Thanks SAC, good video as usual. I like to refer back to where you hypothesised about the airwing on the CV-18 and the CV-16/17. You believe that the CV-18 will have a mix of J-15s (non-EW version) and J-35s, while the STOBAR carriers will continue to operate J-15s only. This view is somewhat at odds with my own. There is a general expectation that the J-35 would be able to take off from a ski-ramp as well, given that they are expected to be lighter than the J-15, which is one of the heaviest carrier fighters in service. The J-35 is also expected to be smaller than the J-15. Wouldn't it make more sense for CV-16/17 to carry J-35s instead of J-15s, given that because they are smaller we can probably pack more airframes in, and the J-35s as 5th gen fighters should be much more capable at least in air combat. I agree that the CV-18 will probably carry a mix of J-15s and J-35s, because the J-15s could be expected to have greater range and payload, and will be more suitable in a strike role, while the J-35s operate mainly in combat air patrol. That said, there is also a case for operating only J-35s, given they are arguable better on balance, all things considered.
Actually, I have argued, in previous briefings, that Liaoning and Shandong will likely be more capable aircraft carriers in the future if they can operate J-35 effectively, so exactly as you say. So I absolutely agree with you. Not only will the smaller footprint of the J-35 probably mean more aircraft can be operated off the STOBAR carriers, but they will also be stealth aircraft. I'll send you the link to the relevant briefing. Additionally, the benefits the J-15 can bring, launched off an EMALS, should not be underestimated. Really appreciate the question. Thank you.
@@Strategy_Analysis Thanks for the great answer, SAC. Now that you mentioned it, I do recall you mentioning the possibility of the J-35 operating off the Liaoning and Shandong. I would be personally quite interested in a detailed brief on some of the high-end Chinese aircrafts (I think this will align with the interest of most of your viewers), so I'll just leave that suggestion here. Don't feel obliged though, of course.
Perhaps the arrival of the carrier-Based AEW Plane Xian KJ-600 would be even more significant than the combination of J-35/J15 fighters in the Fujian Carrier Strike Group. Probably only the Fujian can operate a fully fledged AEW which would be a major force multiplier and a critical piece in fleet defense.
@@tvgerbil1984 Yes, a fixed-wing AEW&C aircraft, in this case the KJ-600, certainly offers more than the Z-18 AEW helicopter. And the KJ-600 is only an option on a CATOBAR carrier like the Fujian, so certainly a force multiplier.
Thanks for the proper analysis and facts, rather than hype / fake news to appeal to the masses in over / understating Chinese military capaiblity. You have earned a sub.
With China still massively producing 052D which is more capable of any aspects than 054A, I doubt that 054A will finally withdraw from Fujian CSG and focus on overseas escort missions. Otherwise it still take 2~3 yrs for Fujian to be in service, I wonder if J-35 could make it to be accepted by PLAN before Fujian is combat ready, since I have seen clear photograph of J35 painted in commission. What's more, several 12 meters diameter pressure hulls were spotted in submarine shipyard, which might indicate the rumored 095 SSN would soonly make a chance to be public. Good analysis by the way.
there will be type 052D destroyers and type 054 frigates in all China's carrier strike groups, in fact there will be 3 or 4 of both, cause China's carrier strike groups are going to be bigger than American carrier strike groups, they will be more like carrier strike group task forces, that means there will be a minimum of 2 type 055 cruisers too, and 2 type 075 LHA ships and at least 1 type 076 LHD and 2 type 071 LPD's, 4 type 056 Corvettes and supply & oiler ships, 2 of each, intel ships and mine layers/clearer ships, and 4 attack submarines
their next supercarrier will be 110,000 tons, be nuclear powered and be 1100 feet long and 260 feet wide, then the next 4 supercarriers will be the same class and will weigh 120,000 tons, be nuclear powered, 1150 feet long and 275 feet wide
Thank you for the comments. 1. Yes the 052D is more capable than the 054A, but it is also more expensive to produce. Might 3 (say) 054A be of more value to the CSG as 2 052Ds? 2, We don't know when the J-35 will be operational, but at this stage it appears as though the timeline will roughly align with the commissioning of the Fujian. 3. When the Type 095 is operational, I would expect it to be operating with the CSGs. Really appreciate the support.
@@ethanmac639 I don't think PLAN will produce much supercarriers as they can at the moment, China need time to get familiar with new CATOBAR system which is no doubt a huge systematic topic. So I think 003 is gonna have a sister ship, after that China will turn its head to nuclear supercarriers.
I believe the Shandong has a bigger hanger space than Liaoning. Remember Liaoning was the old Kuznetsov class and even hough the forward missile silos etc were gutted there were some load bearing bulkheads that couldn't be removed. Shandong on the other hand was a newy built ship and mostly a with design. It's not a total copy of the Liaoning.
Thanks for the comment. Agree Shandong is not an exact copy of the Liaoning. As I mention in the briefing, two very obvious changes are the island and deck area, but the external dimensions appear the same. After examining images of the forward end of the hangar on both ships, they look identical. However, the larger available space on the deck should allow Shandong to operate a few more aircraft than the Liaoning.
Suggestion for a future video: How the PLA might use high endurance UAVs like the WZ-7 to augment its capability to hunt enemy surface combatants, especially in supporting its carrier strike group and utilising its arsenal of long range antiship ballistic missiles, shipborne, air launched, and land based.
Suggestion for a future video: How does the JMSDF operate their fleet- sorry I meant "Flotilla", how do they usually deploy their ships, especially with needing to cover large ocean territories. Do they often go together with their Helicopter Destroyers or some other certain flotilla arrangements? How good are they if they have to counter nations like China or Russia? What sort of actions can they make in reponse to a large naval incursion?
Thank you for the comment. Yes a good idea. I have done a briefing on the INS Vikrant itself which did ok, but a recent briefing on the INS Visakhapatnam did not do so well. Perhaps people aren't interested in it?
@@Strategy_Analysis perhaps a quirk of the algorithm? Or maybe, given the fact that much of your content covers China, your audience prefers to watch videos on China?
@@DomCombatVids Yes, the algorithm has its "quirks" ;) From the briefings I have done so far, you can see I like to cover a broad range of topics, not just China. Having been to India, and conducted engagement with them, I do believe I have some insight.
An excellent question, which is difficult to answer without a scenario to place it against. At its farthest, the Western Pacific, and Eastern Indian Ocean.
South and east china sea ... China has no wish to deploy in the Indian ocean unless needed...or until the Taiwan issue is resolved or china pssesses 6 flat tops... Whichever earlier.
The Americans have quietly upgraded their Tomahawk cruise missiles to Block V for anti-ship capability. The missiles are subsonic but have good range. In particular four Ohio class submarines each can carry up to 154 Tomahawks, making them very dangerous carrier killers if they are deployed to hunt carrier battle group, like one led by the Fujian.
this has to become the basis of the Fijian Carrier Strike Group for April. being drawings of a boat with FPV drones for strike and kites for Air defense roles and their great threat at fighting their primary foe, those greedy seagulls.
just my review on 2:15min for Fujian ship, new Z-20 helicopter will have alot in ASW, COD/SAR version. Z-18 will have limited unit. Submarine will have new 095/096 (in construction)
Yes, I would expect the Type 095 to be escorting the Carrier Strike Group when they are operational. I expect the Z-20 to be a very capable ASW helicopter, however the Z-18 should have better range/payload performance, so I would expect it to be on the carrier.
Not sure what you mean. The carriers available now, or soon, will be Fujian, Shandong and Liaoning. I've covered them in the briefing. And yes, 1 or 2 SSNs (nuclear-powered attack submarines are included. Is this what you mean?
@@q3813 U.S. Navy warships are considered to be sovereign U.S. territory. An attack on one is considered to be the same thing as an attack on the U.S. mainland. If China were foolish enough to launch a ballistic missile at an American warship, it would soon find it's own mainland being obliterated by a massive U.S. nuclear counterattack.
@@fatdoi003 we know both of them can kill each other. But U.S has allot more Destroyers cruiser and carrier. 100% Chinese navy is dead 30% of U.S navy is dead. Remember. China doesn't have more armed ships. They just have allot of small patrol vessel's that makes them have the largest navy in the world
Dedicated flight operations and large trading maintenance budgets will be required to get China where it wants to be. Accidents and real world event experience will have to be earned as it cannot be copied or stolen. Dedication to safety, maintenance fleet operations are strict requirements for a carrier to be effective. We will see if the CCP can deliver this other wise these carriers are just targets.
Wrong fujian 003 is based on the very same Hull of 001 and 002 .in fact the 003 is actually shorter. This guy is using information from the communist chinese government. I've studied satellite pictures of all three carriers .the 003 is clearly shorter due to the ramp being removed in the design .
It's always amusing to see the UA-cam 'experts' throw their lot in on things. It's not like they have anything original to contribute but they make themselves feel important.
Thanks SAC, good video as usual. I like to refer back to where you hypothesised about the airwing on the CV-18 and the CV-16/17. You believe that the CV-18 will have a mix of J-15s (non-EW version) and J-35s, while the STOBAR carriers will continue to operate J-15s only. This view is somewhat at odds with my own. There is a general expectation that the J-35 would be able to take off from a ski-ramp as well, given that they are expected to be lighter than the J-15, which is one of the heaviest carrier fighters in service. The J-35 is also expected to be smaller than the J-15. Wouldn't it make more sense for CV-16/17 to carry J-35s instead of J-15s, given that because they are smaller we can probably pack more airframes in, and the J-35s as 5th gen fighters should be much more capable at least in air combat. I agree that the CV-18 will probably carry a mix of J-15s and J-35s, because the J-15s could be expected to have greater range and payload, and will be more suitable in a strike role, while the J-35s operate mainly in combat air patrol. That said, there is also a case for operating only J-35s, given they are arguable better on balance, all things considered.
Actually, I have argued, in previous briefings, that Liaoning and Shandong will likely be more capable aircraft carriers in the future if they can operate J-35 effectively, so exactly as you say. So I absolutely agree with you. Not only will the smaller footprint of the J-35 probably mean more aircraft can be operated off the STOBAR carriers, but they will also be stealth aircraft. I'll send you the link to the relevant briefing. Additionally, the benefits the J-15 can bring, launched off an EMALS, should not be underestimated. Really appreciate the question. Thank you.
@@Strategy_Analysis Thanks for the great answer, SAC. Now that you mentioned it, I do recall you mentioning the possibility of the J-35 operating off the Liaoning and Shandong. I would be personally quite interested in a detailed brief on some of the high-end Chinese aircrafts (I think this will align with the interest of most of your viewers), so I'll just leave that suggestion here. Don't feel obliged though, of course.
@@EurasiaNaval Good idea. Please send a PM so we can discuss.
Perhaps the arrival of the carrier-Based AEW Plane Xian KJ-600 would be even more significant than the combination of J-35/J15 fighters in the Fujian Carrier Strike Group. Probably only the Fujian can operate a fully fledged AEW which would be a major force multiplier and a critical piece in fleet defense.
@@tvgerbil1984 Yes, a fixed-wing AEW&C aircraft, in this case the KJ-600, certainly offers more than the Z-18 AEW helicopter. And the KJ-600 is only an option on a CATOBAR carrier like the Fujian, so certainly a force multiplier.
Thanks for the proper analysis and facts, rather than hype / fake news to appeal to the masses in over / understating Chinese military capaiblity. You have earned a sub.
Thank you. Much appreciated. I try to deliver an objective "intelligence-style" assessment. HAppy to take suggestions for future briefing.
With China still massively producing 052D which is more capable of any aspects than 054A, I doubt that 054A will finally withdraw from Fujian CSG and focus on overseas escort missions.
Otherwise it still take 2~3 yrs for Fujian to be in service, I wonder if J-35 could make it to be accepted by PLAN before Fujian is combat ready, since I have seen clear photograph of J35 painted in commission.
What's more, several 12 meters diameter pressure hulls were spotted in submarine shipyard, which might indicate the rumored 095 SSN would soonly make a chance to be public.
Good analysis by the way.
there will be type 052D destroyers and type 054 frigates in all China's carrier strike groups, in fact there will be 3 or 4 of both, cause China's carrier strike groups are going to be bigger than American carrier strike groups, they will be more like carrier strike group task forces, that means there will be a minimum of 2 type 055 cruisers too, and 2 type 075 LHA ships and at least 1 type 076 LHD and 2 type 071 LPD's, 4 type 056 Corvettes and supply & oiler ships, 2 of each, intel ships and mine layers/clearer ships, and 4 attack submarines
their next supercarrier will be 110,000 tons, be nuclear powered and be 1100 feet long and 260 feet wide, then the next 4 supercarriers will be the same class and will weigh 120,000 tons, be nuclear powered, 1150 feet long and 275 feet wide
Thank you for the comments. 1. Yes the 052D is more capable than the 054A, but it is also more expensive to produce. Might 3 (say) 054A be of more value to the CSG as 2 052Ds? 2, We don't know when the J-35 will be operational, but at this stage it appears as though the timeline will roughly align with the commissioning of the Fujian. 3. When the Type 095 is operational, I would expect it to be operating with the CSGs. Really appreciate the support.
@@ethanmac639 I don't think PLAN will produce much supercarriers as they can at the moment, China need time to get familiar with new CATOBAR system which is no doubt a huge systematic topic. So I think 003 is gonna have a sister ship, after that China will turn its head to nuclear supercarriers.
@@russelfang7434 wrong, the type 004 and the next 4 will be nuclear powered
I believe the Shandong has a bigger hanger space than Liaoning. Remember Liaoning was the old Kuznetsov class and even hough the forward missile silos etc were gutted there were some load bearing bulkheads that couldn't be removed.
Shandong on the other hand was a newy built ship and mostly a with design. It's not a total copy of the Liaoning.
Thanks for the comment. Agree Shandong is not an exact copy of the Liaoning. As I mention in the briefing, two very obvious changes are the island and deck area, but the external dimensions appear the same. After examining images of the forward end of the hangar on both ships, they look identical. However, the larger available space on the deck should allow Shandong to operate a few more aircraft than the Liaoning.
Suggestion for a future video: How the PLA might use high endurance UAVs like the WZ-7 to augment its capability to hunt enemy surface combatants, especially in supporting its carrier strike group and utilising its arsenal of long range antiship ballistic missiles, shipborne, air launched, and land based.
A good suggestion, and will broaden the briefing I was planning to do on UAVs
Maybe a video summarizing china's drone/uav/ucav capabilities could be cool. Thanks for the great content!
A good suggestion. I'll certainly look into it.
Suggestion for a future video:
How does the JMSDF operate their fleet- sorry I meant "Flotilla", how do they usually deploy their ships, especially with needing to cover large ocean territories. Do they often go together with their Helicopter Destroyers or some other certain flotilla arrangements?
How good are they if they have to counter nations like China or Russia? What sort of actions can they make in reponse to a large naval incursion?
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Very informative. Thank you.
Appreciate the comment. Thank you.
Maybe a similar video on the INS Vikrant battlegroup? Or maybe a general history of the IN?
Recently discovered you and love your videos :)
Thank you for the comment. Yes a good idea. I have done a briefing on the INS Vikrant itself which did ok, but a recent briefing on the INS Visakhapatnam did not do so well. Perhaps people aren't interested in it?
@@Strategy_Analysis perhaps a quirk of the algorithm? Or maybe, given the fact that much of your content covers China, your audience prefers to watch videos on China?
@@DomCombatVids Yes, the algorithm has its "quirks" ;) From the briefings I have done so far, you can see I like to cover a broad range of topics, not just China. Having been to India, and conducted engagement with them, I do believe I have some insight.
@@Strategy_Analysis are you a retired vet of the RAN? And also, have you considered opening a discord server?
india aircraft carrier has no toilet like its cities. enemy will run cause smelly
Great video but what is that whining noise in the background during the Type 052 part?
I am temporarily living near an airfield. Unfortunately some background noise.
@@Strategy_Analysis Ahh makes sense.
Where do you believe will the deployment of said carrier strike group?
An excellent question, which is difficult to answer without a scenario to place it against. At its farthest, the Western Pacific, and Eastern Indian Ocean.
South and east china sea ... China has no wish to deploy in the Indian ocean unless needed...or until the Taiwan issue is resolved or china pssesses 6 flat tops... Whichever earlier.
one @ north fleet and 2 @ south fleet including Fujian... SCS is the choke point
The Americans have quietly upgraded their Tomahawk cruise missiles to Block V for anti-ship capability. The missiles are subsonic but have good range. In particular four Ohio class submarines each can carry up to 154 Tomahawks, making them very dangerous carrier killers if they are deployed to hunt carrier battle group, like one led by the Fujian.
Yes, certainly a good range and a good-sized warhead.
Your voice sounds very familiar… do you have another channel about riding by any chance?
This is not related to the current video, but will you be covering suicide drones?
Yes. Plan is in the not-too-distant future. A popular topic.
this has to become the basis of the Fijian Carrier Strike Group for April. being drawings of a boat with FPV drones for strike and kites for Air defense roles and their great threat at fighting their primary foe, those greedy seagulls.
just my review on 2:15min for Fujian ship, new Z-20 helicopter will have alot in ASW, COD/SAR version. Z-18 will have limited unit. Submarine will have new 095/096 (in construction)
Yes, I would expect the Type 095 to be escorting the Carrier Strike Group when they are operational. I expect the Z-20 to be a very capable ASW helicopter, however the Z-18 should have better range/payload performance, so I would expect it to be on the carrier.
@sydneystout4003 The airwing was only illustrative, but ASW is an acknowledged weak area for the PLAN. The more ASW aircraft at the sea the better.
054A is going to be replaced by 054B currently under construction
If the USN were to go back to CVBGs, what would their composition be?
i think you have not added the aircraft carrier china will include in the aircraft strike group and the nuclear submarines that is around as well
Not sure what you mean. The carriers available now, or soon, will be Fujian, Shandong and Liaoning. I've covered them in the briefing. And yes, 1 or 2 SSNs (nuclear-powered attack submarines are included. Is this what you mean?
Love how aussies say deck
Ha. Cheers. I have lived in the States, so it has come up before.
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i think they switch to new z 20 asw variant of z 20 helo
Strike what ?
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Fujian will probably be escorted by 2 submarines , 2 type 055 , 2 type 052D , 4 type 054A. ,, Supply and logistical ship
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Cringe
@@lyric-992 agreed.
Why not step on it to see who's strong enough we're waiting
no country will sink another country's carrier unless they're at war.... so do you really want WW3??
Next time on vikrant carrier strike group in Western Naval command
Yes, very likely to do that one.
Fujian bolke pura video me Liaoning ko dikhaya acha majak tha
prove the capability of your carrier strike group,attack the US navy battle group now
Go back to your video games.
No need.
The DF-21, 17 & 26 will take care of them.
@@q3813 Indeed. The yankees have nothing of the sort. Remember they even stole data from China. "We lie cheat and steal" - Pompeo.
@@q3813 then use it to the US navy to prove that it's a deadly weapon system
@@q3813 U.S. Navy warships are considered to be sovereign U.S. territory. An attack on one is considered to be the same thing as an attack on the U.S. mainland. If China were foolish enough to launch a ballistic missile at an American warship, it would soon find it's own mainland being obliterated by a massive U.S. nuclear counterattack.
Wow! Chinese warships float. Unbelievable!!!
I dont think Chinese carrier strike group can stop over 100 tomahawk block V missile from a single OHIO class submarine
one hypersonic missile can down a US carrier.....
If so, there wont need any B1-B
@@fatdoi003 The Americans can do the same now with the LRHW soon to be deployed if not yet already.. those can sink a Carrier easily as you state...
@@fatdoi003 we know both of them can kill each other. But U.S has allot more Destroyers cruiser and carrier.
100% Chinese navy is dead
30% of U.S navy is dead.
Remember. China doesn't have more armed ships. They just have allot of small patrol vessel's that makes them have the largest navy in the world
@@lyric-992 30% US navy dead certainly costs more than 100% Chinese navy dead.
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Bruh
US Navy needs to have 1 mission sink the PLA navy
Dedicated flight operations and large trading maintenance budgets will be required to get China where it wants to be. Accidents and real world event experience will have to be earned as it cannot be copied or stolen. Dedication to safety, maintenance fleet operations are strict requirements for a carrier to be effective. We will see if the CCP can deliver this other wise these carriers are just targets.
Be sure the admiral doesn’t forget to bring his Visa Card to gas up.
中国很少人用信用卡支付，大部分还是用微信，支付宝。
i bet, its already rusting internally hahaahahhahahahahahahhaahahaah made in china of course lol
Wrong fujian 003 is based on the very same Hull of 001 and 002 .in fact the 003 is actually shorter. This guy is using information from the communist chinese government. I've studied satellite pictures of all three carriers .the 003 is clearly shorter due to the ramp being removed in the design .
It's always amusing to see the UA-cam 'experts' throw their lot in on things. It's not like they have anything original to contribute but they make themselves feel important.