The Best Ribbon Burner Forge Build
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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In this video we make our brand new gas forge from start to finish from an old round tank. We use a Ribbon Burner from Pine Ridge and all the piping and the blower are from them as well. All we had to do is cast some refractory and make it look pretty with some hand forged hinges and some handles. We just had to do some blacksmithed items on the forge. If you ever wanted to know how to make a propane forge, this is the video for you!
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Ilya you knucklehead!!!! Use your grinder guard!!!! Or don't you care about your body not being shredded by a grinder disk ???
Ilya's a professional and a Forged in Fire champion he can do what he wants (probably) XD
Why not make the forge with all castable refractory and not with the kaowool?
With the shop looking like its coming together, I hope that means we will see more frequent content being released on the channel. I just love watching this kind of stuff.
"The most important part of a forge is the front door" take notes Alec
I am convinced that Alec has the doors made, he is just letting the gag continue as long as possible.
:-)
A comment I was going to post :D
We all had the same thought it seems lol
Yeah that was my thought too. That forge looks like just about anything can be made in it
Best part, forging that beautiful hinge...
I died at the addidas power hammer.
True Slav style xD
I like the tip on welding on the screws to hold the insulation. Nice forge! Good job guys!
Wow love that forge one day I would like to go to a ribbon burner forge. Well done. Hope to see more use of this forge.
What an epic forge I need to build this. It would be my forever forge.
Cool that makes me want to make one to go with my coal forge. Now make the sword of Goujian
Nice! It’s power hammer time! I’ve never seen a ribbon burner. Very cool. Thanks for the video
The music is great too!
I laughed when I seen him wear a respirator when using the angle grinder and nothing when cutting the wool.... I would have done the exact opposite 😂
I love how the music sounds like an 80s movie. 😎
Compressing the wholl by packing cement over it wont diminish its insulating properties?
What type of refractory casting cement did you use?
this is going to be my first forge
Yes!!! Why am I just now finding this channel?
Sweet hinges!
not to be a safety sally here but it always makes me wince when i see someone grinding with their face directly in line with the wheel.
Curious what the benefit of installing the burner at an off center angle instead of directly above to the bottom of the forge cylinder where the materials to be heated will naturally settle?
Inside superheated air will swirl, making for more consistent temps.
Yeah, i think the air flow is less caotic (and therefore more homogeneous) if you force it to vortex in one direction
I see. That make a lot of sense. Thanks.
очень круто , спасибо вам ребята ! very cool, thank you guys !
Ilya's soundtrack should be Tri Poloski
What did you guys use for the floor, just a hard brick shaped to the contour of the forge? Great video btw
Not sure tapping with a hammer sufficient, I think using a sawzall with blade removed would work awsome for getting bubbles out.
That would do the trick as well but 3+ years later and the forge is still running strong
hey guys, not trying to be a troll, but white teflon tape is only rated for water connections, not gas connections, you should really be useing the yellow teflon tape for this
IIRC from my studies in building- and energyengineering the yellow is required so that even if the steel pipe isn't yellow a technician can stop before he anglegrinds on the wrong pipe. The properties of the tape are exactly the same.
Yellow tape is a thicker form of low density PTFE tape, white tape is thinner, and pink is high density PTFE tape.
The thicker tape should be more likely to assure there’s no gas leak. Connections should still be tested for leaks though of course.
Pink is just to make it easier to unscrew the pipe later.
There’s really nothing inherently different about them if you use them right.
Personally I only use pipe dope.
Second on the if it's gas it gets pipe dope
@@StopTryingSoHard holyshit, why the hell nobody taught me that in school. thank for sharing your knowledge
What was the refractory and where did you purchase it?
What is a good size for a startup forge using propane and how much would it cost to make?
Gooooooooood
What kind of tank did you use? What would you recommend, and what are the dimensions on this?
Very cool
Вариант горелки интересный👍💥⚒️
I hope you guys one day do a collab with Alec Steele. My two favorite blacksmithing channels together would be glorious
Неплохо получилось. Горелка вообще жесть.
are you guys going to continue making stuff on Man art arms and continue doing this channel as well?
Jon Rybicki we will be doing big full builds on this channel!
is that 1 inch kao or 2 in?
I missed it, what did this tank start life as, a water heater?
Is that the GH or LP burner you are using? If it’s the larger GH will the LP still get hot enough to forge weld?
What are the costs of presentet set up, botch witch purchase and exploitation?
Got to appreciate the tri poloski on your squat power hammer.
I been checking online watching videos and everyone says something different. Yours looks like 8 in burner with 4-5 inch on Both sides but others say leave an inch or 2 in bother sides. Is it the pine ridge Burner that lets you do that? You guys don’t answer these but I’m tired of reading forms I asked pine ridge guess I’ll find out.
Do you have to special order refractory cement or can you get it at places like Home Depot?
Yes you have to special order the refractory cement. I used Mizzou to make my burner and to line my forge.
Does the shape of the forge matter a lot? I know size wise it does depending on your weapon
Cylinders have less surface area for a given volume which gives you a larger more efficient forge while using less of the moderately costly insulation. A round inside to your forge also allows for a more even temperature in the forge.
Awesome forge. Getting a ribbon burner as soon as I get my bonus. LOL nice Adidas stripes. Your Russianness is showing proudly.
Why does your angle-grinder doesn't have a safety cover around the back of the cutting disc? It is scary to even look at it
Hey I wanna get started forging but my family doesnt have alot of money so I have a question in tempering process is car oil good?
It's probably better to use vegetable or canola oil. It's safer to use and actually works better.
@@rmunroe102582 thanks
Горелка конечно ах...на...горн тоже неплох...))
I don't have any experience with building metal forges, but plenty with ceramic and glass kilns. Your new forge looks an awful lot like a glassblowing gloryhole btw(and yes that is the actual term). Anyway, I'm pretty sure I could build this thing from scratch, burner and everything, but I still appreciate the advice to not make this the first forge a beginner tries to construct. It might not be that complicated, but I can tell it's the kind of project that you'll be much happier with if you work some of the kinks out on cheaper, simpler, and more temporary forge structures first.
Safety first. You should really use a guard on that grinder. If you have ever seen on blow up and strike flesh you will never use one without again.
Is man at arms reforged coming back?
Anyone else say "What the Jesus Christ???" when that power hammer hit that steel? >.>
I didnt realize it was a commercial until the end.
Hard to beat a ribbon burner forge if it's all done right
Caveat is gotta run electric blower for constant air pressure.
However a good thinking Smith can work around this. The burner is generally a separate unit from the forge body. As such it would be simple and wise choice to get a setup w atmospheric burner to set in place of the ribbon burner set up for those times when you cant have power. Yup added cost but also added value.
🙏be blessed yall now
Merry Christ Mass season greetings happy Yuletide celebration, hannukah, quanza and all such
Crawford out 🧙♂️
Nice forge. Took look at the sponsor's site, and frankly it looks like they're soaking people on anything that isn't the burner or a blower. Far as I've checked, you can get everything else at half the price or less.
Adidas stripes on your power hammer... Of course.
you should watched @alecsteele built his forge
#alecsteele this is a burner with doors . Simples.
We all preach safety as creators, same goes for me, but seriously guys wtf is up with the grinder with no guard are you kidding me? Wow
where are you guys? I don't think that's BKS...
Seeing no guard on that angle grinder makes me nervous.
Efficiency of K wool impaired by compression
RIP ant.
Slav squat power hammer at 21:52 hammers when it squats
Slav power hammer made from pure Stalenium.
I think that you can actually make it
Пластик из сколково прислали, не иначе.
this should have an adult rating. It's just iron porn!
Thanks for using spoken language in your video. So frustrating to see a great video with no audio context. Outstanding forge.
You get a thumbs down for assuming everyone that views this video “can’t” do what you just did
Simple builds actually
Now if you really want it a bit more challenging you would have a pressure switch ,solenoid , thermal couple,and a PID for safety and control 👌💪🏻
I looked up pine ridge burners and the web page is black.
www.pineridgeburner.com/
your shop is so dark!
I think the camera has its settings deliberately darkened so the bright light coming off the hot metal doesn't blow out its sensors.
Black Smith uses forge knowledge to make forge
how meta
those burners and everything u have to get to build it is not worth it at all. I rather have the regular burners and save $1,000 and will get just as hot with 3 burner setup. just wasted money
Really sick of these joe biden ads.
Bro throw on some gloves and a face shield when you're running an angle grinder.
Hes wearing glasses and a respirator dog dont be such a pusssy
@@TheFalloutization When one of them discs detonates into your face at 2500fps you wont be calling anyone a pussy but yourself.
their website doesn't seem to work
How much time will it run until it needs maintenance?
Shouldn't you be wearing a respirator when working with K wool?
Yeah my thoughts exactly
@@markadams1165 honestly asking for my own benefit because I don't know. I've seen both.
It is recommended to work with a respirator and gloves, since koa wool is a bunch of micro fibers
Also in the line of the cutoff wheel with no guard.. also welding bare handed... Slav safety squints must be enough
Do as we say, not as we do! Always use proper safety gear!
those burners and everything u have to get to build it is not worth it at all. I rather have the regular burners and save $1,000 and will get just as hot with 3 burner setup. just wasted money
Hey stop pulling my leg here! That's not a forge that's a housing for a dragon you're hiding from everyone..
Tracer : I'll bet you watch "Shadiversity"
I just started cringing when you guys were handling and cutting the wool with no safety gear , good lord youre asking for problems ...
14:40 fast pace cement patting is now my favorite thing
Notification on power hammer: Don't die.
Me: OK. 😭
An experienced and smart person would know that you mush wear a mask when working with with kaowool
Dont even pretend to act like your more experienced and skilled than him dudr lol
@@TheFalloutization haha dont need to pretend I am a fulltime blacksmith/Bladesmith and very successful might i add
@@mickandkez sounds like bullshit
@@mickandkez might be a full time smith, but it is highly unlikely you are more experienced than him
Matt *has cool new beard*
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forge looks cool too :D.
21:53 The most slav power hammer I've ever seen
You mean Slavhammer?
Awesome forge guys!!
To everyone else, please read all the warnings and instructions for the ceramic wool before you decide on how you want to handle it. In the end it's your decision what you do, but try to make it an informed decision.
Definitely a material that needs to be treated with respect.
Eh, what's a little mesothelioma?
Boy you guys sure make some purdy Fire an' Steel pictures! Back in the day, when Pine Ridge was no more than a gleam in it's father's eye, they had a saying in film schools, "Movies must MOVE!" More UA-cam producers should figure this out. "If the content is moving, keep the camera still; if the content is still, keep the camera moving. If both must be still move the POV Shot/Reverse Shot varying the lengths of the cuts; if both must be moving syncopate the movements between one another." You have this down, so pat yourselves on the back.
Now, the next factor is the audio track. Sound consistency is the big hurdle. Matt's voice went from too treble to too bass. His natural speaking voice is kind of a reedy tenor. This is always a bitch to mike, particularly in sound environments that are excessively live, like most shops. Most of the slicker blacksmith videos get around this with voiceover, which I 'm sure you got very tired of in the past. So did I. But realtime mikeing is a realtime problem. In voiceover sound is information, too much voiceover means sharing too much information. In realtime sound is movement. That's why you have to be either speaking and not working or working and not speaking. Otherwise the movements clash. I don't know what post production resources you have to mix and modify realtime sound but I'd say that's the next videographer's hurdle for you.
You are doing splendidly with music, particularly in the use of syncopating beats and baselines. UA-cam is rich in these resources and I wish more producers were using them as well as you do. This is particularly the case in two areas: slo-mo and the power hammer shooting. Slo-mo has to be watched like a hawk or it slips over into gimmickry. But in the shop context slo-mo gives you far more lucid control of moving objects, coordinating the speed of processes that are difficult to shoot straight because they are either too fast or too slow for realtime treatment. You are making excellent use of the music to keep slo-mo as technique from overpowering what objects in motion the slo-mo is being used for. A music beat that is either a little faster or slower than the slo-mo itself is one the best tools for this. Good job.
Most shots of power hammer work fail to convey the delicacy that the technique is capable of. You are doing excellently here. Having music of multiple beats to match to the fine variations in motions, jumping from one on-beat motion to a different on beat motion, then syncopating the motions back and forth across the beats is something you're getting really, really slick with. Have fun!
Karmakshanti Vyapini thanks man! We are still figuring out some of the audio stuff. It will only get better. Most of this video was shot in a rush, but I do have some big projects coming soon where I cut no corners. I will be interested in hearing your opinions on some of those videos. Thanks for you thought out comment! I will look into your suggestions!
my first thought when ilya was making the door handles was is he making an alice in wonderland themed spear? like the ones from the red queens army
How dose the refractory hold up to cracking and chipping with the K-wool underneath? Seems like it would be like pouring a concrete slab on top of a marshmallow. I have worked with both materials professionally for the past 11years, building and retrofitting various power plant components, and have never seen this attempted. I'm truly curious as to the durability of the insulation. Because if it works well, its a lot better solution for the home-gamer than high temp zinc paint systems that are traditionally used.
Isn't it standard practice to use a hardener for kaowool to prevent the "concrete on marshmallow" effect?
Forging by jet engine damn, looking good. Cant wait to see all the things you make with it.
Nice welding gloves 😂
15:30 hey I use that bowl for making muffins !
Heron Mark Sword-Wheel of Time
Газовый горн заебись получился.
ЗЫ: Мех. молот "Аддидас" я никогда не видел :) Илюха жги!
I may have to borrow some of your methods to upgrade my forge.
Can you explain us the difference between the 2 power hammers types that you are using one day?
Wow, you touched k wool with bare hands?
You guys, are truly artists! Looking forward for more content.
The front hole only needed a square cut out not a rectangle seeing the inner forge refractory hurts my ocd lol 👌🏽👌🏽 nice big forge
Thats what Matt said, but coming from MAN AT ARMS sometimes we forge some large and odd shaped pieces and its nice to have the slot not just a square .
Awesome all the way around guys. Just one note: please use the correct thread seal tape/dope when piping any flammable gas such as propane. I noticed that some of the thread joints were sealed with the appropriate yellow gas-rated tape and the rest appeared to use the standard white teflon tape. While teflon and PTFE are awesome for their intended purposes they fall a little short for gas piping as the petroleum based propane could eventually eat through or gum up the tape enough to allow leaks to develop. No need to state the obvious but a gas leak next to a hot forge would be a bad day for all. There are several good options for tape, I recommend a combination of yellow thread seal tape coupled with a gas-rated pipe "dope" so as to maximize the seals and to make future disassembly easier. Thanks for the content.