Huge ribbon burner forge build part 3
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2021
- In this 3 part video series I will be building a big gas forge to use for blacksmithing. It will run on propane gas and uses a type of burner called a ribbon burner.
This large forge will come in handy for various different upcoming projects that I have planned.
I will also be building a smaller forge for smaller projects.
If you have any question about the forge or the building process feel free to ask me in the comments. - Ігри
That’s the nicest and most professional forge build on UA-cam! Bravo! Great job! 👍
It was a lot of fun to build and thank you for the kind words!
Without a doubt the nicest forge on earth!
@@lukelofgren4108 Thanks!
@@Robenbuilds absolutely! I might have to steal an idea or 2 from you when I build my next forge. I really wish UA-cam would let people post pictures in the comments so we could all share our projects
@@lukelofgren4108 Yea it would nice to have some message feature here on youtube that would allow for that! Maybe even some sort of community system where people can talk and hang out and share project pictures!
Fantastic build...very nice shop too..👍
That is incredible. Fantastic build
Thanks!
excellent job
Thank you!
This forge is more like a work of art well biuld just amazing to watch.
I'll echo some of the other comments on here. Very nice build. One of the better that I have seen.
Thanks, It makes me happy to hear that!
We have a ThatWorks in the making!
Let's not get ahead of ourselves 😅
Beautiful forge, your hard work and attention to detail paid off
Thanks! :)
Your craftsmanship and pride show and is excellent! Keep up the great work!
Thank you, it means a lot!
Wow! what a build!
I now see why you sub frame is so heavy duty. Excellent video. Thank you.
With the refractory cement It got really heavy and thankfully I overbuild everything anyways haha
I think this will last a lifetime! Great job!!
Thanks!
Awesome build!
Thanks!
That was awesome!
Thanks, glad you liked it!
Watched all three episodes, Cracking job on that Roben, Looking round UA-cam for different ideas on a ribbon burner forge and yours is awesome.. Very professional job on that!! Subscribed!
Thank you!
you did a amazing job fabricating that forge i have a small ribbon burner forge i need to setup this spring beautiful work im in awe 👍👍👍
Thank you! Good luck on your upcoming forge build!
@@Robenbuilds may i ask do you use a mig tip for the gas or just drill a hole what is a good size for a nozzle ??
@@Anderson-HandForged I just answered this to your previous comment on the part 2 video :)
Very nice
The best I've ever seen. Perfect design. Solid material. thanks for sharing!
Thank you! It was a fun build!
Yes, nicest job I've seen on UA-cam. Well thought out.
Awesome work. If your not proud of it I am. Great design work, layout, fabrication and attention to detail. A joy to watch. You made me late to work. 😂. Looking forward to future videos.
Your forge is the most systematic build I've ever seen. That blower is huge. Is there any benefit?
Thanks, I spent a lot of time on making all of the building steps as visually obvious as possible :) I was going to use a smaller blower at first but after doing some tests I noticed that it did not have enough static pressure and I needed something more powerfull, volume of air was not the problem but static pressure was. It was really hard to find blowers with the static pressure (Pa) mentioned in the specs so there wasn't alot of obvious options. The larger blower I am using in the video is overkill for this burner but I just couldn't find something that was just right.
Wow
Fantastic build. Question, I'm looking to try and make a first mini burner, my bench test showed that perforated metal grate works fine to achieve a mini burner using a propane/MAP torch as the gas source. Should I stick with that, or maybe try drilling holes in a fire brick then mounting a metal gas distributing block from the back? Refractory cement has been hard/expensive to come by locally so reluctant to use the straw type cast unit at this early stage.
really nice build. i did pretty much the same... exept it looks like the post-apocalyptic version xD
what's the power of the blower? i am yet to get one and i can't find much info online if 150W is enough...
Eyy thanks! Haha, yea I should've gone for that apocalypse aestetic aswell, would have saved a lot of time. I did get a little carried away with making it look good and clean which in hindsight isn't really worth the effort because a forge will degrade visually very quickly from using it. But now I know where to spend the effort for the next time I build something similar! I can't remember what the exact number is for the blower but because of how I built the burner I needed a pretty powerful blower that could output a little bit more static preasure then you normally would need for a ribbon burner. I first had a weaker blower that I tried using and I wasn't happy with the amount of air I was getting from that so I uprgraded the blower and went a little overboard with the specs and was hoping that my gate valve that I use to control the air was going to allow me to fine tune the flame, which it did. All burners are different unless you make one exactly the same with measurements and everything. It's unfortunate but it's kind of a trial and error in that sense. Sorry for the paragraf lol
@@Robenbuilds No worries, its cool to have the full thoughts behind this, and its really appreciable that you took the time to answer :)
In the meantime i got to do more searching and managed to get a more precise idea of what i needed.
Also about the look of my forge its post apocalypic... not in the cool way, but rahter the crude way xD. i did an "ok" job, its certainly not on the level of whay you or some other people around might have done but i'm sure it will work just fine for what i need, testing will begin next week, just have to get the ribbon burner and the pipeworks done, since i've been only forging with coal so far its all pretty new to me.
Regardless, whenever i'll have to build another one it will come in handy to have various sources and examples (and trial by error, as you mentioned it) of what can be done to make the right thing you needed. Your video helps a lot in that way :)
I really like your build. Will you be posting more videos on here?
Thanks, I'm glad you like it!
Yes! I'm currently working on editing and finishing off the last part of another video! I'm going to try and be quicker with the uploads in the future but It's really hard to balance real life with video making. When you are filming and editing projects they take thrice as much time.
@@Robenbuilds thank you for taking time to reply. I totally understand how difficult it can be to balance home and work life. No worries about how quick you upload. I'm sure it will be great and informative and I look forward to seeing what you can do. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
I’ve watched your build series many times. I’d like to hear what you think about your forge now that you’ve operated it for a while. Would you change anything? Have you already?
Wow that is really nice, a work of art…….My only question is what is the inside dimensions of your forge, I’m making one and wanted a good idea of the size, thanks
Hi Roben - You made the awesome elegant project I've seen last years, in forges!
Our conceptions are the same, but the volume of work, molds, etc just for one forge (despite the proudness for the job), seems to be insanity (but it made you proud - ok?).
The inlet gas orifice - I generally use aproximately 5 mm and use high pressure gas valve at gas tank. No gauges, no unecessary devices - but a system temperature controll as a gas solenoid plus a thermopair might be good acquisition.
Had you sometimes measured the gas consuption per hour and maximum temperature?
My congratulations for the work and thanks for sharing
Hello very professional projekt! How long and what temperature you use to dry the forge? Did you use 50mm ceramicwool? Thank you for the documentation!
Thank you!
Yes I'm using 50mm ceramic wool. As for the curing of the refractory, I took the forge outside of the workshop and started a small wood fire on a steel pan on top of a couple of refractory bricks with the forge doors almost closed. I gradually made the fire more intense and then started adding charcoal for it to burn hotter. Eventually I added some air with a hair dryer through the opening in the forge door to supply more air to the fire to make it burn even hotter. I did all of this over several hours and I was monitoring the temperature with a IR thermometer. I think I brought it up to 650-700 degrees *C. After that I cleaned out the inside of the forge from ash and added the pipes and fittings for the propane and did a slow burn in with the installed ribbon burner. It was a long and messy process so I never included that in the videos haha.
nice build ! how many psi did it need ?
Huge:-)!!! Hat Nozzle diameter you are useing for the burner?
Great build! What are the inside dimensions? Opening and length, thanks! :)
Do you need the ceramic insulation. Or can you just use the cement?
Technically you can but it will not be a very efficent insulator. The ceramic wool is a better insulator then the castable refractory cement and using both not only makes the insulating properties better but the refractory cement will also protect the ceramic wool from the dirrect flame. Ceramic wool is not made to be in dirrect contact with flames and will farily quickly deteriorate. If I was only able to use one insulator and couldn't get my hands on refractory cement I would go with ceramic wool and then get some high temperature rated fire bricks to protect the wool. Another thing that I've noticed with having this much refractory cement is that it becomes a big thermal mass and having that heat be insulated by the wool means more heat stays in the forge and that is where we want the heat to be :)
You didn’t use any sort of gas orifice inside the air tube right? It’s just piped straight in? I’ve seen a lot of guys buy some sort of orifice to inject the propane into the center of the air pipe but it seems superfluous to me. It’s all getting mixed up anyway before it comes out of the burner. Also The valve in your airline, I assume thats for when you shut the forge down so it doesn’t send hot air back to your blower and destroy it?
Hey! That is correct, I didn't use a small directed orifice to inject the propane into the big pipe. My thought process was that there is no need to do that since the amount of airflow from the blower will just take any propane with it up to the static mixer and then into the burner. The big valve on the airline is a gate valve that I use to control the amount of air that is added to the mix. This paired with the needle valve on the propane line gives me full control over the mixture of air to fuel. When everything is off I have not noticed any insane amount of heat going back down the pipes and into the blower, if you have a shorter pipe without as many bends I can imagine that it could become a problem but not in my case
Where did you buy the refractory cement and blanket from i can not find it at a good cost
I bought them from a local company here in Sweden. A good cost is relative to where you live and your personal economy and these refractory materials (at least from my experience) is inherently expensive. I wanted to build a forge that I knew would last for a long time so I wasn't afraid of a little more investment.
Where could I get the plans for a forge like that and how much did it cost you to make it?
This is my own design and I never thought anyone would want to replicate this project so I never made any plans for it. However I will make plans for some of my future tool-like projects that I will also make videos of. When it comes to the cost, the biggest investment is for sure the castable refractory cement and the ceramic wool. The only other building material I bought was the fan and a 2000x1000x5 mm steel plate and some random hardware. I also used a lot of "scrap" materials that I already had for this project. I built this spaced out over 6 months whenever I had some spare cash and time to continue building so I don't know the exact amount that I spent on the project, but I'm happy with the result :)
@@Robenbuilds thank you so much for the inspiration on my next forge. Yours turned out amazing and I can't wait to see some of the projects you make using it
I have just built a long ribbon burner. But I am having trouble tuning it. At what PSI are you running the propane?
Hey, I'm using a propane rated needle valve for the fuel and a gate valve for the air and this makes me able to fine tune the mixture really well. Inside the big pipe I put a "static mixer" to make sure the propane is completley mixed with the air. I also have a baffle plate inside of the burner with a few holes in it to distribute the fuel evenly over all of the exit holes of the burner (this is important). I currently don't have a preassure guage after my needle valve, and due to the exact setup I can't use one unless I change how the propane injection currently works. I Might change this later on and add a pressure guage if I find it necessary.
Very nice but the most over kill I have ever seen
Thanks! This is just how I like to do things!
However I do agree that I overbuilt this forge and that you can get the same results in terms of heating steel with a way less complicated build.
But I do get enjoyment out of making things as good as possible with whatever tools I have available, which at the end of the day is really what it's all about! :)
how many refractory cement need for this build? i only have one 25kg bag left.
I probably used like 4.5 x 25 kg bags for this build
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Willing to make another on a smaller scale I’m looking to buy one