LIVE! Real Lawyer Reacts: Read Trial Day 11: Defense Exposes Hidden Connections?
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The best witness so far for the Commonwealth is a drunk person who didn't even give a statement til nine months after she supposedly saw a black blob. The real crime is that this even got to court.
Something the judge didn't let them get into is that the defense already publicly stated that in 8 months, no one has come forward saying they saw the body before Karen discovered it at 6-whatever AM. Then she conveniently talks to Mr Proctor and says she saw a black blob that she now thinks was a body.
The Alberts have a lot of power. They’ve convinced all of the guests at the house on January 28 to lie and concoct stories for them. I wish someone would break.
This is wierd as Julie nagles brother stated him and kr came up to fairview stree at the same time and he let her turn first, Ryan testified he saw kr in her car alone with her dome light on and no body?, I wonder now what his testimony will be when he takes the stand?.
I just love how they all change their stories in front of the jury They make themselves all look like liars liars liars
@@Draconis-hs8bo and whether true or not, how awful for John O’Keefe’s family to hear that.
So, all of these policemen and their families are driving while intoxicated, during a dangerous snowstorm . Wow!
Well they don’t need to worry about a DUI because Uncle Kevin will send a “friendly”
I have been thinking the same thing. Parents trying to be teenagers!!! Please!!
They are the law, so no worries for them
One of them hit and killed someone while drunk, too but got off. 😬
Blatantly corrupt! A law for you !A law for me! Forget the innocent people on the road!
I genuinely hope that we can all agree that it is far worse for an innocent person to go to prison than a guilty person go free…..
I know I can agree. It’s horrid straight up and it happens way too often unfortunately
The Albert clan wouldn’t agree that the sky is blue if asked by the defense (“I don’t remember looking upwards”, “I only remember seeing clouds”, “could be blue, I don’t really know”). Their credibility is shot to hell and they make themselves VERY UNLIKEABLE!
At this is exactly what makes them look guilty. The things they refuse to agree to are so minimal. If it happened the way they said, why would you be so difficult?
I fail to understand the defensiveness. Seeing as they are not on trial, they could have just played it cool and not seemed suspect.
it was “it was the kitchen in the house I lived in in college” ma’am was it your apartment or not! They make all of this that much more difficult and painful for themselves you are not going to get in trouble by answering truthfully
@@valerieg.9242 I’m sorry but if this truly is a small-town gig like I’ve heard it referred to, there is no way in hell you can’t recall if a specific person was on your high school track team with you (i.e. riding the same bus to the same meets, practicing together, possibly running the same events at the same time during those meets, seeing their name on the roster, etc.). She absolutely knew, and there was no reason for her to suggest otherwise.
🤣
This family acts so guilty. Cocky, uncooperative, vague, scheming, can’t remember. So blatantly obstructive!!!
Yeah but their behavior makes a little more sense when you remember they’ve been viciously attacked and harassed for over a year.
Ginger your absolutely right
How about the defense attorney stop saying you would agree with me. And stop beating this dead horse.
@megmeyer7563 omg, don't go there. The DA is just to say "what if anything" even when it doesn't make sense.
@@bmac375 wouldve been helpful if they talked to police and cooperated with the investigation.
I about died when he said, "Of course, Your Honor."😅😅😅
Even she laughed🤣
the best. ✌
i laughed out loud at work!!! lol
same!!! Hopefully someone clips it because it was seriously funny!
The fact she striked it. But doesn’t strike Lallys, “what If anything”. She’s so biased.
The case screams reasonable doubt at this point. This police department should be ashamed of themselves
@Queen Shanine 💯 I’m a moron and I can clearly see the reasonable doubt. Should’ve never been brought to trial
Boston has a very long history of LE corruption
Lol police don't care.. they care about their ego and always being correct. If nothing else police have proven their testimony to be substantially less reliable than a common by stander
Completely agree. It doesn't even feel like a trial at all. I've seen absolutely nothing yet that points to anyone at all specifically causing this death. Just proof that he's in fact dead, it snowed at some point, no one saw it happen, people were drinking, and witnesses at the scene can't agree on what they heard. That's it. Why is this even a trial when there's no real evidence?
Julie Nagel never explained what she saw as a 5 or 6 ft. "blob" until today. She is not telling the truth.
She is full of sh!t
Sus, maybe she was scared to talk about it to the police since they might be involved.
Are you guys all 🥜 6 inches of snow will cover anything laying on the ground.
She didn’t see a blob imo.
@@MyMomo17 there wasnt 6 inches of snow at that time she says she saw the blob. She described an hour or so previously as a "dusting."
This case is a dumpster fire here in MA. The Commonwealth is in cahoots with the two police families in question. We are in week 3, and there has been zero evidence pointing to Karen Read. But, we have seen a whole lot of inconsistencies, I can't remembers, I don't recall statements by THE sketchiest family members ever, combined with a corrupted State Trooper. Evidence was recovered in red solo cups and put in a Stop and Shop grocery bag. Officer John O'Keefe deserves better and deserves justice. FREE KAREN READ!!!!
Yes! The evidence alone of collection of blood, crime scene wide open.
At this point in a trial hasn’t more importance been placed on the victim? I mean we know it was snowing, the Alberts are sus, donuts, red solo cups, and Stop & Shop bags are involved but no coroner to describe the injuries. And I don’t think the defense has to prove anything they just have to poke holes in the CW hypothesis of the crime, which I don’t even think they know.
@@Lori_in_CToh you missed the scratches on the victim consistent with dog attack, victim's missing shoe.
@@keli449 Excuse you! Collection of blood in Solo cups!!! So much more profession...
And what about the judge. I heard she is close to them as well.
He's proved they are all shady liars. That's enough for me.
"she didn't want to get snowed in" is the reason he went to pick her up, but the reason she went there in the first place is that he was going to be out plowing and she didn't want to be snowed in at their apartment alone. it doesn't make sense for him to be driving back and forth.
She made him come back for a reason. She wanted out of there!!!!!!
@@user-ut3ft4qn5fI died when he said she was high maintenance and he didn’t want to deal with it the next day.
She was at her parents'place too
Anyone who lives anywhere with any amount of snow knows this. People who have a lot of snow wouldn’t be bothered to drive back and forth and places with little snow would be even more concerned to drive unexpectedly.
She didn't say that , she went to go out with her Mom . When the snow got bad she wanted to go home.
That Caitlin Albert’s boyfriend was horrible and very rude
I died laughing when he called her high maintenance
That was funny & honest.
I think he was completely pissed about getting drug into this whole mess! Up until last week ha had avoided it all.
The Jersey Shores guy wanta be
He doesn't want to go down with this ship.
*She remembers everything about the black blob… but doesn’t remember anything about beer, where it was, if she brought any or went out for some…. “Because it was two years ago” and hard to remember anything from back then…smh people always find a way to put their feet in their mouth*
Yeah that was weird
I know! I thought the same thing! Hmmm...
She looked like she wanted to disappear once Yanetti started questioning her. The lies are just abound at this point, I don't think any of them would know the truth if it bit them! A tonne of reasonable doubt for me
I just don't understand why, if she actually did see a "black blob", she didn't contact the police after news got out about JO.
That makes me doubt she saw what she said she did (or she's just someone who could care less about another human).
If Mr. Albert sleeps with the phone IN his bed, because he has five kids & emergencies happen, WHY would he not answer the phone when a call comes through at 2 AM??? The early hour would have me grabbing the phone in a panic!
He said he and in wife were in an intimate situation during the 2am call 😏
I would think he'd keep his phone on a charger on his nightstand next to him, that way he'd have a full charge in case his kids tried to call.
I totally agree and wish defense had asked him this!
That thought crossed my mind immediately as well!! Doesn’t make sense….
As a parent of 4, but in ce phone safety ... Fire is a possibility
The judge’s abrupt stops for lunch and end of the day have seemed to land in favor of the prosecution nearly every time. But then, most of her decisions strongly favor the prosecution as well.
She doesn’t like to work hard .
Thankfully she's been the same since the outset of this trial and the pre hearings so I'm hopeful the defence have got the measure of her and it won't sway them too much.
Remember, these cops stopped all investigation by anyone, thus reason why house was not searched, and witness not investigated!
Zactly how it works. Stop investigating. Observer of photo: Hmmm, looks like dog scratches on his arm. Cops: Whaddaya lookin at?
@@freescholar_familytreeI have three very large black GSDs . Those are scratches from a large dog .
I am having a hard time reconciling the last witness stating she saw a 6 foot blob laying on the ground, claiming to put 2 and 2 together the next day, and not saying a word to investigators until right now. Even when the Albert family was getting the accusations and threats from others and she still didnt come forward.
She’s a liar
Obviously protecting her friends family
She was non plussed about it. I would have been feeling so GUILTY thinking that if I hadn’t been such a blob myself, maybe his life would’ve been saved!!!!!!!! She’s an idiot too. The house was full of them that night.
this is the most dysfunctional trial i've ever watched. just flabbergasted!
I guess you haven’t watched the YSL Rico trial 💀🤣 that is peak kangaroo court
The trial isn’t dysfunctional, the investigation was
@@CH-vm6cqthey aren't mutually exclusive. There is plenty dysfunction to go around in this case.
@@HiveMind629Yes YSL has already had so many issues with the last trial. I can't believe it got worse the second time around. He may be guilty but deserves to be acquitted due to the state disrupting due process.
These people were so confident they could call in favors that they thought they could get away with this!
Boom goes the dynamite
No matter what was the truth, it is unacceptable and a shame the type of investigation that was done, it is not conductive to justice
As a law enforcement officer, I agree with you 100 percent.
Such a shame, John deserved better and his family
An adage I believe in is "If you have nothing to hide, why try to hide it?"
All of these Alberts and Co. are being such weasels.
Yes, but also imagine that they're innocent and were just caught in the middle of it.
Love your comment…. I never heard that saying before…..I’ll be using it in the future 👍👍👍
These people are shady AF.
The dog was barking because there were strangers in the house, but the dog was silent when they were screaming in the front yard and multiple sirens and flashing lights. Not believable
The sirens were not on, that has already been established.
@@megmeyer7563the 911 calls proves there was sirens
My dog barks at everything and sometimes nothing. However when he’s in his bed, and in a bedroom at night he does not get up or bark. I guess that’s his off hours lol
Most think Caitlin and Tristan took the dog with them that night because he had bitten John O'Keefe's arm very badly too
Then why has not one witness or video show anyone heard the dog barking? Snow absorbs sound. Sirens weren't on. Are you claiming every single responder was told not to say the dog was barking? This is something where you think people are lying or covering something up so now you think everything or every single detail is a conspiracy or a lie.
People not from Boston do not understand how tight knit it is. It is very common for people to stick together in this area. Anyone from the Northshore or Southshore of Boston know this. Most of these witnesses don't need to know what happened that night to be involved in this cover up. Turning a blind eye is all that is required or a fuzzy memory. At the end of this, Karen Reed will be found NOT GUILTY and the ALBERTS WILL NOT BE PROSECUTED. The only tragedy here is John O'keefe not getting the justice he deserves.
You definitely get that from all the cousins and school friends testimony. Sad because usually cops stick together. Not here! Very confusing for us non-Bostonians!
Oh but the FBI is already investigating!! They don’t care about townie culture
I'm a 70 yr old bostonian---this corrupt police friend familial culture has been going on for years---this case is just another example---free Karen Read. The investigation is wrought with examples of corruption---open your eyes people.
She is lying and did not see any black blob . They are such liars and none have any credibility!
She came off more credible during direct. And when she called him lally I was like. Damn I thought you were honest now I’m not sure
yup! This is so crazy. What a waste of everything. Ripping the kids from Karen after the O’Keefe’s get brainwashed. It’s all such a shame
I'm curious if someone is going to suggest she saw the electrical box and not a blob. They made point to mention the box while back.
Some people like this Julie Nagel, worships JJ=JM so intensely that they will do anything even commit perjury for them! Too stupid to think for themselves and apparently they think it's great to tell on TV and in this trial, that they saw a black blob, to gain fame! sad figure!
and the next day seeing the news but doesn't say anything to anyone
These witnesses seem incredibly shady. I have not determined which side I’m on, but it is impossible to ignore the contradictions, the lies, the inability to recall almost every detail of their life when it comes to these connections, and that huge amount of reasonable doubt it creates.
Well if you think there is any reasonable doubt, even a small amount, you have to vote not guilty
I am undecided too. I just think about the victim's family and the lack of emphaty shown to their love one.
@@LaLaLonnadoubt has to be reasonable tho. It's not ALL doubt. It's a reasonable doubt. Saying ANY doubt no matter how small isn't really accurate.
@@lisamcclendon2720true. In this case, there is ample and I mean ample reasonable doubt. In fact, I would suggest that the evidence actually exonerates her
@@lisamcclendon2720there is a large amount of doubt. The prosecutions case is weak AF.
To this moment, I *STILL* don't understand why Read is on trial. I've watched live or replay and still don't see "beyond doubt" here.
Agreed.
I agree, and her name is barely ever mentioned. I keep forgetting she’s in the court room or on trial.
@@c.l.bailey4256nor is John O’Keefe mentioned much except as the blob on the front lawn. Haven’t been able to watch a lot of the trial but how come no one is asked about their connection to O’Keefe? This is a weird trial. The names are the same as The Crucible! Goody Proctor!
If there was dead person in my garden and I had nothing to do with it I would give the police my phone straight away and insist they search my home. You don’t hide anything when you’re not lying - and I would want to prove my innocence with everything I had. The Albert’s did the exact opposite!
Yes! Wouldn’t you do everything you could to help w the investigation??? Just don’t get these people!
Up until now I'd have agreed with you, but in light of this ' investigation', I'd be afraid they' d plant evidence in my home
Yes they should of all handed over the phones. Learning that some of them did this has made a lot of viewers think they are definitely hiding something
I just can’t believe the last girls testimony about the “blob” because WHO wouldn’t say something the next day when they find out a literal dead body was found IN THE SAME YARD they saw the “blob” just a few hours before?!?! It makes ZERO sense!!! And then to not even question her, someone who left the house last, for 8 months?! Multiple times a day my mind gets blown by this trial! John deserved better no matter who is guilty. He was treated like garbage and was actually a FELLOW OFFICER!!!
Yes! The defense put out a notice if anyone saw anything to come foward but she did not.
Even if notice was not sent out, she had to know that her information was potentially important. Why didn’t she call police?
@@lindajohnson14 exactly why I can’t even consider it. Any normal decent person would immediately be like “oh my gosh, I saw something in the yard when we left at like 2 this morning. I HAVE to tell someone!”
And the owner of the house not even going outside for a fellow officer but drive two hours to attend a funeral of another officer. Strange.
@@wilma1970 they didn't attend Officer O'Keffe's funeral either.
Peter pay attention to the times they answer absolutely not. They all answer that to the same questions every time feels very coached to me.
They are acting like defendants getting caught in a lie. These witnesses do not act like they think this woman did the crime; seems like their main focus is making sure they defend themselves, their friends and family.
The headlights of every car that backed out of the driveway to go in the direction past the house would have shined across the ENTIRE lawn as the car went from an angle to straighten out. Not one person saw in the bright lights a large body, excessive blood lost, a shoe, hat or 47 red pieces of taillights??
Sarah Levinson has been visited at her place of employment by an Albert, fellow employees of hers have stated she has been having a hard time and having anxiety attacks etc. That is suspicious me! Why would an Albert be showing up at her employer and her be having anxiety attacks about it?
Isn't there something illegal about them intimidating a witness?
I don't believe her blob story for a second
She’s gonna break! She is going to be the one who tells the truth no matter what the world with have her back for telling the truth.
@@Caketime2Julie Nagel came out with the blob story , not Sara Levinson. Sara is an RN… are they harassing her in a hospital or a Dr’s office ?? If true, that’s pretty ballsy !
Is there a source for this
Tristan was just a hostile witness right from the start. He comes off looking like a complete idiot, a guilty of something idiot. And for him to say his girlfriend is high maintenance in public court is crazy. I think he’s pissed about the whole situation, the night it happened and the fact that he has to testify. He’s pissed.
Put yourself in defendant’s position I totally agree with you btw , I feel for the jury and it hurts to see this happening but if that was my dad who died , knowing that 0% of empathy , some witnesses refused to speak to defendants … if the police did an investigation then this whole situation/ splitting the community on sides
Oh he was Mr. Personality for sure! 🙄 Very rude ~ interesting when the defense attorney asked if he was told by anyone not to give info on times (if I remember right?)!
He honestly left me wondering if he was involved?!
I think there is a reason those 2 are not married yet lol
@@jessicaf328 100% agree!
All of these people have a blatant disregard for human life.
Except their own!
Imagine kr losing her boyfriend and the kids but also not being able to go to her funeral as she is the suspect! Thats horrible!
Well she did tell John’s sister in law she wouldn’t see them and packed her bags that morning
I can’t believe John’s family is buying all of this
@@nancyhunt6797you have to wonder what is wrong with them to believe all this bs.
I hope she sues them all when she’s found not guilty.
Shes remained stoic and determined, never waivers from staying involved or cocky and the public will have a go at her no matter what she does! If she cried,it would be sympathy, if she smiles it's arrogant and cocky (I'm sure at this stage of HER case, any positivity is worth a smile),remember 2 attorneys are doing this free for her because they believe in her!
She didn't want to get snowed in, yet her boyfriend had a SNOWPLOW!
So did Brian Higgins. we heard yesterday that his jeep had a plow on the front.
He had to be up at 3:30 am to go to work. Yes, maybe she didn’t want to be stuck there waiting for him to finish and no Ubers available to take her.
@@Chloe.zyxwvu Sus 😅
@@TXBULL195truck with a snow plough, I think of the movie Beautiful Girls
Making him drive at 2 to pick her up when he could get that extra hour of sleep before work 🫤
DA Lally needs to be disbarred after this trial. He knows the mcAlberts and Proctors are full of shit.
Oh you mean “Lally?” One of the witnesses called him Lally like that’s his nickname.
I reckon he has been forced to do this trial, he is fudging it so badly I'm wondering if that's purposely done?
@@marcopalazzo9349I doubt it. I think it's just that bad.
I believe he had no choice from what Peter and Emily D Baker said. Fair play to him for doing his job as a public defender IMO
@@janeevans1859 Lally is the prosecutor not a public defender which is a state funded defense attorney. Lally does not need to try anything that is not a crime.
Did nobody tell this family that being evasive just looks suspicious 🤨
It can be due to their experience as law enforcement or they dont wat to implicate themselves
@@mariee.5912how would they be implicating themselves if they’re innocent?? I just don’t get all the evasiveness!!
@@benzynyc well, we don't know if they're innocent or not. Sometimes innocent people try to prove very hard that they're innocent and end up looking suspicious. Or they might be guilty and are just trying to not incriminate themselves. I am still waiting to make up my mind.
@@mariee.5912 still lots more trial to go!
The Defense point is that Caitlin had planned to spend the night. But once the murder took place the cover up had to be put in place. And then Caitlin needed to go home prior to discovery. Parents tried to say she left at 12:15 but the 2am time came out.....the two young girls could not go with the brother of one because the cover up had to be planned. Then Jenn took them home. There was a leak of info and it may have been from one of the three other girls. The details were given to Defense.
Ryan Nagel receives a text from his sister asking him for a ride home. He arrives to pick up his little sister, only to learn she actually doesn’t want to go home. Therefore, she’s already proven to be unreliable or wishy washy at best.
She's not little
They are all big from drinking.
@@macmac2846😂
There’s an underlying reason Jen McCabe drove her home.. to get stories straight
@@bhowish ah! Jen McCabe the mastermind!!!! And crazy.
This case is the worse case I have ever viewed on YT. Can’t believe it’s gone to trial at this point. No wonder KR has so much support.
The prosecution hasn’t even presented a decent case in opening. 11 days in and I have seen no case. Thank god KR has managed to hire lawyers and I am assuming pay for them.
Especially the way the scene was investigated and the collection of evidence. Keystone cops.
Yes. Originally, I was pro-prosecution until watching attorney Melanie Little give her opinion. She's absolutely correct, so is Peter.
KR will sue them all and be sitting like a queen!
I think her supporters also donated money for her defense.
Have you noticed that when she hesitates, se looks at the prosecution
Or auntie bev, the judge
All of them do that
John 6'2" 220lbs wouldn't he have done more damage to back of the suv than break the taillight and his head higher than the taillight with head trauma no body injuries.
Maybe he bent over to pick up something he dropped. Js
I feel so bad for this family of this fallen police officer. He deserved so much better investigation and or care for his life means so much.❤💙💙💙I back the blue and proper justice for all.💙💙
This cast of characters have proven that you should never blindly "back the blue"
Yes let's not forget all this shadyness, fighting, using your position as a cop to intimidate are coming from the blue line gang themselves.
John has been done dirty but it's by other cops and the prosecution who works with cops and always leans toward believing them.
@@kelleybarber8803 Nor should you condemn them all.
@@Floridafanatic28 I don't- but I'll never blindly back the blue
Tristan was interviewed for the FIRST time one week ago!! 😬. Funny how Julie’s testimony has evolved! Wait until Julie Nagle’s brother Ryan testifies and says that Officer O’Keefe was not in Karen’s car and he was not on the lawn!
Yes this!!
Yes!
What time did she see the dark SUV drive around if she didn't leave until 145-2am?
She saw it from inside the house before her brother arrived.@@KatherineAgosto-rv6ky
And Tristan was not interviewed by the police, it was by the DA. Also the trial had already started.
@KatherineAgosto-rv6ky the SUV was seen at approx 12.30am
She remembers nothing but what the prosecution asks
The defence announced in public in Oct 22 that nobody had seen Johns body on the lawn. End of Oct proctor interviews nagal for the first time and ….she sees a black blob on the lawn .
She’s lying
She needs to come up with something to help the family
her daddy taught her to lie to save the family
Course he did and the rest of them
They will all have been lying their whole lives .
And OJ was framed too.
Free Karen Read
The daughter's boyfriend had an attitude. He was also coached by Big Daddy Albert to answer don't remember to every question.
i hit him, i hit him, i hit him
The boyfriend was way too evasive for me to believe anything he said.
Another theory these kids would cooperate in a cover is when the whole family have police ties in a small town. They would be screwed and not want to be on the bad side of that clan
I’m sorry, but Tristan could very well be a suspect too and at this point his defensive attitude made me side eye him. I’m on the side that Karen Read didn’t do anything, but anything could have happened, even excluding the Alberts.
This crossed my mind too.
I think that IF John died in the house, they threw him out there planning to blame the plow driver. Then Karen stepped into it by panicking and surmising that she possibly could have done it!
I agree. This is what I’ve said all along They put his body out there like he was hit by the plow
Why sell the house, get rid of the phone and seem to be lying so much?
There should be an open bar for the witnesses, they might remember more if they were intoxicated.
And the judge actually LAUGHED with the “of course” dialogue!
She might be corrupt, but she's still human. That was funny.
Sustained
@@anthonyoflaherty6394 lol
This case is insane. The Albert family are lying. It has come up that John was attacked inside this house, he was beaten up, probably fell and his hit head on the basement floor. The Alsatian but his arm and then they carried John out and put him at the side of the road. “ Upgrading their phones” really. They wanted to have their data deleted from their phones. The house wasn’t searched? The one shoe belonging to John was never found? Then the tiles in the basement were taken up and replaced _ I guess to get rid of all the b,old from his head wound. Then the house being sold and the dog disappearing? wtf. Police cover up. People who are hit by a vehicle always have I
Injuries to the lower part of their bodies or hips. I have picked up many pedestrians who have been hit by a vehicle. John only had injuries to his face, head and arm. IF she had hit him with her vehicle, her right back light was allegedly broken then he would have been thrown into the road, not to the opposite side.
This is a cover up gone bag!
I was thinking if he got there after 12, and something bad happen to him, and people left after 2 am and nobody saw anything (blob girl I think is a liar), that means he agonized in the basement for two hours, while people were partying. And he could've been helped, but they refused.
I can't believe these people never look around. Whenever it snows I always look outside to see how much we got and how the roads look. It's always so light and beautiful after the snow.
Exactly
I agree. I also normal look around when I leave sometimes house before getting in my vehicle - at least a quick sweep.
No sirens cause they even tried to disguise the address of the Albert’s
Johns poor parents & family to hear all this & pulled in so many directions. 😢💔
My biggest issue is why contradict yourself on small details? Getting caught in lies of trivial things just sets off major alarm bells for me. It’s bizarre.
So much Lack of RESPECT - most trials, witnesses say “YES SIR, NO SIR” - not “SURE, OKAY, IF YOU SAY SO”
I have been appalled at the yeps, etc. I have been wondering if only yes sir and yes mam is only Southern?
@@bettycattk5298 I think it’s who raised you IMO I have seen inmates in orange with handcuffs testify and are more respectful than these people - they don’t even show respect for OFFICER JO by not even acknowledging he was an officer
@@bettycattk5298I loved the defence making her say Mr Lally . These people are insolent and just rude .No manners or respect for the court .
Yep and a lot of yeah’s
Kudos to the defense team….they’re awesome👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Ambulances have loud engines. Even with no sirens, there is still noise from the engines, the voices, the radios, etc.
Yep. And they have to idle to keep the heat on inside. I used to live behind a hospital it was really annoying
Somebody on today's live gifted me a membership, but I don't know who. THANK YOU SO MUCH!
I think it's INSANE to think she sees a 5-6 ft black 'blob' exactly where they find poor John, & this is the first time she describes it like this to anyone officially in over 2 years. This case stinks, regardless of who is guilty or not.
Congratulations Peter on the 350,000 🎉 Been here since day one 🥰
So happy for you! 💞🇨🇦
Whoo Hooo!! Congratulations!!
The ‘of course’ was mentioned to try and push him off his stride. Telling someone not to use words they often use is the best way to interrupt thought patterns and slow them down, making them look unprofessional in front of the jury.
insane that the judge admonished him about that but not Lally's constant "what if any, who if any, where if any how if any.."
I prayed last night for justice in this case and for the truth to come out for the sake of John O'Keefe family and Karen Read if she is truly innocent. I'm not a very religious person so I don't know if it's working or not but I see this entire situation as troubling many people and I don't like that so I'm gonna keep on praying and hoping it helps.
Honestly, I've been doing the same since the trial started. I want the truth to come out.
He’s mad at the defense because his girls feelings are shook!
Coming from a MA resident, I want my hard earned money back for trying this case!!!!!!!! I am “OUTRAGED” -David Yannetti
How can you argue a officer trained dog wasn’t alerted to a crowd in the yard?!?
Yes, the judge has been doing some odd things and can't agree more.
This is such a cover up by law enforcement! But this is more common than you realize! The judge is in on it so I’m sure the jury is bought already
Why are these women lying about being friends???
Being in pictures together because you have mutual friends does not make you friends. I hang out with lots of people who have other friends there and will be in pictures with me who I am not friends with. I think it's a huge reach.
@@lisamcclendon2720 not sure I care one way or the other. These individuals were state’s witnesses, what was the point of their testifying?
If you are NOT GUILTY and was AT THIS PARTY that had a dead police officer at, I’d be hauling my ass to PD that morning to make a statement and record it bec of the corruption! These people are guilty!
The “of course” your honor gets funnier and funnier every time😅
“Of course “ is a sarcastic but polite “yeah right!”
Why did no one bring up when Tristan or McCabe backed out of the driveway THE LIGHTS would have shined right on the front yard
Thanks, Peter! I’m so grateful these defense attys are fighting zealously for Karen R. I don’t think the commonwealth has a case here.
Did you notice the Defence asked Caitlin Albert, did Chloe go home with you that night you were leaving the house? I thought this was strange and was waiting for more.. watching from Ireland 😅😅
Agreed. Waiting to see if more comes from that question. I think the defense might think someone took Chloe after the “attack”
the defense has left many nuggets, when it’s their turn things will come together. snapchat seemed to make an appearance out of nowhere as well……..
If the dog wasn't there it would make sense why she wasn't barking that morning. I don't remember anyone saying they saw the dog that morning.
Dog likely had johns blood on her
Also - when Brian Albert did not go outside - how did he know the John was not shot or stabbed? Wouldn’t u want to know how person was injuried - at that point they didn’t know or have reason to think Karen hit him?
Jen told hm what Karen was screaming, "I hit him, I hit him".
I’m from MA. When major snow is forecast, we are bombarded with news alerts to the point of nauseam. Local programming is interrupted hourly. I don’t believe that any of these witnesses had no plan to get home or stay in place.
Good to know! And yet they all went bar hopping and partying ad nauseam as if it were a light snowfall. I would imagine the general warning would be “Stay off the roads” and yet they just kept partying!
She knew damn well she was teamates
Why are all these people leaving at 2am in a snowstorm? I know there was only a little bit of snow on the ground at that point but it’s snowing with 20+ mph winds it’s pitch black and they were all drinking. You’d think the homeowner being a cop wouldn’t want people to leave and risk it driving, sober or not, until daylight.
So much bar hopping on a snowy night! I was never much of a bar hopper myself but definitely didn’t need to do the bar scene in my 40’s! Would not venture out in a snow storm even if it wasn’t as bad earlier in the night. would’ve been better if everyone stayed home.
But in Boston area - this isn't really "a big storm" it was a few inches. Not 12-18 inches. I can see questioning driving if this is an actual Nor'Easter but... it wasn't....
If you live in the north a few inches of snow and 20mph winds isn't that bad... I've driven in worse to get home from work some nights.
(No one should be driving after drinking though.)
@@sarafoss4890 to get home from work fine. But after a long night of drinking? Matt McCabe was drinking all night and left at almost 2am. I live about 45 minutes from canton, I agree we’re used to those conditions but it’s still not smart especially after drinking when daylight is only a few hours away
When people say, how could an entire police department, the DA’s office, and EMT’s all conspire without anyone letting the cat out of the bag. This case makes me wonder if every government employee involved has dirt on each other.
I don’t think you could find a better example of people “knowing everything… but also knowing nothing” all at the same time.
I find it very funny that all these witnesses for prosecution can remember things for them but absolutely not remember anything for the defense. Also that some were not interviewed for months or years later and the deleting of the information.on phones and especially the ones that had notice to not delete anything. Very shady
Peter, one of the things I have always liked about you is that you always hunt for the best word to use in a sentence. It is important to you that the correct word be utilized. I am the same way I remember in college, and in grad school, pondering over each Word and whatever it was, I was writing. It had to be just the right one. The right, or wrong, word can make all the difference. I am pleased to see that you understand this, and therefore try very hard to choose the right words to convey the meaning you intend. The right, or the wrong, word can make all the difference. You understand this I can tell that you are a reader, because you have a rich vocabulary. Readers often do have very good vocabularies. Thank you for being so precise, in the world, where, so many are in different to the proper structure, the proper syntax used in our speech
So, thank you again for being so precise in your language.❤
I have a real hard time believing that any of theses witnesses were able or capable of not discussing this case with there close friends and family who were also witnesses
These witnesses keep looking for an objection every time there's a hard question....it makes them look all the more guilty.
Appreciate your analysis. Straightforward, not gossips like some. Also short, not a hash of the rehash. Lawyers like to repeat the same things.
It seems to me that at some point the decision was made to get all the people out of the house as quickly as possible-especially the younger people to distance them from this. Then it seems similarity that it was purposeful to not interview any of the younger people. To keep any questions off them.
Tristen was hostile and I think hurt the prosecution very much. Not knowing approximately the timing of picking his girlfriend up? To me it screams cover up and he definitely knows the timing from his phone. Bs!
Yes. He was ridiculous - just answered sarcastically,do not remember/no to everything.
Yes I agree! Especially testosterone colin.
He said she is high maintenance he knows there family is high maintenance he needed to get her out of there fast
If these people didn't do anything why are they acting so shady on the stand? They are handing the defense reasonable doubt just by being so evasive.
If someone were accusing you of a crime or lying, during someone else's trial, that's being streamed to the whole country and now you're getting harassed and threatened, would you care to be nice and police and respectful and give any info you have? I wouldn't. Esp if they are trying to spin everything i testify to.
@@lisamcclendon2720 if this wasn't a trial where a person's freedom for the rest of their life based on a flawed and possibly corrupt investigation maybe their behavior would make sense but no, I've never seen witnesses one after another be so evasive while simultaneously being extremely well prepped and good at testifying. The rarity of witnesses like this is what makes them stand out.
I LOVE the “of course” moment so much. Yes it’s a murder trial, and there should be respect shown to the victim… but it was nice to have a lighthearted moment yesterday, even if it was just for a second or two.
💯 gotta break the tension once in a while 😊
I don’t think people who question the amount of witnesses or young people testifying understand Boston family and friend dynamics. Loyalty runs DEEP and so does not “snitching”. It’s not far fetched at all growing up here to believe everyone in the house would back each other up. A lot of them are also just saying they left, didn’t see John, or someone left with them.
The problem Peter is that John’s wounds don’t back up him falling. He has what appears to be dog bites that don’t match, and defensive wounds on the back of his hands.
The timing of her saying she saw black blob is very suspect! Months later!
They already said there were lights NO SIRENS. Also, no one from any other house on the street came out either.
In some states they allow jurors to ask questions. I wish they were allowed here, too.