I feel bad for Hamill. This was his last time to shine as Luke. Seems he really cares about the fans and the series and feels his character let them down.
I wonder if he is aware of his legends version of him and how badass he is in it. Might bring some peace of mind to me that is universe A and the new shit is just some alternate thing.
@@meb8839 I'm don't know the books / comics / etc., however, I'll always treat that as "real" versus the bullshit that has come out in recent years.... Let Disney have "Coke 2"..... fuck those guys....
The whole original trilogy has been made redundant by the disney movies. The characters in the original trilogy accomplished nothing. The empire did not fall, just rebranded. The Jedi did not return. The rebels just continued to be rebels living on forest moons for the next 35 years. Nothing changed or evolved. The disney movies lack any courage or creativity. They just want to rehash the original movies but with a girl in the lead and hope nostalgia draws in the audience.
I think you've nailed exactly why the new movies are so horrible, and why they are such abysmal failures. Fans of Star Wars (the true fans, that is), experienced something with the original trilogy. There was a feeling of threat, risk and finally...reward. The Empire had been defeated, the Jedi were re-established as - basically - guardian knights of the galaxy, and everything was going to be better. But no...the new movies spit in the face of the sacrifice, hopes and dreams of the originals, and simply re-hash, reboot, and drag out what was already done, as though the originals never existed.
Here's another log to throw on the fire of how bad Disney has destroyed Lucas's Star Wars. From the time, in the time line, that Revenge of the Sith ends until TFA starts is only about 50 at most. We know for certain Chewbacca has been alive the whole time and there's a good chance many other people are as well. My point being, there should still be a decent number of people around who knew what life was like before the Empire existed. It isn't even until New Hope, roughly 20 in, that the Senate is finally dissolved.
The Empire returning was part of George Lucas' plan for ST as well. I agree the whole thing has been badly handled by Disney and Lucasfilm, but something that size was never just going to go away. Indeed, if anything I suspect the conflict between The New Republic and the still vast remains of the Empire in Lucas' ST, may well have been bigger and badder than ever.
Of course, but Disney doesnt have to make an effort for the nerds, they just wanna make sure they can sell stuff to more people. Disney is a company with shareholders, optimizing everything for the best quarter revenues. The movie still made more than a billion, and they made a fortune in licensing and toys (btw, it's easier to sell a Rey figurine than a old Luke Skywalker figurine...)
I’m sorry, I agree with you about Luke but not Han. They assassinated him too. He became a deadbeat dad and husband who receded back into his smuggler ways rather than maintaining how he developed as a character in the OT. All the original characters are outshined by Rey being inexplicably perfect at everything. Just awful
I agree with you. A least Han got to have a great adventure and some funny moments. But the idea of him abandoning everything he loved dearly (especially Leia) and returning to smuggling? We watched his character grow from a cocky, self-centred smuggler who only looked out for himself (and maybe Chewie), to a man willing to give his life to help his friends and do what was right. In the swipe of a pen, they erased all of that wonderful character development from the original trilogy. I blame it on very lazy writing, The Force Awakens is just a recycled retread of the first Start Wars film.
It's unfortunate to see Han regress back to his rogue lifestyle, but at least I can believe it's Han. There's no way that cynical, paranoid bum we see in the Last Jedi is Luke Skywalker.
To see Han Solo as a father suffering from loosing his son to the one thing his best friend swore to defeat would’ve been a compelling acting for Harrison Ford and the audience! Star Wars is dead…
The world: "YAAAY Luke is back!!!" Disney: *kicks the world in the balls* HOW AWESOME WAS THAT??? The world: "Not cool asswipe." Disney: "MISOGYNISTS!!!"
Hollywood has been turned into a propaganda machine. The aims of the owners of Hollywood, the same cabal that owns the central banks and the mainstream media (elite, Zionist Jeωs); is to undermine white societies and attack the white male and family values. Luke Skywalker was a white male hero, so he had to be extinguished in peoples minds. He had to be replaced with colored people and females. The script writing instructions, from globalist elites, is deliberate and calculated. I don't mind the attack on Christianity, or the loosening of sexual morals by these elite Zionists. But the attack on the white male combined with the mass immigration of colored, lower average-IQ people and the Middle East wars ... they have gone to far with all that. For understanding the politics, recommend videos such as: 1. *Who Owns The Media?* - (search for dp9F3XumYQA) 2. *Who Owns The Federal Reserve Full by Brother Nathanael* (vFwwJJL-fLs) 3. *Central Banking Explained (satan's monetary control) Part 1 of 2* (a8GyHK8751s) 4. *ALL WARS ARE BANKERS' WARS* (lunSNY5B48)
It’s just proof that wasn’t the Luke and this whole series was fake. The Luke we know from the prequels wouldn’t have done that. Proving this is not canon.
There's a huge possibility that they only decided to ruin Star Wars on purpose. Lately, in video games as in movies, the only thing they care about is having a woman as first character and show how strong she is. Also bring some more SJW stuff and that's it.
Me too. I could never see him doing that. They basically took the Han from the first half of the original Star Wars and plopped him into The Force Awakens without any of the hard-earned character develop from the rest of the original trilogy.
I saw a great video that said that the problem with putting old characters at the beginning of their character arc again is that their victories become their failures.
Luke in the OT: _Even though I've grown past the naivete of my youth, I still believe that forces of evil can be brought back to the light. In fact, I_ know _this, as my father Darth Vader was ultimately redeemed. I was ready to die instead of killing him; I refuse to follow a dark path as he once did._ Luke in TLJ: _I'm going to murder my nephew in his sleep because I'm worried he might do something bad at some point in the future._ Luke in the OT: _Even though I'm putting myself at great risk by battling enemies that surely overpower me, I will always fight to save my friends and bring peace to the galaxy. I'm physically and emotionally battered, but I will never give up._ Luke in TLJ: _My own mistakes are causing great suffering to the galaxy and the people I love. Evil is rising because of a misunderstanding I inexplicably created. I'm going to hide on a remote island and wait for death. When someone comes around in the hope of making things right, I'll tell them to fuck off and continue to refuse to do what heroes should do._ Fuck this movie
@@maelstrom2313 Please do not politicise a discussion about fictional characters, this is not welcome. Lucasfilm brought enough social issues into the movies already.
Now to be fair, the second point is partly on JJ Abrams. Rian is certainly the worse of the two, but JJ was the one that chose to send Luke to the middle of nowhere to hide as the galaxy crumbles from yet another war. He chose to let his friends do all the fighting rather than join them. Again, don't get me wrong, Johnson is the greater aggressor here, but JJ set him up with some out of character choices. Honestly I'm just saddened we didn't get to see the 3 of them in the Millenium Falcon together one last time
@@wilsonram39 Hmm.. I wonder though, doesn't Ep 7 just tell us that Luke has vanished and part of the plot is finding the map that leads to him? Or does the movie _actually_ say he purposefully went there to hide? Thinking about it, I don't think Ep7 ends with the viewer knowing _why_ Luke was on the island. For all we knew back then, he could have been stuck there against his will or on a quest of his own to battle the First Order...
at least the prequels are memeable and enjoyable as there is an actual story, the new trilogy started with some potential but was absolutely robbed of any meaning from this movie
The pre-quels were, in retrospect no that bad. Not bad att all actually. J-J Binks was a pain, but as the movies went on there were alot less of him, and the story they told was a good story, disregarding some of the love story C-plot. Let´s face it, Episode I-III were good movies whit problems. Disney Star Wars is garbage whit good moments. I liked how Anakin´s lightsabre in episode VII had a "memory" of sorts, for example. It´s, on the whole, a piece of shit ( when taking "The Last Jedi" in to accounts ) but that moment I liked.
Luke in Empire Strikes Back: _"I'm going to go fight Vader to save my friends, even though I know I'm not fully trained and will almost certainly die in the process."_ Luke in Return of the Jedi: _"I'm going to go save Vader from the Dark Side even though I know he's one of the most dangerous and evil men in the galaxy."_ Luke in The Last Jedi: _"I'm going to murder my nephew in his sleep because I'm worried he might do something bad at some point in the future."_ Makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
@@VaderPopsVicodin10 I'm just wondering how badly Mark Hamill must have been in debt in order agree to play Luke and butcher the character so badly. You'd think he'd just refuse to do it
Luke finally grew up and realized that the Jedi dream was a lie and a failure. It's called 'perspective' and there is literally no excuse for failure to understand his motivations as the viewer, considering the fact that he clearly states them. You simply disagree with him. Wah.
@@trevorthornley8835 i hear you man, I actually abstained from watching the Ashoka series, it looked so low budget and it was obvious from the clips I've seen they were trying to fill in as much dead air as possible due to the writer strike at the time, so they took the lazy way out instead of paying their writers their actual worth. And to be honest the future star wars shows/movies aren't looking that mind blowing either, so I may take your advice
Back when 'Last Jedi' had premiered, I remember reading a user review/comment on Imdb by a guy who as he said was seriously ill probably terminally, and was a big long-time fan. He described how pumped he was before episode 8, as he couldn't wait to see it, especially Luke, and he was going on race against time as it was one of his last wishes to see Luke again as a Jedi master. Then he described how when he went to the theater (with difficulty because of his illness), and saw the movie, it just broke his heart so bad, how it depressed him, and then he felt his extreme sadness actually worsen his health. He didn't express anger or hate on his comment, but you could tell how genuinely wrecked inside he was and how deeply disappointed. It was so heartbreaking for me to read this. I don't know what happened to the guy, but bless him wherever he is... When I read his comment, episode 8 disgusted me even more. Now, when I hear people say, "hey I loved the Last Jedi", "I think Luke was perfect in Last Jedi", and so on, I think about this guy's wrecked soul and I get upset. It is revolting to me, when someone says they get pleasure out of seeing Luke toss his legendary father's lightsaber in a parody fashion, milk a seacow's tit and drinking green milk in a disgusting manner, or him whining for a whole movie, and dying from a heart attack, all alone on a rock, and describe this as "perfect". It's so disrespectful to all the people that loved this character, It just sickens me. I think of this pure fan, who had a wish before he died, the same wish as millions and millions of other fans, to see their beloved character 'Luke' again as a beacon of hope, as a wise and powerful Jedi Master, only to have that judicious wish destroyed by some guy called Rian Johnson. And now this honest Star Wars fan probably has left this world with a wrecked soul. How disrespectful this movie was to all the people who cherished this mythos, this character, how this movie literally trolled these people. This is what episode 8 did. It broke people's hearts. It depressed them, it destroyed everything beloved by millions of people. What they did with this movie, is, and will always be, unforgivable.
No doubt someone will say he was a "fan Boy" and it was only a movie well no, it was important to me, to you and to this man. They actually said "this film was not about us"? who do they think paid for all of it. I will not give them another penny after being treated this way and your story of that poor guy will make me even more determined, well written
Make no mistake, Kennedy intentionally turned Han into a deadbeat father who abandons his family, Luke into a loser whose entire legacy was just bravado, and leia into the matriarch. This woman has real issues.
@@haraldisdead Even Dave Cullen doesn't use the term anymore, but it's a dated expression invented by liberals desperate to seperate themselves from the subversive commies that Yuri warned us about.
Mark Hamill did a lot of voice over work from my understanding. The fact that Carrie, Mark and even Harrison came back after 40 years to do the movies was something every star wars fan was so looking forward to. What they did to all of these characters just basically said "if you are old you are useless." People are living longer and Disney should of embraced an older generation as well. Yoda was kicking butt being centuries old and obi wan in the last hope was no push over either.
I could not believe it when I first saw the interview when Kennedy spouted this abominable nonsense. That's like getting hired to expand a house for a customer and burning it down first thing in the morning of the first day of construction - and then telling the customer: "We have to build an entirely new house from the ground; we don't _have_ a house to expand like you wanted. Btw, the bill might be slightly higher than projected. Also, the new house might be a piece of shit because we don't give a fuck about how you liked your old house. And if you should dare complain about this, we will call you a racist, patriarchal misogynist, so think hard about what you are going to say next, asshole."
I thought that when she got sucked out into space that would have been the end of it, and it would have been a good end... but they had to fuck it up (because empowering female characters with the power of space flight to the detriment of your entire franchise is more important).
I've been watching your videos for a few weeks now and this older one came up. I've never heard sadness in your voice before. It's not in any of your newer stuff. This one really hurt, didn't it? I know it hurt me. I was born in '76 and grew up with Star Wars being my favorite thing. Luke was definitely a hero of mine. Rion Johnson destroyed a part of me I thought was impossible to destroy. He did that to all of us. Given everything we've learned about the people in control of this new wave of entertainment, I think it was done on purpose. Men are hated so much by these people that they're willing to deprive boys of growing up with heroes just to hurt them
Besides Joker he isn't known for much. Luke is still his and the drinker pointed out he's been the most interactive with the fans in conventions and on social media. He hasn't done much film wise. When you think Hamill you think Luke.
You are right. The 3 installments should of been a new generation meeting the characters of Luke, Leia, Han etc.. with Rey being under training with Luke. Luke, Leia and Han should of been still vital characters. Yoda and Obi Wan were still kicking butt so this would of not been a problem for the characters. Disney basically said "If you are old you are useless and don't deserve to live." People are living longer now and they completely missed the mark.
The sadest is, as it's said, Mark Hamill seems to be a real nice person, he didn't deserve to be humiliated this way! Adding the passing of Carrie Fisher and Peter Mayhew, sad ending!
He's actually a douche. He's a far leftist who constantly gets into Twitter flame wars with people and belittles anyone with different opinions than him.
@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath actually, they PAID him and TOLD him to say "sorry." He knew it was shit. He knew it would be terrible and it would ruin Luke. Please do your research.
It wasn't enough to kill our heroes, Luke, Leia and Han, they had to destroy them first. Luke did not become a great Jedi master who reinvented the order. Leia did not become a wise states woman leading a peaceful Republic. Han did not become a wealthy businessman with a feet of ships. They all became old, tried shit. Disney had to kill all that in the name of cheap drama. So, yes, the Star Wars story ended in triumph after Return of the Jedi (and the Timothy Zahn books.) Disney was bitter, jealous fanfic of a hateful franchise.
@@briansheehan3430 let's not go that far... I'd sum them up as poorly executed movies with great ideas, worldbuilding and narratives (for the most part).
@@TheConservativeCrusader Don't be ridiculous. Ghosts can't type. I manipulated the electrical currents of my laptop's keys with my ghost powers to make the characters appear on screen as if I had typed them. I figured people needed to know how dangerously funny that comment was so they didn't encounter the same fate as I.
@Tim Hanselbach A) dont they have less than lethal settings for stun and such? Yet they never seem to use them. B) dont blasters also have stun settings as well? So couldnt jedi still use them for less then lethal?
No one will likely ever read this but I have to write it anyway. I will never forget as a teenager in the theater finally getting to see Luke as a real bad-ass Jedi in Return of the Jedi. It was the evolution of his character we had all been waiting for, and at the conclusion of the scene on Jabba's barge I literally jumped up from my seat and whooped with joy. By the end of the film, Luke is truly the savior of the galaxy and his story would undoubtably become legend. Then the Last Jedi happens. I sat in the theater anxiously awaiting the return of Luke, the seasoned Jedi Master who would like an aging gunslinger once more pick up his lightsaber and put his life on the line to save the day. The utter despair and disappointment of what this movie did to arguably the franchises most important character and undeniably its heart and soul was the equivalent of a curb stomp to my childhood hero and to Luke's legacy in the Star Wars cannon forever. Luke was treated with such disrespect and indifference to his character and its development through the original trilogy that it would have been better had they not even included him in the sequels. Congratulations J&K, you have made the world a little bit more depressing by diminishing what was once a symbol of good over evil and a light in the darkness. Thanks for that.
I've seen soooo many analyses on TLJ. You would think that people would run out of criticisms or deconstructions or plotholes but no. Yours is a welcomed voice. I have never, never, never in my life heard so MANY poingiant, striking, well thought out, thorough, and downright ingenious critiques of ANY other film than I have of this one. It just goes to show you how deeply this movie wounded so many, how disrespectful it was, and how much these characters were loved. Ruminations like these don't come from just seeing a bad movie, they come from some place much deeper. There is NOTHING close to the complexity of emotion and psychology that goes into these critiques on the side of those who defend this movie. I've been done with Star Wars for quite some time, but I am just starting to realize that the damage this movie has done will be spoken of passionately for decades to come.
Imagine it this way: in 2040, they announce a new Harry Potter film, and excitedly report that the entire original cast is returning. But the original characters are nothing like their original selves, in demeanor or actions, and Harry, Ron, and Hermione never once all share the screen together. That's what we were given with the sequel trilogy. Characters who are distorted from their former selves, and we never once see Luke, Leia, and Han together; this fact appeared to upset Mark Hamill, as he's mentioned it a few times. The chance of a lifetime. Shot.
I doubt anyone will see this comment on a 4-year-old video, but I wanted to say that I was not just upset by what Disney did to Luke and Han, but also by what they did to Leia. The end of the original trilogy implied that Leia would learn to use the force and become a Jedi. Disney Leia is so disappointing to me.
Entirely agreed! Leia failing to use the force and then that idiotic Mary Poppins scene... they're travesties against the original character. The whole movie is.
I think even in the extended universe she didn’t become a Jedi. All of her children did though. And her oldest son did turn to the dark side. Those were actually a couple things Disney kept from the EU. I’m with you though. I always wanted to see Leia as a Jedi.
Yes, PLEASE. The Disney trilogy turns out to be nothing more than a nasty fever dream that was induced when Luke accidentally mixed some Tatooine peyote into his stew.
Dude I'm not kidding when you talked about Luke at the end, as an actor I literally teared up. I experienced that myself in a smaller way and it totally broke my heart and Now I literally don't even recognize that " franchise " that I have represented in the past. I thought the same thing you did , , they hated having Luke Skywalker in that movie. Honestly man thank you for taking the time to see this actors heart. And I'd like to think that he has seen your video before and felt encouraged, where they made him feel lonely before. I don't know if you're the best writer in the world, but right now you are to me .
I hate to say this but most actors are whores. Mark Hamill SHOULD have told them to go fuck themselves or rewrite the entire Luke Skywalker arc, but he saw that paycheck and showed up, milked a space walrus and acted like a complete twat. Hamill would have sucked a Wookie's cock while wearing a pink ballet skirt if they had told him to.
@sonoki82 I disagree. Mark Hamill was upset because Star Wars was not just a movie to him, it was his greatest legacy. He speaks about Skywalker as if he's a real person he knows well. This move undermines his most iconic role and as a bonus erases any chance of him being a part of any future Star Wars saga. That is not worth a few million.
@sonoki82 No, I agree about the contract and would like to believe that's the only reason he stayed. I still disagree however than he would have done it anyway, even for 20-30 million. Others have walked away from that kind of money before. The kind of person who would have taken the money anyway wouldn't risk his multi-million dollar contract to sabotage the film in public with his scathingly negative reviews even before it's released.
Hamill couldn't walk away. He's contractually bound - and let's be honest, he had no clue what would happen to his character from the offset. I'm sure back in the early 2010's he would have been happy to know he would once again be playing a beloved character of his, Luke Skywalker (you can tell he really loves what the character means to so many people) ... he couldn't have imagined it could have ever one day been THIS BAD.
12:06 The look on Hamill's face here say it all. In so many of those promotional pieces for Last Jedi he just looked like he was in one of those hostage videos and that Kathleen Kennedy was off-camera with a gun to his head. He looks so awkward, uncomfortable, and betrayed. It's the most tellingly awkward interview footage outside of those Endgame ones where Brie is going off on one, and her co-stars are sitting there with 'wtf' expressions on their facea.
reminded me very much of different interviews/ appearances of game of thrones actors when talking about season 8. even with all their acting skills they couldn´t hide their disappointment how their characters turned out in the end
Sadly he's not that bad of a director in general as his recent movie knives out is pretty decent. I'd blame Kathleen for this mess but that's also mostly because Rian just probably nodded his head like a donkey whenever she says something dumb
@@ssk58607 He's a complete prick as a person from what I've seen though - constantly calling people man babies on twitter for complaining about the film and someone asked 'now that you've see the criticism and comments, can you appreciate or understand any of them' and he said no. How up your own arse do you have to be to not even consider that something might be wrong in something you've done. George said films would never get released if they weren't taken for release day because directors always see something they think they could do better or improve on
@@darthconquerus I usually don't care about what directors or actors do outside of movies but in general it's easier to hate the guy when he makes a terrible movie and more so when he's defending it so yeah sure. Zack Snyder called fans dumb when they wanted to see a batman that doesn't kill people lol he said be fucking realistic nd all to lifelong fans what do you think of that
@@ssk58607 I think the biggest problem is that johnson wasn't really familiarized with the world of star wars, of course when a studio pick a director or an actor for a role they are always gonna say "yeah i'm a huge fan of X thing" but he didn't get the meaning of practically anything, when luke threw away anakin's lightsaber I literally couldn't believe what I was watching, and that isn't "subverting expectations" is just incoherence on the narrative.
I wanted to ask George Lucas what he thought about the last Jedi. So I tracked him down. I found him on a 4-billion-dollar money island. He was living there as a recluse. Then I asked him about this movie, handing him a DVD of his OT. He just tossed it over his shoulder, said “fuck the Jedi” and told me it was time for the Jedi to end. I then flew halfway across the galaxy to confront the roundheaded one, known as Swoke. But he just told me he thought all these characters were really funny. He just wanted to make a comedy for children with space wizards. But he got cut in half by man-child J.J. Ren. But then it turned out the roundheaded one was just a clo(w)ne made by the evil empress Kennedine. Turns out she was behind it all from the beginning and had somehow survived this entire shit show. It had been her filling J.J. Ren’s head with all kinds of SJW voices, back since The Force Awokens. She had been the one pulling Swoke’s strings all along as well. And lo and behold, she was even the grand mother of movie death star MaRey Sue who had been specifically designed to kill the Star Wars Universe
@@stevepalpatine2828 : I cant imagine why I didnt walk out of the theater?, I was really horrified and transfixed. When it was finaly all over everyone got up and silently walked out of the theater, in contrast when I saw Star Wars and the next two films everyone CLAPPED at the end,
I stood in line and saw "A New Hope" in a Manhattan theater when it first came out (I'm 64). I also went to see the next two films in the theater and it became a treasured part of my youth. But as far as I'm concerned, Star Wars ended years ago and I wouldn't watch "The Last Jedi" if it showed up on my TV.
Same here. I was seven years old when Star Wars came out. Saw it on the big screen four times. Since it was in theaters for fourteen months ! At that age, that felt like forever. Every time mother and I would drive past the local theater, for that whole time, I remember seeing it listed in the films showing. Every time, I would ask, when we could go see it again. Then Empire Strikes Back came out, and my little world was rocked even more then the first film. Then the prequel / sequel junk came and went. Never even bothered to see episodes 2, 8, or 9. Everyone I spoke to said they were garbage. So I figured why waste my time and money. Never thought I'd feel that way. I still haven't seen them. Better things to do. Rogue One was good. Not great, but good. Solo was junk. Saw it in French. Don't care to see it in English. We still have memories of the good times. At least we have that.
If Disney (specifically Kennedy) can declare the entire expanded universe non-canon, then we, the fans, can declare this insulting sequel trilogy non-canon. Sure, we can never have the original actors again, and that hurts in a big way, but hopefully, eventually, someone with more love for the source material can make a proper sequel trilogy that will put Johnson and Kennedy to shame. We have spoken.
This sounds like the beginning of a prophecy. The prophecy of the one who will return balance to the force by remaking the sequel trilogy as it should have been.
A prophecy that'll happen 100 years from now when Diz-Knee gives up the rights after they're done gentrifying and gender swapping it to the point it becomes Star Wars: The Return of the Ewoks, A Holiday Special. Hosted by Kathleen Kennedy on Diz-Knee Negative right after the Holly Hobbie Mid-Season Finale. That'll be the sign to show the true fans that balance will soon be brought back.
Yeah, also Rey so fucking powerful would never need a starmap, wondering she didn't just point her hand somewhere and summoned Luke using Force from wherever he was, like Accio in Harry Potter.
My favorite part is their star map without the missing piece is like a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle and you're missing one piece. Why do you need to find the missing piece??? CLEARLY Luke is in the missing part.
@@porridge57 losing to rey is bullshit in every way, losing to kylo would be a whole different thing if you think of obi-wan in a new hope. letting the bad guy kill him so the "new hope" (luke respectively rey) would have a chance to grow in character and skill with the force. but this projection bullshit made no sense whatsoever especially because rey obviously doesnt even need to grow, she was seemingly born with more power than anyone else in the fucking galaxy. seeing mark hamills face in some interviews really shows how heartbroken he is about his character and I think many fans of the series feel the same way. its so bad you kinda begin to cherish the quality of the prequels, which says a lot I think.
I could never understand why - if Luke wanted to be alone and isolated because of his shame about what happened to his pupil - he left a detailed map of where to find him. How did they find the exact island where he was living, and how did Rey know exactly where to find him on that island?
All my friends told me not to see it. Eventually I tried to watch it on Netflix, When Luke threw his lightsaber I turned it off. Then a month later I decided to continue. When I saw him drinking green milk, I stopped it again. Then 2 months later... I see Luke try to kill his nephew and, I canceled Netflix...at least for awhile.
I find it so funny that you cancelled Netflix. This Disney Star Wars stuff is just awful. It's the cancer of cinema. It's probably what bankrupted Toys R Us.
The thing is, Mark Hamill hates the new trilogy. They tricked him into signing a contract to act in all the movies, and had no choice once the producers were changed.
Mark HAS to work, this is his chance to earn BIG money, he should have always had the same fee {or more} that Harrison got, Harrison was already a huge star and incredibly wealthy. Mark and Carrie should have all been on the same money
Mark is an amazing actor, on screen and voice acting. Such a shame that this shit show is what people will remember him for, even though it's not even his fault.
One theory I have about Luke having no personality or 'balls' in this series is because Rey has no personality. She's supposed to be the protagonist, yet, since she's a mary sue, there's nothing to teach her. She doesn't need any 'growth', so what could Luke teach her? It's a vain metaphor for the young female generation stating that they don't need old white men telling/teaching them anything...
Hi! I live in a socialist/feminist country in Scandinavia. I was brought up here, and being a boy and then a man I have heard so much hate against me, since I don't follow their narrative. At Uni I was so bullied by other female Norwegian and female Swedish students and female Professors that I even considered suicide. I will also say that most of these women are man-hating in the closet lesbians or transgenders and I would call them soul-less and of course no personality or happiness in their life if you see my point how they act? Anyway, I am ok today, but had to change carrier where there were at least a 70/30 ratio of men/women at the workplace and the harassment against me stopped.
@Dr G You poor fucking victim. I fell so bad that you lacked the balls to stand up for yourself like men do. It's sad that you are nothing but a victim. Down the road not across the street.
Been a fan of Star Wars since I watched ANH in 1977 at the age of 13. I couldn't agree more with everything you said. Especially the last part about the fact that it can never be unmade. Heartbreaking to be a fan right now. The people who made and really enjoyed this film must have extremely low expectations.
There's no character development. Rey seems to have no flaws. In the prequels and originals we saw the imperfections of Anakin and Luke and even Kenobi
My wife and her cousin (stuck here with us due to quarantine) decided to watch the entire Star Wars series (the nine movies from the main story line) the other day. They had never seen them and watched them in chronological order. With no expectations, nostalgia or memory of the original trilogy in the way, they enjoyed the prequels. The original trilogy took them a bit of getting used to the dated special effects, but ultimately they loved the story line. At the end of Return of the Jedi my wife asked me why they made the sequels. Didn’t the story conclude perfectly and where were they going to go from here? They then started watching The Force Awakens and after half an hour turned it off. They found it complete shite. It confirmed my choice to never watch any of these three sequels. Particularly as it seems the last two are even way worse than The Force Awakens
As an amateur fiction writer, it is astounding how they managed to fit so much awful writing in one script. I'm not kidding when I say a random 15 year old from fanfiction.net could have done a better job.
@@Aethuviel totally agree, this script was so horrible and I can't understand how Lucasfilm let this happen. How did they not put the breaks on this mess and regroup. I mean, at least we know Mark Hamill raised concerns, how did they just ignore him?!? So they can't have the excuse that they didn't know.
When i saw this i realised Luke was THE hero from my childhood, this film makes me sad, angry and a little bit sick. There was a ton of directions the could have gone. The people who made this film understand nothing.
@ⅰи∂ㄩㄅ360 Yes, yes it was crap too. I SO agree!! I won't go into why but yes. But at least it didn't kill all my hope for the franchise. TLJ did just that. It killed all hope. I will only see the last one if I just happen to walk into a room that it just happens to being playing in. Even then, I might just leave. I could be on my death bed with only days to live and I still wouldn't care to know what happened. The only think that could pull me back would be Lucas getting the rights back and doing it over. But we all know there is no chance in hell of that.
@@scorchogrey2385 Be aware. Hollywood has been turned into a propaganda machine. The aims of the owners of Hollywood, the same cabal that owns the central banks and the mainstream media (elite, Zionist Jeωs); is to undermine white societies and attack the white male and family values. Luke Skywalker was a white male hero, so he had to be extinguished in peoples minds. He had to be replaced with colored people and females. The script writing instructions, from globalist elites, is deliberate and calculated. I don't mind the attack on Christianity, or the loosening of sexual morals by these elite Zionists. But the attack on the white male combined with the mass immigration of colored, lower average-IQ people and the Middle East wars ... they have gone to far with all that. For understanding the politics, recommend videos such as: 1. *Who Owns The Media?* - (search for dp9F3XumYQA) 2. *Who Owns The Federal Reserve Full by Brother Nathanael* (vFwwJJL-fLs) 3. *Central Banking Explained (satan's monetary control) Part 1 of 2* (a8GyHK8751s) 4. *ALL WARS ARE BANKERS' WARS* (lunSNY5B48)
One of my least favorite tropes is every hero that gets older no matter how kind, caring, or optimistic they were turns into the same jaded asshole as if all that happens when you get older is you become cynical and loose you ability to show kindness to anyone
It can be to you if you want it to be. Its a fictional world. You can just decide for yourself that this never happened. You can tell yourself that the EU books are real. Sure its not what Disney says but who cares. As far as Im concerned Disney Star Wars never happened. I used to read the EU books and I loved them .I was willing to give these movies a shot and replace the EU with an "official" timeline but theyve failed. Theyve been unmade in my eyes and I again think of the EU as real Star Wars.
The entire story-line to me seems like one massive missed opportunity. We should have been introduced from the very first shot to Luke's academy, with Ben and Rey in training. Here was Luke's chance to shine as a character, as we now get to see him as a wise teacher, and the galaxy at relative peace. It also removes all the Mary-Sue accusations which, let's face it, are not without accuracy. The story then becomes focused on Rey and Ben, and how they take different paths, and the tension between them. But it's also a chance to really get into the lore of the Force, Ben uncovering Sith teachings, being sold a relic in the form of Vader's broken helmet, and the feeling that it came to him for a reason. Palpatine holocron anyone? Then you can run off and do the whole "Gotta kill Han" thing to sever his past, and introduce the First Order later as an encroaching darkness coming out of the black reaches of space. Luke remains a teacher until it's absolutely necessary to use him to directly get involved, and then it should be done both sparingly, and in a way that he makes fans leap out of their damn seats in delight. It's called Star Wars, but there doesn't have to be a 'literal' war in every film, and it would have been better to lead into it so we can get to know the characters properly first instead of going from "Empire defeated" at the end of the OT to "Oh hai First Order" in the very first shot of the new one as if nothing had happened. Han and Leia should have been left in relative peace. Leia doing the political thing as a cameo, and Han perhaps still returning to his smuggling or working for the new Republic in a more clandestine fashion until Ben tracks him down to give Harrison what he wanted. 3P0 and R2 also should be left to be part characters. The story as is has too many characters, and spends time sloppily chasing down really baffling plot points or focusing on secondary characters. I like both Po and Finn, but a lot of the time they seem either too comedic or just surplus. Po's flying skills are just unreasonably perfect, taking down entire squadrons in seconds and single-handedly emasculating a dreadnought, while Finn is the other end of the spectrum, getting his ass handed to him by a desert scav. For someone who has been trained from childhood to be a soldier, he's near useless and spends most of the time either running from something or getting smacked about by it. Phasma was a waste of time, and to a large degree so was Snoke. It was always about the dynamic between Rey and Kylo, and for me that's what it should have stuck with. That's where the tension is, that's where the drama is. Luke should have been a rock of support, like Yoda was, like Obi-Wan was, and should have had his chance to be that wise, powerful yet restrained mentor, cautioning the impetuous students. But no, we ended up with Mary Sue and the grumpy hobo, and the comedy cast of dozens against the "just add water" Insta-Empire and their 'pulled it out of their asses' super-Deathstar. What a fucking travesty.
If only, that would have been an awesome beginning to a new trilogy. Showing respect and giving dignity to the original cast and very natural segue for the generation to carry on the story
Its ok, its based on what used to be Star Wars, think of it as an alternate reality Star Wars, just like alternate reality Doctor Who and Star Trek. Sometimes I think that the popularisation of nerd culture is what is killing it.
@@BorungBoyNerd Chic is what is killing nerd culture as studios now pander to the lowest common denominator rather than living up to the quality nerds demand
I’m just listening to this video for the first time, three years after it was posted. I’d like to add my own bitter two cents in: I was nine years old when I went with my family to see Star Wars in the summer of 1977. I have seen it many many times since then. Moat of my friends wanted to be the slightly “bad boy” Han Solo but I was lit up by Luke Skywalker for exactly the reasons you detail - hell, I even dressed up like him Halloween that year. Fucked if I can remember details of this past Monday, but some 45 years on now, the details of that day are enshrined in my memory because of the heart and soul stirring impact of the great film and it’s characters. That day is enshrined in my memory because of the heart and soul stirring impact of the great film and it’s characters. In contrast, only 5 years after going with my family to this much-hyped, much anticipated movie, I can barely remember any of the plot points or story moments you bring up. I can’t remember my family‘s reactions. I can’t even remember that one light “Luke tickles her hand pretending to be the Force” moment. Whether one is a fan or a hater of episodes I-IiI, (I fall in towards the latter end of that group) I at least generally remember them. But with this film, Ryan Johnson, Mark Hamill, and the “powers that be” managed to do something that should not have been possible: They spent $200m to craft a forgettable Star Wars film.
I am so sad to have to agree with the points made in this video, but agree I do, friend. I really think you're spot on in remarking that Hamill gives his all to this performance and that even his best effort can't save this movie because Johnson so clearly wanted to denigrate Luke. I mean even right down to his looks. Hamill looked great in that last shot of Force Awakens, he looks great in real life (working hard in recent years to get in shape for the part) and what does The Last Jedi do? Trades out the new jedi robes for a drab raincoat, gives him a sloppy haircut and a Duck Dynasty beard. Or they do the silly flashback scenes with the obvious hair and beard dye job. Hamill was the same age when they started filming this new trilogy as Alec Guiness was when shooting Star Wars - 62 - they could have just gone in that direction and so many of us would have LOVED IT. I expected this Luke to be reluctant and embittered, but I also expected Rey to be able to convince him to get back in the fight. The Luke I know would have done that. But don't take my word for it - just watch what Hamill himself said about that on the DVD documentary. It will be a Christmas miracle if Episode 9 can salvage this mess, and I'm not holding my breath. What a disservice to such a wonderful character and classic tale. Thanks, Critical Drinker, for giving voice to others who think like you and I do.
TLJ is so bad I refuse to watch 9. It's so terrible, I refuse to buy any new SW merchandise (I already have all the EU things I could want.) Until Kennedy is fired I'll never give Disney my money again.
I really hope Episode IX actually tanks at the box office like Solo did. Disney doesn't deserve this story and the company deserves to be punished for their insolence. But sadly, I think the next shitful movie is going to be a success. After Micky Rat heard every reasonable complaint about TLJ, his response was to tell us to collectively go F@@K ourselves. He called us sexist, racist and entitled. He discredited us at every opportunity feeling we would just suck off whatever project he threw at us next...until Solo tanked. Then the rat had the balls to publicly say that he's now going to listen to us...all because his ball of cheese was smaller than expected. So expect in Star Bores 9 to see Disney doing every bit of damage control in their playbook. They're going to attempt to minimize the Luke-rape that occurred along with every other wretched plot-hole they created. We'll likely see Luke back in some capacity...doing something major. We'll see Leia martyring herself...maybe together. We'll see Rey learning that she's really the child of some powerful figure. We'll get an explanation of how Kylo was able to off Snoke. We'll prolly learn something about Snoke's past. All of it will be an intentional design with the mouse begging, "Please, take us back...we literally spent billions on this franchise. Don't throw us away. We'll give ya what ya want...honest." They want to secure an endless number of sequels that they can capitalize on for decades. So sad.
"Are you F*ing kidding me!", I said the same thing when I saw Luke toss his light saber over his shoulder. That scene was the one that burned my Star Wars bull$hit fuse and turned me off as a fan. Not one more penny to this franchise until Kathleen Kennedy and Ryan Johnson are forever banished to the outer darkness of sitcoms and romcoms from whence they came. Then they have to bring Luke Skywalker master Jedi back. He must be allowed to do his John Wayne so he can die a hero the galaxy will always remember. Only then will l think about buying a another Star Wars DVD.
I laughted. Because it was something I didn't expected and I love suprises. Yes, everything else about him was bullshit, but I like this scene if I imagine it stands alone. (Also, I like the bloody snow. And that's all, I guess.)
It’s funny the first time but after you realize that you won’t see Luke again it makes you never want to see any new Star Wars movies again. I never watched the last one because of how they treated Luke and I honestly don’t like flawless characters
I love how people gave the prequels a hard time and yet they mesh so well with the original trilogy and respect the old films and characters. Whereas the Disney muck shits all over everything!
@oneraceonedestiny money isn't what makes everyone happy man. They destroyed something he loved and cared for with a passion and you're like: "but hey, atleast he got payed a lot" even tho he probably fell into a depression after this movie along with losing Carrie Fisher, "atleast he got some money out of this" That's definitely a stupid response and a retarded way of thinking
oneraceonedestiny Why can’t I feel sorry for both it’s there a limit that the rest of us don’t t know about? If so you might want to inform everyone else in the world.
@oneraceonedestiny if you wanna inform the rest of the world what's happening to the African kids that don't eat and get chopped up into bits and Syrian kids that have no legs then post that comment on one of those videos. Leave it out of star wars
Mark Hamill wasn't typecasted. He's said he always wanted to be a voice actor and was thrilled to make that his career. He has had much more success as a voice actor than he has on screen
@@nomadicone1085 But the difference is that hating men of colour is no longer acceptable (quite rightly), whereas hating WHITE men is now a fashionable badge of honour because they represent the 'toxic privileged patriarchy.' It is ignorant no matter who the target is - it's all bigotry and it's all wrong.
@@jackhammer0101, I'm as white as an Irishman, but with the features of an African(bone structure, wide nose, and my hair is always in knots; struggling between flowing locks and a curls for days.) My father is incredibly black, but my mother is white, with a slight tan(Romani Jewish); The Nine Divines blessed me at birth. Long story short, fuck these movies and all involved.
Rian Johnson: “Subverting Expectations” Listen to this beautiful piece of music I composed: [[Nothing]] Rian: see!!? I subverted your expectations. because I’m a creative genius!!!
The simple unadulturated truth is this: In time, the force awakens will be forgiven for it's trespasses. The last jedi will be hated with an abiding hate for ALL time.
Not by me it won't. As far as I'm concerned, this new trilogy is expensive Disney fanfiction. This isn't real Star Wars, nor will it ever be. It's possible it may have been good had J.J. Abrams been in control of the entire thing, but it's too late now.
For all we know, the outline for episode 8 that Johnson threw out might've been a blow-by-blow retread of The Empire Strikes Back, the way Force Awakens was to New Hope. I have no idea if it was a good or bad decision. But in trying so hard to be different, it abandoned what makes Star Wars what it is. As far as I'm concerned, these films aren't part of the story any more than the Robot Chicken sketches are.
@@iamayzil8105 I can't believe your trying to say that there wasn't anything else that could happen. Rian literally just went through everything possible and closed all the loose ends in the new trilogy in the worst possible way or pretended that some just didn't exist. There was so much set up in episode 7 but RIAN couldn't think of anything to do but kill the story.
After watching Mandolorian, they did Luke perfectly and whoever is running the show knows what they are doing for the fans. The sequel movies don't exist to me.
Star Wars Movies: The Phantom Menace Attack of the Clones Revenge of the Sith Rogue One A New Hope The Empire Strikes Back Return of the Jedi The Mandalorian
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 nope, not Filoni, it be Jon Faverou. Filoni is a woke weirdo fully invested in Kennedys vision. Though season 3 of Mandalorian has now shown that even Faverou has been got to. Star Wars is officially dead
@@samuelross9884 the prequels were disappointing for what wasn't there. There were elements that were good but the main point (Anakin's character development) takes place entirely off screen between episodes 1 and 2. Also, as much as episode 3 has some truly awesome scenes, the plot is absolutely retarded. Anakin fails to make a reasonable or rational decision throughout the entire movie. General Grievous is the stupidest villain ever. Ian McDermott carries everything with his spectacular performance as the emperor. I don't fault anyone for liking these movies but they could have been written so much better.
And the sad thing is that it didn't have to be this way. Hell, even though Disney fumbled the ball by not going with a new concept and falling back on making a soft-reboot of the first movie, there was still an opportunity to do something interesting with a sequel. But nope, Empire 2.0 are still just as powerful after the destruction of the Not-Death-Star as the Empire was in V. It's just so incredibly baffling - J.J. ended the story of 7 in a position where a story like Empire Strikes Back would naturally unfold, but he left enough new plot elements to progress the story in a new direction. And Rian Fucking Johnson took all the new plot threads, ran them off the road, and focused on taking the parts that people felt would be like Empire or Return of the Jedi and said, "Ha, dumb internet theorists, I'm rendering all of you wrong by doing NOTHING! HA! Don't you feel silly for being creative and having ideas?"
@@arandompasserby7940 OMG preach, brother! There were a lot of interesting plot threads in Force Awakens that could have made for a great new trilogy if explored but the entire point of TLJ seems to be to make a mockery of Force Awakens and abruptly destroy everything that made it interesting. FA: Who is this ancient and powerful Sith lord, Snoke who managed to build a new Empire in only a few years? TLJ: Who cares? He's dead. FA: What is Rei's lineage and why is she so powerful without training? TLJ: Nobody and I dunno. FA: Will we finally have the payoff of seeing Luke as a wizened old Jedi Master who much like Obi Wan, learned from his failures and taught others not to make his mistakes? TLJ: No, he's just a dumb asshole and a coward. FA: Poe and Finn are relatable, likeable, ballsy new characters who have a lot of potential. TLJ: Poe and Finn are boring Neanderthals who routinely get out-acted by cgi penguines. Rian Johnson must have done the same bad batch of coke as those two retards who ruined Game of Thrones.
Luke was a really good character in the original because he started off sort of low key relatable as a farm boy raised on a nobody planet and then became a warrior, kind of to say, if you work hard you can become strong and great like him even if you were raised as a nobody, but ray is: you are just born a badass
True but even Luke was not written well in the old Trilogy. As a Farmer Boy, together with a Smugler and an old Jedi raiding the biggest, most secured military base in the Universe? Then from a Farmer Boy, he became a Jedi within 6-12 Month that is equally skilled in Swordplay as one of the greatest Sith Lords only losing because of Vader overpowering him with the Force. But then 1 or 2 Years later coming back as a Jedi Master. Just wondering, how did luke master his sword skills without having several practice Partner? Magic? Luke is just like Rey a MarySue.
"And Daniel LaRusso decided to murder one of his students because he worried about him joining a different dojo" had to pause it and laugh so much, tears down my face. Brilliant stuff.
Legends Luke stayed true to the character from the original movies married a hot redhead Jedi babe, had a son and never lost hope even when the rest of the galaxy did. “Canon” Luke gave up when things got bad and hid away as a depressed old hermit. Screw you Rian
Funny thing is - you can have a former heroic charachter now given up on life but give them a redemption arc that satisfies and inspires your audience. Think king Theoden in LOTR - he's basically TLJ Luke (+ some magic brain damage) in the beginning of movie 2 but he swallows all his self guilt and goes in for another heroic ride in movie 3, even though he clearly regrets living his last XX years.
@@adonaimelles2317 that's an interesting POV. In this regard yeah, he does work. I just wish he had anything to do before some rando beats him up with his own lightsaber
The prequels were little more than Meh to me, when they came out. Compared to the sequels. . . the prequels are now somewhat akin to LOTR (movies, not books).
@Grapthar's Hebrew Hammer Yeah what a weird comment all together. The original post said nothing about the prequels and it never made any comparisons. Maybe they replied to the wrong comment on accident?
It takes years and years of study and practice to learn all the forms of lightsaber combat let alone master them. Also the many uses of force manipulation. But rey defeats kylo after sparring with a boulder. Even finn a nobody storm trooper deserter holds his own against kylo. Kylo a guy who’s been training since he was a kid. Seriously?
I used to think the same way, but the facts are: Kylo was emotionally distraught from just killing Han, and he had just been shot in the hip by Chewbacca with a Bowcaster. It's a wonder that he was even still standing, let alone fighting. In The Rise of Skywalker, Kylo is shown to be decisively more powerful than Rey, which is as it should be.
@@briansheehan3430 while i agree with that i also still say there is trained and untrained. Get into a boxing ring or ufc circle with any pro even when their tired and injured. It would be like me at 38 fighting my 12 year old and not only him landing a hit on me but also injuring me. The drinker said on another video rey could have easily been fixed. Have her tap into the force and keep Kylo at bay. When he goes to kill her the ground splits open and they escape. That lets her in 8 feel fear and doubt and let her struggle with new powers like Luke did in empire. So shit feels earned. Even in ROS Kylo is beating her and it's literally there for a way to kill Leia because Kylo does literally nothing against Palpatine and of course Rey has to fight him alone and be the new chosen one lol
@@briansheehan3430 i mean i have no issues with rey being good or powerful. But the drinker has showcased other films and shown other non mary sue characters. Great example is Uma in Kill Bill. Christ watch her arc. Also watch the Drinker review the Witcher and comment on Yennifer vs Rey. It's not even a god dam comparison lol. Supergirl does this shit all the time. Superman is literally there as a joke and whenever he's on screen next to her he's constantly getting his ass kicked and losing. He even says the world doesn't need him anymore because she's so much stronger then he is. Lmao yeah sounds like classic Clark Kent
@@christopheredwards5337 Oh of course, my personal favorite female protagonist, other than The Bride, is Furiosa from Mad Max. Rey is just an unconvincing character, and it breaks the immersion by how obvious it is that she was written that way. She has no character development and no personality.
It comes down to one thing - "the force is female". I lay blame for this travesty squarely at the foot of Kathleen Kennedy who had no intention of doing honor to any of the original male characters. She is why Rian Johnson was hired, and likely she is the one who gave him his marching orders. The goal is to do away with the white male characters and them not having any sort of real legacy, but to die simpering and weak like the toxic males that they are being made out to be. One question I have. How would it be received by feminists if instead of Luke we had a female Jedi, maybe an aged Ahsoka Tano, and the so-called padawan a white male who wouldn't leave her alone after multiple attempts on her part that she wants to be left alone. I imagine we'd get weeks of outrage in mainstream media. But since it's a white male being endlessly and mercilessly harassed, it's OK, because reasons. A big aspect of the pointlessness of TLJ is that Rey had nothing to learn from Luke. I'm not even sure why she went there. She automatically had all the skills exceeding a master Jedi, and had the force ability also exceeding the Chosen One. So why was she there exactly? What, as a foil to prove how a strong female can outdo any male any day of the week no matter the circumstances or who the individuals are? Yea, that's it. I'm really glad I didn't waste money on this movie. I probably won't even watch IX even on streaming service, my time is too valuable for that.
Rey went there in The Force Awakens because she had the completed map to Luke Skywalker and would bring him back to the Resistance because he went "missing". Since Rian Johnson completely fucked everything up in The Last Jedi by saying Luke really went there to die, her original purpose of going there was destroyed as well. So she basically went there for nothing because he never left the planet at all and died on it!
And don't forget Poe's character arc that was terrible and made no sense. The only thing I got out of that arc is "when things get hairy, run away from the the danger, but women are always right. Even when they REFUSE to tell you what their plan is in a dire situation, they're right"
@@UCB6XqwdQhRiubGeKU23undA: Agree with you. And that was also a huge failure to develop both characters. Let's imagine for example that instead of bullying a weak Luke into complying with her own views, Rey would just tell him : "you don't believe anymore into the Jedi Order ? Well, I am. So, goodbye, I'll stand and create my own Jedi Order. Oh and mind if I borrow those books to you ? After all, since you don't believe anymore in them, that's ok, am I right ?" That would have been interesting, at least.
Wow, well said. The most brutally accurate synopsis of the defamation of Luke Skywalker's character to date. And I have to say the Scottish accent makes it even better, grittier, stronger somehow
Hamill will always be remembered as being great as Luke Skywalker. Nobody will talk about this piece of utter crap movie in years to come apart from how terrible it is.
You explained how and why Luke Skywalker was utterly destroyed to great character and detail than Star Wars Explained ever could. Splendid job, mate!👏🏻
Mark didnt and couldnt walk away, Mark Hamill has not had the career { and I honestly dont know why, he is a superb actor and loved real person}of Harrison Ford, Harrison got the big money, yes he is the bigger star but in a SW film there is no one more important than Mark playing Luke. We should have ALL got behind him and showed these film companies that he should have recieved the same as Harrison {and Carrie also} God knows they made enough money for this franchise
He was typecast, so acting roles were difficult. I'm happy that he found success in cartoon voiceover work and he said in an old interview he paid his house off before A New Hope, so he doesn't need the money.
It's not just what they did to the character of Luke for their shit story, it is - as you say - what they also did to Mark Hamill. He understood the character and was summarily ignored.
To be fair, Mark hated that Luke cut the arm off the Wampa, even though he'd used womp rats as target practice, and it was about to maul him to death, so he wasn't always right about the character. That said, even in his mistakes he's more insightful than Rian.
It’s not just Luke, Rian destroys every single character within their first 5 minutes on screen. Especially Hux and Kylo REN, they went from formidable to pitiful in record time.
@@furioussherman7265 true, he never was a formidable villain, he was the protagonist. going from a flawed character to eventually overcoming those flaws to defeat the villain at the end of the trilogy made him the star of the show.
@@josephnewsome2935 i blame abrams, rian and kennedy since all three knew they were making a trilogy but didn´t plan anything and more or less had "freedom" to create the plot they wanted
only hux and ren were never formidable. ren was an emo teen throwing a temper tantrum and losing lasersword fights against untrained people, and hux was loud screaming nothing else
You'd think after Luke trained so hard and destroyed the Death Star, while having gone toe to toe with Vader, his father and getting rid of Palpetine would have made him into a hardened, knowledgeable jedi like he was always meant to be and continue on his training to keep the balance in the force as he was the last jedi they knew about. NAW, let's just turn him into some grouchy old man who has no ambition, forsakes his past accomplishments and casts himself aside never to be seen again hiding on some island wanting no part in what he stands for lol. Then let's have Rey defeat him with ease!
I feel bad for Hamill. This was his last time to shine as Luke. Seems he really cares about the fans and the series and feels his character let them down.
I wonder if he is aware of his legends version of him and how badass he is in it. Might bring some peace of mind to me that is universe A and the new shit is just some alternate thing.
popo129 I'd be surprised if he wasn't aware. I also agree, everything before Disney is canon
he's in ep 9
@@meb8839 I'm don't know the books / comics / etc., however, I'll always treat that as "real" versus the bullshit that has come out in recent years.... Let Disney have "Coke 2"..... fuck those guys....
Majin Mudkip He has to be a force ghost though. At least he contradicted the light saber throw.
The whole original trilogy has been made redundant by the disney movies. The characters in the original trilogy accomplished nothing. The empire did not fall, just rebranded. The Jedi did not return. The rebels just continued to be rebels living on forest moons for the next 35 years. Nothing changed or evolved. The disney movies lack any courage or creativity. They just want to rehash the original movies but with a girl in the lead and hope nostalgia draws in the audience.
I think you've nailed exactly why the new movies are so horrible, and why they are such abysmal failures.
Fans of Star Wars (the true fans, that is), experienced something with the original trilogy. There was a feeling of threat, risk and finally...reward. The Empire had been defeated, the Jedi were re-established as - basically - guardian knights of the galaxy, and everything was going to be better.
But no...the new movies spit in the face of the sacrifice, hopes and dreams of the originals, and simply re-hash, reboot, and drag out what was already done, as though the originals never existed.
"The empire did not fall, just rebranded". Well this is also how it works in real life too.
Here's another log to throw on the fire of how bad Disney has destroyed Lucas's Star Wars. From the time, in the time line, that Revenge of the Sith ends until TFA starts is only about 50 at most. We know for certain Chewbacca has been alive the whole time and there's a good chance many other people are as well. My point being, there should still be a decent number of people around who knew what life was like before the Empire existed. It isn't even until New Hope, roughly 20 in, that the Senate is finally dissolved.
I look at the new movies as bad fan fiction, with the EU books as canon. To hell with what Disney says.
The Empire returning was part of George Lucas' plan for ST as well. I agree the whole thing has been badly handled by Disney and Lucasfilm, but something that size was never just going to go away. Indeed, if anything I suspect the conflict between The New Republic and the still vast remains of the Empire in Lucas' ST, may well have been bigger and badder than ever.
Luke deserved better, Han deserved better, Star Wars deserved better, and me a million + other nerds deserved better.
Aye, we did indeed.
I was never a huge Star Wars fan but yeah- you just can't beat the original trilogy. All the newer movies have been let downs.
At least Han was killed before they could ruin his character as well.
Of course, but Disney doesnt have to make an effort for the nerds, they just wanna make sure they can sell stuff to more people. Disney is a company with shareholders, optimizing everything for the best quarter revenues. The movie still made more than a billion, and they made a fortune in licensing and toys (btw, it's easier to sell a Rey figurine than a old Luke Skywalker figurine...)
And the twat who directed TLJ can't take fucking criticism and had been told by Mark fucking hammil that he had written Luke wrong
I’m sorry, I agree with you about Luke but not Han. They assassinated him too. He became a deadbeat dad and husband who receded back into his smuggler ways rather than maintaining how he developed as a character in the OT. All the original characters are outshined by Rey being inexplicably perfect at everything. Just awful
Agreed. Han still has more fun than Luke though. Which isn't saying much.
I seem to recall a certain "General Solo" in ROTJ. What the hell happened?
I agree with you. A least Han got to have a great adventure and some funny moments. But the idea of him abandoning everything he loved dearly (especially Leia) and returning to smuggling? We watched his character grow from a cocky, self-centred smuggler who only looked out for himself (and maybe Chewie), to a man willing to give his life to help his friends and do what was right. In the swipe of a pen, they erased all of that wonderful character development from the original trilogy. I blame it on very lazy writing, The Force Awakens is just a recycled retread of the first Start Wars film.
It's unfortunate to see Han regress back to his rogue lifestyle, but at least I can believe it's Han. There's no way that cynical, paranoid bum we see in the Last Jedi is Luke Skywalker.
To see Han Solo as a father suffering from loosing his son to the one thing his best friend swore to defeat would’ve been a compelling acting for Harrison Ford and the audience! Star Wars is dead…
The world: "YAAAY Luke is back!!!"
Disney: *kicks the world in the balls* HOW AWESOME WAS THAT???
The world: "Not cool asswipe."
Disney: "MISOGYNISTS!!!"
Take my like
Hollywood has been turned into a propaganda machine. The aims of the owners of Hollywood, the same cabal that owns the central banks and the mainstream media (elite, Zionist Jeωs); is to undermine white societies and attack the white male and family values.
Luke Skywalker was a white male hero, so he had to be extinguished in peoples minds. He had to be replaced with colored people and females.
The script writing instructions, from globalist elites, is deliberate and calculated.
I don't mind the attack on Christianity, or the loosening of sexual morals by these elite Zionists. But the attack on the white male combined with the mass immigration of colored, lower average-IQ people and the Middle East wars ... they have gone to far with all that.
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Some masochists this winter: "Take my money and give me another one!!!"
@@harryseldon6712 so on point. The awakening is coming friend
When they make the Despecialized version it will just be a blank screen.
Luke throwing away his own weapon for a cheap laugh summarises the entire sequal trilogy for me.
A joke you can’t even laugh at
It’s just proof that wasn’t the Luke and this whole series was fake. The Luke we know from the prequels wouldn’t have done that. Proving this is not canon.
It's something you'd have expected to see in a Robot Chicken episode
There's a huge possibility that they only decided to ruin Star Wars on purpose.
Lately, in video games as in movies, the only thing they care about is having a woman as first character and show how strong she is. Also bring some more SJW stuff and that's it.
@@sebastienj.c.218 like rey in the movies, if you want strong female character, use ashokha.
Even Mark Hamill himself said he hated this version of Luke Skywalker.
Hes also contradicted himself dozens of times.
But I really hope your right
And it's all in the script, including the butthurt fanboy's angry reaction.
@@duderama6750 You mean how all of this is being used as a distraction from more important issues?
He warned us. All the press conferences up until the release of the movie.
One of the main problems, among many others, I had with the sequels was that Han abandoned Leia.
Me too. I could never see him doing that. They basically took the Han from the first half of the original Star Wars and plopped him into The Force Awakens without any of the hard-earned character develop from the rest of the original trilogy.
That alone is a reason why the Expanded Universe is in every aspect superior to the Disney crap.
I saw a great video that said that the problem with putting old characters at the beginning of their character arc again is that their victories become their failures.
@@pigwhaleg Makes sense.
Right, i hate how he went back to being that selfish smuggler he first was in A new hope. Really undid all that development
Luke in the OT: _Even though I've grown past the naivete of my youth, I still believe that forces of evil can be brought back to the light. In fact, I_ know _this, as my father Darth Vader was ultimately redeemed. I was ready to die instead of killing him; I refuse to follow a dark path as he once did._
Luke in TLJ: _I'm going to murder my nephew in his sleep because I'm worried he might do something bad at some point in the future._
Luke in the OT: _Even though I'm putting myself at great risk by battling enemies that surely overpower me, I will always fight to save my friends and bring peace to the galaxy. I'm physically and emotionally battered, but I will never give up._
Luke in TLJ: _My own mistakes are causing great suffering to the galaxy and the people I love. Evil is rising because of a misunderstanding I inexplicably created. I'm going to hide on a remote island and wait for death. When someone comes around in the hope of making things right, I'll tell them to fuck off and continue to refuse to do what heroes should do._
Fuck this movie
@@maelstrom2313 Please do not politicise a discussion about fictional characters, this is not welcome. Lucasfilm brought enough social issues into the movies already.
@@thisisfyne Lol, OK have it your way buddy.
@@maelstrom2313 Thanks mate :)
Now to be fair, the second point is partly on JJ Abrams. Rian is certainly the worse of the two, but JJ was the one that chose to send Luke to the middle of nowhere to hide as the galaxy crumbles from yet another war.
He chose to let his friends do all the fighting rather than join them.
Again, don't get me wrong, Johnson is the greater aggressor here, but JJ set him up with some out of character choices.
Honestly I'm just saddened we didn't get to see the 3 of them in the Millenium Falcon together one last time
@@wilsonram39 Hmm.. I wonder though, doesn't Ep 7 just tell us that Luke has vanished and part of the plot is finding the map that leads to him? Or does the movie _actually_ say he purposefully went there to hide? Thinking about it, I don't think Ep7 ends with the viewer knowing _why_ Luke was on the island.
For all we knew back then, he could have been stuck there against his will or on a quest of his own to battle the First Order...
Rian Johnson makes me miss Jar-Jar Binks and Anakin's whinings about sand.
at least the prequels are memeable and enjoyable as there is an actual story, the new trilogy started with some potential but was absolutely robbed of any meaning from this movie
The pre-quels were, in retrospect no that bad. Not bad att all actually. J-J Binks was a pain, but as the movies went on there were alot less of him, and the story they told was a good story, disregarding some of the love story C-plot.
Let´s face it, Episode I-III were good movies whit problems. Disney Star Wars is garbage whit good moments. I liked how Anakin´s lightsabre in episode VII had a "memory" of sorts, for example. It´s, on the whole, a piece of shit ( when taking "The Last Jedi" in to accounts ) but that moment I liked.
at least the stories were good.
I don't like Disney. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
...no. No you don't. Seriously, Last Jedi was bad, but you can always say: At least it's not the prequels.
Luke in Empire Strikes Back: _"I'm going to go fight Vader to save my friends, even though I know I'm not fully trained and will almost certainly die in the process."_
Luke in Return of the Jedi: _"I'm going to go save Vader from the Dark Side even though I know he's one of the most dangerous and evil men in the galaxy."_
Luke in The Last Jedi: _"I'm going to murder my nephew in his sleep because I'm worried he might do something bad at some point in the future."_
Makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
@@VaderPopsVicodin10 I'm just wondering how badly Mark Hamill must have been in debt in order agree to play Luke and butcher the character so badly. You'd think he'd just refuse to do it
Disney / JJ Boredoms is just so full of asswipe writers it stuns ... I am through with Star Wars. Episode 8 is NOT canon.
Luke finally grew up and realized that the Jedi dream was a lie and a failure. It's called 'perspective' and there is literally no excuse for failure to understand his motivations as the viewer, considering the fact that he clearly states them. You simply disagree with him. Wah.
I hope Ryan Johnson is reading these comments.
@@WakeUpEternals exactly how are you drawing a comparison between Luke and Hitler?
Years later, still sad about this. Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy still have careers is unbelievable
I include myself in this statement, but we need to learn to vote with our wallets, I'm only gonna pirate the next star wars properties
@@lightningmonky7674 don't even bother. Why put yourself through that torture?
@@trevorthornley8835 i hear you man, I actually abstained from watching the Ashoka series, it looked so low budget and it was obvious from the clips I've seen they were trying to fill in as much dead air as possible due to the writer strike at the time, so they took the lazy way out instead of paying their writers their actual worth. And to be honest the future star wars shows/movies aren't looking that mind blowing either, so I may take your advice
@@lightningmonky7674 that's the best way to describe these shows and movies. It's just killing time.
Back when 'Last Jedi' had premiered, I remember reading a user review/comment on Imdb by a guy who as he said was seriously ill probably terminally, and was a big long-time fan. He described how pumped he was before episode 8, as he couldn't wait to see it, especially Luke, and he was going on race against time as it was one of his last wishes to see Luke again as a Jedi master. Then he described how when he went to the theater (with difficulty because of his illness), and saw the movie, it just broke his heart so bad, how it depressed him, and then he felt his extreme sadness actually worsen his health. He didn't express anger or hate on his comment, but you could tell how genuinely wrecked inside he was and how deeply disappointed. It was so heartbreaking for me to read this. I don't know what happened to the guy, but bless him wherever he is... When I read his comment, episode 8 disgusted me even more.
Now, when I hear people say, "hey I loved the Last Jedi", "I think Luke was perfect in Last Jedi", and so on, I think about this guy's wrecked soul and I get upset. It is revolting to me, when someone says they get pleasure out of seeing Luke toss his legendary father's lightsaber in a parody fashion, milk a seacow's tit and drinking green milk in a disgusting manner, or him whining for a whole movie, and dying from a heart attack, all alone on a rock, and describe this as "perfect". It's so disrespectful to all the people that loved this character, It just sickens me. I think of this pure fan, who had a wish before he died, the same wish as millions and millions of other fans, to see their beloved character 'Luke' again as a beacon of hope, as a wise and powerful Jedi Master, only to have that judicious wish destroyed by some guy called Rian Johnson. And now this honest Star Wars fan probably has left this world with a wrecked soul. How disrespectful this movie was to all the people who cherished this mythos, this character, how this movie literally trolled these people. This is what episode 8 did. It broke people's hearts. It depressed them, it destroyed everything beloved by millions of people. What they did with this movie, is, and will always be, unforgivable.
Yes! This!
Episode 7? You mean 8
Wow
That is a sad story about a dying person no doubt, also sad that someone would take the time to write a book about a Movie with fictional people
No doubt someone will say he was a "fan Boy" and it was only a movie well no, it was important to me, to you and to this man. They actually said "this film was not about us"? who do they think paid for all of it. I will not give them another penny after being treated this way and your story of that poor guy will make me even more determined, well written
The points made here are valid but since you think the movie isn't good, you must be a manbaby.
Make no mistake, Kennedy intentionally turned Han into a deadbeat father who abandons his family, Luke into a loser whose entire legacy was just bravado, and leia into the matriarch.
This woman has real issues.
I think being a cultural Marxist infiltrator was her issue. But then this path started with JJ Abrams and his dislike of white actors.
@@android584 "cultural Marxist" is a meaningless term, dude. Turn off the Jordan Peterson.
And that's why the Disney trilogy doesn't exist in my opinion.
@@haraldisdead Even Dave Cullen doesn't use the term anymore, but it's a dated expression invented by liberals desperate to seperate themselves from the subversive commies that Yuri warned us about.
It sounds like I need to know more
"I don't like Star Wars" is now a socially acceptable statement
sad
ieo facts if you said that before you would be bullied for the rest of you’re life
I don't like the NEW star wars. Your still obligated to like the old ones.
I _love_ Star Wars.
This new Disney-funded shit is _not_ Star Wars.
@@KalibreSteelblast Babylon 5 is better by far :)
Mark Hamill did a lot of voice over work from my understanding. The fact that Carrie, Mark and even Harrison came back after 40 years to do the movies was something every star wars fan was so looking forward to. What they did to all of these characters just basically said "if you are old you are useless." People are living longer and Disney should of embraced an older generation as well. Yoda was kicking butt being centuries old and obi wan in the last hope was no push over either.
Yes, Obi Wan still had wisdom to pass on in the original Star Wars. He wasn't a broken flaccid shell of a man.
"...if you are old you are useless." Well, that's definitely true for real human beings.
@@neilsun2521This despite the fact that he had lost, while Luke had won.
Disney: *Destroys the Expanded Universe*
Also Disney: "We don't have any materials to work with."
Legends treats the characters better than Disney's canon.
Not even JarJar was safe from disney. He became a street entertainer beloved by children and hated by adults.
@@Jack-uy7ie
To be fair, who really gives a shit about Jar Jar?
I could not believe it when I first saw the interview when Kennedy spouted this abominable nonsense.
That's like getting hired to expand a house for a customer and burning it down first thing in the morning of the first day of construction - and then telling the customer: "We have to build an entirely new house from the ground; we don't _have_ a house to expand like you wanted. Btw, the bill might be slightly higher than projected. Also, the new house might be a piece of shit because we don't give a fuck about how you liked your old house. And if you should dare complain about this, we will call you a racist, patriarchal misogynist, so think hard about what you are going to say next, asshole."
Seriously like WTF I remember when Kennedy said that at first I couldn’t say anything. Immediately followed up by a 10 minute rant.
Most disappointing movie of all time. let's not forget they also turned Princess Leia into superman.
I thought that when she got sucked out into space that would have been the end of it, and it would have been a good end... but they had to fuck it up (because empowering female characters with the power of space flight to the detriment of your entire franchise is more important).
Space Mary Poppins.
@@real_fjcalabrese But I think that title is taken, already (*cough cough* Guardians of the Galaxy)
Mary Poppins
I'm trying hard to forget! I saw it once and hated it!
Kathleen Kennedy: How can we loose at least half of our fans?
Rian Johnson: Hold my beer!
Hold my green milk squeezed out of some weird creature's nipple, don't you mean?😂
@@RandomUploads-ch3bh After I saw that scene I swore to never see it again .... then I saw it on this video 🤢.
More like "Hold my soy milk"
No no no... if you think she didn’t say to him “pssst... make the force female” you’re bonkers
He drinks Fresca bro
I've been watching your videos for a few weeks now and this older one came up. I've never heard sadness in your voice before. It's not in any of your newer stuff. This one really hurt, didn't it? I know it hurt me. I was born in '76 and grew up with Star Wars being my favorite thing. Luke was definitely a hero of mine. Rion Johnson destroyed a part of me I thought was impossible to destroy. He did that to all of us. Given everything we've learned about the people in control of this new wave of entertainment, I think it was done on purpose. Men are hated so much by these people that they're willing to deprive boys of growing up with heroes just to hurt them
Yeah, you can hear the pain in the Drinker's voice. He still regularly takes shots at TLJ and Rian, so it definitely left a scar.
same feeling
Mark Hamill DID move on, he’s done a shit ton of voice acting and is one of the best Jokers in DC history
Besides Joker he isn't known for much. Luke is still his and the drinker pointed out he's been the most interactive with the fans in conventions and on social media.
He hasn't done much film wise. When you think Hamill you think Luke.
Christopher Edwards - I agree. His investment in the character and engagement with fans is pretty remarkable.
@@christopheredwards5337 When you think Harrison Ford you think Han Solo. Indiana Jones. The President of the United States
Why did he not do the joker movie? Did he even audition?
I highly recommend you check out Metalocalypyse for some great Hamill voice work. As long as insane violence in cartoon form doesn't offend you hahaha
I feel so bad for Mark Hamill. He was obviously so excited to be back at first, and so sad and disappointed once TLJ came out
I don't think these virtue signallers care about what people think of them. They are just there for the money.
I’m sure he was crying all the way to the bank.
You are right. The 3 installments should of been a new generation meeting the characters of Luke, Leia, Han etc.. with Rey being under training with Luke. Luke, Leia and Han should of been still vital characters. Yoda and Obi Wan were still kicking butt so this would of not been a problem for the characters. Disney basically said "If you are old you are useless and don't deserve to live." People are living longer now and they completely missed the mark.
And what’s sad is that even though mark hamill didn’t like the script, he was contractually obligated to follow through with the role.
Hey Mark, are you done with Star Wars? I sure hope so. Enough said...
The sadest is, as it's said, Mark Hamill seems to be a real nice person, he didn't deserve to be humiliated this way!
Adding the passing of Carrie Fisher and Peter Mayhew, sad ending!
@Heyward Shepherd No. He fucking HATED this movie, and technically he had to
He's actually a douche. He's a far leftist who constantly gets into Twitter flame wars with people and belittles anyone with different opinions than him.
@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath you are clearly mistaken for Rian Johnson
@Crunch Bandicoot Nope, check out Mark Hamill’s Twitter. Really sad.
@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath actually, they PAID him and TOLD him to say "sorry." He knew it was shit. He knew it would be terrible and it would ruin Luke. Please do your research.
It wasn't enough to kill our heroes, Luke, Leia and Han, they had to destroy them first. Luke did not become a great Jedi master who reinvented the order. Leia did not become a wise states woman leading a peaceful Republic. Han did not become a wealthy businessman with a feet of ships.
They all became old, tried shit. Disney had to kill all that in the name of cheap drama.
So, yes, the Star Wars story ended in triumph after Return of the Jedi (and the Timothy Zahn books.) Disney was bitter, jealous fanfic of a hateful franchise.
These last 3 movies didn't exist.
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@@CheersDits2979 The prequels were brilliant.
@@briansheehan3430
let's not go that far... I'd sum them up as poorly executed movies with great ideas, worldbuilding and narratives (for the most part).
@@MrCastleburger the sequels, make the prequels Down Right *Miraculous* cinema
Mjolnirs Power
Yeah
"Why is your head shaped like a f***ing soccer ball?!?"
I died.
@@TheConservativeCrusader Don't be ridiculous. Ghosts can't type. I manipulated the electrical currents of my laptop's keys with my ghost powers to make the characters appear on screen as if I had typed them. I figured people needed to know how dangerously funny that comment was so they didn't encounter the same fate as I.
The simple answer why his head is shaped like a soccer ball is because he is in a critical need of a shockabuku
So we can kick it
@@highlanderc I'd be the first one to volunteer.
Because is full of air
Repeat after me: Jedis only kill as a last resort! No way Luke would have even thought about killing Kylo in his sleep. No way in hell.
Then what's with the limb severing laser swords they carry? Those don't seem very non lethal and even then, the enemy is down a hand. Or two.
@Tim Hanselbach
A) dont they have less than lethal settings for stun and such? Yet they never seem to use them.
B) dont blasters also have stun settings as well? So couldnt jedi still use them for less then lethal?
In Attack of Clones, Jedi kill as a first resort. Go back its right there.
@@adams13245 They do in the original Star Wars / A New Hope.
Unless...
*_dew it_*
No one will likely ever read this but I have to write it anyway. I will never forget as a teenager in the theater finally getting to see Luke as a real bad-ass Jedi in Return of the Jedi. It was the evolution of his character we had all been waiting for, and at the conclusion of the scene on Jabba's barge I literally jumped up from my seat and whooped with joy. By the end of the film, Luke is truly the savior of the galaxy and his story would undoubtably become legend.
Then the Last Jedi happens.
I sat in the theater anxiously awaiting the return of Luke, the seasoned Jedi Master who would like an aging gunslinger once more pick up his lightsaber and put his life on the line to save the day. The utter despair and disappointment of what this movie did to arguably the franchises most important character and undeniably its heart and soul was the equivalent of a curb stomp to my childhood hero and to Luke's legacy in the Star Wars cannon forever. Luke was treated with such disrespect and indifference to his character and its development through the original trilogy that it would have been better had they not even included him in the sequels. Congratulations J&K, you have made the world a little bit more depressing by diminishing what was once a symbol of good over evil and a light in the darkness. Thanks for that.
I've seen soooo many analyses on TLJ. You would think that people would run out of criticisms or deconstructions or plotholes but no. Yours is a welcomed voice. I have never, never, never in my life heard so MANY poingiant, striking, well thought out, thorough, and downright ingenious critiques of ANY other film than I have of this one. It just goes to show you how deeply this movie wounded so many, how disrespectful it was, and how much these characters were loved. Ruminations like these don't come from just seeing a bad movie, they come from some place much deeper. There is NOTHING close to the complexity of emotion and psychology that goes into these critiques on the side of those who defend this movie. I've been done with Star Wars for quite some time, but I am just starting to realize that the damage this movie has done will be spoken of passionately for decades to come.
Zermelo I made an entire playlist of these kinds of critiques for therapy
Agree 100%. I felt so empty inside after watching TLJ. It was a painfull experience
This is up there with the best critiques of this film. It should have more views!!
Spread it far and wide. I am.
Imagine it this way: in 2040, they announce a new Harry Potter film, and excitedly report that the entire original cast is returning. But the original characters are nothing like their original selves, in demeanor or actions, and Harry, Ron, and Hermione never once all share the screen together.
That's what we were given with the sequel trilogy. Characters who are distorted from their former selves, and we never once see Luke, Leia, and Han together; this fact appeared to upset Mark Hamill, as he's mentioned it a few times.
The chance of a lifetime. Shot.
"But the original characters are nothing like their original selves, in demeanor or actions" - already got that in Cursed Child
@@antonmarkin9491 For sure.
That's how I fell thanks sequels you killed of the orginal cast
Vellichor, so the Cursed Child?
And now it's not even possible for the three to share the screen together again, because Carrie Fisher is gone... =(
I doubt anyone will see this comment on a 4-year-old video, but I wanted to say that I was not just upset by what Disney did to Luke and Han, but also by what they did to Leia. The end of the original trilogy implied that Leia would learn to use the force and become a Jedi. Disney Leia is so disappointing to me.
Disney Star Wars is complete trash. The only cool thing is modern day special effects in some parts.
Entirely agreed! Leia failing to use the force and then that idiotic Mary Poppins scene... they're travesties against the original character. The whole movie is.
I think even in the extended universe she didn’t become a Jedi. All of her children did though. And her oldest son did turn to the dark side. Those were actually a couple things Disney kept from the EU. I’m with you though. I always wanted to see Leia as a Jedi.
Not only did they kill Han and Leia; they aborted Jacen, Jaina and Anakin Solo. Good work, guys.
yup
Only way to save it is with the old literary trick: “it was all just a dream” and pick up the series with Star Wars X. Lol
Actually, I think it's best to consider these new Star Wars movies bad fan-fiction films that were produced by loathsome corporate shills.
more like a fucking nightmare
That's how Abrams should have started Episode IX! Then repeat Rey's arrival at the end of Ep. VII and soon after have him start training Rey.
Yes, PLEASE. The Disney trilogy turns out to be nothing more than a nasty fever dream that was induced when Luke accidentally mixed some Tatooine peyote into his stew.
Nice in theory, but what about the sadly departed?
Dude I'm not kidding when you talked about Luke at the end, as an actor I literally teared up. I experienced that myself in a smaller way and it totally broke my heart and Now I literally don't even recognize that " franchise " that I have represented in the past. I thought the same thing you did , , they hated having Luke Skywalker in that movie. Honestly man thank you for taking the time to see this actors heart. And I'd like to think that he has seen your video before and felt encouraged, where they made him feel lonely before. I don't know if you're the best writer in the world, but right now you are to me .
@@wadi_dog That was honestly the most british comment i've red in my entire life
Not in a negative way
Hamill Should have walked away. Rian Johnson needs to be excommunicated from film and maybe even this planet.
you are so right
I hate to say this but most actors are whores. Mark Hamill SHOULD have told them to go fuck themselves or rewrite the entire Luke Skywalker arc, but he saw that paycheck and showed up, milked a space walrus and acted like a complete twat. Hamill would have sucked a Wookie's cock while wearing a pink ballet skirt if they had told him to.
@sonoki82 I disagree. Mark Hamill was upset because Star Wars was not just a movie to him, it was his greatest legacy. He speaks about Skywalker as if he's a real person he knows well. This move undermines his most iconic role and as a bonus erases any chance of him being a part of any future Star Wars saga. That is not worth a few million.
@sonoki82 No, I agree about the contract and would like to believe that's the only reason he stayed. I still disagree however than he would have done it anyway, even for 20-30 million. Others have walked away from that kind of money before. The kind of person who would have taken the money anyway wouldn't risk his multi-million dollar contract to sabotage the film in public with his scathingly negative reviews even before it's released.
Hamill couldn't walk away. He's contractually bound - and let's be honest, he had no clue what would happen to his character from the offset. I'm sure back in the early 2010's he would have been happy to know he would once again be playing a beloved character of his, Luke Skywalker (you can tell he really loves what the character means to so many people) ... he couldn't have imagined it could have ever one day been THIS BAD.
12:06 The look on Hamill's face here say it all. In so many of those promotional pieces for Last Jedi he just looked like he was in one of those hostage videos and that Kathleen Kennedy was off-camera with a gun to his head. He looks so awkward, uncomfortable, and betrayed. It's the most tellingly awkward interview footage outside of those Endgame ones where Brie is going off on one, and her co-stars are sitting there with 'wtf' expressions on their facea.
reminded me very much of different interviews/ appearances of game of thrones actors when talking about season 8. even with all their acting skills they couldn´t hide their disappointment how their characters turned out in the end
I appreciate your disdain for Rian Johnson.
Sadly he's not that bad of a director in general as his recent movie knives out is pretty decent. I'd blame Kathleen for this mess but that's also mostly because Rian just probably nodded his head like a donkey whenever she says something dumb
@@ssk58607 He's a complete prick as a person from what I've seen though - constantly calling people man babies on twitter for complaining about the film and someone asked 'now that you've see the criticism and comments, can you appreciate or understand any of them' and he said no. How up your own arse do you have to be to not even consider that something might be wrong in something you've done. George said films would never get released if they weren't taken for release day because directors always see something they think they could do better or improve on
@@darthconquerus I usually don't care about what directors or actors do outside of movies but in general it's easier to hate the guy when he makes a terrible movie and more so when he's defending it so yeah sure. Zack Snyder called fans dumb when they wanted to see a batman that doesn't kill people lol he said be fucking realistic nd all to lifelong fans what do you think of that
@@ssk58607 I think the biggest problem is that johnson wasn't really familiarized with the world of star wars, of course when a studio pick a director or an actor for a role they are always gonna say "yeah i'm a huge fan of X thing" but he didn't get the meaning of practically anything, when luke threw away anakin's lightsaber I literally couldn't believe what I was watching, and that isn't "subverting expectations" is just incoherence on the narrative.
That's is the result of his believe that he is a kind of a genius or an artist or something like that. Is just a stupid arrogant.
I wanted to ask George Lucas what he thought about the last Jedi. So I tracked him down.
I found him on a 4-billion-dollar money island. He was living there as a recluse. Then I asked him about this movie, handing him a DVD of his OT. He just tossed it over his shoulder, said “fuck the Jedi” and told me it was time for the Jedi to end.
I then flew halfway across the galaxy to confront the roundheaded one, known as Swoke. But he just told me he thought all these characters were really funny. He just wanted to make a comedy for children with space wizards. But he got cut in half by man-child J.J. Ren.
But then it turned out the roundheaded one was just a clo(w)ne made by the evil empress Kennedine. Turns out she was behind it all from the beginning and had somehow survived this entire shit show. It had been her filling J.J. Ren’s head with all kinds of SJW voices, back since The Force Awokens. She had been the one pulling Swoke’s strings all along as well. And lo and behold, she was even the grand mother of movie death star MaRey Sue who had been specifically designed to kill the Star Wars Universe
lol this is actually better than the actual movie
This is genius
Spot on man, this is a very accurate summary.
Terribly underrated comment
I love this comment!😂
I've watched every Star Wars movie, even, "The Phantom Menace," numerous times. I watched TLJ once...and there won't be a second time.
I walked out the theater during the casino planet borefest.
Didnt see Solo.
Wont see anything other Disney fan fiction movies.
I loved Anakin's plight in Attack Of The Clones about hating sand. I hate sand too!
@@stevepalpatine2828 : I cant imagine why I didnt walk out of the theater?, I was really horrified and transfixed. When it was finaly all over everyone got up and silently walked out of the theater, in contrast when I saw Star Wars and the next two films everyone CLAPPED at the end,
I somehow enjoyed it on first viewing. On second viewing though, yikes.
I tried. I torrented it a few months ago and deleted that shit about 2mins in. I will not re-live that horror ever again.
I stood in line and saw "A New Hope" in a Manhattan theater when it first came out (I'm 64). I also went to see the next two films in the theater and it became a treasured part of my youth. But as far as I'm concerned, Star Wars ended years ago and I wouldn't watch "The Last Jedi" if it showed up on my TV.
Same, id rather watch paint dry
Wise decision.
Same here. I was seven years old when Star Wars came out. Saw it on the big screen four times. Since it was in theaters for fourteen months ! At that age, that felt like forever. Every time mother and I would drive past the local theater, for that whole time, I remember seeing it listed in the films showing. Every time, I would ask, when we could
go see it again. Then Empire Strikes Back came out, and my little world was rocked even more then the first film.
Then the prequel / sequel junk came and went. Never even bothered to see episodes 2, 8, or 9.
Everyone I spoke to said they were garbage. So I figured why waste my time and money. Never thought I'd feel that way. I still haven't seen them. Better things to do. Rogue One was good. Not great, but good. Solo was junk.
Saw it in French. Don't care to see it in English. We still have memories of the good times. At least we have that.
If Disney (specifically Kennedy) can declare the entire expanded universe non-canon, then we, the fans, can declare this insulting sequel trilogy non-canon.
Sure, we can never have the original actors again, and that hurts in a big way, but hopefully, eventually, someone with more love for the source material can make a proper sequel trilogy that will put Johnson and Kennedy to shame.
We have spoken.
This sounds like the beginning of a prophecy. The prophecy of the one who will return balance to the force by remaking the sequel trilogy as it should have been.
I agree! Honestly, I’ve been calling the entire trilogy non-canon, especially with their treatment of our favorite characters.
A prophecy that'll happen 100 years from now when Diz-Knee gives up the rights after they're done gentrifying and gender swapping it to the point it becomes Star Wars: The Return of the Ewoks, A Holiday Special. Hosted by Kathleen Kennedy on Diz-Knee Negative right after the Holly Hobbie Mid-Season Finale.
That'll be the sign to show the true fans that balance will soon be brought back.
@@ryanhutchins2634 Aggred
Mark Hamill is the only one i can see coming back. But even that might be pushing it
What baffles me, if Luke left behind a star map, he clearly wanted to be found at some point
Yeah, also Rey so fucking powerful would never need a starmap, wondering she didn't just point her hand somewhere and summoned Luke using Force from wherever he was, like Accio in Harry Potter.
My favorite part is their star map without the missing piece is like a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle and you're missing one piece. Why do you need to find the missing piece??? CLEARLY Luke is in the missing part.
I noticed that, too. It makes no sense.
Manbaby roundhead johnson kinda forgot to watch the movie he should continue...
That is JJ's fault. Rian just took what he was given. JJ put in the map idea.
agreed 100%. Luke was allegedly the most powerful Jedi of all time, reduced to a mangina
Right. The man who defeated Darth Vader lost to Rey and Kylo.
@@porridge57 losing to rey is bullshit in every way, losing to kylo would be a whole different thing if you think of obi-wan in a new hope.
letting the bad guy kill him so the "new hope" (luke respectively rey) would have a chance to grow in character and skill with the force.
but this projection bullshit made no sense whatsoever especially because rey obviously doesnt even need to grow, she was seemingly born with more power than anyone else in the fucking galaxy. seeing mark hamills face in some interviews really shows how heartbroken he is about his character and I think many fans of the series feel the same way.
its so bad you kinda begin to cherish the quality of the prequels, which says a lot I think.
I could never understand why - if Luke wanted to be alone and isolated because of his shame about what happened to his pupil - he left a detailed map of where to find him. How did they find the exact island where he was living, and how did Rey know exactly where to find him on that island?
JJ Abrams. His writing is just a series of plot conveniences (watch his Star Trek for further evidence, which i actually enjoy)
Why? Lazy, unimaginative and outright mentally limited writing. J.J. Abrams is a spineless tool.
As a wise man once said, "Don' know!!"
@@timwarneka5681 it's not just a problem with star wars. A lot of TV and film SF treats planets as though they're large villages.
All my friends told me not to see it.
Eventually I tried to watch it on Netflix,
When Luke threw his lightsaber I turned it off.
Then a month later I decided to continue.
When I saw him drinking green milk,
I stopped it again.
Then 2 months later...
I see Luke try to kill his nephew and,
I canceled Netflix...at least for awhile.
Damn it you, you just gave it a three viewing times! That's not how to not support a movie.
T Hakala oh. Well at least I didn't see it in theaters
Lol don't blame Netflix. The witcher is awesome!
Christopher Edwards
" Toss a coin for your witcher, oh valley of plenty"
Hells yeaaaaaaahhhhhhh!
On my 3rd watch!
I find it so funny that you cancelled Netflix. This Disney Star Wars stuff is just awful. It's the cancer of cinema. It's probably what bankrupted Toys R Us.
The thing is, Mark Hamill hates the new trilogy. They tricked him into signing a contract to act in all the movies, and had no choice once the producers were changed.
Mark HAS to work, this is his chance to earn BIG money, he should have always had the same fee {or more} that Harrison got, Harrison was already a huge star and incredibly wealthy. Mark and Carrie should have all been on the same money
Mark ain't hurting for money. He spent the better part of the last 25 years voicing the Joker and doing considerable amounts of other voice acting.
Gal Kononenko He does have much better intentions than Harrison Ford who literally only signed on to TFA if Han was killed.
Mark is an amazing actor, on screen and voice acting. Such a shame that this shit show is what people will remember him for, even though it's not even his fault.
@@bbolin5626 yeah well, you could call that a smart move in hindsight.
It was a terribly sad and unjustified end to an iconic character.
But “no ones ever really gone”...
One theory I have about Luke having no personality or 'balls' in this series is because Rey has no personality. She's supposed to be the protagonist, yet, since she's a mary sue, there's nothing to teach her. She doesn't need any 'growth', so what could Luke teach her? It's a vain metaphor for the young female generation stating that they don't need old white men telling/teaching them anything...
Except in this hijacked Star Wars fantasy world, it actually works out for her in every respect.
Hi! I live in a socialist/feminist country in Scandinavia. I was brought up here, and being a boy and then a man I have heard so much hate against me, since I don't follow their narrative. At Uni I was so bullied by other female Norwegian and female Swedish students and female Professors that I even considered suicide. I will also say that most of these women are man-hating in the closet lesbians or transgenders and I would call them soul-less and of course no personality or happiness in their life if you see my point how they act? Anyway, I am ok today, but had to change carrier where there were at least a 70/30 ratio of men/women at the workplace and the harassment against me stopped.
@Dr G
You poor fucking victim.
I fell so bad that you lacked the balls to stand up for yourself like men do.
It's sad that you are nothing but a victim.
Down the road not across the street.
Been a fan of Star Wars since I watched ANH in 1977 at the age of 13. I couldn't agree more with everything you said. Especially the last part about the fact that it can never be unmade. Heartbreaking to be a fan right now. The people who made and really enjoyed this film must have extremely low expectations.
We can always just pretend that anything that isn't from George Lucas is just the most expensive fan fiction ever created.
There's no character development. Rey seems to have no flaws. In the prequels and originals we saw the imperfections of Anakin and Luke and even Kenobi
@@samueljohnson9723 Notice how in the movie all the men were flawed and the women were perfect?
@@savagepug It is because SJWs and feminists have infected Star Wars at the hands of Kathleen Kennedy.
In 77 it was just Star Wars. Don't drink the blue koolaid.
My wife and her cousin (stuck here with us due to quarantine) decided to watch the entire Star Wars series (the nine movies from the main story line) the other day. They had never seen them and watched them in chronological order.
With no expectations, nostalgia or memory of the original trilogy in the way, they enjoyed the prequels. The original trilogy took them a bit of getting used to the dated special effects, but ultimately they loved the story line. At the end of Return of the Jedi my wife asked me why they made the sequels. Didn’t the story conclude perfectly and where were they going to go from here?
They then started watching The Force Awakens and after half an hour turned it off. They found it complete shite. It confirmed my choice to never watch any of these three sequels. Particularly as it seems the last two are even way worse than The Force Awakens
mate, the prequels are terrible movies
This reads like a reddit post lol
And i thought force awakens was shit when i saw it.
But the standalone movies are kinda good. Like Rogue one and Solo.
@Neo's danger Agreed.
@Neo's danger Solo was pretty rough but i was able to enjoy it eventually, same as The Phantom Menace.
I cant say the same for the sequels tho.
Agree 100% with this review, The Last Jedi is an abomination!!
As an amateur fiction writer, it is astounding how they managed to fit so much awful writing in one script.
I'm not kidding when I say a random 15 year old from fanfiction.net could have done a better job.
@@Aethuviel totally agree, this script was so horrible and I can't understand how Lucasfilm let this happen. How did they not put the breaks on this mess and regroup. I mean, at least we know Mark Hamill raised concerns, how did they just ignore him?!? So they can't have the excuse that they didn't know.
When i saw this i realised Luke was THE hero from my childhood, this film makes me sad, angry and a little bit sick. There was a ton of directions the could have gone. The people who made this film understand nothing.
@ⅰи∂ㄩㄅ360 Yes, yes it was crap too. I SO agree!! I won't go into why but yes. But at least it didn't kill all my hope for the franchise. TLJ did just that. It killed all hope. I will only see the last one if I just happen to walk into a room that it just happens to being playing in. Even then, I might just leave. I could be on my death bed with only days to live and I still wouldn't care to know what happened. The only think that could pull me back would be Lucas getting the rights back and doing it over. But we all know there is no chance in hell of that.
@@scorchogrey2385 Be aware. Hollywood has been turned into a propaganda machine. The aims of the owners of Hollywood, the same cabal that owns the central banks and the mainstream media (elite, Zionist Jeωs); is to undermine white societies and attack the white male and family values.
Luke Skywalker was a white male hero, so he had to be extinguished in peoples minds. He had to be replaced with colored people and females.
The script writing instructions, from globalist elites, is deliberate and calculated.
I don't mind the attack on Christianity, or the loosening of sexual morals by these elite Zionists. But the attack on the white male combined with the mass immigration of colored, lower average-IQ people and the Middle East wars ... they have gone to far with all that.
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One of my least favorite tropes is every hero that gets older no matter how kind, caring, or optimistic they were turns into the same jaded asshole as if all that happens when you get older is you become cynical and loose you ability to show kindness to anyone
"no matter how much we wish it could be, it can't be unmade" - brought a tear to my eye
But it could be remade..... If only the rights could be bought from that one trick pony shit house known as DIsney.
It can be to you if you want it to be. Its a fictional world. You can just decide for yourself that this never happened. You can tell yourself that the EU books are real. Sure its not what Disney says but who cares. As far as Im concerned Disney Star Wars never happened. I used to read the EU books and I loved them .I was willing to give these movies a shot and replace the EU with an "official" timeline but theyve failed. Theyve been unmade in my eyes and I again think of the EU as real Star Wars.
CoolHardLogic you’d have to recast Fisher. The golden opportunity was thwarted by money hungry heartless. Pure evil.
not my storyline
Plinkett said the same thing about the PT
The entire story-line to me seems like one massive missed opportunity.
We should have been introduced from the very first shot to Luke's academy, with Ben and Rey in training. Here was Luke's chance to shine as a character, as we now get to see him as a wise teacher, and the galaxy at relative peace. It also removes all the Mary-Sue accusations which, let's face it, are not without accuracy.
The story then becomes focused on Rey and Ben, and how they take different paths, and the tension between them. But it's also a chance to really get into the lore of the Force, Ben uncovering Sith teachings, being sold a relic in the form of Vader's broken helmet, and the feeling that it came to him for a reason. Palpatine holocron anyone?
Then you can run off and do the whole "Gotta kill Han" thing to sever his past, and introduce the First Order later as an encroaching darkness coming out of the black reaches of space. Luke remains a teacher until it's absolutely necessary to use him to directly get involved, and then it should be done both sparingly, and in a way that he makes fans leap out of their damn seats in delight.
It's called Star Wars, but there doesn't have to be a 'literal' war in every film, and it would have been better to lead into it so we can get to know the characters properly first instead of going from "Empire defeated" at the end of the OT to "Oh hai First Order" in the very first shot of the new one as if nothing had happened.
Han and Leia should have been left in relative peace. Leia doing the political thing as a cameo, and Han perhaps still returning to his smuggling or working for the new Republic in a more clandestine fashion until Ben tracks him down to give Harrison what he wanted. 3P0 and R2 also should be left to be part characters.
The story as is has too many characters, and spends time sloppily chasing down really baffling plot points or focusing on secondary characters.
I like both Po and Finn, but a lot of the time they seem either too comedic or just surplus. Po's flying skills are just unreasonably perfect, taking down entire squadrons in seconds and single-handedly emasculating a dreadnought, while Finn is the other end of the spectrum, getting his ass handed to him by a desert scav. For someone who has been trained from childhood to be a soldier, he's near useless and spends most of the time either running from something or getting smacked about by it. Phasma was a waste of time, and to a large degree so was Snoke.
It was always about the dynamic between Rey and Kylo, and for me that's what it should have stuck with. That's where the tension is, that's where the drama is.
Luke should have been a rock of support, like Yoda was, like Obi-Wan was, and should have had his chance to be that wise, powerful yet restrained mentor, cautioning the impetuous students.
But no, we ended up with Mary Sue and the grumpy hobo, and the comedy cast of dozens against the "just add water" Insta-Empire and their 'pulled it out of their asses' super-Deathstar.
What a fucking travesty.
You put my thought's about TLJ into words, TFA wasn't quite right but I thought I'd give it a chance - beginning to regret that one.....:-/
Perfect!!
Is there a way to save comments?
Nailed it.
If only, that would have been an awesome beginning to a new trilogy. Showing respect and giving dignity to the original cast and very natural segue for the generation to carry on the story
Good lord this video should have a million views by now.
Its ok, its based on what used to be Star Wars, think of it as an alternate reality Star Wars, just like alternate reality Doctor Who and Star Trek. Sometimes I think that the popularisation of nerd culture is what is killing it.
@@BorungBoyNerd Chic is what is killing nerd culture as studios now pander to the lowest common denominator rather than living up to the quality nerds demand
Unfortunately there are already a hundred videos of cringey SW fans.
Alex Cunningham
The latter sentence people say is fan service. Theres no winning.
Tony H It seems you’ve made your position clear as someone who hates Star Wars.
I’m just listening to this video for the first time, three years after it was posted. I’d like to add my own bitter two cents in:
I was nine years old when I went with my family to see Star Wars in the summer of 1977.
I have seen it many many times since then. Moat of my friends wanted to be the slightly “bad boy” Han Solo but I was lit up by Luke Skywalker for exactly the reasons you detail - hell, I even dressed up like him Halloween that year.
Fucked if I can remember details of this past Monday, but some 45 years on now, the details of that day are enshrined in my memory because of the heart and soul stirring impact of the great film and it’s characters.
That day is enshrined in my memory because of the heart and soul stirring impact of the great film and it’s characters.
In contrast, only 5 years after going with my family to this much-hyped, much anticipated movie, I can barely remember any of the plot points or story moments you bring up. I can’t remember my family‘s reactions. I can’t even remember that one light “Luke tickles her hand pretending to be the Force” moment.
Whether one is a fan or a hater of episodes I-IiI, (I fall in towards the latter end of that group) I at least generally remember them. But with this film, Ryan Johnson, Mark Hamill, and the “powers that be” managed to do something that should not have been possible:
They spent $200m to craft a forgettable Star Wars film.
I am so sad to have to agree with the points made in this video, but agree I do, friend. I really think you're spot on in remarking that Hamill gives his all to this performance and that even his best effort can't save this movie because Johnson so clearly wanted to denigrate Luke.
I mean even right down to his looks. Hamill looked great in that last shot of Force Awakens, he looks great in real life (working hard in recent years to get in shape for the part) and what does The Last Jedi do? Trades out the new jedi robes for a drab raincoat, gives him a sloppy haircut and a Duck Dynasty beard. Or they do the silly flashback scenes with the obvious hair and beard dye job.
Hamill was the same age when they started filming this new trilogy as Alec Guiness was when shooting Star Wars - 62 - they could have just gone in that direction and so many of us would have LOVED IT. I expected this Luke to be reluctant and embittered, but I also expected Rey to be able to convince him to get back in the fight. The Luke I know would have done that. But don't take my word for it - just watch what Hamill himself said about that on the DVD documentary.
It will be a Christmas miracle if Episode 9 can salvage this mess, and I'm not holding my breath. What a disservice to such a wonderful character and classic tale. Thanks, Critical Drinker, for giving voice to others who think like you and I do.
TLJ is so bad I refuse to watch 9.
It's so terrible, I refuse to buy any new SW merchandise (I already have all the EU things I could want.)
Until Kennedy is fired I'll never give Disney my money again.
I really hope Episode IX actually tanks at the box office like Solo did. Disney doesn't deserve this story and the company deserves to be punished for their insolence. But sadly, I think the next shitful movie is going to be a success. After Micky Rat heard every reasonable complaint about TLJ, his response was to tell us to collectively go F@@K ourselves. He called us sexist, racist and entitled. He discredited us at every opportunity feeling we would just suck off whatever project he threw at us next...until Solo tanked. Then the rat had the balls to publicly say that he's now going to listen to us...all because his ball of cheese was smaller than expected.
So expect in Star Bores 9 to see Disney doing every bit of damage control in their playbook. They're going to attempt to minimize the Luke-rape that occurred along with every other wretched plot-hole they created. We'll likely see Luke back in some capacity...doing something major. We'll see Leia martyring herself...maybe together. We'll see Rey learning that she's really the child of some powerful figure. We'll get an explanation of how Kylo was able to off Snoke. We'll prolly learn something about Snoke's past. All of it will be an intentional design with the mouse begging, "Please, take us back...we literally spent billions on this franchise. Don't throw us away. We'll give ya what ya want...honest." They want to secure an endless number of sequels that they can capitalize on for decades. So sad.
I don’t care. This Star Wars is dead. It ended with Return of the Jedi.
*If you boycott Episode 9 - Disney will sell it eventually to another company - and the new buyer will give us the REAL sequels.*
@@Rensune *You are a true fan!* :)
"Are you F*ing kidding me!", I said the same thing when I saw Luke toss his light saber over his shoulder. That scene was the one that burned my Star Wars bull$hit fuse and turned me off as a fan. Not one more penny to this franchise until Kathleen Kennedy and Ryan Johnson are forever banished to the outer darkness of sitcoms and romcoms from whence they came. Then they have to bring Luke Skywalker master Jedi back. He must be allowed to do his John Wayne so he can die a hero the galaxy will always remember. Only then will l think about buying a another Star Wars DVD.
No one laughed in the theater on premiere night at the tossed lightsaber. Total shock and silence.
I laughted. Because it was something I didn't expected and I love suprises. Yes, everything else about him was bullshit, but I like this scene if I imagine it stands alone. (Also, I like the bloody snow. And that's all, I guess.)
It’s funny the first time but after you realize that you won’t see Luke again it makes you never want to see any new Star Wars movies again. I never watched the last one because of how they treated Luke and I honestly don’t like flawless characters
When I was watching episode 8,I was wondering if rian Johnson had actually seen Star Wars before
In an interview he claimed he was actually a fan. 😒
I love how people gave the prequels a hard time and yet they mesh so well with the original trilogy and respect the old films and characters. Whereas the Disney muck shits all over everything!
One more thing The Last Jedi accomplished that should have been impossible - it sobered The Critical Drinker.
I feel so bad for Mark. I’ve felt so bad for him for months now since this movie came out. They did him dirty for sure.
@oneraceonedestiny money isn't what makes everyone happy man. They destroyed something he loved and cared for with a passion and you're like: "but hey, atleast he got payed a lot" even tho he probably fell into a depression after this movie along with losing Carrie Fisher, "atleast he got some money out of this" That's definitely a stupid response and a retarded way of thinking
oneraceonedestiny Why can’t I feel sorry for both it’s there a limit that the rest of us don’t t know about? If so you might want to inform everyone else in the world.
@oneraceonedestiny if you wanna inform the rest of the world what's happening to the African kids that don't eat and get chopped up into bits and Syrian kids that have no legs then post that comment on one of those videos. Leave it out of star wars
Personally i dont consider the Sequel Trilogy canon, idc what anyone else says
Same
TIE Fighter for PC in the 90's had a better storyline than these last 3 movies.
@@dalandser562 So did the holiday special at this point
Mark Hamill wasn't typecasted. He's said he always wanted to be a voice actor and was thrilled to make that his career. He has had much more success as a voice actor than he has on screen
For example, he did a great job doing the voice of the Scientist in The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance.
The best version of The Joker is Mark Hamill
The movie does what it's supposed to, assassinate the male hero and bring him down.
@Lunas Ra.. That's WHITE men... Don't forget it.. The left loves men of "color"
And the right hates men of "color". See I can say ignorant shit too
@@nomadicone1085 But the difference is that hating men of colour is no longer acceptable (quite rightly), whereas hating WHITE men is now a fashionable badge of honour because they represent the 'toxic privileged patriarchy.' It is ignorant no matter who the target is - it's all bigotry and it's all wrong.
@@nomadicone1085 "See I can say ignorant shit too" Yes you can...
@@jackhammer0101, I'm as white as an Irishman, but with the features of an African(bone structure, wide nose, and my hair is always in knots; struggling between flowing locks and a curls for days.) My father is incredibly black, but my mother is white, with a slight tan(Romani Jewish); The Nine Divines blessed me at birth.
Long story short, fuck these movies and all involved.
Rian Johnson: “Subverting Expectations”
Listen to this beautiful piece of music I composed:
[[Nothing]]
Rian: see!!? I subverted your expectations. because I’m a creative genius!!!
mrsvle not exactly. I’d expect whatever he produced to be shit so my expectations would have been met.
It has been done already, and it is still better than what has been done with the last Jedi.
F U
The simple unadulturated truth is this: In time, the force awakens will be forgiven for it's trespasses. The last jedi will be hated with an abiding hate for ALL time.
Not by me it won't. As far as I'm concerned, this new trilogy is expensive Disney fanfiction. This isn't real Star Wars, nor will it ever be. It's possible it may have been good had J.J. Abrams been in control of the entire thing, but it's too late now.
I'm sorry, but TFA lead to this. It built up a pile of shit and TLJ just dove right into that pile head first. I despise both of those films.
For all we know, the outline for episode 8 that Johnson threw out might've been a blow-by-blow retread of The Empire Strikes Back, the way Force Awakens was to New Hope. I have no idea if it was a good or bad decision. But in trying so hard to be different, it abandoned what makes Star Wars what it is. As far as I'm concerned, these films aren't part of the story any more than the Robot Chicken sketches are.
@@iamayzil8105 I can't believe your trying to say that there wasn't anything else that could happen. Rian literally just went through everything possible and closed all the loose ends in the new trilogy in the worst possible way or pretended that some just didn't exist. There was so much set up in episode 7 but RIAN couldn't think of anything to do but kill the story.
If the phantom menace can forgiven so will the last Jedi
After watching Mandolorian, they did Luke perfectly and whoever is running the show knows what they are doing for the fans. The sequel movies don't exist to me.
Star Wars Movies:
The Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
Revenge of the Sith
Rogue One
A New Hope
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
The Mandalorian
Yeah that'll be Dave Filoni.
not Kennedy
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 nope, not Filoni, it be Jon Faverou. Filoni is a woke weirdo fully invested in Kennedys vision.
Though season 3 of Mandalorian has now shown that even Faverou has been got to.
Star Wars is officially dead
I never thought Star Wars could get worse than the prequels but the prequels look like masterpieces next to this drivel.
I liked the prequels.
@@samuelross9884 the prequels were disappointing for what wasn't there. There were elements that were good but the main point (Anakin's character development) takes place entirely off screen between episodes 1 and 2. Also, as much as episode 3 has some truly awesome scenes, the plot is absolutely retarded. Anakin fails to make a reasonable or rational decision throughout the entire movie. General Grievous is the stupidest villain ever. Ian McDermott carries everything with his spectacular performance as the emperor. I don't fault anyone for liking these movies but they could have been written so much better.
Absolutely. They are not great, but they are not too bad either. This one is an insult to intelligence.
And the sad thing is that it didn't have to be this way. Hell, even though Disney fumbled the ball by not going with a new concept and falling back on making a soft-reboot of the first movie, there was still an opportunity to do something interesting with a sequel. But nope, Empire 2.0 are still just as powerful after the destruction of the Not-Death-Star as the Empire was in V.
It's just so incredibly baffling - J.J. ended the story of 7 in a position where a story like Empire Strikes Back would naturally unfold, but he left enough new plot elements to progress the story in a new direction. And Rian Fucking Johnson took all the new plot threads, ran them off the road, and focused on taking the parts that people felt would be like Empire or Return of the Jedi and said, "Ha, dumb internet theorists, I'm rendering all of you wrong by doing NOTHING! HA! Don't you feel silly for being creative and having ideas?"
@@arandompasserby7940 OMG preach, brother! There were a lot of interesting plot threads in Force Awakens that could have made for a great new trilogy if explored but the entire point of TLJ seems to be to make a mockery of Force Awakens and abruptly destroy everything that made it interesting. FA: Who is this ancient and powerful Sith lord, Snoke who managed to build a new Empire in only a few years? TLJ: Who cares? He's dead. FA: What is Rei's lineage and why is she so powerful without training?
TLJ: Nobody and I dunno. FA: Will we finally have the payoff of seeing Luke as a wizened old Jedi Master who much like Obi Wan, learned from his failures and taught others not to make his mistakes? TLJ: No, he's just a dumb asshole and a coward. FA: Poe and Finn are relatable, likeable, ballsy new characters who have a lot of potential. TLJ: Poe and Finn are boring Neanderthals who routinely get out-acted by cgi penguines. Rian Johnson must have done the same bad batch of coke as those two retards who ruined Game of Thrones.
The best part of movie is when mark hammill said it had great actors in it and one day he would like to actually work with them.
That could be taken more than one way, I think!
He had high hopes back then. Mark was at least as heartbroken as the rest of his fans.
The build up to the trilogy, an actual new hope toward seeing our favorite cast together again.
"I am a Jedi, like my father before me". The Luke Skywalker who said that would not have done the actions in the ST.
TLJ: "I am no Jedi, nor am I Sith. I'm just nothing in comparison to the bestest evar, Rey Palpatine Skywalker."
Expectations successfully subverted!
Luke was a really good character in the original because he started off sort of low key relatable as a farm boy raised on a nobody planet and then became a warrior, kind of to say, if you work hard you can become strong and great like him even if you were raised as a nobody, but ray is: you are just born a badass
True but even Luke was not written well in the old Trilogy. As a Farmer Boy, together with a Smugler and an old Jedi raiding the biggest, most secured military base in the Universe?
Then from a Farmer Boy, he became a Jedi within 6-12 Month that is equally skilled in Swordplay as one of the greatest Sith Lords only losing because of Vader overpowering him with the Force. But then 1 or 2 Years later coming back as a Jedi Master.
Just wondering, how did luke master his sword skills without having several practice Partner? Magic?
Luke is just like Rey a MarySue.
"And Daniel LaRusso decided to murder one of his students because he worried about him joining a different dojo" had to pause it and laugh so much, tears down my face. Brilliant stuff.
Cobra Kai Season 3 spoilers already getting out, eh??? XD
Legends Luke stayed true to the character from the original movies married a hot redhead Jedi babe, had a son and never lost hope even when the rest of the galaxy did.
“Canon” Luke gave up when things got bad and hid away as a depressed old hermit.
Screw you Rian
@Canadian Commie nobody we know.
The new trilogy is not cannon. I refuse to accept it as such. Even George Lucas doesn't accept it.
Funny thing is - you can have a former heroic charachter now given up on life but give them a redemption arc that satisfies and inspires your audience.
Think king Theoden in LOTR - he's basically TLJ Luke (+ some magic brain damage) in the beginning of movie 2 but he swallows all his self guilt and goes in for another heroic ride in movie 3, even though he clearly regrets living his last XX years.
Oh please, EU Saint Luke was the worst idea ever. You wanted a flawless Force Pope? Then don’t say that Rey is a MarySue...
@@adonaimelles2317 that's an interesting POV. In this regard yeah, he does work. I just wish he had anything to do before some rando beats him up with his own lightsaber
I never hated the prequels the way some do, but through the lens of hindsight, 8 and 9 make 2 and 3 look absolutely phenomenal (by comparison)
The prequels were little more than Meh to me, when they came out.
Compared to the sequels. . . the prequels are now somewhat akin to LOTR (movies, not books).
@@revdraco at least the prequels gave us a lot of cool stuff and expanded the lore alot. so it’s hit and miss But generally good stuff.
I liked the prequels too tbh. Now they feel even better.
Always loved the prequels and still do. I even loved TFA. The last Jedi was trash and I didn’t/won’t see TROS.
Always loved the prequels (especially 3)
I got this recommended 5 years later and let me just say i love your new mic
6:08 "Why is you head shaped like a fucking soccer ball?" The best quote of this video.
That statement should have been repeated more often
You it the nail on the head !
LUKE was the HEART of Star Wars so they aimed for the heart and killed Star Wars !!!!!!!!
I think my alcoholism peaked during the release of this movie.
@Grapthar's Hebrew Hammer Yeah what a weird comment all together. The original post said nothing about the prequels and it never made any comparisons. Maybe they replied to the wrong comment on accident?
My theory is the space cow milk destroyed Luke’s mind and made him insane
There’s a reason we pasteurize our milk, just saying.
It takes years and years of study and practice to learn all the forms of lightsaber combat let alone master them. Also the many uses of force manipulation. But rey defeats kylo after sparring with a boulder. Even finn a nobody storm trooper deserter holds his own against kylo. Kylo a guy who’s been training since he was a kid. Seriously?
I used to think the same way, but the facts are:
Kylo was emotionally distraught from just killing Han, and he had just been shot in the hip by Chewbacca with a Bowcaster. It's a wonder that he was even still standing, let alone fighting.
In The Rise of Skywalker, Kylo is shown to be decisively more powerful than Rey, which is as it should be.
@@briansheehan3430 while i agree with that i also still say there is trained and untrained.
Get into a boxing ring or ufc circle with any pro even when their tired and injured.
It would be like me at 38 fighting my 12 year old and not only him landing a hit on me but also injuring me.
The drinker said on another video rey could have easily been fixed. Have her tap into the force and keep Kylo at bay. When he goes to kill her the ground splits open and they escape.
That lets her in 8 feel fear and doubt and let her struggle with new powers like Luke did in empire. So shit feels earned.
Even in ROS Kylo is beating her and it's literally there for a way to kill Leia because Kylo does literally nothing against Palpatine and of course Rey has to fight him alone and be the new chosen one lol
@@christopheredwards5337 Oh I agree that TFA should have had their duel end in a stalemate. The whole trilogy sucked really.
@@briansheehan3430 i mean i have no issues with rey being good or powerful. But the drinker has showcased other films and shown other non mary sue characters. Great example is Uma in Kill Bill. Christ watch her arc. Also watch the Drinker review the Witcher and comment on Yennifer vs Rey. It's not even a god dam comparison lol. Supergirl does this shit all the time. Superman is literally there as a joke and whenever he's on screen next to her he's constantly getting his ass kicked and losing. He even says the world doesn't need him anymore because she's so much stronger then he is.
Lmao yeah sounds like classic Clark Kent
@@christopheredwards5337 Oh of course, my personal favorite female protagonist, other than The Bride, is Furiosa from Mad Max.
Rey is just an unconvincing character, and it breaks the immersion by how obvious it is that she was written that way. She has no character development and no personality.
Yes. Yes! YES! A THOUSAND TIMES YES!!! This right here captures my primary reason for hating TLJ so much it forever killed Star Wars to me.
It comes down to one thing - "the force is female". I lay blame for this travesty squarely at the foot of Kathleen Kennedy who had no intention of doing honor to any of the original male characters. She is why Rian Johnson was hired, and likely she is the one who gave him his marching orders. The goal is to do away with the white male characters and them not having any sort of real legacy, but to die simpering and weak like the toxic males that they are being made out to be.
One question I have. How would it be received by feminists if instead of Luke we had a female Jedi, maybe an aged Ahsoka Tano, and the so-called padawan a white male who wouldn't leave her alone after multiple attempts on her part that she wants to be left alone. I imagine we'd get weeks of outrage in mainstream media. But since it's a white male being endlessly and mercilessly harassed, it's OK, because reasons.
A big aspect of the pointlessness of TLJ is that Rey had nothing to learn from Luke. I'm not even sure why she went there. She automatically had all the skills exceeding a master Jedi, and had the force ability also exceeding the Chosen One. So why was she there exactly? What, as a foil to prove how a strong female can outdo any male any day of the week no matter the circumstances or who the individuals are? Yea, that's it.
I'm really glad I didn't waste money on this movie. I probably won't even watch IX even on streaming service, my time is too valuable for that.
Spot on mate.
Rey went there in The Force Awakens because she had the completed map to Luke Skywalker and would bring him back to the Resistance because he went "missing". Since Rian Johnson completely fucked everything up in The Last Jedi by saying Luke really went there to die, her original purpose of going there was destroyed as well. So she basically went there for nothing because he never left the planet at all and died on it!
And don't forget Poe's character arc that was terrible and made no sense.
The only thing I got out of that arc is "when things get hairy, run away from the the danger, but women are always right. Even when they REFUSE to tell you what their plan is in a dire situation, they're right"
Don't watch it. I have stopped watching ALL JJ Boredoms movies since he killed everyone we loved in Star Trek 11...
@@UCB6XqwdQhRiubGeKU23undA: Agree with you. And that was also a huge failure to develop both characters. Let's imagine for example that instead of bullying a weak Luke into complying with her own views, Rey would just tell him : "you don't believe anymore into the Jedi Order ? Well, I am. So, goodbye, I'll stand and create my own Jedi Order. Oh and mind if I borrow those books to you ? After all, since you don't believe anymore in them, that's ok, am I right ?"
That would have been interesting, at least.
God this made me so depressed, I can’t believe what they done to the legacy & poor Mark
God damned this guy gets it.
Wow, well said. The most brutally accurate synopsis of the defamation of Luke Skywalker's character to date. And I have to say the Scottish accent makes it even better, grittier, stronger somehow
The accent makes it more sincere and to the point
Imagine that on the Christmas (life day) Card.
"Dear Han and Leia, I had a bad dream and killed your son..."
@moon dawg stir stir whip whip stir...
This movie put the Star Wars franchise on life support. Rian Johnson completely stomped on the Jedi and the true meaning of the force.
10:47 "Luke is neutered in every way possible by this movie." Kennedy and Johnson: "Mission accomplished."
The New Trilogy simply isn't cannon. This is all part of Dr Strange's Multiverse of Madness.
Its ok Mark Hamill, Disney may have killed your iconic character of Luke but you will always be the greatest Joker of them all.
When you're right, you're right.
Ann's the precursor to the Joker, The Trickster (90's The Flash series)
Hamill will always be remembered as being great as Luke Skywalker. Nobody will talk about this piece of utter crap movie in years to come apart from how terrible it is.
Don't forget "COCK-KNOCKER"!!!
You explained how and why Luke Skywalker was utterly destroyed to great character and detail than Star Wars Explained ever could.
Splendid job, mate!👏🏻
Hamill couldn't walk away. He signed a contract back in 2013 when GL was still owner of the franchise and he had any entirely different story in mind.
Mark didnt and couldnt walk away, Mark Hamill has not had the career { and I honestly dont know why, he is a superb actor and loved real person}of Harrison Ford, Harrison got the big money, yes he is the bigger star but in a SW film there is no one more important than Mark playing Luke. We should have ALL got behind him and showed these film companies that he should have recieved the same as Harrison {and Carrie also} God knows they made enough money for this franchise
He was typecast, so acting roles were difficult. I'm happy that he found success in cartoon voiceover work and he said in an old interview he paid his house off before A New Hope, so he doesn't need the money.
It's not just what they did to the character of Luke for their shit story, it is - as you say - what they also did to Mark Hamill. He understood the character and was summarily ignored.
To be fair, Mark hated that Luke cut the arm off the Wampa, even though he'd used womp rats as target practice, and it was about to maul him to death, so he wasn't always right about the character. That said, even in his mistakes he's more insightful than Rian.
It’s not just Luke, Rian destroys every single character within their first 5 minutes on screen. Especially Hux and Kylo REN, they went from formidable to pitiful in record time.
Kylo Ren was never formidable to begin with. Formidable villains don't throw temper tantrums like he did in The Force Awakens.
@@furioussherman7265 true, he never was a formidable villain, he was the protagonist. going from a flawed character to eventually overcoming those flaws to defeat the villain at the end of the trilogy made him the star of the show.
Blame jj he left without giving rian any information on what should happen with Luke
@@josephnewsome2935 i blame abrams, rian and kennedy since all three knew they were making a trilogy but didn´t plan anything and more or less had "freedom" to create the plot they wanted
only hux and ren were never formidable. ren was an emo teen throwing a temper tantrum and losing lasersword fights against untrained people, and hux was loud screaming nothing else
The entire Disney triology is on par with Ghostbusters 2016, such a stunning and brave gift of art and entertainment that the world truly needed.
Raise your glass to the Drinker for being able to put into words what we all feel.
You'd think after Luke trained so hard and destroyed the Death Star, while having gone toe to toe with Vader, his father and getting rid of Palpetine would have made him into a hardened, knowledgeable jedi like he was always meant to be and continue on his training to keep the balance in the force as he was the last jedi they knew about. NAW, let's just turn him into some grouchy old man who has no ambition, forsakes his past accomplishments and casts himself aside never to be seen again hiding on some island wanting no part in what he stands for lol. Then let's have Rey defeat him with ease!
Kylo isn't just an adolescent boy, he's Luke's nephew. Luke was going to kill his family.
Remember when he did that to Vader, he was always giving Leia hate eyes after she chose han.
11:45 what a true and bittersweet detail! wonderful video drinker!