I really hope GW re do terminators and old skool space marines making them a better scale. I have a really bad feeling they’re gonna change terminators into something completely different and get rid of the emperors space marines altogether.
I would love to see chapters of space marines refusing primaris reinforcements and just aking their equipment. The firstborn are just wearing the newer gear over the new boys and just get true scale space marines.
@@markhohenbrink5230 doesn't really make sense at all since humanity is on the decline in 40k + chapters saying no is telling the emperor No I dont want the new toys I desperately need. Also the new revamp makes alot of sense ....since this is the future lol.
War Rabbit I think if they did go down that route Black Templars would be perfect as they don’t like Guilliman and his tactics, hence why they are the imperiums largest chapter.
Giles Chenery There’s ways they could work it into the lore and tabletop. Maybe cawls primaris have a limited lifespan compared to the emperors marines. Or they could keep old skool marines as hardened veterans.
Grey knights, the unique army with 3 kits (2 units, 1 "vehicle"), 4 characters, and 1 HQ specific... I was always confused as to why the Grey knights have only one fast attack (interceptors), and only the storm raven, storm hawk, rhino, and land raider. There are only 2 vable strats though, Paladin rush, or Papoose platoon (all dreadknights).
@@yesicollectwarhammerfiguri9473 I do but Invision a future where I get to see tiny little toys shoot each for my amusement.....I loved the Indian in the cupboard movie
Have to agree on the Dreadknight's exposed cockpit just looking daft. It works for the Sisters of Battle one because they're explicitly intended as kamikaze troops who are expected to die, but the uber-elite Grey Knights? Just no.
Having just painted Crowe, because he is a model I've always wanted to paint, I can say he is one of the best Marine models done. I had to build him a new backpack and banner as the resin one seemed way too small, but he is a beautiful model. Excited though for his new plastic one coming soon.
Grey Knight player here, I can confirm that Voldus with a helm looks fantastic. Edit: Crowe may look great but his sword and banner are beyond flimsy. I just kitbashed something to proxy.
Seeing those Paladins defintely brings the scale issue into focus. The leg joints are too high and too spread, they look like they are somehow squatting while keeping straight legged.
Those mini shields on the shoulders are called tilting shields. They're designed for jousting primarily, but they are sometimes worn to display personal arms and heraldry.
They could also be representing besagews or more likely ailettes. Nonetheless, all the more medieval knight influence and the reason why Grey Knights are my favorites!
I just stuck a knight head I bought separately from forge world in the place of the pilot of the dreadknight. Had to cut away the whole waist divider thingy and cover things up with purity seals. Ended up with the hunchback look that imperial knights have and I like it.
I feel like the Dreadknight is absurd enough to work as an Ork design (if maybe a bit cleaner than any Ork design), but for Marines of any sort it's just kind of silly.
The Brother Captain and Stern minis were done in 2003 while Castellan Crowe and Draigo were done in 2011. That is the difference. Those metal models from 2003 were great at the time, and aged better than the 80s and 90s models, but definitely need to be updated. The Grey Knights have needed an overhaul for a long time. Not just on existing minis but to get new minis and more options.
I love my Grey Knights and excited for when they get the refresh. Remember a lot of the Resin models are metal “refresh” so Stern is a very old model, probably 12-15 years at this point.
Stern was around during 3rd edition I believe, I remember when Tau first came out I started them and my friend had Demonhunters and he had Stern then I believe, which was around 2000-2002.
@@horacethehippo2445 I don’t think this is the case at all, Grey Knights play like a completely different army to Custodes. They will get redone soon enough I’m sure.
I find the lack of Plastic Draigo's model in Ritual of The Damned disturbing. And remember, even old model may look awsome... on the webstore page! They are still resin feckers and they should be burned away and remold in glorious Emperor's Plastic!
I was never really into gray knights but after watching this I really want to start a gray knight army too bad all the hobbies stores are closed for me. But I hope GW will give the gray knights new models with good proportions because these look even smaller than the classic space Marines
They are not, they are actually close if not a tiny bit bigger than Primaris. Thing is their posing is a bit wonky and makes them look even more squat than normal
Hey Kiri, can you do Skaven range review some time? They have almost half of the models in metal, which reminds me a lot of how it was with SoB. I have a feeling that they might get the same treatment. A massive upgrade rather than singular kits and models over a long period. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
I converted Stern and Voldus into my generic Brother-Captain and Librarian, respectively. The scale difference between the resin and newer plastic is super annoying. To the point where I don't want to finish painting Stern guy and do another conversion. Conversely can confirm Castellan Crowe still looks very good
7:30 Yeah the small shoulder shields are separate bits. Whoever built that guy put his on at a weird angle. Also I have never understood people's issues with the Dread Knight. It looks great.
I feel like if you could somehow graft the torso of a primaris redemptor dreadnought on the dreadkniht instead of the baby carrier, that would actually look good. Might try.
I really like the Grey Knights in general but as a newer player I totally agree that Primaris marines just look better than older ones (both in terms of scale and for me I love their helmets, but the Grey Knights strike squad helmets look excellent too)), but the whole theme the Grey Knights have going for them is excellent. Now I can’t for the life of me tell why GW used to make the space marines all squat like that.
I did find a thing on ebay that fixes the baby carrier, it makes the mech look kinda like a Grey Knights version of that Forgeworld Kytan, but hey It actually looks good.
i agree, Crowe has maintained its look real well. i did give my Voldus a standard terminator head. that new librarian terminator that was released, works perfectly for grey knights having the angelus pattern storm bolter. when they came out with rules for a grand master in dreadknight, i used my converted dreadknight to represent that unit. it uses the front of a venerable dreadnought. i was thinking of making a new one using the redemptor dread, or maybe using the front of the librarian dread from blood angels. get rid of the blood angels iconography and replace them with grey knight ones.
Stern is the oldest mini in that line up. I have a metal one dating back to 2000. Also the Brother Captain is just the old metal Grey Knight Terminator Justiciar that came in an old set. They repurposed him when they made the plastic Terminator kits.
I actually quite like the Dreadknight. Gotta also consider that the exoskeleton isn't any more resistant than the Space Marine armor, so there are actually more benefits to leaving it open than to closing it. I do wish it had something so the guy in it wouldn't look as silly. Maybe if the front was more "merged" with the armor? As if there was a slot for the grey knight to hop in.
Crowe is probably the best of the bunch, closely followed by the Terminators. Remember when Forgeworld did their custom Furioso body and psycannon for the GK? Sad to see that that, like my beloved Elysians, has been quietly chinned off. The Dreadknight is just funny.
Wish i could post pics here. There are some awsome 3d print files to fix the baby carrier. Just converted 2 and that look amazing. Helps i have a buddy with resin printer that does good detail
Paladins were my first ever set of any kind for modeling and I will say that the customization options mskes for a top tier build experience...enough to get mr into the hobby full force.
I have bought a total of one baby carrier. It got merged with spare Daemon Prince parts to make a Soul Grinder of my Khorne Daemonkin in 7th. Hasn't even seen paint.
Hello mate...Hope you are well...Greyknights are the only GW 40k army I've got, I should put them on here, mine are painted the same as how gw does them they are almost as good as the ones in the book, i made a colour tweak in that the white helmets became gold, I never bothered with the character models I made my own including one holding the relic blade...I agree with you about the dreadknight it should have had a hull like dreadnought or something like the hulk suit ( and I have seen a picture of one with a dreadnought hull attached it looked good but it was only a picture so couldn't really see the butchery of how it was attached) HOWEVER to call it ( the fluff/the model ) bullshit was a bit strong I thought...titans have things called void shields in them/on them ( or did) so greyknights are elite enough to get something similar I would suggest with out tearing a rift in the 40k space time continuum to see past the "babycarrier" thing (I really must put mine on here)...cheers now
The faces sometimes aren't helped by the paint job. The high contrast, dramatic painting style of the studio team really brings out all the creases and folds in the faces.
I think the problem with the big boi is they were splitting the difference between the Ironmonger look from Iron Man and the exo lifter from Aliens. If they had just gone the way of Ironmonger it would be fine. Looking like an oversized Grey Knight with pistons on the arms and a chest that opens to show the pilot
Stern is 4th edition, way older than Crowe. The old metal termies were excellent but now they are a fair bit smaller than the plastic ones. I do hate the plastic termies for their poses. Their legs are spread too widely.
Stern has existed since the old metal grey knights. it no wonder he's dated also for the space marine one you should just split it to HQ, elite fast ect
At least on the Baby Carrier the dude is wearing Armor, Unlike the Astra Militarum walker pilots, who might as well be walking around in Boxers or Briefs. But yea, so close to perfection, then to fail so hard, you just got to try & fail even HARDER.
I completely disagree about the dreadknights. With the exception of them not being very possible, they fine without having a more armored front. Their Grey Knight armor is extremely strong, and is capable of handling hits that some imperial tanks would be wrecked by. Not only is the design similar to a lot of power suits in anime and movies (aliens), but real life power suits are designed similarly in a smaller scale.
lol. Grandmaster Voldus - if you looked at the sprue, his head is seperate, so it is a tiny kitbash to bung a lid on him. I too share your bareheadedphobia
In regards to the "redemption sword" on crowe, I think it's *meant* to be "redemption's word"
I can't believe I've never realised that. That makes far more sense.
@@Kirioth np!
I just wish that more grey knights could take storm shields, the look of going sword and board completely fits their knight aesthetic.
Every time I look at GK range I realize that I somehow managed to forget how few exclusive models they get.
Yes indeed, but it's not like you can field that many models in the first place...
I really hope GW re do terminators and old skool space marines making them a better scale. I have a really bad feeling they’re gonna change terminators into something completely different and get rid of the emperors space marines altogether.
There's no hope of revamped real marines. They could pull some mad shit in the far future I guess but I highly doubt it.
I would love to see chapters of space marines refusing primaris reinforcements and just aking their equipment. The firstborn are just wearing the newer gear over the new boys and just get true scale space marines.
@@markhohenbrink5230 doesn't really make sense at all since humanity is on the decline in 40k + chapters saying no is telling the emperor No I dont want the new toys I desperately need. Also the new revamp makes alot of sense ....since this is the future lol.
War Rabbit I think if they did go down that route Black Templars would be perfect as they don’t like Guilliman and his tactics, hence why they are the imperiums largest chapter.
Giles Chenery There’s ways they could work it into the lore and tabletop. Maybe cawls primaris have a limited lifespan compared to the emperors marines. Or they could keep old skool marines as hardened veterans.
"You cant repose the legs" WORDS OF A COWARD
Grey knights, the unique army with 3 kits (2 units, 1 "vehicle"), 4 characters, and 1 HQ specific...
I was always confused as to why the Grey knights have only one fast attack (interceptors), and only the storm raven, storm hawk, rhino, and land raider.
There are only 2 vable strats though, Paladin rush, or Papoose platoon (all dreadknights).
Just a question... Miniature quality has improved greatly over the years - how much better could they get?
They could be automated and actually fight each other for my amusement on the table top....oh yeah and they could paint themselves lol
@@blacktemplar5970 good points
@@lukemclellan2141 one day hopefully..lol
@@blacktemplar5970 why are you in this hobby if you dont enjoy painting + dont enjoy the tabletop fighting?
@@yesicollectwarhammerfiguri9473 I do but Invision a future where I get to see tiny little toys shoot each for my amusement.....I loved the Indian in the cupboard movie
Have to agree on the Dreadknight's exposed cockpit just looking daft. It works for the Sisters of Battle one because they're explicitly intended as kamikaze troops who are expected to die, but the uber-elite Grey Knights? Just no.
«Stupid design.» -Man-Emperor of Mankind
Im thinking they were trying to make them not look like imperial knights
Pepsi Crusader
Well Imperial Knight models are quite recent (around 5 or 6 years old I believe), so waay more recent than dreadnight
@@Figue- well if thats true i didn't know that thanks
Pepsi Crusader
No problem :) and yes it’s true ahah I remember both releases
Having just painted Crowe, because he is a model I've always wanted to paint, I can say he is one of the best Marine models done. I had to build him a new backpack and banner as the resin one seemed way too small, but he is a beautiful model. Excited though for his new plastic one coming soon.
Grey Knight player here, I can confirm that Voldus with a helm looks fantastic.
Edit: Crowe may look great but his sword and banner are beyond flimsy. I just kitbashed something to proxy.
After this and listening to Baldemort's introduction to the GK, I've got these guys on my purchase radar.
Seeing those Paladins defintely brings the scale issue into focus. The leg joints are too high and too spread, they look like they are somehow squatting while keeping straight legged.
Those mini shields on the shoulders are called tilting shields. They're designed for jousting primarily, but they are sometimes worn to display personal arms and heraldry.
They could also be representing besagews or more likely ailettes. Nonetheless, all the more medieval knight influence and the reason why Grey Knights are my favorites!
The emperor's response to the Dread knight.
"what in the name of Terra on roller skates is this."
I just stuck a knight head I bought separately from forge world in the place of the pilot of the dreadknight. Had to cut away the whole waist divider thingy and cover things up with purity seals. Ended up with the hunchback look that imperial knights have and I like it.
I feel like the Dreadknight is absurd enough to work as an Ork design (if maybe a bit cleaner than any Ork design), but for Marines of any sort it's just kind of silly.
I've seen an ork conversion. Looked pretty good. I want to see one with a Jokaero pilot.
i actually really like the dreadknight
The Brother Captain and Stern minis were done in 2003 while Castellan Crowe and Draigo were done in 2011. That is the difference. Those metal models from 2003 were great at the time, and aged better than the 80s and 90s models, but definitely need to be updated.
The Grey Knights have needed an overhaul for a long time. Not just on existing minis but to get new minis and more options.
I love my Grey Knights and excited for when they get the refresh. Remember a lot of the Resin models are metal “refresh” so Stern is a very old model, probably 12-15 years at this point.
Older
Stern was around during 3rd edition I believe, I remember when Tau first came out I started them and my friend had Demonhunters and he had Stern then I believe, which was around 2000-2002.
Id love them to get redone but i feel like they’ve been replaced mostly by custodes sadly
@@horacethehippo2445 I don’t think this is the case at all, Grey Knights play like a completely different army to Custodes. They will get redone soon enough I’m sure.
I find the lack of Plastic Draigo's model in Ritual of The Damned disturbing. And remember, even old model may look awsome... on the webstore page! They are still resin feckers and they should be burned away and remold in glorious Emperor's Plastic!
I was never really into gray knights but after watching this I really want to start a gray knight army too bad all the hobbies stores are closed for me. But I hope GW will give the gray knights new models with good proportions because these look even smaller than the classic space Marines
They are not, they are actually close if not a tiny bit bigger than Primaris. Thing is their posing is a bit wonky and makes them look even more squat than normal
For the DreadKnight, PopGoesTheMonkey on Shapeways has a conversion kit to enclose the torso section and it looks awesome
Masters of the Baby Carriers and the Wardens of Matt!
So many awesome models. I thin the models without helmets have aged the worst. Thanks for making these range reviews. Keep up the good work.
Hey Kiri, can you do Skaven range review some time? They have almost half of the models in metal, which reminds me a lot of how it was with SoB. I have a feeling that they might get the same treatment. A massive upgrade rather than singular kits and models over a long period. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
Can you, a fellow skitterer, explain why they removed the Poisoned Wind Mortar from the army list?
You'd think an army that is said to have all the most advanced weapons (after the custodes) would have atleast one unique vehicle.
On the note of not in the the right store section, did you know 1ksons can take tzaangors cause according to the gw webstore 40k section you can't
Stern and the resin Brother Captain were cast back in 3rd edition around 2001 or so. Draigo and Crowe came later.
There are also some cool 3D printed parts that fix the baby carrier.
spikeybits.com/2020/04/upgrade-your-dreadknight-with-pop-goes-the-monkey.html
@@samburton56 What the fuck that looks fucking amazing! Freaking Anor Londo Knights in Warhammer, i love it!
Came for the baby carrier, stayed for the baby carrier
Usually on the gw store if a model does not show a sprue in any of the pictures then it is resin
I converted Stern and Voldus into my generic Brother-Captain and Librarian, respectively. The scale difference between the resin and newer plastic is super annoying. To the point where I don't want to finish painting Stern guy and do another conversion. Conversely can confirm Castellan Crowe still looks very good
I'd love to see a Dark Eldar review!
i would have been happy with the dreadknight they just made it look like a big grey knight
7:30 Yeah the small shoulder shields are separate bits. Whoever built that guy put his on at a weird angle.
Also I have never understood people's issues with the Dread Knight. It looks great.
completely agree. reminds me of the third matrix movie final fight scene
I feel like if you could somehow graft the torso of a primaris redemptor dreadnought on the dreadkniht instead of the baby carrier, that would actually look good.
Might try.
I really like the Grey Knights in general but as a newer player I totally agree that Primaris marines just look better than older ones (both in terms of scale and for me I love their helmets, but the Grey Knights strike squad helmets look excellent too)), but the whole theme the Grey Knights have going for them is excellent.
Now I can’t for the life of me tell why GW used to make the space marines all squat like that.
i like grey knight parts for my black templars
I did find a thing on ebay that fixes the baby carrier, it makes the mech look kinda like a Grey Knights version of that Forgeworld Kytan, but hey It actually looks good.
i agree, Crowe has maintained its look real well. i did give my Voldus a standard terminator head. that new librarian terminator that was released, works perfectly for grey knights having the angelus pattern storm bolter. when they came out with rules for a grand master in dreadknight, i used my converted dreadknight to represent that unit. it uses the front of a venerable dreadnought. i was thinking of making a new one using the redemptor dread, or maybe using the front of the librarian dread from blood angels. get rid of the blood angels iconography and replace them with grey knight ones.
Stern is the oldest mini in that line up. I have a metal one dating back to 2000. Also the Brother Captain is just the old metal Grey Knight Terminator Justiciar that came in an old set. They repurposed him when they made the plastic Terminator kits.
I have the brother captian model from the time it was in metal and the sarge for the termiantors. At that time the small shield was a separate part.
I actually quite like the Dreadknight. Gotta also consider that the exoskeleton isn't any more resistant than the Space Marine armor, so there are actually more benefits to leaving it open than to closing it.
I do wish it had something so the guy in it wouldn't look as silly. Maybe if the front was more "merged" with the armor? As if there was a slot for the grey knight to hop in.
Crowe is probably the best of the bunch, closely followed by the Terminators. Remember when Forgeworld did their custom Furioso body and psycannon for the GK? Sad to see that that, like my beloved Elysians, has been quietly chinned off. The Dreadknight is just funny.
Wish i could post pics here. There are some awsome 3d print files to fix the baby carrier. Just converted 2 and that look amazing. Helps i have a buddy with resin printer that does good detail
I've done more than a dozen dreadknight conversions that replace the baby carrier, here's my favourites: ua-cam.com/video/_75Dpcs6LPE/v-deo.html
Thanks for the video Kiri!
My Castellan Crowe sculpt was trash there was no amount of sanding that could save it. But, that's a common problem with GW resin
Paladins were my first ever set of any kind for modeling and I will say that the customization options mskes for a top tier build experience...enough to get mr into the hobby full force.
I have bought a total of one baby carrier. It got merged with spare Daemon Prince parts to make a Soul Grinder of my Khorne Daemonkin in 7th. Hasn't even seen paint.
The scout squad class as all 3 depending on weapons and paint colour ie helmets painted white for purifiers
For the "babby carrier"; BOYZ! GET DA MECHZAW! WE'RE BASHING ZUM KITZ!
There is in Pop goes the Monkey fix for the Dreadknigh and not having baby carrier look
Love me some grey knights!
Hello mate...Hope you are well...Greyknights are the only GW 40k army I've got, I should put them on here, mine are painted the same as how gw does them they are almost as good as the ones in the book, i made a colour tweak in that the white helmets became gold, I never bothered with the character models I made my own including one holding the relic blade...I agree with you about the dreadknight it should have had a hull like dreadnought or something like the hulk suit ( and I have seen a picture of one with a dreadnought hull attached it looked good but it was only a picture so couldn't really see the butchery of how it was attached) HOWEVER to call it ( the fluff/the model ) bullshit was a bit strong I thought...titans have things called void shields in them/on them ( or did) so greyknights are elite enough to get something similar I would suggest with out tearing a rift in the 40k space time continuum to see past the "babycarrier" thing (I really must put mine on here)...cheers now
11:35
Dont forget purgation squad.
The faces sometimes aren't helped by the paint job. The high contrast, dramatic painting style of the studio team really brings out all the creases and folds in the faces.
I think the problem with the big boi is they were splitting the difference between the Ironmonger look from Iron Man and the exo lifter from Aliens. If they had just gone the way of Ironmonger it would be fine. Looking like an oversized Grey Knight with pistons on the arms and a chest that opens to show the pilot
3:29 did somebody say *SQUATS?*
What is the actual difference with paladins and termies as far as the models go?
Pop Goes The Monkey sell front armor casings for the baby carrier that turn it into a scary epic Dread
I like the baby carrier design. Kind of an aliens design. Would like to do a guard conversion
Popgoesthemonkey has a sweet conversion kit for the Dreadknight
Crowe looks great untill you see that the sword on the official mini is bent slightly!
Stern is 4th edition, way older than Crowe. The old metal termies were excellent but now they are a fair bit smaller than the plastic ones. I do hate the plastic termies for their poses. Their legs are spread too widely.
They do need the primaris treatment
grey knights are badass....but like deathwatch, done get much love and have a similar small range.
God Crowe's sword bothers the hell outta me. Its bent, and GW couldn't be bothered to fix it or find a better copy
As time passes I hate the DreadKnight look more and more. It's so stupid in design and the single most incompetent model GW has ever come out with.
My main issue with the dreadknight is that it looks like the grey knight piloting it looks like he's in a baby sling
Stern has existed since the old metal grey knights. it no wonder he's dated
also for the space marine one you should just split it to HQ, elite fast ect
At least on the Baby Carrier the dude is wearing Armor, Unlike the Astra Militarum walker pilots, who might as well be walking around in Boxers or Briefs. But yea, so close to perfection, then to fail so hard, you just got to try & fail even HARDER.
I have a metal Stern, the face doesn't look nothing like the one on the GW store. Maybe it's the resin, maybe it's the paintjob, who knows
I cannae forgive the wrist mounted bolters
The baby carrier is the biggest reason I never started a GK army
I completely disagree about the dreadknights. With the exception of them not being very possible, they fine without having a more armored front. Their Grey Knight armor is extremely strong, and is capable of handling hits that some imperial tanks would be wrecked by. Not only is the design similar to a lot of power suits in anime and movies (aliens), but real life power suits are designed similarly in a smaller scale.
New codex coming out my sources say no grey knight Primaris coming only refresh is HQ. Games Work shop need a management change.
The only thing that I don't get is people that like the primaris Invicta suit or whatever but don't like the baby carrier, they are the same...
Give the dreadknight to a GBWC modeler and they'll make it more dynamic than a harlequin.
There is a 3rd party company that makes a great upgrade kit for it. Want to says its like $15 US
Loving these vids excellent stuff
Also pop goes the monkey has some baby carrier conversion kit that they just came out with
I can’t believe Crowe was the model they decided to update and not Draigo. This one looked fine, Draigo very much not.
Anyone else noticed how bad the newer storm bolters look front on in comparison to the older ones?
i love how the 3rd model, GW dont even bother to fix their warps
Pretty sure that stern is exactly the same as the metal one I have buried in a case
Voldus does come with a Termie helmet, I got it on him :)
Voldus' sprue does NOT contain a helmet.
That's why I've put the Apothecary one from the Terminator kit on him instead.
Perpotationis u sure? Maybe I’m getting confused with the Dreadknighst, I apologise, sorry :)
get a blood angels dreadnought, it comes with three fronts
The fingers on that brother captain are huuge
lol. Grandmaster Voldus - if you looked at the sprue, his head is seperate, so it is a tiny kitbash to bung a lid on him.
I too share your bareheadedphobia
@@user-4491 No doubt so you can scratch the fleas from your ears.. ;) lol
Not everything needs to be goofy kid-friendly Primaris-fied
Those terminators have mad thigh gaps.
TALL BOI
To be honest really just taking some primaris legs and truescaling them DOUBLES their quality into really solid models.
2 video day
my favorite
GW should just make the same models slightly taller
If you play grey knights you gonna have extra heads
I really dislike grey knights for some reason. The amount of ornaments on the models is just too much for me, i have the same problem with custodes
Those terms look like they took a massive dump in their power undies. They need an update 🤦🏻♂️
if u buy a venerable dreadnougt get some normal sarcophagi u can put on the dreadknight. i did that. much better.
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