Thanks for watching! To dig deeper, Simon provided a comprehensive list of studies and resources to support his statements, which you can find on the episode of page of my website under the tab 'References' (near the bottom of the page) here: bit.ly/richroll638
Thank you for pinning that comment. Very important. You’ll surely get some haters or at least critics in the comment section, so it’s good they just can read the studies mentioned themselves.
As a 68 year old woman with a 60 year history of being 20 to 150 pounds over weight in any past time period I can report that by following a WFPB diet since July 2020 I have dropped 100 pounds. My serum cholesterol has dropped from 240 to 170. I am swimming a mile most days and walk and jog 3-5 miles on other days. I feel so good everyday. I am just a regular person and not part of a scientific study. I look for recipes on UA-cam and most days start with a big salad and lentil/quinoa/buckwheat flat bread smeared with my hummus, Next meal is hearty vegetables soup with my flat bread and more salsa/hummus. Final meal is grains fruit nuts and soy milk. My meals are tasty and varied. I am so glad I discovered WFPB diet. Life transformational.
@Rita Sewell Thank you for sharing, Rita. I'm 63 and have been over 200# since 1984, over 300# since 2013. I've been inconsistently HCLF WFPB since 2016, addicted to fast food and sugar. I thought it was too late to make a permanent change.. You just gave me the hope to get back on the wagon. From my heart to yours, gratitude.
My dad had a heart attack when I was 16 and just died last year before I turned 30. I recently asked my doctor if I could do some preventive checkups for cardiovascular diseases -I was rejected since I do not have any symptoms (insurance only kicks in once you are sick). Then I read your book Running Ultra and I am eating plant-based since 1 month. I started taking responsibility for my own health (and nutrition). I hope it will prevail. Thanks for sharing your story!
You got this. Heart disease is the #1 killer and plant based diet is the one diet scientifically shownn to not just prevent, but reverse it. Don't lose that motivation either. HEalth is wealth. the biggest lesson of the pandemic. without health, you have nothing.
Plants cause heart disease and inflammation. You want to go on an animal-centric diet if you want to be ultra healthy. Vegan diet is a fast, so you’re starving the body with zero nutrition. The reciprocal of Vegan isn’t necessarily carnivore, but rather all animal foods. Animal foods is what we were designed to eat. Our digestive systems are closest to wolves. We’re not designed to eat plants. We can’t digest plants, period.
Dylan Schwarz bullshit, plant based diet is a superficial diet of fasting starvation. When the body goes into autophagy on a plant based diet that is how the heart disease reverses, but we’re talking 6 weeks max or 42 days. After that the body begins to really attack itself on a plant.based diet. Animal centric diet full of dietary cholesterol is the cure for inflammation and heart disease. It’s the plants and seed oils in an omnivore diet that are the bad bits that are preventing health from animal foods.
@@camwhitman5425 "Plants cause heart disease and inflammation." As a university professor who researches and teaches about nutrition and nutrition myths at the university level, I get incredibly frustrated when people post blatant misinformation like that. JUNK FOOD vegan diets are unhealthy, but well-planned diets dominated by WHOLE plant foods (whether vegan, vegetarian, or very low in animal foods) are the healthiest way of eating. Plant foods have on average eight times the antioxidant power of animal foods, so diets full of whole plant foods are the best diets for REDUCING inflammation and oxidative stress. Research proves this. As for heart disease, the ONLY diets shown in multiple multi-year clinical trials to stop even serious heart disease in its tracks and achieve some reversal are very low fat whole food vegan diets. Meanwhile, experimental studies prove that eating lots of saturated animal fat is causal in heart disease. "Vegan diet is a fast, so you’re starving the body with zero nutrition." Uh, spinach has higher nutrient density than beef liver does, and kale has higher nutrient density than a sirloin steak. Research studies find vegans to have a similar number of micronutrient deficiencies to omnivores, or to have FEWER micronutrient deficiencies. Meanwhile, for every essential amino acid, there are multiple plant foods with DIAAS scores over 100 and at least one with a DIAAS score over 110. "Our digestive systems are closest to wolves." Uh, except for the fact that 1) they have lots of long sharp canines to help them rip flesh and we only have a few wimpy ones, 2) their jaws only go up and down, whereas our can go sideways to grind/chew foods, 3) we evolved digestive enzymes to help us digest starches more efficiently, 4) Their stomach acid is much lower than ours, 5) their colon is straight, short, and smooth whereas ours is long, curved, and sacculated, and other differences. "We can’t digest plants, period." Humans have been eating LOTS of plant foods in most places and for most of our history, starting with being nearly vegan when we came down from the trees, and continuing through Paleolithic people who were eating 105 g of plant fiber a day (six times what the average American eats), the early humans 780,000 years ago in Israel who were found to be eating 55 different plant foods, the nearly-vegetarian humans in Spain tens of thousands of years ago, and all the various tribes who get 70+% of their calories from whole plant foods. Most human evolution and history occurred in Africa, a warm continent with abundant fruits, veggies, grains, legumes, and nuts. Finally, ALL of the best overall long-term health outcomes have come from people eating diets in which most calories and nutrients came from whole plant foods. ALL of them. I'm not sure where you are getting your information on nutrition, but boy are they misleading people!!! Take care.
@@camwhitman5425 "Animal centric diet full of dietary cholesterol is the cure for inflammation and heart disease." All other things being equal, he more cholesterol you eat, the more oxidized cholesterol you have in your body. The physiologically-normal LDL level for the human mammal is 34-70, and above that, you get more heart disease. Oils ARE unhealthy, but so is eating lots of saturated animal fat. BOTH are unhealthy, as are added sugar and lots of processed carbs AND too much animal fat and protein. You have to dodge all the obstacles. "When the body goes into autophagy on a plant based diet that is how the heart disease reverses, but we’re talking 6 weeks max or 42 days. " No, very low-fat diets dominated by whole plant foods prevent heart disease across a lifetime. Ask the Tsimane tribe, healthiest arteries on the planet, and they get 70% of their calories from carbs, meaning 80-85% of their calories are from plant foods.
After 15 years working in animal agriculture as a federal inspector doing investigations seeing the things that I did I feel duped. I was lied to about our food system. I thought much like most that we had to eat animals to live. Now 8 years without!! The abuse torture and things I can’t even say are now fuel for me to help others make the connection that we are all here together. That 5 minute meal you had last Tuesday that you’ll never remember was their entire life, their entire existence. It ain’t right.
I’m sure you are bound by NDA’s… if we treated humans like we treat our animal food sources, whole organizations would be jailed for crimes against humanity. It truely is crimes against life. Fully unsustainable… and we have developed a culture that is completely removed from the traditional spiritual connection with their food and a practice of harmony and gratefulness with our food. No one I know gives a tip about their food source, be them vegan or carnivore, both of which have sustainable and unsustainable practices…
@@csleung444 that’s wonderful! I have a YT channel as well. I share my experiences as often as I can via interviews, podcasts and docs! Hopefully, they’ll open up that window of compassion 🌱
Simon, it is astounding how you commit to memory and articulate such great knowledge, with no notes and no iPad. Must be the veggies, nuts & seeds. Thank you!
Lol. It’s his livelihood to promulgate false dietary propaganda and so it’s not difficult to remember. He does stutter a little bit which is the vegan brain fog rearing it’s ugly head.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill the negative comments on here about what you said with regards to lipids is interesting. Apparently you've provided the evidence we need animals to eat 😏
@@camwhitman5425 I'm with ya to a point. I think plants or animals products is 100% healthier then anything food like item produced in a factory by recombination of base elements then fortified with vitamins. If it was real food you wouldn't need to add vitamins to it. So as a ballpark time I feel anything invented for consumption since the 1700s should not be considered food. They are a few things invented prior to that year that was considered food at the time, but I should hope no longer is being eaten. Like bread filled with chalk to make it whiter. Eat real food from farms not factories. The world's metabolic health is at stake.
I totally agree with the other comments about the excellent content of this interview. I will add only this: I really appreciated the low-key, thoughtful tone and pace of the conversation. It gave my brain the space to slow down and actually process the information I was taking in. Such a relief from all the frenzy and hype. Thank you so much for believing in the intelligence of your audience.
I went plant based for 3 months and it drastically changed my life. I actually got more protein. Whenever I ate I could still be energized and not tired. Sleep was way better. I didn’t have digestion issues. Also lost weight without trying. It’s definitely something to stay on.
I've been 2 years vegan (whole foods) eating 2x the fiber RDI and my relationship with food is better than ever. I have plenty of energy and I've learned a bunch of new recipes and cuisines. And I've been able to help others to eat more plants and get their nutrition in order. TY to Rich Roll & Simon & the team for making this info known in a quality & digestible format.
Don't forget to get your essential amino acids and all your B vitamins. Lot of ex vegans complain about not getting enough from just plants without good supplements.
I started with vegetarianism about 35years ago, not for the health benefits, but for my compassion and love for Animals. But recently, started exclusively eating plant based, no eggs, no dairy, no nothing that comes from exploited Animals.My “meat” is tempeh, broccoli, chicken peas, lentils, beans, and other great plant sources of protein.
At The Age Of 32 I was 50% blocked in my arteries when i ate lots of meat and cheese and had to have a single graph bypass,Wake up people plants are friends! i've been plant based for 2 years now and lost 60 lbs and dont have anymore chest pain!
guess you will just have to take my word for it,but if you look at all the stories of people going plant based they all have a story of restoring health!
@@ChuckBoomBuck have you had any follow ups about your arteries and your health has it helped you become more active and what is your staple do you eat legumes, starches etc
He's the wiser and better version of Greger... Greger unfortunately makes false claims ("plant based diet is the ONLY diet proven to REVERSE the progression of heart disease"), which is totally unnecessary if you want to promote a plant based diet. I only contributes to polarising the debate and losing your credibility.
Two years later I am glued to the screen, listening with open mouth. Rich, this one and the next one talk with Simon (I watched the second conversation first 😀), are of enormous value to me. Thank you.
I could listen to Simon all day long. Rich has fast become my favorite podcast. I’m a newby making my transition back to plant based and love the information I’m getting from your channel…..God Bless !!!!
That intro was on fire! He hit the nail on the head here, the qualities he listed in Simon are exactly what you want to look for when seeking out information. People who are calm, collected, evidence based, have an education targeted specifically at nutrition. Very excited to listen to this one.
Mr. Hill raises a very good point that we should not just look at a single study to determine what is really going on with diet and health. We need to look at the totality of research on a particular question. That is my pet peeve about the news media--the reporter typically reports on just one study and claims that it alone shows what is going on! Reporters so often do not put an individual study in context. Hats off to Simon for bringing good critical thinking to the arena of diet and health! Thanks to Rich Roll for bringing Mr. Hill's thoughtful and strong analysis to the public!
This podcast is one of, if not, the best single source of nutrition information I have come across. Purchasing Simon’s book in a couple of days to add to my wellspring of data. As a Personal Trainer, who is also entering the physical therapy world in a couple of years, I fight daily to inform my clients on the amazing benefits of adopting a whole foods, plant centered diet. It’s my life’s mission 🦾 Thank you for this great segment 🙌
Anybody noticed that since going plant based you actually want to exercise more? It’s not just performance and recovery on the body but it’s motivating me to get up and do.
Love you, Rich, and all the work you do! Thank you so much for contributing to health of our Planet!!!!! Excellent info, Simon! Thank you for sharing all the research! We are blessed having you, guys, and others like you on Earth!!! 🙏🙏👍👍🌱🌱🌱🌱🤗♥️🌱🌱 26 years with no meat and 16 years being vegan and will remain vegan for life. Blessings!!!
once again, rich roll has hirt the jackpot with this podcast and this interview.....thanks for continuing the talk on impact of plants in our world....
Brilliant conversation. Didn't expect anything less. Simon's insights are always helpful. He's an amazing communicator just like RR. Thanks for posting all the references!
THANK YOU!!! For talking about FH!! I have FH and was not formally diagnosed until my 40’s, I have massive atherosclerosis (CAC score of 798) even through I had a highly plant based diet since my 20’s. Never overweight and always active and athletic. Moderate junky food. I’m now 59, I eat a predominately plant based healthy pescatarian diet. (Now with meds and diet my LDL that was near 400 is holding in the 60’s) My son was diagnosed at 16 (he’s 18 now) an athlete and a honor student off to college. He’s on statins and he sees the anti statin rhetoric. I showed him this discussion, it helped me so much. I am an advocate for the FH society, but I’m his mom, so he doesn’t listen 😉 It’s SO appreciated to see our condition addressed. As a mom, and an FH patient Thank you again
Thank you Rich for letting us watch/hear a truly meaningful discussion with Simon Hill. As a Cal Poly educated Biologist, I found the information presented profound!
Don't forget your essential amino acids and fatty acids. There are no essential carbohydrates, so be sure to supplement properly esp vitamin B's. Take care. It's great to get away from man made food and get back the real farm raised food.
@@artemishunter8993 " There are no essential carbohydrates" That's technically true, but the best overall long-term health outcomes have consistently come from diets in which most calories come from whole food carbs.
@@HealingLifeKwikly ok... good luck with diabetes, alzheimer, dementia, depression, ED, PCOS, heart disease, cancer, blindness, gum disease, skin tags, candia, gall stones, kidney stones, gout, incontinence, infections. Take care. I like watching Dr Paul Mason, Ben Bikman PhD, Dr Georgia Ede, Prof Tim Noakes, Dr Gary Fettke, Dave Feldman, Ivor Cummins, Gary Taubes, Nina Teicholz, Amber O'Hearn, Peter Ballersted, Dr Sarah Hallberg, Dr Jason Fung
@@artemishunter8993 Thanks for your reply. As a university researcher and professor, part of what I teach and research nutrition--and nutrition myths. In that role, I've spent quite a bit of time studying how people get confused by half-truths, misleading labels for diets, and the fatal restriction of range problems that plague so much nutrition research. Thus, I have posted replies on videos/websites by Mason, Bikman, Ede, Noakes, Fettke, Feldman, Cummins, Taubes, Teicholz, Hallberg, Fung, and I believe O'Hearn... explaining how their videos or writings are misleading people. The first giant problem that cuts across the claims of virtually all low-carb gurus is that most research on "carbs" is actually on processed carbs, but the evidence is overwhelming that eating truly WHOLE food carbs is SUPER healthy whereas we also know that eating lots of processed carbs is unhealthy. How this results in vast misinformation in the writings and videos of Fung, Taubes, Teicholz, and the others is that they REPEATEDLY cite a study that was actually on unhealthy processed carbs and added sugars but then turn around in the next sentence and act as if this indicts all carbs. Scientifically, this is misleading nonsense, but unfortunately, they do it over and over again and such misuse of evidence is usually pivotal to their whole case. I've analyzed hundreds of such misstatements on low-carb sites and videos. Significantly, your own comments reflect exactly this kind of deep confusion about diet: BOTH diets high in animal foods/fat cause more of the health problems you cited AND diets high in processed carbs/added sugars promote more of those diseases. However, you can REVERSE diabetes, heart disease, etc. on whole food diets very high in whole food carbs, and in fact, the best overall long-term health outcomes for those conditions (including dementia) have been achieved on diets that are very high in whole plant food carbs. Dementia is ramping up rapidly in Asia, and the food component most strongly linked to more dementia is higher consumption of animal fat. Sugary foods do promote gout, but a key trigger is saturated animal fat and animal foods high in purines. The diseases you listed (and numerous others) are rare to nonexistent in people eating a very low fat whole food plant-based diet. The second giant problem that cuts across all those folks and most nutrition research (although I'm not sure I've ever analyzed Ballersted's works/claims) is that diets and biomarker status are routinely labeled in misleading ways. Lift the hood on Cummins' videos claiming folks with "normal" or "low" LDL levels have just as many CVD events, and you will find that in some studies, what was called "normal" or "low" LDL was actually under 100, under 130, or even under 140. Physiologically-normal LDL is actually ~35-70, so that is happening in those videos (and the field) is that you are just comparing some people with high LDL (and who often used to even have higher LDL) with other people who also had high LDL. Similarly, all the "low-fat" diets that supposedly didn't work in past research, those studies are overwhelmingly 25-30% calories from fat, and all folks usually did is cut a little fat and replace it with some processed carbs and added sugars. Thus, you get the misleading conclusion of "no harm" for eating more saturated fat because fat was actually being compared to eating processed carbs-which we know are unhealthy. So it's not that more saturated fat didn't cause preventable harm-it's that it caused as much harm as processed carbs and added sugars. The better studies are clearly showing higher animal fat consumption cause more disease if you compare it to eating whole plant foods/carbs instead. Similarly, Mason's video on supposedly "high-fiber" diets actually compares different low-fiber diets: Truly high fiber diets are 70 grams of fiber or more. The third giant problem is that all those authors leave readers/viewers in the dark of a mountain of studies showing that very low fat whole food plant based diets have achieved the best results for obesity, diabetes, heart disease, cancer, and much more. Some of them may truly be ignorant of this research, but my hunch is that some of them (e.g., Taubes) have found a way to make a buck telling people who don’t know the science well what they want to hear. Take care.
@@artemishunter8993 For example, here's what I posted on Hallberg's TED talk video: Comment on Sarah Hallberg diabetes TED talk video ua-cam.com/video/da1vvigy5tQ/v-deo.html As someone who studies and teaches nutrition, she simply doesn’t know the big picture of nutrition and knows just enough to be dangerous to people’s long-term health. It is troubling that a practitioner in this field does not know that you can control blood glucose eating diets that are VERY high in whole food carbs and that the best overall long-term health outcomes have been achieved on diets dominated by whole food carbs. Yes you can also lose weight and improve weight on very low-carb and high-fat diets (which she recommends), but those create lots of other health risks, from heart disease to neurological diseases and cancers. At 4:04 she shows a chart purporting to show the different blood glucose spikes resulting from eating carbs, fats, and protein, but in reality, the amount of spike you get depend on what else you are eating and how much fat you had in your blood and muscles when you ate. Most Americans eat a LOT of fat and have a LOT of fat in their muscles, and that excess fat in their muscles (intramyocellular lipids) causes insulin resistance. But experimental research varying fat and carb intake from very high fat and very low carbs to very high carbs and very low fat found the lowest blood glucose levels came from very high carbs and very low fat (around a 10-1 ratio). Then she says "So, when we eat carbohydrates, our insulin and blood glucose levels are going to spike up fast." Not quite: Depends on the TYPES of carbs you eat and what you eat with them. Eating a very low fat diet with INTACT grains will cause a slow release of and rise in and glucose levels. (Notice that this is exactly the kind of conflation of processed carbs with whole food carbs that is endemic in the low-carb world). Notice she is talking about eating those macronutrients in isolation, but that's not how real diets work, and as I noted before, eating more fat INCREASES the blood glucose spike you get from eating carbs. Then she talks about cravings after eating a big meal of Chinese food, and blames it on the rice: Actually, American-style Chinese meals are usually very high in fat and protein too, but are often doused with lots of MSG-which is what triggers those cravings. Then she says if you eat carbs, your glucose goes up, your insulin goes up, and you have hunger and fat storage. Again, she is talking about PROCESSED carbs in the context of eating too much fat-which impairs your body’s ability to process large quantities of carbs as it evolved to do. The largest slim and diabetes-free populations (before they adopted the western diet) ate diets dominated by WHOLE FOOD carbs (wheat, rice, potatoes). Furthermore, the all-you-can-eat diet that achieved the best weight loss at 1 year was a plant-based diet that is very high in carbs. Similarly, researchers have rapidly reversed diabetes on diets with 70+% of calories from carbs-but eat WHOLE FOOD carbs. No, 40-65 grams of carbs per meal is not “a lot of carbs.” Lots of slim and diabetes-free populations ate lots more carbs than that-but they ate WHOLE FOOD carbs. In a study I cite below, blood glucose levels were brought under control in three weeks as people got off their meds eating a diet with 337 grams of carbs a day (her narrow paradigm won’t understand how that is possible). It sounds like she mostly has experience with people eating various unhealthy diets, and doesn’t understand there are super-healthy high-carb diets that reverse diabetes. 6:02 Then she says that “at its root, diabetes is a state of carbohydrate toxicity.” No, at its root, diabetes is when the body’s normal ability to process large quantities of carbs has been impaired (mostly by fat consumption, but also by too many calories and sedentary lifestyles). Eating lots of saturated fat steadily impairs the functioning of the insulin producing beta cells in the pancreas, while consumption of saturated fat and especially animal fat increases fat inside muscle cells (vegans have been found to have about one third less than omnivores). 6:07 Yes, we can’t get the glucose into the cells because they are too fatty-diabetes is caused by lipotoxicity 6:20 Then she asks about “why oh why” we keep asking people to eat carbs. Probably because the best diets for reversing heart disease and for overall long-term health outcomes are diets dominated by whole food carbs. Meanwhile, studies have shown low-carb diets to have significantly higher rates of all-cause mortality (but it sounds like all that lies beyond her expertise). I am seven minutes in and she still hasn’t distinguished between WHOLE FOOD carbs, like intact grains-which the body handles well-versus the junky processed foods that is the context for most of the carb intake she sees. So she is making blanket statements about the effects of carbs that are dead wrong with respect to whole food carbs. 7:30 Yes, Type 2 diabetes CAN reversed, and multiple studies have shown it can be reversed on whole food plant-based diets that are very in whole food carbs. For example, in a randomized controlled trial, a macrobiotic diet with 73% calories from WHOLE FOOD carbs dropped diabetics’ blood glucose levels from 129 to 95 and LDL cholesterol from 102 to 62-in just 3 weeks! Soare A, Khazrai YM, Del Toro R, et al. The effect of the macrobiotic Ma-Pi 2 diet vs. the recommended diet in the management of type 2 diabetes: the randomized controlled MADIAB trial. Nutr Metab (Lond). 2014;11:39. 7:55 No, we don’t “need” carbs, but we don’t need arms or eyes either, and the best long-term health outcomes have been achieved on higher-carb diets. Yes, you can get people to lose weight on low-carb, high-fat diets, but they have poorer long-term outcomes, and especially if you are eating animal fat, you are dramatically increasing patients’ exposure to industrial and agricultural toxins-which naturally concentrate at high levels in animal fats. 12:55 Finally gets to whole grains, but doesn’t seem to know research showing you can reverse diabetes eating LOTS of whole intact grains. She just doesn’t seem very well-read on the topic, and isn’t helping the audience distinguish between eating “whole grain pasta” and eating acting whole grains of farro, barley, long-grain rice, etc. 13:50 Says cutting carbs is going to be good for you, even if it is not necessary. Doesn’t she know low-carb diets are linked to higher all-cause mortality? Doesn’t she know higher consumption of WHOLE grains is linked to greater longevity? Apparently not. 14:40 Now she’s talking about the research on low-carb diets, but doesn’t tell you these studies are overwhelmingly one year or shorter. Of course you can improve biomarkers in the short run if you can get people to lose weight-even if the diet is unhealthy in the long run. When researchers have followed people who have eaten this way for many years and decades, low-carb diets increase mortality. And what’s the best diet for stopping and reversing our #1 killer-heart disease, a whole food plant-based diet with only about 10% calories from fat. 16:50 Asks why low-carb isn’t the norm: She doesn’t know that is because the evidence indicates low-carb is less healthy overall in the long run. Sad to see such a smart caring person who got turned around because she just doesn’t have a deep big-picture understanding of the research on overall long-term health. 16:58 critiquing the low-fat direction over recent decades, but doesn’t know the research well-enough to know that the “low-fat” diets that didn’t work in the studies she is referring to (Siri-Tarino et al.; Chowdhury, et al.) were really medium HIGH-fat diets with 25-30% calories from fat (the diets yielding the best results are more like 8-15% calories from fat). " Side note: So this is another classic example of how people in the low-carb community routinely fool themselves and others about carbs, diet, and health. Take care.
This is a badass podcast! Thank you Rich for inviting Simon on your podcast. I would never know Simon otherwise. Today is the day I go 100% vegan. I had been phasing in my vegan journey the last 6 months. How timely can this be that I learn about Simon! Buying his book too! Thank you.
@@artemishunter8993 like Robert Lustig, have watched his YT vid about sugar and processed foods. Robert Lustig is not anti vegan, he is anti processed/franken foods. Robert Lustig has also been a guest on Chef AJ, a vegan whole food plant based advocate. Nina Teicholz is funded by the beef industry.
finally some logic around that issue. I'm vegan since 2013 and my son is vegan from birth, same year, this conversation made me feel so much better about our family choice . thank you !!
Made you feel better? So you were having doubts based on some issue perhaps. Vegan is a non-nutritional diet. It’s a fast. That’s not healthy beyond 6 weeks.
Watched the podcast with Dr. B and the one with Nimai Delgado, both of which were excellent. The one with Simon Hill is extraordinary. His recall is astounding and extremely informative. LOVE the science across all the topics. Thank you Rich Roll!!!
Paul Diamond 0 seconds ago I was scheduled for surgery to replace the cataract damaged lenses in both eyes. With my wife, I changed to eating a plant based diet, recommended by my DO. After a month, the osteo arthritis pain I suffered in my toes, plantar, heels, ankles, knees, elbows, wrists and fingers (each confirmed by xray images) disappeared. Almost a year after going plant based diet, my cataracts cleared in both eyes. I phoned the optometrist and requested a new vision test before my scheduled cataract surgery. She agreed. After the new exam, she cancelled the cataract surgery for my eyes! - It was a big step to give up all meat, dairy, processed foods, oils, etc. But, the rewards to me far exceed the compromises. (Age 74!)
The most intelligent, thoughtful, inspiring and informative discussion I have ever seen on UA-cam. Thank you both. You are amazing and refreshingly intelligent. Lots of love to you both.
Such a wonderful conversation to have listened to. I admire Simon's clear, calm way of talking about nutrition, explaining the science, the consensus and the limitations from the research thus far, and his honest and humble attitude. And Rich for reflecting on the explanations and guiding this conversation so well. Thank you so much!
This answered so many questions I had that my doctor couldn’t answer having recently switched to plant based. Thank you! One of the most informative guest on plant based.
I only tuned into Simon’s work in the last few years. I’m super surprised that he’s not been plant based for very long at all. I had assumed otherwise until listening to this pod cast. Thank you Rich, great segment as usual.💜 Thank you Simon for being a strong voice. 👍
What an informative interview. Simon, you are incredibly knowledgeable and your ability to speak about such a wide range of topics and reference the research papers (and their authors) without using notes is quite impressive. You make me want to get my master's in nutrition😊. Rich Roll, I'm a fan, have been and will continue to be. Keep these shows coming.
In 2017 your videos helped me navigate my nutrition as I learned a plant based life and ensured I ate enough nutrients. Thank you for keeping all of us up to date on living well! ❤
All carbohydrates are the same. They all convert to sugar. There is no difference in quality. High Carb WFPB will yield the same results as a junk food vegan diet. Veganism is the biggest scam on human dietary health. You’re basically running your body on sugar. Plants don’t nourish, only animal foods do. Why vegans don’t get fat on a high sugar diet is because they’re lacking nutrition from animal foods to store any of it as fat. Animal-centric diet is the only true healthy diet.
It’s nice to hear some support for fermented foods from the research. That confirms my personal experience of having huge positive changes in my health after starting to ferment foods at home, including kombucha. My decades-long candida problem disappeared, I’ve gotten fewer colds, and I have better digestion. For me, it was as big a transformation as going plant-based. For those not starting from a place of disbiosis, maybe it wouldn’t be.
Thank you so much for this extremely interesting talk! I'm seriously impressed by Simon Hill's memory capacity. He gave names and dates and so much science stuff without having any notes (or Google) in front of him.
Thank you for educating me on “complete” proteins, something I was always mystified about especially as a vegetarian who trains with weights…the entire segment on proteins was very enlightening
Ya the crude proteins from plants have to be selected and paired so you don't have any deficiencies of vitamin. Humans have never had a fully vegan society until the invention of vitamin and supplements. Only vegetarians because they eat fish and eggs for those essential amino acids and fatty acids. Eat farm to table. Stay away from man made manufactured food like stuff. Take care.
I’ve got a 1 year old at home who we just switched her over to pea milk from whole milk due to constipation and wow, what a difference it made. Would love to learn more about plants effect on child development!
I wished I have known that 4 years ago…. My daughter had to follow a treatment to treat her constipation for years because of milk formula…. I just didn’t know then…
Simon Hills podcast “plant proof” has so many episodes interviewing moms and also specifically registered dietitians who focus on brining up your kids on a vegan/plant based diet! They’re amazing!!
Can never go wrong keeping them on fruit and veggies. We get sick when we consume animal products - namely high fat and high protein diets. Woman’s breast milk contains very little protein. It’s the glucose that fuels them and aids them in growing. Best “milk” around our house is bananas and water in a blender. Check out Medical Medium - next level stuff.
I’m just reading T. Colin Cambell’s new book, The Future of Nutrition, where he exhaustively argues against the focus on saturated fat as a “convenient alibi to avoid blaming the real cause, animal based protein…saturated fat is not particularly chemically reactive, a property required for causing disease or initiating evens that promote disease” Campbell, 2021, 135-136). Would love to see you interview Campbell, Rich.
Yeah, that's a comparison like, well we should focus more on not smoking than on not drinking alcohol. Why not decrease both animal products and saturated fats while increasing the amount of plants, freshness, diversity, veggies being organic, fiber, eating completely animal product free, etc. That would be the intelligent response. By the way I'm just eating a big dish of a colorful salad and fermented foods for breakfast! 🤗
Nature do things perfectly. We should eat everything we find in nature. In the proportion nature designed for us. We are designed to some animal products. Healthy and wild, nature fed animals. And a lot of diverse plants and vegetables. But we've been destroying the way nature express itself naturally. So now we're lost. We, humans, try to get the truth about everything because we can't accept/understand/acknowledge that we're alone with our own consciousness, and connected to everything at the same time. We are always more exposed to screens, adds, informations, entertainment, mirage.... Avoiding the profound connection with ourself and the rest of the living beings surrounding us. What's outside is just the reflection of what's inside of us, and vice versa.
I love Campbell, but sometimes he focuses too much on protein--perhaps because that is what he studied. Sat animal fat is a culprit in raising LDL and carrying a high load on toxic chemicals--among other things. Those effects aren't the protein.
I'm one of those people that a high-protein, low-carb diet (primarily consisting of lean animal protein) led directly to a heart attack at 49 years old. Admittedly there is no direct proof of that other than the impact of cholesterol and the inflammation that lead to the rupture of the cholesterol and subsequent blockage by blood clot that led to my heart attack. So, the choice to go the other route, a WFPB, higher carb diet was a natural choice to reduce/reverse the heart disease. It would be one thing if it was genetic, but there is no history of HD in my family and I've never even had remotely high cholesterol (the highest I ever tested was 169, which is on the higher side of "normal", but still well below 200). But, now I am on statin's for life (although it'll be interesting to see what my doctor does when my cholesterol drops below 100 soon...I was at 106 before the WFPB diet). I have taken a major scalpel to saturated fats and sodium in my diet and have been working on increasing fiber and trying to balance with a little more plant protein to make sure my carb ratio isn't so high. So far, it seem to be working and I feel great while starting to see some progress in weight loss. My biggest challenge right now is keeping my calories up high enough to not lose weight too quickly (or in an unhealthy way) without resorting to bad calories because I am also trying to add in regular exercise. Thanks for a great discussion!
How long were u on that diet for? 49 years? I bet not. What else were u consuming during and before? How were all your other lifestyle factors like stress, relationships, sun exposure etc. Many confounds to ur N of 1
It’s podcasts like this that helped me become plant based. This is what got me started listening to Rich Roll and I’ve been a super fan ever since. I wished he had more podcasts like this one.
Thank you fellows. Simon spoke to me. I did dirty keto where this idea that saturated fats did not matter ruled. My wife kept entering info that I should be more mindful of saturated fats. Kind of shifted to less animal fats and more nut fats, but still ate keto bombs. I felt pretty good after 18 months, but LDL went from 90 to 135, and then a blood test a year later up to 178. I'm a data guy and could not just ignore the mainstream science that saturated fats should be a big consideration. So I kind of shifted to exactly what Simon suggested. Plant-based low fat and very low saturated fat + fish and eggs whites. I'm also one that works on environmental issues, so the idea of low carbon footprint eating has always been a goal. So sitting here right now with a big productive garden ready to supply a lot of food and I can easily catch all my fish on demand and fill in with sardines and salmon. Pesca-flexaterian or whatever you call it. Keto was suppose to reduce my A1C, but it stayed right around 5.5-5.6% too close to prediabetes. This diet seems to be working better as I track blood glucose with a CGM. I'm getting daily average glucose levels below 100 or A1C close or below 5.0. And it is crazy how going from a high fat keto diet to a low fat diet mods your body. Literally setting fire to body fat and showing muscles and veins I've never seen before.
This was a very impressive interview. To be honest, I did not realize how educated the guest was. I had seen him on social media but just thought he was another vegan influencer. Lol. I learned so much!! 💛💛💛
Great interview, I love the Plant Proof podcast, and the book (Aussie) both help me make positive changes and support my journey. Rich I never miss an RR episode and you've helped me discover great people and take a more positive mindset. Much appreciated. P.S I watched the full 3 hours!!! 😍😎😳
@@richroll Hey sir really appreciate all you and your team do and the amazing hard work you guys put into this I’m actually curious do you give the list of questions to your guest beforehand so they can kind of work on their answers or is it straight off the hip to kinda get a more natural answer? I was just curious
I am not vegan, but I want to be. I have a lot of fears (or excuses?). I'm learning, gathering information, reading a lot, and making one vegan meal a day. I loved this interview and marched down to my Barnes and Noble and purchased my copy of Simon's book. I can't wait until it gets here. I found this man highly educated and I appreciated that.
I Was the same, I remember at the beginning I use to add protein powder (vegan) in a lot of my meals… That’s what you need to do, educate yourself and prepare yourself well for the transition… I was badly sick for 3 weeks because I couldn’t digest beans and went a little too full on…. But suddenly boom, no more discomfort…. 4 months after all my IBS symptoms went away… 6 months + remission from retinal vasculitis…. Changed my life
@@relaxo2739 Thank you for sharing. I may already be ahead, I grew up eating beans, rice, oatmeal so my body won't have to adjust to an introduction of these main important whole foods.
Change can be super scary to many people. So taking one step at a time, one day at a time makes it so much easier. Perhaps watch a few health related, environmental or animal rights documentaries to ‘fuel’ you with visuals. So many credible resources to help you make the change sooner then later.
once you grasp the concept entirely and learn how to eat the correct foods iit becomes easy. As your body rids itself of the fats plugging cells you will feel so great it is amazing
Next level knowledge - huge thank you to both of you 🙏🏼 I’ve completed recently the whole plant-based nutrition course at university in UK and these are indeed the most difficult issues raised, i.e. benefits of low carb diet, reducing polyunsaturated fats intake to a minimum, should we eat more plant proteins or is it harmful, not to mention some supplements and risk associated with overdoing those when in fact they may be unnecessary for some. I feel much better equipped now that I have watched your conversation.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill thank you! I love it! I'm a neuroscientist who one day just simply could no longer do animal studies no matter what, so switched to research using human samples. being vegan makes sense for me mentally, physically and spiritually
my grandma said at xmas dinner that just switching from milk to oat/almond milk drastically reduced her cholesterol level in a very short time. Dairy is scary! (look up the video by that title for a real mindblower)
This is an amazing podcast! Just finished a year of study to get my NASM Nutrition Coach Certification. This lines up with my learning. To learn and not to do is not to learn!
Fantastic interview. So informative as usual Simon. I can also vouch for Eden being one of the best plant based restaurants I have been to. Amazing food!
@19:22 If you do the same thing as everyone around you, how can you expect different results? This is such a prolific statement & so incredibly true. I look at my brother, sister, mother, father, nieces, nephew, cousins, aunts & uncles & see how different I eat. None of them care anything about eating vegetables or fruits & all of them have one kind of illness or the other. I am the only one who has no illness & takes no medications whatsoever. I just eat a clean plant based diet & they all tease me about it. Sickness & medication is normal for them.
I want build on what Simon says about “epidemiology” because I’ve noticed these statements among other podcasts as well and they are not completely accurate. As an epidemiologist and somebody studying towards a PhD in Evidence Based Healthcare, I wanted to clarify the following: Epidemiology is divided into 2 branches: (1) Descriptive Epidemiology which studies disease distribution within populations over time and (2) Analytical Epidemiology which studies factors that affect disease distribution. “Observational” studies are Descriptive Epidemiology and their function is to understand how disease is distributed. There is no intention to use descriptive epidemiology to draw conclusions about causal relationships. A cohort study (which is often times conflated as observational) is not descriptive. It is analytical epidemiology where a factor that may affect disease is being studied to draw a conclusion about if there is an association between that factor and the disease. Then an intervention study (like a Randomised Controlled Trial) is performed to confirm the association found through the cohort study. Far more important than an “Evidence hierarchy” is understanding the purpose of different study designs and what they are intended to accomplish. Additionally, the evidence hierarchy is largely no longer used. A better method for understanding the quality of research evidence is GRADE. Something else that is vital to understand is that claims about causality are underpinned by 3 prerequisites: (1) There must be an established biological mechanism that makes a causal claim plausible (I.e. we must know from in vitro studies that x is biologically linked with y); (2) The casual pathway between x and y must be independent (I.e. the pathway cannot be affected by a different factor); (3) There must be a body of evidence that confirms the association and causal relationship. The causal pathway must be independent because other factors may affect the relationship between x and y. If a factor affects the relationship it can be either a confounder or an effect modifier. A confounder is a factor that has its own causal pathway with the study variable, whereas, an effect modifier will act directly on the relationship between x and y to either enhance or inhibit the effect. So the in vitro studies and the cohort studies are pre-requisites to making causal claims. This is the fundamental reason why animal based diets have no grounds to make causal claims outside of “they are harmful to health” because we already know from the in vitro studies and the cohort studies what the biological effects are and how they are associated with disease distribution. RCT’s studying the causal pathways between animal based diets and disease are fraught with confounders and/or effect modifiers because of the complex relationship between plants based foods and good health outcomes. The RCT will not change the biology, they either confirm the biology or show that there is no difference between the study factor and random chance. They can never show that animal based foods are healthy or promote good health. Only that the negative effects that they have are modified or confounded by the positive effects of plant based foods.
I am immensely thankful for this broadcast !!!!! How can people give so much thought to the PALEO DIET if in that period the expectancy of human life was not further than 35 years of age ??!! Men ate to survive, not to perform - thrive - last.
There was a skeleton of a prehistoric man found in Brazil who was between 40 and 50 years of age. There could have been older ones. Just like 200 years ago, there were many simple things that could kill you for which there were no cures. I remember a skeleton that had a broken leg, another with a cracked skull, and another that had a spear head in his chest area. Then there were all the animals and poisonous plants. A mummified one had a small bit of meat and some grain in his stomach.
I grew up in Cork Ireland and when I was 19 I got a job in an abattoir. I was on the kill floor. One of my jobs was cutting off the cows heads, hanging them on a hook, dropping the tongue and washing the head with a power hose. Further down the line the heads were stripped of meat and went into the burger tray including lips. We processed 400-500 cattle per day 5 days a week. The cattle just kept coming in packed into trailers sometimes in 30c heat if we had a heat wave in the summer. This practice was probably illegal. We had vets inspecting the organs and the condemned organs had an x from a knife and went on a conveyor belt to pet food. The cattle the size of elephants were condemned as it would indicate the use of steroids. I have seen farmers crying after being caught as the farmers often hung around to see their cattle being processed. Of course the also hung around to see if they got away with steroid use. Being caught meant losing tens of thousands of pounds and probably legal issues. The cattle were kept in holding pens and then led up to the kill box being beaten with plastic pipes and electric shock prods terrorising them up the final concrete journey to the kill box. They were shot in the head with a bolt from a 'humane killer' but when we had contracts with Arab countries they sent their own killer. A bar in the kill box pulled the cows head up so the killer could slice the animals throat with a knife almost the size of a machete. The animals eyes were rolling around in it's head and the fear must have been horrendous. There was blood everywhere. This was normal for me. I was living in an agricultural community and it was just a job for me. I remember it made me very cold-hearted and angry. In hindsight I think it psychologically damaged me. I have read it can cause PTSD and the talk in the job was that people that work in slaughter houses are never called for jury service as we end up lacking empathy. This is an animal holocaust. The nicely packed beautiful piece of meat you see in a supermarket has had a terrible journey before it ends up on your plate. The industrial slaughter of billions of animals worldwide in terrible conditions makes me question the type of species we are. I am ashamed to be a human. We are a terrible species. We have to change or there will be nothing for our grandchildren.
@@curtmcgirt4207 It was normal at the time because I was young and in an agricultural community. In hindsight it is horrendous I think it was Paul McCartney said “if slaughterhouses had glass walls we would never eat meat again” We have also destroyed the rivers and oceans 90% of species of fish almost extinct We are a disgusting species 😕
One of my favourite Australians.... the other being Lucy Bartholomew :-) Your book is full of absolute GOLD Simon; its been available in NZ for a wee while, so thank YOU for writing it.
Great show! It is so sickening and sad that food scientists have made these processed food to not only to be convenient but also addicting. I know I am still making changes to erradicate these kinds of foods from my diet. PMA!
Congrats on 4 yrs! I discovered your channel early in the pandemic. Just made your queso yesterday for first time. 🤤💓 this is the meal plan service I’ve been waiting for! 🎉💃can’t wait for the release.
I am awestruck!! This guy is a rockstar, going on and on siting study after study. I’m gonna have to listen to it again to really get it. Thank you so much to you both! Can’t wait to get the book! 😎😊
Plant based for fifteen years, five kids all raised plant based since birth. I have had so much criticism for that! They are THRIVING. I have found recent turns and twists in the nutrition discussion sphere so confusing - and I am a geek - a real lay geek intent on knowing the stuff….. not easily fooled. I am so glad I found this. Helped me very much to ground right back in to the backbone of what I chose fifteen years ago. For the record, I am very healthy and the last time I had my ldl checked two years ago, it was right on 60. I don’t eat perfect and neither do my kids, but I know the principles and hold them in my brain. I am a big fan of soil regeneration and looking after the careful balance of all life - I am more interested in that conversation than being distracted by “carbon” - deforestation and ocean acidification are problems that we need to address - we don’t need to be distracted with trading carbon around, but knuckling down to what matters. Thank you, gentlemen, I enjoyed showing my seven year old son how there are other men like his Dad - who are “big and strong” on a plant based diet. Peace and gratitude.
Great yak! Thanks for organizing the show so well and time stamping key notes. I appreciate you doing this so much! Allows me to simply take a screen shot and the info I want to look into deeper is seen easily on the screen 🤘
the *Mediterranean* diet of the 1950s is not the same as the Mediterranean diet today. Back in those days, olive oil was used sparingly, nowhere near like it is today.
It is a great to see older people rocking it! Hopefully you could have more elderly people that are doing great things in future episodes. Love you Rich!
I am 66 and have familial hypercholesterolemia and have been a lacto-vegetarian for well over 40 years and for years I have eaten a mostly plant based diet (vegan leaning except for very rare holiday cheese nibbling). I also have genetically high LP(a). My LDL cholesterol keeps climbing (223) but my heart scans always show ZERO plaque. My cardiologist says that primarily my diet but also my regular moderate exercise probably have saved my life. He just now decided I should try a low dose statin, but that is only preventive since my arteries are absolutely clear. This plant based diet really matters!
Guess your living proof that Hi LDL does not cause heart disease. Simon needs to get off his soap box about Sat fat to Hi LDL to CVD as it is clearly wrong and discredits all his otherwise good advice.
I went vegan in 2015 and to be honest I rarely got sick ever since. I used to be ill every other month before that 😅 I do blood analysis every six months and the results show that I’m healthier than ever. I started working out and I’ve been able to build muscles. People can’t even believe I’m on a plant-based diet. I can go on and on about how it’s been and how I’ve been feeling in the past 8-9 years but I know I’m never going back.
Lots of new info , same old result ! No matter how much science you put out there , you are just not designed to eat like that , it’s just a matter of time for most folks to crumble.
@@birdybirdy7737 plant based ! I have seen enough peoples health being destroyed by it , one after another coming back to eating meat because their health crumbled
@@michalgniewek1147 you talk rubbish, every animal you eat gets nutrition from the earth plants/grass even carnivore animals eat others that get nutrients from plants, if a person eats plants they will adapt.
I have been on low carbo since January 1.On January 1 I was 242.It’s now February 4 and I am 220 with lots of energy.I am eating lots of arugula,fish,seeds,green drinks,red bell peppers,hummus,nuts,fermentation foods,expresso,peanut butter and that’s about it.Oh and various anti-worm stuff.
I did that for years.... I now have a big fat kidney stone, and other issues. Be careful with the greens, nuts, and other high oxalate foods. I now eat low carb meat based and dropped 50lbs. Still working on the kidney stone and other endocrine issues.
Why? Rich Roll is an Ex-Layer a very good Interviewer. He is not a scientist, nutritionist or doctor. (They actually spoke together in a „the Minimalist“ Podcast, which was not so good. Paul Saladino should speak with dr. Greger or Simon Hill.
We don't need no education We don't need no thought control No dark sarcasm in the classroom Teachers, leave them kids alone Hey, teachers, leave those kids alone All in all it's just another brick in the wall All in all you're just another brick in the wall
@@yeahbuddy4712 I have a picture (still shot from the video) in my office-people on conveyor belt to become ground meat-the analogy for our food system.
love this interview, I just got Simon's book and I love his take on protein. I have been WFPB for 4 years and it is true that sometimes we don't focus enough on protein in the vegan community. thank you!
Thank you Rich and Simon for such a ‘rich’ conversation. I especially enjoyed the last ten minutes about regenerative farming, and marginal land. I am doing exactly this through my Non Profit ‘Grow Bamboo Initiative’ - we plant 🌱 bamboo in Nepal, on marginal land - not only marginal but also land slide prone and prone to flooding. As the intricate bamboo rhizomes are the perfect soil barrier. The bamboo is planted by rural villages/farmers on communal land, which they can then harvest and use the bamboo for so many purposes, as to create an additional income for them. At the same time bamboo releases 35% more oxygen than trees so is a very quick to absorb carbon. Bamboo is a superstar and a miracle that still is such an underdog.
Anything that removes processed junk is good for humanity, whether it’s vegetarianism, veganism, carnivore, Paleo, Mediterranean, etc. We all should explore and do what works for us physically and emotionally, and not be divisive.
Great conversation - and truly interesting that you told about the 10 week research in two Group ….1) increasing fiber and2 ) increasing fermented food - and the differences that was found. In decreasing inflammation and increasing immunity - in Classica Chinese medicine this is Well known and if you are ill you beginning with very simplified whole plants and then you add more and more diversity - and choose a raw nonpasturized version ( or make your own) 😊🎶🍀🎵🐸
Thanks for watching! To dig deeper, Simon provided a comprehensive list of studies and resources to support his statements, which you can find on the episode of page of my website under the tab 'References' (near the bottom of the page) here: bit.ly/richroll638
Thank you for pinning that comment. Very important. You’ll surely get some haters or at least critics in the comment section, so it’s good they just can read the studies mentioned themselves.
Fantastic! Thank you 🙏
Get Terry Wahls on! her story is amazing
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Any thoughts on Plant protien powders, whether they are generally good for the microbiome
As a 68 year old woman with a 60 year history of being 20 to 150 pounds over weight in any past time period I can report that by following a WFPB diet since July 2020 I have dropped 100 pounds. My serum cholesterol has dropped from 240 to 170. I am swimming a mile most days and walk and jog 3-5 miles on other days. I feel so good everyday. I am just a regular person and not part of a scientific study. I look for recipes on UA-cam and most days start with a big salad and lentil/quinoa/buckwheat flat bread smeared with my hummus, Next meal is hearty vegetables soup with my flat bread and more salsa/hummus. Final meal is grains fruit nuts and soy milk. My meals are tasty and varied. I am so glad I discovered WFPB diet. Life transformational.
Keep up the good work! That's an amazing accomplishment
Great sharing Rita! Very practical advice 👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
way to go , you are amazing
@Rita Sewell Thank you for sharing, Rita. I'm 63 and have been over 200# since 1984, over 300# since 2013. I've been inconsistently HCLF WFPB since 2016, addicted to fast food and sugar. I thought it was too late to make a permanent change.. You just gave me the hope to get back on the wagon. From my heart to yours, gratitude.
That is awesome!!! Id cut out the soymilk and trade it for coconut or oat though 🙏 soy not good for us
My dad had a heart attack when I was 16 and just died last year before I turned 30. I recently asked my doctor if I could do some preventive checkups for cardiovascular diseases -I was rejected since I do not have any symptoms (insurance only kicks in once you are sick). Then I read your book Running Ultra and I am eating plant-based since 1 month. I started taking responsibility for my own health (and nutrition). I hope it will prevail. Thanks for sharing your story!
You got this. Heart disease is the #1 killer and plant based diet is the one diet scientifically shownn to not just prevent, but reverse it. Don't lose that motivation either. HEalth is wealth. the biggest lesson of the pandemic. without health, you have nothing.
Plants cause heart disease and inflammation. You want to go on an animal-centric diet if you want to be ultra healthy. Vegan diet is a fast, so you’re starving the body with zero nutrition. The reciprocal of Vegan isn’t necessarily carnivore, but rather all animal foods. Animal foods is what we were designed to eat. Our digestive systems are closest to wolves. We’re not designed to eat plants. We can’t digest plants, period.
Dylan Schwarz bullshit, plant based diet is a superficial diet of fasting starvation. When the body goes into autophagy on a plant based diet that is how the heart disease reverses, but we’re talking 6 weeks max or 42 days. After that the body begins to really attack itself on a plant.based diet. Animal centric diet full of dietary cholesterol is the cure for inflammation and heart disease. It’s the plants and seed oils in an omnivore diet that are the bad bits that are preventing health from animal foods.
@@camwhitman5425 "Plants cause heart disease and inflammation." As a university professor who researches and teaches about nutrition and nutrition myths at the university level, I get incredibly frustrated when people post blatant misinformation like that.
JUNK FOOD vegan diets are unhealthy, but well-planned diets dominated by WHOLE plant foods (whether vegan, vegetarian, or very low in animal foods) are the healthiest way of eating. Plant foods have on average eight times the antioxidant power of animal foods, so diets full of whole plant foods are the best diets for REDUCING inflammation and oxidative stress. Research proves this.
As for heart disease, the ONLY diets shown in multiple multi-year clinical trials to stop even serious heart disease in its tracks and achieve some reversal are very low fat whole food vegan diets. Meanwhile, experimental studies prove that eating lots of saturated animal fat is causal in heart disease.
"Vegan diet is a fast, so you’re starving the body with zero nutrition." Uh, spinach has higher nutrient density than beef liver does, and kale has higher nutrient density than a sirloin steak. Research studies find vegans to have a similar number of micronutrient deficiencies to omnivores, or to have FEWER micronutrient deficiencies. Meanwhile, for every essential amino acid, there are multiple plant foods with DIAAS scores over 100 and at least one with a DIAAS score over 110.
"Our digestive systems are closest to wolves." Uh, except for the fact that 1) they have lots of long sharp canines to help them rip flesh and we only have a few wimpy ones, 2) their jaws only go up and down, whereas our can go sideways to grind/chew foods, 3) we evolved digestive enzymes to help us digest starches more efficiently, 4) Their stomach acid is much lower than ours, 5) their colon is straight, short, and smooth whereas ours is long, curved, and sacculated, and other differences.
"We can’t digest plants, period." Humans have been eating LOTS of plant foods in most places and for most of our history, starting with being nearly vegan when we came down from the trees, and continuing through Paleolithic people who were eating 105 g of plant fiber a day (six times what the average American eats), the early humans 780,000 years ago in Israel who were found to be eating 55 different plant foods, the nearly-vegetarian humans in Spain tens of thousands of years ago, and all the various tribes who get 70+% of their calories from whole plant foods.
Most human evolution and history occurred in Africa, a warm continent with abundant fruits, veggies, grains, legumes, and nuts.
Finally, ALL of the best overall long-term health outcomes have come from people eating diets in which most calories and nutrients came from whole plant foods. ALL of them.
I'm not sure where you are getting your information on nutrition, but boy are they misleading people!!!
Take care.
@@camwhitman5425 "Animal centric diet full of dietary cholesterol is the cure for inflammation and heart disease." All other things being equal, he more cholesterol you eat, the more oxidized cholesterol you have in your body. The physiologically-normal LDL level for the human mammal is 34-70, and above that, you get more heart disease.
Oils ARE unhealthy, but so is eating lots of saturated animal fat. BOTH are unhealthy, as are added sugar and lots of processed carbs AND too much animal fat and protein. You have to dodge all the obstacles.
"When the body goes into autophagy on a plant based diet that is how the heart disease reverses, but we’re talking 6 weeks max or 42 days. " No, very low-fat diets dominated by whole plant foods prevent heart disease across a lifetime. Ask the Tsimane tribe, healthiest arteries on the planet, and they get 70% of their calories from carbs, meaning 80-85% of their calories are from plant foods.
After 15 years working in animal agriculture as a federal inspector doing investigations seeing the things that I did I feel duped. I was lied to about our food system. I thought much like most that we had to eat animals to live. Now 8 years without!!
The abuse torture and things I can’t even say are now fuel for me to help others make the connection that we are all here together. That 5 minute meal you had last Tuesday that you’ll never remember was their entire life, their entire existence. It ain’t right.
I’m sure you are bound by NDA’s… if we treated humans like we treat our animal food sources, whole organizations would be jailed for crimes against humanity. It truely is crimes against life. Fully unsustainable… and we have developed a culture that is completely removed from the traditional spiritual connection with their food and a practice of harmony and gratefulness with our food. No one I know gives a tip about their food source, be them vegan or carnivore, both of which have sustainable and unsustainable practices…
Thank You for speaking up !!
Thank You for making the connection !!
Long and Healthy life to You, my friend.
Thanks for putting that so succinctly and impactfully. I sent it to my family. I hope it can inspire them to go veg.
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@@csleung444 that’s wonderful! I have a YT channel as well. I share my experiences as often as I can via interviews, podcasts and docs! Hopefully, they’ll open up that window of compassion 🌱
Simon, it is astounding how you commit to memory and articulate such great knowledge, with no notes and no iPad. Must be the veggies, nuts & seeds. Thank you!
Lol. It’s his livelihood to promulgate false dietary propaganda and so it’s not difficult to remember. He does stutter a little bit which is the vegan brain fog rearing it’s ugly head.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill the negative comments on here about what you said with regards to lipids is interesting. Apparently you've provided the evidence we need animals to eat 😏
@@camwhitman5425 Why are you even on this channel if anything having to do with a plant base diet is apparently "propaganda"?
@@camwhitman5425 I'm with ya to a point. I think plants or animals products is 100% healthier then anything food like item produced in a factory by recombination of base elements then fortified with vitamins. If it was real food you wouldn't need to add vitamins to it. So as a ballpark time I feel anything invented for consumption since the 1700s should not be considered food. They are a few things invented prior to that year that was considered food at the time, but I should hope no longer is being eaten. Like bread filled with chalk to make it whiter.
Eat real food from farms not factories. The world's metabolic health is at stake.
@@camwhitman5425 I would say trolling vegan channels is a clear sign of brain fog, as demonstrated by you.
I totally agree with the other comments about the excellent content of this interview. I will add only this: I really appreciated the low-key, thoughtful tone and pace of the conversation. It gave my brain the space to slow down and actually process the information I was taking in. Such a relief from all the frenzy and hype. Thank you so much for believing in the intelligence of your audience.
I fully agree! One of the best conversations / podcasts I've listened to in a while.
I went plant based for 3 months and it drastically changed my life. I actually got more protein. Whenever I ate I could still be energized and not tired. Sleep was way better. I didn’t have digestion issues. Also lost weight without trying. It’s definitely something to stay on.
Improved absorption in the cells!
I've been 2 years vegan (whole foods) eating 2x the fiber RDI and my relationship with food is better than ever. I have plenty of energy and I've learned a bunch of new recipes and cuisines. And I've been able to help others to eat more plants and get their nutrition in order.
TY to Rich Roll & Simon & the team for making this info known in a quality & digestible format.
Don't forget to get your essential amino acids and all your B vitamins. Lot of ex vegans complain about not getting enough from just plants without good supplements.
Give it time. You’ll start seeing irreversible damage to your body soon.
Well done!
@@poerava Your crease is pulsating.
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Your iron levels are low bud.
Changing my life for the better, one Podcast at a time. Thank you, Rich.
I started with vegetarianism about 35years ago, not for the health benefits, but for my compassion and love for Animals. But recently, started exclusively eating plant based, no eggs, no dairy, no nothing that comes from exploited Animals.My “meat” is tempeh, broccoli, chicken peas, lentils, beans, and other great plant sources of protein.
sadly the powerful interests have been pushing the animal narrative for over 100 years
At The Age Of 32 I was 50% blocked in my arteries when i ate lots of meat and cheese and had to have a single graph bypass,Wake up people plants are friends! i've been plant based for 2 years now and lost 60 lbs and dont have anymore chest pain!
How do people know you are legit.
guess you will just have to take my word for it,but if you look at all the stories of people going plant based they all have a story of restoring health!
@@ChuckBoomBuck have you had any follow ups about your arteries and your health has it helped you become more active and what is your staple do you eat legumes, starches etc
Yeah meat and cheese and what else is the key, and for how long, and after what?
I love Simon and his podcast. He’s the chill version of Dr Greger( I love both). Thanks, Rich for letting Simon shine.
Love the reference ‘he’s the chill version of Dr Greger 🤣
Dr Greger looks unhealthy for his age, totally sarcopenic. Enjoy buying there dogmas.
@@phatpoint you are correct, Dr Gregor doesn't look great but Simon and rich look undeniably healthy
He's the wiser and better version of Greger... Greger unfortunately makes false claims ("plant based diet is the ONLY diet proven to REVERSE the progression of heart disease"), which is totally unnecessary if you want to promote a plant based diet. I only contributes to polarising the debate and losing your credibility.
I struggle to listen to Dr Gregor.
This is probably my favorite single podcast of all time, so many questions answered and beliefs confirmed. I hung on every word. Thank you.
Two years later I am glued to the screen, listening with open mouth. Rich, this one and the next one talk with Simon (I watched the second conversation first 😀), are of enormous value to me. Thank you.
I absolutely love how you address the "I did my research" declaration.
But even after this interview/podcast people cheers to us with a big glass of Dunning-Kruger...
Yes.....so sick of the “research” peeps watching UA-cam vids to endorse their narrow thoughts!
I could listen to Simon all day long. Rich has fast become my favorite podcast. I’m a newby making my transition back to plant based and love the information I’m getting from your channel…..God Bless !!!!
This was definitely one of the best interviews on Rich’s podcast! I really liked how the information was organized.
That intro was on fire! He hit the nail on the head here, the qualities he listed in Simon are exactly what you want to look for when seeking out information. People who are calm, collected, evidence based, have an education targeted specifically at nutrition. Very excited to listen to this one.
Mr. Hill raises a very good point that we should not just look at a single study to determine what is really going on with diet and health. We need to look at the totality of research on a particular question. That is my pet peeve about the news media--the reporter typically reports on just one study and claims that it alone shows what is going on! Reporters so often do not put an individual study in context. Hats off to Simon for bringing good critical thinking to the arena of diet and health! Thanks to Rich Roll for bringing Mr. Hill's thoughtful and strong analysis to the public!
This podcast is one of, if not, the best single source of nutrition information I have come across. Purchasing Simon’s book in a couple of days to add to my wellspring of data.
As a Personal Trainer, who is also entering the physical therapy world in a couple of years, I fight daily to inform my clients on the amazing benefits of adopting a whole foods, plant centered diet. It’s my life’s mission 🦾 Thank you for this great segment 🙌
Anybody noticed that since going plant based you actually want to exercise more? It’s not just performance and recovery on the body but it’s motivating me to get up and do.
Yes.
Same!
I get high while i do reaction videos on my UA-cam channel 😎😎!
That was definitely my experience
You feel lighter and well.
Love you, Rich, and all the work you do!
Thank you so much for contributing to health of our Planet!!!!! Excellent info, Simon! Thank you for sharing all the research! We are blessed having you, guys, and others like you on Earth!!! 🙏🙏👍👍🌱🌱🌱🌱🤗♥️🌱🌱
26 years with no meat and 16 years being vegan and will remain vegan for life.
Blessings!!!
once again, rich roll has hirt the jackpot with this podcast and this interview.....thanks for continuing the talk on impact of plants in our world....
Thank you - I hope this provides value for you
Brilliant conversation. Didn't expect anything less. Simon's insights are always helpful. He's an amazing communicator just like RR. Thanks for posting all the references!
THANK YOU!!! For talking about FH!!
I have FH and was not formally diagnosed until my 40’s, I have massive atherosclerosis (CAC score of 798) even through I had a highly plant based diet since my 20’s. Never overweight and always active and athletic. Moderate junky food.
I’m now 59, I eat a predominately plant based healthy pescatarian diet. (Now with meds and diet my LDL that was near 400 is holding in the 60’s)
My son was diagnosed at 16 (he’s 18 now) an athlete and a honor student off to college.
He’s on statins and he sees the anti statin rhetoric. I showed him this discussion, it helped me so much. I am an advocate for the FH society, but I’m his mom, so he doesn’t listen 😉
It’s SO appreciated to see our condition addressed.
As a mom, and an FH patient
Thank you again
U6
Thank you Rich for letting us watch/hear a truly meaningful discussion with Simon Hill. As a Cal Poly educated Biologist, I found the information presented profound!
Excellent podcast. It actually pushed me over the edge of doubt, and I'm now proud to say I am vegan.
Don't forget your essential amino acids and fatty acids. There are no essential carbohydrates, so be sure to supplement properly esp vitamin B's. Take care. It's great to get away from man made food and get back the real farm raised food.
@@artemishunter8993 " There are no essential carbohydrates" That's technically true, but the best overall long-term health outcomes have consistently come from diets in which most calories come from whole food carbs.
@@HealingLifeKwikly ok... good luck with diabetes, alzheimer, dementia, depression, ED, PCOS, heart disease, cancer, blindness, gum disease, skin tags, candia, gall stones, kidney stones, gout, incontinence, infections. Take care.
I like watching
Dr Paul Mason, Ben Bikman PhD, Dr Georgia Ede, Prof Tim Noakes, Dr Gary Fettke, Dave Feldman, Ivor Cummins, Gary Taubes, Nina Teicholz, Amber O'Hearn, Peter Ballersted, Dr Sarah Hallberg, Dr Jason Fung
@@artemishunter8993 Thanks for your reply. As a university researcher and professor, part of what I teach and research nutrition--and nutrition myths. In that role, I've spent quite a bit of time studying how people get confused by half-truths, misleading labels for diets, and the fatal restriction of range problems that plague so much nutrition research.
Thus, I have posted replies on videos/websites by Mason, Bikman, Ede, Noakes, Fettke, Feldman, Cummins, Taubes, Teicholz, Hallberg, Fung, and I believe O'Hearn... explaining how their videos or writings are misleading people.
The first giant problem that cuts across the claims of virtually all low-carb gurus is that most research on "carbs" is actually on processed carbs, but the evidence is overwhelming that eating truly WHOLE food carbs is SUPER healthy whereas we also know that eating lots of processed carbs is unhealthy. How this results in vast misinformation in the writings and videos of Fung, Taubes, Teicholz, and the others is that they REPEATEDLY cite a study that was actually on unhealthy processed carbs and added sugars but then turn around in the next sentence and act as if this indicts all carbs. Scientifically, this is misleading nonsense, but unfortunately, they do it over and over again and such misuse of evidence is usually pivotal to their whole case. I've analyzed hundreds of such misstatements on low-carb sites and videos.
Significantly, your own comments reflect exactly this kind of deep confusion about diet: BOTH diets high in animal foods/fat cause more of the health problems you cited AND diets high in processed carbs/added sugars promote more of those diseases. However, you can REVERSE diabetes, heart disease, etc. on whole food diets very high in whole food carbs, and in fact, the best overall long-term health outcomes for those conditions (including dementia) have been achieved on diets that are very high in whole plant food carbs. Dementia is ramping up rapidly in Asia, and the food component most strongly linked to more dementia is higher consumption of animal fat. Sugary foods do promote gout, but a key trigger is saturated animal fat and animal foods high in purines. The diseases you listed (and numerous others) are rare to nonexistent in people eating a very low fat whole food plant-based diet.
The second giant problem that cuts across all those folks and most nutrition research (although I'm not sure I've ever analyzed Ballersted's works/claims) is that diets and biomarker status are routinely labeled in misleading ways. Lift the hood on Cummins' videos claiming folks with "normal" or "low" LDL levels have just as many CVD events, and you will find that in some studies, what was called "normal" or "low" LDL was actually under 100, under 130, or even under 140. Physiologically-normal LDL is actually ~35-70, so that is happening in those videos (and the field) is that you are just comparing some people with high LDL (and who often used to even have higher LDL) with other people who also had high LDL. Similarly, all the "low-fat" diets that supposedly didn't work in past research, those studies are overwhelmingly 25-30% calories from fat, and all folks usually did is cut a little fat and replace it with some processed carbs and added sugars. Thus, you get the misleading conclusion of "no harm" for eating more saturated fat because fat was actually being compared to eating processed carbs-which we know are unhealthy. So it's not that more saturated fat didn't cause preventable harm-it's that it caused as much harm as processed carbs and added sugars. The better studies are clearly showing higher animal fat consumption cause more disease if you compare it to eating whole plant foods/carbs instead. Similarly, Mason's video on supposedly "high-fiber" diets actually compares different low-fiber diets: Truly high fiber diets are 70 grams of fiber or more.
The third giant problem is that all those authors leave readers/viewers in the dark of a mountain of studies showing that very low fat whole food plant based diets have achieved the best results for obesity, diabetes, heart disease, cancer, and much more. Some of them may truly be ignorant of this research, but my hunch is that some of them (e.g., Taubes) have found a way to make a buck telling people who don’t know the science well what they want to hear.
Take care.
@@artemishunter8993 For example, here's what I posted on Hallberg's TED talk video:
Comment on Sarah Hallberg diabetes TED talk video
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As someone who studies and teaches nutrition, she simply doesn’t know the big picture of nutrition and knows just enough to be dangerous to people’s long-term health. It is troubling that a practitioner in this field does not know that you can control blood glucose eating diets that are VERY high in whole food carbs and that the best overall long-term health outcomes have been achieved on diets dominated by whole food carbs. Yes you can also lose weight and improve weight on very low-carb and high-fat diets (which she recommends), but those create lots of other health risks, from heart disease to neurological diseases and cancers.
At 4:04 she shows a chart purporting to show the different blood glucose spikes resulting from eating carbs, fats, and protein, but in reality, the amount of spike you get depend on what else you are eating and how much fat you had in your blood and muscles when you ate. Most Americans eat a LOT of fat and have a LOT of fat in their muscles, and that excess fat in their muscles (intramyocellular lipids) causes insulin resistance. But experimental research varying fat and carb intake from very high fat and very low carbs to very high carbs and very low fat found the lowest blood glucose levels came from very high carbs and very low fat (around a 10-1 ratio).
Then she says "So, when we eat carbohydrates, our insulin and blood glucose levels are going to spike up fast." Not quite: Depends on the TYPES of carbs you eat and what you eat with them. Eating a very low fat diet with INTACT grains will cause a slow release of and rise in and glucose levels. (Notice that this is exactly the kind of conflation of processed carbs with whole food carbs that is endemic in the low-carb world).
Notice she is talking about eating those macronutrients in isolation, but that's not how real diets work, and as I noted before, eating more fat INCREASES the blood glucose spike you get from eating carbs. Then she talks about cravings after eating a big meal of Chinese food, and blames it on the rice: Actually, American-style Chinese meals are usually very high in fat and protein too, but are often doused with lots of MSG-which is what triggers those cravings. Then she says if you eat carbs, your glucose goes up, your insulin goes up, and you have hunger and fat storage. Again, she is talking about PROCESSED carbs in the context of eating too much fat-which impairs your body’s ability to process large quantities of carbs as it evolved to do. The largest slim and diabetes-free populations (before they adopted the western diet) ate diets dominated by WHOLE FOOD carbs (wheat, rice, potatoes). Furthermore, the all-you-can-eat diet that achieved the best weight loss at 1 year was a plant-based diet that is very high in carbs. Similarly, researchers have rapidly reversed diabetes on diets with 70+% of calories from carbs-but eat WHOLE FOOD carbs.
No, 40-65 grams of carbs per meal is not “a lot of carbs.” Lots of slim and diabetes-free populations ate lots more carbs than that-but they ate WHOLE FOOD carbs. In a study I cite below, blood glucose levels were brought under control in three weeks as people got off their meds eating a diet with 337 grams of carbs a day (her narrow paradigm won’t understand how that is possible). It sounds like she mostly has experience with people eating various unhealthy diets, and doesn’t understand there are super-healthy high-carb diets that reverse diabetes.
6:02 Then she says that “at its root, diabetes is a state of carbohydrate toxicity.” No, at its root, diabetes is when the body’s normal ability to process large quantities of carbs has been impaired (mostly by fat consumption, but also by too many calories and sedentary lifestyles). Eating lots of saturated fat steadily impairs the functioning of the insulin producing beta cells in the pancreas, while consumption of saturated fat and especially animal fat increases fat inside muscle cells (vegans have been found to have about one third less than omnivores).
6:07 Yes, we can’t get the glucose into the cells because they are too fatty-diabetes is caused by lipotoxicity
6:20 Then she asks about “why oh why” we keep asking people to eat carbs. Probably because the best diets for reversing heart disease and for overall long-term health outcomes are diets dominated by whole food carbs. Meanwhile, studies have shown low-carb diets to have significantly higher rates of all-cause mortality (but it sounds like all that lies beyond her expertise).
I am seven minutes in and she still hasn’t distinguished between WHOLE FOOD carbs, like intact grains-which the body handles well-versus the junky processed foods that is the context for most of the carb intake she sees. So she is making blanket statements about the effects of carbs that are dead wrong with respect to whole food carbs.
7:30 Yes, Type 2 diabetes CAN reversed, and multiple studies have shown it can be reversed on whole food plant-based diets that are very in whole food carbs. For example, in a randomized controlled trial, a macrobiotic diet with 73% calories from WHOLE FOOD carbs dropped diabetics’ blood glucose levels from 129 to 95 and LDL cholesterol from 102 to 62-in just 3 weeks!
Soare A, Khazrai YM, Del Toro R, et al. The effect of the macrobiotic Ma-Pi 2 diet vs. the recommended diet in the management of type 2 diabetes: the randomized controlled MADIAB trial. Nutr Metab (Lond). 2014;11:39.
7:55 No, we don’t “need” carbs, but we don’t need arms or eyes either, and the best long-term health outcomes have been achieved on higher-carb diets.
Yes, you can get people to lose weight on low-carb, high-fat diets, but they have poorer long-term outcomes, and especially if you are eating animal fat, you are dramatically increasing patients’ exposure to industrial and agricultural toxins-which naturally concentrate at high levels in animal fats.
12:55 Finally gets to whole grains, but doesn’t seem to know research showing you can reverse diabetes eating LOTS of whole intact grains. She just doesn’t seem very well-read on the topic, and isn’t helping the audience distinguish between eating “whole grain pasta” and eating acting whole grains of farro, barley, long-grain rice, etc.
13:50 Says cutting carbs is going to be good for you, even if it is not necessary. Doesn’t she know low-carb diets are linked to higher all-cause mortality? Doesn’t she know higher consumption of WHOLE grains is linked to greater longevity? Apparently not.
14:40 Now she’s talking about the research on low-carb diets, but doesn’t tell you these studies are overwhelmingly one year or shorter. Of course you can improve biomarkers in the short run if you can get people to lose weight-even if the diet is unhealthy in the long run. When researchers have followed people who have eaten this way for many years and decades, low-carb diets increase mortality. And what’s the best diet for stopping and reversing our #1 killer-heart disease, a whole food plant-based diet with only about 10% calories from fat.
16:50 Asks why low-carb isn’t the norm: She doesn’t know that is because the evidence indicates low-carb is less healthy overall in the long run. Sad to see such a smart caring person who got turned around because she just doesn’t have a deep big-picture understanding of the research on overall long-term health.
16:58 critiquing the low-fat direction over recent decades, but doesn’t know the research well-enough to know that the “low-fat” diets that didn’t work in the studies she is referring to (Siri-Tarino et al.; Chowdhury, et al.) were really medium HIGH-fat diets with 25-30% calories from fat (the diets yielding the best results are more like 8-15% calories from fat). "
Side note: So this is another classic example of how people in the low-carb community routinely fool themselves and others about carbs, diet, and health.
Take care.
This is a badass podcast! Thank you Rich for inviting Simon on your podcast. I would never know Simon otherwise. Today is the day I go 100% vegan. I had been phasing in my vegan journey the last 6 months. How timely can this be that I learn about Simon! Buying his book too! Thank you.
Perfect Alan! Simon has that effect on people!
You will be so glad you did🌱💚
#sayNOtotheNWOdiet 👎
You may want to look into Dr Robert Lustig work. Esp Sugar: The Bitter Truth video. And Nina Teicholz book The Big Fat Surprise.
@@artemishunter8993 like Robert Lustig, have watched his YT vid about sugar and processed foods. Robert Lustig is not anti vegan, he is anti processed/franken foods. Robert Lustig has also been a guest on Chef AJ, a vegan whole food plant based advocate. Nina Teicholz is funded by the beef industry.
finally some logic around that issue. I'm vegan since 2013 and my son is vegan from birth, same year, this conversation made me feel so much better about our family choice . thank you !!
Made you feel better? So you were having doubts based on some issue perhaps. Vegan is a non-nutritional diet. It’s a fast. That’s not healthy beyond 6 weeks.
@@camwhitman5425 wrong. Listen to the video instead of just trolling
@@seitanbeatsyourmeat666 yeah I listened to it and it is full of lies and misinformation.
@@camwhitman5425 you listened with the blinders on 🤡
@@paultishler6013 nope. I listen with an open mind, yet critical thinking. You should try it some time.
Fantastic interview! Both these gentleman are rockstars in my book! I’ve been WFPB for four years now🌱💪 and it was one of the best decions of my life!
Watched the podcast with Dr. B and the one with Nimai Delgado, both of which were excellent. The one with Simon Hill is extraordinary. His recall is astounding and extremely informative. LOVE the science across all the topics. Thank you Rich Roll!!!
A brilliant chat from two of my favourite plant powered powerhouses. Well done team
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I was scheduled for surgery to replace the cataract damaged lenses in both eyes. With my wife, I changed to eating a plant based diet, recommended by my DO. After a month, the osteo arthritis pain I suffered in my toes, plantar, heels, ankles, knees, elbows, wrists and fingers (each confirmed by xray images) disappeared. Almost a year after going plant based diet, my cataracts cleared in both eyes. I phoned the optometrist and requested a new vision test before my scheduled cataract surgery. She agreed. After the new exam, she cancelled the cataract surgery for my eyes! - It was a big step to give up all meat, dairy, processed foods, oils, etc. But, the rewards to me far exceed the compromises. (Age 74!)
The most intelligent, thoughtful, inspiring and informative discussion I have ever seen on UA-cam. Thank you both. You are amazing and refreshingly intelligent. Lots of love to you both.
Such a wonderful conversation to have listened to. I admire Simon's clear, calm way of talking about nutrition, explaining the science, the consensus and the limitations from the research thus far, and his honest and humble attitude. And Rich for reflecting on the explanations and guiding this conversation so well. Thank you so much!
This answered so many questions I had that my doctor couldn’t answer having recently switched to plant based. Thank you! One of the most informative guest on plant based.
Sure you have loaded free app Daily Dozen by Dr Michael Greger already?
I only tuned into Simon’s work in the last few years. I’m super surprised that he’s not been plant based for very long at all.
I had assumed otherwise until listening to this pod cast.
Thank you Rich, great segment as usual.💜
Thank you Simon for being a strong voice. 👍
What an informative interview. Simon, you are incredibly knowledgeable and your ability to speak about such a wide range of topics and reference the research papers (and their authors) without using notes is quite impressive. You make me want to get my master's in nutrition😊. Rich Roll, I'm a fan, have been and will continue to be. Keep these shows coming.
In 2017 your videos helped me navigate my nutrition as I learned a plant based life and ensured I ate enough nutrients.
Thank you for keeping all of us up to date on living well! ❤
Good line from Simon about carbohydrate quality 'more black beans, less jellybeans'.
All carbohydrates are the same. They all convert to sugar. There is no difference in quality. High Carb WFPB will yield the same results as a junk food vegan diet. Veganism is the biggest scam on human dietary health. You’re basically running your body on sugar. Plants don’t nourish, only animal foods do. Why vegans don’t get fat on a high sugar diet is because they’re lacking nutrition from animal foods to store any of it as fat. Animal-centric diet is the only true healthy diet.
Simon Jack lmao.
It’s nice to hear some support for fermented foods from the research. That confirms my personal experience of having huge positive changes in my health after starting to ferment foods at home, including kombucha. My decades-long candida problem disappeared, I’ve gotten fewer colds, and I have better digestion. For me, it was as big a transformation as going plant-based. For those not starting from a place of disbiosis, maybe it wouldn’t be.
Thank you so much for this extremely interesting talk! I'm seriously impressed by Simon Hill's memory capacity. He gave names and dates and so much science stuff without having any notes (or Google) in front of him.
Thank you for educating me on “complete” proteins, something I was always mystified about especially as a vegetarian who trains with weights…the entire segment on proteins was very enlightening
Ya the crude proteins from plants have to be selected and paired so you don't have any deficiencies of vitamin. Humans have never had a fully vegan society until the invention of vitamin and supplements. Only vegetarians because they eat fish and eggs for those essential amino acids and fatty acids.
Eat farm to table. Stay away from man made manufactured food like stuff. Take care.
I’ve got a 1 year old at home who we just switched her over to pea milk from whole milk due to constipation and wow, what a difference it made. Would love to learn more about plants effect on child development!
I wished I have known that 4 years ago…. My daughter had to follow a treatment to treat her constipation for years because of milk formula…. I just didn’t know then…
@@relaxo2739 sorry to hear that. It’s brutal to watch your child go through. Wishing her all the best.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill killer! Thank you for the resources.
Simon Hills podcast “plant proof” has so many episodes interviewing moms and also specifically registered dietitians who focus on brining up your kids on a vegan/plant based diet! They’re amazing!!
Can never go wrong keeping them on fruit and veggies. We get sick when we consume animal products - namely high fat and high protein diets. Woman’s breast milk contains very little protein. It’s the glucose that fuels them and aids them in growing. Best “milk” around our house is bananas and water in a blender. Check out Medical Medium - next level stuff.
I’m just reading T. Colin Cambell’s new book, The Future of Nutrition, where he exhaustively argues against the focus on saturated fat as a “convenient alibi to avoid blaming the real cause, animal based protein…saturated fat is not particularly chemically reactive, a property required for causing disease or initiating evens that promote disease” Campbell, 2021, 135-136). Would love to see you interview Campbell, Rich.
Wow. How has the vegan community misses this? Not heard this before
Yeah, that's a comparison like, well we should focus more on not smoking than on not drinking alcohol. Why not decrease both animal products and saturated fats while increasing the amount of plants, freshness, diversity, veggies being organic, fiber, eating completely animal product free, etc. That would be the intelligent response. By the way I'm just eating a big dish of a colorful salad and fermented foods for breakfast! 🤗
It’s pretty hard to detangle animal protein and saturated fat impacts on health because they mostly come together.
Nature do things perfectly. We should eat everything we find in nature. In the proportion nature designed for us. We are designed to some animal products. Healthy and wild, nature fed animals. And a lot of diverse plants and vegetables. But we've been destroying the way nature express itself naturally. So now we're lost. We, humans, try to get the truth about everything because we can't accept/understand/acknowledge that we're alone with our own consciousness, and connected to everything at the same time. We are always more exposed to screens, adds, informations, entertainment, mirage.... Avoiding the profound connection with ourself and the rest of the living beings surrounding us. What's outside is just the reflection of what's inside of us, and vice versa.
I love Campbell, but sometimes he focuses too much on protein--perhaps because that is what he studied. Sat animal fat is a culprit in raising LDL and carrying a high load on toxic chemicals--among other things. Those effects aren't the protein.
Rich Roll is generally fantastic, but the nutrition episodes are always the best!
These interviews get me thru my day, and motivate me to get to the gym. Thank you both of you..
I'm one of those people that a high-protein, low-carb diet (primarily consisting of lean animal protein) led directly to a heart attack at 49 years old. Admittedly there is no direct proof of that other than the impact of cholesterol and the inflammation that lead to the rupture of the cholesterol and subsequent blockage by blood clot that led to my heart attack. So, the choice to go the other route, a WFPB, higher carb diet was a natural choice to reduce/reverse the heart disease. It would be one thing if it was genetic, but there is no history of HD in my family and I've never even had remotely high cholesterol (the highest I ever tested was 169, which is on the higher side of "normal", but still well below 200). But, now I am on statin's for life (although it'll be interesting to see what my doctor does when my cholesterol drops below 100 soon...I was at 106 before the WFPB diet).
I have taken a major scalpel to saturated fats and sodium in my diet and have been working on increasing fiber and trying to balance with a little more plant protein to make sure my carb ratio isn't so high. So far, it seem to be working and I feel great while starting to see some progress in weight loss. My biggest challenge right now is keeping my calories up high enough to not lose weight too quickly (or in an unhealthy way) without resorting to bad calories because I am also trying to add in regular exercise.
Thanks for a great discussion!
How long were u on that diet for? 49 years? I bet not. What else were u consuming during and before? How were all your other lifestyle factors like stress, relationships, sun exposure etc. Many confounds to ur N of 1
GREAT GREAT information. I love the way Simon explains it all. His pace , his voice , just perfect . Thanks a bunch 👍👍😊😊
Agree! Love his soothing voice too.
*"Only I can change my life, no one can do it for me" - Carol Burnett*
Exactly, ppl who are poor are lazy
It’s podcasts like this that helped me become plant based. This is what got me started listening to Rich Roll and I’ve been a super fan ever since. I wished he had more podcasts like this one.
Thank you fellows. Simon spoke to me. I did dirty keto where this idea that saturated fats did not matter ruled. My wife kept entering info that I should be more mindful of saturated fats. Kind of shifted to less animal fats and more nut fats, but still ate keto bombs. I felt pretty good after 18 months, but LDL went from 90 to 135, and then a blood test a year later up to 178. I'm a data guy and could not just ignore the mainstream science that saturated fats should be a big consideration.
So I kind of shifted to exactly what Simon suggested. Plant-based low fat and very low saturated fat + fish and eggs whites. I'm also one that works on environmental issues, so the idea of low carbon footprint eating has always been a goal. So sitting here right now with a big productive garden ready to supply a lot of food and I can easily catch all my fish on demand and fill in with sardines and salmon. Pesca-flexaterian or whatever you call it.
Keto was suppose to reduce my A1C, but it stayed right around 5.5-5.6% too close to prediabetes. This diet seems to be working better as I track blood glucose with a CGM. I'm getting daily average glucose levels below 100 or A1C close or below 5.0. And it is crazy how going from a high fat keto diet to a low fat diet mods your body. Literally setting fire to body fat and showing muscles and veins I've never seen before.
Similar story here. Experienced some improvement with high fat keto but something feels off and looking for additional information.
Yayyyyyy amazing episode! So grateful for this awesome free info !!! 🥰🥰😀🙏
Glad you got value out of this Mayuri!
This was a very impressive interview. To be honest, I did not realize how educated the guest was. I had seen him on social media but just thought he was another vegan influencer. Lol. I learned so much!! 💛💛💛
Great interview, I love the Plant Proof podcast, and the book (Aussie) both help me make positive changes and support my journey. Rich I never miss an RR episode and you've helped me discover great people and take a more positive mindset. Much appreciated.
P.S I watched the full 3 hours!!!
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Lol me too… it went FAST!
The production quality of each new video is higher than the previous. Just wanted to acknowledge what I imagine is a lot of work.
All credit to my incredible team -- shoutout Blake Curtis, Dan Drake & Jason Camiolo for taking each episode further!
@@richroll Hey sir really appreciate all you and your team do and the amazing hard work you guys put into this I’m actually curious do you give the list of questions to your guest beforehand so they can kind of work on their answers or is it straight off the hip to kinda get a more natural answer? I was just curious
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I am not vegan, but I want to be. I have a lot of fears (or excuses?). I'm learning, gathering information, reading a lot, and making one vegan meal a day. I loved this interview and marched down to my Barnes and Noble and purchased my copy of Simon's book. I can't wait until it gets here. I found this man highly educated and I appreciated that.
I Was the same, I remember at the beginning I use to add protein powder (vegan) in a lot of my meals…
That’s what you need to do, educate yourself and prepare yourself well for the transition…
I was badly sick for 3 weeks because I couldn’t digest beans and went a little too full on…. But suddenly boom, no more discomfort….
4 months after all my IBS symptoms went away… 6 months + remission from retinal vasculitis…. Changed my life
@@relaxo2739 Thank you for sharing. I may already be ahead, I grew up eating beans, rice, oatmeal so my body won't have to adjust to an introduction of these main important whole foods.
Change can be super scary to many people. So taking one step at a time, one day at a time makes it so much easier. Perhaps watch a few health related, environmental or animal rights documentaries to ‘fuel’ you with visuals. So many credible resources to help you make the change sooner then later.
once you grasp the concept entirely and learn how to eat the correct foods iit becomes easy. As your body rids itself of the fats plugging cells you will feel so great it is amazing
Rich Roll looking incredible for a chap in his mid 50’s.
Appreciate that -- just turned 55!
@@richroll congratulations 🎉!
@@richroll happy birthday rich. love your podcast. keep going. and you look great. 😎
Rich looking incredible at 55? LOL
Here is how 54 yo keto girl looking.
She is on keto for 14 years
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@@daimos777 but her arteries will be those of a much older person.
Next level knowledge - huge thank you to both of you 🙏🏼 I’ve completed recently the whole plant-based nutrition course at university in UK and these are indeed the most difficult issues raised, i.e. benefits of low carb diet, reducing polyunsaturated fats intake to a minimum, should we eat more plant proteins or is it harmful, not to mention some supplements and risk associated with overdoing those when in fact they may be unnecessary for some. I feel much better equipped now that I have watched your conversation.
Great great information. Thank you both!!!!!
I'm a vegan who goes to the gym. Have been serving me well for years. All health markers excellent:)
@@TheProofWithSimonHill thank you! I love it! I'm a neuroscientist who one day just simply could no longer do animal studies no matter what, so switched to research using human samples. being vegan makes sense for me mentally, physically and spiritually
Vegan for just 6 months… but became a powerhouse at the gym at 40 y
@@relaxo2739 amazing!! I'm super proud of you! absolutely beautiful:)
my grandma said at xmas dinner that just switching from milk to oat/almond milk drastically reduced her cholesterol level in a very short time. Dairy is scary! (look up the video by that title for a real mindblower)
This is an amazing podcast! Just finished a year of study to get my NASM Nutrition Coach Certification. This lines up with my learning. To learn and not to do is not to learn!
One of the most insightful and deep-dive podcasts on the plant-based diet I've ever seen 👏👏👏 Simon Hill has a new follower 😋
Thank you. Each topic which you touched upon with Simon dug up pure gold. Thank you Rich and Simon! Heartfelt gratitude.
I'm in love!! I could listen to Simon all day long...So much info..explained patiently...Great interview!!
Fantastic interview. So informative as usual Simon. I can also vouch for Eden being one of the best plant based restaurants I have been to. Amazing food!
@19:22 If you do the same thing as everyone around you, how can you expect different results? This is such a prolific statement & so incredibly true. I look at my brother, sister, mother, father, nieces, nephew, cousins, aunts & uncles & see how different I eat. None of them care anything about eating vegetables or fruits & all of them have one kind of illness or the other. I am the only one who has no illness & takes no medications whatsoever. I just eat a clean plant based diet & they all tease me about it. Sickness & medication is normal for them.
I want build on what Simon says about “epidemiology” because I’ve noticed these statements among other podcasts as well and they are not completely accurate. As an epidemiologist and somebody studying towards a PhD in Evidence Based Healthcare, I wanted to clarify the following: Epidemiology is divided into 2 branches: (1) Descriptive Epidemiology which studies disease distribution within populations over time and (2) Analytical Epidemiology which studies factors that affect disease distribution. “Observational” studies are Descriptive Epidemiology and their function is to understand how disease is distributed. There is no intention to use descriptive epidemiology to draw conclusions about causal relationships. A cohort study (which is often times conflated as observational) is not descriptive. It is analytical epidemiology where a factor that may affect disease is being studied to draw a conclusion about if there is an association between that factor and the disease. Then an intervention study (like a Randomised Controlled Trial) is performed to confirm the association found through the cohort study. Far more important than an “Evidence hierarchy” is understanding the purpose of different study designs and what they are intended to accomplish. Additionally, the evidence hierarchy is largely no longer used. A better method for understanding the quality of research evidence is GRADE.
Something else that is vital to understand is that claims about causality are underpinned by 3 prerequisites: (1) There must be an established biological mechanism that makes a causal claim plausible (I.e. we must know from in vitro studies that x is biologically linked with y); (2) The casual pathway between x and y must be independent (I.e. the pathway cannot be affected by a different factor); (3) There must be a body of evidence that confirms the association and causal relationship.
The causal pathway must be independent because other factors may affect the relationship between x and y. If a factor affects the relationship it can be either a confounder or an effect modifier. A confounder is a factor that has its own causal pathway with the study variable, whereas, an effect modifier will act directly on the relationship between x and y to either enhance or inhibit the effect.
So the in vitro studies and the cohort studies are pre-requisites to making causal claims. This is the fundamental reason why animal based diets have no grounds to make causal claims outside of “they are harmful to health” because we already know from the in vitro studies and the cohort studies what the biological effects are and how they are associated with disease distribution. RCT’s studying the causal pathways between animal based diets and disease are fraught with confounders and/or effect modifiers because of the complex relationship between plants based foods and good health outcomes. The RCT will not change the biology, they either confirm the biology or show that there is no difference between the study factor and random chance. They can never show that animal based foods are healthy or promote good health. Only that the negative effects that they have are modified or confounded by the positive effects of plant based foods.
Making kombucha at home is easy, I would highly recommend. It tastes great!
I am immensely thankful for this broadcast !!!!!
How can people give so much thought to the PALEO DIET if in that period the expectancy of human life was not further than 35 years of age ??!! Men ate to survive, not to perform - thrive - last.
There was a skeleton of a prehistoric man found in Brazil who was between 40 and 50 years of age. There could have been older ones. Just like 200 years ago, there were many simple things that could kill you for which there were no cures. I remember a skeleton that had a broken leg, another with a cracked skull, and another that had a spear head in his chest area. Then there were all the animals and poisonous plants. A mummified one had a small bit of meat and some grain in his stomach.
I’m not sure if you know about this or not but you seem to be missing infant mortality factors
Just back from training to listen to this. Fabulous start to the new month!!
What a beautiful conversation and two beautiful people! I didn't want this to end. Much appreciated!
I grew up in Cork Ireland and when I was 19 I got a job in an abattoir. I was on the kill floor. One of my jobs was cutting off the cows heads, hanging them on a hook, dropping the tongue and washing the head with a power hose.
Further down the line the heads were stripped of meat and went into the burger tray including lips.
We processed 400-500 cattle per day 5 days a week. The cattle just kept coming in packed into trailers sometimes in 30c heat if we had a heat wave in the summer. This practice was probably illegal. We had vets inspecting the organs and the condemned organs had an x from a knife and went on a conveyor belt to pet food.
The cattle the size of elephants were condemned as it would indicate the use of steroids. I have seen farmers crying after being caught as the farmers often hung around to see their cattle being processed. Of course the also hung around to see if they got away with steroid use. Being caught meant losing tens of thousands of pounds and probably legal issues.
The cattle were kept in holding pens and then led up to the kill box being beaten with plastic pipes and electric shock prods terrorising them up the final concrete journey to the kill box. They were shot in the head with a bolt from a 'humane killer' but when we had contracts with Arab countries they sent their own killer. A bar in the kill box pulled the cows head up so the killer could slice the animals throat with a knife almost the size of a machete.
The animals eyes were rolling around in it's head and the fear must have been horrendous. There was blood everywhere. This was normal for me. I was living in an agricultural community and it was just a job for me. I remember it made me very cold-hearted and angry. In hindsight I think it psychologically damaged me. I have read it can cause PTSD and the talk in the job was that people that work in slaughter houses are never called for jury service as we end up lacking empathy.
This is an animal holocaust.
The nicely packed beautiful piece of meat you see in a supermarket has had a terrible journey before it ends up on your plate. The industrial slaughter of billions of animals worldwide in terrible conditions makes me question the type of species we are. I am ashamed to be a human. We are a terrible species. We have to change or there will be nothing for our grandchildren.
I can only imagine how horrific an occupation like this would be. Wow 😱
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It was normal at the time because I was young and in an agricultural community.
In hindsight it is horrendous
I think it was Paul McCartney said “if slaughterhouses had glass walls we would never eat meat again”
We have also destroyed the rivers and oceans
90% of species of fish almost extinct
We are a disgusting species 😕
One of my favourite Australians.... the other being Lucy Bartholomew :-) Your book is full of absolute GOLD Simon; its been available in NZ for a wee while, so thank YOU for writing it.
Great show! It is so sickening and sad that food scientists have made these processed food to not only to be convenient but also addicting. I know I am still making changes to erradicate these kinds of foods from my diet. PMA!
You guys went the distance on World Vegan Day! thanks for the pod. Can't wait to get the book.
Love this conversation. Can't wait to read Simon's book!
Congrats on 4 yrs! I discovered your channel early in the pandemic. Just made your queso yesterday for first time. 🤤💓 this is the meal plan service I’ve been waiting for! 🎉💃can’t wait for the release.
I am awestruck!! This guy is a rockstar, going on and on siting study after study. I’m gonna have to listen to it again to really get it. Thank you so much to you both! Can’t wait to get the book! 😎😊
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The book is great 👍
Plant based for fifteen years, five kids all raised plant based since birth. I have had so much criticism for that! They are THRIVING. I have found recent turns and twists in the nutrition discussion sphere so confusing - and I am a geek - a real lay geek intent on knowing the stuff….. not easily fooled. I am so glad I found this. Helped me very much to ground right back in to the backbone of what I chose fifteen years ago. For the record, I am very healthy and the last time I had my ldl checked two years ago, it was right on 60. I don’t eat perfect and neither do my kids, but I know the principles and hold them in my brain. I am a big fan of soil regeneration and looking after the careful balance of all life - I am more interested in that conversation than being distracted by “carbon” - deforestation and ocean acidification are problems that we need to address - we don’t need to be distracted with trading carbon around, but knuckling down to what matters. Thank you, gentlemen, I enjoyed showing my seven year old son how there are other men like his Dad - who are “big and strong” on a plant based diet. Peace and gratitude.
Great yak! Thanks for organizing the show so well and time stamping key notes. I appreciate you doing this so much! Allows me to simply take a screen shot and the info I want to look into deeper is seen easily on the screen 🤘
This video is MUCH better to watch 1.5 speed.
the *Mediterranean* diet of the 1950s is not the same as the Mediterranean diet today. Back in those days, olive oil was used sparingly, nowhere near like it is today.
This would have to be the best talk on the various components of a diet that I have heard well done guys very much appreciated
I'm Vegan and will avoid all oils.I just feel better. Nuts and seeds are just fine, thanks.
It is a great to see older people rocking it! Hopefully you could have more elderly people that are doing great things in future episodes. Love you Rich!
I am 66 and have familial hypercholesterolemia and have been a lacto-vegetarian for well over 40 years and for years I have eaten a mostly plant based diet (vegan leaning except for very rare holiday cheese nibbling). I also have genetically high LP(a). My LDL cholesterol keeps climbing (223) but my heart scans always show ZERO plaque. My cardiologist says that primarily my diet but also my regular moderate exercise probably have saved my life. He just now decided I should try a low dose statin, but that is only preventive since my arteries are absolutely clear. This plant based diet really matters!
Guess your living proof that Hi LDL does not cause heart disease.
Simon needs to get off his soap box about Sat fat to Hi LDL to CVD as it is clearly wrong and discredits all his otherwise good advice.
Many carnivores boast clear scans too!🤷♀️
I went vegan in 2015 and to be honest I rarely got sick ever since. I used to be ill every other month before that 😅
I do blood analysis every six months and the results show that I’m healthier than ever. I started working out and I’ve been able to build muscles. People can’t even believe I’m on a plant-based diet.
I can go on and on about how it’s been and how I’ve been feeling in the past 8-9 years but I know I’m never going back.
Wow! Awesome!
So thorough! A good refresher with lots of new helpful info, as well. Thanks guys!🙏
Lots of new info , same old result ! No matter how much science you put out there , you are just not designed to eat like that , it’s just a matter of time for most folks to crumble.
@@michalgniewek1147 Eat like what? Plant-based or omnivore? Just want clarification. Thanks.
@@birdybirdy7737 plant based ! I have seen enough peoples health being destroyed by it , one after another coming back to eating meat because their health crumbled
@@michalgniewek1147 you talk rubbish, every animal you eat gets nutrition from the earth plants/grass even carnivore animals eat others that get nutrients from plants, if a person eats plants they will adapt.
@@Chris-kr7gg that's what I used to think and after being vegan for 4 years my health crumbled , eat like herbivore and comeback in few years time
I have been on low carbo since January 1.On January 1 I was 242.It’s now February 4 and I am 220 with lots of energy.I am eating lots of arugula,fish,seeds,green drinks,red bell peppers,hummus,nuts,fermentation foods,expresso,peanut butter and that’s about it.Oh and various anti-worm stuff.
I did that for years.... I now have a big fat kidney stone, and other issues. Be careful with the greens, nuts, and other high oxalate foods.
I now eat low carb meat based and dropped 50lbs. Still working on the kidney stone and other endocrine issues.
Ayyyyyyy more plant-based content. Love it, Rich! Thanks!!!
It would be awesome to see you speak with Paul Saladino. Conversations from opposite sides of the debate are very important and enlightening.
It would just prove the point that not everyone is the same. That is the elephant in the room of every one of these conversations.
Why? Rich Roll is an Ex-Layer a very good Interviewer. He is not a scientist, nutritionist or doctor. (They actually spoke together in a „the Minimalist“ Podcast, which was not so good.
Paul Saladino should speak with dr. Greger or Simon Hill.
This should be mandatory to watch in schools and universities
Agreed!
We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers, leave them kids alone
Hey, teachers, leave those kids alone
All in all it's just another brick in the wall
All in all you're just another brick in the wall
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I have a picture (still shot from the video) in my office-people on conveyor belt to become ground meat-the analogy for our food system.
@@freeian2 yeah I know the image you mean from the music video..I think the kids wearing pig face masks.
FANTASTIC podcast! It took a couple starts & stops to make it thru - now it's time to go back and listen again from the start. :)
Thanks for helping me feed my brain brain today guys…great information, interesting discussion!
love this interview, I just got Simon's book and I love his take on protein. I have been WFPB for 4 years and it is true that sometimes we don't focus enough on protein in the vegan community. thank you!
Thank you Rich and Simon for such a ‘rich’ conversation. I especially enjoyed the last ten minutes about regenerative farming, and marginal land. I am doing exactly this through my Non Profit ‘Grow Bamboo Initiative’ - we plant 🌱 bamboo in Nepal, on marginal land - not only marginal but also land slide prone and prone to flooding. As the intricate bamboo rhizomes are the perfect soil barrier. The bamboo is planted by rural villages/farmers on communal land, which they can then harvest and use the bamboo for so many purposes, as to create an additional income for them. At the same time bamboo releases 35% more oxygen than trees so is a very quick to absorb carbon. Bamboo is a superstar and a miracle that still is such an underdog.
How incredible!! I would love to go to Nepal and plant bamboo!
@@lizzzarduh yes! My plan is to arrange trips to Nepal to plant bamboo! Once travel gets back to normal! 😀
@@QEsther-Ruth Amazing.
This was an amazing talk! Thank you Simon and Rich. I wish those from the carnivore camp could see this.
Anything that removes processed junk is good for humanity, whether it’s vegetarianism, veganism, carnivore, Paleo, Mediterranean, etc. We all should explore and do what works for us physically and emotionally, and not be divisive.
Great conversation - and truly interesting that you told about the 10 week research in two Group ….1) increasing fiber and2 ) increasing fermented food - and the differences that was found. In decreasing inflammation and increasing immunity - in Classica Chinese medicine this is Well known and if you are ill you beginning with very simplified whole plants and then you add more and more diversity - and choose a raw nonpasturized version ( or make your own) 😊🎶🍀🎵🐸