Why Experts are Warning Against Fasting - Dr. Peter Attia, Dr. Rhonda Patrick, Dr. Gabrielle Lyon
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Why Experts Are Warning Against Fasting
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So have you changed your mind on fasting or have you not? We don't have time to watch multiple long videos every day man.
@@ashm9953 sounds like we are in the same boat. So glad I found SOMETHING! I'm happy for you and glad you found something too! ❤
Great summary. Fantastic group of experts with varying ideas.
Please add Joel Greene to your mix of thoughts and perspectives.
....and who cares? 😂
Ronda pushed the cov jab and it really felt like she was doing it because she was told in the video it didn't seem authentic so I find it hard to trust anything else she says until she comes out and goes over all the bad stuff that has come of it like she did claiming the stuff she thought was good (unless she has and I missed it in which case I take this back) I'm not pro or anti fasting so no conclusion meant with this comment with the topic of this video
Whilst you're fasting someone is losing money . . . . .
Brilliant observation my friend
How? You could fast and give the money you save by donating to people who you think are losing money. 👍🏻
@@Truth222-lf3lc I should go to my local store and give them $10 for everyday I fast?
When humans fast nobody gets paid.
Not really, they'll try sell you some electrolyte bs... or some bs broth to break it 😂
Meat was good. Meat is bad. Eggs were good. Eggs are bad. Fasting good. Fasting bad. I've been doing all three since I saw a video you did on fasting years ago. I'm the healthiest I've ever been. Went from 230 to 200. Remember, there's no money for big pharma when people are healthy.
Agreed. Started fasting regularly. Down 50lbs to 240 and feeling so much better
the whole point of this long video is just to monitor muscle mass loss due to decreased protein intake as a result of eating only in a limited time duration.
keep up resistance training, keep taking adequate protein and all essentials &antioxidants and maximize authopagy potential of the body, such a fundemantal evolutionary defense mechanism alone by itself can take care of so many issues fundamentaly wrong at cellular and even at dna level inside the body. you're good to go.
untill "engineered" telomerase repair and elongation is achieved customized fasting regimes for individuals alongside proper macros and autophagy targeted physical training (this is another science) is the golden recipe.
no other trash talk now in 2024 can prove otherwise. these are hard limits, hard boundaries well established after massively experimented fads purposefully marketed by the industries for profit maximization and creating consumer dependence on the status quo for the last 60 years starting with the invention of "american breakfast" in 50s&60s.
we all know from 80's industrial campaigns against butter/meat/organ meat etc. only to starve whole populations with hydrogenated palm oils, carb&fruit juice loaded diets only to increase obesity to a level never seen in human history before!
@ApolloSuns It started me on the road to better habits. No more drinking. No more processed foods. No added sugars. No coffee past noon. 16-8 during the week and Sat-Sun I live a little
Everything in moderation, including fasting. And for women especially, it's not wise to intermittent fast longer than 16/8. One longer fast per year (3-4 days) is sufficient. Also: too much protein is hard on kidneys.
Content, views, $$$$ gotta switch it up for them clicks
It is worthy. I am 73 years old and living proof of it. I have been fasting for the past 20 years without any negative side effects. I fast 16 hours on and 8 hours off. On Saturday and Sunday up to 20 hours. I do not take any medications of any kind, not even Tylenol. The last time I had a cold was in 2002. I exercise daily from 0500 to 0600 hrs, do not feel fatigue, tired; rather, full of energy ready to tackle the day by standing up to 8 hours dispensing medications to people my age and much younger. I practice good eating habits and take my supplements. There you have it. Not bad for an old fart
Which supplements?
That works for you. What works for you will not work for everyone.
Ok I agree it works for you and is good for you, but one hour of exercise a day is not a lot even at your age, if you increase your training load you will need more protein, what you are doing now is putting your body to close to atrophy.
1 hour exercise a day is better than no exercise
@@nabilmohamadnasir8744Only just
Everyone stay calm and just wait six months everything will change again and you won’t have to change anything
😅😅😅
Yep. These people are pushing extreme eating programs. The South Beach Diet, The Zone Diet, Atkins, Weight Watchers, Protein Power, Fasting, High Carb, Low Carb, you can lose fat and weight on all of these diets because the main culprit isn't so much what you're eating, it's how many calories you consume that causes weight loss or weight gain.
Think someone deleted my comment. Can't remember what I wrote but glad you got a laugh out of it 😁
I changed my mind listening and watching these "experts". I watch and listen to myself.
They all sell books
Yes! Listen to your own body.
60% of americans are overweight or obese because they listen to their bodies 😅😅😅😅😂😂
@@robbatayaki5505 Rephrase... Because they do not know how to listen to their bodies. Clueless.
@@charflorida5433 if 80% dont know, better not give them this advice. They should, like you, continue to watch quality youtube videos.... lol
Thats like: coffee is good for you, coffee is bad for you... I just continue doing my 18/6 intermittent fasting because I lost 30 lbs and I feel great.
Started skipping breakfast go to gym on empty stomach best decision I ever made
I agree with you 100% I made the same decision and I feel great doing this. Working out on empty stomach was the only thing that helped me see my abs again. Nothing else was working
Nothing wrong with that if you go soon after waking up and just not hungry, but also no benefit to doing that. Personally I'm always strong mid day/evening after ive had good amount of food in me vs early morning fasted work out.
what do you mean you skip breakfast? the first meal of the day is breakfast.
@@hotsky83 Yes, I imagine so, becuase your metabolic flexibility is in the pan, literally by the sounds of it.
I agree. In the morning I run without eating anything and then I go to work part time and eat at 1:45 pm when I get home and I feel great! When I eat before work I always feel heavier and not as good
I'm 60 years old, and people say that I look 47, I have been doing 16 hours fasting for 30 years, I eat chicken with lots of vegetables and some fruits and nuts and i cook with extra virgin olive oil, I feel great, never had any health problems and I will never stop fasting.
47 exactly? Not 46 nor 48?!!😅
@@DebbieTDP the point being fasting works
@@Bulletproofyourhealth I know by personal experience.
I found the 47 mark weird. That's all
There's nothing weird about it. There's just a common trend on what people assume you to be. People always say I look 17 or 20@@DebbieTDP
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"Fasting is the best medicine ever "
Ikr
Still true
Yes!
Agreed! 🙌🏼
I think fasting is BS. Just change your food quality and you don't have to suffer by not eating.
I fast since 2020 my food bills plummeted. Blood work best it’s ever been . Have a relationship with a beautiful woman 20 years my junior . Happy life 🎉
Well done, well done indeed 👏 😊
Exactly, same here, intermittent fasting has only made my day to day life and health better.
That worked for you. Won’t work for everyone. Clearly not working out or running or playing sports. Being active requires calories. Duh…
@@cielostack2698 😂😂😂 I can bench twice my body weight not many people walking the planet can your theory is dismissed
Most people benefit from not eating for at least 12 hours
The one permanent feature of science is that it will inevitably change , do what works for you!
💯
AMEN. Thank you for saying it❣
Have you interviewed Dr. Jason Fung yet?
Jason Fung LOL. That guy is the main event at the circus
@@TxMxT27 that the circus you work at as part of the freakshow?
@@TxMxT27have you read The Diabetes Code or The Obesity Code? There is a ton of research and evidence in those books. What makes you say he is in the “circus”?
@@TxMxT27have you read The Diabetes Code or The Obesity Code? There is a ton of research and evidence in those books. What makes you say he is in the “circus”?
That's his main Schick lol
If the "experts" claim it is bad for you, what they mean is their is no profit in it and fasting is good for you. Follow the money on the study.
Definitely 👍
right! fasting is great! these experts are newbees
Good and bad are absolutes. Only the Sith deals in absolutes.
Full fasting is positively impactful while intermittent fasting is done to keep the pounds off. I recently fasted for 9 days, with dry fasting firstb6 days, and water fasting the next 3 days and I can feel the huge difference than when I only do intermittent fasting. Real full fasting works
I heard many experts say sjooting yourself in your head is really bad for your health so I’m trying that out next
These people did not get ill and then experience healing themselves through fasting. I did. And it appears there are volumes more studies supporting fasting than the recent one or two no peer reviewed studies that suddenly don't support it.
I have always been fasting at least 16 hours a day. But in the past year, I have really been following Dr. Mindy and increasing the longer fast. Doing one 24-36 hr fast once per week followed by daily intermittent fasting. I have GAINED FAT, Gained cellulite, lost energy and it seems like my metabolism is stuck. Like now, I’m afraid to eat because even when I do eat healthy… And I incorporate, walnuts, nut butter, avocados that fat goes right to my thighs now. And now that I don’t have the energy to run like I used to before I cannot burn that fat off. I feel less energized and motivated after longer fasts and definitely don’t have the stamina, strength energy or endurance to do the workouts I used to that left me feeling way more lean, energized and healthier than fasting has gotten me. I need to get back to doing maybe 16 hours of daily fasting but increasing my workouts several days a week. Because walking and doing longer fasting just doesn’t do it for me. It’s like I have no muscle tone, no strength and actually more cellulite than I ever had before. 🏃♀
@@HH-gv8mx I'm so sorry you are experiencing so much! I can't speak to your results because I don't know your medical situation or food intake! But I know for me, after 30 years vegetarian and juice fast cleanses, I hit menapause and slow metabolism. I follow Dr. Mindy, too. For over 5 years, and Dr. Boz. I had a cancer scare, pre diabetic numbers/ insulin resistance, and some related health concerns including 30 extra pounds of weight! 72 hour fasting on keto diet (whole , unprocessed foods, no seed oils, organic, HIGH FAT 80% of my diet is fat very low carbs) brought my AIC from 5.7 to 4.8 and my cholesteral ratios, HOMO IR to perfect. I reversed all insulin resistance. Cancer healed. I evicted over 30 pounds. I keep it off with IF. But low fat , high carb made me unhealthy. I believe that it's important to eat properly along with the fasting, and to understand the body chemisty as this goes on. I'm going to be 58 years old in June and I feel and look healthier than ever in my life. I get compliments on my skin and hair all the time. There are hundreds of peer reviewed scientifically supported studies on the benefits of fasting, and metabolic switching is important. If you don't follow true ketosis then it's simply "yo yo dieting" and can mess up the metabolism rather than correct it. A continuous glucose monitor CGM is a great tool I paid for it out of pocket for three months, just to see how my body reacted to certain foods. My insluin is down to 6 from over 20! I believe in the power of fasting , correctly, and low carb high fat.
@@HH-gv8mxresistance training meaning weight training &/or body weight and cut back on the fats! There’s a ton of calories in nuts and nut butters!
Fasting was the most mind-blowing "discovery" I made for myself (I put that in quotes because obviously I followed others like Dr. Fung talking about it). It was like discovering how I had lived in my own "Matrix", got to see it from the outside for the first time, and now I live outside of some unknown prison I had lived in for 40 years (the belief that I HAD to eat). Fasting changed my life utterly, both as intermittent and as the prolonged version. It's one of the most powerful tools available to us, along with what we chose to eat, how much of it, the exercise we chose, and the mental stress we place upon ourselves. Play with all the variables, discover what works for you (and it's fluid - what works today may not work in 10 years as you age and can't do some exercises, for example).
I have always been fasting at least 16 hours a day. But in the past year, I have really been following Dr. Mindy and increasing the longer fast. Doing one 24-36 hr fast once per week followed by daily intermittent fasting. I have GAINED FAT, Gained cellulite, lost energy and it seems like my metabolism is stuck. Like now, I’m afraid to eat because even when I do eat healthy… And I incorporate, walnuts, nut butter, avocados that fat goes right to my thighs now. And now that I don’t have the energy to run like I used to before I cannot burn that fat off. I feel less energized and motivated after longer fasts and definitely don’t have the stamina, strength energy or endurance to do the workouts I used to that left me feeling way more lean, energized and healthier than fasting has gotten me. I need to get back to doing maybe 16 hours of daily fasting but increasing my workouts several days a week. Because walking and doing longer fasting just doesn’t do it for me. It’s like I have no muscle tone, no strength and actually more cellulite than I ever had before. 🏃♀
Well said!
For over 50 years the best single thing I can do for my health is a 3 day fast. Period end of story. Thanks
How often do you do the 3-day fast, and with what? Water only? Electrolytes?
Very true. Finishing a 3 day right now. It has been my go to for a decade. Sometimes I go up to 7 days, sometimes 5, but always try to atleast complete 3 days. I do IF daily for an 18:6 fast to eating windows. I'm finding that I need more protein than i generally eat though so I will address that next.
So basically anything “experts” tell you, don’t take too seriously because it will all be proven to be the opposite years down the road… as long as they get the views and clicks on their videos is the plan.
Social Media Science
If you remove your genitals you will have more blood energy for the rest of your body.
That's right
Consensus vs. Science
It's all about the Ratings.......or the clicks. ❤
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😂😂 well said 😂😂
Ha, yeah. Every time I watch one of these I always ask myself why I can't get enough protein in.
Yea no shit
protein powder isn't the same as protein from meat. It does help though but it's not as efficient as meat has more nutrients in it.
In last ramadhan, i only eat once at 18.00 and drink (18.00-22.00 time window) i feel great
Currently on a carnivore journey and I am definitely getting enough protein. Feel better than ever, I usually fast 16-20hrs a day and have 2 meals a day.
Well, I am living proof that my weight was 290 lbs. Now I am down to 237. Fasting ,exercise, and eating smarter have changed my life.
I fast. I rarely eat before 1pm. I maintain a healthy weight, I feel good and I am not hungry. Sometimes I don’t eat until dinner, depending on my activity level or energy level.
Breakfast by 7am is very important... last and final meal 6.30 or 7.30pm..You will feel much better.. As you age..missing breakfast will cause problems..missing lunch is recommended unless you are involved in heavy work under the sun..or eat some light snacks if u need to , drink water, and take a nap ..
I'm the same. I don't eat until 2 pm or later, and it's easy for me. I know that eating earlier in the day and stopping by late afternoon is supposed to be better for you, but my mind and body can't do that. I'd be cheating all the time in the evening. I didn't start fasting for any reason as I didn't have health or weight issues (haven't had a cold since 1986 and it lasted 1 day, nor have I had the flu my entire adult life - or flu shot), but figured it would keep me healthy as I am getting older.
The thing about fasting is that no one makes money from it.
We always think about the food and snack corporations, but nearly all these "experts" have sponsors, or a product with their name and face on it that would break a fast if it's regularly consumed.
Fasting doesn't grease anyone's palms.
As a Type 2 diabetic, I will keep on with intermittent fasting with a keto diet! Great interview with so many guests. Thanks for your help.
You need to interview Valter Longo, Mark Matson, Jason Fung and other people who knows more about fasting, mTor and AMPK and cell signaling pathways.
Add Jeff Volek, Dr. Don Clum, Tim Noakes
Dung is a joke who ignores lots of nutritional science
THEY SAY FASTING IS BAD TODAY, BUT IN 9 MONTHS, THESE SAME EXPERTS WILL SAY FASTING IS GOOD.HOW CAN FASTING BE GOOD FOR YOU YESTERDAY, ACCORDING TO THE STUDIES, AND TODAY ITS BAD FOR YOU.
Garbage spewed up in the name of science and it's always changing to suite someone's agenda while you fast someone is losing money us Muslims have been fasting since the day we were 15 guess where the least heart attacks cancers are in the Quran says fasting is good for you period anyone who has fasted can testify it's a rest from all this chemical filled foods were now forced to eat they mad people are awake the more often you fast the less often you get sick so big pharma and the food industry who are in Kahoots are kicking themselves
Exactly!
It's not that they're saying it's bad, they're cautious because IF can lead you to eat less protein than necessary (probably because of the myth about how human body can absorb only 30gr of protein per meal, which was already debunked a few videos ago)
...uh derp🥴
Updated data? 😃
@@SKErwin2 Agree! 👍
Logical explanation.
But trying to sell those who believe we are being bamboozled, based on their (conspiracy theory) idea that the fasting cash cow has run out of milk🙄 - therefore, no more profit from fasting advice - and that's why experts are changing their minds.
Nevermind ANY logic on how they made a profit on advising fasting in the 1st place 😂
(makes no sense)
All of these people are fairly lean to begin with and they train hard compared to most. I think you should talk with Jason Fung. His clinic uses fasting for insulin resistant metabolically challenged overweight people. Fasting works best for them to improve their quality of life in every way.
I think they need to define/clarify their use of the term fasting.
1. Are they referring to intermittent fasting? (Eating only within a specific time window each day?)
2. Are they referring to OMAD (one meal a day?)
3. Are they referring to 24 or more hours without food?
Etc.
I agree. I try to intermittent fast 3 days a week 16/8 and I try to still get the recommended protein.
Agree, it's all higgildy piggledy.
Fasting is a spiritual discipline that is taught in the Bible. Jesus expected His followers to fast, and He said that God rewards fasting. Fasting, according to the Bible, means to voluntarily reduce or eliminate your intake of food for a specific time and purpose.
Exactly. Fasting is meant to be a spiritual practice... not daily for nutrition purposes... 😂 nowhere in the Bible do people fast everyday. It's meant to be short term.
in the Bible it says it proves clarity
Amen! I usually fast for 16 hours daily, and did my first 72-hour fast at the end of Lent. At first I was worried I would lose muscle, but I started resistance training before around the same time that I started IF, and so far fasting has not resulted in muscle loss. I fast for both physical and spiritual health 💪🙏
@@anneg7411, how do you know you haven't lost muscle mass, did you get a muscular biopsy done, or are you simply guessing? Never trust personal anecdotes unless backed by evidentiary proof!
Yes!!
All I know is this: Due to 18-hour fasts on a daily basis, I was able to lose over 30 pounds in a 4 month period. In addition to the weight loss, certain biomarkers improved significantly (i.e. cholesterol, blood sugar/insulin resistance, blood pressure). Not to mention better energy levels and mental clarity.
So, considering all of the benefits mentioned above, I will continue with my daily fasting protocol. Naysayers or individuals that no longer fast will not deter me from continuing such a practice.
👉💯🧘♂️🙏☯️
Agree 100%. Fasting has been the easiest way by far for me to maintain a healthy body weight.
Well said! 👍👍
i agree, i will never stop time restricted eating (17/7 to 20/4 with occasional longer fasts) because it helped me lose weight & keep it off but best of all it cured my compulsive eating ( mostly junk foods) & i’m now feel super healthy at 70. been doing this since i was 62. how can this possibly be bad for me?
This seems to be what they're indicating in the quotes in the video: that fasting will cut fat and possibly muscle mass.
@@azzgunther
Yes, I agree.
An, imo, those here who are reporting weightloss with Fasting may have missed the point of this video....
IMO the point of this video was to make viewers aware that Fasting can have drawbacks - especially when it comes to the realization that a loss of muscle mass will generally accompany fatloss.
I DO think Thomas chose the wrong (unfortunate) title AND subtitle for this video.
When we get past the negative (possibly clickbait) title- and watch the video, we see that no 'expert' is generally against fasting - but, instead, are stating that fasting d/n work for them - and further that they wanted to convey some of the misnomers about - and drawbacks of - Fasting.
This, imo, clearly came across in those video- but again, an unfortunate and misleading title was assigned To this video!
I used to rabbit hole on UA-cam about health. For many years. Now ignore everything.
None of these experts referred to any medical studies for their recommendations. I’m accustomed to Dr Ken Berry’s and Dr Jason Fung’s always referring to studies to support ideas. I’m still wrestling with residual insulin resistance from decades of carb addiction. I’ll keep intermittent fasting.
I haven't eaten before noon for over a year and am in excellent shape, with strong muscles, workouts, and protein!.
I have always been fasting at least 16 hours a day. But in the past year, I have really been following Dr. Mindy and increasing the longer fast. Doing one 24-36 hr fast once per week followed by daily intermittent fasting. I have GAINED FAT, Gained cellulite, lost energy and it seems like my metabolism is stuck. Like now, I’m afraid to eat because even when I do eat healthy… And I incorporate, walnuts, nut butter, avocados that fat goes right to my thighs now. And now that I don’t have the energy to run like I used to before I cannot burn that fat off. I feel less energized and motivated after longer fasts and definitely don’t have the stamina, strength energy or endurance to do the workouts I used to that left me feeling way more lean, energized and healthier than fasting has gotten me. I need to get back to doing maybe 16 hours of daily fasting but increasing my workouts several days a week. Because walking and doing longer fasting just doesn’t do it for me. It’s like I have no muscle tone, no strength and actually more cellulite than I ever had before. 🏃♀
@HH-gv8mx Maybe it's time to shake up that routine, stay away from the sugar and carbs and experiment, eat only whole foods. If you're female, it may be a change in hormones. Don't give up.
Call me a rebel, but I do what I want and what suits me. Period.
The only "expert" on my health is ME.
Of course, do what you want. But to say YOU are the only expert on your health is a bit ridiculous. How do YOU know what is actually bad for you? Did someone tell you that eating utlra processed food was very bad for you, or did you work it out for yourself? My point is that with all the garbage food around nowadays we simply can't determine what's bad for us without some kind of external information source.
When we ate what we found and grew we didn't need to know any of that.
I did IF and went from diabetic to an a1c of 4.8. I backed off a little bit on IF (down to 4 days/wk) and gained 25 lbs and inflammation increased. I'm going back. I would assume these people aren't prone to metabolic issues.
I feel something they may also have in common is a relatively intense/religious workout schedule - you could probably call these people athletes. There's lots of benefits common to fasting and exercise, but that doesn't mean more of both is better in combo. Constant heavy workouts probably do pair better with "feasting" mode. If you're already working out so much that you couldn't gain fat if you tried, maybe you're already on the edge.
Like, I am noticing the contrast with the perspective of other big fasting proponents who advise to keep exercise low/light during long fasts so as not to confound the muscle preserving processes - which seems synergistic with the natural rhythms. Maybe those guys have just been on the money all along, and if you're a gym junkie with a high exercise load who would never dream of skipping a leg day, this is just the expected result of "I'll just add fasting to what I'm doing". Sometimes these "biohackers" have a tendency towards extremes that override instincts, you know? If I did what some of them do, my body would fall in a heap - or at least it would have at the beginning of my healing journey. I wouldn't care to try their way now.
I don't know. I'm no expert myself. But I do know fasting works well for me for keeping my health in check with a lifestyle that my body can sustain. I feel like I'm working with its natural rhythms and it isn't going to revolt on me. Let them experiment with maintaining heavy training AND fasting AND adding 2g/kg of protein and crunch their spreadsheets to see the results. My body and I will keep on doing what works well for us.
You are on the money. 🎯
I have always been fasting at least 16 hours a day. But in the past year, I have really been following Dr. Mindy and increasing the longer fast. Doing one 24-36 hr fast once per week followed by daily intermittent fasting. I have GAINED FAT, Gained cellulite, lost energy and it seems like my metabolism is stuck. Like now, I’m afraid to eat because even when I do eat healthy… And I incorporate, walnuts, nut butter, avocados that fat goes right to my thighs now. And now that I don’t have the energy to run like I used to before I cannot burn that fat off. I feel less energized and motivated after longer fasts and definitely don’t have the stamina, strength energy or endurance to do the workouts I used to that left me feeling way more lean, energized and healthier than fasting has gotten me. I need to get back to doing maybe 16 hours of daily fasting but increasing my workouts several days a week. Because walking and doing longer fasting just doesn’t do it for me. It’s like I have no muscle tone, no strength and actually more cellulite than I ever had before. 🏃♀
@@HH-gv8mx lose the nuts.
@@HH-gv8mx. Are you going through menopause by chance? I was a runner and saw some of the same undesirable changes in my body. Balancing hormones helps.
Fasting has been practiced in many religions for centuries ❤ Jesus fasted for 40 days and 40 nights to be more pure. Fasting is healthy ❤
Ok .... it was NOT to "be more pure"... he's Jesus, he couldn't GET any more pure 🤔
I couldn't agree more!
Our bodies were created to survive famine.
So are you suggesting that fasting for 40 days is actually healthy? Jesus also walked on water, that doesn't mean I'm jumping off of my cruse ship😂😂😂
When the “experts” say you’re wrong, then you know you’re right. Keep cracking Thomas 💪🏼
Enjoying this part of your channel Thomas, not just the interviews, but combining several into specific themes. Good stuff!
Thomas, I appreciate the content you put out so much! I’ve been listening to you for years. You always seem to be in connection with the other experts I follow. Thank you for the information you provide and the research that you do!
This video focused a great deal on muscle mass, and I get why that's important, but what about those of us doing 16:8 in order to improve insulin sensitivity?
Very informative. Thanks for all the time and effort you put into collating and discerning the truth. Much love, brother 🙌
Anything, taken to the extreme, can be deleterious. If you consume too much water you can induce hyponatremia, which can be fatal. Should we, therefore, consider drinking water as dangerous? Absolutely not. Similarly, fasting can have benefits, but it must be done in such a way as to not induce significant muscle atrophy it can be problematic.
Yeah, Attia abandoning fasting when he was doing crazy 7-day water fasts regularly, is advice for himself, not the average faster who's doing 18h to 48h. The average person is 28% body fat percentage now (this is just below the obesity threshold); fasting is crucial for average Joe. The advice should be: fast for up to 48h, and get the eggs, bacon, butter, ground beef and electrolytes down you.
This is a psychological trick that GREATLY rises fears of body builders but what about the fact that overly huge muscles aren’t healthy for joints in the first place? Maybe less muscles via fasting is healthy for joints
If the concern with IM is deficient protein intake, doesn’t the issue presented on recent videos that the discovery of the body’s ability to utilize protein over a longer period than previously assumed offer a “best of both worlds” position? If consuming high amounts of protein regardless of the duration of the feeding window still offers the benefits of protein consumption, why not continue IM while reaching protein intake goals during whatever one’s feeding window is?
@@OttoBoy Exactly!
@@OttoBoy SIMPLY. 🏆
Peter Attia took something to the extreme and STILL after 3 years only lost 10 pounds of muscle.
He was lean. But looked better. He looks chubby now
what do you mean by extreme?
Attia looks like he's getting some pharmaceutical help these days. Those muscles showed up unnaturally quick. @@martinezjames83
How many times do you think "experts" can tell us to do the exact opposite of what they espoused previously, before we come to the understanding that we're being manipulated? I'll tell you in my case, that moment is now. Thanks for the memories Thomas. I wish I could say it's been fun.
If you need new content everyday, a great deal of it is gonna end up contradictory, and a lot of bullshit will pop up.
Yeah bart kay has ruined most of the health influencers I used to follow including Thomas. Bart tears them apart lol
I have to agree; at 61 (now 63), I began Keto (which saved my life; long story), but I didn't know about the increased need for protein. With multiple 2 and 4 day fasts I lost a lot of fat AND lean muscle; the latter which I had from my many years of working out as a younger man. Now I have a shoulder issue because of it; still trying to recover. So I take creatine and have upped my protein; doing mostly carnivore diet with some fasting on the weekends; "flexing out" of Keto (per Keto Kamp's channel); often doing two small meals and a big one - with some carbs once or twice a week.
The biggest take away is that fasting can be a tool to use, but make sure your not excessively straining your body with multiple day fasts. Intermittent fasting seems fine as long as you are getting enough protein and rest to recover.
Like you're not stressing the body out by eating shit foods and drinks. Give meva break.
@Goatie89
Your 'takeaway' on what they are actually stating here is , imo, correct.
How can so many here just hyperbole their way thru this video and come up with a skewed version of what's being said?
Lol, are there 2 video's here?😅
So this is what the experts say Mr. Delauer? I thought you were the expert. So we need more protein now? What ever happened to restricting protein to achieve autophagy?
They done made their money from fasting now it’s time for them to move on. SMH
I've noticed this several times as well
Social Media Science
Some of these people hit their health goals using fasting. Now time to flip the script. Come on man.
Not everyone who says something you don't like is a grifter. New research data is constantly being released and these guys consume that data and respond to it. That is what science is supposed to do, evolve. That said, I have no plans of changing my 18/6 IF routine because I don't do prolonged fasting anyway, which is primarily what they are concerned about. In any case, it's a bit lazy to always assume that everyone is lying to you. My suggestion is to review the latest research and see for yourself whether or not there is any validity to what they are saying.
@@dlg5485 I couldn’t say it any better. Completely agree with you
I have been doing either 16/8 to 18/6 for over six years, I am soon to be 60 in the best physical shape I have been.
Excellent Post Thomas. I’ve listen to all those people, but don’t have enough time in the day to be up on all of their personal research. I luv the way you utilized all of them into one well done analysis..
Dr. Lyon saved my life with her protein suggestions. I was going through perimenopause and one of the best remedies to relieve symptoms was significantly increasing my protein. I will add that you, Thomas, sold me on iF and that relieved Perimenopausal symptoms, too.
It is the fat that saved you not protein. Please research Dr Elizabeth Bright when it comes to your problem
@TirraOmilade
Me too!😃
(Dr. Lyon saved my life...)
I went fm sickly vegan, back to omnivore (and good health!) - the very day I caught her interview on 'Health Theory' Podcast 4 years ago👍
I have always been fasting at least 16 hours a day. But in the past year, I have really been following Dr. Mindy and increasing the longer fast. Doing one 24-36 hr fast once per week followed by daily intermittent fasting. I have GAINED FAT, Gained cellulite, lost energy and it seems like my metabolism is stuck. Like now, I’m afraid to eat because even when I do eat healthy… And I incorporate, walnuts, nut butter, avocados that fat goes right to my thighs now. And now that I don’t have the energy to run like I used to before I cannot burn that fat off. I feel less energized and motivated after longer fasts and definitely don’t have the stamina, strength energy or endurance to do the workouts I used to that left me feeling way more lean, energized and healthier than fasting has gotten me. I need to get back to doing maybe 16 hours of daily fasting but increasing my workouts several days a week. Because walking and doing longer fasting just doesn’t do it for me. It’s like I have no muscle tone, no strength and actually more cellulite than I ever had before. 🏃♀
I'm 60. I regularly do 18:6 fast. Sometimes this is done by skipping breakfast, sometime an early dinner/late lunch at work at 3PM, then breakfast 9AM. I work out 4 times a week, 5PM weekdays, morning on weekend, and always eat plenty of protein after I work out, meat and plant. Any other times I stick to mostly plant-based proteins. DESPITE FASTING, I HAVE GAINED PLENTY OF MUSCLE MASS! So much, that is is obvious in the mirror. I am not competing in any sports, so really how much muscle does one need, if one is obviously very muscular? When I did a 4 day fast I did lose muscle, but I got it back soon enough. So I do a prolonged fast only a couple times a year just to hopefully get into autophagy. Fasting is the easiest way for me personally to keep off the fat. My priority of low belly fat and sleep well (I can't go to bed too hungry). Since I lost weight this way five years ago, I no longer have heart palpitation or puffy feet!
The man I really love your videos, you do a really good job explaining things and really get down to the nitty gritty. Thanks so much
Great video. Putting all those experts together in one place like that. Nice job, Thomas.
I just don't think we are designed to eat all day. The only animals that do this are herbivores. We do need plenty of protein for sure but do we need to be eating it all day long?
You’re right! We’re not designed to eat all day. These experts are lying. They want us fat so they can sell us more Ozempic.
@159awi
Your 'point' is moot.
In fact, not a relevant point at all.
Failure to Fast does not equate to 'eating all day'.
AND... is not at all the suggestion being made here😊
@@barbarafairbanks4578 granted, 'all day' is hyperbole. But these guys seem to have a fear of catabolism. But that is a perfectly normal state. Required, in fact. At some point you have to tear down the old and build up the new. And there are plenty of other proteins that need to go besides skeletal muscle.
I don't fast. I just make dinner the last meal of the day around 6pm and don't eat until 8am. I don't consider this fasting. Just normal eating for me.
@@saskhiker3935
Very sensible.
So much confusion over what constitutes 'fasting'...
I'm not surprised that (imo) many here have the same feeding/non-feeding window as you, but insist on calling it 'fasting'😅
Most people eat too much ' fasting is not skipping meals just going longer without food '
Thomas did such a great job representing everyone he interviewed. Thats a lot of trust from all the other experts interviewed. Thanks for the daily motivation!
I've been doing a 16/8 fasting protocol for years. I am 67 and feel like 45. I consume organic foods, wild blueberries, apples, greens, onions, organ meats, regenerative pasture raised eggs, Bison, Elk and other healthy proteins. I switched from doing intense fasted workouts (due to excess cortisol levels) to fed weight training, and have actually increased my strength. The world record for 198 lb squats is only 365 lbs for the 70+ age group. At 67, I have done 465 and plan on shattering the record by age 70. It is ALL about strength for longevity. Your body watches your "Vitality" and produces hormones to match. My motto... "Don't let the old man in!".
The video featuring Thomas DeLauer discussing expert opinions on fasting, including those of Dr. Peter Attia, Dr. Rhonda Patrick, and Dr. Gabrielle Lyon, offers several key takeaways on the reconsideration of fasting practices:
1. **Shift in Expert Opinion:** Many health and fitness experts who once advocated for fasting have revised their views based on emerging evidence and personal observations related to muscle mass preservation and overall health impacts.
2. **Concern Over Muscle Mass:** A significant concern among these experts is the potential for muscle loss during fasting, especially with prolonged periods without food. Maintaining muscle mass is emphasized as crucial for health and longevity.
3. **The Importance of Protein:** The discussions underline the critical role of protein in preventing muscle breakdown. Adequate protein intake is essential, particularly after periods of fasting, to support muscle protein synthesis.
4. **Revised Fasting Practices:** While fasting can have benefits, these experts suggest modifications to fasting routines to mitigate negative effects, such as focusing on sufficient protein consumption and timing workouts to preserve muscle.
5. **Protein Intake Recommendations:** For those engaging in fasting, a higher protein intake than previously thought necessary is recommended-ranging from 1.6 to 2 grams per kilogram of body weight-to support muscle maintenance or growth.
6. **Exercise and Fasting Compatibility:** Resistance training is highlighted as beneficial during fasting periods to help counteract muscle loss. Proper nutrition, particularly adequate protein and calorie intake around exercise, is crucial.
7. **Balanced Approach to Fasting:** The experts advocate for a balanced approach that incorporates fasting into a lifestyle that also prioritizes muscle preservation through diet and exercise, rather than fasting in isolation.
8. **Fasting is Not One-size-fits-all:** The evolving perspectives of these health experts reflect a more nuanced understanding of fasting, recognizing it can be part of a healthy lifestyle if properly managed, especially in terms of nutrition and physical activity.
@MrQuadcity
Good and very useful summary. Thanks!👍
I think it would also be important in a video like this to address people who may be fasting due to certain medical conditions. All of the people in this video were fasting to optimize health.
8 years fasting and I feel the best ever. I am tired of these so called experts like Attia and Patrick and their waco studies and conclusions.
really appreciate that you compressed all of this info into 1 vid
Fasting is good for people I eat breakfast but finish eating by 4pm/ 5pm I’m only eating 2 meals a day and feel great at 61 my skin is glowing.
I like how the term "expert" gets thrown around --there arent any in a field with more questions than answers
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We Americans, for being the unhealthiest people in the industrialized world (still edging out the U.K.), are obsessed with the most esoteric and obscure food regimens. I stopped eating processed and fast foods and dropped 20 pounds without any further effort. It’s really that easy.
I've always felt that it is super easy to regain muscle after fasting. I water fast for usually 4-7 days a few times per year, and no question, you do lose some muscle. But within 2-3 weeks, I'm back to making progress at the gym. Sometimes you have to take one step back to propel you two steps forward.
@simplenothing
OR you could be the type of genetic outlier known in (mostly gym circles) as a 'gainer' - put on muscle very easily.
...def, not common for the majority. And so... not recommended, imo, for the average person.
Another case of 'What's good for the goose'...
NOT necessarily 'good for the gander.'
I have always been fasting at least 16 hours a day. But in the past year, I have really been following Dr. Mindy and increasing the longer fast. Doing one 24-36 hr fast once per week followed by daily intermittent fasting. I have GAINED FAT, Gained cellulite, lost energy and it seems like my metabolism is stuck. Like now, I’m afraid to eat because even when I do eat healthy… And I incorporate, walnuts, nut butter, avocados that fat goes right to my thighs now. And now that I don’t have the energy to run like I used to before I cannot burn that fat off. I feel less energized and motivated after longer fasts and definitely don’t have the stamina, strength energy or endurance to do the workouts I used to that left me feeling way more lean, energized and healthier than fasting has gotten me. I need to get back to doing maybe 16 hours of daily fasting but increasing my workouts several days a week. Because walking and doing longer fasting just doesn’t do it for me. It’s like I have no muscle tone, no strength and actually more cellulite than I ever had before. 🏃♀
The guy here was fasting almost 1/5 of all days... once weekly, 3 days monthly, 7 days quarterly...
There's a guy who had crohns disease... he lost over 30kg in the hospital... and put it back on in only 12 weeks... muscle is actually very easy to regain,even after extreme loss...
There was also a video stating cold plunge like what Joe Rogan was doing was actually harmful in the long run. There was an actual study proving harmful effects. Now I am also skeptical about this long sauna Rhonda is advocating.
Best advice I can give is research with an open mind and do what works for you
The best benefit of fasting is that you lower anxiety and dettach emotions from eating, so you are not associating bad or good feelings with food, so you feel really liberated, you feel control of yourself, pain is not that bad, fear is gone. That alone is worth of it.
Great episode Thomas! Intermittent fasting is something that has always worked best for me as a way to lose body fat, most likely because it makes compliance to a calorie defect easier. I have tried many variations over the years of fasting and choosing what to eat during my feeding window, and I find that an 18/6 fasting schedule (usually switch to 16/8 on heavy training days) and following a modified version of Stan Efferding's Vertical Diet works best for me. ( I cut out the white rice, potatoes, and orange juice when I am trying to drop body fat.)
It amazes me how little these "experts" know about nutrition. They claim this, then they claim that. This, that, this, that. Like Paul Saladino, he changes his mind every 3 years.
Im 56. 5 ft 9. July 2023, i was 230 pounds. Today with 16/8 fasting, and weight lifting, im at 180. Still have 10 pounds to go, but what ive learned in the last year has turned my health and self confidence around. Getting enough protein is key, I agree. 👍
There should be a delineation between fasting for someone in already perfect health with lots of muscle (like these “experts”) and fasting for someone that’s overweight with insulin resistance. Nothing lowers blood insulin levels like fasting.
For me fasting is life saving. I'm pre-diabetic and very overweight. With severe insulin resistance. No matter what I've tried including a GLP one I cannot keep the weight off. So I put myself on a strict keto diet and started intermittent fasting. But I'm doing this to heal a body that has been under stress for a very long time. So for me while keeping the muscle is important because I'm an older woman it is also important that I get this weight off and don't go down the road of diabetes. So for those of us who are not at a healthy weight or not at a healthy point in our lives fasting might just be the thing we need.
I am almost 72, insulin resistant, down about 90 lbs doing KETO but still need to drop a few more. I need more muscle mass....was never an athlete. Sticking with two meals a day until I have a normal A1C, etc. I eat breakfast and have a second meal early afternoon....about 2:00. In the gym 3 days a week with resistance training. Will start daily brisk 2 mile walks when weather gets better. Your posts seem to be addressed primarily to people whose profile I don't fit.
Thank you for this- I relate to all of this. I have done it all and now I feel the same way all of your guests do. It was good, but not optimal.
Some people are overly focused on losing weight fast. It can easily turn into an eating disorder and obsession. They become weak, lose muscle, and they are anxious all the time. They start to believe they look healthy.
I have always been fasting at least 16 hours a day. But in the past year, I have really been following Dr. Mindy and increasing the longer fast. Doing one 24-36 hr fast once per week followed by daily intermittent fasting. I have GAINED FAT, Gained cellulite, lost energy and it seems like my metabolism is stuck. Like now, I’m afraid to eat because even when I do eat healthy… And I incorporate, walnuts, nut butter, avocados that fat goes right to my thighs now. And now that I don’t have the energy to run like I used to before I cannot burn that fat off. I feel less energized and motivated after longer fasts and definitely don’t have the stamina, strength energy or endurance to do the workouts I used to that left me feeling way more lean, energized and healthier than fasting has gotten me. I need to get back to doing maybe 16 hours of daily fasting but increasing my workouts several days a week. Because walking and doing longer fasting just doesn’t do it for me. It’s like I have no muscle tone, no strength and actually more cellulite than I ever had before. 🏃♀
@HH-gv8mx
Longer fasts do not work for me either. I was in the hospital for 9 days at the end of last year. I could not eat because of surgery on my colon. I was shocked at how much muscle and strength I lost. It took weeks to get my stamina and strength back. So long fasts are not for everyone.
The key to fasting is knowing what to eat during your feeding window. Make sure to consume enough calories and proper macros according to your individual goals and needs.
THIS
I always had the odd problem of not being able to gain weight. I did finally start gaining a bit of weight at 47 and breakfast skipping has seemed to correlate to when I'm gaining. So now I finally have been getting some gains at the gym.
The weird thing is that eating more sometimes caused loss and eating less I've gained more. Although when I tracked protein/carbs, I was always hitting good protein targets (~1.7g/kg). Calories alone isn't it, for me. With IF, I feel hungrier more often. That seems to make a bigger difference.
Honestly, you get tired of so much eating, pooping, shopping cooking, dreaming of eating, 24/7. It's nice to see gains without feeling sick from overeating all the time.
I like that she said 'skipping meals' what does thst mean, who decides thefe should be 3 meals and day and if you do less your skipping a meal or adding of you do more.
Havnt watched the video yet.
However, 7 yrs ago I began fasting, lost about 30 pounds, 6 2’ 225 to 195. Omad.
I had abs, probably lost alittle muscle. But you feel so good!
Next time I would eat protein during the day.
Finished the video.
Don’t we think if we take a amino acid supplement at the beginning of your eating window (16:8) that it’s easier to get the amount of aminos in vs having to eat them all?
I have gained pounds back during Covid, I still feel good, but trying to get those abs again (57) and keep more muscle with protein.
Health isn’t necessarily about feeling good. Many people with undiagnosed cancer feel great . Health is more about what your body is like inside.
@@ukestudio3002 fair enough.
@ukestudio3002 but if your messed up on the inside chances are you ain't gonna feel great on the outside.
They want you to eat fast food
And never fast from food
Not a single person cited in this video wants people to eat fast food.
I only eat 2 meals a day but i go to the gym and work out hard. The other day, my work colleague said my muscles are huge.
This is one of your best videos… fast and to the point with all the videos… love it.
Just sick of these so called experts. Give it a few months and they will all be saying something different. Next week, we were wrong about SAD. Ultra-processed foods are good for you.
Better to change based on new data then ignoring data and being married to bad science
@@jumbledb0798right - but this specific video features very Fit (already / currently) experts saying FOR THEM .. they personally aren’t fasting as much these days… But the point / magic of IF is more keenly felt on those losing weight to GET to that Fit state, finally. Certainly, once you ARE in Maintenance Mode / Healthy Weight… you don’t need to be as aggressive with Fasting as maybe you were initially.
But that’s vastly different from “ Fasting is not useful - period.”
@stwve1811
Hyperbole will get you nowhere😅
@@jumbledb0798
Absolutely! Excellent point.👍
@@AlekTrev006
Your comment is obtuse.
On the ine hand - you acknowledge these experts are sharing their personal anecdotes on the fact they, personally, are finding fasting is not benefitting them...
But then you turn around and imply that they are saying fasting is not useful...period.
Which IS it?
Dr Jason Fung would have been nice to hear from.
Agree.
This one was really good Thomas -thanks.
I think it also important to fit the diet to the amount and type of exercise one is doing regulary. For me, a person who excersice once a day and hybriding strengh with cardio training, 18:6 fasting daily seems to work well. I didn't been that healthy for years. With that said, everyone is dynamic and have there own specific health status/issues that needs to take under considaration as well.
The whiplash. I can't keep up. I feel great while fasting, so I frankly don't care what they say. 😂
I have always been fasting at least 16 hours a day. But in the past year, I have really been following Dr. Mindy and increasing the longer fast. Doing one 24-36 hr fast once per week followed by daily intermittent fasting. I have GAINED FAT, Gained cellulite, lost energy and it seems like my metabolism is stuck. Like now, I’m afraid to eat because even when I do eat healthy… And I incorporate, walnuts, nut butter, avocados that fat goes right to my thighs now. And now that I don’t have the energy to run like I used to before I cannot burn that fat off. I feel less energized and motivated after longer fasts and definitely don’t have the stamina, strength energy or endurance to do the workouts I used to that left me feeling way more lean, energized and healthier than fasting has gotten me. I need to get back to doing maybe 16 hours of daily fasting but increasing my workouts several days a week. Because walking and doing longer fasting just doesn’t do it for me. It’s like I have no muscle tone, no strength and actually more cellulite than I ever had before. 🏃♀
pharmaceutical companies losing money on people staying healthy. 🤑
I appreciate the compilation of data!
Summarizing: Fasting can be beneficial IF the protein intake amount is correct. 1gram of protein per pound of body weight (or target body weight).
Skipping a meal is just that. Going on a fast should not be stressful, if it does make you stress, dont do it. Experts are always changing their minds. Its getting ridiculous. Skip the sugar, eat when you are truly hungry and enjoy your life.
👍🙏💝I appreciate you putting this together but I totally believe in fasting.
Wow dude, while not what I wanted to hear, this is so great and important, u da man.
There are people who are constantly looking to optimise there diet or workout regime and they never ever stop , so they are in a constant state of change and these people are front and centre of this movement.
All these experts that are going against fasting are very healthy and fit. They don't need to fast and hence why they might find fasting detrimental. They don't have much fat to lose. For those of us who have a host of metabolic conditions are are overweight, fasting is still probably highly beneficial.
That's it.
Nailed it 🎯
I understand that prolonged fasting can be detrimental for very active athletes, but for people like me who workout 3-4 days a week, just to stay in shape and maintain good health, I believe basic 18/6 IF is essential as a tool to not only maintain a healthy weight, but also to reverse metabolic disease and promote healthy processes in the body. I haven't eaten breakfast in over 5 years and I have gained a significant amount of muscle during that time because I take care to get a good amount of protein during my eating window, particularly in my first meal of the day, which always includes 3-4 eggs, and I have some type of animal protein with dinner. I weigh 172lbs and average about 75g protein during my 6-ish hour eating window and this seems to work quite well for me.
Patrick also did not say no against fasting, she simply said her first meal is important. To someone who fasts, that first meal may come at different times than what is typical or traditional. Dr Huberman talks about not eating for that first hour you wake up no matter what eating schedule or diet you are on
I used to watch most of your stuff and liked it. You are floundering here lately, I wish you well.