Khaine - Punching Bag God of War
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Khaine. The best God of War in the setting, who unfortunately nobody views as such. Hopefully I can change your mind a bit.
0:00 - Intro
1:06 - WarThunder Sponsorship
2:53 - 40k Lore
21:36 - Fantasy Lore
32:58 - Age of Sigmar Lore
34:56 - Do or Don't - Khaine
40:58 - Conclusion
41:45 - Please GW I Beg of You
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So when are we getting a video leaking classified documents about the Leman Russ.
Huh, could've sworn that a Commissar that's an Old Man also attempted to cover this in a vox-cast before promptly being hijacked by a Farseer named... Insulattio?
I am having a good day, and of course you have made it better. Thank you for asking! I hope you are having a good day as well.
I wish you a good day to
At 1:11 I genuinely thought you were about to give a shout out to Wargasm, but Warthunder’s cool too I guess...
You’re not a true Space Marine unless you’ve killed an Avatar of Khaine before lunchtime
Really? I thought it was part of the training for scouts for the main chapters
That checks out
isint that a trial to be accepted into a space marine chapter?
Overused joke
Dawn of War Soulstorm made me appreciate them. Pretty much the entire Eldar Strategy is "Avatar of Khaine".
“Khaine shattered the Nightbringer”
Eldar fans: “Nice.”
Necron fans: “Nice.”
Everyone liked that
Damn not even the Necrons like the nightbringer?
@@crimsondynamo615 do you think the necrons like any c'tan?
@@crimsondynamo615 The Necrons aren't huge fans of the C'tan in general, but the night bringer are among the worst of the bunch (the Flayer being another one they hate extra much). The Nighbringer was such a massive bastard it not only was part of making the Necrons into Necrons before gorging itself fat on Necron souls, but it got so fucked up it started to also eat other C'tan, which should tell you not only how much of an asshole it was but also how powerful it was.
The Nightbringer was also known as "the living god of suffering and dispair" and took great delight in torturing any and all it could get its hands on. It was such a cruel and vile creature that it as 40k's reason why almost every civilized race in the galaxy has a version of the grim reaper. Its mere presence made necromancy just happen. It is theorised (never confirmed and never let the Necron players tell you otherwise) that Khain killing it sent out a psychic wave powerful enough to induce "the fear of death" in all living creatures in the galaxy at the time, meaning that if that is true it is responsible for all inteligent life in the galaxy to value life and fear death to the degree they do.
So yeah, the not even the Necrons like the Nightbringer. *Especially* not the Necrons.
@@crimsondynamo615The lowliest janitor robots have higher social standing in the dynasties than the highest ranking gods. That should tell you what the Necron opinion of the C'tan is.
As an Imperium of Man fanboy even I can say the Bloody Handed God of War got done straight up dirty in 40k. Pretty much exists to show how strong someone else is…..
An Avatar of Khaine, a Bloodthirster, a C'tan Shard, and the Swarmlord walk into a bar...
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 They all get gunned down by a squad of named space marines, and Guilliman is there too
Just like every other xenos and non space marine faction..
@aprinnyonbreak1290 woah, lets give some credit, the swarmlord at least has a positive win-loss ratio
He's been warfed
Im both shocked and not shocked pancreas hasn't heard of this, but there's an old 40k novel called shadowpoint(I think) that involves an Avatar. It's a battle fleet gothic novel which involves the imperium teaming up with craftworlders against chaos and the drukhari they hired to help them.
The Avatar wakes up, on his own, and then jumps around planets and stuff using the webway, and on the way gets this awesome bit about how he lands on a speed freaks planet and just leaves a trail of slag metal and ork corpses behind him. There's lots of bits about him traveling to the planet where the climax of the story takes place, wiping everything in his path out before hand, during which the craftworld he's from is FREAKING THEIR SHIT. eventually, he ends up on the Climax Planet™ at the end of book, and when the Druhkari Archon is about to finish off the Eldar farseer that allied with the imperium, the Avatar shows up, grabs the Deldar by the neck, lifts him up, and reduces him to ash, before staring the farseer down and vanishing, essentially cucking Abaddon and the Deldar at the same time by fucking their plans over.
Very cool story. He's not really a warrior in this, more treated like a force of nature that one one really fully understands or can stand against. But there's also no loyalist Marines or Tyranids in this story so that's probably why.
I need more of this depiction.
That sounds dope as hell, treating the Avatar like this berserk force of nature.
This Rare Caine W is so big the chaos fleet could see if from orbit
That was a good book and a good series
oh glad someone else mentioned it, that series of books seriously fucks and it's a real shame we don't get more naval stuff in general.
I absolutely loved the Khaine showing up in Ciaphas Cain. When the Eldar are chanting "Khaine! Khaine! Khaine!" And Ciaphas is just baffled
Which book was that?
Oh they actually did that joke? Nice
I know he shows up in Know your Enemies, I don't know if he means that one
Eldar: So kinky even their God-Statues are weak to choking.
...You... I like you. You make me laugh, funny man.
Considering Khaine himself is a god of murder, it's not that strange that the avatars of him are so good at getting murdered.
Well, when you put it like that any character that kills an avatar of Khaine is actually their most pious worshiper.
@@aionval2734sounds like whoever kills him is a heretical knife-ear lover
He's a dead God of murder too. His avatars perfectly embody living and dying by the sword
- Eldar gonna shatter khaine
- Slanesh happens
- Khaine gets shattered
Yup prophecy checks out
Gotta love those self fulfilling prophecies
Reminder that Ciaphas Cain is such an impactful commissar that his mere presence alone inspired an Avatar of Khaine to successfully pulverize and eradicate a greater demon of Slaanesh.
It was either that or getting decked as a punishement for cowardice.
Even an Avatar of Khaine gets carried from being a failure to MVP with solid motivation from the Hero of Imperium himself.
Love me space marines but if Lorgar, the physically weakest primarch, being able to manhandle the eldar god of war without breaking a sweat isn’t favoritism at its most revolting peak then I don’t know what is
if favoritism didn't drive 40k the imperium would be broken more than it is and necrons and tyrinids and orks would be the only factions left seeing as how much more overwhelming they are in power than any faction
Unfortunately the blue boys have too much plot armor for it to matter
To my understanding he nearly died and it cost him a lot of effort to do so.
@@bluhd2265and it was a rotten, half dead version of an avatar.
Its like Calgar won through using coordinated attacks with his troops and still got messed up.
Folks leave some of the details out.
@@theslayer1197good...fck them damn humans 😂😂
Can't wait for khaine's next model overhaul where he has 2 arm casts, 2 leg casts and a wheelchair
Khaine but he's played by Wheelchair Sam
Missed the obvious joke of having him use a cane instead of a wheelchair
@@aprinnyonbreak1290Wheelchair Sam sent me reeling, lmfao.
Presenting from the makers of Failbaddon the Armless: Khaine the Lame!
Truly, there is no more certified "Khaine the bloody handed god moment" than that one time "Supreme femboy" Fulgrim choked out one of his avatars.
One of his fiery, magma skinned, iron avatars.
As an eldar play yes
Fulgrim was less "femboy" and more "Sephiroth". The guy devoted himself to the idea of being perfect in all aspects of life, including combat. Don't forget that he also duelled and won in single combat against another Primarch.
RIP Ferrus Manus 😢
That sounds as a unlikely an event as an ork choking the Emperor.
@@arionofotherworldSadly, it did happen.
@@TheMTSilver Ok but this has the same energy as choking out a C'tan shard or a Wraithknight. The lore doesn't explicitly say it's impossible if you're badass enough but for the purposes of common sense it's daft. Daemons are warp stuff but they generally correspond to the humanoid form with the associated rules when materialised so it at least makes some sense that characters like Jaghatai can injure them by strangling one. The avatar as established above is a construct of magma and iron which really shouldn't need to breathe any more than Eldar wraith constructs do. It's not impossible to accept that Fulgrim won against an avatar because as established, it's not a huge feat in 40k. The ridiculous part is the manner in which he won. Beheading it or ripping out something internal would be fairly logical within the bounds of 40k (even though it is a creature of lava I present the argument of Ferrus who melted a Necron construct in lava without any lasting negative issues). Choking out an avatar, unless reasoning as to how this would work is provided, is just nonsensical regardless of who is doing it.
Khaine is basically just Ares in greek mythology but in 40k; he's a god war, blood and murder, he's a patron of soilders and he gets clownd on by everyone
Poor Ares.
Ares: God of war
Athena: God of winning wars
That's because the Athenians worshiped Athena and didn't like Ares.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290the two Greek gods of War are really indicative of who you were as a part of the army, Athena was for leaders who needed strategy, Ares is for the soldiers that need to endure combat with strength
@@kabob0077 I never liked Athena, I always thought she was annoying
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 unless Ares is in Italy then he suddenly gets plus 100 to all his stats
The reason why the avatar of Khain was able to win in Ciaphus Cain's book is that the gods of 12th dimensional bull shiterty mixed up Khain and Cain so the avatar got the auto win.
> gods of 12th dimensional bull shiterty
You could just say "Tzeentch" you know lmao
@@CollinBuckmanBut the funni
@@CollinBuckman no, tzeentch is 9th level, only beings like Mat Ward are 12th.
@@Mr._Galaxywideno wonder he's that powerful.
Which book was this?
I love Avatar of Khaine on the tabletop not only because of how powerful he is, but because people not in the know are in for a shock when facing him.
Assuming he ain't shit because he jobs for random Space Marines in the fluff quickly becomes "Why did that orange thing solo half my army?" when one makes the fatal mistake of underestimating a shard of a war god.
I don’t know about that, I’ve only encountered one avatar of khaine on the table top, I throw my nightbringer at him and he died turn 2.
@@user-sg7pb8eo1d You needed to use your own god to defeat an AoK & you still don't see them as much of a threat?
@@gingermcgingin4106 maybe, but when he does play with the big boys he seems to always get cooked. At least with the games I’ve played.
Avatar of Khaine: able to destroy multiple enermies and is the greatest weapon the Eldar can deploys.
Also Avatar of Khaine upon seeing a Space Marine without helmet: Guess I will die.
0:52 "You have a god whose only not called a clown, because the Eldar already have one of those" yeah thats about right for 40k honestly, don't worry i'm fake laughing the tears are real.
It really is a 40k moment when a clown god is doing a better job protecting Eldar then their god of war
To be fair, the clowns are built different
@@BacktoBack_Daishōbuilt like an almost untouchable space elf who does REALLY cool plays and murders daemons.
wait a minute....
Just wanted to say that the ritual of awakening the Avatar - the sacrifice of the Young King - basically involves an Exarch dressing up like Eldanesh, going into the throne room of the Avatar, and recreating the moment when Eldanesh turns down Khaine's offer of great power in exchange for singular worship of him. The Exarch recites aloud the part where Eldanesh basically tells Khaine to go fuck himself, and the memory of that event stings Khaine's ego enough that his spirit reanimates the iron body of the Avatar and he murders the Exarch, reliving the moment when he murdered Eldanesh for disrespecting him.
With the ritual over with, the Avatar storms out of the chamber, and the Eldar follow him. One assumes the Avatar just knows who the enemy of the day is (maybe he absorbed that knowledge by absorbing the Young King's soul?), and - being the god of war - he just gets down to business. He knows the drill by now; wake up, kill stuff, go back to sleep.
Because the Exarch is theatrically playing the part of Eldanesh (a dude), the title given to the one portraying him is always "The Young King", irrespective of sex of the Exarch.
So, one makes a shard of an Eldar God get off it's duff by offending it's ego?
That checks.
I came to realise that The Avatar is basically the reverse custodes. He’s insane on the tabletop while getting crushed in the lore, vs the custodes being amazing in the lore while being… ok… on the tabletop.
As a Necron player, this is the way that I see it:
When the Nightbringer was shattered into a thousand pieces, it put the fear of death into every mortal creature.
When Khaine was shattered into a thousand piece, he became a joke.
Sure but Khaine still 1v1'd a ctan and won
Took 2 chaos gods ripping his very being apart to kill him
The two chaos gods both wanted him alive. One chaos god soloed the entire elder pantheon, and both wanted him as their trophy to put on a shelf. Khorne is probably more why he's alive.
@@what4hats Unironically thank Khorne, at least the shattered bits and pieces of this dick survived to be made into a laughing stock.
No offense to the Eldar Players.
There is two more stories about Khaine's Wins and Losses:
Tigurius is another Ultramarine who defeated the Avatar by zapping him in Melee with his Psy-Staff.
In the Valedor Campaign though he had an epic Win for once. Well kinda, after the Iyanden Warhost left a planet full with Tyranids, they had to leave their Avatar shamefully back and later on in the storyline, when they came back to the Planet they found a HUGE crater consisting of Tyranid Corpses and the Avatar of Khaine was still raging and killing Tyranids in the center of that crater. Well at least one badass story and win for Mr. Angryhotpants
I didn't read the last material, did Khaine resist the Shadow in the Warp phenomenon, or was he straight up not affected by it?
For an entity, animated by what I assume is pure warp energy, that's pretty impressive. If the Shadow is still the horrifying thing that cuts off access to the warp that is, and doesn't just make it harder to use.
@silver1340 the shadow in the warp disrupts minor psyckers and interrupts astropathic comunication. An exceedingly powerful psycker would resist it and use his/her powers unaffected. Khaine also isn't a straight up demon,so he wouldn't be weakened
Interesting fact about Khaine. In Warhammer Fantasy 4th through 6th edition he was very obviously just Khorne with an elf hat on down to witch elves having Khorne marked models and banner poles.
I don't know why this is so funny to me. I just imagine Khorne walking around Ulthuan with a drawing of Khaine on his face like the spy's disguise in team fortress 2
Valkia and Hellebron are suspiciously similar 🧐
thats what happens when you give a dyslexic the task of keeping records
"no no we totally dont worship khorne, its khaine"
yeah its just fucking khorne
Fauna as Isha will never cease to amuse me, also poor Khaine, i guess he is yet to die to guardsmen, i think
For now...
Only until the arty regiment is given the greenlight to teamkill in order to deal with the giant red glowing target
Please god, don't give John Workshop any ideas...
@@spork6580who’s that?
@@628GamerIts a running joke going on, where if you need to personify a game, company, etc. You put John for the first name, and the companys name as the last name. For example here, John Workshop
Khaine: I am the eldar god of war I can destroy entire army’s with one swing of my sword and it took at least two chaos gods to defeat me and even then I still live on in my avatars.
Named space marine: breathes a little near the avatar of khaine direction
Khaine: literally implodes back to the warp.
As an eldar player, let Khaine be the embodiment of a distraction carnifex. My warp spiders already stole all your gene-seed.
I need to get my head out of the gutter…
@@headcrabo..2301 nah, I put you there on purpose. Flounder in it
Wait, are they male or female? Either way I'm running, I just want to know how they're stealing them like Blood Ravens when they see wargear.
@airplanemaniacgaming7877 male, female, whatever it takes
A powerful vibe.@@GeminautVA
Lovely compilation of all the fluff i personally have inhaled over the last 20 years.
One detail with Khaine being smart: He didnt actually realize that one sword was fake, but he actually gave all 100 swords to 100 Eldar Heroes and fought with them against the Necrons. Unfortunately when they formed a defensive circle the poor Hero with the fake sword was the weak link and when his sword shattered, the same happened to their formation and most of the Heroes were slaughtered. Khaine was able to barely survive with a couple of Heroes and when he came back he was so pissed that he cripled Vaul then and forced him to make weapons for eternity as punishment.
Fair reaction honestly
...oh.
Yeah that'd explain why he focused Vaul and not the other two he had imprisoned.
Anywhere I can read up on that story?
@@thejetty_ afaik the story was written in at least one of the older Eldar Codexes. Somewhere between 2nd and 6th Edition i think.
1 bad sword passed of as legendary costing over 90 heroes who were using over 89 legendary swords... yeah, I'd be real mad.
You know it’s pathetically embarrassing (for GW, and Khaine) when the board version of Khaine and him being used for Elf Goddess Fuel does more justice to the man than the 40K current version.
When I was first introduced to 40K and saw Khaine I thought he was so cool so I asked one my friends about the guy and well….my opinion changed really fast…poor guy
Making Fauna an avatar of Isha is such a powerful move it hurts my head with the accuracy
I know there is at least one piece of fan art of her with papa Nurgle.
@@Kaboom0 there is fanart of Kronii with Nurgle. Personally I would pair Faunya with tzeentch because she can be a sneaky lil gremlin from time to time
We be out here describing adult human beings as “sneaky lil gremlins”
@@SirFooplesTheThirdwhy would kronii be with nurgle haha I guess time rots but yeah weird
@@primary2630 Subway incident...
Khaine wouldn’t be shit on nearly as much if there were more Eldar gods around, then GW would have ALL of the Xeno gods get beat by Space Marine favoritism.
(I hate GW favoritism)
Speaking of alien gods..... I am very concerned about the Tau Empire's new Goddess. Both the concept frustrates me, and I'm afraid how this is going to play out.
@@bthsr7113 its clarified in Shadowsun's novel that its the client races that give this new "god" of the Greater Good form. The T'au themselves are still the same barely psychically present as they are before, and still as horrified that this is what their client races are unintentionally doing.
@Sercotani it's gonna be The Greater Jobber when a named Space Marine gets their eye on it
@@bthsr7113the concept is actually kinda interesting, i wonder where that one will go, but lore wise it makes sense.
Many of the client races of the Tau can travel faster and further than the Tau, so word of the greater good spreads faster than the empire whom cannot slap these idiots in the face telling them:"its not a religion!" So the goddess now exist.
@@BacktoBack_Daishōit will die.
No, i dont care, it will die, she wiped out what was left of a large nurgle warband (probably at 60-70% strenght) of death guards after dragging them to her realm, a named space marine has -100 chances to win.
I have never understood the Eldar hate. Khaine is terrifying, and his avatar has destroyed many of my rubrics and banished Daemon Prince Jeff at least once.
KHAINE LIVES! IN THE NAME OF KHAINE!
Soulstones: Technology of Peace!
PEACE THROUGH POWER!
Everyone knows to be a Space Marine Chapter Master you have to body at least 4 Avatars of Khaine
And a hive tyrant oh also a bloodthirster
@@Al3xandr35and rip a Necron pylon out of the ground and start using it to beat the shit out of Necrons.
Wait, why are we talking about Moroneus Cargal?
I still can't get over Fulgrim *strangling a statue to death*. Though him getting stampeded by carnifexes is at least funny.
Y'know, a video about Khaine and eldar as a whole about how you'd fix them and make them more palpable to general audiences could be interesting
Frankly I don't even know if it's possible to do so, without fundamentally changing who they are.
The harlequins are the only thing remotely interesting about 40K Eldar, and even that's kind of a novelty that doesn't last.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 honestly i think it could be done, I fucking hate elves but i think theyve been done a bit dirty in 40k. At least give them some impactful sideplot, have them rebuild Khaine out of his fragments and statues to throw planets at Slanesh at least or even beat a single named ultra marine. Maybe have 1 of the craftworlds sacrifice themselves to become one continent sized avatar of that god of death. Or just have Guiliman bone his eldar gf and make some unholy human-elf alliance
I bet you’ve never read any eldar books. There is nothing unpalatable about them, they are ironically often more human and reasonable than the imperium.
@@joesheridan9451 yes their books generally arent awful, too bad theres 13 imperium books for every eldar 1
Fun tidbit: the dinosaur extinction (or Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction event) took place approximately 66 million years ago. Earth was in Paleogene period meaning mammals were just starting their way to dominance. Also I am convinced that Eldanesh was emperor tier, with literal gods being dime of dozen at the time, no way that level of warriors weren’t relatively common. Plus with guys like that around, it is no wonder Eldar didn’t feel threatened by anyone including the chaos gods.
All hail possibility of khaine reviving himself into a goddess of war.
Well one with more control over himself.
Considering that you used Fauna for Isha, perhaps you should have used Pippa for Khaine. I mean, Khaine's rampage against the Eldar is pretty much the 40K equivalent of the Pink Yabbit shooting up a Walmart.
Deeply upset with myself I didn’t think of this
In Minecraft of course
I appreciate the increasing amount of Fauna that has been appearing whenever you talk about Elves
And pomni as cegorach
The Eldar God's should have Daemons of their own.
Why? They didn't exist
I agree, that way we could have isha demons
I would like to give thanks to Khaine, on behalf of the Necrons, for making their job a little bit easier in regards to the C'tan.
...Because of you, I have the funny image of The Silent King or one of the other big-name Necrons just giving Khaine a shaky thumbs up, and Khaine just giving them a big smile, a thumbs up, and then leaping off like the Hulk in the first Avengers movie to go fight some more.
I play mostly Marines. I like their lore and gameplay. Yet you still managed to not only change my opinion on the God of war, but also make me want to buy and paint him. Congratulations to you
There was a bit of lore where the Avatar turned a tyranid swarm into a mountain of corpses
Yeah valedor, even better he was left on a planet swarmed with tyranids, and when they came back days later he was still alive and kicking ass
I'm surprised he didn't talk about that, cause it's in the same book as when he challenged the Hive Tyrant.
I'm just saying, "High Profit of Truth vs. Khaine" is a video I would love to watch.
"NOOO NOT AGAIN WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN????" advarter of Kaine last words after tripping on an stone and dying (the space marine wanted to fight him hand to hand and was also very much angry the adverter die)
Khaine is awesome in the book Shadowpoint, the sequel to Execution Hour. Really captures his devastating godly power. Spoilers: He doesn't come close to being threatened, but also doesn't come up against any other high level players - so not the best example of him not being bodied. Great book series though
A Border Prince did great narrations of both books. He's 10/10
It's amazing how many times an avatar of khaine is used as a punching bag for a character to show how "badass" they are
Several others factions have one too.
Nids have the swarm lord.
The imperium has knights and titans
Daemons have demon princes
@@velphidrow8317most of the time the things you mentioned (though the Knights and Titans are more just "hurr hurr, spaceship [or Shadowsword if you're lucky] go brrrrrrr" if there's no named Ultrasmurfs.) are just things the big Smurf has been written as killing.
Always looking forward to the new drop from Pancreas, forgot what else I was gonna say
Khaine showing up just to randomly butcher Aeldari cause someone told him they'd "kill" him first is just hilarious
20:14 :)
I would like if Khaine, Isha, Clown God and Ynead all became apart of the 40k setting in serious ways. It would make the Aelderi much better but also a big threat in another Edition
I could fix this with time and a book series but knowing GW they like to stroke of Space Marines a lot.
How? Khaine will never be whole, Isha is trapped, and Ceogorach is playing his own game
@@velphidrow8317because they're all aspects of the big 4
Khaine is Khorne
Ishya is Nurgle
Cegorach is Tzeentch
Ynead is Slaanesh
@@teejay1646 that's not true at all lmao
@@teejay1646 They are not, they are the reverse of the chaos gods.
@@velphidrow8317 Isha can be saved because Nurgles realm is currently on fire for awhile thanks to Big E. A Fools hope, but still a hope.
It would make a cool series of heist books for the Aelderi trying to save Isha. Hell it could be Ceogorach's idea or one of his grand plans. This one is more possible then Ynead atm.
Isha would seriously be messed up by Nurgle keeping things grimdark.
Could do something similar to the final sword in Slaaneesh's palace, Could piss off Khorne or Angorn and lead either into the Palace to wreak havoc. Aelderi grab the sword and do a fighting retreat out of the realm.
They would however need the help of the Imperium, The Gray Knights
As for Khaine, his would be the greatest fools hope or something else might be planned. It would require all Aelderi and then some to unite and bring the shards together but thats a insanely long shot.
2 of these would be great series of books if done right. Just ideas to throw out their to give the Aelderi a bone for once.
Khaine is the Worf of war gods.
Also Isha as Ceres Fauna is canon.
20:30 Ok after that Command and Conquer reference, I'd now love to see you tackle Command and Conquer. It was such a unique and cool franchise that was a dear part of my childhood so you talking about it's lore would be fantastic.
As an AdMech player i sympathize with your plight. Our faction seam to only exist in the lore currently to make xenos look good.
Nice try there with the nightbringer elf-thing!
But allow me to ask, if the Eldar are oh-so-great, why are they a dying race while the Necron are on their reawakining?
Yeah, reawakening….to beat the ever loving shit outta of each other over disputes that are older then the dinosaurs while the silent king cries in autotune listening to imotekh calling him a pussy for 100th time that week
Jesus, my monkey brain stared at that DoW 2 loading screen and was wondering why it wasn’t loading on my rig.
Personally I always thought the Eldar Gods were Wraithbone constructs of godlike power, animated to fight the C'Tan, and who assumed the role of gods following the War in Heaven
The reason I thought that is just because Khaine broke apart into shards of Wraithbone during his fight with Slaanesh
Wraithbone post dates the war in heaven iirc
I remember my Avatar of Khaine almost punched the Avatar of Yneed to death, she teleported away and attempted to smite my Guardians squad. Double ones, the enemy player did a CP roll and rolled snake eyes.
The best moment in my entire 40K legacy
As a Necron Fan we didn't win the War in Heaven, but I wouldn't say the Necrons lost either. I feel like fighting kinda puttered out after the Old Ones were killed and the C'tan were shattered, and neither the Eldar/Kork or the Necrons were in a state to definitively wipe each other out. If the Eldar were in a state to wipe out the Necrons at the End of the War after they went into the Great Sleep they would've taken the opportunity at the time, I imagine either the Eldar had an agree with the Silent King towards the End of the War to call a truce so they could work together to overthrow the C'tan, or the Eldar were licking their wounds and weren't in a state to oppose the Necrons going into stasis at the end of the war. The Eldar did destroy some tomb worlds during the Great Sleep, most notably the Mephrit Dynasty Crownworld, but the fact that there are still so many major Tomb Worlds in the galaxy despite the Eldar having a 60 million year window to wipe out the entire race makes me think that either A) This destruction of the Mephrit Crownworld was an act taken millions of years after the War when any agreements were forgotten along with an accurate tally of major Tomb Worlds.
Or b) the eldars were too busy committing unspeakable horrors beyond mortal comprehension of the secksual variety on each others
Boiling BLOOD. Remember, this is Warhammer, if you're going to give sacrifices to a God of War, blood has to be involved at some point.
There is one other instance of a 1/2 victory for the Avatar of Khaine. In the book Valedor, where Iyanden and Biel-tan (back when they were still buddies) have to defend themselves from Hive Fleet Kraken. Prince Yriel was also there.
Anyways, in the story, one of the Biel-Tan armies being accompanied by an avatar of khaine gets attacked by Kraken. They fight valiantly, with the avatar fighting and killing numerous tyranids. But eventually they get overrun and forced to retreat from the planet. The autarch is forced to abandon the Avatar, who when they last see it gets overwhelmed by the tyranid horde.
Later, the Autarch returns to the planet with massive reinforcements to take it back. When he arrives he finds a LITERAL MOUNTAIN of dead tyranids, and something fiery flickering in between. Soon after, the mountain explodes, and a damaged but still definitely very alive Avatar of Khaine steps out of it, impaling a tyranid with his spear on the way before going ham on the horde once more. Not only had the madlad survived, but he had been fighting tyranids the entire time.
I will post the whole excerpt here later when I find it again, but its really fucking cool with the Avatar slaying dozens of tyranids with each attack and straight up one shotting carnifexes with a single punch.
Anyways, I agree, we need a few more god avatars for khaine. As GW has decided the avatars should be the primarch equivalent for the eldar on the tabletop, they may as well give us an avatar of isha and cegorach. Hell, avatars of the dead gods are also possible, as it is said in lore that though they got consumed, their shards do float around the galaxy. Eldrad has a shard of the morai-heg within him. Give us an avatar of vaul, that super buffs the army, or an avatar of asuryan with psychic powers that would make magnus blush, or an avatar of kurnous that makes eldar units even faster. The potential is endless.
Edit- Here's the excerpt. I'm sorry its very long, but its awesome as hell.
Sunspear remained to the end, directing the heavy weapons fire of his weapons batteries and tanks to aid the evacuation as best he could. To the west, on a crag below the command post, his Revenants fought with three gigantic hive crones, the bladed tips of the tyranids’ limbs slicing curls of wraithbone from the Titans’ armour. He clenched his teeth as he watched a giant winged creature knock a war walker from a cliff, snatch up a second in its claws and drop it onto the rocks below. In the valley, the Avatar of Khaine battled on, its giant form reduced to a glow surrounded by darting shadows by distance. Sunspear watched as its fires were gradually eclipsed by the creatures attacking it.
He could not save it. Shame filled him.
‘The heavier elements of our force have withdrawn from the valley, Autarch Sunspear,’ said Hethaeliar the Fourth-Blooded, her sing-song voice as empty of emotion as ever.
‘What of Guardian group Whispering Aid?’
‘All dead, autarch. As with so many others, their waystones remain where they have fallen. It is something of good fortune that none, as yet, have been destroyed.’
‘How many dead?’ said Sunspear quietly. A Crimson Hunter exploded in the valley below. To his left, a range of support weapons intensified fire to the front of the rock shelf, battering a rearing harridan out of the sky. Its cargo of gargoyle children shrieked as they burned.
‘Four hundred and eighty-seven,’ she said. She shrugged. ‘None damned. That is a thing.’
‘It is a thing,’ agreed Sunspear without conviction. ‘Sound the final retreat.’
‘What of the Avatar, autarch?’ said Hethaeliar. Sunspear turned away from the battle below, refusing to look at the place he had last seen the god-fragment. His posture told Hethaeliar all she needed to know. Sunspear looked at the farseers by his Wave Serpent, entirely occupied with keeping the morale-sapping presence of the hive mind at bay. His heart was like lead, his tongue ashen.
‘I will inform the farseers myself.’
[Later in the novel Biel-tan's host return to the planet to finish the job]
Sunspear brought up an external view to replace his maps. The mound of Far Ranging Hunger’s corpses appeared bigger close to. North of the Godpeak, three triads of Vypers zoomed around it high above, hidden from the voidspawn by their own spores and the eldar’s technology. A ring of creatures surrounded the mound, clambering over their dead to get to whatever had slain them. There was a flash of firelight, playing through the interlocked limbs of dead voidspawn.
‘No, it can’t be…’ His heart quickened. Involuntarily, he leaned closer to the viewing globe. The globe responded to his movement by expanding and zooming in. There was a flare of orange fire. A spear burst through the chest of a broad-mouthed serpent rearing atop the pile. A bloody fist pulled a warrior beast’s feet from under it, then grabbed at the hissing creature and crushed its skull.
From the heap of dead, the god of war emerged.
‘The Avatar! The Avatar of Khaine lives!’ Sunspear said. He keyed his communications net to widecast, and shouted it again to all the eldar upon Dûriel. ‘The Avatar is with us!’ The Avatar strode down the mound, into the heart of the horde surrounding him. His body leaked molten iron from a dozen wounds, but his fires were undimmed. He cast the Suin Daellae, sending it in a wide circle where it punched through alien after alien. The Avatar punched its fist into the side of a living tank, and pulled out a handful of clotted matter that ignited in its furnace grip. The living statue held out its other hand and snatched the spear from the air as it returned, spinning on its heel to smash it through the face of a warrior beast that ran at him.
‘Attack! Attack!’ cried Sunspear. ‘Aid our Avatar!’ The Falcons following in his wake split wide to either side, the jetbikes and Vypers peeling away. They dropped from the clouds, weapons firing. At the back of his mind, Sunspear felt the deadly intelligence of the hive mind shift, its attention drawn to this troublesome spot on the world. But it was of no matter to him, when some small part of his honour might be restored. ‘Aid the Avatar! For the glory of Khaine!’ The tanks set up a complex fire pattern of interlocked laser blasts, felling voidspawn monstrosities by the score. ‘Create a cordon! Set us down, set us down here! Hethaeliar, send immediate reinforcement!’
Sunspear’s Falcon was first down, others following, swiftly deploying their cargoes of Aspect Warriors before zooming off to take up firing circuits in the air. The Aspect Warriors set about destroying the aliens near the mound, allowing the tanks to range further out.
Neat
That snippet made me like Eldar. And I'm a necron fanboy
@@krios7299 Hey, necrons are the eldar's ancient rivals. We gotta appreciate one another. XD
But ya, when they are written well, Eldar are wonderful to read about. I can recommend this book, its legit solidly written.
Khaine? Khorne? Khârn?
GW really needs to learn how to give creative names to their warlike characters
KHAAAAAAAAAAN!!!
Marneus vs Khaine way back when 40K power levels were written around Chapter Masters instead of Primarchs, so I kinda accept that fight as it's basically just a knight beating a mighty dragon.
Khaine getting caught between Khorne and Slaanesh is basically the boyfriend from the gym and the psychotic harpy playing tug of war. Also that tangent on the Horus Heresy feels like a prelude to video about it.
I was listening to 'Saving Aeldari Lore!' just this morning. I'm still going to paint some Aeldari, because I'm tired of Space Marines and Chaos Trim Marines.
Common necron W
No reason required
He's a god of war, the job description didn't say anything about winning them.
So long as wars keep warring he's doing his job.
Even if it's retconned, I like Khaine being the Elf version of Khorne. The earliest images of Witch elves showed them with the symbol of Khorne, so at one time, they did worship Khorne.
The Eldar or Old Ones taking fragments of the greater Chaos Gods and making them into their own gods works for me. Khaine was a piece of Khorne, Cegorach a piece of Tzeentch, and Isha a piece of Nurgle. So when a new Chaos God forms, and tries to consume these lesser aspects/fragments, Khorne battles her for Khaine, Nurgle reclaims his aspect, and Tzeentch giggles as his aspect escapes.
Makes alot of sense especially if you follow the idea that each chaos god was once uncorrupt the Eldar gods could be the “good aspects” of each. Isha really makes sense to me that way as nurgle represents life as much as decay
Necrons we're still totally the winners of the war in heaven because immortal space zombie robots are cooler in my opinion. And my opinion matters more because my pancreas still works.
Ah, yes. The Lt Worf of the 40k!
So powerfull you throw him around to prove how powerfull the opponent is.
Also known as The Vegeta Effect.
The knife ears had to call in their gods to fight the C'Tans.
Meanwhile Assoholotep of the Kokhenballs dynasty just did it by himself and his countless mindless serfs.
Eldar superiority my rusty Necrodermis ass.
I remember watching a 5th edition game of 40k when that was fresh, where a space wolf lonewolf solo'd an avatar in melee. Think this was about the time they transitioned into the Marie sue marines, which is strange because I don't think matt ward wrote their codex.
Things like this makes me wonder if matt ward was really that bad or was he just used as a scapegoat by an anonymous author? especially considering matt ward made the necrons what they are now since before him they had even less personality than the tyranids cuz something most people don't know is that he wrote the 5th edition necron codex most of the necron characters were literally made by him including orikan the diviner and trazyn the infinite
I remember there was an history in 40k where the eldars where fighting some tyrannids and they summon khaine, a week passes and they go to retrieve the shard of khaine and they find him still fighting the tyrannids on the planet on a mountain of bodies
Avatars of Khaine should be as strong as Greater Daemons, change my mind.
Having representatives of the other Eldar gods running around _would_ be nice. Maybe if the Exodites become a faction, or at least a couple units that can be fit into other Eldar armies, "Isha Daemons" would be a flavorful addition. And the Harlequins just generally need a range update, so having an "Avatar of Cegorach" running around - even if he's a sort of "physical" illusion, as befits these tricky MFers - would work well.
I actually don't mind the "space marines blew up the ship he was in killing him" result because its a good sort of brains beats brawn situation. I like to look at it like this, the space marines knew that taking him on in direct combat was suicide, so they had to improvise.
Depending on the lore interpretation, Khaine could very easily be Isha and Vaul's father, what with Lileath being Morai-Heg's granddaughter.
Isha being substituted by Fauna from Hololive wasn’t what I was expecting, but I sure am glad it's here.
Fun fact: This is not his first time doing that, I am fully convinced he is a Sapling
ONE OF US
@@chasebladesword1211 Just further proof that the Venn Diagram of Warhammer fans and Vtuber fans is a circle.
The Cain/Khain joke was making me laugh my ass.
Ofc the Elf Simp makes a 40 minute video on an Elf god
Good Work Pancreas, unironically keep it up
New video? A fantastic way to end my day!
I stopped my Gotrek and Felix audiobook for this, this better be good.
Necrons lost due to the infinite repeating enslaver plague that wiped out nearly everyone. Even your beloved knife ears fled into the web ways to escape that. For the rest of the war, the Necrons were fighting a civil war to try and regain their own souls from the C'tun who shafted them, and the C'tun turning on each other to eat each other.
I am sure Khaine, battered and near death, found a freshly ate out Nightbringer shard and landed a lucky blow via using his last fate point, to cause the shard to shatter across the universe.
In other words, he achieved what the average Ultra Smurf does before breakfast.
Ah yes Khaine, a neophyte's first test.
In fantasy, the excuse is that Khaine wasn't really created by the elves like most Gods in the setting. The Elves were stuck with him because the Elven pantheon were survivor from a previous universe, and Khaine was their version of the devil. As much as the elves don't want him around, they're sort of stuck with. Contrast Sigmar or Ulrich, who themselves are also war deities but are generally cool dudes.
Don't forget the dawrf ancestor god of war cuz I'm pretty sure he's a chill one too
@@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593 Grimnir is the dwarven God of war, and he's a pretty good God. His defining feature is to embody the courage of the Dwarves, and the ability of anyone overcoming fear. And it's ironic that the Dwarven God of war values people who might be seen as weaker overcoming enemies that are considered stronger (the reason why he's so revered by Slayer cults), while the Elven God of war is that the strong should murder the weak because they're weak.
idea for a homebrew space marine chapter: aspirants aren't elevated to full battle brother until they single handedly kill an avatar of khaine
The artwork for him is awesome though
me knowing fuck all about Khaine: ''yeah yeah what ever''
''Khaine smashed the Necron god of death into little pieces''
me: oh....OOOOOH DAMN OK
My guy, I love your videos.
I'm fairly new to the WH40K lore (not so new if TTS Emps counts), so being educated while laughing til I cry is the best orientation. Subscribed.
This reminds me of how Ares, the Greek god of war was also a punching bag in the mythology, who regularly got his ass kicked by mortal heroes.
Maybe have the khaine win 20 times or something that makes the chaos god pissed and emperor semi worried.
"feared as Ares" Ares was beaten up by a pair of nine year old giants and put in a bronze jar.
There was that shadow point book where an avatar went on a rampage and super murdered a bunch of orks and dark Eldar and then left without anyone doing much to stop it.
The only Avatar kill I have read that gave them some respect was in Fulgrim. Fulgrim and the Avatar actually traded a number of blows and iirc the Avatar threw Fulgrim like a sack of potatoes.
The most laughable one was in Forges of Mars. A single Black Templar Terminator Chaplain solo’d one and they both died. Oh and there was other Eldar that were attacking the Chaplain as well.
I read Forges of Mars before Fulgrim. Imagine my surprise when Fulgrim didn’t just obliterate the Avatar by sneezing on him.
Yeah for being an admech novel there's too much bolter pron like a myrmidon struggling to take down a space marine in a friendly duel because "he lacks heart" or somesh*t like that or literal DAOT era men of irons having trouble killing marines because "they weren't built to fight these things" or something
For the theory on the Aeldari Gods being made from weapons, it kind off makes sense. The Necrons are banging on the Old Ones' door, ya cant have species development long enough to naturally make those Gods.
Love the video, love the little notes that sometimes pop up, and you have to show us the finished paint job of your avatar.
just found your channel! thanks for making these! look forward to watch them all :)
Khaine seems like a somewhat more competent Ares, nobody really likes the guy he used to kick ass waaaaay ig, but gets treated as almost a joke in most other myths because people surprisingly dont like war who would have thunk it
The domain of war on Warhammer is really interesting because it is broken up among so many gods, many of which are explicitly opposed to each other. Khorne is the most well known, but like you said in this video Khaine, especially in Fantasy is just as prevalent if not more prevalent in certain eras than Khorne. There is also Gork and Mork/ Gorkamorka that are absolutely war gods as well in all 3 Warhammer settings. If we go to Fantasy and AoS we have Sigmar himself as another war god, and arguably Big E, if he is truly has ascended to divinity, presides partially over the domain of war. Sure there is some overlap between the big 4 Chaos Gods, but war fuels a lot of very different entities in a lot of very different ways
I'm not a massive lore nerd, but I knew something was up when I saw that Khaine had an entire faction devoted to him in Fantasy and AOS.
20:11 this was the exact moment I looked back at my phone since I was listening to this while getting ready for the day, thanks and I hope you have a good day too!