Warhammer 40,000 Range Review: Death Guard
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- In today's Range Review we take a look Nurgle's favourite rotty bois, the Death Guard. It's a mixed bag!
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“Very nice. Pretty clean model”
That’s a delightfully ironic description of any Nurgle model
I remember when the new Death Guard models came out, my main issue with them was how overtly bright and clean the GW studio army was painted.
@@RokuroCarisu yeah, death guard green is really bright. I guess it's supposed to look sickly, but I much prefer them to look grimy.
@@RokuroCarisu I agree, that's why I absolutely bathe them in agrax! Solves that problem of having a bright green army a little bit.
Kirioth you've given us a range review almost every other day for the last couple weeks and I just wanted to say thank you. I haven't had much to look forward to every day and having these pop up in my notifications always gets a grin on my face. Thanks
I'm really glad you're enjoying them, I'm doing my best to make sure there's something to provide a bit of light relief/distraction every day!
*Kirioth walks up to Felthius, points finger and says* "I hate your face!"
Old Typhus: "Time to die..."
New Typhus: "BEHOLD THE WIZARD!"
9:04 I dunno, he's pretty fly for a blight guy!
Honestly, anyone who doesn’t like him can buzz off!!
You made me giggle Sir, thank you!
Yes! This is honestly the army I’m considering starting with, and I’m really glad you’re reviewing the line.
I'll level with you this one is more critical on my part, but what really matters is how much YOU like the models, not me. It's your army, you have to pick what excites you the most!
Are you brand new to the edition
SpicyRice Yeah, this would be my first.
@@infernodelta70 Do it, by the time nurgle's plague is over new death guard rules will be release and they will be really strong
Since this is your first death guard are kinda perfect for new people to the edition because the models are relatively available and in game wise powerful and durable, honestly best pick for beginners army
Why no Dark Imperium?
The Lord of Contagion is probably the best Death Guard model, and the Plague marines of that set are awesome!
I want to do them separately and talk about the differences between the models in there and the ones available separately. I thought if I did that in this video it'd be stupidly long!
KiriothTV please do the Heroes box too! 👍🤮👍
There’s an alternative stomach armour for the deathshroud champion that doesn’t have that weird mouth, and you can give him a helmeted head.
For me the cartoony-ness of the death guard is fixed by using darker colours and realistic weathering effects.
Nurgle: happiness
Kirioth: I don't like the smile
Seriously, it seems he's just mostly complaining about major aspects of the death guard and nurgle as a whole. The jolly painless aspect, them being fused to their equipment, the tentacles.
I guess you could say that the models are PLAGUED with too many details
The guy who wants helmets on all of his heads doesn’t like the extraneous flesh bits. Who knew?
Jiado To be fair, their skulls are too bloated to fit into them and their bodies are thick enough to take a few bolter shells easily
Whenever you bring up how an older version of a model looked, it would be nice if you brought it up in another tab for us to see. Like you did with your Daemon Prince video.
I'm planning on doing a full series of old Vs new model videos charting the progression of various ranges since people are enjoying these RRs so much. I'll start with Death Guard!
The fly and the smiling Blightlord are my favourite ones!
I would like to see a range review of Ork stuff, although part of that is wanting to see how quickly Kiri "reviews" the Deffkopta.
The blightlords terminators have multiple choices for the heads. Also I knew I love the new miniatures when I saw the guy smiling. For me it's marvelous
I love the body horror aspect of the Death Guard. I can imagine they will be fun to paint when I finally get around to collecting.
I love the one with the weird smile and no-face helmet. I can also dig Felthius, though the face in general is a bit too Voldemort-y. But smiles, man. Ain't nothing creepier than smiles when it's on the face of something slowly, inexorably walking towards you. I imagine a DG battlefield is filled with low, silent laughter. Not mirthful, belly-shaking laughs. Not edgy grunt-laughing. But a constant drone of "hehehe". From most of them. As they approach. And you try to stop them, but you can't. And you shoot them in their stupid, smiling faces but the laughing still doesn't stop. Pretty sure one of 'em sprouted an extra mouth there just to laugh some more.
And the little daemon bebes definitely cackle maniacally, in a higher pitch. Same with the Poxwalkers.
And why wouldn't they laugh, really. Papa Nurgle always wins in the end.
I don't think the guy knows much about death guard
I just started reading the Horus Heresy saga; currently on Book 4 (The Flight of the Eisenstein) and I just want to say I'm SO glad I stumbled on your channel! It just further enriches the reading experience to me. I love your model reviews and the honesty/level of attention you give to each model. Subscribed!
I'm painting my re-posed Typhus and I totally agree, it isn't a hard kit to convert
I know you!
Heh, friend of mine did once use old Abbadon model as base for Typhus sculpt back in early 2000's... It was marvelous model and better looking than the original model...
24:44 That guy looks like he’s smoking the most flaccid cigar ever.
I love the fly, amazing
edit; i hate felthius and squad though. Oddly, i feel like there is way to much colour here. to me deathguard is decayed in all areas, including vibrancy of colours, but I suppose its easy to paint how you want
I've painted mine in the 30k dg scheme and I definitely prefer the look of them. It's a lot more muted with bronze instead of gold for the trim.
The fly blight lord terminator is the best one ! I was abit sceptical at first but after having the model for awhile and painting it it’s grown on me
5:55 I saw a conversion of Typhus with him holding a skull and spine (Necron?) in his right hand that looked great. Very Predator-ish type pose.
Controversially I like the new Typhus model because I always imagined him embracing the changes Papa Nurgle is making and disease radiating from his celebratory stance
Why I like the Death Guard as a concept, this entire range feels overdesigned to me. Also the GW paintjob does not do them favours as they don't seem disgusting bloated sick creations with that paintjob, but just dudes in green armor
From what I understood, the range is actually based off of one of the game designers customized armies. Which I think is awesome, to be honest. The models and paint schemes have been more passion projects of the designers nowadays and you can really see the love in GW's new models, especially when they make models for stuff like Rogue Trader, with new Kroot models and even more obscure forgotten parts of 40k like Demiurg and Zoat models. It's also why Tau are painted in a pale white and red Vior'la scheme rather than Tau Sept as it used to be; one of the Eavy Metal painters had an army in that scheme and marketing loved it, so they changed the default scheme for Tau.
Yeah they ruined this entire range with childish bullshit slapped onto everything everywhere
@@TheDirtysouthfan I really don't like that they swapped the actual T'au Sept for Vior'la. It seems weird not having T'au for the Tau.
Ah the blessed sons of Mortarion, Hail the Death Guard Legion and its immortal master! my favorite army!
I actually really like all the extra effects and details, things such as the smoke, the flies, blisters, mutations. It really helps set the army range apart from anything else. Without these details DG would just be another version of green space marines. These things sure are challenging to paint but that's just a process that comes down to research, refinement, skill and the broadening of some techniques previously not used. But I can see how these things would be to taxing, I can't even imagine what year I'd be having the time to paint this army up. But army range wise, it's outstanding.
Agreed! there's alot of details and mutations on them that can easily be removed if wanted, but allows the range to be very varied and stand out, after all Nurgle gifts them with constant shifting diseases to take shape and spread. making each varied and stand out on the blightlords is alot of fun, bone-stalks, tentacles, buboes, teeth, blisters, horns, having them appear different with nearly every model adds to the intended chaos of their faction.
@@foulmoodcentral2830 Yep, it's a 'unique selling point' regarding the model range. It just happens to come in the form of organic details which are obviously daunting to paint. The design team has really elevated the Death Guard with these fine details, so much so that even regular infantry look unique from one another. However I still believe GW could do better regarding the assistance, guiding and education of painting all models. For example I still have to contact Eavy Metal painters for certain recipes or I have to use my eye and do days of research trying to figure out how they achieved a certain look. Thankfully they mostly use Citadel paints otherwise it would have been impossible and you could certainly "put your own twist on it" but even in this department GW might release an in-depth guidebook on how color spotting works, how to pick paints in general, how to mix them, use certain techniques and such. They release these amazing models painted up in all their splendor and there's just very little information for the consumer to get their hands on. It really stays a self-help hobby which is fine for the dedicated, but I can completely understand why some people wish to remove all these mutations because they simply have no clue how to paint it vs say more square looking power armor.
Death guard is my first and so far only army, and I do find it hard to look at my terminator squads and feel like the fly boy fits in. Compared to the other models, his only traits are fly traits, no bone spikes, teeth, or extra pipes, he kinda just comes off as a possessed that tagged along because he's the only one that could carry the reaper autocannon. Felthius and his cohort look like concept models made legitimate, all of their Nurgle-esque features are super sized and done up to draw attention, and each one has their features done in one colour to see if they pair well with their armour and to see if it fits the theme.
Death Guard models are a perfect example of GW going way over the top and ending up with goody sculpts
So many awesome models. Thanks for making these range reviews it has introduced me to many models. Looking forward to the next range review. Keep up the good work.
Collecting Death Guard here! Thank you for the review, I have to agree that some of them look a bit too comical or over the top, but can be fixed easily and some can look great: just built the plague marines and my favorite has to be the one with the blight launcher, for which I used all parts with maggots, he looks like it's more maggots inside the armor than Astartes, but it's a subtle effect. What do you think of the Lord of Contagion and the Noxious Blightbringer (Dark Imperium box)?
the absence of World Eaters and Emperors Children from ''Chaos Armies''in GW site is giving me my nerves
I really like the Blightlord terminators! I like the Felthius and cohort kit because the price.
The paint style is the main problem with them, I prefer the dark grey of the old models
A lot of the more complex models suffer from the Heavy Metal paint style. The focus on heavy edge highlighting makes them seem busy and cluttered, where a more gritty paint scheme tends to work better from what i've seen.
Funny I actually love the fly arms, but to each his own, maybe if the arms where in a another place? I dunno..
6:00 You can easily repose the scythe arm for Typhus, u just use one of the left handed scythes from the deathshroud kit and chop and swap the hand segment.
The way I see the gun horn-growths is that, since the horns on the gun are much smaller, it is a much more recent infestation or it has just had less contact with the disease in question, but still has had contact with it through consistent but not constant contact with its gunman
I just feel like they just threw everything at the wall when they made the new death guard models. Before it was rusted marines falling apart from the inside out with lots of piping and worn down armour now its horns and tentacles sticking out from everywhere, it's all over the place.
Before, DG were more about decay. Now they're about plagues.
T1JumpTIX Couldn’t agree more my man, the whole Death Guard ethos was about being plain and not fancy and now it feels like it’s so far over the top it’s more comical than horror.
@@MakinaMakinaMakina Yup
First lmfaooooooo. ... really looking into Chaos!
I agree fully with you on the model of Typhus. He is a being of inexhaustible death. Give me a figure hunched with a striding pose, with a manreaper held behind him at a slight angle.
I agree with your opinion on the fly-terminator. He's always the first to die when my termie squad takes casualties...The Death Guard models are extremely busy. Then can be such a chore to paint...
I am planning on starting a death guard army. Got dark imperium for Christmas and finished the models a few weeks ago. The primaris are cool and all, but these guys were a joy to work on for me. I agree that some of the models are not as good but i like most of them.
One thing that has stood out for me is the lack of gas masks, sure it might be a small thing, but it adds immeasurably to their character and would acknowledge the Death Guard's primary form of warfare: NBC. Such a missed opportunity, it can still be fixed, mostly via converting and third party, but you shouldn't have to.
I think your right about octopus tentacles being more tzeentch given he is all about intellect and manipulation. It also might just be because they keep making them blue and pink to contrast the green armor.
The thing is the plague marines are very very customisable
There are so many helmet/shoulder pad/weapon combos you can do that they don’t show on the box art or website
I know it’s a lot to ask but actually buying and building the kit will give you a better feel for it
I'm still surprised The Thousand Sons didn't get the busy looking mutations being the faction it's mostly referenced to in the books.
This is mainly because 90% of them are hollow suits of armor so there is nothing to mutate.
@@jpem4664 Never was a fan of that I must admit as I was around from before that was a thing.
Mainly as there was a really great little bit of fluff before a Epic battle report of a regular Thousand Sons space marine compartimalizing his memories deciding which of his recent experiences are worth keeping and which can be forgotten given that even for a 10k year old renegade his mind is finite.
14:50 We need a miniseries on this. Or perhaps a whole multi-season show.
Love the use of 'clean' describing Nurgles minions
I'm none too fussed about DG myself, though I can appreciate bits from the other ranges which are used for inspiration, ie the censer burners being in the Ad Mech line.
I am EAGERLY anticipating the range review for the Ad Mech, I hope you make it when the Archaeopter & Outrider Guys come out but at the same time thAT'S NOT SOON ENOUGH GW AHHHHHHH
Love the range reviews dude - keep them up. Makes me look at either armies I have glanced over or familiar favourites in a new way.
It's incredible to which degree I agree with your opinions over such a subjective topic as miniature design. Not only that, but you often make me realize why in particular I like/dislike certain models when I couldn't even figure out the reasons myself.
Typhus’s new model feels like it’s meant to be more cartoony like the nurglings
i could never bring myself to like the environmental effects like the smoke of slime, they never look so unrealistic and obscure so much shape and figure from the model.
If you're looking for realism, you're in the wrong hobby
Most of the range is too busy and goofy for my taste, I like the OOP FW death guard upgrade kits a lot more, they looked more grim.
Totally agree.
I feel like the reason you dislike the grinning faces is because you're forgetting that nurgles followers actually are quite the merry bunch.
Never made sense to me, but thats how GW wrote them in the lore..
Personally, RE: Typhus, I'd have preferred a pose like his art in the book. It's stationary but stoic and very intimidating. But I can see that stoic don't sell models.
The Deathshroud kit is awesome! It comes with an extra pair of shoulderpads and an extra torso that is plain. So you don't have to use the stomach mouth torso :)
For the Blightlord Terminators, there is actually a decent amount of option in that kit and even if the kit is meant to be monopose it's rather easy to change things up and still make it work
There's a book (I cant remember what its called) where a plague marine comes home from fighting and starts writing in his library. So that's what they do in their free time @kirioth!
Lords of Silence, I loved that book
A 30 minute video on a subject I really needed it on, thank you so much!
Mortarion is the Single coolest model in the entire game.
Question I have for anyone who's into the lore
Why do these followers of Nurgle have so many tenticles I thought that was a Tzeench or Slaaneshy thing, in my mind I never thought tenticles or blatant mutation when I thought of the Death Guard, If im honest I thought bloated stomachs, gas masks and rotting armor and shit, all these tenticles and smoke and cartoony flies just make me not want to collect a Deathguard army
Mutation is a consequence of all contact with Chaos. It's just that some Chaos folks manage to avoid it for longer than others.
I just put my Typhus together today and left the flies and the smoke off his back. honestly... I prefer it that way, partly cos I prefer the aesthetic and partly cos I suck at painting smoke xD
As a death guard player, I love the models of course. But I do understand your opinion, especially since you are an emp children player, you strive for perfection
This video can basically be summed up by considering each models’ Terminator/fly ratio.
Lot of choices with the plague marines so luckily you can cut out the stuff you don't like. But I agree with the over-complication issue, they're my first ever army and are terrifying to paint which is weird considering they are part of the starter set.
You felt a little nit-picky about some of the infantry models, if only because I've put together a lot of those kits that aren't easy to build, and the options mean you get sooo much variety. If anything, you can make your own models among the Plague Marines, Blightlord Termies, and Deathshroud Termies as over-the-top or regular as you want across the board. And as far as the Foetid Bloat Drones go... I've got 4!
Lol I built one of my squad leaders with ALL the faces just to say that was his mutation. He just got uber mutated.
The one thing I hate about the lord fesltus terminators is that one of them can be and probably should have been modeled with a melee weapon since it can use one along with its plauge flamer weapon. I had to green stuff a bile sword on but still.
I actually find the faces to be very thematic, they're becoming more and more like Nurgle, creepy grin and diseased skin, happy to be blessed with the task to spread more and more contagion and decay. Yes, they look odd, but I think it's intended.
Warning : the myphytic blighthauler might be "easy to build" but after making 3 and painting them, they are not easy to build. The parts on the guns and the cover on the track at the back just do not fit together properly. I tried to push them in with pliers, brute force, I tried filing down the inside to make them fit better, no matter what you do you will get a MASSIVE gap on the weapons and at the back. If you make yours, get yourself some green stuff and a sculpting tool, unless you don't mind calling big gaps "battle damage", but yeah they are horrible to work with. Horrible.
Thanks for the video Kiri!
A demon primarch - from my point of view - is a mockery of all that's imperial. To me those flies are the parodies of the kerubs we can see - for example - on the living saint of the Emperor. Anyway, thank you for the review and best of wishes from Hungary.
Or you could heat bend those chains and make them look better. Easy tool for it would be glue gun's muzzle... Just saying...
The fly looking terminator im pretty sure the inspiration is from a roman gladiator helmet. Just look it up on google.
I'm glad they're not zombies, as man are zombies horribly played out and at least these are something a bit different.
Agree on Typhus though. Old one just had this utter menace that this newer one doesn't even come close to replicating.
Im a fan if DG, imo theyre way more interesting to paint than other CSM or just SM
I would love it if it came out the bombard was designed from the plaguecrawler. But to hide that they nicked a design from a chaos legion they rewrote the history books to make it look like the bombard came first.
Can you make a review on the space marine/primaris range? Preferably two separate vids because the ranges are so massive.
Octopi = Tzeentch, probably isn't as random you think, much in the way Tzeentch uses a lot of crow imagert to represent change & cunning, Octopi are hugely intelligent creatures, with a heavy emphasis on unique evolutionary structure.
They're another animal that metaphorically or (old-school) spiritually represent everything Tzeentch represent, & now I want more cool animal-esq themes in the Tzeentch line's....
Glory to grandfather coff coff... NURGLE!
For me Octopus tentacles are tzeentch, smooth tentacles are Slaanesh, mechanical 'tentacles' are khorne, mobile slime tentacles are Nurgle
I always liked nurgle and the death guard, but i share a lot of your views with these models. Most just have too much stuff on them. I will chop up some primaris and create my own plague marines.
i have a Deathguard and an Iron Warriors, a lot of alterations went into my armies
Didn't go over the Death Guard stuff from Dark Imperium boxset?
Death guard where I started and haven't left yet... Damn there's so much to paint especially for first time painter
Great video the only disagreement I have with you is the biologious putrifier (God knows if that’s spelt correctly) as it feels different to the rest of the entire Death Guard line. To ‘clean’ just not enough iconography and pestilent fecundity for me. It is also the only model in the entire range still sitting unpainted on my desk 🤔
Great review, would disagree on the reasoning behind the gun horns you complained about, if not the execution. A marine doesn't have to carry their weapon 24/7 for it to become an extension of their body, even loyalists do that. Living in the eye literally causes their emotional attachments to their wargear to become manifest through stuff like weapons gaining the appearance of their owner in subtle ways. As I say, I'm not too sure of the execution on that particular combi bolter but in theory it does fit with the lore.
Thank you Kitioth, I love this series, please do more for 40k and AoS! Thank you for your hard work.
Gw should really cut it with goo and smoke tbh
My dad was in the death guard. I can confirm that games workshop has done them some justice.
I feel like the problem with 40k burgle is that a lot of the designs look like they want to be in Age of Sigmar. And also the faces... just give them a serious face. I know that Nurgle takes away your pain and makes you jovial and stuff, but they just *look* goofy. When it comes down to it, they’re still Chaos Space Marines, yet they have more of a drunk Ork feel.
I also feel the tentacles are more of a Tzeench thing.
I would really like more cthonic elements in Tzeench and less cthonic in other factions, except for maybe Tyranids.
I agree with mortarian, great model, but wouldn't mind some less stuff to look at, cause fist time I saw him, I thought it was some butterfly thing
First time I saw felthius, I thought he looked stupid, but then I saw him painted and kinda like his face now. Also goes with the happy, goofy great unclean one vibe
12:07 Is it really a surprise to anyone that Lord FELTCHious is sporting a shit-eating grin? 😎
He's absolutely perfect!
Felthius looks derpy, and I love it
I like deathguard as a concept along with gameplay but the execution in models is rough I find
The good are poxwalkers, noxious blightbringer , vehicles and mortarion where as anything that is space marine based look kind of weird with the amount of tentacles they have and the scaling of body parts.
Overall still debating adding a deathguard auxiliary force to my iron warriors for some extra toughness and objective holding
I'd rather they all look more like morty with his more zombie esq appearance with horns.
Yeah the plague faces coming out of the plague marines are kind of annoying to me. I get they are supposed to look gross but i don't want to paint flesh because i am garbage at it. So i am just going to paint bronze over it
I just can't stand that light, almost pastel green they chose for the studio models. Even with all the gribbly detail on the sculpts, the light colour palette just makes them look way too clean for my tastes. Nurgle should be dank, dark and earthy.
Yeah I really love death gaurd but the paint job that GW does really makes them look way too light and comicy
Update on PA- confirmed Harlequins and deathwatch only factions not to be included in PA. As a harlequin player who started in 7th suffering the difficulty using them in that broken edition, only to go into 8th and suffer trying to get the combat based glass cannons to even have a chance in the new edition, to then get nothing new in the codex to then get a few possible rules thrown at me in a WD when every other faction has something in a PA showing they are part of the narrative. I'm so depressed I was going to return after a 2 year break but if GW don't care about my faction why should I?