New evidence in the Scott Peterson case? His latest bid for a new trial. The Emily Show Ep 249
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Scott Peterson was convicted of killing his wife, Laci, and his unborn child, Conner in 2004. The Jury rendered a death sentence. He appealed the case, and the California Supreme Court overturned the death sentence but was still deemed guilty of murder and was to remain in custody without parole for life. The LA Innocence Project has picked up his case, claiming new evidence that could lead to a new trial needs to be examined. I break down the new motions filed and an overview of the case.
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2:47 Road So Far
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56:18 Declaration of Paula Mitchell
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Love the Taylor Swift quote. Yeah, we have those vegetables at my house too.
I’ve been saying for years it’s Scott Peterson is innocent, and everybody attacked me. I’m glad to finally get some vindication.
@@RedLeo-pf9yo me too
I hate how they use "no history of violence" as a criminal defense. So many serial killers also have no history of violence
There’s always a starting point, I guess🤷🏼♂️
Exactly… like, just because there’s no _documented_ history doesn’t mean there’s no history… still can’t believe the innocence project took this case on. 🙄
Chris watts for example!!!
History is only history when others know about it. If Lacie didn’t report it, then no one knows.
They have histories it just rarely gets discovered until something catastrophic happens.
You know who else was reported by witnesses to be kind, gentle and calm at all times? Chris Watts.
Bingo!
If he had done what he did in 2003, he would have got away with it.
Neighbours cameras showed that Shannan and girls didn't leave the house.
If no cameras, he could have continued to deny.
No smartphones to find evidence of his affair.
And if he never confessed, nobody would have known. Unless they found the bodies later at his workplace... but yeah, he could have got away with it.
It's scary
Good Point !
And Chris Coleman.
@@KayD except the fact that he gave himself away by acting completely guilty.
Laci was a beautiful human being. Not just physically. I knew her in HS, and even as a teen she was absolutely lovely - genuinely kind, funny, bubbly, and so sweet. Her personality was magnetic, and her smile lit up her entire face. When I first learned of her murder, I felt like a true light in our world had been stolen, because the world was a better place with Laci in it. I hate this. I hate that Laci’s family are being dragged through this again. I believe Scott is guilty AF, and should never walk free again. I pray Laci and Conner rest in peace. ❤
I heard different.
@@Filthy_Larry I don’t care what you’ve HEARD. I knew Laci. She was my friend. I know what I experienced. And even suggesting otherwise to someone about a murdered friend is absolutely revolting.
@@lynn2574 you don’t care?! Like the part of her that’s nasty behind closed doors and pushes buttons? She was verbally abusive.
@@Filthy_Larry are you saying if someone is verbally rude they deserve to be murdered? And who did you hear that from? Bet that originated with her murderer. Did you know Laci personally? I doubt it.
@@Filthy_Larry you must be new here. @Emily D. Baker doesn’t lead a community where we troll people to deliberately cause pain.
The horse laugh that emitted from my face when Emily said “you have the right to shut the fuck up!” 😂
100% this needs to be added to the Law Nerd docket.
Side note - thank you for covering some/more criminal cases! I know you started with pop culture/civil and originally didn't want to cover criminal cases or become a "true crime" commentator, but I love your approach. Being a former DA, you offer a perspective most legal commentators can't, backed by a lot of experience. And your approach to the heavy topics is appreciated. No sensationalizing, no pandering to social media.
Yes! Personally, I’m not interested in the “pop culture” cases EBD typically covers, so I’m enjoying her content covering these criminal cases.
i ike a mix. Some of the pop culture is interesting enough, other stuff (like Scandaval) I couldn't care less about. But I love criminal coverage so i appreciate that EDB has thrown it in the mix and covers gavel to gavel for trials when they happen :)@@mrsgarcia4391
I just can't waste
a comment on him. Rest in peace, Connor and Laci. 😢
Why? This is HUGE if The Innocence Project is involved‼️
They will get the conviction overturned. In a new trial there’s no way they convict him. Without the stripper and her simp they won’t win.
@@KitKatSukiKat
The innocence project is a JOKE.
Every single criminal they parade around in the media has been hands down guilty. Some of whom have murd ered small children. Brutally.
The founder starts his activism with OJ Simpson. They are a giant scam.
They drudge up more pain for victims and parade guilty people around like martyrs all so they can elicit distrust in the justice system. They are anti-death penalty advocates and many of the people involved are prison abolitionists.
They aren’t about “innocence”
That’s just good propaganda in their name. They are explicitly advocates for the guilty, they just believe that monsters deserve to be released into the communities they have already terrorized so they can go terrorize more people again. They don’t believe in life sentences or the DP. They want to give the worst kinds of criminals freedom.
They are a gross organization.
Huh? This is an important review. It isn’t about our feelings (I can’t stand the guy), it’s about the law & logic.
@@KitKatSukiKat It's not the original IP. It's the LA version and they have no affiliation with them and have distanced themselves from the LAIP.
I live in Bay Area, he had a lot red flags in my mind. Cash, disguise, brother's drivers license driving to Mexico border where he was apprehended. Showed up at a separate east bay boat launch area when police launched search and found her and baby but he said he didn't know they were there looking that day. Left as soon as he heard news police found her in the bay... lots of weird stuff going on with him. Cement blocks found in his boat..His demeanor was weird...I don't know. He got death penalty but CA stopped death penalty here sooo.. I think he did it but my opinion is just that. Sad case
California has not abolished the death penalty. Rarely used, but a death row larger than Texass.
We didn't stop the death penalty, Governor Newsom put a moratorium on executions, that can/will be lifted with the election of a new governor. They can choose to extend the moratorium or lift it completely.
I think he did it, too.
He did it I went to the trial several days and I had a golden retriever they are wonderful dogs but if you mess with their mama or daddy or child they will go for blood.
And calling himself a “widow” to the other woman before his wife had passed away…
This is just traumatizing the parents and siblings more. Which I’m sure Scott is okay with. Looking objectively he’s guilty.he was on his way to run when he was arrested. With a map to Ambers workplace. Let Laci and Connor rest.
Yeah I think Amber is lucky he was arrested before he could make it to her house tbh. I think he was going to try and convince her to run with him and if she refused, she would have met the same fate as Laci and Connor. 😤😔
You are not looking at it objectively if I thought I was gonna be arrested and was innocent I would want to stop that from happening. The media decided his guilt there was no concrete evidence they only focused on him. I can't believe these comments on this channel it's not the first time I have been shocked. This channel goes through law and facts and human experiences.
@@Jenloves780oh so you want to pretend that a JURY wasn't the group that decided his guilt??? What is up with that? And as a member of this community you fail to see how the prosecution came up with their case???? You think it was all the MEDIA???? That makes no sense. It's not like anybody's claiming he's guilty when he hasn't been convicted. He has been convicted through the evidence that was presented by the prosecution. It is a shock that the Innocence project is even looking in Scott Peterson's direction. It is also right that any DNA should be tested. But the likelihood of it exonerating Scott Peterson is extremely slim. The case against him is rock solid. Actually it is at least a solid as the blocks of concrete that he had in his boat. No not everybody would act the way that he did if they were under suspicion of murdering their spouse. He dyed his hair blonde as an effort to disguise himself. There is no part of the story where I believe any exonerating evidence even exists regarding Scott Peterson's guilt. I doubt that they can even bring it on and sure they should have the opportunity. Not based on Scott Peterson's word. Based on science.
@@Jenloves780I also believe he is guilty but im not so bias that if new evidence has come up I believe it should be ignored. That's ridiculous. Of course it should be looked at. All new evidence should. All the time.
@@Jenloves780do you understand how many defendants are convicted on circumstantial evidence? prosecution didn’t need “concrete evidence” so long as they proved to the jury, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Peterson killed Laci and Connor… you must not watch many cases 🤔
My son was born at 32 weeks. He spent 29 days in the NICU but he is now a happy smart thriving and healthy 17 month old. Poor Connor.
I thought about this too! Mine was born at 33 weeks. He’s 3 now! Poor baby Connor 😞
My daughter was 10 weeks early, spent about 3 months in NICU and is now a beautiful 30 year old
Baby Connor would be 21 now. So sad. I'll never understand if they don't want to be tied down and married, get a divorce. Not always simple but absolutely possible. To end 2 innocent lives for their own needs.
My grandbaby was born at 31.5 weeks and left the NICU in 3 weeks.
I just started working as a nurse in the NICU and have learned that there are now successful births as early as 22 weeks gestation.
My brother was born at 24 weeks. He spent 3 months in the NICU. He's a healthy adult with two boys of his own now.
This is the first time I heard about the mail forwarding being set up on the day or day before she was killed.
I'm extremely disappointed in the LA innocence project for taking his case. They suspected him because he was suspicious and in following those leads they found evidence.
Me too!
Ya, you have to wonder their true motive.
See my post above the LA IP is not the original.
@@mauiswift6391 money...high profile cases bring LOTS of donations
I found it telling that they were directly contacted by his prior counsel. Seems like some favours to friends
I’ve been invested in this case from the very beginning! Definitely would like you to continue covering it!
He called Amber during His Wife and Childs candlelight vigil and pretend to be in Paris! He dyed His hair, had cash and camping gear and his family members id. He was making a break for the Mexican Boarder! Does any of that say He's innocent?
There was a discussion we were having with family. If there was nothing that he could say to the police because the police has already found you guilty and have indited you, I would be trying to get lost as well.
NO 💩!!! SERIOUSLY??!!
@janegomez1267 Okay, what about Him calling Amber during His Wife and Son's candlelight vigil and pretending to be in Paris? That tells Me all I need to know about Him.
@@janegomez1267 The problem is that people who run are always suspect. He could have stayed there and told his version of the story----they didn't just grab him and haul him into the precinct. Even if they did , they had a duty to let him speak. He should have immediately requested an attorney. He further damaged his case by taking off for Mexico. Running from the law is never a good idea.
No Amber bombarded him with phone calls that day which forced him to respond
I remember when watching this unfold how the layers were peeled back and how much i learned about what a sociopathic man looks like. This and Mark Hackings murder of his wife. The facade cannot be distirbed without dangerous consequences.
lol
In my state Christopher Longo killed his wife and three young children the year before iirc, and he actually escaped to Mexico where he pretended to be a famous journalist for awhile before being identified and captured and taken back to Oregon. When Laci was murdered is was like the Longo case all over again
It’s hard to believe that baby would have been a whole grown ass man by now. 😮🫠🫥🙃😞
It’s not a baby until it’s born. It was never a baby. It died as a fetus.
why? this was literally decades ago
Caylee Anthony too. Wild.
He was viable thus the murder charge.
@@RenataKleinRKhe was viable and his mom wanted him, he was a baby
Please keep covering this case!! I remember following the original case and my heart breaks for Laci’s family that they have to go thru this again. My cousin was killed by a serial killer & it took more than 20 years for him to be executed. It was so hard on my Aunt. She was never the same. I pray this gets resolved quickly.
Dang. You don't hear that often, where you know or are related to someone that was tragically "ended" and the person actually be executed, considering how not often they do them. I'm so sorry your family had to go through that...
He will never be killed and the appeals will never end haha... So not likely ever gonna be over, even though its no longer death penalty. He was never getting killed in California. Mark Geragos that was his attorney! Anyways Peterson is guilty as hell. Innocence project making itself look blind is not a good look just to take every case. This case has no questions.
You know what’s hard, having your wife and son murdered and then being wrongfully convicted.
@@user-kv8po4er2j wrongfully convicted lol... Their "evidence" for a new trial is garbage lol. Truly. This was one of the easiest cases ever to solve. He acted like such a piece of shit after he killed her. He would stand off to the side by himself at the vigiles and searches. He never gave a fuck abt her and wanted his single life and pretend he doesnt have a kid. This is totally how murderers act when a kids coming... Cause thats really the end of your life.... And he did it in the 8th month cause he didnt wanna face killing a kid directly, so he just killed her and let it die as well. Were you an OJ juror? Lol
@@crayonwriter dude you are so smart, SMH
The thing that made me sick was watching an old Dateline episode chronicling this case and they showed Connor’s nursery and it was nautical themed with boats and the ocean, come to learn that Connor and Lacey were found on the shoreline. SP is guilty and it’s disgusting that the innocence project is helping him. He is where he belongs
How do you know the new evidence?!
I’ve thought the same thing about the nursery.
And there’s no way that instantly becomes a storage room.
It was said he spent a lot of time cleaning the pool while she was missing. I think he possibly drowned her there and then transported her body.
Ya and where he later used as a storage.
@@KitKatSukiKatthere is no new evidence
Right? Its made me loose all tespect for them
I remember all of this I live in the Modesto area and I also worked at a department store that Lacey and Sharon shopped at for her maternity clothes 😢😢😢
I absolutely appreciate taking a look back at this case, please keep us informed.
I live in Modesto at the time, just a couple miles away. Police never followed up with my dad's boss who had a mail delivery (big rig) route from Modesto to Richmond CA. He said he saw Scotts truck pulling the boat on the freeway sometime between 1 and 1:30am.
I believe police got the timeline wrong. I think he dumped her in the middle of the night, drove back, cleaned up, let the dog out, went back to the scene of the crime in case anyone placed him there, got his alibi with the receipt and came back. It's why his jacket was dry. He didn't even go into the water after he went back. He just went to get that time-stamped receipt.
Unfortunately, my dad's boss has now passed away. Years ago.
I guess rumors become facts.
Unfortunately the police disregard information if it goes against their preconceived theories.
I always felt the same thing. He must have taken her to the bay in the middle of the night. There would have been no one around, he could have just put her body in the bay and no one would be able to see. That’s why when he went back home and then later in the morning he went back to his office he had time to look stuff up on his computer, put together his tools then hook up his boat and go back down to the bay to get a receipt and when he put the boat in the water just did this so people would see him.
What about all the people who saw her on that day walking the dog?
All the "so-called" "witnesses" say they saw laci with a white top and black pants which laci was wearing khaki colored pants when her body was found... their accounts directly contradicted the evidence d@user-kv8po4er2j
I am from the Bay Area and remember seeing this case on the news every day. After Amber Frey’s news conference, Scott was considered scum of the earth and we all believed he was guilty of murder. To this day, I still think he’s guilty but if the LA Innocence Project has evidence to prove otherwise, then he deserves to have another day in court. You did a great job breaking this down for us Emily🙌🏽
If he was so innocent, why in the world did he do everything to prove otherwise. Forget the circumstantial evidence. It was his very own actions from the day Lacey went missing that showed his guilt. I feel like he sentenced himself with his actions.
How many years later and where is the evidence pointing elsewhere? Truth always comes out. Where’s the reasonable doubt? Scott had the motive and means. They could never rule him out
Scott Peterson was and is his own worst enemy. He screwed himself over and over. If he is really not guilty, then he's the unluckiest man on earth.
It's *Laci. Name a single shred of compelling evidence that isn't explained away.
@aok4418 I'm so sorry you don't like my opinion, but it's my opinion. Scott acted incredibly suspicious and told a lot of lies. He literally told Amber his wife (LACI) was dead when the world was still looking for her. Sorry, but I stand by what I said. Scott's behavior made him look guilty even if he wasn't. If there's evidence to prove otherwise, I'm all for it. If he's an innocent man behind bars and it can be proven, then by all means, set him free. I won't hold my breath. We can agree to disagree respectfully.
@@daniellealexander7392
Yet, studies indicate people are right roughly 53% of the time when judging guilt or innocence based on demeanor. Yes, he lied to and about Amber. That's not evidence. She was a fling. Of course, he didn't want that coming out.
Sorry. My mind is closed on this one. There is a mountain of evidence that points directly to him as her killer. How is it fair to the victim's family to be put through this?
*their lives
Yeah I agree. I was 14 and living in the area at the time and it was clear then and even more looking back that he did it.
There is not a mountain of evidence that points directly to him. Do what? Keep your mind tightly shut. You are one of the reasons there are massive amounts of wrongfully convicted individuals in this country.
I agree they're not going to find any evidence to exonerate this horrible man. But now that DNA can be tested even if they do test it they're not going to find Laci's DNA. I agree, my mind is very clearly made up as well and I don't believe that there's any way Scott Peterson is innocent. I'm sure that it is distressing to Laci's family. It would be better if the self-serving scumbag would just admit that he did it and get on with his prison sentence.
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Is not fair. But narcissists don’t give 2 poops 💩 about other people.
Yes Emily, please keep following this case!
This makes me so mad. He is guilty. There was a ton of evidence pointing to his guilt not to mention the way he acted while she was missing. The police already interviewed and cleared the robbers across the street.
His behavior alone with his mistress should be all anyone needs.
Ya, but he didn't get a fair trial,tbh.
Dying his hair and fleeing with several thousand dollars were clues.
There wasn’t any actual evidence. That’s the problem. I thought the same as you initially but try to keep an open mind, like Emily said.
What was the ton of actual evidence pointing to his guilt? This is a circumstantial case.
I'm not worried, as far as I'm concerned it will be a failed appeal, He is exactly where he should be.
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I agree. I don't believe that he can be proven innocent because I don't believe he is. Quite surprising that anybody thinks he is. But I have a feeling about this one I think he's going to be staying right where he is.
@therealdeal3672 i don't believe he's innocent but i do believe there was some reasonable doubt. I don't belive he should have been sentenced to death with only circumstantial evidence. For example, there was far more evidence against Casey Anthony & she was aquitted.
@@jessika702I would have to disagree that there was far more evidence against Casey Anthony. I think that Peterson had a whole lot of circumstances in his case that pointed to only one conclusion. I personally see no reasonable doubt.
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I heard that the LA Innocence Project is not THE innocence Project
Correct and am relieved to hear that. But, regardless, I feel strongly that he is guilty so this is giving me such anxiety.
Justice for Laci and Connor🙏🙏🙏
What a horrible waste of funds through the innocent project horrible
Right! That's what I heard too but they are truly wasting their time
The Innocence Project (out of NY) even put out a statement that they were not affiliated with this case
Why does that matter?
NO ONE here in the Bay Area that knows the geography between Modesto and Berkeley believes he is innocent. Let alone all of the other inconsistencies, the affair, the fleeing. Absolutely not.
There was so much evidence it was ridiculous.
@@mauiswift6391No there wasn't there was a ton of media attention focused on him and only him.
@@Jenloves780 Because he did it.
@@Jenloves780a jury convicted him. The media was just reporting facts and information. It doesn't mean that due process wasn't served. If there's new evidence, bring it on. I seriously doubt it's going to exonerate Scott Peterson. He convicted himself by his own actions. The jury just made the official decision and he's exactly where he should be.
@@Jenloves780 Of course there was. He was the last person to see her alive and he was having an affair and lying about it, so yes of course there was tons of media attention. That doesn't mean he was found guilty cause of the media. He was found guilty because of the circumstantial evidence.
You know, Scott Peterson has never mourned the loss of his wife and child. I have never seen him breakdown or be upset that they are dead. The only time I have ever seen him get upset was when he got in trouble.
They’re also leaving out the fact that he was gearing up to leave the country through Mexico. He even died his hair blonde.
Since the time of her death until now, he has not acted like anything that resembles an innocent person.
Yep I remember the bleached blonde hair and beard and the automobile flight towards Mexico. They were keeping a pretty close tail on him though because well he was their best suspect. They did check out the robbers across the street. I don't think they're going to come up with anything now. This is still just Scott Peterson's hot air.
Yes just like Watts???
People don’t have to cry to grief. This is a big misconception. People sometimes would prefer to grieve in private I know I would much rather cry privately than in front of pretty much anybody and I’ve been like that my whole life and I’m very empathetic to living beings I’m not so sure about this one I watch the documentary on it I remember the trial, I have doubts that he actually did it but we have to see what comes in the new trial
@@cindy7764if you are the number one suspect in your wife's murder you would think that some kind of tears would be summoned. I don't buy it. Human emotion seeps out whether or not you want it to. You may not cry in front of others, but I doubt that you could hide your grief if you were deep in it. If you could, I believe you've probably been forced to live a lie much of your life. That's not your fault if that is the case. Or you were forced to repress your expression of emotion. True emotion is detectable on a face even if the eyes are dry.
I don’t believe that he did it directly. I believe that he hired somebody to do it the boat that he had was not able to do what they feel that happened to Lacey. Yes, he is absolutely guilty but I don’t think in the way that everybody seems to think I believe that he has a higher accompliceand I see and respect your point of view
I don’t even see how LA Innocence Project could take this. The fact that in their documents they said he was always home with Laci is a flat out lie. He was having a full blown in person affair that has been proven as a fact. Hard to do that when you are “at home”. Eye roll.
I was shocked when they took it on when there are actual innocent people who need help
I agree! Honestly, they lost a lot of accountability in my opinion!
I don’t understand it either. I don’t care what new evidence they say they have, he’s not gonna get rid of the old evidence. And all his doings in between and after.
I think maybe the notoriety of this case may be a factor. He’s guilty. When he lied to Amber that his wife was dead before she actually ended up dead in the bay cinched it for me.
Welllllll.... Juror #7, "Strawberry Shortcake", Richelle Nice, didn't help anything with her lies, and her smart aleck comment after the verdict.... And then the lies about the burglary date. It just gave them cause.
Idk, if he's innocent, then these are a bunch of horrible circumstances. But his own actions are very suspicious
How in the hell would Scott actually get a murder confession from someone that the police wouldn't have? Who's just giving that up? Seems so fishy to me. Hope they address it quickly so we can move on from this
No, the confession was recorded during a prison telephone conversation-which the authorities later said “went missing” somehow.
Money and a girl friend . Didn't want children. 😢this case was and is still horrible. 😞😤. Rip. 🕊️💐🌹💛
It happens more than you know. Men kill women bc they don’t want a baby or husbands killing wives bc they no longer want to be married or pay alimony.
My ex-husband’s favorite saying was it’s cheaper to keep’er 😩 im convinced once he tried to pay someone to harm me. Needless to say it’s why he’s my EX! I wl NEVER get married again
Doesn’t want children but his mistress had a child 🤷♀️
And told mistress his wife was dead and this would be first Christmas without her. The only truth he told
There’s a lot of coincidences in this whole mess. One after the other. SMH.
@@lisakaye3919 Yes, that’s very true
Guilty, guilty, guilty. Laci wasn’t seen walking her dog that morning, her body (what was left of it) was found still wearing her clothes from the party the night before.
She was still wearing the same clothes??? She was found in pieces.
Yes the jeans were still on her remains
Over 25 people reported seeing her that morning. There was even security footage that one of the neighbours had but law enforcement didn't even ask to view or duplicate it.
@@cleanrunestick3804
True.
But once body was recovered she was NOT found in the clothes the neighborhood saw a prego woman walking a dog in, which means THE WOMAN the neighbors saw could not have been laci.
Please pay attention.
Brocchini rhymes with zucchini. Ok? 😊
You have a great speaking voice, Emily. Thanks for the coverage, I remember the trial, however not the details that you kindly provided. Kudos
I don't understand the public upset over the innocence project picking up this case. I believe he did it but I also don't have problem with an organization taking a closer look. As an American citizen, I want to know the right people are held accountable.
I think its because he's an unlikeable guy and his poor character was widely exposed. The court of public opinion just needs him to be a dirty cheater to keep him locked up. Good thing the actual courts don't work that way.
@@MakerInMotion I get what you're saying and I don't disagree. He definetly made it easy to hate him. I always thought he was guilty but I've never seen the innocense project pick up a case without good reason so I remain open to hearing them out.
@@casey7187 This isn't the original IP. It's the LA version, which is not affiliated with the former. They have distanced themselves from this.
@@lonelyheroine I just watched Paul from Live from my Sofa explain that too and that makes since now. I'll stand by what I said in that I don't have an issue with anyone digging deeper but knowing it's not the IP that I've grown to respect does cast even more doubt on the possibility of him being innocent for me.
@@casey7187 Those who believe he is innocent don't realize that, even if by some obscure twist of fate the man is exonerated, he won't be found innocent. Innocent means you defintely did not commit a crime and being found not guilty doesnt mean you are innocent, just that there is no conviction you definitely did the crime. Therefore, the best Scott Peterson can hope for is to be found not guilty. He can't be proven innocent for the reasons I stated here. His supporters don't seem to know that.
My wife and I followed this from the very beginning. I hope you keep covering it!!
I’m still hurting for the family!
When Lacos mother said she didnt want Scott executed because it would wipe the family off the face of the earth like Laci and Conner never existed broke my heart for her 😢
The Peterson’s?
@@user-kv8po4er2jyou're all over this comment section and I get it, you think he's innocent. But even if you think that you surely understand Laci and Connor were absolutely murdered. Even Scott's own theory of the case has them being murdered, just not by him. Have some compassion for her parents and siblings.
@@platedlizard I don’t think he’s innocent, there just a ton of reasonable doubt and I would hope I never get out in that position with a jury of morons. Laci’s parents don’t have it worse than Scott if he’s innocent.
When following the facts of cases like this, does anyone else think along the lines of 'Look, I'm not a criminal, but even I know not to do that'?
Please add it to the docket Emily!!! Great coverage. Thank you.
Circumstantial cases are often very strong. Often better than shaky witnesses.
Witnesses are notorious for recall it’s just how the human brain is designed.
@@mauiswift6391100%…..take the many “eyewitnesses” who claimed to hv seen Laci on that walk. They all claimed to see her in black pants I believe (suspiciously the same color Scott said she was wearing), but she washnd
Circumstantial evidence is often what throws innocent people in jail. Last night I have seen 3 cases that were in jail from 18 to 28 years all three were innocent, they then found the real killers, there are many like that behind bars. If he is guilty he remains guilty but if he isn't and they find evidence that he had nothing to do with it, why would you want him to stay in jail?
@@arrivagabry I've yet to see anything from this new defense that REMOTELY indicates he is innocent. This is just the SODDI defense brought out by Scott😍fans. I don't believe this is a good use of Innocence Project resources. Scott will die in prison with fans insisting he didn't do it.
The only evidence that isn’t circumstantial is eye witness testimony. That’s direct . Forensic evidence is circumstantial. No murderer is going to plan to commit murder in front of people. This it’s “all just circumstantial” bit is from ppl who don’t know how evidence works. Any crime with no eye witness is all circumstantial
I’d be shocked that the innocence project would take on such a case unless they have some very compelling evidence to provide. I’ve always had much confidence in this Organization and make contributions to them.
I remember the case well! Please keep us up to date!!!
After the OJ case, Scott Peterson's case is one of the first legal cases I can remember. It's stuck with me for years.
Yes because it was everywhere the media descended on this case and absolutely affected the result.
@@Jenloves780 💯
@@KitKatSukiKat can't compare the 2, OJ had the victims blood on his car, in his car, on his socks, not to mention the gloves.
Funnily enough, the founder of the innocence project began his activism with OJ.
If I find out Scott’s sister-in-law is part of this LAIP and nobody bothered to mention it, I will die laughing. Lol
???? Too Cold to golf SO went to the OCEAN instead?! MUCH COLDER in the water!!!
Right? No to mention probably windy. Makes no sense.
My uncle would go fishing during the winter, on cold rainy days. Come on y'all need to come up with something better. It doesn't make him a murderer.
@@janegomez1267 I’ve been fishing in November it’s freezing out ion the water. So he said it was bad weather for golf but not fishing? Makes no sense at all.
All I'm saying is my uncle, my family is big at fishing. We've done it when it's cold as heck and even when it's raining and windy. I'm saying it's happens.
Yes, and in a small un-covered boat that is too small to fish in the bay.
Wow! I can’t thank you enough for going through all these court papers. Thank you for explaining and breaking all of this down. Unbelievable!
Believing someone is guilty is a feeling. Verdicts should never be made on feelings in a court of law. What determines guilt or innocence should be facts. If there is new evidence, it should be investigated and weighed. TRUTH is the only way justice is served.
Amen. Circumstance with no solid evidence, Jailhouse snitches, all that nonsense...yeet it!
And the facts are, HE KILLED HER.
@@wmdkitty then investigating other facts won’t upset your feelings.
@@amerenae Those are not the feelings of @wmdkitty those were the facts according to what a jury has decided.
@@Trish.Norman have juries ever got it wrong?
If you're cheating on your wife you better hope to God she doesn't die
Yeah, and don’t carry cement blocks in your boat. LOL
Especially if you tell your gf she's dead before she has even disappeared.
@@Trish.Norman no cement blocks found on the boat besides one that he used as an anchor. get your facts straight
@@arrivagabry Let me help with facts. :-) Evidence of four to five residue rings from homemade concrete anchors (cement blocks) on the defendant's boat trailer in addition to one 10 lb. concrete anchor, (also homemade), found on his boat. (I call them cement blocks but they are homemade concrete anchors).
@@Trish.Norman that was a theory does not prove anything, even if there were rings there, it could be the same bucket moved more times, or from anther project it proves nothing, what would be proof is if they had found those weights in the bay, but they didn't find not even half of one they claimed he made, zero, nada, You would think out of 4 they claimed he made they would of found something, they never did, so how is that proof of anything? He made those anchors? Show them, you can't, neither could they it was just speculation
Hi 👋 Mark Geragos (on the Megyn Kelly show I think) said he received discovery from prosecution - only after Scott had been found guilty. Discovery evidence showed that Laci had apparently been confronted by burglars in their home. I’ve never heard this before & also can’t reconcile to Scott’s bizarre behaviour.
That's bs.
@sophie8394 No it isn't. For years I was convinced he did it until the evidence of her intervening on a burglary and interrupted the men who were out on parole.
@@rosemarythyme8595 yes it is. There is absolutely no evidence of Laci interrupting a burglary or confronting any burglars.
@@sophie8394 I think Scott killed Laci but I don’t think Mark Geragos is lying for the hell of it. He’s not Scott’s lawyer now so has no dog in the fight. It needs to be checked out. Maybe that’s why the LA Innocence Group have taken this on.
@@mareavoce1272 Mark Geragos has been caught lying so many times I've lost count.
EDB, do please keep following this case! Dr. Todd Grande did a video saying the case against Peterson was circumstantial, and he doubted it. That was the first I heard of this appeal. Probably part of LA Innocence project campaign. I would like to have your perspective. Evidence seemed strong to me.
Yes, I wanna dig deeper into this case. This is very interesting.
How Ben Affleck hasn’t played Scott Peterson in a series/film adaptation blows my mind..
It tainted the Dean Cain's reputation, I think. I don't know a soul who could unsee the resemblance after he played him in that role.
😂😂 I think they are the same person.
Gone Girl (book and movie) has a lot of elements from this case, aside from the twist and ending
@@GodIH8UKennyGone Girl has nothing, nothing to do with this case. There's zero similarity.
@@therealdeal3672The author of Gone Girl did say that it was loosely inspired by this case.
You deliver this story perfectly. You Don't interject with foolish nonsense. Thank you
I’m not passing Judgement until I hear what the Innoncense Project has to say first. They wouldn’t have taken on this case if they didn’t have some substantial evidence.
I hate when work gets in the way of EDB!!
Thank you for breaking this down, I remember this whole circus so clearly!
Every single thing he does or says screams guilt.
He has one of the smuggest mugs ever! That's for sure! Yep. It was a bit of a circus. RIP Laci and Connor.
I truly appreciate all of your time and effort putting this together.
My hearts goes out to Laci"s family they don't deserve this if that greedy cad would have asked for a divorce paid his child support Connor would be in college by now and the cad"s child support obligation would be over , but he choice this route he should rot in prison.
Great breakdown! I vote for you to keep covering this case.
I feel sorry for Amber, too. There was nooo way she was going to come out of this looking like anything other than a home wrecker, even though she did absolutely nothing wrong, imo.
She was so brave.
I really felt bad for her - even at the time. She was crushed not over him but for Laci, Conner & the family. I think she also blames herself to some degree - which she should not 😢
He really f'd her reputation. Not only does she look like a homewrecker but also an accessory
She's definitely not the first girl to be lied to by a cheater. I admired her bravery in coming forward to work with the investigators.
I know , he totally lied to Amber she had no idea he was married til she found out about him and she immediately came forward and done everything she could to help the police and even apologized to Laci family , she’s a victim of Scott Peterson, and innocent of all his lies,
YES - I watched every minute of this trial from the beginning !
He sure was prepared for an impromptu fishing trip. The thing is…it’s WAYYYY colder on the water than it is on the golf course. All that effort for 90 minutes in the bay? No man alive only fishes for an hour snd a half.
I’m interested in this case very much! Please keep covering this case! Thanks Emily!
what about Amber had anything to do with it because she denied knowing he was married ., the lover always hate the wife .
Thank you Emily! I was looking forward to this podcast. I hope that you will continue covering this. I am super interested!
Loved this, yes we need more updates on old cases please 🙏🏻
Why do I tear up at the end when she says may your family be well and may the odds be ever in your favor????????❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
This is the only case where I went back from saying guilty to i dont know. There were some inconsistencies in this case and there was a lot of media publicity that made it hard for him to win. I heard some alleged things going on with the jury and just a lot of evidence that points to not him being the person who did it. I think he should get a new trial and this time cameras be in the court room. Just is an interesting case.
Cameras should never be allowed in the courtroom. It's not a Broadwqay show, it's a trial.
The media destroyed any attempt to get a fair trial.
I remember when this case blew up. It was during a ‘slow news/court’ holiday time & HLN (CourtTV) had been gaining steam. Her disappearance rocked the nation & gained international attention & so the hook was set.
IMO, this case deserves at least another ‘look-see’. Because tainted justice is not true justice.
(Note: I’m not saying he’s innocent)
I'm just going to put this out there. My mother was a domestic violence victim. She didn't disclose this on her questionnaire and was picked for the jury. She'd come home daily talking about how this man on trial reminded her of her ex and declared him guilty. Based off what she was describing I did not agree as there was no evidence I heard leading me to believe he had been the one to kill the victim but that he was most likely guilty of disgarding her body after a drug deal gone wrong .(pushing body out of moving vehicle and later atempting to burn vehicle in which wasn't successful as he left all the windows up). Luckly my mother was dismissed from jury duty she'd say she has no clue why but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it was her comment in the elevator of "he's guilty" while in the presence of another juror. The other juror also was dismissed. All this to say. My mother would have found him guilty in my opinion not because of the evidence but due to her desire for vengeance toward her ex who has no involvement in the case. In my opinion lying or omitting prior legal cases that would relate to the trial at hand should be an immediate mistrial as there is no way to determine whether or not your prior experience with any similar trauma could cause prejudice or as Id like to call it "I didn't get justice so this is my way of getting revenge justice". Id also like to add my mother ranted about the similarities between her and the victim which when asked she had no evidence to show proving any of the similarities she spoke of other then to say that's how she HAD to have felt or to just say ik he's guilty he reminds me of my ex. She was far to close to the trauma supposedly this woman had been through. But as far as I saw they were not similar in any way other then they were both bootycalls for a man at one time. Lying or omitting to being a victim of a prior crime in my opinion only shows you are not well intentioned when becoming a juror. Omitting is a spiteful form of lying and a form of revenge but again this is all my opinion.
In the opinion of the judge who presided over the evidentiary hearing in 2022, none of those things were true.
Yes, yes, yes to more of these.
Thank you Emily!!!
Honestly, I get why most of the comments follow a “ Scott’s going to always be guilty in my mind” attitude. But I watched a show about it recently. I was quite surprised by some things, including two neighbors that knew lacy saying they saw her walking the dog, after the time in which Scott was suppose to have already been gone. Will be interesting to see what comes out of this in the way of any new evidence, or not.
No neighbors who knew Laci said they saw her.
@@sophie8394yes, they did! More than one.
@@RaeAnn_1202 which ones?
@@RaeAnn_1202 nothing?
Love your channel and community! Please continue covering this case, this one has always stuck with me.
Oh the day will come when we each reap what we sow. Our youngest was 5 months when this happened so I've thought of Connor as our baby grew up. Like Jon Benet is the same age as our oldest, so everytime my kids have a birthday, I think of these children ❤️
I’m usually a fan of the Innocence Project, but I think they’ve got this one wrong. Scott Peterson killed his wife and son. It’s beyond sad. He’s where he belongs.
Please note, this "LA Innocence Project" is not THE Innocence Project.
they are affiliated
The innocence project issued a press release making sure everyone understood the LA innocence project is a wholly separate organization.
@@persephonel2117 They aren't affiliated at all.
awfully HUGE coincidence that Lacy was taken by "robbers across the street" on Christmas eve, when her cheating husband, who had already told his lover he had lost his wife 6 weeks prior, left her all alone to go golfing - not, "fishing", yet couldn't even say what kind of bait he had gotten. SURE SCOTT, sure. rot in hell.
and in a boat he purchased that he kept secret, and computer searches for boat ramps, and the cement blocks in the boat…..ect
Peterson also said that Laci was okay with the affair. Wow!!! I want proof on that one.
There's unfortunately , a lot of people in prison who actually are innocent and i'm finding it very difficult to believe that they would have taken this case if there wasn't something there that convinced them because it wouldn't make sense otherwise.
Thank you for doing this!! I'm so curious how this is going to play out.
I live in Modesto & kept an open mind when Scott was on trial. Most opinions changed when his affair was revealed, but for me, it was the trip to the S.F. Bay, where we have numerous lakes and a delta that are much closer to us. Traveling that far in that weather on Christmas Eve makes no sense. He initially said he had his boat in the water for 20 minutes? He was also "fishing" for fish that weren't present in the bay at this time.
You are the exact person they want on the jury. What does an affair have to do with murder?
Literally no one is talking enough about the trip to the SF Bay and how absurd it is.
@@user-kv8po4er2jIt shows he lied to police? It shows he is not afraid to lie and spin it, ie telling the media the police knew about the affair the whole time which they did not. It shows potential motive? It shows he can be manipulative?
He told Amber this was the first Christmas without his wife. He called her during his wife/son’s candle vigil saying he was in Paris.
It actually says quite a lot.
Love, Lust, Looting and loathing the most common motives for murder.
It’s the “fishing” that’s got Me! Affair…concrete in his boat that held down the body, fishing out of nowhere…and going to the marina to “look”, selling house with a “missing wife”….GUILTY!!!
He got the fishing license like 4 days before too. Planned not heat of moment.
He bought that boat in the dec soon after he met Amber. And he started googling the currents before he even got the boat.
I hate that Laci's Dad isn't here anymore. But I'm sure glad he's not here to see this. Laci and Conners deaths broke him. He went to pieces.
Rest with Laci and Conner in heaven , Mr Rocha. Prayers for Sharon, Amy and Brent.
Bay Area girl here. IF too cold to golf, I promise too cold to fish!
I do laundry and I never make a load. I do laundry a certain way. That doesn't make him guilty.
I do the same, sometimes just a small load or medium but not full loads every time I do laundry, how anyone does not make them a murder,
Right… And I don’t want your fishing and hunting clothes with my clothes. And I believe he explained that. He did the laundry the way Laci always requested.
And so he's guilty man mpd needs ppl like u so smart u are a lot of evidence there how Scott doesn't do his laundry the way a innocent person does
Do you have an excuse for every single thing Scott did? Lol
@@imjustaturtle641 are u talking toe ?
I always believed that Peterson was shady, but I had serious doubts about his guilt. I'll be following this!
Imagine if he’s innocent? Something I find strange is how people saw Lacey walking on that day but they ignored the facts.
No one saw Laci.
PNW Weirdness Podcast did a great job on this story of you want a little more in depth look. As a fisherman from the bay area I loved to fish for anything, not just one thing in particular. And I would appreciate if fish people washed their clothes separately. Fish clothes and bay water stinks BADLY!!!! Is he guilty, possibly, is he innocent, maybe. And those search dogs were known for getting it less than 60% right. Soooooooo this case is worth another look by law.
I just listened to the podcast on Spotify and I can’t believe he thinks that is enough “new evidence” to get a new trial. There is still too much against him. I look forward to reading everyone’s thoughts in live chat and in the comments here!
What podcast?
@@Jill199 Emily’s podcast. It is the audio only version of this video.
Didn’t they already deny him a new trial a year or 2 ago?
@MidnightL2008 if the prosecution withheld evidence that goes against their theory of the case even if it's minor that's still a Brady violation.
@@fictionjunkie I had missed the part about the possible Brady violations. I was referring to this “new evidence” such as this mystery man who has supposedly confessed to the crimes
Love this content. TY Em!
Wiiiiiiild. Just wild. Thank you so much for covering this case Emily I am *invested* lol
Please continue to covering! (Sad I missed the members only recording this episode)
My daughter was 3 years old when this happened and it was HORRIBLE! It was hard to watch anything related. When I saw Innocence Project was getting involved my mind was blown! So much time has passed I don’t remember the intricacies so I’ll hesitantly keep an open mind.
There are a decent amount of cases the Innocence Project handles, like Julius Jones, that are questionable.
I was nearly married when this was going on. Hard to believe that we're back into this case. Going to have to big differences to change my mind.
I watched an unbiased documentary that saw from both sides, and tbh he did not get a fair trial at all. There's too many things that would give me some doubt that he did it.
Was that the one Scott's sister-in-law put out there? Totally biased@@my_name_is_rhyme
@@my_name_is_rhyme What was the documentary?
Emily, you neglected to mention that Lacy & Baby Connor washed up in the San Francisco Bay. Ropes still attached to Lacy. Baby washed up a few weeks later. I live here and it took over the whole region.
Took over the country
Didn't she read it from the filing?
It was in the Supreme Court fact breakdown, as I remember they washed up within a day of eachother and when the DNA was in he was arrested.
so sad
The IP doesn't take cases unless there are very good reasons so it will be interesting to see how this unfolds....sure hope the cops didn't make a huge mistake..
Thank you for covering
Great job finding all the information. I just found your channel. I look forward to more.
Yes Emily please cover these developments. I lived through this case living and working in the Modesto area at the time. It was heart breaking! I had met many of the people involved, even Scott, briefly. It was like 7 degrees of everyone and then the case being transfered to San Mateo, where I grew up. The evidence may have been circumstantial but it added up to 100%=no doubt.
Many years later it was again heart-breaking for the family and everyone to find one of the jurors made mistatement on initial vior der (idk latin); with resulting lower sentence of life imprionsment. This screamed future appeals.
However, how painful it is to all of us who knew Lacy or her family and those who participated in the case, this is about our justice system and our constitional rights. We have to follow through, like Murdaugh's recent proceedings.
I personally believe that no matter how many times this is rejudicated the answer will be the same, Scott is guilty but ...
We have to get this right!
This is that one case for me that just stays with you forever. I had a newborn when Laci went missing and of a night time up feeding him, this was on my TV. I believe Scott got a fair trial. Geragos was told about the van, he was told about the "witnesses", he knew about the burglaries. Yet he didn't present them, there was a reason why. If you look into the witness statements, firstly they were all made after those missing posters went up which had the clothes Scott said she was wearing, black pants, white shirt on it and the time she was last seen as 9:30am. So many claimed they saw her before 10am. But then when it was proven that Scott was still home at 10am, those witnesses said, oh sorry, it must have been 10.30am. Every single witness changed their story multiple times. Rules them out. The burglary theory makes no sense because Laci was found in pants similar to the ones she had worn the night before she went missing. So she could not have been abducted on her walk because according to Scott she was wearing black pants. So it means she had to have come home. It also means that she put the dog back with the leash on, exactly as the neighbor did and latched the gate, exactly as the neighbor did. And Scott said it was odd that the dog still had the leash on. So if it was odd, why would Laci have done it twice? The defenders like to say the media was camped out the front on the 26th so the house across the road could not have been broken into without them all seeing it. One of the burglars said from day one, that he saw ONE media truck down the end of the street. Ted Rowlands confirmed just a few days ago that he was the only media person there early in the morning and he was parked at the end of the street, how would the burglars have known that?? When the Medinas returned home to find their house robbed, the first thing they saw was a dolly (trolley) in their front yard and they knew immediately something was wrong. If the robbery took place on the 24th how did not one person see the dolly whilst they were searching for Laci? And either the burglars took Laci and Connor to the Bay as soon as they heard Scott had gone fishing there to frame Scott, a place they knew the police were searching and risked having a body in the car for a 90 minute drive, but they weighed down the body because she wasn't found until April. Why would they weigh down the body if they were framing Scott?? Or the next theory is that they actually dumped her the day she was found. So they held onto the bodies, just waiting for the right time, and traveled with a decomposing and delicate body 90 minutes or more and dumped them apart from one another on rocks, someone please tell me that makes sense?? Laci was supposed to be making french toast for Christmas morning breakfast and she had gone to the market on the 23rd and couldn't get the bread she wanted as they had sold out, so was planning to go again on the 24th to get it. All of us moms know, Christmas Eve morning and you need bread for a recipe that sold out the day before, please you'd be up there first thing in the morning. You wouldn't be mopping the floor and taking the dog for a walk as a priority. Just some of the circumstantial reasons I know he did it.
Prove it, either way
Thanks, EDB, for the breakdown!
Thanks for the update. Will continue to follow for sure and look forward to your updates ….