2015 BMW S1000RR | Revisited... Better Than The HP4??
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- I don't think anything can dethrone the mighty HP4 in the SuperSport category, as it is just damn near perfect.
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I'm just going to buy an R1200GSA and travel around the world.
Peace,
Duke
My personal opinion, I had the HP4, great bike and all, the heat from HP4 was more for me, because of the full carbon fibre belly pan, it felt like it shot up and radiated my privates, nice during our winters here, at slow speeds. What I would like the HP4 to have is the cruise control, clutch less down shift, as it only has upshift. Unfortunately I had a crash with it, and due to the parts being so expensive on the HP4, they wrote it off. I could have bought it back, but it was to expensive for me. So I waited for the 2015 and wow, what a difference. The throttle response for me on the 2015 is way more responsive, only things I miss from the HP4 that aren't on the 2015 is the carbon bits, the full akrapovic titanium exhaust, the HP levers, HP rear sets and HP wheels. I had a long time to think about it, and I finally came down to the conclusion that I'd rather take the 2015 than the HP4. Sounds stupid and all, but I have my reasons. Thanks again for your video DODC, I always enjoy peoples different takes on previous and current bikes.
This was an extremely helpful comment, thank you for taking the time. Interesting perspective you've had about both HP4 and new S1000RR. You've left me with a lot to think about.
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Thanks man! You answered every question I had on the two bikes.. I realized I really wanna keep my nuts cool and I really need cruise control. 😂
My 2016 bmw S1000RR, I have hp wheels and a full titanium akropovic exhaust off a 2014 hp4 only difference was the exhaust flanges grind them down to spec and bam perfect fit perfect sound bad ass performance love my s1krr
"The HP4 feels more special"... Your mate said it all!
It's basically all I needed to hear lol
You're right on point with your review bro! My HP4 doesn't get as hot as my buddy's S1000RR and the handling on my bike is more precise.
Heyyy glad you agree as an HP4 owner!
i just rolled 1200 miles on my 2015 rr, everytime i get on it it seems to make me a better rider..... i absolutely love it... and yes it does bake my feet
They are incredibly confidence inspiring!
@DukeOfDC I wonder what the difference might be that you felt. My other RR has forged wheels and Q3s, not Pirellis. I do feel that the second RR feels sharper. Since there are two variables there I can't say what it is but maybe it's the forged wheels on the HP4 that makes it feel sharper. I gotta get you on my other RR sometime. Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for letting me ride that Aprilia!
I would love to ride the other RR, and although I think the HP4 is "better" it's not to say your S1000RR wasn't incredible. It's the battle of two godly motorcycles, and that down-blip shifter is mmmm mmmmmm. Hope you had fun blasting around on the Tuono :)
As a fellow KTM SDR owner, I just bought a 2016 S1000RR. Should arrive soon so I'll let you know what I think.
Nice!! Hope you enjoy it, although I'm sure you will
As a HP4 owner I totally agree mate. Then again I may be biased 😜. Over here in Australia on hot days and in traffic before we were legally allowed to filter I noticed so much heat coming out the left side of the frame in particular. It was bad to the point where one day wearing my kevlar riding jeans I got a small burn blister on the inside of my leg. It is not a problem at speed or when im wearing leathers. As a fix I got the illimberger carbon fiber frame covers and installed them. They helped with the heat and cleaned up the look more. Cheers
I'm glad I saw this review. When I rode the rr, I thought it has an amazingly cool running engine. I didn't consider the fact that I had full leathers and boots. Yikes.
Heyyy!! Yeah, still hung up on this beast to this day haha. The heat is brutal though, you're right. Leathers FTW!
Loved the vid Duke, such an awesome bike! Keep up the great work!😄👍
Thanks man :D
So what did you go for, the latest S1000RR or the HP Sauce?
One big thing to consider, in hindsight, is the RR suspension is by default set up more "comfy" if you have the DDC. When you buy it new and set it up as per the manual then ride it a 1,000 miles or so and then re-set it up again it's just magical. From people that I know that have the HP4 there wasn't that break in period.
I just upgraded to a 2016 S1000RR with all the fun stuff on it. I'm curious what the upcoming HP4 has...
I went with a 2015 KTM Super Duke 1290 R lol. If I had gone with one of these it was likely going to be the HP4
I'm getting a but off topic but I seriously feel that Aprilia should have based the Caponard on the RSV4 platform, I've ridden my buddies Caponard for 1200km and the suspension is sublime but compared to the Multistrada it really lacks power, and the RSV4 platform is simply epic, Guys like this comment so that Aprilia can see this and our Duke of DC, Duke buy a Duke, so we can say Duke rides a Duke
The Caponard is one that I haven't ridden yet, but also one that I havent heard a lot about aka it doesn't seem to compete with the other adventure touring bikes out there, so maybe it's time to up the power. Hahahaha Duke of a Duke would be the most appropriate bike choice.
DukeOfDC Hope to see more from you mate. Next time I'm in the state's I'd like to meet you in person. Cheers mate, ride safe.
the caponord is basically a dorsoduro 1200 with touring goodies, it makes about 125hp so not as powerful as a multistrada or s1000xr but not a small number either, its more on the comfy touring side than those two
nice video i know the question is irrelevant but may i know what type of video cam ur using ??? the quality is amazing man
Thanks :) I use a GoPro Hero 4 Silver
+DukeOfDC wow i guess no need to buy the gopro hero 5
Andre khoury I am SUPER curious to see what the Hero 5 has to offer. The main thing I will be looking for is increased battery life or 4k@60fps
+DukeOfDC as i heard it will be released after the drone called karma i think and yes they claim enhanced battery life but what a vblog more then 1 hr that will be over boring
Andre khoury Well yes, but the footage you see in this video was shot well over 2 hours of raw footage, so battery life is very important to capturing a lot of raw footage to create a fun 10-15 minute vlog.
How about the heat from 1299 compare to s1000rr? And duke,it would be awesome if u could do a kawi h2 review,kinda curious about that bike.
s1000rr is a more pronounced all around heat, where the 1299 is like a laser beam on your right hamstring. I might get a chance to ride an H2 in July some time.
+DukeOfDC now you see what I was telling you about. That heat is no joke.
+DukeOfDC so in that case which is worse or unbearable? Haha
I've got a '16 FJ-09, just took it round trip to Montreal for the F1 race, just over 1,500 miles and was super comfy the entire time. Great bang for your buck kind of bike. Let's link up and you can ride it.
I won't lie I have been very interested in the FJ-09 ever since word first came out that the FZ was taking an xr'esq turn lol. Would love to ride it and to a Tuesday Reviewsday on it!
+DukeOfDC No problem, shoot me a message and we can work on setting it up.
Hi what was this filmed with the quality is great
GoPro Hero 4 Silver :)
Are you ditching the supernaked category? What I really want to see are features on the Superduke, S1000singleR and comparison with the Tuono Factory - which I'm specifically considering trading my gen2 Tuono in for.
I am indeed. I have nothing against the SuperNaked category, but want to try something different. I did however love the 1100 Tuono and have had an incredible time on the S1000R both times I've ridden one. The SuperDuke is looking like a unicorn to my hands on haha.
Any day I would take that HP4 even if someone offers me a Ducati or any motorcycles out there HP4 is the bike I would own one day I'm riding a ZX-10R 2015 so I'm having a hard time because it's a great Bike lol.
You just got yourself a new subscriber (:
How does the Tuono feel after riding those refined BMW's ? Does the Tuono feel raw and primitive after riding these other bikes?
It takes a bit of getting used to once I hop back on, and yes it's a bit less refined. The riding position is more favorable, but the components and handlebar position makes it a bit less comfortable than both the S1000RR and the HP4. I do notice that the low down torque makes my Tuono zippier off the line.
I passed you guys leaving B&B there where you pulled off. I was creeping on those RR's the whole time there, kept coming back to them, they are NIIICE. But I'm gonna test ride a cruiser, I'm starting to crave a little more comfort than what my VFR provides. Will miss the V4 though, best motor out there. Wish I could've taken home that Magna that was there. Such a sweet ride and in great shape. Thanks for the sticker BTW. Later.
Dude, I completely feel you on the comfort requirements lol. I've actually started looking into the s1000xr and if you can believe it, the r1200gsa as potential Tuono replacements. Just want to be able to ride from here to the moon and back without the pain. Sorry we didn't sync up with you for the ride out!
+DukeOfDC no worries. I think the XR is just about a perfect bike. I'll probably put up with the sport bike for awhile longer, until the FZ10 comes out next summer. I talk myself in and out of a cruiser constantly, but I'm not ready to have a bike payment anyway.
Either way both are beast!
I sold my 2010 S1000RR and bought a 2015 S1000R. My next bike will be the Multistrada or the S1000XR.
How'd the BMW's compare to the RSV4 RR you rode?
I've been loving the idea of getting an s1000xr or r1200gsa next and riding in comfort but still having great power (the s1000xr being the sportier of the two, of course.) The BMW is more refined, and electronic suspension is almost a must for me now.
Just bought an S1000XR myself. Such a comfortable bike compared to the supersports/naked catagory but it is plenty powerful. My issue is all the electronic assists like gearshifting etc. Just more things to go wrong with the bike. Absolutely love it so far though.
I own an rf and a bmws1000rr There are alot of differences BMW is more comfortable and street worthy Rf is more track oriented but fun Just can't ride it near as long.Bmw is the best overall sport bike I've ridden. They make a perfect pair
DukeOfDC I wanted to ask, have you had the chance to ride the 2016 S1000rr Premium?
I haven't but is there really much different? This 2015 model was only missing the forged wheels, but I believe everything else is identical.
+DukeOfDC Thanks man, guess I will have to get down a test one out to see if the extra 3k+ is worth it.
toki1 said u forgot to charge something ahaha nice vid btw i think ho4 it's cooler
HP4*
Hahhaaha to charge my Sena lol. Next time it will be charged.
Hey DC, love seeing the roads where I grew up and lived for 20+ years. Still have my Membership at Springfield Golf & Country Club if know where that is. (Keene mill rd/Rolling rd) ....Anyway, I have the 2016 BMW S1000RR + others..(See my channel). ...and my only problem with the BMW is that can burn your legs if in reg pants on frame. Not so much around feet like you were saying. Anyway, there is a 650ib who just told me that if put carbon fiber on frame, alleviates the problem. Good luck with your decision DC.......
Oh sweet! Glad I'm bringing back some memories for you! I know exactly where the Country Club is - not too far from where I grew up. Yeah, the heat with a pair of jeans on was a bit much. Carbon fiber is always a good solution lol
Impressive choices. Stellar bikes. Much dilemma.
I know right. Watch, I'm just gonna get an r1200gsa and travel the states in complete comfort.
When you stop over in Dallas, you have a place to stay!
Blue is beautiful.
It's a great color on these bikes.
how can someone talk about the power of the bike while making a review but they don`t go over 8.000 rpm. I am the only one who go with a new bike at red line, in the first kilometer of driving?? i have no other way to compare the bikes if i can`t feel the power over the whole rpm range. PS: i love the S1000RR... hope i`ll have the chance to test one because i can`t afford to buy one..
Love the support man, thank you!! :D
hey, i enjoyed watching this video..so, good job ;)
New S1000RR comes with a factory 3 year warranty. Used HP4 has little or no warranty left. These bikes are techno marvels and magnificent machines. But a replacement engine is $10 grand if you blow it. I'd take the new bike with factory warranty, thank you very much.
A warranty is pretty damn important to me, but I have actually been able to find 2014 HP4's with the warranty still left on it for another year, so it might be possible to have your cake and eat it too lol
HP4 was a "prototype" for the new 2015 S1000RR. For some reason people don't know this.
to clarify not saying HP4 is bad, not at all, but it's really only special because of the number and the resale value is going down since people realized it's not really that special.
The new model has more features...and upgrades; if those are not the metric in which you measure a "better" bike then you're just going by personal choice then it's all subjective.
Ditto . E.g. according to reviews and info the motor on the 2015+ bike is less peaky. The motor has more power at the top and more torque lower down. Plus, if you really wanted to, you can buy all the carbon HP parts, accessories and forged aluminum rims etc from BMW...
Well considering you need to rebuild the hp4’s engine every 3000 miles I’d take the s1000rr
I think you mean the HP Race not the street model HP4
The HP4 will last well over 40K miles without a problem. I think you might be talking about the HP4 Race not the base HP4 or HP4 "competition" thats in this video.
the hell are you talking about
see if BvG will let you borrow his R1M1 and do a review from here in the UK.
*R1M
That would be epic. I think we'd have to meet prior to me asking to ride one of his bikes lol
Nah, Epic would be JG101, TB and yourself + the 44Teeth lot on a road trip... Could probably make a good comedy too.
I'm surprised you're not considering the single R. You should also test the R1200RS
I don't want another naked bike, that's all. If not, the single R would be a great choice.
Gotcha. Ironically, I just test road a R1200RS after I posted that comment. Smoooooth as butter. I was just a little too leaned over for my liking, but I think some risers could make that a fantastic bike. I want to try out an XR next.
And a 1200 GSA
s1krr 2015 and r1 2015 witch one u would choose.. im rite now feeling confuse to buy those 2bike.
r1 because that cross plane 😍
Well one is much more comfortable (s1000rr), but I also haven't ridden a new R1 (or any R1 for that matter), so it's difficult for me to help here :/
Zaim Zamri if you want to be fast BMW. every other guy has a Yamaha R1
Lmao why in the hell was I jumping hahahahahahh
You were giddy haha
torn between kawasaki zx14r or Ducati Diavel carbon or bmw s1000rr. what do you recommend from terms of how nibble, fast, reliable and all rounder? what is your favorite bike of all time ?
its amazing
Oh yes
Anyone can buy an s1000rr, they're a dime a dozen so find a used HP4 you'll never regret it!
HP4 over s1000rr all day err day.
I heard the chassis gets very hot on them and you feel the heat on your inner thighs, is that true?
It is very true that they get hot hot hot. In the jeans I was wearing, and on this hot of a day I was sweating my nuts off. With leathers on or during the cooler riding months it would be just fine.
That guy who wonders why the test rider did not go over 8000 rpm's, there is a limiter at 9000 rpm's for the first 600 miles.
youriding is an hp4 2015 ?
I don't have that problem with my 14 Frame gets alittle hot but never my feet
go for the the s1000xr if your going for something to take long rides with.
See that's just too smart lol. JK it's certainly a front runner. What do you think about the r1200gsa?
gsa is a great bike - but a liitle slow if your used to riding sportsbikes,also rides like a diesel.if you ever in nyc -hit me up.
Gs1200 is plenty fast.. novice riders stand no chance on their sportbikes.. I get plenty thrills on my GS
as good as an hp4 can be it still the old frame and old geometry so on track the 15 it's a way better bike... But only if u get the conventional suspension, the electronic one are funky as they are on the hp4, bike is bouncing too much and make u loose a lot of precision and speed.
I just love carbon fiber haha
I pay way too mach for taxes for gw parkway to be bumpy like that :/
Hahah, yeah man the end of the GW parkway is a fucking mess
I feel used and betrayed.
hahaha, I'm sorry?
All good humor mate. I hope you get the s1000RR it has a-lot of bang for buck. I'll say hello to the guys & girls at La Moto this coming weekend. Respect.
If you buy a Douche-cati multistrada ill in subscribe... seriously.
Ouch. Although the mulitstrada isn't on the top of my list, I can't make the decision as to what bike I want off of other opinions. I take everything into account, but at the end of the day, my money, my bike, my decision.
+DukeOfDC lol only kidding tho !
got both.bmw way better
BMW better than Tuono? How dare you haha jk.. you're not wrong haha
buy a demo bike. Much cheaper
I did done that sorta doe
Wrong bro
boring vid...lots of blabber, feels like u could have said what u wanted to say in 3min?