Pinned comment is no funny joke, the playable Nagash faction mod for Total Warhammer II was released a few days ago and you should go play it right goddamn now. Literally as I was making the video I went “I wonder if it’s up and running yet.” Such is the power of Nagash.
I’m so glad you do these kind of videos. You should do videos like left 4 dead , dead by daylight, and so on. Also your voice is fantastic. In fact, would you rather ride a bike with joe Biden or fight the nagash faction?
HOOOOLY SHIT THE NECRONS HAVE A TITAN ON FORGE-WORLD It looks amazing in my *humble* opinion, almost like they tried to make a small Covenant Scarab based off of the Tyrranid Hierophant Which shouldn't make it look like a Scarab maybe but then again the actual scarab might be a little too beefy for the Necron aesthetic. I really want the Halo Infinite campaign to be expanded so we can climb aboard a Scarab again.
There is a line in the Babylon 5 series when Sheridan returns from Z'ha'dum. "Captain were sorry we thought you were dead" and Sheridan responds "I was...I'm better now". Reminds me of Nagash, only he says it over and over and over again, lol.
The war between Skavendom, and Nagash in a nutshell Nagash: "There has to be an end to them, there HAS to be." Skaven: "There has to be an end to them, there HAS to be."
It's even better than that, Nagash pushed them back all the way to Skavenblight and was only pushed back again when the Skaven invented the Warpfire Thrower. That and a few other inventions saved the skaven from total annihilation. I have come up with an ideal while writing this that one of those may have been the skaven just flat out removing women's rights. It has no basis in anything, but it would be interesting.
To be fair - said summoner (one of Neferata’s traitorous courtiers) thought he was calling Nagash back from the beyond so likely thought he would have some degree of control over him. If I got a phone call from a stranger with an attitude implying I should do what they say, I’d probably react similarly - “ex-fucking-scuse you?!”
FR. it goes from "i want to be the ruler of my kingdom so i'm going to kill my brother" to "i'm going to raise every single dead person in existence to be my slave"
"At one point he died, but he decided dying was cringe so he just possessed his body and kept on walking." This is the most necromancer thing anyone has ever done or thought of. "Raises every corpse on the planet. All of them." I stand corrected.
@@albertlofling7310 in my mind, a human who necromancies themselves is pretty common. It’s like a “Lich”, a lot of Lich turned themselves because they were once powerful wizards.
My favorite thing about Nagash is that his bonehat is almost as tall as his chest (depends of the Image). He may be the God of death, but he and the pope have their priorities right.
Nagash: "I've exhausted every evil plan in my arsenal, from A to Y." Arkhan: "A to Y?" Nagash: "Yeah you know, A to Y, the alphabet." Arkhan: "What about Z?" Nagash: "Z?" Arkhan: "Yes, Z, the letter after Y." Nagash: "W, X, Y... Z! PLAN Z, HERE IT IS! JUST LIKE YOU SAID!" Arkhan: "Oh boy..." Nagash: "Oh... OH... It's EVIL! It's DIABOLICAL! It's LEMON SCENTED! THIS PLAN Z CAN'T POSSIBLY FAIL!" - Famous conversation between Nagash 'Skelepope' the Undying and Arkan the Black, shortly before the End Times
@@jonathanathor117 and moses turn all the water in egypt into filthy blood that kills all the fish, forcing the egyptian to dig for or dehydrate. You can hardly beat bible characters in the evil game.
Fun Fact about how assholish Nagash is, if I remember rightly during the Age of Chaos where Chaos took over almost 100% of the Mortal Realms the lives of folks who lived in Shyish actually go noticeably BETTER. That's right it's legitimately better to submit to Chaos than it is to live under Nagash.
I like to think that when Nagash decided to relax and move his black pyramid he was thinking to himself "This time my plan is full proof. No prisoners for the Skaven to use and give warpstone knives too" then all he hears is the distant sound of Ikit laughing as his nukes go off in the pyramid
You're standing on a hill watching Nagash's pyramid float through the air. You hear a rat like giggle and watch the pyramid explode in itty bitty bits. While the sound of the big kaboom fades the sound of a very pissed off Nagash keeps increasing in intensity. It sounds like a gigantic FUCKING RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATS
Nagash is nice change of pace in villainy, at least in today's fiction. Everything today is "No one is a good guy, everyone and everything is gray! There is no real good and evil!!" And he comes in and just says "Hello I'm here for your bones and I'm not asking." We need more of that.
Take note that Nagash was beaten because the Tomb King of Lhamia bought guns from Cathay so according to the Lore the dwarves could have beaten Nagash in a moment, so yes, the elves srewed It again
I would like to point the details to the NagashxMorathi storyline, because...it's frankly hilarious, and everyone who needs to hear about Morathi being humiliated will greatly enjoy it. Basically, when Sigmar forged the Pantheon of Order out of the Incarnates and other entities of great power, Morathi got a ticket to the club, mostly so they could keep an eye on her. At this point in time, Morathi had an unpleasant time in the belly of Slaanesh and her "Big Snake" form was something she dealt with using illusions to look like the elves she always was. The first line of work for Morathi was to find a new "puppet" to seduce and manipulate, like in the old times. Of course, she couldn't pull that on Tyrion, Teclis, Alarielle, or Malekith/Malerion who...well, had enough of her. Grimnir and Grugni were Dwarven Gods, so out of the question and let's not talk about Gorkamorka. Only Sigmar and Nagash remained as candidates, so of course, Morathi chose our favorite Hammer God. Sigmar being Sigma, rejected Morathi's advances and propositions, fully aware of what she was capable of, so this Morathi ended up with no option but Nagash. Nagash, being an absolute dick and Morathi deserving it, breaks her spell of illusion in front of the entire Pantheon, turning her from the beautiful Sorceress to a rage-fulled Medusae. As they look at her, horrified and disgusted, Morathi runs back to Ulgu, preparing her vengeance and her own ascension to Godhood.
@@azariel6669 It's shortly described in the First Edition Battletome for the Daughters of Khaine, but not in any worthwhile reading. It's pretty much brushed aside as the reason Morathi was not there when shit hit the fan in the Pantheon of Order.
@@farseeraradrel4808 That made me laugh. At least Sigmar and Nagash aren't simps and I bet everyone in the Order pantheon knew Morathi's true form and just roll with it to troll with her.
Nagash seems like the type of guy to open up a blender box at target to see what’s inside and then ask the employees to bring him another one that isn’t opened
Remember, kids: Nagash isn't a failure because he sucks, he's just following in the long tradition of boney supervillains who continually get pretty far with schemes to fuck shit up, get thwarted and have everything undone, only to come back for more the next week. Grandpa Skeletor would be proud.
I can just imagine Skaven saying to Alcadizaar “here here take warpstone dagger blade and stab kill bone hairless thing yes yes” and Alcadizaar just wondering what the hell was going on
Jack Horner would call him an irredeemable monster only for Nagash to subject him to a fate so awful that Puss would pity him. Not because he was angry at being called that, he was just bored hearing it literally more times than he could count
I imagine fighting Nagash is like hiding behind pillars and cowering. Because if you get into his sight you get fetus deletus'ed like a poor planet in front of a supernova.
I had a friend who let me play his Nagash army, and he informed me about the lore of Nagash being an absolute dick head to everyone and everything. So, I decided to channel the dickish energy of Nagash myself with the hand of dust spell, and make it so they would always pick the wrong hand. The methods I used to achieved this varied from dice up the sleeves to pocketing the dice, and many many more methods are outright cheating because why play fair when Nagash wouldn't.
@@wrongix6544 I mean, you can make the tragic villain also a meme “I may have wiped hundreds of people, murdered heroes and all, but I had a bad childhood!”
I always figured that even though Nagash was ridiculously powerful, he was still essentially a frail human. All that magic surging through him was a blessing and a curse. He wrote the books as a way to contain some of that magic in safely transportable batteries, accessible only to him as & when he needed it. This was of course well before he became the OG Bone Daddy we all know him as today
*Cannons fire confetti made from the shredded screaming remnants of damned souls...somehow.* Look it’s Nagash, he undoubtedly found a (definitely horrific) way to do it!
Nagash probably wouldn't be too happy to hear the god of a certain race has gained a big ol power boost and is technically something of a chaos god himself
Bruh, Nagash wins more often then he loses. All villains do (well, almost all, look:) it's how a villain becomes a worthy enough threat to merit the heroes trying to stop them. The villain goes from successful plot, attack, battle, war whatever right up until the point where the people trying to stop them build up enough steam for that final climatic confrontation. At which point either the villain finally fails more than they can overcome, or wins and the story either has to end or the story continues because that wasn't truly the epic final confrontation was it? Yeah Nagash loses, but if Nagash only lost he'd be called Mannfred von Carstein. Nope he's Nagash; because Nagash is a legend who gets shit done and the only things that can stop him are the stuff of legends in their own right.
@@Si_Sireeni better than some whining bastich who had childhood problems. "oh im an asshole because everyone else was" i prefer "im an asshole because that's who i am"
That’s simply not true. He’s a significant threat if left unchecked, that’s why he always gets checked. But because of who he is, he keeps coming back, and then losing. You don’t become the world biggest dickhead by winning more than losing. His win/lose rate is totally weighed into lose. That’s not to say he isn’t a threat though.
The fucking Hand of Nagash spell is the greatest thing I've ever learned, and I demand more spells with quirky rules like that like what, didn't 40k Orks used to HAVE to shout WAAAGH in order for it to work? XD
Nagash is so edgy, he makes the chaos gods seem positively spherical in comparison. (And by edgy, I mean the quiet kind in the back of class who always wears black and never shows up to gym class)
I’d say more like the edgy kid who was probably planning on shooting up the school. Then reanimating all his victims corpses to make them dab in front of their grieving loved ones. Nagash isn’t so much edgy as he is a tumbleweed of barbed wire.
I remember arkhan pissed him off once for failing and cursed him to be eaten by insects. Arkhan was immortal at the time so it was just constant unending pain.
Sometimes we want a villain with complex motives, is somewhat or actually sympathetic, and/or is tragic some way. Other times, we want a villain who is straight up vile, malicious, and who is not just irredeemably evil but also absolutely revels in it. Both are valid options, especially when done right. I think Nagash is an example of the latter done right. Especially given his malicious creativity when it comes to all the villainous things he’s done.
@@user-unos111 I mean yeah and no. He's a warlock. So pretty much all kinds of dark magic (from demon summoning to soul sucking) is in his repertoire. But mostly he does dark rituals. Demon binding and portals and all that.
I'd say Nagash is leagues worse than Gul'dan. Gul'dan was a massive douche who had a habit of betraying and fucking people over in all sorts of torturous ways, but he acted like it more pragmatically instead of just for shits and giggles. Nagash, on the other hand, did all sorts of incredibly, horrifically fucked-up shit, _simply because he could._
I remember reading somewhere that Nagash’s tomb in the age of Sigmar looked a bit like a massive, mountain-sized Cairn. It’s stones were supposedly weighed down by the sheer magnitude of atrocities he committed during his life, hence the “Tomb of Forgotten Moments,” since by the time the mortal realms came to be, his actions were looooong forgotten. The Chaos Gods were basically trying to guilt-trip him into insanity by sitting him in front of a screen and yelling “LOOK AT IT! LOOK HOW SHIT YOU ARE!” Little did they realize that Nagash not only learned nothing, he actively chided himself for not doing “better” in his past life and vowed to be _even fucking worse._
"Because this lich cannot do anything without being a prick about it." Nagash in a nutshell, also known as "A former human that is not only far more of a prick than the entire Skaven race, but even makes the Skaven help other races without the intention of backstabbing them later on".
Thank you, I loved reading the Black Library series from the Warhammer money pit. Like I kind of empathized with him on some small things. But that was quickly overtaken by him being an asshole and doing some cool if not heinous shit. Which in itself is awesome. So thank you for covering my favorite faction in the best way you know how.
I love how Nagash can never get a win, yet he still persists in fcking everything up. Fav character for sure xD. Also relation between skaven and Nagash is peak comedy, we need more of that
Yeah when he forgetting about Skaven several times making me hysterically laughing. This talking skeleton necromancer trying to win but forgetting about rats screwing him big time))
I have no idea who any of these people are, but your story telling is so sarcastic that it actually fills in all the necessary detail and is just damn fun to listen too. Dunno how you pulled it off, but miracles happen at x2 speed 👍
Had to pause at 3:10 minutes because I never thought a video about Nagash would help me realize the Sundering is basically the Horus Heresy but fantasy.
Just found your channel yesterday and have been binge watching “Do or Don’t” for both fantasy (which I was always curious about) and 40k. Are you gonna do a vid about Blood Angels? I’m ready for my army of pretty vampires to get shit on lol
I’ve considered doing subarmies like that for Do or Don’t and as of right now the answer is “Yes, but I’m doing main armies first.” For instance, with the Space Marines it’ll be Do or Don’t: Space Marines first, and then later on I’ll eventually get to the ultramarines, blood angels, etc. etc. those will likely be more lore focused since subfactions are just a variation of the main faction, but I’ll still give those kind of armies the full treatment eventually. That being said it’s a ways off, since I plan on doing EVERY army for both AoS and 40K. Plus, once I upgrade my computer, you can be damn sure there’s gonna be more Do or Don’t: Total Warhammer.
Yeah, even though I don't really find his rise to power all that compelling or believable. Somehow a random ass human is able to accomplish with just a bit of dark magic bullsh*t he learned from random ass dark elves what no other human magic user couldn't do even a fraction of what he did and even then without blowing themselves up or going crazy (to the point of being utterly ineffectual) or mutated into something horrible and other dangers were told comes with dark magic, a mere human doing magic way better than freakin elves, seriously!? Honestly it just seems like plot contrivances in how Nagash manage to survive as long as he did and especially in him acquiring more power without going nuts (well to the point of again being ineffectual) because of bullsh*t like "willpower" which is basically DEUS EX MACHINA, never cared for this whole trying to put a measuring stick on something as vague as willpower.
@@navilluscire2567 Agreed. Nagash after he becomes a lich is a cool character, "genius lich leveraging magic genius, no morals, and time for power" is sweet. No one believing he's entirely dead, and his corruption/influence of necromancy are good lore throughout too. How he got to lichdom and his later power vs defeats are pretty dumb though.
@@johnstonefield1935 Now...don't get me wrong. I LOVE me a good ole'unapologetic HUGE DICK of a villain and Nagash is the embodiment of *"sorry but NOT sorry"* which is to say I enjoy seeing what wacky, despicable, evil thing hell come up with next in the cracked boney head of his. It is just...yeah he got to were he was because of sheer luck and generous amounts of writer favoritism (can be applied to alot of characters..), and I'm thankful to *Raynald* for that!
@@johnstonefield1935 Disagree. His trilogy fleshes his rise to power out in excrutiatingly detail, including his eventual mastery of the winds of magic. All of which is not only believable written, but also far from any "because plot demands it" tropes.
@@navilluscire2567 the emperor in 40k is like that but they didn't even come up with a real reason because they were like "heh, if we give them some random speculations they'll just assume we came up with some ideas so we never have to actually answer it"
you know sure he's an undead abomination of a god that loses all the time, but he did start out as a dude who got screwed over by fate, and then proceeded to to abuse his negative luck values to win at unlife.
Finally someone makes lore content funny, interesting and presents it in a way that summarizes everything important and gives a good overview. And the cherry on top combines it with his warscroll. Well done
Gotta love how now a days every villain in fiction needs to be some form of a tragic/relatable person, yet when you get older you realize that life has various flavors of Nagash-style villainy.
Nagash is quite the character, though I wish the death faction in AoS didn't revolve entirely around him. I feel like the concept of death and every culture's afterlife is far bigger than him, but anything that comes out for death has to be tied to nagash in some way. None of the other grand alliances have that kind of narrative chain, even chaos has plenty of figureheads.
@@MarkMark-kj9xp That's kinda the problem though? He ate all the other potential death leaders meaning nothing death related happens without old skelly Nagash himself being behind it.
The problem as others have mentioned is that well…Nagash usurped all the other Death Gods. Maybe if Settra made a return, but he’s too busy being a one man army in the Realms Of Chaos. Yes, I refuse to believe Settra is truly gone
The guy who out-Skavened the Skaven in every sense of the term. If that doesn't tell you how horrifically, freakishly monstrous he is, I don't know what will.
Great vid! Just found your channel. Subscribed! When the Khemri (aka Tomb Kings) armies were discontinued, I was disappointed because they had some of the coolest warmachines and the aesthetic of their army was awesome. But then we got the Ossiarch Bonereapers and they are so fantastic that even the basic troops (the Mortek Guard) are awesome. The warmachines (particularly the catapult crawlers) are incredible in detail. Say what you will about GW in general, they've put out a brilliant successor to the Tomb Kings armies.
I now have the need of a Warhammer Age of Sigmar sitcom serie about Sigmar and Nagash as roommates where they constantly troll each other in a sort of “I only tolerate you because I need help with chaos/rent” relationship
Nagash has been my favorite aspect of Warhammer since I learned of him, long ago even when he only had that one miniature that represented him. And even then, with all the haters of that figure, I loved it. Giant skeleton man with necromancy go brrrrrr.
If you wrote the script for this, you should be in comedy. The jokes were funny, the actual information stuff was interesting and ALL of it was doled out with a tempo that was perfect for the material. Well done!
Nagash is like a boomerang... It doesn't matter how far beyond death you toss him, he will always come back to reenact the "Are you sure about that?" meme 😂😂😂
Who knew being a necromancer is so op, you can raise from the death any enemy that falls, and if you die you can just say "no" and continue on. And you could probably bring back dinosaurs, how cool is that?
I love that for a while Sigmar and Nagash had a Goku/Vegeta relationship going on. "Hey Nagash, need help with Chaos?" "Shut the hell up Sigmar, I got this!" _five minutes later_ "Need help now?" "...yes."
Funny enough, from a tactical perspective, if a Pyramid is suspended, it best serves to be suspended upside down. Presuming you have sight lines, an inverted pyramid would give sight directly below, just as a grounded pyramid being right side up gives good picture while on the ground.
Is anyone actually surprised Nagash doesn't learn from his screwups? For Nagash to learn from his screwups, he would have to admit he's capable of making mistakes. Since when has Nagash ever had an ounce of humility? Or Humanity?
so basically nagash is that one guy where Every skaven clan ALL OF THEM, all agree to unite and ally with their enemies just to screw him over. at this point i dont think they are afraid of him they find it too funny not to go blow up his schemes
I really like mind games and bluffing in my games, so that *“hand of im about to bust”* Is very appealing to me. I wish there was more of that in other armies. (There might be and I just don’t know about it though)
Pinned comment is no funny joke, the playable Nagash faction mod for Total Warhammer II was released a few days ago and you should go play it right goddamn now. Literally as I was making the video I went “I wonder if it’s up and running yet.”
Such is the power of Nagash.
I guess nagash really will Nash everybody till he has no BODY to play with! Get it? Cause he's a skele- *I'll see myself out*
Speaking of which, do you plan on doing another Do or Don’t for total war? I loved the Khorne one
This lets you play every flavour corpse tarpits, cause what's unlife without terrain coordinating your disposable minions.
I’m so glad you do these kind of videos. You should do videos like left 4 dead , dead by daylight, and so on. Also your voice is fantastic. In fact, would you rather ride a bike with joe Biden or fight the nagash faction?
HOOOOLY SHIT THE NECRONS HAVE A TITAN ON FORGE-WORLD
It looks amazing in my *humble* opinion, almost like they tried to make a small Covenant Scarab based off of the Tyrranid Hierophant
Which shouldn't make it look like a Scarab maybe but then again the actual scarab might be a little too beefy for the Necron aesthetic.
I really want the Halo Infinite campaign to be expanded so we can climb aboard a Scarab again.
"How bad could he possibly be?"
"The Skaven helped a human stop him"
"My God"
exactly yes-yes
If I recall Manfred saved the King of Bretonnia by killing Festus.
@@spoof6023 Festus was killed by Vlad, but only after he killed Louen
Seriously
You know you're an evil person when an entire race of cunning rat engineers helps the good guy stop you
Nagash's story in a nutshell:
"Were you killed?"
"Sadly yes, but I lived"
Daah i love buck he's such a fun character.
There is a line in the Babylon 5 series when Sheridan returns from Z'ha'dum. "Captain were sorry we thought you were dead" and Sheridan responds "I was...I'm better now". Reminds me of Nagash, only he says it over and over and over again, lol.
@@scottperry7311 never watched Babylon 5 if I ever do now I have something to keep an eye out for. 👍
"You really thought killing me would kill me?"
@@Never_heart Anos Voldigoad, is that you?
Poor Nagash literally only loses because his goals are too high stakes for the plot
Orks during the war of the beast: *"first time?"*
Well, he is responsible for the creation of he undead and managed to ascend to godhood. That has to count for something.
That just means that when he's finally allowed to succeed it's gonna be another lore pillar
Ah yes big stupid hats very important
Excepto when he won.
The war between Skavendom, and Nagash in a nutshell
Nagash: "There has to be an end to them, there HAS to be."
Skaven: "There has to be an end to them, there HAS to be."
Narrator: "There was, in fact, no end to them."
@@henryviiifake8244 Said by Morgan Freeman.
The horrible fate of two hoard armies duking it out
The Soviet Union vs Comunist China.
It's even better than that, Nagash pushed them back all the way to Skavenblight and was only pushed back again when the Skaven invented the Warpfire Thrower. That and a few other inventions saved the skaven from total annihilation. I have come up with an ideal while writing this that one of those may have been the skaven just flat out removing women's rights. It has no basis in anything, but it would be interesting.
"The first time someone tried to contact him, he magically strangled them from a continent away." That's all I need to know. I love this bastard
Same XD
If it was that guy from the extended car insurance warranty I would have done the same thing
@@JD-bk4zi I'm sure we all would.
To be fair - said summoner (one of Neferata’s traitorous courtiers) thought he was calling Nagash back from the beyond so likely thought he would have some degree of control over him. If I got a phone call from a stranger with an attitude implying I should do what they say, I’d probably react similarly - “ex-fucking-scuse you?!”
So like a Darth Vader situation--
This guy's power creep isn't a hill. it's a fucking rocket.
A rocket periodically interrupted by magical rat boys with guns.
@@henryviiifake8244 lamo
id say its like that explosive fuelled rocket that shot up in sudden bursts but is prone to exploding
That sounds about right.@@atomicbuttocks
FR. it goes from "i want to be the ruler of my kingdom so i'm going to kill my brother" to "i'm going to raise every single dead person in existence to be my slave"
"At one point he died, but he decided dying was cringe so he just possessed his body and kept on walking." This is the most necromancer thing anyone has ever done or thought of.
"Raises every corpse on the planet. All of them." I stand corrected.
Literally dave Miller
Raising all the dead is like standard necromancer bbeg, necromancing your own body to just say fuck you to death is original
@@albertlofling7310 in my mind, a human who necromancies themselves is pretty common. It’s like a “Lich”, a lot of Lich turned themselves because they were once powerful wizards.
@@RussiaDaily no see a lich just locks part of their soul away.
Dying and pupeteering your own body is different
@@albertlofling7310 plus a Lich sets all that up before they die, not die and while a ghost go "I don't think I will" and go back to living.
Anyone powerful enough to give Skaven the "honesty" debuff is the definition of _built different._ 🥶
My favorite thing about Nagash is that his bonehat is almost as tall as his chest (depends of the Image).
He may be the God of death, but he and the pope have their priorities right.
Them and the Dawi-Zharr truly understand the importance of a good hat.
@@thegamingweeaboo6288 In Zharr’s case I have seen some redesigns were his hat is literally taller than him.
He will sacrifice many, but not his drip. #respecc
So will the TF2 Mercs attempt to steal it?
@@guywholikesmemes4993 mortals you're drip is cring.
Nagash: "I've exhausted every evil plan in my arsenal, from A to Y."
Arkhan: "A to Y?"
Nagash: "Yeah you know, A to Y, the alphabet."
Arkhan: "What about Z?"
Nagash: "Z?"
Arkhan: "Yes, Z, the letter after Y."
Nagash: "W, X, Y... Z! PLAN Z, HERE IT IS! JUST LIKE YOU SAID!"
Arkhan: "Oh boy..."
Nagash: "Oh... OH... It's EVIL! It's DIABOLICAL! It's LEMON SCENTED! THIS PLAN Z CAN'T POSSIBLY FAIL!"
- Famous conversation between Nagash 'Skelepope' the Undying and Arkan the Black, shortly before the End Times
Skylanders, a man of culture.
Theres also Å, Ä and Ö, so plenty to work with.
@@TheSycotik And we haven’t even gotten to Cyrillic
It is evil. It is so evil. It is a bad bad plan that will hurt many people that are good. I think it's great because it's so bad.
I'm gonna watch the SpongeBob movie again. Thanks for reminding me that perfect peace of media exist
"Kinda like moses but evil" broke me into laughter for no particular reason, and for an unnerving amount of time
Because the idea of moses but even more evil is horrifying?
@@MouldMadeMindnagesh probably parted a river of blood and bones just to drown everyone.
@@jonathanathor117 and moses turn all the water in egypt into filthy blood that kills all the fish, forcing the egyptian to dig for or dehydrate.
You can hardly beat bible characters in the evil game.
@@jonathanathor117 And turned them all into his undead slaves right after.
Arousing
Fun Fact about how assholish Nagash is, if I remember rightly during the Age of Chaos where Chaos took over almost 100% of the Mortal Realms the lives of folks who lived in Shyish actually go noticeably BETTER. That's right it's legitimately better to submit to Chaos than it is to live under Nagash.
Holy shit
At least with Chaos there's a chance of advancement.and better life.
well, nurgle does genuinely care for his followers
But where's the fun in that?
Well, at least tzentch allows for advancement in society and new technology- sure you may be insane but now you have some decent standard of living
I like to think that when Nagash decided to relax and move his black pyramid he was thinking to himself "This time my plan is full proof. No prisoners for the Skaven to use and give warpstone knives too" then all he hears is the distant sound of Ikit laughing as his nukes go off in the pyramid
You're standing on a hill watching Nagash's pyramid float through the air. You hear a rat like giggle and watch the pyramid explode in itty bitty bits. While the sound of the big kaboom fades the sound of a very pissed off Nagash keeps increasing in intensity. It sounds like a gigantic FUCKING RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATS
Nagash is nice change of pace in villainy, at least in today's fiction. Everything today is "No one is a good guy, everyone and everything is gray! There is no real good and evil!!" And he comes in and just says "Hello I'm here for your bones and I'm not asking." We need more of that.
Nagash is the Chaos God of sociopathy. The one even Malal doesn't want to talk about
I take OP's point. Complexity and nuance for an escapist hobby kinda muddies things up.
Villains acting like villains is not something we get every now and then. It's all 'We live in a society' shtick were getting with our bad guys.
Nuance and complexity certainly have their place, but sometimes you just want to see a big bad guy get kicked in the nuts by a paragon of justice.
@@redjirachi1 Nagesh🤝God emperor: undead skeleton pricks
Take note that Nagash was beaten because the Tomb King of Lhamia bought guns from Cathay so according to the Lore the dwarves could have beaten Nagash in a moment, so yes, the elves srewed It again
"Fucking elves!" - A dwarf with a grudge.
"You show me a WHF disaster, and I'll show you why it's the elves' fault"
-67% of the fanbase
@@Fire_of756 “a dwarf with a grudge” is very redundant indeed
THATS A GRUDGIN
“THIS IS GOING IN THE BOOK!”
~every Dwarf in existence
I would like to point the details to the NagashxMorathi storyline, because...it's frankly hilarious, and everyone who needs to hear about Morathi being humiliated will greatly enjoy it.
Basically, when Sigmar forged the Pantheon of Order out of the Incarnates and other entities of great power, Morathi got a ticket to the club, mostly so they could keep an eye on her. At this point in time, Morathi had an unpleasant time in the belly of Slaanesh and her "Big Snake" form was something she dealt with using illusions to look like the elves she always was.
The first line of work for Morathi was to find a new "puppet" to seduce and manipulate, like in the old times. Of course, she couldn't pull that on Tyrion, Teclis, Alarielle, or Malekith/Malerion who...well, had enough of her. Grimnir and Grugni were Dwarven Gods, so out of the question and let's not talk about Gorkamorka.
Only Sigmar and Nagash remained as candidates, so of course, Morathi chose our favorite Hammer God. Sigmar being Sigma, rejected Morathi's advances and propositions, fully aware of what she was capable of, so this Morathi ended up with no option but Nagash.
Nagash, being an absolute dick and Morathi deserving it, breaks her spell of illusion in front of the entire Pantheon, turning her from the beautiful Sorceress to a rage-fulled Medusae. As they look at her, horrified and disgusted, Morathi runs back to Ulgu, preparing her vengeance and her own ascension to Godhood.
i need to read/hear this in detail this is hilarious whats it from
@@azariel6669 It's shortly described in the First Edition Battletome for the Daughters of Khaine, but not in any worthwhile reading. It's pretty much brushed aside as the reason Morathi was not there when shit hit the fan in the Pantheon of Order.
@@farseeraradrel4808 shame but thanks for the clarification newbie to AOS myself
@@azariel6669 you're welcome
@@farseeraradrel4808 That made me laugh. At least Sigmar and Nagash aren't simps and I bet everyone in the Order pantheon knew Morathi's true form and just roll with it to troll with her.
Nagash seems like the type of guy to open up a blender box at target to see what’s inside and then ask the employees to bring him another one that isn’t opened
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Having read the Rise of Nagash trilogy, I can say that yes, he is *exactly* that type of guy.
Remember, kids: Nagash isn't a failure because he sucks, he's just following in the long tradition of boney supervillains who continually get pretty far with schemes to fuck shit up, get thwarted and have everything undone, only to come back for more the next week. Grandpa Skeletor would be proud.
Laughs in Ainz Ooal Gown
@@powerhouse6165 Say that name twice quickly and you probably summon an actual daemon
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50/50 says his plans get dicked over by some random ass ratmen.
@@ArctikToast HAIL NAZARICK THE SORCERER KINGDOM
Except with more ****** if you acknowledge AoS lore
I can just imagine Skaven saying to Alcadizaar “here here take warpstone dagger blade and stab kill bone hairless thing yes yes” and Alcadizaar just wondering what the hell was going on
You know someone is truly fucking evil when the Skaven become the good guys
Jack Horner would call him an irredeemable monster only for Nagash to subject him to a fate so awful that Puss would pity him. Not because he was angry at being called that, he was just bored hearing it literally more times than he could count
@accelerationquanta5816 When Nagash is in question, Yes there is.
only in PancreasNoWork would you hear "Nagash is kinda like mosses but evil"
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Nagash is just a sigma, skelefying all of Nehekara is just another rule of the grind set, only sigma(r)s can become gods in Warhammer
Settra the motherfucking imperishable is the only sigma in fantasy
@@PeachDragon_ he’s a gigachad
He even disrespects women. He has all the necessary qualities.
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Nagash made The skaven feel so afraid, that they didnt backstad their allies.
Goodnes gracious.
I imagine fighting Nagash is like hiding behind pillars and cowering. Because if you get into his sight you get fetus deletus'ed like a poor planet in front of a supernova.
"Nagash was weak, witness true power!" Yeah, good luck with that, Manny.
I had a friend who let me play his Nagash army, and he informed me about the lore of Nagash being an absolute dick head to everyone and everything. So, I decided to channel the dickish energy of Nagash myself with the hand of dust spell, and make it so they would always pick the wrong hand. The methods I used to achieved this varied from dice up the sleeves to pocketing the dice, and many many more methods are outright cheating because why play fair when Nagash wouldn't.
Nagash wouldn't even start the game, he'd probably just stab the opponent to win immediately.
""HAH' Nagot yah!!!"
Even though I sometimes despise playing against him. I approve of this
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1 dear god you would be miserable to play against. 2 I agree with you doing it
In the immortal words of Zee Bashew, If it was easy to kill a necromancer, you didn’t kill him.
Archaon the everchosen: *Defets Nagash in single combat*
Harry the Hammer: I raised that boy...
So basically, Nagash is the equivalent of Grim Dark Skeletor. Gets his ass kicked but always coming back
Always getting his ass kicked cuz of plot*
He is what we never get nowadays. Unapologetically evil.
@@nightlock826 Enough of these half-assed “Feel bad for these Bastards”, I want a dude who knows he’s bad and laughs because he just doesn’t care.
@@Predator20357 Yes the old comic book villain may be a meme but i actually think they are cool.
@@wrongix6544 I mean, you can make the tragic villain also a meme
“I may have wiped hundreds of people, murdered heroes and all, but I had a bad childhood!”
Nagash, the Epitome of "I'm a Jerk and everybody loves me!"
SpongeBob?
And if they don't hell make them *'love'* him.
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handsome jack is side by side with him
I always figured that even though Nagash was ridiculously powerful, he was still essentially a frail human. All that magic surging through him was a blessing and a curse. He wrote the books as a way to contain some of that magic in safely transportable batteries, accessible only to him as & when he needed it. This was of course well before he became the OG Bone Daddy we all know him as today
Nagash: "Oh, you're A villain all right, just not a super one."
Archaon: "What's the difference?"
Nagash: "Presentation!"
*Cannons fire confetti made from the shredded screaming remnants of damned souls...somehow.*
Look it’s Nagash, he undoubtedly found a (definitely horrific) way to do it!
@@khylerbane4523 Such is the power of Nagash.
You just see a fucking mountain of bones magically fly up and form a gigantic middle finger
"Oh you have an Army of the dead?"
Procedes to raise anything and anyone that has ever died
"We're Elves. We got this." - Famous last words.
"As it would turn out, the elves did not, in fact have it" -Narrarator
“Nice to see his treatment of women hasn’t changed.”
To be fair, if any female character deserved domestic abuse it was definitively Morathi.
Morathi-"Dude, trust me"-Khaine
Nagash probably wouldn't be too happy to hear the god of a certain race has gained a big ol power boost and is technically something of a chaos god himself
Nagash keeps underestimating Skaven.
Jimmy or morathi?
Bruh, Nagash wins more often then he loses. All villains do (well, almost all, look:) it's how a villain becomes a worthy enough threat to merit the heroes trying to stop them. The villain goes from successful plot, attack, battle, war whatever right up until the point where the people trying to stop them build up enough steam for that final climatic confrontation. At which point either the villain finally fails more than they can overcome, or wins and the story either has to end or the story continues because that wasn't truly the epic final confrontation was it?
Yeah Nagash loses, but if Nagash only lost he'd be called Mannfred von Carstein. Nope he's Nagash; because Nagash is a legend who gets shit done and the only things that can stop him are the stuff of legends in their own right.
Booooring
Hes like a really shitty abbadon, and abandon is already shitty
@@Si_Sireeni better than some whining bastich who had childhood problems. "oh im an asshole because everyone else was" i prefer "im an asshole because that's who i am"
That’s simply not true. He’s a significant threat if left unchecked, that’s why he always gets checked. But because of who he is, he keeps coming back, and then losing.
You don’t become the world biggest dickhead by winning more than losing. His win/lose rate is totally weighed into lose. That’s not to say he isn’t a threat though.
@@jimmymcgill2961 So you're argument is; if he didn't lose so much he would absolutely be a winner, therefore he's a loser. Did I get that right?
So what I am hearing is Nagash was more dangerous in the old world as a lich before the writers said "You aren't a proper god of the dead anymore".
The most based take and you understand the original lore and power compared to "age of general audiences"
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The fucking Hand of Nagash spell is the greatest thing I've ever learned, and I demand more spells with quirky rules like that
like what, didn't 40k Orks used to HAVE to shout WAAAGH in order for it to work? XD
Nagash is so edgy, he makes the chaos gods seem positively spherical in comparison.
(And by edgy, I mean the quiet kind in the back of class who always wears black and never shows up to gym class)
"positively spherical", Imma steal that ma dude...
I’d say more like the edgy kid who was probably planning on shooting up the school.
Then reanimating all his victims corpses to make them dab in front of their grieving loved ones.
Nagash isn’t so much edgy as he is a tumbleweed of barbed wire.
Nagash gives his PE teacher a note saying "I have no muscles" then leaves the gym.
@@MaSOneTwo 😂😂
At least the Chaos Gods didn't choose to be so evil they made Palpatine look like Valorum
I remember arkhan pissed him off once for failing and cursed him to be eaten by insects. Arkhan was immortal at the time so it was just constant unending pain.
Sometimes we want a villain with complex motives, is somewhat or actually sympathetic, and/or is tragic some way.
Other times, we want a villain who is straight up vile, malicious, and who is not just irredeemably evil but also absolutely revels in it.
Both are valid options, especially when done right. I think Nagash is an example of the latter done right. Especially given his malicious creativity when it comes to all the villainous things he’s done.
Legitimately difficult to consider a villain in any fiction more evil than Nagash
He's Gul'dan levels of "Jerk". Except instead of consorting with demons, he's a power hungry Necromancer.
Except he was way more succesful than any Warcraft villain
Also, wasn't Gul'gan a necromancer too (He created the first death knigts)?
@@user-unos111 Pretty sure that was Ner'zhul.
@@user-unos111 I mean yeah and no. He's a warlock. So pretty much all kinds of dark magic (from demon summoning to soul sucking) is in his repertoire. But mostly he does dark rituals. Demon binding and portals and all that.
I really need a Warcraft + Warhammer Fantasy crossover. It's too rare to be found
I'd say Nagash is leagues worse than Gul'dan. Gul'dan was a massive douche who had a habit of betraying and fucking people over in all sorts of torturous ways, but he acted like it more pragmatically instead of just for shits and giggles.
Nagash, on the other hand, did all sorts of incredibly, horrifically fucked-up shit, _simply because he could._
I remember reading somewhere that Nagash’s tomb in the age of Sigmar looked a bit like a massive, mountain-sized Cairn. It’s stones were supposedly weighed down by the sheer magnitude of atrocities he committed during his life, hence the “Tomb of Forgotten Moments,” since by the time the mortal realms came to be, his actions were looooong forgotten.
The Chaos Gods were basically trying to guilt-trip him into insanity by sitting him in front of a screen and yelling “LOOK AT IT! LOOK HOW SHIT YOU ARE!”
Little did they realize that Nagash not only learned nothing, he actively chided himself for not doing “better” in his past life and vowed to be _even fucking worse._
Look he knows he is just THE worst, problem is he also knows there is room to improve on that front
“At one point he died, but decided dying is cringe, and kept on walking” bruh this got me rolling XD
"Because this lich cannot do anything without being a prick about it."
Nagash in a nutshell, also known as "A former human that is not only far more of a prick than the entire Skaven race, but even makes the Skaven help other races without the intention of backstabbing them later on".
Thank you, I loved reading the Black Library series from the Warhammer money pit. Like I kind of empathized with him on some small things. But that was quickly overtaken by him being an asshole and doing some cool if not heinous shit. Which in itself is awesome. So thank you for covering my favorite faction in the best way you know how.
"Nagash wants to Nash your ass"
-His lore in a nutshell
My favorite bit of Warhammer lore is when Nagash said “it’s Nagashing time” and Nagashed all over Nehekhara.
@@pancreasnowork9939 b r u h
@@pancreasnowork9939 truly one of the moments of all time!
I love how Nagash can never get a win, yet he still persists in fcking everything up. Fav character for sure xD. Also relation between skaven and Nagash is peak comedy, we need more of that
Yeah when he forgetting about Skaven several times making me hysterically laughing. This talking skeleton necromancer trying to win but forgetting about rats screwing him big time))
It's nice to see more AOS/Fantasy videos
I feel you could make a pretty funny meme out of “oh boy, I wonder what race of people could’ve done that!”
I have no idea who any of these people are, but your story telling is so sarcastic that it actually fills in all the necessary detail and is just damn fun to listen too. Dunno how you pulled it off, but miracles happen at x2 speed 👍
Had to pause at 3:10 minutes because I never thought a video about Nagash would help me realize the Sundering is basically the Horus Heresy but fantasy.
Holy… shit
Just found your channel yesterday and have been binge watching “Do or Don’t” for both fantasy (which I was always curious about) and 40k. Are you gonna do a vid about Blood Angels? I’m ready for my army of pretty vampires to get shit on lol
I've read over 60 WH fantasy books so it was nice finding him for that. Finally learned about 40K because it's hard not to find content on it.
Yeah man the most popular red popsicle flavour of space marine needs more fuckin attention
I’ve considered doing subarmies like that for Do or Don’t and as of right now the answer is “Yes, but I’m doing main armies first.”
For instance, with the Space Marines it’ll be Do or Don’t: Space Marines first, and then later on I’ll eventually get to the ultramarines, blood angels, etc. etc. those will likely be more lore focused since subfactions are just a variation of the main faction, but I’ll still give those kind of armies the full treatment eventually.
That being said it’s a ways off, since I plan on doing EVERY army for both AoS and 40K. Plus, once I upgrade my computer, you can be damn sure there’s gonna be more Do or Don’t: Total Warhammer.
This jerk is my favorite fantasy character started out as just a dude and basically becomes the God of undeath
Yeah, even though I don't really find his rise to power all that compelling or believable. Somehow a random ass human is able to accomplish with just a bit of dark magic bullsh*t he learned from random ass dark elves what no other human magic user couldn't do even a fraction of what he did and even then without blowing themselves up or going crazy (to the point of being utterly ineffectual) or mutated into something horrible and other dangers were told comes with dark magic, a mere human doing magic way better than freakin elves, seriously!?
Honestly it just seems like plot contrivances in how Nagash manage to survive as long as he did and especially in him acquiring more power without going nuts (well to the point of again being ineffectual) because of bullsh*t like "willpower" which is basically DEUS EX MACHINA, never cared for this whole trying to put a measuring stick on something as vague as willpower.
@@navilluscire2567 Agreed. Nagash after he becomes a lich is a cool character, "genius lich leveraging magic genius, no morals, and time for power" is sweet. No one believing he's entirely dead, and his corruption/influence of necromancy are good lore throughout too. How he got to lichdom and his later power vs defeats are pretty dumb though.
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Now...don't get me wrong. I LOVE me a good ole'unapologetic HUGE DICK of a villain and Nagash is the embodiment of *"sorry but NOT sorry"* which is to say I enjoy seeing what wacky, despicable, evil thing hell come up with next in the cracked boney head of his. It is just...yeah he got to were he was because of sheer luck and generous amounts of writer favoritism (can be applied to alot of characters..), and I'm thankful to *Raynald* for that!
@@johnstonefield1935 Disagree. His trilogy fleshes his rise to power out in excrutiatingly detail, including his eventual mastery of the winds of magic. All of which is not only believable written, but also far from any "because plot demands it" tropes.
@@navilluscire2567 the emperor in 40k is like that but they didn't even come up with a real reason because they were like "heh, if we give them some random speculations they'll just assume we came up with some ideas so we never have to actually answer it"
you know sure he's an undead abomination of a god that loses all the time, but he did start out as a dude who got screwed over by fate, and then proceeded to to abuse his negative luck values to win at unlife.
I imagine nagash has his own book of grudges that just says everyone currently alive and not feeding me power.
Finally someone makes lore content funny, interesting and presents it in a way that summarizes everything important and gives a good overview. And the cherry on top combines it with his warscroll. Well done
Nagash's overall history consists of the following: Nagash is being a dick, and even Archaon's BS plot armor couldn't get rid of him.
Gotta love how now a days every villain in fiction needs to be some form of a tragic/relatable person, yet when you get older you realize that life has various flavors of Nagash-style villainy.
18:55 I was 100% expecting a Princess Bride reference here, you even did like, the whole bit; this was a complete aversion of expectations.
Nagash is quite the character, though I wish the death faction in AoS didn't revolve entirely around him. I feel like the concept of death and every culture's afterlife is far bigger than him, but anything that comes out for death has to be tied to nagash in some way.
None of the other grand alliances have that kind of narrative chain, even chaos has plenty of figureheads.
Well there were other death gods but he ate them. Hope that clears things up, such is the power of Nagash.
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That's kinda the problem though? He ate all the other potential death leaders meaning nothing death related happens without old skelly Nagash himself being behind it.
That's nagash for you. He will literally die (again, again, again) unless he is the constant center of attention
i think it’s mainly because he hijacked all the other ideas of death
The problem as others have mentioned is that well…Nagash usurped all the other Death Gods.
Maybe if Settra made a return, but he’s too busy being a one man army in the Realms Of Chaos. Yes, I refuse to believe Settra is truly gone
"You're not gonna shoot a puppy are you Nagash?
"Yeah in the face, why?"
Nagash in a nutshell.
The guy who out-Skavened the Skaven in every sense of the term. If that doesn't tell you how horrifically, freakishly monstrous he is, I don't know what will.
Great vid! Just found your channel. Subscribed!
When the Khemri (aka Tomb Kings) armies were discontinued, I was disappointed because they had some of the coolest warmachines and the aesthetic of their army was awesome. But then we got the Ossiarch Bonereapers and they are so fantastic that even the basic troops (the Mortek Guard) are awesome. The warmachines (particularly the catapult crawlers) are incredible in detail. Say what you will about GW in general, they've put out a brilliant successor to the Tomb Kings armies.
I need a video like this for Gotrek so badly. Love this format
"My axe thirsts manling."
This; id love a gotrek and felix video
I now have the need of a Warhammer Age of Sigmar sitcom serie about Sigmar and Nagash as roommates where they constantly troll each other in a sort of “I only tolerate you because I need help with chaos/rent” relationship
"Jerk" is being too nice for Nagash.
Nagash has been my favorite aspect of Warhammer since I learned of him, long ago even when he only had that one miniature that represented him. And even then, with all the haters of that figure, I loved it. Giant skeleton man with necromancy go brrrrrr.
"Settra does not serve!" -Et Settra
"Then Settra does not exist." -Nagash
Kind of Like a King and a Emperor Situation
If you wrote the script for this, you should be in comedy. The jokes were funny, the actual information stuff was interesting and ALL of it was doled out with a tempo that was perfect for the material. Well done!
Nagash is like a boomerang... It doesn't matter how far beyond death you toss him, he will always come back to reenact the "Are you sure about that?" meme 😂😂😂
I love how you always use Age of Mythology calm music to introduce your subject.
As a WH fan that exclusively works not was interested in 40k I’m glad I came on your channel. It’s sent me down the fantasy route and I’m loving it.
Who knew being a necromancer is so op, you can raise from the death any enemy that falls, and if you die you can just say "no" and continue on. And you could probably bring back dinosaurs, how cool is that?
"Why did you do any of this?"
"Because you see... I'm a prick!"
I love that for a while Sigmar and Nagash had a Goku/Vegeta relationship going on.
"Hey Nagash, need help with Chaos?"
"Shut the hell up Sigmar, I got this!"
_five minutes later_
"Need help now?"
"...yes."
Absolutely love the whfb and aos videos! Especially character bios like this! Id love to see more
Love all of your videos. Love the dry humor and overall dictation. Keep it up my dude.
Funny enough, from a tactical perspective, if a Pyramid is suspended, it best serves to be suspended upside down. Presuming you have sight lines, an inverted pyramid would give sight directly below, just as a grounded pyramid being right side up gives good picture while on the ground.
"Malekith and his dommy mommy threw a hissy fit powerful enough to destabilize nations."
Wow. An incredible series of words.
The hand rule is so amazing. That flavor is why Warhammer is the best. Great video.
Nagash is not a sociopath
Being a sociopath is being Nagash-like
Thanks for the video! FIrst video about Warhammer taht I watched and I liked it. Love the way you tell a story!
Alcadizaar: Was I a good King of Nehekara?
Settra: No. You were the second best.
Only Settra could be that arrogant while being humble.
When Nagash ascended to Godhood
Chaos Gods: HEHEH, I’m in danger!
Usirian: FUCK-
Is anyone actually surprised Nagash doesn't learn from his screwups? For Nagash to learn from his screwups, he would have to admit he's capable of making mistakes. Since when has Nagash ever had an ounce of humility? Or Humanity?
Love the age of mythology music in the background
Nostalgia hits hard
Got give it to him he’s a self made badass unlike Archeaon who has 4 sugar daddies giving him juice.
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I have learned more from you than all of the black library books I've read
The "Kinda like Moses but Evil" line fucking killed me hahaha
that age of mythology egypt music hits hard when you consider both sides can make horrifying chimaeras made with magic fight for you.
so basically nagash is that one guy where Every skaven clan ALL OF THEM, all agree to unite and ally with their enemies just to screw him over. at this point i dont think they are afraid of him they find it too funny not to go blow up his schemes
The music dude, can we appreciate your choice of music in these videos for a second? I loved Age of Mythology so much and just got a kick of nostalgia
I really like mind games and bluffing in my games, so that *“hand of im about to bust”* Is very appealing to me. I wish there was more of that in other armies. (There might be and I just don’t know about it though)
S Tier Warhammer lore? Amazing.
S Tier Warhammer lore set to the soundtrack to the greatest game of all time? Priceless.
"It turned out that Dio was not actually dead" ~ Viva Reverie
"And now Nagash was definitely gone. For certain, absolutely, definitely gone."
Ad for Call of Duty featuring Peter Stormare: _"I'M BACK!"_
This video just confirms that Pancreas has been watching the new season of Overlord and was inspired to make this video.
**CGM ringing off in the background**
I feel you, man.