories bring. And someone like her can use this thing as some opportunistic tool
while real victims have to deal with this for the rest of your life. And future. And I am disgusted with her too for your sake for other victims sake....
She is so vulgar to me
The way she just stops crying is so strange to me. When I'm talking about my trauma and start crying, I can't even get my words out for a while bc of the lump in my throat.
I definitely have second hand embarrassment from this testimony. She sounds like a teenager lying through her teeth. There is no way she was hit by a grown man as much as she says and has no visible injuries at all. And her so called bruises look like filler bruises/Botox. Very mild and no broken skin or swelling.
I love how she "remembers" literally every single detail of what he allegedly did to her but she conveiently "doesn't remember" if she may or may not have possibly or perhaps not possibly thrown a bottle at him.
Selective memory much?
Yep she has a serious case of selective memory
Or the order in which she was attacked/ with or without the tip of JDs finger attached.
You’d think you’d remember if the guy attacking u had a profusely bleeding digit
So the only bodyguard to ever notice her injuries is Jerry Judge, who has since passed away and can't contradict her story.... How convienient for her. I am disgusted
Yes and she told her mother when it first started early on, but sadly , her mom passed too. Very convenient
Yes, nothing like using a dead person. It's despicable
@@shargomol3572 Next thing she's gonna say he's responsible for their death because they knew too much ^^
Plus in the austrailia recording you hear him saying that she has got scratches on her left arm that in his opinion looked self inflicted and he doesnt mention any other injury at all
As a victim of DV, I am extremely triggered by this whole trial. The fact that JD has to write things out , leave notes all because he is invalidated, spoken over…speaks incredible volumes! She exhibits so much “black and white thinking” it’s undisputed. His covering up, apologizing constantly, man….I could go on and on… did he exhibit what’s called “reactive abuse”, absolutely!! But I am also extremely impressed with his abilities in staying so calm with her and placating as much as he did!!!!
I, on the other hand….wasn’t always as calm in my experience. That type of insidious abuse LITERALLY drives you to “crazy”…it absolutely changes you as well and you’re never the same afterwards…
Once your eyes are “awakened” to such cruel and manipulative personalities.
You can’t unsee it & you recognize that snake if it ever comes near you ever again…..
I am all for JD…..I stand with him, and extremely proud of him! 👏👏👏👏
Thank you for speaking out. ❤ I also understand what your saying about being impressed and agree with the idea of reactive abuse.
Having grown up a generational hick in the Biblebelt of Ohio, his calm behavior towards an abusive woman makes perfect sense to me. "Men hit things, not women, full stop" and "Men bury their feelings until they can't" are absolutely the "code" of the Southern Gentleman. It's almost ingrained in our DNA, men and women, that these are just "truths".
How could all of these things have happened broken glass no clothes throwing cans. And no actual cuts on her feet ? I cut my feet when I break a glass on the kitchen floor trying to clean it up. No believing her that there were no actual injuries
Also when you are actually abused time slows down and you remember the details. She keeps saying “I don’t know, I don’t remember, I wish I could remember “ that tells me a lot
I didn’t hear that about the leaving notes. Wow. He was being abused and silenced
Thank you for standing up and speaking the truth! I'm so very sorry for what you have been thru. Im very proud of you!
She speaks as if she was always sober, whereas the housekeeper testified to the fact that she was drinking a bottle or two of red wine a day.
I hope depps team will come back to this yet
That's a really good point. In every single "scene" she's detailing, she is always sober. But that wasn't reality. So how is it whenever they had an altercation is ALL the times she happened to be stone cold sober?
I was wondering the same thing! I thought maybe she was saying the slaps didn't hurt because she was drunk or something. But she didn't say that, she just said it didn't hurt.
But she's a level 3 fancy wine lady so it's different, it's professional training
Not to mention the medical report saying she had a cocaine addiction
I know this topic is super heavy but I just loved Emily’s reaction at 1:08:32. “This is a whole lot” because that’s EXACTLY how I was feeling when I watched it! And where are the TEARS girl??!
This feels like we're in the Gone Girl movie or book where Amy describes all this horrible things Nick done in her diary and none of this was true at the end of the day.
I was thinking about how happy and nostalgic she was describing their initial courtship. Talking about how magical it was and how much she loved him - while smiling. Anyone who's been abused and tortured by someone will not smile with fond memories about the relationship. In fact, they would describe those happy times with a broken heart, a devastation and a feeling of grief because of how wrong they were, and how filled with regret they are.
Not defending her at all, but this isn't necessarily true. I can tell stories about the beginning of my relationship with my abuser with a smile on my face. Yes, what came later was devastating and very sad, but the beginning? Still one of the happiest times of my life. When he was sober and before the physical things started, he was an amazing man and we made many wonderful memories.
I don't believe AH that she was the victim (or at the very least, not the only one) but painting all behavior as "not how real victims act" is damaging and outright incorrect.
Excellent observation. I hope the jury picks up on that.
I agree
Because she didn’t really love him. She saw he was interested in her so she began to run game.. she wanted to use him for fame and money. Now he really loved her though.
Johnny's face when she's describing the SA is like "are you serious." I don't want to be the ass acting like the victim is lying, but as a woman that has been domestically and sexually assaulted, and having been required to describe everything, I just do not believe her! The way she attempted to describe the SA as if she had no idea what he was doing, while skipping right over the part where she injured him. Her emotions aren't even there. As soon as she stopped describing it her hysteria disappeared. Emotions do not work like that! Or at least our voices!! If she was that hysterical her voice and breathing would be trembling for a while afterward.
He is an actor
@@humanidee118 So is she?
@@jodiecross1402 yes, but he's feigning disgust, it's not genuine disgust. It's concealed guilt.
@@humanidee118 in your opinion
Yea as someone who had to testify about my csa there is not immediate snap back to even neutral emotions. It took a little bit. Like you’re able to get there and it doesn’t take forever but it’s how fast she snaps in and out. Although I know that could be just how she understands how her emotions work, from the very little I know of bpd.
its just unbelievable to me that in AU he was carried to the hospital for ONE hurt finger (bad as it was) and this battered and bruised woman who is apparently within an inch of her life is completely ignored by all doctors, nurses, friends ?????? no fractures no broken bones no visible injuries no slashes scratches bruises vaginal bleeding... ???? wtf
In the recording, JD says, "cmon man, I lost a finger.." and she Does Not say ANYTHING about the SA on recording.... youd think she would in response to him.
Thats just the tip of the iceberg!
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@@mattiemclean9882 what do you mean? Exactly... sorry lol
@angelaray5375 he's saying there's so much more that doesn't make sense about her stories, and that doesn't add up.
@@angelaray5375the recordings prove it all. They prove her stories are lies.
There is full audio of the immediate aftermath of this event when security and the Doctor’s & nurses arrived, where she is screaming “I didn’t mean to hurt him… I’m sorry… I don’t want to leave… I can’t lose him…”etc, etc. and the doctor is fully saying how she shattered the bone in his finger, and talking about how she needs to go back to LA with security, with someone big enough whom she can’t manipulate. It literally proves all of this wrong. But I’ve heard it can’t be played in court because of third party voices? So frustrating.
Yeah I heard they can't use that audio for that reason too. What really creeped me out was Jerry Judge saying be careful she's always listening, while being recorded by a device hidden by Amber. She's actually terrifying, like some bad movie villan mixed with some single white female energy. Shudders 😬
Yes yes yes. I heard it too. Tht truly is not right those jurors needs to head that type
I agree that it makes her look bad but the audio makes someone else looks very bad the DOCTOR, because he said in the recording that we would lie to the police to cover upp if they investigate . AH lawyers would use that and say he is one of the 'yes-men' and the jury would wonder if the doctor is capable to lie to the police is he also capable to lie to the court? So both sides should be very thankful that the audio isn't getting played in court because it would hurt hem both
I think her lawyers will be able to play the part where he is screaming at her before other people come in, unfortunately. So JD's lawyer's might be able to show her quotes in a redacted transcript or something?
@@victoriaselz9720 i think it cold hurt both sides if they play the audiotape because not only does it make AH look bad but it also makes one of JD's witnesses look bad because the doctor admited on tape that he would be willing to lie to the police to cover it up, the jury might ask themself if he also would be willing to lie in court
The way she recovers so quickly after getting emotional is part of borderline personality disorder. I know because I have BPD. I have these same symptoms. You can be hysterically crying one minute and in the next fine or even laughing like nothing even happened. We also lose time during arguments and fail to recall things we said or how things actually happened. In severe BPD sometimes the person doesn’t even realize they are lying. They simply remember things wrong. However if they do remember they minimalize things they did. Hence her saying I don’t remember if I threw anything. We sometimes use crying to emotionally manipulate people. This is likely why her voice remains steady. She’s acting. Sadly I’ve done it myself. This entire testimony is very consistent with borderline personality disorder. Johnny’s description of her following him around during arguments, getting extremely upset when he left, and begging him not to leave is also very consistent with BPD. These all have to do with fear of abandonment. Her dressing like Johnny is consistent with identity issues and mimicking people. How she says Johnny was either very loving or a monster is consistent with spitting. In my lay opinion, Amber has severe borderline personality disorder.
Exactly I have BPD and I’m not anywhere near being a monster. This kind of severe BPD usually happens when no treatment is sought. We can recover, but these are things you have to treat.
Thank you for sharing about your experience of BPD, I appreciate it.
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing.
My mom and my sister have it and it is so consistent that it is hard to watch but also satisfying because I feel like saying 'now people believe me." even though no one has a clue what I have been through.
kudos to you for actually trying to deal with bpd and having the self-awareness to understand these things and taking accountable. I have not met one person with a personality disorder who has ever gotten help. that is very admirable!!
Love your legal expertise.. I’m a nurse. The bruising to me on her face looks like cosmetic procedures, ie Botox injections because that’s what they appear to do when they hit a blood vessel by accident especially under her right eye area, or forehead area. The hair on the carpet looks like hair that was cut because there are no roots showing attached that it was yanked out of the scalp. Just my thoughts.
I’d love to know Emily’s take on HOW Elaine did this with a straight face.. I understand that she is a lawyer but prior to case after reviewing her photos & matching to her “wild stories”.. why she didn’t think “I cannot do this”, to real survivors. My god.
The assault she is describing would have absolutely required emergency care , she would have been cut up all over her body as well as v@ginal trauma … she would have horrible scars as well especially without medical care
The fact that people like Amber exist is terrifying
I agree. She scares me, and I'm not living with her!
And - anyone who can't see through her lies is either at risk of predation, or is a predator themselves with absolutely zero insight into their own behaviour.
“Parakeet floors”???
(Yes, I know…)
Seriously!!!
It’s really disturbing. I agree
Anyone else notice how she refers specifically to Jerry when talking about security? Convenient since he passed away and can't testify to contradict her
She NEVER knows how it starts.... she NEVER knows how it ends. It's like Johnny is just a rabid time bomb waiting to go off at any moment. It's just not realistic - especially when you've heard the tapes of HER being the aggressor and HIM trying to get away.
As someone raised by a violent mom, you know when and how it starts and ends… you’re right it’s like she has no idea of her own timeline or trying to mix in the abuse to other things
I'm so happy you've pointed out her motions when describing the altercations. She is showing the side of the abuser, I've never described an altercation while physically showing the opposite side. I can only imagine what the jury is thinking while seeing this.
And those house slippers of hers at the couch have no blood on them either. her whole tale is unbelievable. Elaine may have believed her at the beginning, but after seeing these Ben King Photos there is no way an intelligent mind would not question the lack of sliding blood marks, or her walking thru airports without discomfort, or the Kipper nightie tale without Ben King Knowing the finds or photos of it, also there would have been pieces of that phone & his testimony of replacement. A huge pack of lies, lie after lie! She's a piece of work.
I have a BPD parent, and have gone through S/A myself. AH's testimony reeks of the classic untreated-BPD "you left me so i will ruin you". So incredibly familiar to me. I believe JD was not perfect, and he said so himself. But the graphic abuse allegations, in my opinion, are false and a product of BPD/histrionics exaggeration brought about due to feelings of abandonment. I truly feel for JD, I've been on the receiving end of horrible lies (parent was a bit of an actor too), it's the worst feeling. And to have to sit there silently and watch her lie, it's torture.
one of the tapes in evidence shows bright and clear her fear of abandonment. He tells her he'll leave if he feels he is going off the rack and next thing she is bursting into tears, saying she doesn't want him to go, and eventually that it's killing her when he leaves. She sounds sincere. He proceeds into telling her to take her pills. Sounds reasonable. I think both of them were "abusive" (if you can say so because it came from illness (BPD & addiction)) but at least JD tried to leave when of course AH couldn't start to think about it & made things worse pushing him to stay... One of the rare cases where you could almost say "she caused it". At least her illness did.
ps: I hope you managed to get off of your parents influence, sounds exhausting.
I can honestly say I know that sucking feeling, I agree with you 100%
@@annabees oh, thanks for the extra context, i had missed that one!
I see a lot of the dynamics in my family that i see in their relationship, to be honest. My parent was like Amber, in the sense that they'd prefer to escalate than to let you leave. They'd go on and on in circles and we're basically screaming at you rather than having a two-way argument. It's incredibly exhausting. I empathize with JD myself in the sense that i always tried to get away when I was overwhelmed, but wouldn't be able to, and it caused me a lot of trauma and psychological issues that i had to deal with later on.. the whole thing is all too familiar, i just had to comment tbh.
And thank you for the concern, I'm safely away from their influence for a few years now, and feeling a lot better 😊
@@purple1480 Hope you are well, sorry to hear this happened to you too
So sorry this happened to you. I have a BPD sister and the fear of abandonment makes her crazzzzzzyyyy
If her hair was ripped out of her scalp WHY tf is there no dried blood on her scalp?? My ex ripped all the hair out of the right side of my head and my scalp was bloody, my hair was completely knotted, my mom had to comb it out in the tub as more ripped out until my right side was completely bald. There was a PILE of LONG hair, knotted hair- not a few short pieces that look like they were cut off. If her hair was pulled out of the scalp it would be long, complete pieces of hair… not small pieces. I just can’t with this BISH. On behalf of ALL DV VICTIMS- (male and female and including myself)… I TRULY TRULY HATE HER. Where are the broken blood vessels in her “black eyes “?? Why are the not swollen? SHE NEEDS TO STOP!!!!
Let me first send you love and light beloved🪬💜🦋🙏🏽…”the memories”…”the imprint”…the months I his away in a DV shelter literally afraid to even come out of that small room, blinds and drapes drawn closed…The very fact that this entitled woman has used this so called “movement” (that’s a whole other story🤨IMHO;) to further her destruction of this man is just vile. So many women and men have been fractured in toxic relationships. But AH has decided because she wants to “possess” JD and if he won’t submit she will destroy; and a lot of vulnerable people actually believe her narcissistic narrative.
I'm with you!
I’m so sorry that you experienced this awful violence. ☹️😡🙏 her lies are obvious. This event will bring us survivors together and help us heal.
After listening to the audio of after the Australia incident, it's clear that everyone there knew she'd caused JD's injury and they weren't surprised. The weird thing is that amber recorded that audio. It puts her testimony in a whole new light.
100%
No, she doesn’t talk about the feelings. She talks about the visuals, as one might if one is imagining it as a movie scene, and didn’t actually live through it. Although, she does seem kind of obsessed with how she appears to others, so that might play a role in her framing.
Yes! I thought the same thing
I was thinking that the way she describes this feels a lot like scenes/visuals of a movie. The detail about the dirty carpet definitely felt like a director zooming in on the face of an actress staring at this dirty carpet as something awful happens to her, for example. The 'i didn't see johnny anymore it was all black, his eyes were all black' and "i was looking for him in there" feels very cinematic/right out of a book.
@@kayfelker8268 yes, I had the exact same association. She repeatedly reached a kind of crescendo, then paused for one beat. I kept thinking “yes, if this was a movie, that’s how you would tell it. The pause would allow the music to soften and the camera to pull in close”
She also begins almost every sentence with “I remember…” so the audience hears that it’s a recollection. That’s a strategy; her team probably told her to say that
@@kayfelker8268 what she said she didn’t see him anymore and it was all black I was like -wait did she lose her sight? I thought she couldn’t see Johnny anymore because she was literally seeing black! I must’ve missed the word “eyes”.
My ex when drunk and scary would have black eyes. No color. It was terrifying. I hope she is lying bc it would suck to be telling the truth and the world doesn’t believe you.
I was being gaslit for years by someone and apologised to them constantly (I was never abusive, but I was erratic and moody and emotional) - I apologised because he made me think I was the problem and I didn't realise the games he was playing - until I saw a therapist and she said I seemed rational and well adjusted and soon after I began putting it all together. Depp apologising doesn't hold much weight based on Heard's actions. It only makes me think that he thought and believed he was the abuser because that was what she made him believe.
You are spot on!
Yep all those recordings proved how effectively she gaslit and confused him.
I even started to feel confused and bewildered and hopeless listening to her endless manipulations and twists and riot acts she forced upon him in those recordings.
They’re so disturbing
Remember: In Australia she had sliced up feet, cuts in her arm and was bleeding out of her private parts. She got no medical attention and one day later she sat on a plane reading a book, checked into the Hotel Chateau Marmont in LA, asked her assistent to bring her a bikini and was sitting by the pool with her friends. I wish I was that invincible.
And according to the nurse who met her after the flight she was happy, socializing, and had a good appetite….
Yes and she says “he has me up against the throat”. No bruising at all. I was knocked up the first time pretty good and spent the next day in bed instead of going to a Christmas parade. I was sore and my muscles hurt from the hole thing and emotionally I was shutting down.
I got my hand free then had to back track because she’d said nothing about him having her hand.
And she bought the relationship advice book at Sidney airport, right?
But someone just claimed, you can not buy any books there, don't know if that is true, even if there is a store there, this is such a silly and childish manipulation.
Like we would all sit there and feel empathy for this great woman working on her relationship right away after going through that abuse..
She’s got those Aquamon powers
It is absolutely BIZARRE how she kept repeating the same thing over and over as if she couldn't move on. I know people who have been SA'd, myself included, dread saying the hardest parts, but whenever I talk to anyone about it I'm basically bracing myself to say those hard parts from the beginning, and then try to say them quickly and move on. And I definitely don't repeat those parts multiple times.
She is so very detailed about the most insignificant details like floors, and landscapes but can’t complete 1 full comprehensive sentence about 1 alleged abuse scenario.
"impressionistic"
Regardless, security wouldn’t allow this attack since they have to protect Johny from himself if necessary. This woman is such an insult to the real domestic violence victims. Her behavior is shameful and repulsive.
She said she was having a lot of pressure in her pelvic area with a bottle she wouldn’t be able to walk sorry she made no sense she may need medical attention she talks in circles is she got aphasia she talks like a robot so isn’t something doesn’t add up
I'm sorry but security seem to have been a joke: They didn't stop fingertips from flying, windows and things to be smashed, bottles to be thrown, paintings to be ruined etc - no matter who dit it the security were nowhere to be found. I would seriously had fired them and demand the money back
@@maryday9351 I agre with you, so far nothing supports her claim about sexual violence(but her testimony isn't over yet and we haven't hear all other witnesses yet so I reserve the right to change my opinion) If she had stuck to the verbal and emotiopnal abuse it would have been enough since JD's own textmessages and the audiorecordings support that, but there has been no real proof of sexual or physical violence so far
@@karatekaninen3045 I'm very curious about that as well. So far I tend to assume that on private property the security was not right around but waiting in another, close-by, building.
I mean, we saw the pictures of the place, it looks very secluded, enough in my opinion that JD doesn't need security at ear shot for maximum reaction.
Again I'm assuming and I would love some clarification about where that security was and why it wasn't able to intervene.
@@nejaahalcyon Yeah.. I mean I understand that they are not psychic and can prevent everything before it happens, but flying fingertipps(he most have screamed out iof the pain( bottles that got smashed against the wall, her screaming too, the whole place being smashed up.. I just don't understand why they didn't do anything sooner? because what is the point with secuirty if they are not close enough to hear if something is wrong or, and this is not goo for AH or JD, they were used to them fighting and smashing things or had been told not to intervene, that is why I want to hear the full clip so we can hear thei rreactions when they got there, and when they got there.
There is an audiotape claiming to be uncensoured but it's not and it annoys me, dont lie sayign its unsencoured when we all can hear that its not.
This is truly shameful, Christy Mack was brutally assaulted within an inch of her life around the same time, 2014 or 2015 if I remember correctly and the pictures and evidence of her injuries were hard to digest. This woman had to have reconstructive surgery/dental surgery, I mean the whole works because she was pummeled within an inch of her life meanwhile Amber’s injury are nothing in comparison. It truly is disgusting if she is making this up.
Maria Nemeth was murdered and disemboweled by her boyfriend with a bottle around the same time this happened too and the absolute worst most disgusting part of amber's lies are the stories she co-opted without even knowing one thing about the gravity of what she is talking about. As a DV and SA survivor myself, I'm insulted. Absolutely repulsive thing to lie about
there is a twist for sure why she doesnt have any scars despite dragging her face through a sea of broken glasses....legend says....she has a healing power lmao..
She is absolutely making this up, it is not physically possible for any these things to happen and no medical records of it no way in hell never
She is
That's what you're drinking for lunch not me.
She also spends a lot of time looking directly at the jury and sweeping her eyes back and forth while sobbing and describing awful humiliating things. That's not the way anyone I know would react to crying in public and not how recounting these things would happen.
Johnny wouldn’t be suing her for $50 million if he was guilty of any sexual crime against AH. There’s no way a very popular man like JD would open the door to the implications she brought if he was guilty of doing them.
I can totally see her being into aggressive sexual encounters and to each their own if everyone is consenting adults.
Agreed
Her testimony goes against all evidence, all the previous testimonies (exceptionally the previous one). Her words and expressions goes totally against her posture of the previous weeks. The way she looks at the jury and her over emotional speech just shows she's not genuine and is trying to build up a character.
🔍 And here are some important and relevant points when it comes to this trial:
- Where are the witnesses of the plane fight?
- Where are the witnesses of the cottage when they were eating muchrooms?
- If she has PTSD how does she remembers so many details?
*addendum*: Actually, according to some experiences shared in the comment section, there are many victims with PTSD that remember the details. Anyway, let's see what Amber will show us next.
- She gave Johnny a knife (lol).
- She married him even after so many years of horrendous abuse (which is also a pattern observed in some toxic relationships where there's codependency, but the same could be said about Johnny, that was undeniably abused by her).
- It is logically and obviously impossible for her not to have recorded nor taken pictures of her "punched" face (that, according to her, happened frequently). *That fact gets more relevance since she has recorded johnny sleeping, drunk and screaming BUT NEVER he punching her or her bruised face.* (That would be the least she could do).
- NOBODY has testified that they have seen a bruise on her (that's absolutely relevant when it comes to the cross exams).
- She's acting just like what Dr. Curry has explained. (What is not intelligent if she wanted to prove her wrong).
- We shall not forget the lie about Milani makeup (at the opening statement). *bizarre, please guys*
- At the begging of her testimony, she said the same exact phrases from a movie (I recommend searching for it).
- Her lawyers were manifestably and unapologetically rude and have NOTHING as an actual evidence, which was so clear in the past couple weeks. If they did, the case would be already over. (👨🏻⚖️ Hearsay I guess)
- There is a lot of *factual* evidence against Amber, but she probably won't enter into those details cause she apparently doesn't take responsibility for any.
⭕️ And the most important thing: if Johnny had something to hide, he would never fight for an open and public trial, which he did.
It's so obvious and painful to watch.
Ps: just wanted to add that Amber has met secretly with Johnny even after the protective order against him, by her own will. However, today after her testimony she acted like she was afraid of him when he was about to leave the room.
Hope Johnny's Team can bring up an excellent and thoughtful cross examination.
Wish you all the best. ✨
You're awesome for spelling all this out! It's painful to watch her lie about abuse that actually happens to people. It's disgusting because she has been described by so many people as being mean, rude, and abusive to JD, her sister, and her staff. The pictures and even her evidence don't support her story.
I agree. Some of these points can be true in their own, but the combination is very unlikely.
Her wife got the one witness from the plane dismissed by forging a tweet and setting the judge up to ask her about it. She was no doubt going to call bullshit
Yes i agree.
- Were is the pictures of cut feet?
-were are the obsessive jealous texts from Johnny?
- were is the blood smeres ON the floors from cut feet?
-she has broken her nose twice yet No medical record of anything?
-everybody has Said she didnt wear any makeup or very natural. If she had bruises. That makeup have had to be thic. IT would be noticable.
-if she didnt have anything to hide, why has she not handed in her phone for evidence? And metadata?
@@stinehansen191 perfect! I guess I'll even edit my previous comment! 😮
JD's team should play the December 2015 James Cordon video showing Amber with NO injuries to her face, even though she claims she had a split lip, broken nose, hair ripped out of her head, and black eyes.
Concealer can’t cover a split lip especially when speaking.
They need to depose her former makeup artist for that night. She said there were no bruises on her face.
They will
I'm worried bc they ended their case, without bringing this out, the video.
I'm hoping they do on the cross exam. That seems like the most strategic time to show it
I purposely avoided this day of testimony when it was live, but with your humor & comments it was easier to watch. I always try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but her quick switch from panic to calm and the lack of tears was an absolute insult to anyone that's ever faced real abuse
Give that man a medal for sitting through so many hours of these lies and having the wherewithal to keep his mouth shut and his face so controlled. I honestly don't know if I could.
I think that, alone, speaks volumes for his personality and ability to be in control of himself (at least while sober, which I know is part of the issue).
I would have had to walk out because it got more ludicrous
If I was Johnny, I would have needed to be removed from the courthouse. I would be too disgusted to sit there and take in her crap
Even while intoxicated those endless recordings showed his amazing self control. That’s why she’d try to trick him into saying things she could twist around, because even with all those recordings SHE was clearly the aggressor and abuser.
Hysterical crying at points, but no red eyes, no running nose, no sniffling, not a single tear. (I WAS WRONG HERE, PLEASE READ MY EDIT.) That, as well as the mild injuries in the evidentiary photos juxtaposed against the brutal, horrific story she told, are the biggest things I can't get over. Honestly, I felt really guilty while watching this. The picture she painted was absolutely gut-wrenching, and it feels gross that I can't bring myself to believe it.
EDIT: After rewatching parts of the testimony from a higher quality video, it's clear to me that she shed tears during several parts, including a full tear down her cheek when describing hiding bruises in her backless dress during an award ceremony, and very wet eyes during the testimony about the SA with the bottle. KCianci was the one who pointed it out, and they are absolutely right. I'm really sorry for making that remark. I'm leaving my original comment up unedited for the record, but I was definitely wrong, and I'm pretty ashamed of it. I obviously need to look at my own biases here and re-evaluate what I think about the case. Don't get me wrong, so much stuff doesn't add up or make sense to me... but I was definitely stupid and wrong about this.
Agree.
Yes! And she wants us and jury believe that after such brutal assault she didn't go to have medical check-up? Like, right after? But the day-ish after she went home with King that haven't seen anything except some scratches on arms. The only thing that she had done (ever) was concussion check-up and nurse said that there was nothing. Also I can't believe that after so many broken noses hers looks so good (also - if you're actress that lives of pretty face wouldn't you go to surgeon to make sure that it heals properly?). I wasn't watching her, just listening, and at some moments she sounded believable, but the "I don't remember. I wish I remebered, but now let me describe you every single detail of the situation, carpet included" threw e off every single time.
This... I feel this but my reaction in the end is disgusted rage that this maybe didn't happen at all and she's using other people's stories.
This! This is exactly how I was feeling while listening.
@@bakaichigo I'm sorry I don't believe her at all. JD rings would live marks also in her OWN recordings SHE is the aggressive one.
I do believe he probably had to restrain her at times.
She's either the world's worst liar, or the world's worst truthteller.
You don't often see people that suck at telling the truth.
“Parakeet floors” at 43:45 is still so funny to me 😂 she obviously meant parquet floors, and didn’t know how to pronounce the word from her own made up story.
Maybe they parakeets pictures on them lol.
Ben Chew's face during AH's fake breakdown was all of us.
Which time please as she "cries" always
@@TVdalia 1:10:36 ...her "big scene" 🙄
Did you see Ben Chew's low key middle finger to Amber? It was GOLD
Ben Chew is legal credibility gold.
Also did anyone else notice Amber bumping coke on the stand?
Her disgust over the food being in places is more believable than her talking about her DV/SA ..... She needs to be institutionalized.
Nobody knows anything for sure except those 2. Both are innocent until proven guilty of something.
And I don't care about some meaningless government legal bullshit definition of the words "guilty" or "innocent".
I mean initiating mathematically quantifiable scientifically testable harm and injustice.
Institutionalized?!?! Get a grip and take a moment to think about what you are saying. Her behavior is abhorrent, but would you say the same thing about a non-celebrity behaving in the same way.
@@momva2kids981 yes
one of the hardest things to believe is that level and severity and frequency of these abuses. We're not talking pushes and shoves, we're talking belligerent drunken madness with broken bottles and broken tables and punches with some rather large rings. However, the pure lack of injuries sustained from such horrific descriptions is not believable. Let's all remember Rhianna and Chris Brown.... I don't care how much makeup you put on, you are not covering that level of abuse up for at least a week.
And apparently Johnny beat her so bad so it should be worst than riri
100% !!! That is what I am convinced of. She is so drastically exaggerating his behavior that it's inconceivable in the context of everyone else's testimony. There is NO WAY he actually did this stuff after a lifetime without any of these behaviors. In addition, if she's supposedly skilled enough with applying makeup to hide all marks or bruises, it stands to reason that all her acting experience also taught her how to use makeup to CREATE the appearance of bruises, as well!
And yet despite all the broken bones and constant beatings every audio recording you hear "stay Johnny. Just stay. Dont leave me." I would think you would want someone who's beating you that badly to be on a whole different continent, not the same room as you.
Oh yeah, she testifies that she tries to escape, he won't let her leave... Yet in the recording she is says, "you always leave in the first 3 seconds of an argument".
@@Neyagrl You hit the nail on the head right here. She so overly exaggerated her injuries and the abuse she said she received as to be unbelievable.
My apologies if this has already been addressed. I’m trying to figure out why the fact that her drinking habits, (2 bottles of wine 🍷 per day), would act as a blood thinner. Therefore, her bruising would be considerably worse than someone who isn’t drinking. With her habits, the blood would be faster to pool under the skin, causing really bad swelling and bruises with minimal force!
Chat also pointed out that when she testifies to broken glasses and spilled alcohol around the house, it's all wine. She repeatedly states that Johnny was on liquor.
@@redisthecoolestcolourI’m on replay crew for this one and didn’t watch the chat. Thanks for the FYI! Your so right! If Johnny was drinking straight Rum 🍹 or something, please do explain why only her wine bottles we’re laying around! Good point!
As another woman, I don’t know how she thinks we were going to buy the bottle story. You know every V in that room clenched in phantom pain during her testimony and she was walking straight afterward? She’s full of it.
And didn't think of it the next day. And the trial is the worst thing that's ever happened to her.
The bottle thing was so bizarre. I can barely watch it. 😖 Don't bottles have that metallic ring that's left behind from unsrewing the top? That alone would tear you up really seriously!
The motions she made for the bottle incident could not have possibly happened because of where and how she said she was pinned down on the bar. The trajectory could not be possible, I don’t think.
If it was broken she would probably be dead and if it wasn’t, she would probably be dead from internal bleeding from suction from the bottle.
@Ashley FINALLY!!! I’ve been waiting to see if I were the only one to have thought about suction! She said it was ‘back and forth’ and ‘repeatedly’. That one scenario confirmed she was making shit up.
This judge has been INCREDIBLY lenient with “Elaine” not to mention the “Hughes” fiasco. I know some judges where I am at that would not take so kindly to “Elaine’s” argumentative statements once she has ruled.
yea seriously shes the only lawyer I've seen get objected to, have it sustained and then be all "but your wrong" then try to ask the question differently
She’s the defense attorney I dislike the most (although they’re all fairly unlikeable) and that’s the primary reason. Responding to opposing counsel’s objections with unprofessional retorts like, “No it isn’t,” “How is that hearsay?” etc. instead of providing a legal justification and acting offended like it’s not their _job_ to object, same as hers. Disrespecting the judge’s rulings both verbally - “Well _I_ don’t think so,” and nonverbally - huffing, throwing up her hands and signaling through body language that only an idiot would disagree with her. Repeatedly trying to submit that one piece of evidence after the judge said it couldn’t come in. Her entire opening statement, in which she appeared to be testifying on AH’s behalf. Her cross of Paul Bettany when she asked “You didn’t hear him say [very explicit offensive statement]? You didn’t hear him call her [explicit offensive name]?” etc. after he testified he hadn’t heard JD shout anything. (I don’t know if that’s considered okay from a legal standpoint, but I felt like she quoted those statements - which no one had testified to hearing yet - just to make the jury dislike JD for allegedly saying them.
All the stupid makeup questions - if someone says AH didn’t appear to be wearing _any_ makeup, asking if she was wearing blush, concealer, foundation, mascara, etc. feels like badgering to me. Also, asking what brand or shade AH uses, as if it’s possible to tell and you _must_ know in order to determine if she’s wearing any. And let’s not forget the condescending attitude towards opposing counsel’s witnesses (unless they’re also a female lawyer, apparently; she was a lot more respectful toward JD’s divorce attorney) vs. the over-exaggerated sympathy, borderline sucking up and coaching/leading questions when she interacts with her own. I expect a shift in tone between the two, but is it necessary to be _that_ rude?
Wow, this turned into a HUGE anti-Elaine rant. Sorry about that! I think her doing the direct reminded me of all the things she’s done I didn’t like. I’m sure she’s a nice person in real life. Guess I just needed to vent.
@@puzzledotgamer5461 Seriously. My late husband was a criminal defense attorney and at least in a criminal trial I don't believe he would have argued with the judge. Perhaps this is common in a civil trial? I'm not familiar with their operations. I think it makes "Elaine" look badly.
@@kkheflin3 I dont think it is common because with all the Lawyers there I think a total of 4 including Elaine only she's arguing with the Judge. Even heards other lawyer isn't doing it so I think it's only Elaine and her inner Karen at play.
@@puzzledotgamer5461 I also dislike Rottenbone (or whatever his name is.) I can't put my finger on it....I think it is just his tone when he speaks. Something just makes him dislikable. But they aren't trying to win a personality contest I guess...That being said the jury is made up of people such as us so I suspect her attorneys are not going to play well in front of the jury with their "style."
OMG. I just saw those photos of AH's "alleged" injuries. My heart goes out to you real victims of DV. My whole heart.
She should definitely be using hand sanitizer. She’s wiping her nose w her hand.
Even when she's sobbing she makes sure to look to the jury. That's so strange
*Here are my observations*
- Usually abusive partners isolate you from your friends and family. They dont offer them beautiful penthouses right next to you 🙄 Pretty sure if I plan to beat the crap out of my partner I don't want her sister and best friend right next door while I do it lol
- NO MEDICAL RECORDS!!!! Of any kind for ANY THING. Feet cut to shreds but NO BLOOD SMEARS on the floor. Only drops. Is she going to say the English man cleaned AROUND drips and JUST cleaned her blood?
- According to her, she went through a horrible, painful, humiliating sexual assult....but then is heard on tape saying she doesn't want to leave him? Come on....I'm a woman....lots of woman here. I KNOW ABUSED WOMEN.....who don't leave....even THEY have a line...and that would of been it.
- She is SMART ENOUGH to record him, take "photos" so she can gather PROOF.....but doesn't think to go to a doctor or a police officer to get an official RECORD of injuries and damage 🙄
- When mentioning ANY interaction with security during one of these assults.....she ONLY MENTIONS the security guard who of coarse is now passed away and can not testify against her 😳
She’d have extensive injuries after these attacks. She’s actually a sociopath. Gawd! I hope this highlights how dangerous these people are to go anywhere near.
These people? None of the disorders she's been diagnosed with are inherently dangerous. She was never diagnosed as having anti-social personality disorder. There's nothing to highlight.
The "I loved him so much" and fake tears is killing me. She so OVERLY descriptive even after stating that she can't remember everything.
Those acting skills are kicking in.
@@lexiwhatshername3162 good for us she is quite a bad actress!
D-tier..
She says “I’m trying to remember” a bunch for each story but remembers the floor type? She remembers a lot for having trouble remembering 🫢
Perhaps she was hoping that Johnny would retract the case lmao in her dreams 🤣
I've never seen anyone cry so hysterically, and yet have their voice remain so steady. No cracking, nothing.
I suffered a lot of different kinds of abuse as a child and her "testimony" is so angering. People like her make such a mockery of abuse victims.
You're ok with him texting Paul Bettany that he wanted to burn, drown, and sexually abuse the corpse of Amber, before they were even married because, he says, she wanted him to get sober? You ok withhim texting that his "monster" took it too far again and he needed help and apologies for hurting her on a plane. You ok with a middle aged man throwing things down the stairs, smashing glass and cupboards in a violent intoxicated rage. He apologizes to her and to her family for hurting her. He told Elton John that his ex was an extortionist French c**t that will turn the kids against Amber. Pattern of misogyny. He admits and apologizes to Amber for being crazy jealous and controlling just as Jennifer Grey says he was. He told his friend that he throws all his rage at the one he loves and is too old for continuing this behavior and needs help. You cool with this?? The excuses and blinders to Depp's behavior is sickening
She is a victim. It was proved in uk court 2 years ago.
I had child abuse too. My therapist said almost all people who suffer from abuse most of their lives have great and photographic memories and cannot forget their abuse, they see it in their mind often exactly as it happened. MePoo goes on and on how she can't remember, only sees flashes, "remembers" details later. If you have a poor memory, you forget any abuse. Narcissists have horrible memories.
It seems highly, HIGHLY, unlikely that a victim of such horrific sexual assault is able to tell her story for the first time by facing the jury the ENTIRE time while talking. Usually sexual assault victims don't make direct eye contact like when reliving their trauma. Also no signs whatsoever of swollen red eyes for the remaining time of her testimony. If I have an emotional crying episode, my eyes go puffy and all red. And it takes a good half hour or longer before that disappears again.
Usually a trauma victim would absolutely need a break very shortly after from sharing all for the first time, to gather themselves. Amber has zero problems talking further about the paintings. Again, no indication of breathing/anxiety issues, puffy eyes nor other signs of great distress.
Her voice remains stable because it is all 100% a lie. I wonder, when proving the lie during cross exam, if Johnny could decide to sue her for false rape allegations.
Her accusations are very very damaging and to expose her lies should be taken very serious!
☝ This! All of it. 100%. 👏👏👏
Correct because its embarrassing to talk like this in public, and the shame....
All good points. I was really thrown by the eye contact of jury. I felt shame and embarrassment about my assault experiences. I often give eye contact but not when I discuss my assault experiences. Plus who still cares about their partner after such a violent attack.
Even more... no one goes through all of that and pops 2 sleeping pills and goes to sleep while still in the same 4 walls as the perp.
This. Did. NOT. Happen.
Oh she tried with the labored breathing, but it came off as so artificial. Would had been better if she hadn’t attempted it at all.
This sounds like a desperate woman not knowing what else to do to take this man down who dared to walk away from her…I hope the jury see, hear and feel what we’re all experiencing here from watching this…the cross examination is going to be very interesting
That’s exactly what I see, she’s scorned. Outrageously furious that he wanted out of the relationship
Yes yes yes
I swear it’s funny that when my abusive narcissistic father knocked my mom out one night during an argument when she filed divorce he went and tried to claim my mother was on meth and fucking other men and that he had to get out of the situation. The funny part was that my father was the one who was in fact on meth, cheating, and my mom had to get out. Narcissistic abusers tell on themselves all the time because they sit there and make up shit in there head flipping there own actions into scenarios where their spouse is doing what they are doing. Then they blow up
@@laurenliz2219 Yes! Seen that WAY too many times in my own Mother! Took me years to see it & recognize it! But I did & when I was listening to the audio Incredibly Average put all of it together in 1 place & within the 1st 20min I heard pretty much all I needed to hear. It reminded me very much of conversations w\my Mother. Fights I witnessed my Mother having w\1 of her 9 husbands & OMG countless boyfriends! So, it was triggering!
I’m confused did she just claim he rape her with a wine bottle. Because if that’s so she wouldn’t be able to walk and need medical care
I am rewatching this and I don't think JD was making a "power move". He wasn't even paying attention. I think AH acted "scared" because she saw JD walking that way and wanted to make a scene...she was the one making a "power move". My opinion.
Some observations:
1. The constant eye contact with the jury doesn't seem to read as genuine so much as pleading.
2. JD's lack of eye contact/behavior while she's on the stand is very reminiscent to me of abuse victims towards their abusers. Whereas her behavior staring him down when she's on the stand when she's describing actions she claimed he committed against her reads more of intimidation, and less of brokenness.
3. She seems to be demonstrating a lot of aggression in her facial expressions (the bunching around her nose, baring of her teeth, etc.)
4. The incredibly detailed descriptions of the events seems too detailed to me, almost narrative, instead of personal traumatic memories.
Exactly the jury stare-down is attention seeking
She kept looking at JD and was getting agitated every time she did it because he would NOT look at her.
Yea and she’s an expert in flooring! How many times did she describe the flooring today
@Madolite I just hope the jury is seeing it the same way most of us are!
@@anntee9036 seeking approval and validation
Her people - as an actress wouldn’t she have a regular person giving her beauty treatments (facials, laser, injections etc) or makeup artists or hairstylists who would regularly see her up very close and would notice facial injuries and could link it back to appointment diaries??
That’s what I was thinking about the Mordecai story. I looked at her pictures from premier and she looks like she was put together with hair and makeup. No one noticed?
Yes, i agree that more trauma nurses/doctors and estheticians should comment about sustaining these physical injuries, their mechanism and the physical effects of it. I do not believe her then and now w this testimony even less.
Some of the "bruises" appear to be from botox injections.
So, he told her repeatedly he was going to kill her, was beaten up, thrown into walls and counter tops and penetrated with a bottle and then went to bed and took sleeping pills?? Didn’t leave the house, call a friend, security, police or an ambulance?? Got up the next morning and didn’t mention the pain she must have been in, how stiff and sore her body must have been in, or looking in the mirror, or examining bruises, cuts, taking photos? Didn’t mention how painful it must have been to go to the bathroom or difficulties walking? Decided to go walk around the house? Didn’t call a friend, security or emergency services again? And why didn’t the Nurse take photos, call police or take her to the hospital? Unbelievable!
Yes, I'm rather impressed by her super powers of recovery, I was punched one in the face by my ex and looked like I'd been hit by a truck and had a fractured skull, if one blow can do all that damage, she would have emergency treatment. She's just so full of it!
Fantasyland 😒
Because AH is living in a fantasy world where things didn't happen as she's recalling it!!!
@@bubblycider this is my exact issue with her testimony having been raped myself it's not the bumping but the stretching of the orifice
Yuuuuup!!!! All of this.
Yes, I am here months after the verdict. Each time I watch her on the stand, I notice more that I didn’t catch the first time, and I get more angry. She was the ex hell-bent on revenge, not Depp, in my opinion.
when i first watched the trial live i didn’t really *watch* it, just listened to it while working/cleaning/painting etc. coming back to watch it the second time i’m realizing just how on and off her emotions were…it’s completely jarring. i remember seeing people talking about it but i never really realized just how ridiculous it was. the hysterical “crying” to an immediate stone cold straight face when there’s an objection…very uncanny to me. it’s clear she was “playing the role” of a victim, and her acting really is quite awful
Girl !!! Same!!! I’m at her bogus pictures right now. This chick got some Botox and had a coldsore and made a story up . This is so unbelievable and I’m so angry all over again.
@@cleobinx Me too.