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He can't comprehend why people are being good without his god. Lol
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my mom asked me to get baingan to make bharta and I kept lying on the bed. I am a bad person because I am doing harm to myself as my action made my mom beat me with chappal. I think I discovered a god today, I call the religion Momism.
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I am good man because I am eat my food not others food 😔😂
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It is painful to watch the reasoning of "Silver" and "Golden" given by the caller just so he can establish the 'Superiority' of his beliefs and God...while forgetting the fact that 'Doing Good' has never been an invention of religion but an idea hijacked by it.
Religion is just human understanding of moral values in organized form. And by your logic, if humans are the source of moral values then a organizing set of beliefs in moral values is not hijacking, just codifying.
@@avinashshinde1635 If you don't need religion to be Moral but Morality is something thats already present in human nature, then preaching any bullshit religion in a name of Morality is Hijacking.
Consider this analogy
If i steal your TV, wrap it up in my packaging and sell it back to you. Would you buy it?
If your answer is No...then thats exactly what i meant about religion and morality it tries to sell.
If your answer is Yes...well then there is no bigger fool in the world than you.
@@avinashshinde1635no religion is a tool to control humans, it pollutes morals
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Anrej ke leli bhai ne 😂😂
I am good that's why I am God 😅
Apart from this funny evidence I liked that you added subtitles here.
Each questions answered so logically!🙌.. One of the best Videos
In simple words, Jesus was a good guy but can't protect children from being harmed by bad people !
I would raise C.S. Lewis one more option to make it a quadralemma (or a tetralemma) instead. He could've been a 'Legend', an existent or non-existent human being, whose life's story has been embellished to mythological proportions.
The caller should watch "The Man from Earth"
sir log aap se bat kaise kar pate hai agar mai karana chahu to kya kar sakta hu please bataiye mere bhi man me aise kai questions ghum rahe hai please bataiye
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morality is not evidence.
The conversation was at cross purposes. Vimoh was not replying to the caller's queries. He was generalizing his responses. The golden rule can be argued as something that Immanuel Kant's refers to as the categorical imperative. When the caller asked about examples where this was used other than the bible, Vimoh s reply was that communities survived using that principle. That's a form of generalization rather than pointedly referring to any particular text, like Kant's principle, as a meaningful reply.
How does it matter? It's irrelevant. Vedas have so many golden rules, probably nowhere written before, also much older than cute little Bible. How does that enforced "originality" (cause we don't know who said them first ) makes the person God ?
good stuff
My mom taught me to be good with people
Lord, Liar, Lunatic or mythologised human being (Legend).
2:01 is he talking about the author of Narnia series?
Yes
End goal of any civilization is to become god. God is the start, god is the end.
Diogenes was one
His argument of golden rule sounds like a confirmation bias
Definitely he has the fake most accent... Besides having delusional thought process & belief system
How is it a fake accent?
He is an american
huh?! Come on man, just because of the fact that this "Yeshua" was a "moral" teacher, doesnt mean they can't be mentally abnormal. Its like saying "Good people (whatever they are) can never be mentally ill(or have tendencies of those kinds)" when in fact they are unrelated
If I am right the caller was saying that 'don't do harm' is not the same as 'do good'.
If each 'sentence' is taken on its own, sure... not every sentence have exactly same meaning as the others. But there is always implications among different sentences.
For example,
If your mom says "Don't go to school" ...the direct implication of that sentence is "Stay at home" even though your mom didn't explicitly stated that.
Similarity,
When it is stated "don't do harm"...the implication there is "do all those things that doesn't bring harm to others"... implying "all good things"
Suggestion: Don't play idiotic word games just to satisfy your religious ego. Have some common sense, if it hasn't lost yet being a blind believer.
@@warrior_of_liberation Uncalled for aggressive reply. ‘Do good’ prompts positive action. ‘Don’t do harm’ permits smug inaction. In my view more is needed of the former, and there is too much of the latter. Of course the choice is for each person to make.
@@SUNDERTHOMAS1 If you remove all "Bad" Apples from the basket, all that remains are "Good" apples.
Religion/Religious Books determining whats "Good" has always been a tactic to hijack human morality. And no wonder Jesus didn't understand 'Slavery' was a Bad thing. Probably if he went by the idea 'don't do harm' i am pretty sure he would have seen slavery is bad thing as it brings Harm. But because Bible defines 'Good' differently...the 'Bad Apple' what slavery is... went unnoticed. 😏
So how about that?
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@warrior_of_liberation Uncalled for aggressive reply. ‘Do good’ prompts positive action. ‘Don’t do harm’ permits smug inaction. In my view more is needed of the former, and there is too much of the latter. Of course the choice is for each person to make.
These so called rules were written by men ( not recordings ) who attributed it to Jesus teachings many and many years after his death. Thereby can not be proved the exact phrases that Jesus uttered.
The same logical meaning phrases could be found in other texts. Many societies practice it due to its implications ( bartering, altruism ) without belonging to any particular religion It is like similar to saying 2+2=4 is the only golden rule not 1+3=4
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Hi @vimoh
If we lie in bed all day and don't harm others, what's wrong with that?
No animal or human does that because its nkt best suited for survival.
If you're a doctor, are you not causing harm to patients by not going to work?
Give 1 week to learn about jesus you will come to know jesus is the way the truth and the life
There are people who spend years in Christianity before leaving it.
@@vimoh but try it yourself just try praying once to jesus if he don't answer just leave him
i did.. 🙋🏻, he didn't answered and i left, if he answered yours, that means he's just biased@@unforgettable1233
Karma concept is same as golden rule right?
The conversation was at cross purposes. Vimoh was not replying to the caller's queries. He was generalizing his responses. The golden rule can be argued as something that Immanuel Kant's refers to as the categorical imperative. When the caller asked about examples where this was used other than the bible, Vimoh s reply was that communities survived using that principle. That's a form of generalization rather than pointedly referring to any particular text, like Kant's principle, as a meaningful reply.