These 11 Longevity Scientists Convinced me to Change my Mind on These Topics
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12 Things I've Learned from Top Health Experts on My Channel
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Timestamps ⏱
0:00 - Intro
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1:29 - Dr. Peter Attia - Importance of Protein for Aging + Vo2max
4:15 - Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - Muscle Mass for Longevity
6:05 - Dr. Darren Candow - Creatine for Inflammation & Recovery
7:53 - Dr. Rhonda Patrick - Omega-3s & Cardiovascular Disease Risk
9:07 - Dr. Steven Gundry - Country with the Longest Life Expectancy
11:06 - Dr. Paul Saladino - Diet Quality vs Calories
14:01 - Dr. Rhonda Patrick - Polyphenol Oxidase in Bananas
15:38 - Shawn Stevenson - Processed Food Intake in the USA
17:14 - Dr. Scott Sherr - GABA Supplements Don't Work
19:40 - Dr. Daniel Amen - Alcohol's Effect on the Brain
21:19 - Dr. Kyle Gillett - BPC-157 for Injury & Recovery
23:37 - Alan Aragon - Energy Flux (G-Flux) for Fat Loss
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Attia has confused, to a great degree, correlation with causation and whiffed on the causation.
VO2 max will naturally correlate with mitochondrial health.
People with toxic mitochondria will not get healthier training for a marathon!
Someone with tip-top mitochondria might have so much clean energy they decide to train for marathons on a whim.
It’s the mitochondria, Money!
The VO2 max follows.
If the mitochondria is toxic and said person goes straight to trying to blow up their VO2 max, they may take the pavement temperature challenge sooner rather than later!
Think!
Muscle mass is an effect of mitochondrial health and epigenetics.
I had a friend who was yoked in his 30s. Due to poor epigenetics (the inverse of the RPC), my ability to gain muscle ended at 21 due to nerve damage and, frankly, my body refusing to add muscle and additional mitochondrial stress.
It probably saved my life. My yoked friend had a heart attack at an age about 10 years younger than I am now. The surgeries damaged his kidneys and he’s in dialysis right now.
In our 30s, Attia and Lyon would look at both of is and put me in the grave…. Yet they would have been exactly wrong.
And it wasn’t because I had any secret sauce - I was a mess, but my body had a mechanism in play that made working out futile. If it didn’t, I would have worked myself to death as those muscles would have torched my bio-copper and magnesium such that my heart would have become depleted!
If your muscles are torching your deleted bio-copper and magnesium stores, brother… your heart will deplete faster.
2+2=4.
I agree with both ASSUMING one has healthy mitochondria.
If not, and many don’t, then they need some combination of the RPC and detox to rebuild their bio-copper, magnesium, retinoic acid and mitochondrial epigenetics and function first, or following your advice here might well damage or kill them much sooner than if they didn’t.
Energy flux validates my point.
Low energy flux will strongly correlate with low functioning mitochondria and high energy flux will strongly correlate high functioning mitochondria with solid mitochondrial epigenetics.
So… 2+2=4 again!
Sit back, relax, and think slowly through your assumed cause and effect paradigm and try to prove whatever you think is the cause of health is superior to mitochondrial function.
I have and mitochondrial function is the top of the mountain as far as I can tell.
Everything else flows from it.
The cart can’t pull the horse.
I increased my protein intake to double. I am as sharp as a knife. I went back to work part time. And in March I am taking web coding pages, and TESL. Oh I am 74 years old.
YAY That’s awesome!
Congrats 👏🏻
I looked at your channel. Are you still doing keto? How are your blood lipid levels?
I mix coffee with raw egg every morning. And raw egg with the lunch or dinner also. I also do some small exercises. I'm 65 and still healthy.
@@sootuckchoong7077 what country do you live in? Asking because I am wondering about food safety.
Muscle is very important. My mother in her early 80's stopped driving, stopped walking, stopped looking after animals on her farm, and spent all day sitting watching TV. She became bone thin, couldn't walk or hardly stand, became very frail, and passed within a year.
I respect Thomas's willingness to listen to and continue to dialog with those with whom he's had disagreement. Too often people dismiss others based on a single disagreement, which hinders exchange of information and slows the learning process. Credit to Thomas for being humble and thirsty for knowledge.
He never seems to listen to my comments. I paste the one I just made ------> I need to correct something. Few have said you need to decrease protein intake as get older, I have heard no expert say that. The question is how much do we increase it by, if at all. I would go with Longo who is a qualified professional full time (all his life) longevity researcher (not a GP etc who wrote a best selling book). The amounts of protein he recommends for bodyweight is way below what Peter A says. I quote Longo "If you are below the age of 65, keep protein intake low (0.31 to 0.36 grams per pound of body weight). That comes to 40 to 47 grams of proteins per day for a person weighing 130 pounds, and 60 to 70 grams of protein per day for someone weighing 200 to 220 pounds. Over age 65, you should slightly increase protein intake but also increase consumption of fish, eggs, white meat, and products derived from goats and sheep to preserve muscle mass. Consume beans, chickpeas, green peas, and other legumes as your main source of protein."
@@andrewnorris5415 most channels dont respond to comments, let alone get through all of them
@@cunnylicious My point was about him ignoring the leading specialist longevity researchers who are qualified and have studied it all their lives like Longo. He should have heard of them, and know their stance. In favor of others like GPs who have little relevant training but have best selling books by telling people what is trendy that they want to believe. Even so, when I made that comment I recall it was number 100. Now 9 hours up for this video and and 200 comments in total. In my experience most channels scan most comments to see if there is anything of interest. I have seen him reply to others comments by never mine... But still, that was not my point. Please listen to the point I made about the leading researchers vs best selling authors and vloggers.
@@andrewnorris5415
If you want to preserve muscle and strength, animal protein and plenty of it are best. However plant protein is better for cardiovascular health. Dr Peter Attia is not just a GP. GPs also vary greatly in knowledge and expertise. Respect
Thomas is merely a foolish influencer.
My theory about longevity in Monaco is most are very wealthy allowing them to live stress free and happy
agree
OR it's a concentration of extremenly wealthy people who can afford the best medical care in the world.
Definitely, but I’d be surprised if the vitamin D levels didn’t play a factor
Great point
Plus they can afford all the trendy supplements, such as B12 shots, there is next to no crime in Monaco (no murders to reduce average life span) and there are clinics that can provide organs bought from impoverished third world peasants...or their grieving relatives.
I am 65. I increased my protein intake by 50 gms. Wow it improved my sleep and overall well being and alertness
Bullshit
Looks like you triggered joe
What does your body do with the excess?
@@user-ij5ky4lr3x uric acid in urine
So can we call you tactical jerk? 😂
The key takeaways from Thomas DeLauer's discussion with 11 longevity scientists are:
1. **Increased Protein with Age**: Contrary to common belief, increasing protein intake as we age is beneficial for muscle protein synthesis and overall longevity.
2. **Importance of Muscle Mass**: Muscle mass plays a crucial role in preventing frailty and maintaining quality of life in older age, going beyond just physical appearance.
3. **Creatine Beyond Muscle Building**: Creatine is effective not only for muscle growth but also for reducing inflammation and enhancing recovery after workouts.
4. **Critical Role of Omega-3s**: A deficiency in Omega-3 fatty acids can be as harmful as smoking in terms of cardiovascular health, underscoring their importance in the diet.
5. **Longevity Insights from Monaco**: The high life expectancy in Monaco is attributed to factors like diet (especially olive oil's polyphenols), sunlight exposure, and vitamin D levels.
6. **Nutrient Quality Over Caloric Restriction**: Quality of nutrients might be more important than simply reducing calorie intake for longevity, as seen in studies with primates.
7. **Processed Food Consumption Concerns**: The high consumption of processed foods in the U.S. is linked to various health issues and challenges in controlling appetite.
8. **GABA Supplements and Brain Health**: GABA supplements may not be effective due to their inability to cross the blood-brain barrier, suggesting a need to focus on other substances for relaxation and recovery.
9. **Alcohol's Negative Impact on the Brain**: Alcohol consumption adversely affects various body systems, particularly the brain, impacting overall health.
10. **Peptides for Injury Recovery**: Certain peptides, like BPC157, can significantly aid in injury recovery by enhancing blood flow to the affected areas.
11. **Energy Flux in Fat Loss**: A higher energy flux (consuming and expending more energy) is more effective for fat loss compared to a lower energy flux (consuming and expending less energy).
Thanks for summarizing.
However, the title is clickbait - his views didn't change at all. It's the same as it's always been, or in other words, it's a summarizing of his past videos.
#4. I’ve changed my mind on omega 3. Jay Feldman in his energy balance podcast covers why omega 3 is isn’t good. Just another problematic polyunsaturated fat
@@annaku_slugaliciouslionkitty But still nice summary video.
@@kevinwalker7392 Does he explain then how the body cant use any other polyinsaturated fat in cellular structure?Or is he suggesting he is finding in research polyunsaturated fat replacing the DHA/ALA? Because for this opinion to be accurate, there will need to be histology to back it up. Im very interested if this is. the case, it will be a paradigm change for metabolic nutrition.
@@kevinwalker7392 And if you listen to Rhonda Patrick you learn the opposite. So what's true now?!
Let me paint you a picture of what you helped me with and through. First of all, I'm a 56 year old male. I had long covid for 3 years. I'm free of it now, but I still need to get double cataract surgery. I was 6'5" 280 lbs on June 1st, 2023, and I'm 240 lbs today, thanks to your expertise and videos. I'm stronger now before covid. I even sold my car and bought a gravel bike to force myself to get in even better shape. Thank you for your time and help.
Sounds like you might have had an injury from the shots ? Black seed oil, NAC, and activated charcoal are great for getting toxins out of your cells .. worth a look at detox protocols. A few out there but all very similar tbh. Effective.
Can you say more about what specifically helped you?
No doubt because you could not afford to drive your truck with Joe Biden in charge so you sold your truck bought some food and a bike
@vardaanbhat6780 Mostly my diet and calculations for exactly what I wanted to use for my new lifestyle. For instance, I only eat locally sourced food from farmers that I can trust. Most of my diet is fresh food 😋. But the supplements I chose to take were not only for the extreme tendon and ligament pain I had, but to accell my muscle mass growth that intern helped me burn more calories every day. Here are the supplements that I will keep. 1. NAC 2. Dr. Bergs D3 /K2 3. Dr. Bergs gallbladder formula (a must if you consume a lot of fat) 4. Tumeric 5. Equate vision formula 50+, 6. Bilberry, 7. HMB, 8. Nutricost Hits Vitamin B complex. 9. Alpha Brain 10. Vitamin C 1000 mg chewables.
The most important thing is my breakfast. 6 eggs cooked with citric acid from limes and lemon juice. You can always sprinkle in your creatine monohydrate( 11) and a little bit of cinnamon and ginger. A dash of jerk seasoning for flavor and an Equate meal replacement milkshake. 😋
Keep it cheap and simple.
What? Eggs cooked in lime? Are you boiling, frying? What?
Don't forget that Monaco is also the richest country in the world with no homelessness and certainly very good health care for its inhabitants.
I assume this video was for Americans that have never heard of Monaco. In Europe, you'd be laughed at for comparing Monaco to almost any country.
I really loved the way you compacted all the important information and different views into a single video. Other videos waste so much time by supplying a small piece of information in a single video where you have to search the whole thing and try to find it, or watch it all. So valubale. Thank you Thomas. Subscribed!
Happy, New year Thomas. This is such a great montage of wisdom and current thinking. Super appreciate it. Keep doing what you’re doing. Thank you!❤
Thank you, Thomas! I appreciate your open mind and your willingness to share all that you have learned and continue to learn!
Wow .... I LOOOVE the put together of this episode! Right to the point. A great remider and a much easier eay to gather the most essential updated pices of information from top expert.
Thank you Thomas for your humility and hard work! ... I am yet to find a worthy competitor to you. Your the Best!
Great video. A lot of great experts and info all in one place. Well presented, well produced, great job and thank you.
Such a great channel. Thanks for the great work Thomas.
9:30 might help to know that Monaco ist the richest country in the world regarding gdp per capita (nominal, top3 in ppp) and has 36k inhabantants on less than 2 km²(1mi²), the highest population density among all sovereign countries. So there's no space to grow any olive trees. They're simply rich and can afford the best health care and nutrition.
This is a great place to set the stage for further inquiry for my interested patients. Thanks for this.
Great video. I really liked how the video was structured and how he moved from point to point with his guests. Really great information. Thanks 🙏
Phenomenal video Thomas! Nothing buy, concise and relevant information across the spectrum. I can truly appreciate your willingness and ability to pursue and continue conversations and collabs, with other experts that you may not completely agree with.
Maybe your best (most informative) video yet. Really good work. Thank you
This was really helpful! I appreciate the time you took to put this together.
Loved this synthesis of top experts! Would love to see more of this! Thanks 😊
yes, that would be good!
Love your channel! It is amazing to really dive into the science of nutrition and exercise. Keep up the great work! I assure you it is helping alot of people such as myself.
Thomas, thank you, great summary. Appreciate your work.
Thank you I love learning and keeping up to date on the latest research even if I have to change.
This was an amazing show!! thank you for sharing!!!
thomas, i always learn from your videos but you’ve outdone yourself with this one. please do more of these compilations.
THANK YOU …. I have listened to every guest you featured and subscribe to half of them. Each of them are bright minded knowledgeable professionals and have so much to offer. I think it is most important to be the captain of your own health because we know our bodies best, and to utilize the information of selfless docs like these to help us figure out what works best and what doesn’t for us to stay healthy and strong. Thanks so much for this video. Exceptional⭐️⭐️⭐️
I really appreciate your summary. Thank you for your content.
I have neighbor, he passed away few years ago, like very old man. Some 5 years before his death he was ill and very weak, so everyone was thinking that he is not going to live much longer, that state was for couple of months, than he started taking whey with his grandson, and started to walk little bit more and more. I donr know is it from whey protein powder, but he recovers and live nice for 5 years more
ne seri, pio je rakiju
@@marcjov8149 u to ne sumnjam 🤣🤣
DUDE! Awesome video Thomas! You have been on fire of on a Longevity roll. I instantly clicked because rad video title n thumbnail, + a lot of views.
One of your best videos of all time. I think the last year there’s been some amazing science and people like you sharing there research. It’s quite amazing.
What a great topic to put together and condense for us. Definitely earned my sub!
Such a great video. We have to keep our minds open to new possibilities! Nice one sir!!!
Thank you Thomas, you always provide excellent information ... and the way you deliver it is equally excellent!! You're the sweetest!!excellent
I really love this recap content!!!!! Keep it coming.
I have watched many many videos of yours and of the people that you have interviewed. I have a job I can listen to podcasts and work in and average 4-5 hours of health and financial podcasts in a day. I’ve lost over 70 lbs over the last year a half and have been doing the podcasts for about that long too. Size 44 pants down to a 34 currently. I have developed a insane curiosity of how my body works and wanted to say I loved this video. I have actually seen a few of the videos and people referenced and really appreciate you sharing the golden nuggets of your year. Thank you for your work and I hope some day I can be jacked like you are. Keep up the good work.
thank you 🙏 for this continuing education👍
Great overview of all those fantastic videos Thanks Thomas👍
Great format, great info!!
Related to processed foods, it seems to me that smoothies, regardless of contents, bypass the beginning of digestion in the mouth. So it seems healthier to eat food that starts with chewing.
Wow. This is an awesome compilation.
Lmnt is great! I love it! I take it everyday before the gym!
Thanks for sharing this vital information. Sharing post immediately
Good set. Thank you!
Your compilation of all these topic experts was wonderful
This is a superb video! Gets straight to the points.👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
This is so good. So much information. ❤
Wow Great collab. This was fascinating! ⭐️👏🏻
Great format! Very entertaining and interesting
I appreciate your openness, and ability to keep learning....I still feel everything has a season or rhythm. Diet movement sleep... Everything
Good job Thomas. Thank you!
Sending healing thoughts and positive energy your way.
This was power packed Thomas!!
This is excellent, Thomas. Thank you.
What an amazing video. Thank you!
Thanks for sharing!
great work, as usual!!
This was great information! Thanks!!!!
Dr. Lyon and your community are on to the answer. Thankful for you and all the research and work she and people like you have put in.
Fantastic info Thomas! Thanks!
This is your best video in a while. Thank you 👊🏻💥👊🏻
Motivation means nothing. You are what you eat and think all day long. You are your habits. Let's go
Yup I literally just ran an experiment where I went from completely clean eating meat and eggs to adding just 1000 cal of processed snack foods, and one fast food meal every 2-3 days. I gained 7.9kg/17.4lbs in just 8 weeks. Plus my inflammation got so bad the skin on my finger started cracking. Filmed and documented what went on.
@@TheToplessChef-hf5eb "Completely clean eating meat and eggs", LOL. Meat is neither clean nor healthy. Red meat is even a known carcinogen, and eggs are known to be worse than red meat.
Shut up
Lol no
So you are motivated or else you wouldn't follow your habits. I think a lot of people misunderstand what motivation actually is. It's not a feeling. It's a drive. A pull. And you may hate doing something, it may feel horrible but you will still feel pulled by it because you think it's important. That is motivation. Without it you wouldn't do anything. So when it comes to things that you know are good for you but you still don't do them then the problem is not a lack of motivation but the fact that you are suppressing your motivation! You wouldn't feel bad if you didn't feel motivated to do it. The fact that you suppress it makes you feel horrible about it, not the anticipation of the act itself.
Tom im your big fan 🙏🥰 from India. Thank u for all u do.
Very nice piece, Thomas. Thank you.
Great content-- top longevity influences always. I heard Gaba doesn't work, but I've seen it work.
Good rap up for the year and New year thinking!
Thank you for slowing down your speech in your presentations! ❤
This is like the appetizer sampler of your content. It's well edited.
This is like the answer key to the test! Thanks for your hard work. Danny
I love the perspective(love that theme) that you're underscoring here. I have a saying...."Don't be afraid to call tomorrow a lie what you believe to be true today".
Good video. Thanks.
Just an anecdotal story, but my grandmother is by far the healthiest elderly person I’ve ever met and she does not eat this much protein. She eats fairly vegetarian…not by design, but because she says that’s what she prefers and is more drawn to. She’s 84, walks for an hour a day on a trail outside, travels internationally alone, walks a half marathon every year, is always doing projects around the house, and generally does whatever she wants. She lives like a very healthy person in their 60s would. Could be those longevity genes, who knows!
Her activity 😊
This was fascinating. In lots of ways. Gotta love open mindedness and intelligent informed discussion.
One of the best summary videos I’ve heard in a while.
Excellent video Thomas. I really really respect you for your approach to how you reflected on the willingness to listen to opposing views or openeness to learn from others. This takes being humble, lower ones ego and a teachable mindset. You are a master in this space because of this. What if more people listened more to people with opposing views vs screaming at each other and closing off the mind to learning from each other. How different this country would be. Starting in Washington DC all the way to your neighbors. Legendary video.
excellant video Thomas
Great video! I love this kind of just the high points videos.
Absolutely great channel!
Thank u ❤ great content!!!!😊
Outstanding, sir! 🔥👍
(5:07) Any doctor who wears a Def Leppard t-shirt automatically gains credibility in my eyes 😉
🎶 'Pour some Stevia on meee' 🎶
@@cbook7096 LOL! Good one.
And arms with tattoos
You always make great videos but this one is superb.
Saladino's point resonates with me well. I spend 3 months of my year in Armenia eating farm food and homemade stuff. If you witnessed the amount I eat you wouldn't believe it. Blocks and blocks of homemade cheese, insane amounts of bbq, and fruits to a point I drop. With all that nonstop eating I actually lose weight, compared to the US where I can't seam to eat or digest anything. I fast more than I eat and if I eat more than a small meal a day, I gain weight. I do not exercise when traveling, and I do exercise when in US. Calories are irrelevant, it's all about what you're eating.
You should live there. You would be better off.
@@blobmonster9494 Food wise, I would be, but when the bombs drop, it's not fun.
@NanulSavage This is so true. The Food & Dairy I had in my ancestral country side and villages in India literally makes my belly go flat. I couldn't believe it!
Very good production from two health advocates!!🙏🏻
Thanks, bro
Great video and most of my favorite people on the video .
The discussion on GABA was enlightening. I would like to know how to increase my GABA level . I have tried the Hubberman advice on sleep taking GABA and Glycine . It seems to help .
Thomas thanks again for all the good information.
GABBA supplements do not cross the blood brain barrier.
I have heard this before and is it because the molecules are too big or no transport mechanism available for the transport?
I have felt no visible results from taking it .
I’m trying it for sleep and a slight essential tremor that I have developed over the drugs from knee shoulder and hand surgeries that I had.
No proof to back that claim up. Any suggestions for the tremors ? My sleep is always been short and I still feel ok and productive.
I shared this video with my parents and friends in their 70s and a few are going to ramp up their cardio, strength training, and protein
Thank you for all your informative content. I learned from you that cooling your oatmeal before eating it makes it a probiotic. What about overnight oats? Can you also explain what heated and cooling mean? What are the temps?
If the true problem is not understood then a solution cannot be found. Once again, the focus is only on the physical when the real issue is not physical health but rather Emotional Health (not mental health). Even Attia's book and final chapter states "Emotional Health (i.e. relationships) trumps everything else". The Blue Zone research states "more than 50% of the longevity equation is your relationships and connections". We cannot continue to try and solve humanity's emotional problems with physical solutions. This is one of the greatest oversights of modern medicine.
Years ago, everyone KNEW the world was flat. ALL the "experts" said so. It turns out, they were ALL wrong. It's time for a paradigm shift for humanity's sake.
This is by far one of your best videos.
Thank you Thomas
Dr. Rhonda Patrick's podcast is awesome. A recent one about the best actions to take to increase health and longevity was a good summary of years of research she has been discussing.
Thomas, as usual, your content, especially this one, has given me additional insight about my body and what works best for me. I’m 68years young and looking forward to incorporating some of the info I was not aware of in my regimen.
I have but ☝🏽issue with you and that is that you click baited me by posting Dr. David Sinclair in your group photo. What happened? His knowledge on anti-aging would’ve put the cherry on top of this almost excellent video. I think you owe him some airtime as well as those of us that expected to hear from him as part of this great video that was ALMOST perfect.
Absolutely love your presentations. They give food for thought.
It’s not necessary to agree with everything the “experts“ say. They, like us, give their interpretation of the scientific studies that aim to get more information to understand what is happening to us given certain conditions. Absolutely none of these studies can be all-inclusive. Many cannot be performed on humans without moral concerns. We can only determine for ourselves, what “makes sense”. These experts provide that and you present them to us. Thank you!
Dr Gundry has done so much for me, lectins really were my enemy. The bloating, depression, brain fog has gone.
Bravo, Thomas!! This needs to go into your "Best of" file. I'm going to look up Kyle Gillet and BPC 157 peptides. I studied proteolytic peptides and have run two courses, the first brand: Transformation, 3 times a day for 22 days. Result: No difference in my recovery from gym workouts. Course 2: HCP-Fibrenza, 3 times a day for 23 days. Result: No difference in my recoveries from gym workouts. Nevertheless, I will try the BPC 157.
I have Paralysis by analysis watching everyone’s opinions on food/diet
The same...
Thomas is amazing. I truly respect his willingness to open up and not just stay in the keto niche. He is a lifelong learner.
great work!