4:40 I was wondering why he was throwing out shoryukens at such long range. A few seconds later, it all made perfect sense, and all I could do was scream and cheer along with the crowd.
@duckie258 The Shoryuken motion can be input as Forward > Down > Down Forward > Forward +punches. Notice the last 3 motions(d, df, f=QCF) are the same as the first three motions of your super (QCF). When you do a shoryuken motion, you've already buffered half of your super, so if you input it again right after, the super will come out automatically. It acts as a basic option select against Dhalsim while "fishing" for limbs.
I'm watching this aswell, years on... Still the best match. So much technology of the game shown and this was like weeks after the game was released... Incredible.
WOW DAIGO. I JUST LOVE how he's throwing hadokens to just think about what he's gonna do. Its a great way to calcutate everything. Most amazing sf4 player on earth :)
@topdawg122 lol. just asking, how does he cancel it? i've done something like this sometimes when i just mash all the buttons and the joystick in the arcade (send a hadoken and a metsu together) and i just dun get how i do it too lol.
I just realised Daigo didn't have this super bar fully charged at 4:24 and 4:25. I'm guessing if the shoryu lands, it woulda give him enough to charge up the bar. PS: Just look at how fast the shinku followed the shoryu. Nobody in the world has such amazing reaction times unless it's an option select.
@Marceles45 it wasnt reaction, he was doing the motions for a dp super cancel. if the dp whiffs its just whiffs. if it hits or is blocked it cancels into super. it works well on dhalsim since he can't block a srk from half screen so it will only hit him if he sticks out a limb.
@Catalinutz212 did u get that from my comment in the otter video? lol ^^ acctualy the boxer's name was "M.Bison" but everybody knows that "M" is for mike
@CrazyBeatboxer Some of the shoryukens are being used simply as a deterrent for spacing purposes, others in an attempt to out-prioritize Dhalsim's regular attacks.
i get what you mean by him doing the light shoryuken occasionally (lol) to get dhalsim. but why would he send a metsu just by doing a QCF hard punch instead of 2-QCF punch?
wow watching high level dhalsim play from 1 and a half years ago is really cool. it's much more active, much riskier. lots more jumps, more moving forward, more attempted antiairs, etc. very different style. seeing a game's strategies evolve over time is pretty interesting.
Best Sim in the world. He won the Japanese SF4 tournament and almost beat Daigo in this one! He definitely is the best Sim in the world, bar none and a pleasure to watch!!
sephlock your timing has got to be absolutley perfect it use to do that to me as well but if you notice ryu's foot barely hits the ground when he goes into the second ex tatsu. I have done it a handfull of time but it usually flings my oppenant to the opposite side lol just keep practicing.
@duckie258 Basically Daigo just does a light shoryuken every so often to try and catch the very end of Dhalsim's hand. He inputs the motion for a light shoryuken plus he inputs a quarter circle forward plus hard punch right after the shoryuken. So if he misses the limbs he'll just do a shoryuken and he'll be in the air so Ryu's super won't come out accidentally since he's in the air, But if he connects with the limbs then he'll cancel the shoryuken straight into Ryu's super & it should hit
@FiveEcho Yup it's not luck. I think, in my humble opinion, it's called option-select. Basically, Daigo inputs a light shoryu and then a shinku hadoken immediately after. Two things can happen after this combination. One, if the shoryu didn't land, then the shinku won't be executed and Daigo will just do a light shoryu. Two, if the shoryu lands, then the shinku will immediately follow. This explains the numerous 'random' shoryus that Daigo's been throwing out at 4:24 and 4:25 and 4:46.
sim is one of the hardest character to learn man because he's got really low hp, super slow, and must live by zoning. it would take years to get as good as iyo with the pokes and zoning. iyo played sim since sf2
you may see the mistakes made but it's also the mentality daigo placed in iyo's head that made iyo do the things he did and the mistakes he made. it's a lot of mind games going on that are beyond just execution and reaction.
he's doing crouching light punch because it looks at the beginning it looks like a standing fierce. It's how Iyo use to confuse his opponents on when he'll throw his standing fiece because they are so easy to counter. Iyo was baiting Diago to try to Shoyuken he's standing fierce when he's actually throwing crouching jab.
Got a borderline-nooby question... At 4:46, how was that possible?Daigo used five bar... he did a dragon punch, used one bar to cancel out of it, and then used four bars for the super move.
@knutitup I know what you mean, but in actuality, pros do pay attention (perhaps closer attention) to the tier list. After all, tier lists are match up ranking created and compiled by the pros. For pros, it means the difference between pay day and a major loss. For more casual players, tier lists shouldn't play too big of a role. But I hear what you are saying, people should pick the one you like and play it well by learning the match-ups.
one reason is because the Japanese and Korean players play mainly in the arcade which meant they had to practice at all against those extra characters. But to be a bit more fair they shouldve at least allowed akuma/gouki at least since hes available in the arcade.
Daigo is just on a different level...especially when he is very closing to losing a round...im not trying to make a reference to that chunli parry just like everyone one on youtube does...but he just is the best in the world, no question about it.
Notice that when Daigo dashed -> whiffed SRK, he dashed into Dhalsim's poke range. If he was strictly trying to be conservative with fireballs, he would not have taken the risk of dashing into Dhalsim's poke range.
its because he had been hit in the air so nothing else could hit him till he touched the ground, and when he did the ex shoryuken had invincibility to get him out of there. A lot of characters can do the same thing as long as they have invincibility on the move.
Daigo still placed in the nationals, and is clearly capable of beating iyo, as seen here. And he beat Justing wong at evo, AND crushed the man at season's beatings. Daigo is no scrub.
"cancelling" Basically just means *As the ANIMATION for 1 move is coming out you input the command for a 2nd move that it will combo into* An easy cancel would be Quarter circle down to forward punch *with ryu to throw a fireball* and then immediately doing ANOTHER quarter circle down to forward and hitting punch again for the super so you'd do DTF Punch DTF punch quickly and what would come out is 1 fireball...then super...and it would combo, if that makes sense.
Best match of the tourney; how did Iyo not make it to the finals to face Daigo? I have to see Iyo's match versus Justin Wong I guess. Daigo time and time again pulls off amazing comebacks. Round 4 in this match was just brilliant.
wow, Exciting to watch. makes you wonder is Daigo learning and teaching in the heat of this match, in like 7 rounds? Dude is really a dangerous mind! Dude wins across different games, almost predictably, always elevating the most chosen, some would say scrub-friendly, character, Ryu, to tournament status, still gets respect, remains someone to watch. Speaks only Japanese?, but speaks the universal language of beat-down quite fluently, in several dialects.
![SFIII: 3rd Strike - Ken [Daigo] vs Chun Li [Justin Wong]](/img/n.gif)
4:40 I was wondering why he was throwing out shoryukens at such long range. A few seconds later, it all made perfect sense, and all I could do was scream and cheer along with the crowd.
I had rewatched that section in slow mo @ 0.5 speed & figured out how shoryuken was effective in throwing Dhalsim
The fighting system in SF4 was super smooth!!
2021 and it's still awesome
4:22 Setting him up w/ those missed shoryukens and hadoukens.
There are certain moves that only Daigo can perform.
@duckie258 The Shoryuken motion can be input as Forward > Down > Down Forward > Forward +punches. Notice the last 3 motions(d, df, f=QCF) are the same as the first three motions of your super (QCF). When you do a shoryuken motion, you've already buffered half of your super, so if you input it again right after, the super will come out automatically. It acts as a basic option select against Dhalsim while "fishing" for limbs.
It's not only that he did the impossible, it's that he did it at the optimal moment.
Amazing! This is the best match that I've ever seen. I love the crowd intensity which makes this vid even better!
5/5
I love how both of these dude standing up there all clam and emotionless....
oh shit that 5th round was close.
I didn't know you played Street Fighter lol.
Wtf dyrus
Daigo seems to work well under pressure... He is really a comeback kid.
Dhalsim put up a very good fight.
11 years ago 💀i am fucking old.
@@abdullahszn4167 yeah you are you middle aged loser Jesus go get a life
Wtf is Rong with you, did i say anything wrong? Did i sadly offend you?
@@abdullahszn4167 😂😂😂
I play this game everyday, so hopefully I can make it one of the EVO tourneys. It's amazing just watching the pro players.
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i thought at the end, reaching to pocket, more insert coins
A piece of the legend Daigo...
I'm watching this aswell, years on... Still the best match. So much technology of the game shown and this was like weeks after the game was released... Incredible.
WOW DAIGO. I JUST LOVE how he's throwing hadokens to just think about what he's gonna do. Its a great way to calcutate everything. Most amazing sf4 player on earth :)
@topdawg122
lol.
just asking, how does he cancel it?
i've done something like this sometimes when i just mash all the buttons and the joystick in the arcade (send a hadoken and a metsu together) and i just dun get how i do it too lol.
なんという勝負強さ！
@Cynosurewtf Is there a video of Arturo playing? I've heard a lot about him but can't find anything.
Epic fight. Iyo's Sim is great. Changing up the gameplan and adapting well. Daigo's reflexes are unbelievable though, 4:47 was nuts!!!
EPIC MATCH. Gotta be one of my all-time favorites.
thanks for the vids! good quality!
I just realised Daigo didn't have this super bar fully charged at 4:24 and 4:25. I'm guessing if the shoryu lands, it woulda give him enough to charge up the bar.
PS: Just look at how fast the shinku followed the shoryu. Nobody in the world has such amazing reaction times unless it's an option select.
@Marceles45 it wasnt reaction, he was doing the motions for a dp super cancel. if the dp whiffs its just whiffs. if it hits or is blocked it cancels into super. it works well on dhalsim since he can't block a srk from half screen so it will only hit him if he sticks out a limb.
One of the best SFIV Vanilla matches of all time. I remember i was extremly impressed then.
@Catalinutz212 did u get that from my comment in the otter video? lol ^^
acctualy the boxer's name was "M.Bison" but everybody knows that "M" is for mike
were is iyo is he retired or is he comming back if so when? also where can i catch more or his fights?
what a great video... thanks for posting it....
@CrazyBeatboxer Some of the shoryukens are being used simply as a deterrent for spacing purposes, others in an attempt to out-prioritize Dhalsim's regular attacks.
@Quy4life
So why aren't you in the SF4 US National Tourney Championships finals?
i get what you mean by him doing the light shoryuken occasionally (lol)
to get dhalsim.
but why would he send a metsu just by doing a QCF hard punch instead of 2-QCF punch?
wow watching high level dhalsim play from 1 and a half years ago is really cool. it's much more active, much riskier. lots more jumps, more moving forward, more attempted antiairs, etc. very different style. seeing a game's strategies evolve over time is pretty interesting.
That I know ;). But I think regulator was referring to the national tourney.
you can't tech out of a hadooken in this version of the game?
@Jake80073 Its street fighter 4... It says in the description :P
Best Sim in the world. He won the Japanese SF4 tournament and almost beat Daigo in this one! He definitely is the best Sim in the world, bar none and a pleasure to watch!!
sephlock your timing has got to be absolutley perfect it use to do that to me as well but if you notice ryu's foot barely hits the ground when he goes into the second ex tatsu. I have done it a handfull of time but it usually flings my oppenant to the opposite side lol just keep practicing.
I don't understand, what happened in round four at the end (I don't play SF4)?
probably the best match I've ever seen and it's a few months old now
@duckie258 Basically Daigo just does a light shoryuken every so often to try and catch the very end of Dhalsim's hand. He inputs the motion for a light shoryuken plus he inputs a quarter circle forward plus hard punch right after the shoryuken. So if he misses the limbs he'll just do a shoryuken and he'll be in the air so Ryu's super won't come out accidentally since he's in the air, But if he connects with the limbs then he'll cancel the shoryuken straight into Ryu's super & it should hit
@pratikh I don't remember too well but there are 3 ways or so to cancel I believe, I don't think he needed any bar... And I'm sorry if mistaken.
Daigo is amazing and this match is still 1 of the best SF4 matches I have ever seen.
@FiveEcho
Yup it's not luck. I think, in my humble opinion, it's called option-select. Basically, Daigo inputs a light shoryu and then a shinku hadoken immediately after. Two things can happen after this combination. One, if the shoryu didn't land, then the shinku won't be executed and Daigo will just do a light shoryu. Two, if the shoryu lands, then the shinku will immediately follow.
This explains the numerous 'random' shoryus that Daigo's been throwing out at 4:24 and 4:25 and 4:46.
@LeaflV A real pro doesnt throw matches, especially in the finals, would a team start giving up points to the oposing team in the superbowl?
@emperorwiseman if you can't counter a hadouken than who's the scrub?
how did he do that 2 shinku tatsumaki in a row and still got to the right side? :O i've been trying to do this in training but i can't.
Hmm, I've had people do that EX Tatsu into EX Tatsu thing on me, but it always flung me out of the corner. Do you have to wait a bit or something?
Best exhibition of the SF4 era!
one of the best SFIV fights I ever seen
however how do you know he was trying to go for the super at that moment?
This fight was so much better than the Grand Finals between Daigo and Justin.
4:47 Maybe the most awesome thing I have ever seen done in a video game. That is pwnage and mastery...
ya that input short cuts make things more trouble some
sim is one of the hardest character to learn man because he's got really low hp, super slow, and must live by zoning. it would take years to get as good as iyo with the pokes and zoning. iyo played sim since sf2
Damn edge of my seat these two mastters of their fields
daigo's reactions are amazing
you may see the mistakes made but it's also the mentality daigo placed in iyo's head that made iyo do the things he did and the mistakes he made. it's a lot of mind games going on that are beyond just execution and reaction.
that was epic. get comeback and i love the double flying kick for the last match.
I didn't think that anyone could use Sim well in SF IV. Glad to see there are indeed people that can.
I love watching and playing fights this intense.
why wasnt iyo getting off the bkb b+mk-> lp yoga fire early?
lol at Iyo being a new face. He's only been playing since SF2CE, and he's a CVS2 legend.
he's doing crouching light punch because it looks at the beginning it looks like a standing fierce. It's how Iyo use to confuse his opponents on when he'll throw his standing fiece because they are so easy to counter. Iyo was baiting Diago to try to Shoyuken he's standing fierce when he's actually throwing crouching jab.
One of the best matches I've ever seen...
7:23 i cant get the full juggle, any help?
Watched this match now about 30 times and it never gets boring.
What happened @ OMGWTFBBQPWNED? Why did Dalshim suddenly fell?
i remember when this game came out i so kicked ass in the store lol but know everybody plays awsome!
Dhalsim’s weakness of being thrown in close range is obvious during 3rd fight
Just one word can express my opinion perfectly: EPIC O_O 5/5
Got a borderline-nooby question...
At 4:46, how was that possible?Daigo used five bar... he did a dragon punch, used one bar to cancel out of it, and then used four bars for the super move.
4:47 damn how fast is his reactions?
Great match.
Your telling me Ryu can juggle his hurricane kicks ?
@knutitup I know what you mean, but in actuality, pros do pay attention (perhaps closer attention) to the tier list. After all, tier lists are match up ranking created and compiled by the pros. For pros, it means the difference between pay day and a major loss.
For more casual players, tier lists shouldn't play too big of a role.
But I hear what you are saying, people should pick the one you like and play it well by learning the match-ups.
really? but ryu flashes in gold when he did the srk? so dats an ex srt --> super? or srt --> ex cancel --> super?
one reason is because the Japanese and Korean players play mainly in the arcade which meant they had to practice at all against those extra characters. But to be a bit more fair they shouldve at least allowed akuma/gouki at least since hes available in the arcade.
@wenisEVERYWHERE what do you mean clutch?
Daigo is just on a different level...especially when he is very closing to losing a round...im not trying to make a reference to that chunli parry just like everyone one on youtube does...but he just is the best in the world, no question about it.
The designer of Dhalsim would be proud. Iyo represents him like no other.
You gotta see more of Daigo's matches. This dude is the truth.
I think it's there but its just not showing it, like if you try to choose him, you are able to, but its invisible lol or idk its just my opionion
@spikeyguy777
i cant wait to see some videos of you owning daigo. I just CANT WEAIT DUDE!
Notice that when Daigo dashed -> whiffed SRK, he dashed into Dhalsim's poke range. If he was strictly trying to be conservative with fireballs, he would not have taken the risk of dashing into Dhalsim's poke range.
its because he had been hit in the air so nothing else could hit him till he touched the ground, and when he did the ex shoryuken had invincibility to get him out of there. A lot of characters can do the same thing as long as they have invincibility on the move.
What exactly was it Iyo got hit by?
always seeing that double hurricane kick ex is NICE!!!
One of the best matches i've watched so far, Iyo sim is sik and daigo's still a beast
@TheWordChaos he saw that punch coming. notice he did a dragon punch out of the blue a few seconds later...
What an amazing Dhalsim :D
Thanks for sharing!
@UltraDavid lol agreed.....thats y i went back to check this out...reminisce
Daigo still placed in the nationals, and is clearly capable of beating iyo, as seen here.
And he beat Justing wong at evo, AND crushed the man at season's beatings. Daigo is no scrub.
"cancelling" Basically just means *As the ANIMATION for 1 move is coming out you input the command for a 2nd move that it will combo into* An easy cancel would be Quarter circle down to forward punch *with ryu to throw a fireball* and then immediately doing ANOTHER quarter circle down to forward and hitting punch again for the super so you'd do DTF Punch DTF punch quickly and what would come out is 1 fireball...then super...and it would combo, if that makes sense.
make sure you're in a corner, and just input the second ex tatsu as soon as you slow down and are about to land from the first one
Best match of the tourney; how did Iyo not make it to the finals to face Daigo? I have to see Iyo's match versus Justin Wong I guess. Daigo time and time again pulls off amazing comebacks. Round 4 in this match was just brilliant.
Not a regular uppercut, it doesn't take any meter to cancel (cancel, not FADC) a dp into a super.
Japan vs Japan in the US National Championship or whatever it's called??? Crazy
wow, Exciting to watch. makes you wonder is Daigo learning and teaching in the heat of this match, in like 7 rounds? Dude is really a dangerous mind! Dude wins across different games, almost predictably, always elevating the most chosen, some would say scrub-friendly, character, Ryu, to tournament status, still gets respect, remains someone to watch. Speaks only Japanese?, but speaks the universal language of beat-down quite fluently, in several dialects.
You pretty much have to guess/anticipate that. Umehara might be able to hit them on reaction, but not most people.
what kind of controllers are they playing with