David Silveria vs. Ray Luzier (Song: Blind) | KoЯn
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2018
- David Silveria vs. Ray Luzier (Song: Blind) | KoЯn. Who do you think is better, Ray Luzier or David Silvera? Thank you for watching! Please like, share and subscribe!
Yaaah David by miles. That raw garage sound is Korn.
I just miss the whole korn sound from 1998
There was a concert in 2018 when they played songs from the 1998 album Follow the Leader because of the albums 20th anniversary. It sounded like the album and Jon even dressed like he did in ‘98 as well.
David is the real deal!! He created that sound for the band. Hard to replace it.
To me David and Fieldy’s music together make a bond. The bass and the groovy drums go together so well. That’s what makes KoRn. Take out the groovy drums, no more groove.
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Too bad fieldy and Dave hate each other.
Yep korn was all about David and Fieldy
David was a part of what made Korns sound so unique. Ray is a cookie cutter drummer. He’s at his best when playing David’s tracks Lol
Ray is very awesome but David Silvera still wrote the drums for that song and was the real one who created it!
yes, ray is a clown pet, David makes you feel the korn's original street soul
Jeremy Watanabe you’re god damn right. Gay Luzier is living in the shadow of someone else’s dream. Which happens to be David’s.
Banksy you’re an idiot.
@@5150Reaper Ray is the best thing to ever happen to KORN. Dave jumped ship for addiction and Ray saved them. He is a WAY more accomplished drummer than David, look at his background. David is a monster on drums but Ray is the most versatile drummer out there right now.
I believe
It's like how they say Jimi wasn't the best technically, but the way he made the guitar sing made him the greatest... Ray, although tighter and amazing in his own right , can not make those drums groove and flow with the music the way David does. There's an erratic fluidity to David's drumming that creates this frenetic energy that is just so powerful!
Yes sir
Rays a studio drummer in reality. He’s excellent, but in a studio.
David silveria style is unique, I love it
Both drummers are amazing but I think David’s drums had a better sound what I mean by this is that his drums had a dry sound. In my opinion that is amazing
Acxel Jimenez i think they sound dry cuz he hits those mother fuckers so damn hard they can’t even resonate lmao
I agree. David have the groove and without him KoRn doesn't sound like KoRn anymore
David !!!!!!! For thousands times.
My Uncle David hits so hard it shakes you from the inside out they need to bring him back
David - one love!
Ray Luzier ♥️♥️🔥🤘
Mr David Silveria of course the number one, more power and feeling with cymbals...
David.
Ray is good. But he doesn’t have that sound.
Korn should’ve stepped away after head left and took time off. Regrouped with all original members.
I think if they had gone on hiatus like they talked about in 2005, they would have never got back together.
Tommy Lavilla 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Tommy Lavilla toxic is toxic. He would’ve still ended up getting kicked out.
genesis were better without P.gabriel, so i mean korn is better with Ray when you know jonathan become a very different singer
but i agree , david work better with the "old" korn
@@eilizezila4650 Genesis were beter without Peter?!?! according to who?
David
Both are great, but David changed the game. David's beat is unique and inspired thousands of drummers, including me. I basically play drums thinking as David. That's how much I'm influenced by his trademark drumming beats🤗⛼🌌
david hat a certain power and groove, some kind of heavyness. naturally playing laid back wich formed the deep rhytmic sound of korn. in my humble opinion ray is a beast studio drummer who can smell a clicktrack from a mile away and david is the kind of guy who brings ruff energy to the table. played with a drummer like david for some years, he was by far my favourite. his timing wasnt the best if you searched for it but venues were cooking with his style. hard to describe
David!!
David for build the basic of drums bit ... hell yeah david
Ray is a very technical drummer but I don't like that, I wanna feel the groove!!
david plays laying back
ray plays laying forward
for korn, david is way better
David, original Korn sound miss him! ☹️
ray bring too much attention to his technique and drums, david brings an attitude and finesse that works with the song.
I prefer the sound of David's toms. It's not even close. Ray is great and the band succeeds with him. But I prefer David's grooves and sound.
David is a beast on that song.
David silveria forever
David for sure
David!
David did great for when he was in korn , but I must say ray luzier has been great and to me is a better drummer all around
David Silveria is better because he doesn't know but he has something that makes you feel street and rock harder
Wish David would come back !
David still my favorite cuz i growed up with him l
David Is the one by far...
David. He makes the drums sound in a way you can't teach. Ray is just by the book but still good.
It’s hard for someone to play ‘better’ than the original creator haha!
David lays his drum on other players very harmonically, which makes the song sound deeper and more powerful. Ray shows off in my opinion, though he is a good drummer too.
Also David chooses drum cymbals closer to the tone of the song.
david
David smashes the drums and cymbals hard than ray so david
David 🥂🥂🥂🥂
David of course
David, of course.
David still the best ... for korn
David - I feel Ray does what he wants which tends to throw off the whole vibe. Ray makes korn sound to much like death metal.
Thats where i disagree, he gives more life and flare to the song. He's by far one of my most favorite drummers out there on metal. He brings something Unique to Korn the way David gave his own in back when he was still in the band both equally talented drummers but I just prefer Ray more
@@megadeath098ajb Same.
ROC City 585 also, that’s funny that you mention that since JD literally started doing death metal vocals years ago.
@@megadeath098ajb I prefer Ray too!
RAY!!
Ray plays the hits constructed by David....and plays the last bad songs that they make.
Number one David Silveria
David all day every day
David.
David es el alma de Korn
Silvera, hands down. I love Ray, but David is my favorite.
David all the way for sure for the band. Not putting down Rays drumming ability.
DAVID. Hands down.
...Though Ray clearly is a better technical drummer.(As a replacement drummer should be) David has the soul, and the groove that helped give Korn THAT sound. I've always felt David was the most talented musician among the original five. And changing that changed their sound forever.
....And as almost every Korn fan agrees, Early Korn outshines, present day Korn. #BRINGDAVIDBACK
#cantweallgetalong
Arguably, Ray is "technically better" than David, but just like in the case of Dream Theater, sometimes technically better doesn't mean better overall. There's some attitude, some groove that is unique to each drummer and, on that, I think David was better for this band. I still love Ray and, in his own right, to this day, he's been the longest standing drummer in Korn (David 13 years, Ray 14 and counting). So, Ray is Korn's drummer, no doubt about it... but, yeah, I miss Dave.
Wow. 1000% how i feel as well. Well said
David the soul of korn
Rays the technical studio drummer, Dave was power and emotion
Silveria
David is the one and only drummer of Korn i haven't listened since he left, anyway Gojira are much better today, David need to come back to bring back the roots. Of this band.
David rejoining the band would not make them sound like they did 25 years ago unfortunately. They’re all totally different people now and even David can’t match his former self if you listen him play with his new band now.
David, period
Ray for me. A much better all round drummer
Ray is great drummer, so he can play korn songs great but this is all David's work to get this songs sounds raw and groovy, not like perfectly in time 0-1 computer beats like Ray often does. David is one who make character of korn, Ray only get notes and play. To this day i have a feeling that Ray is a temporary replacement for a drummer in korn. If a make a mistake, sorry for my english.
I though Dave was the singer for creed for second
hahahaha scott stapp. XD
Rays drum tone live sounds a lot fuller, their both different and great players but both from different Korn eras, and we should leave it at that. I think it’s awesome these guys are still around touring and making new albums, with all the drugs they’ve done lol
ray , no doubt !!
Ray
David Silveria ORIGINAL
David all the way, bring him back already
Pat Larkin why in the hell would you want him back? He does nothing but talk shit on the members and how he could kick their asses, and can’t play for shit anymore. Korn would be broken up within a year if he came back. The dude is toxic as fuck.
@@user-yy5pk4qb3j they have literally sued each other over royalties. David left because he thought the band was spiraling down after Head left. It's no coincidence that in 2013 he started talking about wanting to rejoin after Head did.
Nah, they’re doing just fine with Ray
I love david ,david is the best l love korn
Los dos estan chingones
Ray all the way.
Ray plays the song, he doesn't just keep a time, every cymbal smash and fill goes in time with the riff, which I think is a cool touch, and also quite difficult as one tiny misstep can make it sound out of time and quite shitty.
Imo, its exactly the opposite! Ray plays everything but the song. He does so much fills that ended up killing the vibe of the song. Some one very wise once said "what you choose to play is so important as what you choose not to play".
Ray Luzier is better! !! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I love Old school Korn and David Silveria. His sound is what made Korn sound like they do and that is where David wins, but Ray is a much better drummer overall. Even when I was 12 years old and a shitty drummer, I could hear that David just couldn't keep time very well. It kind of gave Korn that garage/grunge sound where Ray's drumming is a little to polished and perfected for old school Korn songs
Korn were never about perfect timing! That's normally what give life to songs.
ray has perfect talent, but david had color of korn..
I respect Luzier very much, no doubt... but too many fills kills it man !!
All comments are like "David David and David" don't all of you thinking why Korn let David out? come on! let it go! LoL
And? That was not the question of the video or is it? We are talking music, not if they hold their hands after a show. Also he left by his own foots.
David silveria es único creo un estilo el otro es uno de tantos como todos los demás
both are great, but by just going by this comparision, of course David Silveria, but honesty dont' think this was a fair comparison at all, especially since they are both two different shows recorderings, sounds settings etc.
What song is this in the Ray picture? TIA
“Never Never” - Korn.
David!! Korn originally sound
"ЭЯ" so funny
Can we take a second and say KoRns crowd is liquid 🤘🏻🤘🏻 fucking crazy dude 🤘🏻🤘🏻
DAVID, duh!!!
David is the shit
Ringo Starr
Both are very different
Its 2019 and still prefer david drumming over ray
silvera
Never really listened much after Dave left. Not the same
Both of them are good, but the original will always be just that. Both of them are great drummers...
David hits harder
Is that Joey jordison or Ray luzier
David without question
los dos son buenos y mejores bateristas
I agree that they are both good drummers!!!
Ray Luzier is undoubtedly the best for Korn!! Great sound, I like that plays with the riff, and playing live is a beast!
Jose Herrera 👎🏼 I’m guessing you’re not a drummer.
to be fair this video never really done ray luzier any justice, as much as i love the original silveras style he was brilliant but also simplistic, which sometimes makes a song even better as much as i feel luzier is technically gifted he gambles more adding extra scoresand not needed fills more which on a bad day could sound disgusting like what we just saw in his live version but none the less he didnt murder the song entirely.
lol.
David is better
Rau luzier
If you give me a Picasso Paint....i can put a more birds there....a tree maybe... AM i an original painting ..no.
an inaccurate analogy and who cares who is the original. Picasso is a single person. Korn is a group of people leads by Jonathan who decides not to let David have a comeback LoL and you must wonder why?
@@mynameiskranz In fact its an acurrate analogy, since Ray "fill" Luzier destroy every old song, in a bad way. You know, their best songs made with David on drums, don't you?. But you said it all, Korn became the JD project.
Old Video but, David by far he has his small rolls that ray couldn’t get down or do an to me ray plays out of tempo to me an sounds like basic cover drummer. David was more in tune with the band in my opinion.