@@anhilliator1 just looked it up and it looks BANGER. Albeit I think a mech game like that would be perfect for Jakub Rozalski's 1920+ world. Either way thanks for recommendation.
I never get why devs do this shit. They'll have a great concept and story, make it into a great game with nice graphics, good elements and good, fun and original gameplay...then they're like "Ok team, what if, hear me out, we made this badass, great game of ours...only playable with the Kinect!?"..."Aww fuck ya! Great idea Bill! Let's add that in real quick before release!"... *2 months later, release day, at the home of an enthusiastic gamer about to start the game* "Aww yeah, I've waited 2 years anticipating this game I can't fuckin wai---WHAT THE FUCK!? KINECT REQUIRED!? NOOOOOOO!"
The game story, characters and atmosphere seem so amazing. I have always wanted to play a game that focuses more on the characters in a war scenario. But goddamn why did they have to fuck it up with kinnect? They should make a pc port
There was a podcast who were randomly talking about how terrible a Steel Battalion game on kinect would be. A month later it was announced at Tokyo Game Show.
I feel legitimately bad for Joe. You can tell he WANTED this game to be so good, but the Kinect 1.0 ended up fucking it over. You can also tell that the developers put all of their time and energy into this game, but it was just a disaster because of one piece of fucking hardware.
Hey, don't blame Kinect for a stupid game. If you aim correctly in Fable: Journey, it's an awesome game. But you do need to aim super careful which sorta keeps you from enjoyşng the enviroment.
Technically, it already does; they just went cheap and tried to make the Kinect do everything the regular controller didn't have the buttons for. I think you meant to say "the Original SB's controller support". In which case, I wish this was also on PC so we could get a hacked version with that support somehow...
***** Wow calling people idiots because they are right, It costs them 5$ to make an xbox controller Now Combine a Controller with a Keyboard for all the buttons and you will find out you could get it made for around 120$ if you use a decent keyboard and used a pair of joysticks BUT you could make it for even cheaper using a controller like i said above.
***** You do know nothing in this world costs much to make, It is just what people sell it for, a car brand new retail at 12k for instance probably cost only 6k to build.... Go learn the ways of business before talking to me biatch. :D
***** Does production cost mean anything to you? Everything that is made in this world is made cheaper than what they sell for... and usually for under half the price.
I'm really disappointed with this game. I feel like it had so much creativity and potential, but it was completely ruined by the Kinetc's God-awful controls. I feel like if this game's controls ran with the Wii U Gamepad, or even a regular controller, it would've been AMAZING.
Me and my friend Co-oped it with him running the controller and me trying to run the kinect, we didn't win the beach assault, hell we didn't make it off the beach.
Why didn't they just make this a PC game? A traditional keyboard has over 40 buttons plus when you factor in shift and control that makes for over a hundred strokes.
BrickBuster2552 Still doesn't make sense why the controller can't be modified to hook up onto a PC through a USB port or something. XBox controllers work with PCs, after all.
+BrickBuster2552 You would, honestly, rather play the game like this than have all actions mapped to your keyboard? Reeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaally?.. OP, I think that would have been an awesome idea. If they really didn't want the epic, Steel Battalion controller (for whatever reason...), they could have easily just dropped the Kinect thing altogether and used a keyboard for both, the XBone and PC versions. Not only would that have been far less infuriating to play but it would have also accommodated far more people. Anyone with an XBone or PC would have been able to play it and both games would have been, fundamentally, the same. So what's their excuse, then? Making the intricate controller was too expensive? Well, so is Kinect motion control... *When you compare it to mapping fucking buttons to a keyboard...* As a final thought, I'd like to mention, it would have also been much less costly to any gamers who may not have owned a Kinect or the XBones, stock Kinect, at the time.. Honestly, I just really don't get - wait... Goddammit... This greedy, greasy video game industry really needs a good old fashioned cleansing. With bullets.
You know what? This would make for an AMAZING vr game. Just imagine playing this with a vr headset and motion controllers. Make sure that the tracking is accurate and the various inputs work right and you have an incredible experience on your hands.
+Deadpools Sexy Hotline We sorta have stuff like that - Gundam SEED/SEED Destiny has the BuCUE, LaGOWE, and Gaia Gundam while there's also various animals with Zoids, lol XD
Monster Hunter games have the worst controls i have ever seen. I love MH but if controls were good the game would be too easy. So maybe they made it so for the challenge ? Im grasping at straws here. This game had so much potential...god damn you Steel Battalion
If that happened, then I guess I'm not eating and/or paying electric/water bills for a long time to get a VR headset and the hypothetical Steel battalion VR game. Yeah, my job sucks. Both in pay and who I work for/with. But what can you do in a society when it's all about who you know and not what you know?
his prediction about the kinect 2 at the end of the video has come true. Microsoft over hipped it and it turned out to only be slightly less annoying than the original.
I have always seen the Kinect as more of an accessory. In that regard it actually works very well. I have had my Kinect since launch and it recognizes my voice perfectly, signs me in automatically and generally works wonderfully. It only took several years of usage. Only. Microsoft recognized the uses it can have as an accessory. The Kinect 2.0 works very well but voice recognition and other small features only go so far when the motion tracking is still all sorts of goofy.
Mairo San Fable The Journey was fantastic, Child Of Eden and the Dance Central games worked very well too. Its not so much that the hardware doesn't work, its that it is incredibly difficult to program for it. As a dedicate gaming accessory it still has a long way to go but its not as bad as people make it out to be.
RANDOMNATION! They haven't been a good game company for the past 16 years. The worst thing they ever did was have Anita Sarkeesian help in the development of Mirror's Edge 2. I guarantee they'll go under by the end of the year.
Otto T There is no way to map as many buttons as this game would need to a controller. A Keyboard and mouse may work, but it wouldn't be great needing to remember 40+ keys. They would have to make a controller like the original had and no one is going to do that for a game that failed once.
@@GeneralErlend Thats exactly right. Now, 10 years after you said this, vr has made motion controls really good. if this game came out today, itd be great
+Cancer Frog "Stop going back. What the fuck. Stop doing that! Stop- What the fuck! Stop grabbing shit, I'm not grabbing shit!" The first time saw that I almost died of laughter.
So this randomly showed up in my recommendations again all these years later, and I noticed something really funny! at 15:20 look at his little kinect ragdoll thing: it's jerkin' itself!
"When i was a kid i always wanted a submarine game where you would see progressive damage and water would come in" Well joe, i know one game that would make your dream come true but it's like a side scroller. It's called "Barotrauma".
Blame Microsoft, neither Capcom nor From Software. They made this game to please Kinect and Microsoft, let'em think this game will bring Kinect to the whole new level: Innovation. But ... Joe said the rest =))
Imagine they remade this in VR today, and included an easter egg referencing Joe's "get your fucking hand off that" rant Or a joke difficulty that recreates the Kinect problems
You just said Steel Battalion would be superior on PC because you wouldn't be using the defining feature of Steel Battalion... That's like saying GTA V is superior on PC because you can mod it to have completely linear missions and no freemode.
Why don't they make kinect sensors you could strap to like your shoulders, elbows, and wrists. Better yet like a belt thing, which kinect seems to have trouble with. Why are kinect games such ass. We have the technology for this to not be ass. Yet it is. Again. And again. And again.
The Kinect would benefit greatly from sensors the gamer wears for more accurate readings. Look at Nintendo and Sony. The Wii and Wii U use an infrared sensor bar but also uses an infrared emitter on both the Wii Remotes and the Wii U GamePad. The PlayStation Move uses the PlayStation Eye Camera and a light up ball at the end of the Move controller. Kinect only uses cameras and many detection sensors and software but it barely can read anything. Kinect 2.0 is much better but has the same problems, unable to correctly read anything. The Kinect should have come bundled with sensors the gamer wears. It would have made the Kinect purely awesome and immersion.
Yeah, since the game relies so much on player gestures, the first thing the developers should have asked themselves is, "can the Kinect handle this?" before they wrote a single line of code. If the answer is "no" they should have developed for a different platform or interface.
This, makes me sad. So many good concepts, just...Destroyed by bad controls. I mean hell, especailly with the crew. If I had the money, i wouldnt be opposed to getting this game, a 360 and connect to at least...Try to fight with it to make it work. Just for the crew interactions. That's...depressing. Such a good concept gone. We never see anything like this anymore, and if only it was done better. It may have been at least...Seen more.
Well you’re not wrong there. At this point, you’re better off playing that game in VR than anything else. I’ve always loved VR, it makes you feel like you’re literally in the game, especially when you get the necessary VR accessories like index controllers, haptic suit, you name it!
Or maybe just bind stuff to the keys, since the keyboard has a ton o keys... "but it becomes hard to do anything with 30 bind buttons :C" IT*S A STEEL BATALION; DEAL WITH IT OR GO HOME also just slap red tape or glue paper markings with writing or symbols to differentiate the keys and shortcuts. That is how i play Steel batalion's xbox verion with my PC :D
Warhamer116 I've expanded on my idea a little too. I'd stick with the WASD keys to move the mech, of course, but I'm also thinking maybe you could use the Q and E keys to look left and right within your cabin, scroll up and down to lean forwards to and away from the glass window and to use your periscope, etc. Also, if anyone has a suggestion, I'm thinking of setting up a proper petition for PC port or an entirely new game for the PC, so feel free to add them to my comment thing.
As a Steel Battalion: Line of Contact veteran VT pilot, I really enjoyed this video. The day they shut down the LOC servers was a sad day. It was such a good community and such a great game. I remember how excited I was when a new Steel Battalion was announced...then it turned out this was it. Hopes brought up and torn down immediately. Steel Battalion was totally worth the $150 buy in cost. No other game is immersive. No other game feels so realistic. I pity anyone who never had a chance to play it. Thanks again for the video. Got me feeling nostalgic and angry at the same time.
Mechanics wise this would make for a great mech or even a tank game what with the progressive damage and crewmate interaction...too bad this got saddled with the kinect
With the whole ps4 touchpad and PC's having a large number of keys this game or subsequent sequels could be really amazing. The potential is there: The crew member dying mechanic, the epic battles etc. It's a good game on a crappy console and next gen could really make it look and play amazing.
Funny thing... my good old Eyetoy for the PS2 still works, and games for it works as well, some of them are even fun! Developers should know the limits of the kinect or whatever they develop for. Kinect was clearly not designer for such games.
Let it be known across the land that Angry Joe could tell the future and saw what xbox was to do with the connect in their new console. Hence forth AJ should be our profit, the holy one, whose wisdom all who program must seek out.
You know if they had used only the controller instead of the kinect it wouldnt have the 40 buttons like the original but im sure it would at least be playable
RattKanVids They could have made an additional controller with 40 buttons that plugs into the secound port. Something like that should not cost more than 10€
Subscriber from the future here. Lol imagine what kinda stuff those "gaming journalists / critics" would come up with with this kinda story background setting in 2019 haha!
I will admit, when the chick died from the Kinect letting her not get helped, I was at a loss of words. War... War never changes. But in seriousness I knew that Kinect would fail when I saw previews of it at my step uncle's office who works at Microsoft because of no point of origin like the Wii had. If this was rebooted for PC, I would have gotten into it. Aw well I guess I'll have to watch a game movie of this some time.
Yea! With the increased amount of buttons and the better graphics capabilities of most $500+ PCs this game would look even better and would have MUCH better controls then the kinect will ever be able to offer (within most of our life times).
I think it would have been interesting if they had the massive Steel Battalion controller, but when something happens in your cockpit, and you have to do something your character wouldn't be able to do with their buttons or levers or basically anything that isn't attached to the mech, you have to go for your normal controller to do it.
Someone should optimize this game for the old Steel Battalion Keyboard or just a normal one somehow. Its too bad a good game is left unplayable due to some shitty software that's even had itself cancelled.
Haven't you seen Capcom's reputation as of recently? It is rumored that not even talent can shine in the Black Hole known as Capcom when money is involved.
Isaac Argesmith Actually most of their original talent (Keiji Inafune, Creator of Megaman, Clover Studios a.k.a. Platinum games, and others) have left for developer vs. Publisher disputes, constant sequals and releases, and other issues. And most of their flagship games are being outsourced by questionably sub-par developers like DmC for Ninja Theory, Lost Planet 3 for Spark Unlimited, and maybe others. If their new talent can get Capcom back on its feet, and its declined fanbase returns, then Capcom can survive another year or two.
Someone should make a petition to get this game on pc and iron out kinect and it other problems in its entirety. This game could have been good and a mouse would be so much easier to control than the bs that is kinect.
3 years late but... no the Playstation eye did not work better, it did work differently on a technical level, the kinect, as flawed as it is, differentiated movement and TRIES to track your body, the Eye toy just tracked general movement, regardless of what it was, l
8 years later, and now I gurentee a VR remake would be absolutely amazing.
Do yourself a favor - Look up Panzerwehr 1949.
@@anhilliator1 just looked it up and it looks BANGER. Albeit I think a mech game like that would be perfect for Jakub Rozalski's 1920+ world. Either way thanks for recommendation.
absolutely
Even with just cameras, the improvements in Deep Neural Networks over the last decade should fix all the detection issues.
Yep, that actually would make the game worth playing, and worth every penny.
Kinect---"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."
This comment has made my day.
iv heard that phrase but i forgot what it came from
2001: A Space Odyssey
Kristy Roth Watch 2001: A Space Odyssey ASAP.
"Kinect, grab that handle on the right"
i'm sorry for the developers. The idea was amazing, everything could have worked if kinect wasn't bad
I never get why devs do this shit. They'll have a great concept and story, make it into a great game with nice graphics, good elements and good, fun and original gameplay...then they're like "Ok team, what if, hear me out, we made this badass, great game of ours...only playable with the Kinect!?"..."Aww fuck ya! Great idea Bill! Let's add that in real quick before release!"...
*2 months later, release day, at the home of an enthusiastic gamer about to start the game*
"Aww yeah, I've waited 2 years anticipating this game I can't fuckin wai---WHAT THE FUCK!? KINECT REQUIRED!? NOOOOOOO!"
+Justin Yatsko that reaction will totally be me when I buy a game that requires kinect
+Justin Yatsko oh and also lol
FromSoftware is very well responsible for this, not just Microsoft. It is like they heard what the Kinect is without ever trying one.
@@jyatsko89 Because Microsoft owns the licenses for the game so it has to be by their rules.
The game story, characters and atmosphere seem so amazing. I have always wanted to play a game that focuses more on the characters in a war scenario. But goddamn why did they have to fuck it up with kinnect? They should make a pc port
yeah but i hate that there barely no games like that
+zupergozer You should play brothers in arms
Pretty sure COD 3 is quite like that surprisingly
Better yet - VR remake.
The game already works similar to one, so why not go all-in?
There was a podcast who were randomly talking about how terrible a Steel Battalion game on kinect would be. A month later it was announced at Tokyo Game Show.
"What is the most important thing in a game? Control."
- Angry Video Game Nerd
Well being able to fucking play it
@@eyalochayon542 correct!
hey it's a reference a remedy game.
When I'm sad i watch Angry Joe ranting about shitty games.
I go to sleep listening to his bad game reviews.
+Rainbowhawk1993 same here!
+Rainbowhawk1993 same there quite soothing
me too
+Rainbowhawk1993 Looks like the American dream was actually a nightmare.
am I the only one laughing when Joe said "Steel Battalion: GET YOUR FUCKING HAND OFF THAT!!" ?
+Brian Jules i laughed when he showed the box that said that
Also, the box said wrote cashwhores in the bottom corner and i lol'd
+Brian Jules that he what he said
+Süper Tröller and he kinect logo said "Requires a fuckton of patience"
+Brian Jules Yes.
+Brian Jules i lmfao :D
12:30 Kinect killed Zoe! Those bastards!
at least the black guy didn't die first. :P
Hmmmm
I feel legitimately bad for Joe. You can tell he WANTED this game to be so good, but the Kinect 1.0 ended up fucking it over. You can also tell that the developers put all of their time and energy into this game, but it was just a disaster because of one piece of fucking hardware.
Adrian Goodman That simile, that GLORIOUS simile.
Hey, don't blame Kinect for a stupid game. If you aim correctly in Fable: Journey, it's an awesome game. But you do need to aim super careful which sorta keeps you from enjoyşng the enviroment.
Deniz Demir Are you really defending this piece of shit hardware?
***** Microsoft must be paying him to say that shiiiaatt as joe would say
If this had controller support I would play the shit out of this
Technically, it already does; they just went cheap and tried to make the Kinect do everything the regular controller didn't have the buttons for.
I think you meant to say "the Original SB's controller support". In which case, I wish this was also on PC so we could get a hacked version with that support somehow...
Hell, I'm thinking this might work really good with VR + Controller
IKR😫
holy shit yes...
In fact, that is exactly how most first-person games control anyway.
so bassicaly the game if talked about besides the kinect would be a fucking awesome but due to kinect it sucks right?
devastator5042 Yes
Pretty much.
Damn. I wonder what they playtested the game with. Maybe developers have some kind of super Kinect.
They need to remake this game with an actual Steel battalion controller.
***** That probably wont happen he says Even though they did it when they first released it....
***** Wow calling people idiots because they are right, It costs them 5$ to make an xbox controller Now Combine a Controller with a Keyboard for all the buttons and you will find out you could get it made for around 120$ if you use a decent keyboard and used a pair of joysticks BUT you could make it for even cheaper using a controller like i said above.
***** You do know nothing in this world costs much to make, It is just what people sell it for, a car brand new retail at 12k for instance probably cost only 6k to build.... Go learn the ways of business before talking to me biatch. :D
***** Good because if you actually had a brain you would understand.
***** Does production cost mean anything to you? Everything that is made in this world is made cheaper than what they sell for... and usually for under half the price.
I always watch Angry Joe when im bored. The dude cracks me up
Same!
Used to
Mohammed Aleef ya his videos used to be great now all he does is lame movie reviews
Mohammed Aleef same 😂
Alan Sadly its true. He is more interested in movie reviews now.
7:07 that "Tru dat" was PERFECTLY timed
Lol, I noticed that too...
im willing to bet it was inteded to be that way lol
Casper: "Timing!"
Awesome
I've been watching this particular review for a few years and I didn't notice that until I read your comment. 😅😅😅😅
I'm really disappointed with this game. I feel like it had so much creativity and potential, but it was completely ruined by the Kinetc's God-awful controls. I feel like if this game's controls ran with the Wii U Gamepad, or even a regular controller, it would've been AMAZING.
The kinect will continue to destroy dreams for as long as there is an Xbox to use it on.
FPSguy2 Exactly. Which is why Microsoft wised up and stopped bundling the Kinect with the Xbox One.
To bad the xbox one still sucks
Me and my friend Co-oped it with him running the controller and me trying to run the kinect, we didn't win the beach assault, hell we didn't make it off the beach.
I feel really sorry for you. I couldn't imagine how annoying it is to play that game ith the Kinect.
Why didn't they just make this a PC game? A traditional keyboard has over 40 buttons plus when you factor in shift and control that makes for over a hundred strokes.
Because removing the physical illusion of actually driving a mech from Steel Battalion is like cutting freemode from GTA V.
BrickBuster2552 But isn't that how the original Steel Battalion game was, just with a custom controller instead of a keyboard?
RepublicofEthan The controller was EVERYTHING.
BrickBuster2552 Still doesn't make sense why the controller can't be modified to hook up onto a PC through a USB port or something. XBox controllers work with PCs, after all.
+BrickBuster2552 You would, honestly, rather play the game like this than have all actions mapped to your keyboard?
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaally?..
OP, I think that would have been an awesome idea. If they really didn't want the epic, Steel Battalion controller (for whatever reason...), they could have easily just dropped the Kinect thing altogether and used a keyboard for both, the XBone and PC versions. Not only would that have been far less infuriating to play but it would have also accommodated far more people. Anyone with an XBone or PC would have been able to play it and both games would have been, fundamentally, the same. So what's their excuse, then? Making the intricate controller was too expensive? Well, so is Kinect motion control... *When you compare it to mapping fucking buttons to a keyboard...*
As a final thought, I'd like to mention, it would have also been much less costly to any gamers who may not have owned a Kinect or the XBones, stock Kinect, at the time.. Honestly, I just really don't get - wait...
Goddammit...
This greedy, greasy video game industry really needs a good old fashioned cleansing. With bullets.
You know what? This would make for an AMAZING vr game. Just imagine playing this with a vr headset and motion controllers. Make sure that the tracking is accurate and the various inputs work right and you have an incredible experience on your hands.
If they didn't use Kinect, the game would be much better
+Deadpools Sexy Hotline nahhhh pc is going to integrate motion controls now because of the oculus, virtuix omni, and the razer hydra.
well if it for pc it's better
***** Why? Are you a console peasant?
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
***** I find it stupid too. But neutrality is not an option in the console wars.
***** K, I'll do the dealing with it.
This review makes me want to play Steal Battalion Get Your Fucking Hand Off That what about you guys
same
I also want to play Can't Do Shit mode on Star Wars Kinect
good Kinect games:
Gunstringer
"Saving Private Ryan, but with Gundams!"
+Deadpools Sexy Hotline
We sorta have stuff like that - Gundam SEED/SEED Destiny has the BuCUE, LaGOWE, and Gaia Gundam while there's also various animals with Zoids, lol XD
This game would be perfect with oculus rift
Overwhelmingly Handsome Jack Lol Occulus Rift...I remember that.
Put the game on the Vive or something, the motion controls on their seem to work very well now.
It would be perfect for every VR device.
Yea man it's insane how in 3 years time we got working motion controls
Heh yeah like that'll happen
Developed by From Software? No wonder it's hard to even control it.
It's part of the experience bro!
😂
Monster Hunter games have the worst controls i have ever seen. I love MH but if controls were good the game would be too easy. So maybe they made it so for the challenge ? Im grasping at straws here. This game had so much potential...god damn you Steel Battalion
Huh? Is that a joke?
@@eval_is_evil what?
kinect always ruins everything GET RID OF IT MICROSOFT
patrick Katalenas integrated in the Xbox "one shit"
King Derner Cousland not all of the xbox ones some of them dont come with the kinect
***** YAY BRING OUT THE WINE
patrick Katalenas Steel Battalion:Get Your Hand Jerk Off That
Yeah Fuck the Kinect
If they would put STEEL BATTALION controller with a VR system that would rule all !!!
Joegernaut true
We need this in the modern VR. That actually works.
If that happened, then I guess I'm not eating and/or paying electric/water bills for a long time to get a VR headset and the hypothetical Steel battalion VR game.
Yeah, my job sucks. Both in pay and who I work for/with. But what can you do in a society when it's all about who you know and not what you know?
@@MLPIceberg what the fuck are you talking about
AJ predicted the shitty Kinnect 2 BS.
You know the power glove for the NES? THE KINECT IS LIKE THAT.
Mud Kip straight on
Mark Donkor your welcome to try
Eric Land hehe lol no thanks
Ah ha ha wow x'D
Now that's an insult to the Power Glove if I have ever seen one.
they need to re design this for vive or ps vr
and add multiplayer where 2 or 1 person can be in each mech
+sam scholey Yes, Steel Battalion in VR.
+sam scholey Indeed. That would revive this immersive franchise.
I was about to comment the same thing
sam scholey yasssss
his prediction about the kinect 2 at the end of the video has come true. Microsoft over hipped it and it turned out to only be slightly less annoying than the original.
*Hyped
Caleb Calvery thank you, my bad. Stupid typo!!!
I have always seen the Kinect as more of an accessory. In that regard it actually works very well. I have had my Kinect since launch and it recognizes my voice perfectly, signs me in automatically and generally works wonderfully. It only took several years of usage. Only.
Microsoft recognized the uses it can have as an accessory. The Kinect 2.0 works very well but voice recognition and other small features only go so far when the motion tracking is still all sorts of goofy.
Maybe in the future we might make a more precise and affordable system than this brick. We should call this the Diskinect,
Mairo San Fable The Journey was fantastic, Child Of Eden and the Dance Central games worked very well too. Its not so much that the hardware doesn't work, its that it is incredibly difficult to program for it.
As a dedicate gaming accessory it still has a long way to go but its not as bad as people make it out to be.
Steel Battalion + Battlefield + Arma = HOLY FUCK GAME OF THE YEAR!!!
+EA
Worst game of the year.
Dr. Steve Brule lol true, EA ruins everything really.
RANDOMNATION! They haven't been a good game company for the past 16 years. The worst thing they ever did was have Anita Sarkeesian help in the development of Mirror's Edge 2. I guarantee they'll go under by the end of the year.
michael hall no bewbs for us.
You forgot Halo.
If they would re-release this for PC with keyboard & mouse controls, it would be an instant hit...
Even better in VR.
am I the only one who think think would be better with the VR?
I think this game would be an excellent test for the Vive.
A test to see just how precise the vive is.
+Daniel Cannata It's very precise. Shooters work better than they did even on the Wii MotionPlus.
No you're not the only one who thinks thinks that
"These would've been great f#$&ing ideas, if you had buttons for them!"
BUTTONS!
That killed me XD
I read this exactly as joe said it. I love it when that happens
Still funny asf to this day 😂😂
Wait this game was made by the fucking Dark Souls team?
My god...
I don't think the game is bad. Its just the kinect that makes the game next to unplayable.
GeneralErlend
Indeed, the game could be re-released with a fixed control setup and prob do well.
Otto T
There is no way to map as many buttons as this game would need to a controller. A Keyboard and mouse may work, but it wouldn't be great needing to remember 40+ keys. They would have to make a controller like the original had and no one is going to do that for a game that failed once.
Zer0Hour17
", but it wouldn't be great needing to remember 40+ keys." I guess no one ever played a mechwarrior game.
@@GeneralErlend Thats exactly right. Now, 10 years after you said this, vr has made motion controls really good. if this game came out today, itd be great
5:15 This is still one of my favorite AJ moments to this day lmao
+Cancer Frog "Stop going back. What the fuck. Stop doing that! Stop- What the fuck! Stop grabbing shit, I'm not grabbing shit!"
The first time saw that I almost died of laughter.
+211Appolo THAT WAS TOO FUNNY. HAHAHAHH! XD
they should re-release with HTC Vive support
YES
Good idea...if the company still exist though
a company can buy the rights to the general and port it or get hired to port it... like what happened with zombi u
I just hope that the Star Wars: Battlefront VR game will be better than this shit.
From Software made this game.
So this randomly showed up in my recommendations again all these years later, and I noticed something really funny! at 15:20 look at his little kinect ragdoll thing: it's jerkin' itself!
😂😂😂😂
"When i was a kid i always wanted a submarine game where you would see progressive damage and water would come in" Well joe, i know one game that would make your dream come true but it's like a side scroller. It's called "Barotrauma".
I come from the future - It's called Iron Wolf / Iron Wolf VR.
Or just Silent Hunter series.
@@YourCorvus Dead
I just hope we can agree that it wasn't capcom's fault, it was that dammed kenects fault.
Capcom are a bunch of fuckbags anyways. I'll blame them too.
Blame Microsoft, neither Capcom nor From Software. They made this game to please Kinect and Microsoft, let'em think this game will bring Kinect to the whole new level: Innovation.
But ... Joe said the rest =))
We can blame capcom because of Umbrella Corps
^ yes, you can say that
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Imagine they remade this in VR today, and included an easter egg referencing Joe's "get your fucking hand off that" rant
Or a joke difficulty that recreates the Kinect problems
Yeah that would be a pretty funny self burn
Buttons! Buttons are your best friends. Kinnect is EVIL!
That's why I love PC, coz it got 100+ buttons, on a device known as keyboard.
Whats this mythical thing you call a keyboard?
anime fanboy101 the thing you typed on to make that message
Actually he/she most likely used their phone lcd screen.
You just said Steel Battalion would be superior on PC because you wouldn't be using the defining feature of Steel Battalion... That's like saying GTA V is superior on PC because you can mod it to have completely linear missions and no freemode.
GINsmalldoodle Still uses a keyboard
This would be such a good game if it came out again for VR or just normal gaming.
Why don't they make kinect sensors you could strap to like your shoulders, elbows, and wrists. Better yet like a belt thing, which kinect seems to have trouble with. Why are kinect games such ass. We have the technology for this to not be ass. Yet it is. Again. And again. And again.
The Kinect would benefit greatly from sensors the gamer wears for more accurate readings. Look at Nintendo and Sony. The Wii and Wii U use an infrared sensor bar but also uses an infrared emitter on both the Wii Remotes and the Wii U GamePad. The PlayStation Move uses the PlayStation Eye Camera and a light up ball at the end of the Move controller. Kinect only uses cameras and many detection sensors and software but it barely can read anything. Kinect 2.0 is much better but has the same problems, unable to correctly read anything. The Kinect should have come bundled with sensors the gamer wears. It would have made the Kinect purely awesome and immersion.
They should just stop making Kinect games all together. Let's face it. The creators, Microsoft if I'm not mistaken, screwed up with this console.
that would be to smart
Microsoft, please hire this woman.
Tharoxxx She would need skill in creating software. Unless you mean giving ideas, then I agree.
anyone feel like that it might have been better with a keyboard and mouse
cole train everything else is better than kinnect
Arcane i'm aware I just mean if anyone would think that this game would indeed be a good game with normal good controls
cole train hey isaac
cole train hi isaac
Yeah, since the game relies so much on player gestures, the first thing the developers should have asked themselves is, "can the Kinect handle this?" before they wrote a single line of code. If the answer is "no" they should have developed for a different platform or interface.
7:08 - 8:03 my favorite part. You can just feel his sheer rage
This, makes me sad. So many good concepts, just...Destroyed by bad controls. I mean hell, especailly with the crew. If I had the money, i wouldnt be opposed to getting this game, a 360 and connect to at least...Try to fight with it to make it work. Just for the crew interactions. That's...depressing. Such a good concept gone. We never see anything like this anymore, and if only it was done better. It may have been at least...Seen more.
This game sounds like it would be great if they never used the Kinect.
Ummmm, what is it you're up there doing in the top left-hand (or should I say right-hand ;)) corner starting at 14:33, huh Joe? Lol
lol
getting frustrated with the controller
***** Lol, yes, I'm aware, it just so happened to VERY much look like something else, so I was just making a joke...
LOOOOOOL! Nice catch Kristen. Looks like he is tuging the salamy :).
D1RTY MART1N1 Dude, it's a joke. Chill out troll...
Angry Joe the most brutally honest UA-cam person ever
Remaking this in VR would be a masterpiece
XD LOLOLOLOLL
''GIVE US THE SIGNAL WHEN YOU SEE THEM''
JOE: '' WTF IS THE SIGNAL?''
7:10
We NEED a Steel Battalion game for VR. It'd work perfectly
Well you’re not wrong there. At this point, you’re better off playing that game in VR than anything else.
I’ve always loved VR, it makes you feel like you’re literally in the game, especially when you get the necessary VR accessories like index controllers, haptic suit, you name it!
If they had released this for PC I would go out to the shop, pick up the box and throw all my money on the counter.
Sounds so easy, Capcom does re-releases of games, why not this game on Steam with some extras.
Yeah. Instead of Kinect you can use the mouse to control the buttons and stuff.
fooeytheduck
and hopefully longer missions too
Lord Zephyros And hopefully it wouldn't be completely f**king broken.
Or even better, partner up with the boys that made the Hawken controller, so you can actually have a wonderful experience!
Steel Battalion Classic with occulas rift....I think my mind exploded!
I really wish they'd make this for PC. I mean, control the hand with the mouse, the mech with the WASD or arrow keys, etc. It had so much promise.
Or maybe just bind stuff to the keys, since the keyboard has a ton o keys...
"but it becomes hard to do anything with 30 bind buttons :C"
IT*S A STEEL BATALION; DEAL WITH IT OR GO HOME
also just slap red tape or glue paper markings with writing or symbols to differentiate the keys and shortcuts.
That is how i play Steel batalion's xbox verion with my PC :D
Warhamer116 I've expanded on my idea a little too. I'd stick with the WASD keys to move the mech, of course, but I'm also thinking maybe you could use the Q and E keys to look left and right within your cabin, scroll up and down to lean forwards to and away from the glass window and to use your periscope, etc. Also, if anyone has a suggestion, I'm thinking of setting up a proper petition for PC port or an entirely new game for the PC, so feel free to add them to my comment thing.
As a Steel Battalion: Line of Contact veteran VT pilot, I really enjoyed this video. The day they shut down the LOC servers was a sad day. It was such a good community and such a great game. I remember how excited I was when a new Steel Battalion was announced...then it turned out this was it. Hopes brought up and torn down immediately.
Steel Battalion was totally worth the $150 buy in cost. No other game is immersive. No other game feels so realistic. I pity anyone who never had a chance to play it.
Thanks again for the video. Got me feeling nostalgic and angry at the same time.
"Play a real Mech game, like the upcoming MechWarrior Online, or Hawken!"
Yeaaahh, about thaaat.....
now there is VR they can definitely make this game better
Mechanics wise this would make for a great mech or even a tank game what with the progressive damage and crewmate interaction...too bad this got saddled with the kinect
"Steel Battalion: Get Your Fucking Hands Off That." LMAO
With the whole ps4 touchpad and PC's having a large number of keys this game or subsequent sequels could be really amazing. The potential is there: The crew member dying mechanic, the epic battles etc. It's a good game on a crappy console and next gen could really make it look and play amazing.
The crew mechanic reminds me of Xcom. You will be missed my soldiers. ):
R.I.P in peace
Rest in peace in peace?
It's a streamer thing at the the moment. You pronounce R.I.P as rip and say in peace afterwards.
Kinect 2.0 didn´t improve much, just more limb tracking and slightly shorter latency, still useless
Yeah. They should have dropped the Kinect and just let us play with our controllers.
Funny thing... my good old Eyetoy for the PS2 still works, and games for it works as well, some of them are even fun!
Developers should know the limits of the kinect or whatever they develop for. Kinect was clearly not designer for such games.
You made your point. At least it functions better than the Xbox Diskinect.
Blazikenpwnsyou Diskinect, good one.
Let it be known across the land that Angry Joe could tell the future and saw what xbox was to do with the connect in their new console. Hence forth AJ should be our profit, the holy one, whose wisdom all who program must seek out.
Amen
*prophet
Such wasted potential!
Respect to the devs for sincerely trying.
Man, this game has been lambasted Capcom, From Software and Steel Battalion franchise by only one peripheral
Not gonna lie. I laughed really hard at the suicide clip he put up. I may be a morbid bastard but the way he jumped out of the building was hilarious.
Maybe this game could get a rerelease on other platforms and control better than here
From what it looks like the game would even work better on a 3DS.
*****
Actually, Nintendo finally got the motion control to work, after 5 years of experimenting.
You know if they had used only the controller instead of the kinect it wouldnt have the 40 buttons like the original but im sure it would at least be playable
RattKanVids
They could have made an additional controller with 40 buttons that plugs into the secound port. Something like that should not cost more than 10€
Schwarzer Ritter Yeah an attachment like the chatpad would work
this was ahead of its time imagine it with VR
Yes it would be better in vr
Subscriber from the future here. Lol imagine what kinda stuff those "gaming journalists / critics" would come up with with this kinda story background setting in 2019 haha!
The one reason I miss the Kinect? No more savage Angry Joe reviews.
I will admit, when the chick died from the Kinect letting her not get helped, I was at a loss of words.
War... War never changes.
But in seriousness I knew that Kinect would fail when I saw previews of it at my step uncle's office who works at Microsoft because of no point of origin like the Wii had. If this was rebooted for PC, I would have gotten into it. Aw well I guess I'll have to watch a game movie of this some time.
Just a reminder to anyone watching this that this developer also made Dark Souls and Armored Core
Thankfully it's not Miyazaki.
9:45. Know I am years late but is there any game where you are soldiers fighting mechs on foot like this?
It's a shame really....
This game would've been so much better if it was on PC or Wii U in my opinion.
basically anything but the kinect
this should've been a VR game for the HTC Vive
Better controls, better immersion, better pretty much everything
This game should be on PC in the first place, that would make it a lot more epic, or have Kinect do what it's supposed to do.
That's actually a good I idea.
Yea! With the increased amount of buttons and the better graphics capabilities of most $500+ PCs this game would look even better and would have MUCH better controls then the kinect will ever be able to offer (within most of our life times).
this game would have been a beast whit oculus and keyboard controls
thesuperpierre59 Hell yea!
I think it would have been interesting if they had the massive Steel Battalion controller, but when something happens in your cockpit, and you have to do something your character wouldn't be able to do with their buttons or levers or basically anything that isn't attached to the mech, you have to go for your normal controller to do it.
Am I the only one who noticed the Winter Soldier playing the Original Steel Battalion?
Someone should optimize this game for the old Steel Battalion Keyboard or just a normal one somehow.
Its too bad a good game is left unplayable due to some shitty software that's even had itself cancelled.
Twice
Ah yes, remember the Kinetic everyone? Remember how much of a awesome piece of tech it was? No? Yeah me too.
this video is 3 years ago and theres still a lot of activity? wow joe is a legend!
"play a real mech game" he says, yet no mention of armored core?
Thats cause, he is a fan of From's other mech game "Chromehounds"
This needs to be done in VR
this game had so much potential, why did they fuck it up?????
Haven't you seen Capcom's reputation as of recently? It is rumored that not even talent can shine in the Black Hole known as Capcom when money is involved.
Isaac Argesmith Actually most of their original talent (Keiji Inafune, Creator of Megaman, Clover Studios a.k.a. Platinum games, and others) have left for developer vs. Publisher disputes, constant sequals and releases, and other issues. And most of their flagship games are being outsourced by questionably sub-par developers like DmC for Ninja Theory, Lost Planet 3 for Spark Unlimited, and maybe others. If their new talent can get Capcom back on its feet, and its declined fanbase returns, then Capcom can survive another year or two.
At 6:30 you ask why their is a short time to complete the missions, well have you played the missions with system linked or xbox live?
I. Want. To. Use. That. Huge. Badass. Retro. Controller!
I have 3 HOTAS(Saitek X52, X55, TM Warthog) and two rudder pedal sets. Fuck the Xbox controller scheme bullshit.
Elessar Zure dude... pc master race.
Elessar Zure I only have the Saitek X52 :l
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Holy shit! so many great elements.. man.. what a shame.
2:10 Requires a fuck ton of patience, never noticed that lol
0:26 when your group members in a school project screw up a poster that you have to present in front of the class
anyone else think that this premise could work better in VR with better motion controls?
Requires a fuck ton of patience!
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You know I never knew why Microsoft thought that the Kinect was an good idea
with VR systems nowadays. I'd like to see this series to have a comeback.
A perfect example of an awesome concept executed poorly.
Someone should make a petition to get this game on pc and iron out kinect and it other problems in its entirety. This game could have been good and a mouse would be so much easier to control than the bs that is kinect.
The reason why kinect failed: no porn games and no coop with pornhub
what was that movie at 6:39 ?
"I'm done. I'm done with your shiiiiiit." Xdddd. Laughed so hard.
Even sony's ps2 eye toy was better functional than the kinect my god
Hey. Joe. Remember the PlayStation eye on ps2. Kinect is actualy worse than that
I barely remember that.
Blake Evans Shit I barely remember that thing..
hahahaha that damn eye toy actually worked better, i played on one not long ago and had functional fun haha
Haven't heard of that goddamn thing in years.
3 years late but... no the Playstation eye did not work better, it did work differently on a technical level, the kinect, as flawed as it is, differentiated movement and TRIES to track your body, the Eye toy just tracked general movement, regardless of what it was, l
I really wish the developers to remake this game now for VR this could actually work