Defendant's WIFE testifies Against Him In Apple River Self-Defense Trial - Spousal Privilege?
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How it should of went:
“What are u looking for??
“My friends mobile phone”
“Can we help? Maybe together we can find it”.
I kept thinking this.. alcohol and fragile egos can be lethal
So right… in a nice world. U shd watch Todd Grandes assessment. He does a psychological assessment on it and it was interesting. I’m obsessed with this case. If I were a juror it wd be NOT guilty across the board. Just r not the right charges given the shared blame
LOL right. Nic didn't say a damn word the whole time to explain that he was looking for a phone or to ask for help. Such a weird interaction that ended tragically for both parties.
Or...say "the fucking phone is lost, get in your tube and move on"!
@@tawkinright3961 LOL right? The fact all of this was over a lost phone floating down the river is insane.
so… for 15-20 min directly after the incident, while von williams is leading first responders in, and for the 20-30 min it took the miu group to then float down to exit, nobody said a single word????? that is actually THE most unbelievable thing i’ve heard thus far in this…
His wife was on her husband's side. She said nothing. Literally nothing. I think she is just as sick as he is. She looks absolutely miserable btw like she wanted to be anywhere but there.
It's destroyed their lives.
Its called shock
I was surprised they left, or did I misunderstand? Kids are stabbed, he is afraid, and they go tubbing down the river like nothing happened?
@@cjcap9918That’s what she said. I couldn’t believe what she was saying!
My husband has a pocket knife he uses whenever we camp, tube, hunt, and hiking. It's his tool, but he is also aware it's a self defense option. Most men I know have various pocket knives they use as a tool.
A pocket knife while snorkeling in a river?
That has nothing to do with the fact of why he "chose" to go back to the group - and yes that does make him the aggressor.
@@honkytonk4465 how do you work with the twine holding the tubes together without one?
@@honkytonk4465yes! My husband has one on him at all times. It’s easy to get tangled in floating twine and such in water. He has helped others before, too, and every time people say “I’ll bring one next time”.
I carry one too, outside on my farm and in my Jacket, to open things.
They just got a divorce to protect the assets. She still is testifying for him
You're right in this guy should really do his homework maybe
Smart move.
My thoughts exactly
If he's found guilty, can the stabbed victims go after monetary for being stabbed- pain/suffering/ PTSD,?
They didn't just get a divorce, they have been divorced but are still friends and socialize with each other
The teenagers there learned a valuable lesson. When you mess with someone you don't know what they got or how they might react. A clear case of F'ing around and Finding out.
100……
@@rubypriceallen9584 The drunk teen wouldn't be dead and his friends wouldn't have been stabbed had they not called the guy a pedo and ramped up escalation. I doubt none of this would have happened if they hadn't been drunk and smoking weed. There are MANY parts of the US where if you call a man a pedo you'll end up dead let alone put hands on him IN A DRUNKEN MOB. Like I said. F around and FIND OUT. With that being said I bet he's found guilty because of the emotional factor of a dead teen.
@@rubypriceallen9584 He was being threatened by a group and was legally WELL within his rights to defend himself after being attacked. You can be emotional but the question in this trial is if his response was appropriate given the situation. Bottom line is this: The kid would still be alive today and no one would have been stabbed had these drunken idiots not harassed and attacked this guy.
wouldn't ? drunken teen vs. drunken older man with a weapon? almost all were drunk. NM looked beyond " Happy Buzzed" drunk he appeared surly and confrontational angry drunk. And I'm curious...and history of DV between NM and wife? Divorcing to protect assets not due to problems in marriage? Alot of questions not answered. Possibly NM group knew he was drunk and aggressive and did not want to find them selves involved in his drama.
My dad always had a pocket knife in his pocket. He was the ultimate handy man and used that knife for so many things even opening gifts. It’s not unusual for men to carry a pocket knife
My dad and husband both always had a pocket knife. It was used for opening gifts as well. I still have my husband’s pocket knife and a small pearl handled knife he gave me to carry in my purse.
My dad too
Knives big enough to disembowel a man?
@@SC-ls3ivthe knife was not that big it was a pocket knife. Also its not that hard to slash someone's stomach when they are so skinny.
I carry a pocket knife.
Peter, thx for bringing us this case. You NEVER waste our time. Why nobody there had enough emotional intelligence to de-escalate way before the knife was involved is beyond me.
Teenagers are not known for emotional intelligence particularly in a pack.
Alcohol. That one word is the root cause of this entire thing. I went to the same river 10+ times as a young adult. Everyone is lying about how much alcohol was consumed. The river is known as the place to go get wasted and party. Its not a family friendly place. Even the adults get outta hand. I've witnessed some horrendous beatings on the river or in the campgrounds. Never any stabbings but group attacks on multiple occasions. Men groping women or just being way to pushy toward them. I would never knowingly let my children go there.
@@mwww2589I agree, alcohol was definitely a part of it, I’d also like to point out the root cause being the gaslighting by the teens
Gaslighting and emotional intelligence in one comment thread. Allow me to add narcissism to complete the 2024 banger.
They told him to LEAVE LEAVE LEAVE over and over again. Why is that so difficult for anyone to hear and comprehend? I guess that is why he stayed there too, he just did not understand the word "LEAVE" or Get the fark out of here. Again, maybe he wanted to show these, what he considered "Punks" who the real man was because, I do believe he understood the AMERICAN version of the word, "LEAVE"!
I re-watched this episode again today. When I was a kid the Apple River was much more of a family-type event. We went tubing with Parents, Aunts and Uncles, and Cousins. When I was in College it was turning into more of a young Adult with some light drinking no drugs. Now, I have not been there in 30 years, but it seems much more that it is a hard party place and not safe to just interact with strangers.
Groups of drunk teens....that's who you need to avoid.
We tube the Wisconsin River every year for my birthday (and have also tubed many other rivers in WI)... This is all wild to me. Normally the other people you run into on the river are fun and friendly, people offer each other beers and shots, bat a volleyball between groups of tubers, shoot the sh!t, etc.
I also love learning more about the specific laws in my state. Thanks for covering this one, Peter!
I live in Wisc as well and like you, enjoy tubing at different rivers. Never had any issue with anyone-- people are happy, friendly, and usually interract with other tubers, like you said. But there is always lots and lots of drinking. So it wouldn't take much for things to escalate. The situation is sad all around.
@@littledeebee Yes! Tons of drinking going on!
Also Wisconsin resident and I'm shocked too. Usually everyone is in high spirits on a tubing day.
@@littledeebee Google "wolf river shooting." Crazy.
I went to Iowa State University and groups of us would go up there and have a blast. Pretty well known in Iowa as well.
Those "Kids" should be spending years in prison, along with the prosecutors.
I think it's funny how young ADULTS are referred to as kids. They are adults and society should expect them to act like adults and show respect to their fellow man.
At 17 years old, you sre still considered a CHILD/kid under the law.
@@laurasmith14 At 17 years old, you are pretty much charged as an adult for serious crimes in any state. It’s also funny that you refer to them as kids but aren’t they doing adult activities, when is a kid allowed to drink alcohol, did they buy those beers as kids? You refer to them as kids when it benefits your narrative. You lack critical thinking.
@@atang810 uhhh, legally they are considered kids. No critical thinking necessary.
@@maryleachmanbeautyconsultantAnd Miu was obviously raised to be a murderous psychopath.
@@laurasmith14 but he was drunk...
Thank you Peter for covering this case. With all my other cases, work ,etc... I don't have enough to watch the trial. Thanks for breaking it down. I hope you and everyone watching has a blessed day/night.
Interesting trial. Sad on so many levels. I feel that there were a lot of bad choices made that contributed to this horrid event!!
Grimacing and waving is a sign for help in the water in many places including Australia.
True…. Gaslighting gone wrong
@@dixiewade8373The young men (and young women) definitely sounded (in video) like they were verbally harassing Nickolai, laughing at him and physically shoving him into the water, and FALSELY ACCUSING him of being a child m*lestr! Their jeers did NOT sound like they were in distress, the older man was!! He was defending himself from 10 + people surrounding him!
@@culturalobserver8721 horseshit. They were verbally harrassing him because he was harassing them. And verbal harassment does not justify punching someone which is was the guy did, and then that resulted in the kids pushing him. Then he took that pushing to justify him murdering one kid and stabbing and seriously injuring two other people, that's murder and assault and that's why he's headed to a cell.
@@kennyjames4679You are completely wrong!! Several drunk young men surrounded him, then more young adults came to join in on the bullying of this middle age man! Eventually he had to defend himself!! The young adults are at fault in harassing him and shoving him in the water, and I believe the middle age guy is NOT guilty without a reasonable doubt! I believe he is innocent based on all that video footage.
As a former Wisconsin resident….two beers is never the case. Always the “safe” answer.
It isn’t just Wisconsin. Usually when someone is pulled over for DUI, they have had “2 drinks”.
Go to Wisconsin, it’s the drunkest state in the union. The drinking culture and power of the Tavern League is dumbfounding
@@GovernorBanes touché. ☺️ It is cold. People need to stay warm. Meanwhile I am in Florida. Folks are hot, on meth and get nekked. 🤣
Right? My very first thought was "okay well thats what every DUI person says ever. Jury knows she is lying"
the *balls* lol
“Two drinks” is just a common mispronunciation of “shitfaced”
I had never heard of this case, but would love if you kept covering it!! It’s a nice change of pace from all of the same cases being covered on UA-cam right now!
I’ve been following this trial and happened to find your podcast. Your delivery style is clean and quick. I like how you breakdown the videos. Straight to the point. Subscribed and look forward to seeing more content from you.
I sincerely appreciate you explaining these cases. Sometimes they are just so hard for me to follow with all the back and forth between lawyers questions and being drug out. This recap helps tremendously!
All I know as an older person, much older than the defendant, is that group of so called kids were scaring me in the video. At one point surrounding him. Yelling at top of their lungs.
Yes, but where is their crime?
well then why did he walk over to them and fuck with their tubes and stand in the middle of the tubes?
is that what you would do being terrified?
People who are afraid don't walk into a group of people who are verbally harassing them and physically instigate a fight. This dude did it because he knew he had a weapon. He walked over to them, the the first punch, and got jumped for it. The kids were being jerks, we don't stab folks for that.
Then you have blinders on.
Yeah, that was what I have been saying as well. I felt threatened just watching
Thank you Peter! You make everything so much easier to understand and enjoyable! ❤
Great points you’ve made. Fascinating case you have to keep covering this one
Ok here is something to ponder for you: IF she was so concerned after she sees her husband get knocked down in the water--WHY does she look away from the scene? She said she didn't see "all of it" and only noticed when he was walking back to the group. So she see's her husband who is not in the best of shape get knocked down and surrounded by 11 or 13 people. He's on his hands and knees in the water, sends two guys in her group to go check on him and then testified she didn't see anything else. UHhhhhhh.....flippantly, "Oh hell...Nic got knocked down, Ernesto and Ariel can you go check on him......oh wow, look at how nice the river is........Oh he's fine, he's walking back....did you see that eagle up there Rosie?" (YES that IS Sarcasm). But it IS a question....why wasn't she watching the whole thing?
Because she is lying
@@yukkei2530 Of course she is...this is why spousal privilege exists. She's gonna lie. They got divorced to protect any assets from the wrongful death civil cases that I'm sure are gonna be swinging their way too.
@@yukkei2530 Yes, she was lying down on the tube and couldn't get up. She said that numerous times.
@@neroliW Yet she managed to get out of her raft for her "spousal" chat, read confession, from Nick on the sand dune. He's a liar and so is she.
I just don’t think she sees any benefit to trying to add to what’s already on the video since she was a couple hundred feet away and maybe she didn’t see him get it but we all saw him get hit on the video and at that point if everything just started there he’s totally justified it’s just when you factor in what happened before it gets murky. He may very well have drowned if he didn’t have the pocket knife
Hello Mr. Tragos and chat. The audio adjustment was a good idea and effective. I like the way you conducted this stream. Thank you, you always explain things from more than one possibility, that is very helpful.
Wow I love this defense attorney! He’s good.
Yep and wen the state is doin the job they are helps the defense.
It's clear you've never been in a trial because along with a great defense attorney duo, the prosecution is doing an excellent job. The judge, too, runs a tight and professional ship. I've been a court reporter for 45 years and have been in hundreds of trials. I know what I'm talking about.
Well I think I can have an opinion on how good the defense attorneys are Ms. @Denised.9500
I thought this felt similar to the Kyle Rittenhouse trial and I just found out this attorney was Kyles attorney when he was acquitted.
@@denised.9500 "I'm a physician"
I rarely comment on vids, but blown away by your knowledge and perspective. Good job!
Would love for continued coverage of this trial. Thank you for your insight.
Great work Peter. You cut at the right moments and give plenty of warning for those who really cannot handle the aftermath. It is good for us to see it however, just to remember you never know who you are dealing with so just keep to yourselves.
Why would ppl need a warning, imo it’s good for ppl to see what can happen
Thank you! Been watching this whole trial alone and great to hear your legal knowledge and opinions. 😊
You are great!! Love the way you explain the possibilities of inference as the testimony progresses. Your professional background is such a good tool for making your blog/program so interesting👍🏻 Thanks for what you do!!😻
the Miu divorce was a smart move because in a civil lawsuit little proof is needed to win a wrongful death or injury claim
Gee that’s what I just posted
are you talking about this court case or a future one? because he's on trial for 1st degree murder - which was a really bad choice.... as 1st degree is premeditated.
Very smart move
@@GorgieClarissahe’s on trial for 1st degree homicide, which does not have to be premeditated.
Well then man put asunder. That means he is a Demon
The "teens" instigated this whole ordeal. Specifically the black teen video taping.
He hated those white boys
He used and manipulated those drunken white boys because he has a lot of subconscious hate for them.
Peter you are doing a fantastic job so happy for you and definitely one of my favorites thank you ❤
Great coverage Peter. Definitely want more. Your so good the sound was awesome. Love ❤️ and hugs 🫂
I have been engrossed in this case and have been surprised no other UA-cam channel has mentioned it. Thanks to you for spreading the word on this useless killing
There are numerous UA-cam channels covering the trial one is a MN News Station
I only started watching the trial days ago because of the crazy number of channels covering it. Sooooooooo many channels have been covering this.
Useless? They ganged up on this man. Bullies are useless in society.
@@SayHelloToOblivion I'm semi new to this case but didnt he punch a female before the males got physical? If not can you direct me to where I'll find what happened before he punched the female in the black swimsuit?
If useless you mean self defense because the younger people had no business attacking an old man
When did he call for help? I never heard him say a thing that entire video.
I 'think' he's call for help is referring to physically waving at his group for help on video, not verbally . Lost in translation coming from different country/ language
@@marcie3032waving palm towards a group and smiling is NOT a call for help. 😂
@@marcie3032😂
He was afraid and 2 x he waved to the boat where his ppl were and they cdnt see or didn’t see until it was too late
Taunted but U don’t murder because of that- going back to young ones means he was ready to continue commotion between them
I love how you are covering this case Peter…with your signature sensitivity and balance. Thanking you hugely!🙏😊
Peter...You have me Needing to watch this trial.. I may have to play catchup!! Thanks so much ❤
I think the main hang up for the jury will be the fact that the defendant did not verbalize anything on the scene. He was completely silent ( no yelling stop, get away…) not even initial normal interactions.
He doesn’t speak English at least not well enough to know what to say in this situation
Basically, being non-verbal gives those with the "gift-of-gab;" powers to torment, vilify, obstuct, harass, incite a mob.>>
A bird's eye view, of what young children go through in school.
He was in the stabby mood only.
@@GreenLightMeHe's been living in the USA since he was 15 and Romanian is not a popular language. I'm sure he knows english better than he lets on
Yellow shorts hands weren’t on his neck or around it. Left hand on right of chest near shoulder and his right hand was lower, then he pushed him back.
At this point Sondra noticed NOTHING!
*Was she actually there? Because her mind was definitively NOT.*
As a juror I wouldn’t trust her at ALL.
The event took place up the river from them. Plus she wears hearing aids and didn’t have them in when in the water. So it does check.
Me either. How in the hell does no one help when he called? How do they keep floating without trying to help.
Lawyer you know! Missed you since Depp trial. Always
love your insights
& commentary!
Thanks for covering this and making sure we catch all the important parts..no one is streaming this trial ❤❤
I'm pretty sure Cour tv is streaming the trial.
Please keep covering this. It's fascinating
Sick of hearing kids THEY'RE ALL YOUNG ADULTS
Thanks for covering this case Peter ❤
Thanks for continuing this story.
Ohhh!!! I’m so glad you made another video about this - I was drawn in yesterday with the first video
Just finding out about this case… but just from seeing the video… they sought out an altercation, they surrounded and assaulted him. Murder is a WILD charge.
This is a really sad situation.
Indeed 😔
He started the altercation.
Muder is What he did. But it'll be manslaughter. I hope miu has a medical experience in jail
@@peoplelikefrank They*
@@notsure188he*
Thanks for covering!
Great coverage. Thank you. Being from the area, and tubing on the river before, this case is interesting. This could happen at any day during the summer on that river.
He should get a tattoo next to his scar that says “Find Out”
found out
congratulations! I'm following this case here in Brazil, and in addition to being Brazilian, I'm a lawyer. The laws here are absurd, and I love seeing trials in your country! but this case... killing is absurd but I can't blame the defendant. If I were on jury I would vote for self defense!
Thankfully you're not. Definitely wouldn't hire you as a lawyer. Lmao
Have you watched the video self defence is a huge stretch and he lied a 100 times
On the rewatch crew since yesterday was my birthday 🎂🎉 thanks for the legal chitty chat ❤
Rewatch crew! I’m glad you are covering this, I had no idea about it. I am torn, not sure at this point which side I am leaning towards…
You’re killing it, LYK. Much appreciate the content and breakdown. This is a wild case. You make it way easier to analyze. Voluntary manslaughter is my guess for the final judgment
Stood on his business not guilty is my judgement
@@pavevbogovev4045 WOW!!! Special kind of
Manslaughter is not an option for the jury
I live in a college town and it is difficult to take your family out to do something like this because of the groups of drunk scholars who like bullying and wreaking everything for everyone else.
That’s a terrible excuse- it’s “their” fault we can’t enjoy ourselves. You teach others how you want to be treated. If you skulk around or act like you’re in fear or irritated in your environment, people sense that. Walk around with confidence, positive attitude and calm demeanor is what should be done. Take some self defense classes too, it can help.
@@courtneyderouenyea ok you can come down to the Appomattox see how that works out for you.
But… you don’t stab 4-5 people! That’s the difference.
Annoyance doesn’t give you the right to murder someone
@@dd4850it escalated quickly from mere annoyance…as soon as he was pushed, that’s where the questions start…was he actually in fear for his life? I’d say being pushed and slapped doesn’t warrant that kind of action. I’ve been pushed, and slapped, and I’ve never stabbed anyone. You’re looking at a grown man child here, I believe his ego was the reason for the stabbing…he had the chance to walk away a few different times.
So glad you’re following this case.
Thank you from Your Michigan Replay Crew
Let's assume it was all self-defense...... why did he remain quiet about it afterwards? He saw law enforcement and walked right past them, tried to leave and was caught, and then put up an act like "What happened i heard someone got stabbed by someone who looked like me". Like come on, why the lies and sneakiness. He didn't even tell his group memebrs that he had stabbed people. Why throw the knife away, why hide evidence?
NM also lied when he told police that the young guys had knives and he took one away from one of them and used it in the stabbing.
Right, he should have stayed called police himself. He didn't intend to kill anyone that day. But he felt he needed to be the big adult and set these kids straight. He was to arrogant to just walk away.
What someone does after the fact has zero effect on whether it was self defense or not.
@@jonnysalami692not true… literally your opinion is not fact
If you hurt someone in self-defense, in your own interest you should immediately contact LE. If I was assaulted and felt so threatened that I needed to stab not one, but 5? people, I would also want to press charges. If a driver hits someone with their car, and it was an accident, they can’t just leave the scene. It makes no sense. I also think he could have threatened and brandished the knife without actually stabbing anyone. He was with a big group. He would have stayed with his group when he went back the first time, or brought some of his friends with him when he went back if he was worried about being threatened.
Wait. Against him? Sounded like she was defending him
Thank you Peter
I hadn't heard much about this case, thanks for covering it Peter! Can you put a synopsis of the cases in your descriptions under the stream?
Stay with this one counselor. Also, note the prosecutor is unprepared and a bit disorganized…
So true the DA is wack
Good evening Peter and all you lovely people
Thanks for covering! Very interesting case indeed.
Please continue coverage. Love to hear your comments
Those kids terrified me
Yeah, I have health problems @ 55 and I would have been extremely afraid that it would escalate fast and they would end up drowning me.
Oh please, kids mocking is NOT a reason to fear for your life. If you hit someone (a girl even), expect retaliation. This guy was looking for trouble from the start, when he was sarcastic and rude.
@@A_Wolf Yeah Miu is screwed. Tough to claim self defense when you leave the scene, dispose of the murder weapon, and lie to the cops.
It certainly doesn't help him that he starting the situation by running up to their tubes and grabbing them. (the tubes) stopping their trip down the river. They would've just floated right past them. I live in this area and have gone down that river since the mid 70's. It used to be much bigger with thousands of people going down during the weekends in the summer. Huge groups of people (mostly drunk) just having a good time. I am still not sure which way I am leaning yet, but either way I don't think it is 100% clear cut one way or the other.
@@A_Wolfwhere’s the evidence that he hit the girl that got in his face yelling and PLACED HER HANDS ON HIM FIRST.
When is it ever right to bully and talk down a person asking for help then hitting him and pushing him into the water, then hitting him in the face? When is it ever right??
You clearly didnt watch ANY of the video evidence
So did you ingest crack rock today before or after not watching the video?
@@joeselsbury543…isn’t that the truth!! Some people make me sick when they don’t know what they are talking about and 29 likes who think like him!
@@dianehansma1725I'm convinced trolls have a club and get each other to like their ridiculous comments... But then I ponder, thinking they have friends is crazy. It makes more sense they just create dozens of profiles.
It's not!!!
Thank you enjoyed hearing your opinions!
Thanks for breaking it down as always
Why is it always just 2 beers? 2 =6 or 7?
Especially tubing
Hahah especially looking at his face when he went up to them. He is def buzzed.
@@bubbagasm1 LE testified he was not. The Sheriff himself and a deputy. The kids all were 0.27 BAC (totally wasted). Facts matter.
LOL I thought the same thing. Nobody has just 2 beers tubing.
On youtube they are sloppy drunk ---it's always 2 beers.
If the only info I had was what was presented today and I had to decide I'd go with self defense. At least for the guy with the scar. The video is what did it for me. Forcing someone underwater is enough to make anyone believe they are going to be killed. That is scary.
You are so right. You panic. Doesn’t matter if it’s shallow water. Once you get pushed down and someone tries to hold you down as AJ admitted he was trying to do, all you can think is you’re gonna drown, lifeguard training tells you not to mess with someone panicking.
I agree
Thankfully this is not it.
Watch the video!
Another great show! Thanks!
So glad your explaining because Its been hard to understand what the prosecutor is laying down .
Thank you for gifted membership, you sweet person!!!
Today was day 3 of a two week trial. Prosecution has a possible 50 witnesses and I think we have seen about 17 so far. Went to Apple River many times when I was a young adult and EVERY knows about the sa, drinking and drug use on the river. It is not a family friendly river for tubing. If you want peaceful and safe you go to the Cannon or Zumbrota Rivers on the Minnesota side. Not sure on the Wisconsin side. I really appreciate your take on things so far. During stabbing you see that he actually has friends there on the river standing next to them.
Thank you! I was wondering how long the trial planned to be.
Thank you for updating on this the channels I normally trust aren't covering this and it is great to get your feedback 👍☺
replay crew . ty peter for your insight once again
kids bullying an older man - how disgusting... my decision as a juror would be clear.
You are evil.
good thing you're not a juror then
The kids that were laying in their tube's the entire time until he leaves, comes back, another group comes to help, and then they get up. At any point in time Nik could have just walked away. He was not chased or followed the first time he walked back to his group. I've watched every video and testimony. This guy made some absolutely terrible decisions and should be locked up forever.
I find her to be a very credible Witness, she's answering honestly for the defense and for prosecutor.
He did fear for his life, and if I was a juror I would vote not guilty on all counts. Let's say he did slap the girl that was in his face, the mob could have called the police not engaged in Street Justice.
Thanks Peter
It's weird that on the river in recordings he never says a word. And that none of his group moved
Thank you for the update. This trial is so upsetting. I pray the jury finds in favor of the defendant.
and all of those who participated in attacking him, should be charged with assault and harassment
I agree 100%. A totally avoidable tragedy.
I totally disagree even one of his tubing friends warned him he looked like a pervert if he went around drunk teens with his snorkel. He ignored all common sense. He hit first.
@@katymelerealestate1049 I agree. The GROWN man twice the age of the drunk kids walks away and we never hear about this. YOU'RE RIGHT.
The drunk weirdo should have walked away period the end
Peter if you get a chance while covering this case, can you talk about the defense exhibit 104. It’s a graphic of people placement but the scale and size seems an issue of accuracy that benefits the defense
Yes, keep covering select portions of this trial
I don’t understand why he didn’t just tell the kids he was looking for a lost phone
he didnt have a chance, they would never have heard him ,they were screaming obscenities at him..
He tried. He said I’m looking for a girls phone. They switched it to say, he is looking for little girls. He started out looking for a phone but the teens appear to knock the snorkel off n then you see him looking for it. Moving the tubes n looking down for it. They are all yelling at him then women screaming n cursing at him, in his face, hands on him. I think he raised his hand to remove the woman’s hands from him n she thought it was a hit. She was drunk n most were doing drugs too. Anyway she walks away to say she was hit. A woman has no right to get in a strangers, yelling n cursing at him n expect nothing to happen. If he was moving his hand up n hit her I don’t think he intended to hit her. You can see his face in slow motion. He doesn’t seem to be a bad man. Helping a friend look for a phone, handy man, helping others. Compare to a bunch of drunk 17-24 yr olds. Hmmm
@@sherrydmyterko-tramp8654exactly. They just heard the girls part and got all hyped up. Two of the “kids” were football players. Those other girls that came up and got in his face didn’t help matters. Mob mentality.
These kids know he said girls phone... the kids are very obviously trashed and antagonist. Not a crime... but the man was on his knees, thrn hands around his neck? 1 pocket knife vs how many football players? 220 lbs? drunk or on drugs aggressive kids. 1990, Hollywood FL a group of teens beat a man, who had a bat, to death right in front of a Burger King in their prom clothes. (They got off, save 1 that turned state witness, 1 kid's Dad got him a tag for his car that said "above the law") horrifying. 😳 I think he left because he didn't realize how badly the kid was hurt.
@@sherrydmyterko-tramp8654 how did they knock it off when he put it in his mouth to lunge at their tubes?
Don’t know if you will see this but I was always taught that you walk away from the situation. The defendant had plenty of time to walk away BEFORE the situation escalated. I was taught You don’t physically attack with lethal force because someone is taunting you.
My ex was not smart enough to walk away. At 65 yesrs old, he would take on a fight because he was a bully as a young man. They don't change. At 65, he would have gotten his butt handed to him, but he thought he could still do what he did at 18.
Walk away when surrounded by 20 people? In a river? Have you walked in a river?
He’d already walked away once and came back so clearly walking away wasn’t an issue
Thanks for covering this. Was watching the Arizona trial yesterday- the case about victim being shot after having entered onto private property near the border. The defendants wife testified yesterday as a witness for the state, and I was confused as to why. On cross examination, the defense attorney was allowed to lead and had more freedom. So it almost made me wonder if the defense had encouraged the defendants wife to be a witness for the state
Id love to hear more of this trial. Its sad any of it happened. Id like to see how it turns out
agree peter procescuter saying kids they were late teens and grown definitely in stature
It may have already been mentioned but this is that amazing defensive attorney from the Rittenhouse case.
Really?
Now the lackeey prosecutor makes sense.😂
good episode, well done...
Thank u for caring about boosting audio. I am so tired of these "expert" youtubers that dont get it
Although horrified at what happened, the more I watched and listened, I think he was legitimately afraid with a bunch of drunk teens surrounding him, accusing him of horrible things and then summoning others to come and join in the crowd, yelling and being threatening. He was separated from his group. Depending on how the jury views things - including the fact you cannot hear him EVER say he was looking for little girls... well... could be not guilty.
He said he was looking for the girl's phone I reckon. Fatty misheard him, being off his face drunk as he's admitted on the stand.
You said it much better than me. I COMPLETELY agree with you. Bunch of "Mean girls" picking on him.
Yeah his wife's a total POS for this. This is probably really bad for his case and I'm sorry for him cuz he's completely innocent.
Stop it. He had plenty of opportunities to WALK AWAY like he was told. You are being a facetious troll.
He was smiling before he pulled out the knife.
Very sad but the reason that the cut is that severe is because he was still attacking the man and pushing him which caused it to be a larger cut.
Sad? It was sad to see the old guy's scar from a QUADRUPLE BYPASS THE YEAR BEFORE!!
53:01 no freakin way self defense involves literally gutting someone. That’s a SLASH. I don’t know that this is first degree but seems like a really good case for second degree.
she's there to relax and chill...not supervise everyone and maintain coordinates..
But I noticed she was monitoring his beers.😂😂😂
Duty To Retreat! Not required in Wisconsin... peter can you discuss if it is usually required, and merits or challenges with it? Personally, I think it's good law to ask citizens to try and retreat a situation to the best they can... sets good example for kids, too. Thoughts?
I read that state has no stand your ground law.
@taramcgavan7654 No he didn't. He was there snorkeling and never left. What are you talking about?
What I've been asking and have no answer thus far is why the group of young guys were calling him a predator or pedophile; why were they taunting, ridiculouing, laughing, and bullying Miu? And why didn't Miu just get as far away from them as possible? From the images I've seen, Miu doesn't say a word to them at all. Does anyone know? Can someone please answer and let me know? I appreciate it. Thanks always to Pete for all his legalese and input! Peter The Great! ❤
Mr. Mia was snorkeling and someone asked him what he was looking for and he said little girls. There was a couple of girls from the group close by.
IMO- they had been drinking and thought it would be funny to taunt the man as for walking away I think he was caught between fight or flight he charged towards them (fight) he moved away and the followed him (flight) they taunted him more he froze IF he hit the girl which I’m still not sure he did (fight) he stabbed after being hit (fight) I personally thing he was overwhelmed and didn’t know what to do and eventually lashed out (I am in no way condoning what he did)
I really think he said I am looking for my googles and they thought he said I am looking for little girls. Then one kid heard that and hollered out predator then another said pedophile. Then the drunk kids were laughing. He walked ver to them really creepy like and never said a word. At that point he should have left. Instead he hit a girl and all hell broke loose. It was creepy how he had his knife out hiding it under his belly. He is guilty of manslaughter at the very least.
No. Evidence said there were no little girls anywhere. He said he was looking for a girl's phone imho. She dropped her phone and he went to look for it in the river with his snorkel.
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They thought he was being creepy. He lunged at the boys legs and wouldn’t leave. So, nobody knows why NM didn’t walk away. That’s the whole reaches on trial for murder imo
Would be great to hear more about this case from your view.
I've been watching channel: FOX 9 Minneapolis-St. Paul - seems to be the best sound for me on my laptop with no added speakers
The defence team is doing a great job of picking holes in the prosecution witnesses
it is on video case closed. Murder and 2 counts of attempted murder. leaving the scene of a crime then hiding the weapon.