The Hijab Debate: Should Religious Symbols be Allowed in Schools?

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  • @pinch5378
    @pinch5378 5 місяців тому +26

    I am a big fan of Vimoh but VV had better points on this one

    • @NileshKumar-nr2vj
      @NileshKumar-nr2vj 10 днів тому

      What point he had ? He said hijab not allowed rest is choice...Acc to him, you can make any random rule and people must follow it.... This is just bigotry in new form

  • @arpit.sharma
    @arpit.sharma 4 місяці тому +9

    VV's point was actually bang on & consistent. You can a) Allow the kids to wear whatever religious symbol they want, b) restrict everyone to use religious symbols or as VV said, jo karna h karo but agar restriction h to koi bhi kuch nhi pehenega

  • @thepurplebox380
    @thepurplebox380 Рік тому +79

    By VV's logic, you will also ban:
    - Christians wearing crosses
    - Brahmins wearing the janoi
    - Sikhs wearing turbans
    Additionally, most colleges in Bangalore don't have a uniform except for mandating collared shirts and trousers and many corporates will allow their employees to wear religious symbols.

    • @vancedadder
      @vancedadder Рік тому +4

      ​@@eclairsliarsdelusional "Brahmins" always looking for an excuse to impose untouchability and caste system smh

    • @LoveYourself-my9nz
      @LoveYourself-my9nz Рік тому +27

      We can't ban it, but saying it is a choice is really wrong. People only practice it because of grooming. Any parda prtha is bad and degrading.

    • @vancedadder
      @vancedadder Рік тому +9

      @@LoveYourself-my9nz not true. There are adults who willingly choose to wear them. If it's not forced and they have no qualms wearing it, it definitely is a choice

    • @veracity5412
      @veracity5412 11 місяців тому +13

      @@vancedadder adults who wear it were groomed in their childhood. If as an adult you were introduced to the concept of religion and you chose to convert to it and wear those religious attires, then yes, we can say it's a choice.

    • @vancedadder
      @vancedadder 11 місяців тому +5

      @@veracity5412 you're being presumptuous of adults, just saying

  • @AchhaAchha1
    @AchhaAchha1 7 місяців тому +72

    Actually VV is right here......when an institution makes a *rule* about something then we have to abide by the rules if we have be a part of that institution.

    • @superr_heroes
      @superr_heroes 6 місяців тому +15

      That's true but unfortunately those same institutes celebrate hindu festivals and If schools try to celebrate Christmas then some people destroy school property.🤣🤣🤣

    • @AchhaAchha1
      @AchhaAchha1 6 місяців тому +3

      @@superr_heroes yes this is true as I have seen this is my younger sister's school....

    • @shy.4m_xsa
      @shy.4m_xsa 5 місяців тому

      @@superr_heroes look i think a uniform code and celebrating festivals are different thing....school authorities concerned was that girls were wearing jihab and I think if a hindu boy come in school with saffron kurta school authorities still wouldn't allow it

    • @bruhhh8570
      @bruhhh8570 5 місяців тому

      ​@@superr_heroesthen they are not secular. We are talking about secular institution.

    • @imindian00
      @imindian00 5 місяців тому

      Simple you should say and make rules that dogs from other societies are not allowed....

  • @abhishekpratapnigam
    @abhishekpratapnigam 8 місяців тому +12

    Hijab has overtime become a way of asserting their identity for a lot of women

  • @Trend4ubro
    @Trend4ubro 5 місяців тому +22

    You are unbiased atheist, i am not agree with your points about god but i think you are honest about your claim , i see lots of hindu people call themself atheist and raise the questions about discriminatory rituals of another religion but when it comes to Hinduism they start to defending it with extreme efforts and if and buts.

    • @atintripathi5948
      @atintripathi5948 4 місяці тому +3

      @@Trend4ubro and his follower athiest hindu call to real hindu to insults make fun of god

    • @Trend4ubro
      @Trend4ubro 4 місяці тому

      @@Sayyad5372I watched him his content is very good about islamic views ,and he debunks rss agenda on gharwapsi and exmuslim sponsored by rss .

  • @skpaanda
    @skpaanda Рік тому +44

    Most of the govt schools in Odisha do celebrate Ganesh puja, Saraswati Puja as it's a Hindu majority 97% state!

    • @prasantapandaprasanta8824
      @prasantapandaprasanta8824 7 місяців тому +9

      Schools mejority hindu peoples too ...if they are not intrested than not to attend. School in Saraswati Pooja nobody force them ....but wearing hijab in school is redicules

    • @rashidrazakhan9153
      @rashidrazakhan9153 7 місяців тому +8

      ​@@prasantapandaprasanta8824how it is ridiculous, no one is forcing you to wore it, that's muslim people choice do they want to wear it or not.

    • @rashidrazakhan9153
      @rashidrazakhan9153 7 місяців тому +4

      ​@@prasantapandaprasanta8824nothing in my eyes are ridiculous niether the tika nor saari nor kurta. But for someone reason school wants to everyone to wore same cloth an identity kind of thing that's ok

    • @Hetvasava-um5qv
      @Hetvasava-um5qv 4 місяці тому

      @@rashidrazakhan9153 this is hindu country …. this land had hindu origins not muslims … u are the invader here … if u don’t like hindus just leave … to your arab mecca

    • @onasunnyday366
      @onasunnyday366 4 місяці тому

      Some schools in jharkhand have cancelled the holiday of sunday and transferred it to friday... So whats ur point

  • @harsh9023
    @harsh9023 11 місяців тому +24

    I think what VV was trying to say was that ALL religious attire should be banned from all govt schools but if a privately owned school wants to not follow this rule (like madarsas, hindu schools, convent schools) then it is their choice and the parent has the option to not send their child to that school. Which i think is perfectly reasonable. (And yes i am saying banning all ghunghat, bindi, tilak, cross, hijab, bhagwa gamcha etc).
    Personally i think their should be freedom to wear whatever we choose but that has many problems too. People from poor families or from religious minorities might feel excluded. People might start flaunting the symbol of their caste like they do on vehicles.
    Also I don't quite seem to understand how Meghnad is fine with mandating uniforms in schools because it hides economical conditions of the student's family. But is not ok with banning religious symbols in school because he thinks the mentality of assuming "a person of different religion is bad" is to blame. Can't this be said for the former too ? That the mentality of assuming that "a poor person is less capable or is bad" is to blame. There seems some inconsistency in the logic.

    • @RajeevNandiMusic
      @RajeevNandiMusic 5 місяців тому +3

      I noticed the exact same holes in their logic , VV actually made sense but sadly could'nt articulate to the panel's content. Meghnad be like question the school why they are banning religious symbolism, Why should the parents care ? Doesnt getting a seat in a good school all that matters ? If everyone is wearing a uniform that represents that you are the part of that school , why be an andolan jeevi and ask why am I not allowed to wear my religious symbol ? Bhai school me padhne aa rahe ho ya comic con cosplay karne :D

    • @SOPHIUS3126
      @SOPHIUS3126 Місяць тому +1

      I actually felt the same thing when it comes to religion you are saying the hatred which arises in you is bad not the religious display ,same can be concluded to rich-poor case,like you comparing yourself with rich is bad not rich displaying it's richness

  • @Seriouslyfunny1
    @Seriouslyfunny1 4 місяці тому +4

    I think Vimoh was particularly hell bent on trying to shade VV a particular paint, whoch in my opinion isn't good.
    Countries like France and Tajikistan have banned Hijab recently. And that is not because of hatred or hypocrisy. In fact Tajikistan itself is an Islamic country.
    The most important reason being of security concerns and frauds. Even in schools, how will you ensure fairness during exams with someone in hijab ?
    Wearing a christian cross, a muslim skullcap, a sikh turban or a hindu tilak and kalawa doesn't pose as much a potential threat as hijab and niqab.
    If the hijab banning was purely because of hypocrisy, why didn't they ban skullcaps too ?

  • @user9_11
    @user9_11 4 місяці тому +9

    Meghnad was just yapping 😂 and i think vimoh doesn't get his Qn
    He was saying, if a institution has a rule which do not accept religious clothes then no one should dare to go their with religious clothes. Simple!!

  • @Viveera2024
    @Viveera2024 4 місяці тому +2

    As a hindu woman having friends from different religion and upbringing. The scarf is something that for muslims is synonymous with modesty. I personally would not like someone to force me to wear sleeveless and backless, basically outraging my modesty saying that all the other girls are wearing it.. I would feel
    Shamed and mentally assaulted . It should be my choice to wear the dress i feel modest.
    Ps. I dont think less of girls who do wear any types of clothes. They are comfortable and i am not. Thats all.

  • @Lilith_2002
    @Lilith_2002 7 місяців тому +43

    I thought people went to school for study pata nahi kab log school me religious cosplay karne lag gae.....

    • @AchhaAchha1
      @AchhaAchha1 7 місяців тому +2

      Nice😂😂

    • @shutdown9848
      @shutdown9848 6 місяців тому +7

      I feel like jab se Modi government aai h hindu aur muslim jada hi religious ho gaye h.

    • @utkarshninawe97
      @utkarshninawe97 5 місяців тому +8

      @@shutdown9848 partition, Moplah massacre, Islamic invasions, jihad ye sab BJP ki wajah se hue 😂😂😂
      Bhai tumhe jo leftists ne bataya wahi tum bol rahe ho lekin khud kuchh research karo. Communal to hai BJP lekin sab kuch thodi unhone Kiya 😂

    • @india6125
      @india6125 5 місяців тому +4

      @@utkarshninawe97 Bhai yahi dikkat hain athiest ke sath halaki main khud atheist hoon
      Ye islam or dusre religion ko 1 hi taraju main rakhke tolte hain
      Bhai inhone islam ka real roop dekha nahi hain isliye itni bakchodi pel rahe hain
      Varna islam agar koi chorta hain koi muslim to use shariyat main maut ki saza hain or hinduon main athiest charwak darhsan ko accept Kiya gaya hai
      Waqf board place of worship act pe ye kuch nahi bolenge

    • @utkarshninawe97
      @utkarshninawe97 5 місяців тому +4

      @@india6125 bilkul bhai mai bhi agnostic hu aur isme ignorance aur hypocrisy ka zyada dosh hai.

  • @shivaghade9392
    @shivaghade9392 8 місяців тому +4

    this is the best argument on the hijab pseudo news

  • @thestriker269
    @thestriker269 Рік тому +8

    Vimoh's question was legit that whether he wanted everything ,like all kind of other attires other then just what is told should be prohibited or not and he denied.
    Man look there is a school called DAV where I had studied which is based on arya samaj so there everybody irrespective of religion has to chant the morning prayers(mantras) so why put a question on the convent school as I haven't seen any Muslim or a Christian boy/girl been slightly affected with the tradition of the school.
    It's the education that matters that is given there regarding the curriculum.
    And if you really don't want any religious outfits ,prayers or other traditions then you can't be selective as no means no.
    Aur meghnad bhai hindi main bolne ki koshis krie yaar ,samne wala bhi hindi main sawal puch rha hai aur apka wo jawab Jahn apne usse pucha ki rules kyon hai was rational but I think you asked a question rather than answering as I think best answer hta ki bhai agar khin rules hai to sab follow kro aur selective hna nhi chlega eg kuch bhi nhi ka Matlab kuch bhi nhi...
    'Na rkho baans aur na bajao bansuri '😅😂

  • @WinterbourneTalkies
    @WinterbourneTalkies 4 місяці тому +4

    😂Host is again giving vage example of religious festivals in schools, mandir in bank.😂 when the caller was asking about the rule set by a school for dress code.. he was just asking why every one cant follow rule in school. why the host cant have clear answer.s ..If madrasas have rule...that their students should wear cap. Then its their management rule . If a catholic school has regulations a girl cant wear bindi..its their regulations. it is as simple as that.

  • @talibhassan652
    @talibhassan652 4 місяці тому +2

    I went to a sikh school where they used to make us sing shabad two different types. Never made sense to me but had to. Had sanskrit as a compulsory subject in class 8 and 9. Never wanted to study it. But had to. Were forced to read mahabharat. Luckily i was born in a small city and people were not communal per se. So i didnt feel that that much alienated. When i went to delhi to do my plus two the school was run by a hindu charitable trust. The students if delhi treated me like an alien. Some were nice but most were A hole always asking me have i come from Pakistan. I realised the problem is these children never interact with muslims so for them its shocking to see one and judge. Even our land lady was apprehensive. Her daughter and son in law came and said mummy ye musalmano ko aapne kaise rakh liya kiraye pe. Later when she knew us better she said she is proud of us as tenant and tells to society that all muslims are not alike. Think deeply what it means. They dont interact with muslims. Their image of muslims is based on information provided by various sources tv youtube etc. and then they see one snd get surprised and feel their notions of muslims are challenged.
    And women in our family dont wear hijab. If they did i wonder if our landlady kept the same opinion or she would have given us eviction notice?

  • @UzairAhamd-hx1pj
    @UzairAhamd-hx1pj 8 місяців тому +3

    Should festivals be celebrated in schools??

  • @momo19991
    @momo19991 4 місяці тому +1

    I agree with Vimoh! No religious symbols in schools for anyone.

  • @ranasarangi
    @ranasarangi 10 місяців тому +15

    Are u supporting parda pratha by letting them were hijab in organised sector premises

    • @justsomeone8899
      @justsomeone8899 10 місяців тому +6

      How is he supporting parda pratha, it's common logic to let women wear as they please, ofcourse you can't come to any institution wearing a bikini but then again bikini and hijab are two different things

    • @ranasarangi
      @ranasarangi 10 місяців тому +4

      @@justsomeone8899 think twice man don't white wash anything if you r real human

    • @justsomeone8899
      @justsomeone8899 7 місяців тому +4

      @@ranasarangi It's their choice to cover themselves man, it's modest in their view, we can't force down our view of what's modest what's not on them

    • @gamesong6600
      @gamesong6600 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ranasarangiparda pratha is a system right, it's not just clothes but imposition of values through clothing. You will not go out, you will not do this or that else u r a bad woman.
      Basically we need to stop imposing our values on other people in this case on women, when we thought parda is good we imposed parda on them, now we think that parda is bad we r taking it away again forcefully.
      So where is their own free will in it, in both cases we imposed what we thought is right for women. We r trying to dictate what one should or shouldn't wear just like old days.

    • @ranasarangi
      @ranasarangi 7 місяців тому +3

      @@gamesong6600 muslim kre to unka right aur hindu kre to imposed such hipocrats

  • @Mukesh-oq8dx
    @Mukesh-oq8dx 11 місяців тому +13

    Just because something is part of religion doesn't make it automatically bad. There are wonderful and horrible things in both hinduism and islam. It's totally fine to selectively ban things. I would totally support banning clothes that is symbol of oppression regardless of religion. Hijab can be banned on the ground of it being oppressive.

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  11 місяців тому +15

      And Mangal Sutra?

    • @Mukesh-oq8dx
      @Mukesh-oq8dx 11 місяців тому +22

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@vimohliveAre you really saying hijab and mangal sutra is “equally” oppressive? at the same degree?
      Probably I’m ignorant but I feel like it’s saying in order to criminalise“Sati” we have to criminalise “islamic polygamy”.
      Why existence of one bad practice justifies another terrible practice?

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  11 місяців тому +17

      @@Mukesh-oq8dx No it doesn't. But when people from one religion say ban that practice from that religion because it is patriarchal and remain silent on the patriarchy in their own religion, it's not about patriarchy. It's about the religious using patriarchy as an excuse to carry out their religious rivalry.

    • @Mukesh-oq8dx
      @Mukesh-oq8dx 11 місяців тому +21

      @@vimohlive I have not been silent, I clearly expressed it in my comment.
      to be precise, mangal sutra can be banned if they are using it assert oppressive practices and advocate patriarchy.
      But comparing it with Hijab is as dishonest. I gave an example “why”which you ignored.

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  11 місяців тому +17

      @@Mukesh-oq8dx It's oppressive because it cements the status of the woman as a possession. Men require no symbol of marriage. Hope that clears it up.

  • @ShadhikBasha
    @ShadhikBasha 5 місяців тому +2

    My response to VV....if there were rules for not showcasing any kind of religious identity..then why people wore tilak.... anklets? sindhoor? neck chains which have gods or any such things...? and if hijab was against the rules....then the first responsibility is to go to management and file a legal complaint that they are violating the rules..where in the rules of that college's management did those bhagwa guys got authority to chant and shout JSR? its a clear-cut political stunt to appease one section of the society for vote-bank

    • @atintripathi5948
      @atintripathi5948 4 місяці тому +1

      It's my culture not yours
      Your culture is from middle east😂

    • @anonymouspersonbehind5354
      @anonymouspersonbehind5354 3 місяці тому

      ​@@atintripathi5948haha funny 😂
      Niga do u even know why hijab ban is not possible in India till now
      Coz u can't brings specific hijab ban
      U can bring elimination of religious symbols
      Usme toh sikh aur Muslims fas jayenge badly 😂
      They can't really do that with sikh community that's it
      France mai in early 2000s essa kiya toh hijab wale and sikh people came to strike

  • @diy_rabbithole
    @diy_rabbithole 9 місяців тому +3

    If the sole purpose of uniform is to remove or decrease the possibility of discrimination, then religious symbology should be a part of it, because it does lead to discrimination.
    Teachers shouldn't be allowed to wear them and students shouldn't be allowed to wear them. No matter what it is. No religion should get a pass, unless it is for practical reasons like Sikhism and long hair. It's a practical necessity to wear a turban.
    Also, I haven't seen the full video yet but at around 4 minute when you pointed out that the caller had singled out islam, it isn't true. At the very beginning he made it clear that he was taking hijab as an example, but he holds the similar belief for all religions. I love that you are giving atheists like myself a voice in India, but let's be fair please. Your criticism at that point was invalid.

    • @mrexotic29
      @mrexotic29 5 місяців тому

      Exactly....I am listening to vimoh for quite a while......
      Didn't expected this from him

    • @rishimish8917
      @rishimish8917 7 днів тому

      Yupp I agree , been listening to vimoj for a long time but this time he tended to be very biased and tried to call out VV for something that he didn't claim or support. This was intellectually dishonest from vimohs side.

  • @No-thing11
    @No-thing11 Рік тому +7

    Supreme court's verdict on this matter is crystal clear and something that Vimoh & Meghnad should try to understand. :)

    • @jojo_ranjan
      @jojo_ranjan 10 місяців тому +6

      Supreme court’s verdict though legally binding isn’t an ideological standard. The sitting judges themselves differed in their opinion and a split decision was made with 2vs1 majority. They didn’t consider hijab to be essential part of Islam along the lines of turban for Sikhs. People of India have to legally follow it doesn’t mean they have to agree with the said opinion.

  • @gchandrasekharroyal
    @gchandrasekharroyal 3 місяці тому +1

    If no uniform in Schools
    For an instance..
    Digamber says its my choice
    No dress system
    Then
    Not a joke
    Just apply the same logic

  • @rahul619show
    @rahul619show 4 місяці тому +3

    Bhai uska question tha institutional rules follow karna chahiye. Ye nahi ki kyu nahi kiya
    Hijab waha pehen rahe ho jaha aisi dressing allowed nahi, uniform allowed h bas
    Same bahut saare schools me teeka bhi allowed nahi hota. Waha mana kiya jata h
    Institution k rules pe baat ho rahi h na ki iss baare me india aur jagah kya ho raha h

  • @sarithapandey6515
    @sarithapandey6515 5 місяців тому +3

    Even if Hindua are so concerned about Muslim women getting oppressed 🙄 and are supporting such rule then they shouldn't stop them from education as this could be a way to them to come out of it. They can become independent and live their life according to their wish.

    • @ayaanaga31
      @ayaanaga31 5 місяців тому +1

      Oooooh please dont say you are concerned if you are genuinely concerned for muslim womens you will never bring triple talaq if muslim women's feel comfortable in hijab then as a muslim women well wisher you should stand with them and say I support hijab so better don't fool us we know the reality of your people.

    • @sarithapandey6515
      @sarithapandey6515 5 місяців тому +1

      @@ayaanaga31 What does triple talaq has to do with hijab? Some of Hindu women cover their head with pallu too by the way. Even though I don't agree with that too, I don't believe government should dictate how they should be dressing up.

    • @ayaanaga31
      @ayaanaga31 5 місяців тому

      @@sarithapandey6515 read your first line you have written hindu are so concerned about muslim women getting oppressed so i reply you how you are concerned.

    • @sarithapandey6515
      @sarithapandey6515 5 місяців тому

      @@ayaanaga31 It was sarcastic comment on people who hide behind saving the women theory instead of saying we are bigots and we hate Muslims and anything to do with them.

    • @crimsonblaze5639
      @crimsonblaze5639 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ayaanaga31 yo what is this? That person made a valid point and was showing empathy and concern....what is this "your people"?...I'm a muslim too, but I'm an Indian first.... what is you people and my people? Coz of brain washed radicalized blokes like you, all Indian muslims are getting a bad name....why are you so divisive?? Understand the difference between culture and religion first...

  • @najibrizvi
    @najibrizvi 3 місяці тому +1

    Sikh turbans and Muslim Hijab should be put in the same category and similarly any other such mandatory religious attires. Believe me I am a muslim and women in my family would die then go out hijab less and no one is forcing them for that, my mom while in the hospital before she died would rush to fix her shawl when the doctor arrived to her room. Institutes should not be allowed to ban such things which are mandated by religion unless they are harming anyone. Banning hijab will only deprive muslim women of education, and education should be available to all, and for those girls who are being forced by their parents they need eduction the most so they can get out of the system.

    • @RohitYele.09
      @RohitYele.09 3 місяці тому +2

      Muslim women don't feel that Hijab is oppressive like andhbhakt who thinks bjp is good for nation. They have been taught that Hijab or parda is mandatory in Islam. Like Ghoonghat in Hindus decades ago. But Hindus abolised it as it was oppressive. I ask you,if your mom or sister don't feel that it's opressive ,does that mean every muslim women willingly wears hijab?

    • @najibrizvi
      @najibrizvi 3 місяці тому +1

      @@RohitYele.09 bro many wear it unwillingly but for that you can't ban those who wear it willingly, and how do you save those who are being forced? Definitely not by starving them of education. Only educated women can come out against anything being forced on them.

    • @RohitYele.09
      @RohitYele.09 3 місяці тому

      @@najibrizvi If they're forced to were hijab ,whose fault it is? Just because you are forced to were hijab, institutions
      should allow you . I would rather prefer to criminilize people who are forcing you
      to were hijab.

  • @AryanSMH
    @AryanSMH 5 місяців тому +2

    3:37 calm down Mr. Tough Guy

  • @vatsalvaishnav2062
    @vatsalvaishnav2062 4 місяці тому +1

    When i was in school we have prayers which is largely made by hindus and muslims stood in the prayer there was never a problem so why we should be worried about hijab ?

    • @RohitYele.09
      @RohitYele.09 3 місяці тому

      I was in government school , There is also a dress code or uniform. Muslims girls also follow the dress code . I can never know that they are muslim , but if they wear hijab or whole burkha anybody will judge them just because of their clothes . Imagine what average student think about girl which looks different in crowds , some of them will think they sre different. The sense of uniform and equality is gone there. If you notice,why they are suddenly wanted wear hijab,no one questioned them.

    • @Pratyusha---zzz
      @Pratyusha---zzz 2 місяці тому

      ​@@RohitYele.09 then turban should be removed ?? And even title should be removed too bcoz it's expose their caste ??

  • @dwightk.schrute5291
    @dwightk.schrute5291 4 місяці тому +6

    Bro clutched 2v1

  • @Jibreel-jt1qh
    @Jibreel-jt1qh 7 місяців тому +3

    It appears that by allowing hijab, we are giving freedom to practice their religion, but case of Iran should also be considered that in future hijab may get enforced on girls and then there will be no choice for them.
    My friend is teacher in a school in Bihar and most Muslim girls are covered head to toe, only eye can be seen and it became difficult for him to know if they are understanding subject. Surely we don't want to go that path and make all school look like this.

    • @Trend4ubro
      @Trend4ubro 7 місяців тому +1

      I can only laugh on your argument 😂

    • @Jibreel-jt1qh
      @Jibreel-jt1qh 7 місяців тому +2

      @@Trend4ubro you can laugh, but I am concerned about India's future. Do you want to see school where girls wear nakab? Earlier situation was not like this, Muslim women used to wear moderate clothes like any Indian women, then people started going to Saudi for work and they learn Saudi culture and when husband came back they started enforcing nakab. It is gradual process first start with hijab, then nakab only eye and hand can be seen then complete cover even eye hand can't be seen.

    • @Trend4ubro
      @Trend4ubro 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Jibreel-jt1qh if a muslim women want to wear hijab it's a problem but people' are doing puja in every govt and private school then the country is safe 🤣

    • @Jibreel-jt1qh
      @Jibreel-jt1qh 7 місяців тому +2

      @@Trend4ubro how Puja is related to safety? You can wear whatever you want but there is no need to cover face. It is the worst this that a woman is forced to cover head to toe and woman is brainwashed to think that allah want them to be covered head to toe in black cloth. If such environment is created where most woman wear nakab then it become difficult for other women who don't want to wear as they will also for forced to wear. Iran is good example, there again hijab enforcement started, now there is no choice. So don't make a choice that in future you won't have any choice.

    • @Trend4ubro
      @Trend4ubro 7 місяців тому

      @@Jibreel-jt1qh if I feel scared a women with sari then she will remove it , that the bullshit argument you are making and you are saying if a women who do the hijab then she is brainwashed what about those women who wear western clothes and follow western beauty standards even are performed surgeries for look like them and wear uncomfortable heals they are not brainwashed hahaha.
      It's Allah guidance it's called belive not brainwashed.

  • @mahendrabaingne7364
    @mahendrabaingne7364 5 місяців тому +4

    in problems ka ek hi solution hai...UCC

  • @RahulKumar-jv5st
    @RahulKumar-jv5st 7 місяців тому +2

    This was not a discussion, just two people counter questioning the questioner😂.
    By the way I too believe there should be liberty for choosing whatever clothing one wants to wear. However, this could have been deliberated to VV in a better way then it was delivered.
    No wonder he was not satisfied with arguments put forth by Vimoh and Meghnad.
    Thanks.

  • @goddalehundibharathraj4374
    @goddalehundibharathraj4374 4 місяці тому +2

    Surprisingly you guys did not cover what Karnataka high court told. Religious symbols are allowed in schools as long as those people can prove that its an "essential religious practice". The muslim side failed to prove hijab is an essential religious practice so it was not allowed.

    • @sumitsharma4706
      @sumitsharma4706 4 місяці тому

      Dekh beta agar banned hoga tho har ek religious dress ban hoga school may warna sabhi allow hoga samjha

    • @goddalehundibharathraj4374
      @goddalehundibharathraj4374 4 місяці тому +1

      @@sumitsharma4706 arrey aunty all religious symbols are allowed legally as long as they prove it.

    • @sumitsharma4706
      @sumitsharma4706 4 місяці тому

      @@goddalehundibharathraj4374 Agar allow hai tho fir hijab ki controversey q horahi hai bata

    • @goddalehundibharathraj4374
      @goddalehundibharathraj4374 4 місяці тому +2

      @@sumitsharma4706 read the comment again slowly. The Muslim side could not prove that it's an essential religious practice mentioned in their scriptures.

    • @sumitsharma4706
      @sumitsharma4706 4 місяці тому

      @@goddalehundibharathraj4374 Many muslim girls wear hijab so it means they prove in muslim there is the concept of hijab bro all religion are mythology and mythology itsel didnt have any proofs or agar prove bhi nahi ker paye ho tab bhi koi bhi dress pehen k ja sakte hai na chahai hijab he q na

  • @cooldudeimr
    @cooldudeimr 9 місяців тому +13

    Woh ladkiya Pehle se hijab pehen ke Jaa rahi thi itne saalo se.. Yeh Co troversy BJPEE ne manufacture ki..thise girls actually removed the burkha inside the school during class and wore it back again when leaving.. Has anyone spoken about this?

    • @ranasarangi
      @ranasarangi 7 місяців тому +1

      Why US Human Rights ke activist ko ye sab itne saalo se chala aaraha dikh kyun nhi rhaa

    • @prasantapandaprasanta8824
      @prasantapandaprasanta8824 7 місяців тому

      ​@@ranasaranginahi dikhenge. Ye librandu hi hai Jo bharat tere tukde honge jaise naaro ka samarthan karte hai

    • @Guru_hoja_shuru
      @Guru_hoja_shuru 7 місяців тому +3

      'जागृति' नाम की भी कोई चीज होती है...इतने सालो से स्कूल मे पहन रही है... इसका मतलब यह नहीं है कि वो सही कर रही थी... सही दिशा मे हो रहा 'परिवर्तन'.. स्वीकार्य होना चाहिए ✅ सेकुलरिज्म हर देश पर सही नहीं रहता!!!

    • @Jadookapitaaratv
      @Jadookapitaaratv 5 місяців тому

      @@Guru_hoja_shuru theek kaha jaagrati AA Rahi hai isiliye logon ko hijaab se badi problem hai,lekin unhe aadhe adoore kapdo me sadak par chalti ladkiyan bht achchi lagti hain,jab Kam kapde pahan ne ki baat hai to liberty of women,lekin hijaab ki baat aayi to oppression ho gaya,wah re dogle samaj,darasal problem isliye hai ki hijaab me ladkiyan taadne ka mauka nahi milta, modern aadhi dress me hongi ladkiyan tabhi to ye aankhe senk sakenge

    • @anasqureshi644
      @anasqureshi644 4 місяці тому

      @@Guru_hoja_shuru to bhai fir sikho ki bhi pagdi utarwaoge aap?

  • @studypurposeonly69
    @studypurposeonly69 Рік тому +12

    W opinion by Vimoh 💯

  • @urduoversimplified5948
    @urduoversimplified5948 4 місяці тому

    ❤Two logical persons amazing reply no prejudice nothing negative

  • @drrehel943
    @drrehel943 4 місяці тому

    i support vimoh's point of view bt it is nxt to impossible

  • @AdityaKalkhand-xn7cn
    @AdityaKalkhand-xn7cn 4 місяці тому

    If it is a private school, they can make whatever rules they want, even if it involves supporting a majority religious group. But as Meghnad said, question should be asked, Why??. And the answer should also be direct, “We do not like minority religious groups, because we believe in majoritarianism and we hate the idea of liberalism , we don’t even care about secularism because apparently all we care about is Hindu superiority”
    I am not a well wisher of any religion per se, but I definitely don’t like hypocrites. What I dislike the most among the right wing citizens is their lack of ownership towards their own beliefs and ideas.

    • @Pratyusha---zzz
      @Pratyusha---zzz 2 місяці тому

      Then you should hate yourself bcoz any one who has a single brain cell can tell you are the epitome of hypocrites...

  • @AnilKale
    @AnilKale 3 місяці тому

    मुझे याद है
    स्कूल में साथ में पड़ने वाले मुस्लिम बच्चो को प्रसाद खाने के लिए टीचर के द्वारा फोर्स किया जाता था
    अपना ओपिनियन थोपा जाता था।

  • @estiyakrhythm6828
    @estiyakrhythm6828 9 місяців тому +71

    No hijab is not a sign of oppression. You can see even in western country a lot of muslim woman wear hijab because they want to wear it .. Imagine wearing saree is seen as a oppression by a french woman.. Because she never wear a saree in her life and based on her POV it is too much dress in summer season.. As they are comfortable wearing short dress in summer. Did a common indian married woman comfortable of wearing it in summer, If the french woman see it as a oppression . Dress is a cultural thing and a matter of choice. 🙂

    • @Nickel287
      @Nickel287 9 місяців тому +32

      It should not be imposed
      If the indian woman wants to wear saree at will , we should respect her decision
      But if she says that henceforth she won't be wearing saree or go to temples or wear mangalsutra or follow any religious rituals cause she doesn't want to do it , and wants to follow western dressing style , her decision should still be respected
      The society should not impose it on her or compel her to abide by the rituals

    • @DeepakJAT0007
      @DeepakJAT0007 9 місяців тому

      ​@@Nickel287yes

    • @KshatrapalKushwaha
      @KshatrapalKushwaha 8 місяців тому +3

      😂😂

    • @ayeshaansari1011
      @ayeshaansari1011 8 місяців тому +13

      Yes....but they judge the one who is not wearing hijab.... don't judge if u don't want to be judge.... personal choice... liberty

    • @xzx255
      @xzx255 7 місяців тому +11

      Hijab ho ya ghungat both are sign of oppression.

  • @AnilKale
    @AnilKale 3 місяці тому

    स्कूल में ईश्वर प्रार्थना के स्थान पर जागृति गीत होना चाहिए

  • @techvideo240
    @techvideo240 11 місяців тому

    Muslim girls wear hijab, because it is wajib i.e necessary but if their is something that is necessary to wear in other religions then we don't have any problem

    • @Trend4ubro
      @Trend4ubro 4 місяці тому

      Mangalsutra is necessary for hindu women if she didn't wear then society criticize her and it's mentioned in your religious scriptures.

  • @Bharat.india.hindustan.94
    @Bharat.india.hindustan.94 7 місяців тому +1

    Sir aapne onske pet me dard kardiya 😂

  • @akshaynerekar3514
    @akshaynerekar3514 6 місяців тому

    Meghnad is not a good reason why you should not send your kid to a RSS run school

  • @tanveerabbas8226
    @tanveerabbas8226 4 місяці тому

    2 men want to discuss hijab😊

  • @hemantsharama448
    @hemantsharama448 5 місяців тому

    पुरातनी पुरूष स्त्रियाें को अपनी मिल्कत , धरोहर , दासी मानता है ,वो पूरी कोशिश करता है कि
    मानसिक रूप से औरत पिछडी
    रहें , ताकि शोषण जारी रहे और
    पुरूष और धार्मिक शोषण कर्ता
    महत्वपूर्ण रहें !
    यह भी पुरातनी धंधा है !
    मांओं ,बच्चियों सोच का विकास करना होगा !
    पढिये ,खूब पढिये ,दुनिया के साथ कदम बढायें !
    विमोह अभिनंदन !
    फर्क पड़ जाये तो मुझे खुशी होगी !❤

  • @AnilKale
    @AnilKale 3 місяці тому

    ओपिनियन देना
    सुझाव देना आसान है
    उससे पूछो जो झेल रहा है।

  • @mangakhoon4517go
    @mangakhoon4517go 4 місяці тому

    Mere khyal se ek baat simple honi chahiye ya to sab ban karo ya to kuch bhi nhi(obviously in a limit)

  • @DevduttaFlute
    @DevduttaFlute 6 місяців тому

    School me nahi pehen na chahiye..... Uniform ka matlab hi kya hai fir

  • @shadygamererfan377
    @shadygamererfan377 6 місяців тому

    Who are we to decide what or what shouldn't a woman wear, it is their choice😊

    • @jimmorrison90
      @jimmorrison90 4 місяці тому

      Religion should be banned.

    • @RohitYele.09
      @RohitYele.09 3 місяці тому

      Show relegion should not what women want to wear ,simple .

    • @Inner.divinity
      @Inner.divinity 3 місяці тому +1

      By that logic, there should not be any uniform in school , college, hospital , police and army ...let people wear whatever they want to wear , 😁 😁 dhoti,kurta, shorts, trouser , saree, jeans...

  • @gurmeet926
    @gurmeet926 4 місяці тому +2

    Vimoh rational kam zadya politican hai.

  • @iamsham9548
    @iamsham9548 2 місяці тому

    If a man is atheist, doesn’t believe in a creator , believes everything happened for no reason n the universe came into being on its own with all these complex designs least being the human body , also this man has no morality reference coz God doesn’t exist so he can sleep with whom so ever he want n thats would be ok , why would someone ask such a man about hijaab to this man? Whats wrong with people? Athiest must not be included in topics related to religions . Jo insaan God ko hi nhi maanta usko goodness , evil , ache bhale ki kya samajh? Science doesn’t decide whats wrong or write . Science is just one of the mediums to understand the physical phenomena of the world. Science is also limited and it changes with time n new discoveries thats the beauty of science but science didn’t create anything. Every atom belongs to somebody ELSE.

  • @Ignitesoull
    @Ignitesoull 6 місяців тому

    Hum rule ko question ni krte 😂

  • @Lilith_2002
    @Lilith_2002 7 місяців тому +3

    If you want to do it then hijab v pehniye or saraswati puja v kijie nahi karna ho to dono ko hi band kar dijiye.....

  • @rahul619show
    @rahul619show 4 місяці тому +1

    Meghnad k answers are just stu9id

  • @mangakhoon4517go
    @mangakhoon4517go 4 місяці тому

    Rss kai school sai padh kai meghnath nai rss ko aukat dikha di😵‍💫

  • @anurag10992
    @anurag10992 4 місяці тому

    As per meghnard and vimoh, you can wear anything. Can people come in swimsuits?

    • @Inner.divinity
      @Inner.divinity 3 місяці тому

      Can people be allowed to wear dhoti, lungi, shorts, pajama, gamchha in schools and colleges just because they want to wear it??..

  • @ZAKIRRANA7692
    @ZAKIRRANA7692 4 місяці тому

    Hijab se tumhe dikkat kya hai

    • @Inner.divinity
      @Inner.divinity 3 місяці тому

      Kuch dikkat nahin hai...educational institutions mein koi religious symbol allowed nahin honi chahiye hai unless and until usko pehnna essential religious practice hai ...jese turbans of sikh

  • @mr.nobody6519
    @mr.nobody6519 5 місяців тому

    ek bar phir tumhara aadha adhura gyan
    hijab par baith isliye lagaya gaya tha kyonki ladkiyan uske threw cheating kar rahi thi usmen paper chhupa ke la rahi thi note because of saffron brigade
    Saffron brigade jab active hua Tha Jab Muslim Ladki hijab Ke liye protest kar rahi thi College Ke bahar

    • @anasqureshi644
      @anasqureshi644 4 місяці тому

      hijab pe ban isliye lgaya gya kyuki ek akeli lrki ke peeche 30-40 lrko ki safron bigrade lg gyi thi gale me orange gamchha dal ke jai shree ke slogan shout krke ye gamche bjp politician dwara bate gye the ...unki maang thi ki inko hijab pehnke aane de rhe ho to hme bhi tilak aur gamchha pehnke aane do cllg pure cllg ka mahol communal ho gya tha ese me cllg ko hijab pr ban krna pda

    • @Inner.divinity
      @Inner.divinity 3 місяці тому

      ​​@@anasqureshi644Can people be allowed to wear dhoti, lungi, shorts, pajama, gamchha in schools and colleges just because they want to wear it??

  • @surzex
    @surzex 4 місяці тому

    hate on muslims is just unbelievable

    • @RohitYele.09
      @RohitYele.09 3 місяці тому

      There actions are also unbelievable 😂

  • @WeKnowIslam94
    @WeKnowIslam94 6 місяців тому

    Aap dhaga tika sindur Mangalsutra ko kapde me count nahi kar sakte ha ye sab bhi wearables hi hain par kapde ne nahi or school me mostly private school me ek particular dress code hota yaha par dress ka matalab tika ya dhaga nahi kapda hota hai or Hizab or bhurkha se aapka dress code puri tarah dhak jata hai... Waise to Maan lijiye ki koi ladka ya ladki ko cap pahnne ka Mann kare, full pant ki jagah jeans pahnne ka Mann kare, ladki ko scarf pahnne ka Mann kare tab aap kya karenge.... Baki jaha cultural function ki baat hai main school or office me iske bilkul against hu par aap koi agar party bhi organise karte ho kisi company me to wo ek cultural function hi hota jaha mostly western dress log pahnte kyuki agar aap saari me gye waha ye kurta pyjama me to log aap par hasenge....

    • @Inner.divinity
      @Inner.divinity 3 місяці тому

      Can people be allowed to wear dhoti, lungi, shorts, pajama, gamchha in schools and colleges just because they want to wear it??

  • @NeyamatAnsari-iz6zz
    @NeyamatAnsari-iz6zz 6 місяців тому

    Ek bar debate karlijye sir

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  6 місяців тому +2

      iss saturday aa jaiye

    • @NeyamatAnsari-iz6zz
      @NeyamatAnsari-iz6zz 6 місяців тому

      @@vimohlive ek bar chance dijye aapko bhi maja ayga insha allah

    • @syedhasanbilal2812
      @syedhasanbilal2812 6 місяців тому

      @@vimohlive Sir Kaise Bat Ho Sakti Hai Apse Ya Koi Live Session me Join Kar sakte Hain Kya

  • @shubhamsaini4770
    @shubhamsaini4770 4 дні тому

    Iran ki girls ka bhi support kr lo jara