The World's Worst Belayer - Bad belaying techniques

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • In climbing and mountaineering, proper use of belay devices is the cornerstone of the belay chain. The belayer holds the life of his partner in his hands. This task requires as much attention as it does training. The climber's confidence in his belayer has a major effect on his performance. It is important to remember that a good climber should also be a good belayer.
    To help you get there, we suggest you explore this concept over a few short films. Two videos will show you how to use a standardized series of movements for the appropriate use of Petzl belay devices such as the REVERSO (www.vimeo.com/8...) and the GRIGRI (www.vimeo.com/8....
    But first, meet "the worst belayer in the world" in this video... Any climber may encounter such behavior. Though it may not always be as exaggerated.
    And even though we can laugh at him, we can also ask ourselves:
    - Am I not maybe just as bad sometimes?
    - If it were me at the other end of the rope, would I be laughing as loud?
    More info about belaying techniques on:
    www.petzl.com/b...
    Written & directed by Guillaume Broust
    / guillaumebroust
    / guillaume_broust
    Soundtracks by :
    Dziahn - "Smoking Purl" - / dziahn
    eKoman - "Bee Killer" - www.myspace.com...
    Zikali - "Une vie sous Terre" - www.zikali.com
    RicciFatCut - "What can I tell you" - / linkrust
    Lokom Prod - "Jdz2" - / lokom
    Mandarine - "Ikon Jazz Rush"
    All rights reserved - © Petzl 2013

КОМЕНТАРІ • 274

  • @SuperAhmed1337
    @SuperAhmed1337 7 років тому +1074

    I hate it when my hands burn from the rope after my climbing partner falls all the way to the ground.

    • @bdogstone2221
      @bdogstone2221 5 років тому +28

      SuperAhmed1337 is there gloves you can get?

    • @jackblack7573
      @jackblack7573 5 років тому +9

      @@bdogstone2221 It's a joke lmao

    • @timorouw5555
      @timorouw5555 5 років тому +26

      @@jackblack7573 yeah, he knew

    • @auroravuitton90
      @auroravuitton90 5 років тому +4

      @@timorouw5555 r/whoosh

    • @timorouw5555
      @timorouw5555 5 років тому +3

      @@auroravuitton90 ?? Why the woosh?

  • @Schrodinger_
    @Schrodinger_ 4 роки тому +364

    In summary:
    1: Always hold the break end of the rope
    2: Always hold the break end of the rope
    3: Always hold the break end of the rope
    4: When giving your partner slack, keep your hand on the break end of the rope
    5: Always hold the break end of the rope
    6: When lowering your partner, hold the break end of the rope
    7: Tie a knot at the end of the rope

    • @hack2729
      @hack2729 4 роки тому +3

      I get your point but Number one isn't about holding the break end of the rope

    • @brianbeckenbaugh4233
      @brianbeckenbaugh4233 4 роки тому +21

      “Brake” end of the rope

    • @kd5nrh
      @kd5nrh Рік тому +1

      Better yet, hold both ends of the rope about two feet from the grigri, and beat a Petzl engineer with it while playing 4:08 - 4:12 on repeat and screaming "DO BETTER!"

  • @sajobandi
    @sajobandi 5 років тому +237

    I love how this is the same guy as the world’s best belayer. He’s come a long way!

  • @schlaznger8049
    @schlaznger8049 8 років тому +753

    You figure after 2 or three falls she would stop climbing with this guy.

    • @erickstamand
      @erickstamand 7 років тому +54

      I've been belayed by a bad belayer before. You don't even need a fall. You just see his technique and think "Well, I'll just climb down"

    • @robpatton5913
      @robpatton5913 7 років тому +7

      right! the third one is her fault.

    • @user-qj8yp3qf2l
      @user-qj8yp3qf2l 5 років тому +1

      @@erickstamand Climb down by yourself climbing))

    • @jamesfischer8667
      @jamesfischer8667 5 років тому

      @@robpatton5913 I don't want to victim blame but I have to agree with Rob here

    • @TrackpadProductions
      @TrackpadProductions 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah, no, it's definitely his fault. That's literally the point.

  • @huberttrocks
    @huberttrocks 8 років тому +295

    Wtf the guy at the end belaying and playing THE FLUTE?

  • @doms.6701
    @doms.6701 7 років тому +32

    The end with real climbers was the most frustrating part of this video.

    • @Neil_MALTHUS
      @Neil_MALTHUS 2 роки тому +1

      Real climbers or just real people acting like climbers with bad habits? Of course, whilst bad belayers will exist, you can't tell if anyone in a vid is merely acting or not.

  • @nerfzinet
    @nerfzinet 8 років тому +384

    Every single one of these are exactly the same. You could boil this entire video down to "Hold the brake end of the rope.".

    • @johnliungman1333
      @johnliungman1333 6 років тому +46

      Repetition, the mother of learning! :-)

    • @tj6111
      @tj6111 6 років тому

      @nerfzinet exactly.

    • @yaksvk
      @yaksvk 5 років тому +6

      One more thing actually, with many belay devices you need to hold the braking end of the rope and hold it below the belay device.

    • @marchofthelorex238
      @marchofthelorex238 5 років тому +11

      And here we see why years later these accidents still continue to happen. Repetition is important.

    • @thysonsacclaim
      @thysonsacclaim 4 роки тому +4

      That was intentional because PEOPLE STILL DON'T DO IT RIGHT--as the end of the video shows.

  • @xPandastic
    @xPandastic 8 років тому +190

    when the dummy falls i crack up everytime, too funny xDDD

  • @BerndThomasSchuller
    @BerndThomasSchuller 10 років тому +101

    Great video! His biggest mistake was to check out other female climbers while belaying Nina Caprez! Seriously, who would do that :-D

  • @SnowRaven1
    @SnowRaven1 10 років тому +13

    Amazing.
    Petzl, setting the bar high, in a humerous way as per usual.

    • @brianwarshow129
      @brianwarshow129 4 роки тому

      Setting the bar as low as it gets with climbing gear.

  • @gfunkonthecheesetree
    @gfunkonthecheesetree 8 років тому +13

    Nice bit at the end about tying a knot at the end of the rope and how to belay with a GRIGRI. They never mentioned this in our lead belay class in the gym.

  • @josheadanks9418
    @josheadanks9418 7 років тому +39

    i took a 25 ft fall back in July with my brother belaying me (I trained him with an ATC using BUS), the wall we were at required use of their Gri Gri set up and a Slip Slap Slide belay technique on our 2nd run on the way down his rope snagged under the . arm and i hit full force into 2 inches of plastic mulch ( no crash pads or soft landing surface) thankfully i still walked away but still did some permanent damange. the gym's first response after i decked was to yell at my brother from the desk, and accuse him of opening the brake too far. and then a couple minutes walked from their desk to see if i needed medical assistance. i still have to walk with a cane some days and have trouble laying on my back.
    Lesson: trust the way you are most comfortable belaying, and do not trust wholly in autolockers

    • @ferencmarko2806
      @ferencmarko2806 7 років тому +10

      .......or let those belay how they want to and are most comfortable with provided the rope is tended to properly and the belay device in question is not manipulated improperly.

    • @Aaron-xq6hv
      @Aaron-xq6hv Рік тому

      Six years later, but the A in ABD does not stand for "Auto" but "Assisted".

  • @rinnx1238
    @rinnx1238 5 років тому +13

    I remember I was doing high elements (An obstacle course about 3 storeys high) when I was about 15 years old, the rain just stopped and the course was wet and hard to balance. The belayer was a middle aged man with another man acting as an anchor. Though when I slipped and fell, the belayer didn't stop me from falling by pulling on the rope and when I was about a meter from the ground, I suddenly stopped and got wedgied really hard, turns out the anchor guy was smart and grabbed the rope in time but unfortunately he had major rope burns

  • @boulderhead7014
    @boulderhead7014 10 років тому +105

    The portion from 8:00 to 8:11 is the scariest ...

    • @AstrumG2V
      @AstrumG2V 9 років тому +1

      Omg... >

    • @rushthezeppelin
      @rushthezeppelin 9 років тому +40

      If I ever see a guy pull out a flute while belaying me, I'm anchoring, getting another person on my rope and as soon as I get down that guy gets decked in the face.

    • @hqbattery
      @hqbattery 6 років тому +8

      lol first note i hear im fucking him up

  • @millacabral9475
    @millacabral9475 8 років тому +124

    I love this video the falls are fucking hilarious hahahaha

  • @Adwana
    @Adwana 9 років тому +63

    This was so god damn funny, but at he same time dead serious.

  • @silkroad1201
    @silkroad1201 4 роки тому +11

    There's this cool trick where if your climber is stalling and you want them start climbing again, just look away for a second.

  • @touge242
    @touge242 8 років тому +122

    holly damn. I'm never getting a belay from strangers

    • @gfunkonthecheesetree
      @gfunkonthecheesetree 8 років тому +32

      +Placeholder seeing the belayers at the end in real situations scared me

    • @DK0207
      @DK0207 8 років тому +1

      +gfunkonthecheesetree
      None of them is using a tuber ...

    • @cameronjacobcorns9034
      @cameronjacobcorns9034 7 років тому +4

      people I have known for years I won't let belay me just don't fully trust them

    • @lolaharwood4702
      @lolaharwood4702 5 років тому +3

      @@cameronjacobcorns9034 gotta trust em with ur life cos thats what ur putting in their hands

  • @civedm
    @civedm 9 років тому +18

    So hilarious!!! Best part is when she first falls... she climbs again! LOL. This was so awesomely good.

  • @WhyKnot
    @WhyKnot 9 років тому +45

    A gri gri? I would have called it a chazwazza.

  • @Eulsam_FZ
    @Eulsam_FZ 6 років тому +16

    It drives me nuts to see how often this happens at my gym. We once had a dad take his hands off the rope to take a picture of his son hanging off the top. Up until that point, everything was textbook for 3 or so months.

    • @lenkarimska4940
      @lenkarimska4940 Рік тому +5

      I saw a dad doing the same thing outside with a tube belay device. The kid shouted at him: 'stop taking pictures of me, you should be belaying me!!!' Sometimes children are more sensible than adults.

  • @SlightlyOverripeAvocado
    @SlightlyOverripeAvocado 8 років тому +17

    The guy at the end playing flute! Smh

  • @neiladlington950
    @neiladlington950 8 років тому +11

    When choosing a belayer never use one who has previously been the cause of a lengthy stay in in a hospital.

  • @charlesstonebridge525
    @charlesstonebridge525 5 років тому +17

    how do i get a petzl skull and crossbones shirt?

  • @AGH331
    @AGH331 8 років тому +24

    8:09 - typical outdoor hipster spotted.

  • @troutmouthh
    @troutmouthh 5 років тому +4

    I remember when I was in a class and we were learning to belay, and the guy who was belaying me did THE MOST CHOPPY LOWERING JOB HAVE EVER SEEN! He dropped me about 7 feet, then stopped for like, 3 minutes, and continued until I was on the ground. Never again!

  • @Dave-uniquenamehere
    @Dave-uniquenamehere 10 років тому +8

    This is the kind of safety video I would remember the info from.
    Yet very recent safety videos I have watched for real world scenarios, I have forgotten some of I bet because I was bored.

  • @jamalpalic1028
    @jamalpalic1028 5 років тому +3

    i have been by an accident caused by point 7. Since that, always make a knot at the end of the rope

  • @falconheavy595
    @falconheavy595 Рік тому +2

    let's be honest, the best grigri tutorial on the whole internet

  • @aaronhawley4123
    @aaronhawley4123 5 років тому +3

    notice: if you see this man in any gym or outdoor climbing area, do not under any circumstances let him belay anyone. Failure to follow this guideline may result in death or serious injury.

  • @davekuss
    @davekuss 10 років тому +3

    That video is just spot on, if you want to be a climber you gotta do the basics right first. I just loved the over dramatize storytelling to boot

  • @joe-of8gu
    @joe-of8gu 5 років тому +3

    Thanks for the tips! Except I never heard of belaying before this video, and I have only gone climbing once or twice.

  • @johnsmith8981
    @johnsmith8981 Рік тому +2

    Lol in their best belayer video the dude has all pretzel gear and then this guy comes in with black diamond stuff. Subtle Pretzel 🤣

  • @adamatch9624
    @adamatch9624 3 роки тому +2

    I find it funny people are getting mad at this like it is obviously a joke. People will be more likely to remember something if they learned it in a fun way rather then a boring way

  • @earlgrey2130
    @earlgrey2130 8 років тому +10

    So basically.. just learn how to do it correctly right from the start and always do it like that. Voila. Practice makes perfect.

  • @cheetahthecat647
    @cheetahthecat647 Рік тому +1

    At 1:56:
    "Hi Mom! I'm doing well, and you?"
    "No, not radishes again, I ate them yesterday."
    Climber: "Ahhh!"
    "Ahhh!"
    "Mom?"

  • @gr8o2h2o
    @gr8o2h2o 8 років тому +18

    Great production! Hilarious!

  • @timothy-9995
    @timothy-9995 5 років тому +7

    Is there a behind the scenes.

  • @dullapple
    @dullapple 3 роки тому +2

    Tldr don't hold the climbers side of the rope hold the breaking part of the rope

  • @TordStromberg
    @TordStromberg 10 років тому +1

    How not to do movies are rare... Well done!

  • @mannybalderas9442
    @mannybalderas9442 7 років тому +4

    omg real MVP this lady for taking those whippers for the sake of the video!

  • @jasperfeldschuh3644
    @jasperfeldschuh3644 5 років тому +2

    lol the cross loading at 4:01

  • @inckblog
    @inckblog 10 років тому +1

    I love this video. Very well done, thanks guys!!

  • @nickthetait
    @nickthetait 10 років тому +3

    Like, fave, & sub'd. Thanks PetzlCrew for such an instructional and hilarious video!

  • @Squids_Vlogs
    @Squids_Vlogs 10 років тому +16

    this was soo funny and good!

  • @thatkidwhoclimbs1505
    @thatkidwhoclimbs1505 7 років тому +1

    how scary this must have to been to film😨

  • @rinky_dinky
    @rinky_dinky 9 років тому +7

    its called a gri gri?? thats interesting , a gri gri is a voodoo protection talisman

    • @Skyfox94
      @Skyfox94 8 років тому +3

      +Astrum G2V Well ... whoever it was he obviously wasn't as smart as the guy who named the SMART.

    • @AstrumG2V
      @AstrumG2V 8 років тому +1

      Skyfox94 .... touche.

  • @ElLuben
    @ElLuben 7 років тому +4

    8:10 what the fuck? HE IS PLAYING THE FLUTE :D

  • @ecopsher
    @ecopsher 8 років тому +1

    I still see people at my gym and local crags doing Act 1 and belaying with their brake hand up. They think their technique is faster or something. Sometimes I want to just come up to them when they're not belaying and tell them that what they're doing is unsafe.

    • @Smallfrye
      @Smallfrye 8 років тому +1

      +ecopsher To be fair to them, I was at first taught that method of belaying. But soon learned the actually safe method. They might've just been taught wrong. So maybe you should tell them what they're doing is unsafe. If someone hadn't told me I would've kept belaying that way.

    • @panda-bm4de
      @panda-bm4de 8 років тому +4

      +N3rdHD I think many of these people were used to belay with Munter Hitch, where holding the brake hand up is the proper way (it creates more friction actually).

    • @angrybirder9983
      @angrybirder9983 2 роки тому

      @@panda-bm4de Both 1 and 2 are mostly fine with a munter hitch. But not with anything else.

  • @22RedEyeJedi22
    @22RedEyeJedi22 5 років тому +2

    I must be super tired because i think it is soooo funny!!!! i want to cry! great faces from the belayer!

  • @Chefsache87
    @Chefsache87 9 років тому +7

    I love the puppet :D

  • @qnko9s
    @qnko9s 6 років тому

    Nina Caprez you are so sturdy!

  • @rumiexistence
    @rumiexistence 8 років тому +4

    Behold: the worlds worst belayer!!!
    ...10 seconds later
    Start by giving him the right equipment.

  • @Bushchannel
    @Bushchannel 10 років тому +1

    Someone should fall down wearing heavy steel capped boots & land on that idiots head; but first say to him, "your Mum wants you to remove your helmet".

  • @dfapetrie
    @dfapetrie 8 років тому +1

    informative AND entertaining! awesome

  • @BzAdt
    @BzAdt Рік тому

    Hilarious vid. Like an SNL skit, if SNL skits were (still) funny. Also, did this guy strap a salami on before the shoot?

  • @TitaniusAnglesmith
    @TitaniusAnglesmith 3 роки тому +1

    Damn he packing that schmeat.

  • @jamisonmouratov3619
    @jamisonmouratov3619 7 років тому +1

    There's a small 5th grader in my climbing class (We do top-rope) but even so, he just JUMPS around and tries to 'swing' with NO HANDS on the belay. Wonder why his best friend never wants to climb with him :/

    • @deci7444
      @deci7444 5 років тому

      TrueRatchet in mine its age 15+ which makes it 1000 times better, no screaming kids and basically only adults who are mature and want to learn

  • @rafaelgomez1284
    @rafaelgomez1284 11 місяців тому +1

    This are the kind of guy (they call themselves "mountaineers) that goes on Everest summit tours ?

  • @keanuchungusmode9453
    @keanuchungusmode9453 9 місяців тому

    those screams will haunt me tonight.

  • @randompersonoverhere
    @randompersonoverhere 4 роки тому +1

    No Nina was harmed during this production.

  • @sriderhi8784
    @sriderhi8784 3 роки тому +1

    Old vid I know. But I still want that belayer's t-shirt. :)

  • @alek-by7rm
    @alek-by7rm 5 років тому

    That's one hell of an Ecrin Roc!

  • @N1ghtcr4wl
    @N1ghtcr4wl 10 років тому +3

    I want that t-shirt!

  • @GarryReyom
    @GarryReyom 6 років тому

    I can’t decide if the fall would hurt more or the rope burn

  • @fishchikin
    @fishchikin 4 роки тому +1

    why does she keep going up???

  • @karateman21874
    @karateman21874 3 роки тому +1

    She really should climb within her grade

  • @SgtEcureuil
    @SgtEcureuil 7 років тому +4

    DAT package tho'

  • @Nate-sh1wi
    @Nate-sh1wi 6 років тому

    This happened to me at a camp once, I fell 2 stories onto my back on wood. Ouch.

  • @leifnyland3767
    @leifnyland3767 7 років тому +2

    One simple answer. Make sure that they are belay certified

  • @ElementsBJJCanada
    @ElementsBJJCanada 10 років тому

    Thanks this is perfect for a newbie!

  • @LePatSiOnliOne
    @LePatSiOnliOne 8 років тому +4

    This video feels totally awkward too watch

  • @hidden2580
    @hidden2580 6 років тому

    i feel sorry for the person that had to untie the knot after filming this

  • @brende8150
    @brende8150 6 років тому

    6:28 this happened to a friend of the once luckily he survived and didn't get harmed but nobody trusts the guy who did that to him not anymore

  • @rebshannonling
    @rebshannonling 4 місяці тому

    This video is 10 years old but I still see belay horror stories in 2024! 😅😅😅😅

  • @TheRockingWeekends
    @TheRockingWeekends 6 років тому

    Great stuff!

  • @jonjonleluxo
    @jonjonleluxo 10 років тому

    i go there this afternoon awsome spot

  • @OllieDraws
    @OllieDraws 4 роки тому +1

    I never thought anyone could be as bad at belaying as this shows

  • @TacoDude314
    @TacoDude314 5 років тому

    So I'm supposed to tie a knot on the climber side and let go?

  • @Fede_uyz
    @Fede_uyz 4 роки тому +1

    What are you are you talking about? The guy's technique was perfect!

  • @mfk12340
    @mfk12340 6 років тому

    I think I've only had one bad mistake, and it wasn't that bad. I guessed the weight of the person I was belaying incorrectly and well I was belaying him on a speed wall in race, he was about 45 feet up and fell. I already had the brake line held down cause I mean that's the correct way to belay. Of course I went off the ground. I went close to 10 or 12 feet up into the air.

  • @andreasbigler1
    @andreasbigler1 10 років тому +4

    this chick must be crash proofed *lol*

  • @happynotnormal
    @happynotnormal 10 років тому +1

    Man if you belay like that you're gonna have some sore hands.

    • @dm139
      @dm139 9 років тому +9

      And some dead climbing partners..

  • @jliebss_
    @jliebss_ 3 роки тому

    So do I hold the break side of the rope or not? Vid was unclear

  • @weedboyx
    @weedboyx 3 роки тому

    5:25 where are their helmet??

  • @ladyj.9350
    @ladyj.9350 7 років тому

    this gives me such anxiety

  • @jimandrews4261
    @jimandrews4261 3 роки тому

    How did she survive all those falls

  • @greatyak
    @greatyak 10 років тому

    Funny and well done!!

  • @dido.the.side.h0646
    @dido.the.side.h0646 5 років тому

    agh this makes me never want to go climbing again... :/

  • @mechmunch
    @mechmunch 10 років тому +1

    well it's all timely I suppose, but if one needs to watch Petzl vids to correct belay technique, then perhaps they shouldn't be belaying...

  • @user9675
    @user9675 4 роки тому +1

    That is one tough girl

  • @riorawlings1324
    @riorawlings1324 10 років тому

    loved this

  • @constantinosschinas4503
    @constantinosschinas4503 2 роки тому +2

    *Act 4 is what almost got me into ground with a grigri and novice user.* Grigri is an automatic device. The only thing that a novice needs to know is that we release the grigri in case of a fall. Releasing both hands is the safest (!) because it is the simplest. Act 4 is too complicated for a novice and can lead to the same reflex, rendering the grigri useless. Better expose yourself to one extremely rare danger, than two, one of which is not so rare... In my case i had to turn around while falling, check my belayer and shouted "take both your hands of the grigri" to save myself. That was because a guy suggested the "correct" way of holding, like in Act 4, which was too complicated for the novice user. Best thing is to understand how things work and suggest what is better for the specific situation or person, not follow the rules. Because these rules do not account for human error...

    • @maxpeterson8616
      @maxpeterson8616 Рік тому +1

      You got seven words out and they had time to react WHILE you were falling?

    • @Aaron-xq6hv
      @Aaron-xq6hv Рік тому +1

      Assisted, not automatic. But also this story sounds extremely made up.

    • @constantinosschinas4503
      @constantinosschinas4503 Рік тому

      @@maxpeterson8616 It is not written words. Verbal commands are much quicker, especially when you mean them... Again, instead of showing disbelief, i suggest understanding the experience shared here through a constructive approach. If you care about your, or other's safety, that is.

    • @constantinosschinas4503
      @constantinosschinas4503 Рік тому

      @@Aaron-xq6hv The story is completely accurate, and very recent. I have been climbing since a kid and it is my natural way of being, not a feat, so no need to brag about anything, especially on youtube. So instead of sharing disbelief, try to share that is more important (and safer) to understand what we do and the consequences, than blindly following vague rules.

  • @jake-ip9vg
    @jake-ip9vg 5 років тому +1

    AlWaYs HoLd ThE bReAk SiDe Of ThE rOpE

  • @benoo258
    @benoo258 10 років тому

    I think good belayer can feel what is his/her purpose, so that he/she doesn't do stupid things like the things shown in video.

  • @pyrotex0751
    @pyrotex0751 4 роки тому

    Petzl: how often do u wanna fall?
    Woman: Yes

  • @max_from_petergof
    @max_from_petergof 5 років тому

    Мне кажется это оскар!

  • @bastienrobin9334
    @bastienrobin9334 4 роки тому +6

    Les français savent mdr
    Quel accent xD

  • @LeCaNiVideos
    @LeCaNiVideos 6 років тому

    That's what we call a Betrayer.

  • @kobayashimaru8114
    @kobayashimaru8114 7 років тому +1

    bahaha that was jokes. The part about the gre gri is true though. I was dropped indoors once and stopped inches from the ground only because my belayer burned his palms and let go of everything.