Review of the Monadnock Autolock Expandable Baton
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
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Great review. I just bought a Monadnock autolock X3 and it's a nice piece of equipment, top of the notch really. Just had some issues with the locking mechanism but solved that easily with some drops of BreakFree inside the bearings and end cap.
+Sinval Pereira Thank you very much; I appreciate the compliment! The X3 is pretty bad-ass. I got to "play" with it a few months ago. Keeping these guys lubed up is crucial and many people overlook the maintenance aspect. Thank you for sharing and please keep on doing so! -Hg
Coach Helder -Reviews that's why the ASP is so popular. lazy people never want to maintenence their stuff.
I work in the UK prison service, we get issued these as standard kit. The fact they lock is great so it won’t collapse on itself if me and my team ever lost the unit due to riots
Thanks for sharing your experience with us, Oliver.
Be safe! 🍻
-Hg
sweet bracelet bro, never know when you might need 10 feet of para cord in your backyard
I completely agree.. That is why my bracelet contains 15' of paracord instead of 10'. ;-)
Thanks for commenting & sharing your opinion. Sarcasm is always welcomed & even appreciated. -Hg
As a note;
The Plastic "Power tip" prevents breaking auto glass. The plastic does not allow you to break car side windows to aid trapped passengers after a crash.
The older Steel tips would break out the windows in one or two hits.
Good info, thank you for sharing it with us! -Hg
Most people I've talked to about this just hold the baton backwards when breaking auto glass. You'll hit harder that way at well.
You're meant to flip it around and use the metal base. MUCH more effective than the other way.
Not big deal, just unscrew that power tip and get a steel bolt with the size and thread and there you go, the perfect tip to break windows and faces
You can use the batons soft holster to close it if you don't have the ez close button
5:30... best part of the video... that was funny... Monadnock Baton's rock ! ! ! Awesome video
Thank you George,
I appreciate the feedback and your support!
-Hg
I was given 2 to instruct at my facility, and they both broke, one the first time I opened it. It wouldn't close, or one section would close, but not both. Yes, I know about the button. It went back to the manufacturer, and the replacement isn't fully reliable and only closes sometimes. Now the other one is locked open and won't close. We're supposed to get 600+ of these for just our facility out of a 20,000 baton purchase. We have to be the biggest purchaser for this company. I hope we have a better than 50% success rate.
Thanks for the info, snowhack. I've had this baton for over 10 years and made this video over 6 years ago. I guess they changed things up for the worse which is very shitty to hear.
Be safe out there.
-Hg
Nice review and demonstration. I found your channel from Joseph Pettus. I'm enjoying your videos. They're very informative as Joseph said.
Thank you, Monty!
I really appreciate you taking the time to share the kind words and for your support.
I always appreciate Joseph's effort as well.
Welcome & please stay in touch!
Thanks again,
-Hg
I've got 4 expandable batons. Monodnock autolock II is definitely superior in every way.
Thanks for sharing, adv.ventures!
-Hg
i would say in this day and age the NEX quick baton is the best baton, along with bonowi. i think monadnock and talon and such are so narrow "pipes" like a toothpick, the batons .NEX push button system is way supperior than others too.
regards from sweden, where you can not use baton for self defense and carry in public is a nono....
Thanks for the review - looks like you have done some Kali, Escrima, or Arnis - I noticed what looked like the "c-hand" with your left hand.
Thanks Michael, I appreciate your support!
-Hg
I started working security in October of 2016. 6 months later I got my certification for baton carrying. It's been 5 years and I am still in security and I still carry the exact same model of Modanock.
Your video was one of the very first I ever saw on this baton.
Over the past 5 years my baton has gotten a ton of use, however none of it was for defense or breaking windows. It's all been for moveing shit I dont wanna touch such as random articles of clothing and snakes.
Do I regret my purchase of this over priced baton? (I say over priced because I've never had to really use it, haha), nope, not one bit.
Thanks man!
EDIT: I forgot to mention that the first baton you demonstrated strikes with was actually my exact same first baton. I gave it away, haha.
Outstanding!
Thank you very much for sharing your story, Brian.
Stay safe, my friend! 🍻
-Hg
@@CoachHelder I can't believe you responded! Thank you!
It's the least that I could do, Brian.
Thank you for your continued, support!
-Hg
Thank you for such a clear understanding of the benefits of this baton. While your editorializing about how the police are suffering unwarranted accuations is your perogative (but should not be included in a product review), no one is 100% perfect or correct in everything he or she does. We're seeing crimminality committed by some in uniform, with incontrovertible proof showing the have broken the law. At least ackowledge facts. It happens and the guilty must be held accountable, whoever they are.
Hello Anne, first off... Thank you for the feedback on the review.
I spend a lot of time training and working with law enforcement; globally. This review was intended more for them than the average citizen due to laws and restrictions.
So please keep in mind, that I was speaking to them and others in liable security positions such as myself.
Now... Do we see officers in uniform that are not worth one thread of the patch that they wear on their uniform? Absolutely! Should they be held accountable? Absolutely; They are scum to me!
The unfortunate situation is that these "Pieces Of Sh&T" POS" are the minority; at least in my experience.
So I do acknowledge facts; but... I was not speaking to that minority demographic.
Thank you for taking the time to comment and share your opinion. Trust me, your opinion is not far apart from mine at all.
-Hg
Sometimes that’s true but 90% of the time it’s just stupid liberals who want to get rid of police altogether
Monadnock's parent company is Safariland
Thank you.
-Hg
I walk 5k outside everyday. I am thinking of getting the 18". But I will just be using it to crack walnuts on my walk.
Walnuts offer lots of nutrients. 😉
-Hg
I have one of these. Excellent quality, smooth lightning fast extension. Ideal size for simple arm takedowns, and packs a positively brutal strike. I was hesitant to drop $100 on it, but when I received it, was ecstatic over the quality. *USA made* This ain't the thirty dollar Taiwan or Chinese junk. If you're looking to purchase the best, you just found it.
Thank you for sharing your info. I Definitely agree! Have a great day & thanks again for taking the time.. -Hg
Coach Helder
you are very welcome. It was my pleasure. enjoy your Thanksgiving!
Thanks again and Happy Thanksgiving! Stay in Touch & Be Safe Out There! -Hg
so,what is the material of this baton,what kind of steel
This is the info from the manufacturer.. I hope that it helps.
The AutoLock's1/2 strength comes from its hardened aircraft 4130 seamless alloy steel tubingBaton steel has a 48-54 Rockwell C Scale Hardness and has a tensile strength up to 290,000 pounds per square inch
-Hg
Would carrying a bigger, less tip-soft version of these (still decent quality, from Euro Security Products) be better than a smaller one if I don't own a firearm?
Hello Nema Nema, your question is very particular and difficult to answer on here; especially without me knowing your training level.
My advice is that whichever tool that you choose to use for self-defense... Be sure to practice often with it and with precision. If you are new to this topic, I certainly recommend that you seek out a good teacher in order for you to hone in the basics. From there, it's all about personal practice.
I hope that helps & Be Safe.
-Hg
great review. thanks!
Thank you ZoneHunter, I appreciate your support!
-Hg
The trauma inflicted by impacting with the tubular part of the baton greatly outweighs the minor cuts from a roughened metal tip. I am not convinced about this liability issue of using metal tip.
The tip gets rough with usage and can cut suspects with causes the real liability. Police Officers are supposed to only use the force necessary. If they are just using a baton lacerations are not necessary
Great video! I always thought the Autolock was a great idea, can be opened discreetly too. This may sound like a stupid question (I'm not very clued up!), but to oil the Autolock, (obviously you have to remove the end cap), are you supposed to do so with the baton opened or closed? I've heard conflicting advice on this. Some people say that you must extend the baton before unscrewing the end cap or the baton won't open again after, others claim that you should only unscrew it with the baton closed as it will get stuck permanently open if you remove the end cap whilst the baton is open. Don't know what to believe! Any chance you could perhaps do a maintainance video to iron out myths on this matter? Many thanks.
Thanks for the idea, Steve. This channel is focused on reviews but I will definitely consider doing a maintenance video on my other channels and blog: CoachHelder.com.
Every baton's mechanism is a bit different. I always suggest following the manufacturers maintenance protocols for each baton make and model.
Thank you for the advice and for the support!
-Hg
We use these batons in my prison and all over North Carolina.
Thanks for sharing, Mike!
-Hg
How strong is it ?
Not sure if you'll see this, but I just ordered one of these, and I have a few questions about the striking tip. When you unscrew the safety tip, is there a standard tip underneath? Also, if I were to change the tip, would an ASP brand one work? I can't find any made by Monadnock.
Hello Stench,
To be honest, I do not have the answers that you are looking for. You would be better off contacting the manufacturer(s) in order to get an accurate answer.
Sorry & Good Luck.
-Hg
Hi there amigo. Yes, you can unscrew that tip, when you unscrew that tip there is just the threaded hole, you could try another tip, i just put a bolt on it, i like the fact that i can break windows with the sharp edges of that bolt
I have one don't know what it was
You don't know the brand?
It looks like he needs to snap it open.
Is it strong spring driven? I want a hard spring
Hi, never used a baton but looking to buy one, is this a positively good product self for defence, do hits from it inflict a good amount of damage, or should i go with a taser?
Hello Aditya, my advice is to carry whatever you are most proficient in. If you find a good teacher and learn to wield a baton effectively, than it will certainly be able to inflict a fair amount of damage to any "bad guy."
The same advice goes for a taser or any tool that you choose to carry for self defense.
Practice, Practice, Practice and make it an extension of your body.
Also, play close attention to the laws in the area's that you choose to carry. What may be OK in one area, will be completely different when you cross a border.
I hope that helps.
-Hg
@@CoachHelder thanks alot, I'm going to go with this baton, considering that tasers arent exactly legal from where i come, will take into consideration your advice about using batons. thanks alot, and cheers from India.
I'm glad that I could help.
Cheers, my friend!
-Hg
is the tip replaceable or interchangeable with one more suited to breaking glass?
Yes, the tip is interchangeable and there are various options that you can chose from.
I hope that helps. -Hg
I've got autolock with wedge cap and power safety tip. I could not find a video or article on how to change/ remove the power safety tip. Help please!
The first baton you used that started to rattle. Like that then it isn't properly deployed. I've owned that same baton I've had it for years. Not just that model but any friction lock like smith n Wesson asp or modnck or any other quality brand. If it rattle after a few swings trust me it isn't properly deployed
After I bought mine and notice the rattle, I called the company and they said it is part of the design to guarantee to always open and close. After a couple weeks of using it, I got used to it and I love it now. But, yes it is supposed to be that way.
Nice.
Thank you!
-Hg
Where I can buy this????
Hello Venom, I'm not sure if they make this model anymore. I have links to my blog post in the description. Hopefully the purchase links have been updated my Monadnock.
-Hg
I'm from philippines 🙁and I really like your baton because it's autolock I want it🙁I need it
Mine is stuck in and it won’t come out... help?
Oil it up and tap it on the side with a rubber mallet while pressing and releasing the button. See if that works.
-Hg
If you don't want criticism you think is unfair, back some fucking reforms.
Does the monadnock rattle bad once fully extended?
It does not, Thomas.
I hope that helps.
-Hg
Coach Helder ah, mines rattles when extended! i think it may have a deficiency then 😡
Hello Thomas, the cheaper batons that I have used in the past, definitely rattled. But with a Monadnock like this one... It certainly shouldn't rattle. Let me know how it goes and good luck!
-Hg
@@CoachHelder but yours was rattling extremely loudly every time you shook it, why lie? Were you getting paid for this and can't say anything bad about it?
Yes all my button lock Monadnock buttons rattle. They are not held together by friction so this is not really an issue. I have one of Monadnocks Friction locks it doesn't rattle but barely any friction locks do due to the design. I also have some ESP (Euro Security Products not to be confused with ASP) batons. They make a button lock very similar to the Monadnock and even though it is higher quality it still rattles being a button lock. The nice part about button locks is that you don't have to swing it to extend it, so if in a crowded area no worry about injuring a bystander you can simple pull it open with you hands also you can close it easily without a hard surface.
where can I get one?
It's been a while since I bought mine, Sara. I do have a link to the new version of the baton in my blog post:
coachhelder.com/review-monadnock-autolock-expandable-baton/
I hope that helps. Happy New Year!
-Hg
Nice review. Damn, dude...clean your pool.
Thanks John, I appreciate the feedback.
It was mid-march in NJ. I had just moved in, previous owner never covered it up. Plus, It's Jersey man... All of our water looks like that. ;-)
-Hg
You do it.
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Is this a good tool against aggressive dogs?
I would say that would be a horrible application for this tool. But... It is ideal to use against the human or humans that made the dog that way.
-Hg
@@CoachHelder I meant hungry feral dogs. Due to nature of my job, I travel often to third world, which has a lot of these and they can be very mean and territorial.
That's definitely a scary situation, Groveish; thanks for clearing that up.
But keep in mind that if these dogs are aggressive, you will have to wield that baton quite well in order to get yourself out of the situation.
It could make the situation worse, especially if these wild dogs are in a pack.
I would definitely opt for another option such as good pepper spray. It has worked quite well for mail carriers over the years.
I would not doubt that these dogs are most-likely, starving. Carrying some dog treats that you can throw to one side and get yourself to safety it also an option. Sounds a bit ridiculous, but I have seen it work more than once while I was in the middle-east.
I hope that helps and safe travels, my friend!
-Hg
Is this better then bonowi
Hello Murdv, I have no experience with the Bonowi brand so I cannot give any advice.
Sorry about that.
-Hg
Coach Helder cool thanks for reply.
If you know anyone at Bonowi, have them send me one for testing. ;-)
Have a great weekend, my friend.
-Hg
No, bonowi batons are much more robust. They even make screw on hammer, axe &, bolt cutter heads to turn them into door breaching tools
They cost a LOT money than monadnock & ASPs though
How much fella ?
Prices fluctuate often but you can check the blog post in the description, it should have updated pricing.
I hope that helps.
-Hg
One sided review, only one strike from the Monadnock baton? Seems more like a cheap commercial for Monadnock. For many years I have used Monadnock, ASP, and Casco and I would love to see a real review base on quality and reliability no just price or the cool factor base on Police choices.
Thanks for sharing your opinion with us. -Hg
So before I just assume I’ll ask. What do you think when you see videos of Cops killing unarmed civilians and non armed struggling suspects. Or beating them with batons and boot stomping them in groups when they are handcuffed. UA-cam has a 30 minute video of clips of police doing stuff like that over the course of one year. Each clip is roughly 10-30 seconds long. That’s a lot of Police Brutality. Also what exactly do you think a Police Officers job is?
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I think a lot of tough dudes would not be slowed down by something as silly as that.
Graham Wellington there is a video of a NYPD cop rapping a guy who's on the ground in his leg and breaking it, dangling.
These are no joke.