Gods of Warhammer - The Old Gods

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    Ulric, Taal, Rhya, Manann and Morr. The Big 5. Kinda.
    0:00 - Intro
    1:27 - Brilliant Sponsorship
    3:28 - Ulric
    10:02 - Taal and Rhya
    15:22 - Manann
    18:43 - Morr
    21:55 - The Great Catastrohpe
    26:12 - Conclusion
    27:41 - Impregnate
    Music:
    FTL: Faster Than Light - Space Cruise
    Age of Mythology: Eat Your Potatoes, Flavor Cats, Slaysenflite, Hoping for Real Betterness, The Ballad of Ace Lebaron, In A Pile of its Own Good, Chocolate Potatoes
    Age of Empires II - Track 5
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  • @pancreasnowork9939
    @pancreasnowork9939  2 місяці тому +58

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  • @xekon14
    @xekon14 2 місяці тому +927

    “It’s like the flame of Asyruan, but wolfier” lore has officially peaked

    • @d.n5287
      @d.n5287 2 місяці тому +24

      Oh no, the flame of Asuryan got space wolf'd

  • @captaintitus4637
    @captaintitus4637 2 місяці тому +1259

    Virgin emperor: even though the galaxy is on fire everything is going just as planned vs chad ulric: apply hammer to chaos skull

    • @rexross4847
      @rexross4847 2 місяці тому +68

      be honest with yourself the chaddest of all the gods is the maw...

    • @leohoffa
      @leohoffa 2 місяці тому +53

      Well acthually Ulric's holy weapon is an axe, Bliztbeil, and not a hammer ☝️🤓

    • @The_fallen_hero
      @The_fallen_hero 2 місяці тому +18

      @@rexross4847forget fight, just eat

    • @DogseatDogs
      @DogseatDogs 2 місяці тому +22

      The Emperor and Malcador: literally admit their plan failed and they need to change a lot before dying with low chance of success.
      Average fans: Hehe emperor still claims all according to keikaku.

    • @DogseatDogs
      @DogseatDogs 2 місяці тому +14

      ​@@leohoffaWhat did you expect from people who only learn lore through memes.

  • @Brainflayer
    @Brainflayer 2 місяці тому +309

    I like to imagine that in Age of Sigmar, Ulric's retired in Azyr and sits around like a grandfather, either shit-talking Sigmar for not getting out there and fighting Chaos hand-to-hand like a real warrior or screaming "THAT'S MY BOY" whenever Sigmar does anything good.

    • @darkyuraptor3315
      @darkyuraptor3315 2 місяці тому +35

      I like this too, but it would seem far more likely that Ulric just decided to not care about the world after the endtimes (writers didn't care about him)

  • @RSBurgener
    @RSBurgener 2 місяці тому +233

    You'll never convince me that Morr isn't real. I gave up Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, but you're not taking Morr from me.

    • @BelligerentPenguin
      @BelligerentPenguin 2 місяці тому +33

      What Morr can be taken from you?
      I'll leave now...

    • @RSBurgener
      @RSBurgener 2 місяці тому +10

      😄...what indeed? My fellow disciple said famously in 1981 "we've nothing left but faith". I think that's because back then, just like now, price increases have taken everything else.

    • @aLukepop
      @aLukepop 2 місяці тому +13

      Morr is my favourite warhammer god. Yeah he's a bit dour and serious but he's just a good guy. I love him. Plus his knights have gorgeous armour.

    • @nedreow3722
      @nedreow3722 2 місяці тому +11

      Have you ever seen any undead irl? No? That's how you know Morr is real

    • @Bob-bs9ok
      @Bob-bs9ok Місяць тому +3

      That's the spirit of religion!

  • @tomwarren5580
    @tomwarren5580 2 місяці тому +392

    Hey Morr's temples are always finely decorated. Its just that all the decorations are always made of skulls

    • @wetzel4806
      @wetzel4806 2 місяці тому +33

      I wonder if they made him a throne, a particularly skullly throne.

    • @JagdWehrwolf
      @JagdWehrwolf 2 місяці тому +32

      Don't be like that. What about wreaths, roses and crows?

    • @banzaiperson
      @banzaiperson 2 місяці тому +1

      So what you’re saying is that they’re not decorated by the standards of Warhammer Fantasy?

  • @luigisuper4143
    @luigisuper4143 2 місяці тому +221

    Morr is so cool. Morrslieb is called that because Morr is said to have destroyed one of the Chaos gates and thus created the dark moon, saving the world in the process.

    • @letendreelliott8778
      @letendreelliott8778 2 місяці тому +65

      Good/Neutral gods of death are always more interesting than evil ones (though Nagash isn’t boring either)

    • @josecoronadonieto6911
      @josecoronadonieto6911 2 місяці тому +37

      Morr has a chivalric army in his honor, they patrol the eastern empire krumping undead left right and center.

    • @luigisuper4143
      @luigisuper4143 2 місяці тому +25

      ​@@josecoronadonieto6911He has multiple knightly orders, like the Black Guard, Knights of the Raven and Knights of the Black Rose.

    • @TheCorrodedMan
      @TheCorrodedMan 2 місяці тому +13

      @@letendreelliott8778he has several “Good” aspects in AOS. Bal-Nagash, the Black Child, is one of them. He’s a child formed of black mist who visits mothers and children on their deathbeds to grant them comfort before their passings. We meet him in soul wars when Nagash drops in on him to check his progress, and finds that he’s currently comforting an expectant mother who just gave birth, but is dying of the plague alongside her child. I choose to believe that Bal-Nagash, as the compassionate part of Nagash, granted the woman a few more precious seconds of life to hold her baby for the first, and last, time.
      You’d expect something like that from Sigmar, or Allarielle, but nah. Nagash is the one who holds the hand of the trembling elder as he draws his final breath, the one who embraces the weeping mother as the body of her child is laid to rest, the one who points the way to peace while other gods focus simply on their living acolytes.

    • @ronanchristiana.belleza9270
      @ronanchristiana.belleza9270 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@TheCorrodedManwait Nagash has that?

  • @smoochiemcgoo2218
    @smoochiemcgoo2218 2 місяці тому +86

    Don't doubt yourself, Big Chungus dejectedly telling you times are tough is peak comedy.

  • @drigoleus1055
    @drigoleus1055 2 місяці тому +207

    Funnly enough there is a space wolves character called ulric the slayer
    He's like the reclusiarch

    • @windwind3170
      @windwind3170 2 місяці тому +28

      Ulric is a pretty common Old German/Scandinavian name.

  • @Rukdug
    @Rukdug 2 місяці тому +39

    I can just imagine that if Ulric and the other Old Gods did meet Grimnir while fighting daemons, it was probably by complete accident after Grimnir slayer leaped into a Bloodthirster right next to them and they just had a momentary pause to do the confused blinking gif at each other.

  • @Noblesix84
    @Noblesix84 2 місяці тому +94

    Lucky you Pancreas, we are getting a bit more Morr thanks to Elspeth.

  • @marrvynswillames4975
    @marrvynswillames4975 2 місяці тому +52

    Fun fact, in the first Fantasy Role-playing rulebook, Khaine was a human God and brother of Morr

  • @nerdyvids1
    @nerdyvids1 2 місяці тому +41

    GW never capitalizing on the opportunity to have Werewolf zealots within the empire’s territory is criminal.

    • @caseyjasey4446
      @caseyjasey4446 2 місяці тому +5

      powerwolf

    • @alonsogutierrez9500
      @alonsogutierrez9500 Місяць тому +2

      Flagellants who think they’re going to turn into wolves when they die. They take the carrion after battle being eaten by wolves as them reincarnating.

  • @tomwarren5580
    @tomwarren5580 2 місяці тому +401

    None of these gods can hope to compare with the one true god, Boingob.

  • @dropkickpiper3204
    @dropkickpiper3204 2 місяці тому +44

    Neat fact: in the Empire there’s some humans who worship Khaine. They do so mainly as assassins and they’re basically the Warhammer version of the Dark Brotherhood.

    • @g.sergiusfidenas6650
      @g.sergiusfidenas6650 2 місяці тому +1

      They do it under the same name or they have their own version like in Elder Scrolls? With the shared gods between the races having their own names and subtle and not so subtle differences depending of the POV of each race.

    • @dropkickpiper3204
      @dropkickpiper3204 2 місяці тому +7

      @@g.sergiusfidenas6650 There are some cases where the humans worship elf-like gods under different names. Mannan->Mathlann, Rhya->Isha, etc. but in Khaine’s case it’s the actual elven god. Now they do have some small differences in perception of him, but on the fundamental level it’s the same god.

    • @MelkorTolkien
      @MelkorTolkien 2 місяці тому

      ​@@dropkickpiper3204 More like Rhya + Shallya = Isha, but you are correct.

  • @nyxnox2135
    @nyxnox2135 2 місяці тому +556

    Humans be like "WE HAVE OUR OWN GODS!!!" and then have some of their oldest be called "Ishernos"
    This post was made by the Elven cult of Isha and Kurnous.

    • @delta9915
      @delta9915 2 місяці тому +67

      I'll have you know that Ishea and Karnos are totally distinct from Isha and Kurnous!

    • @Artemisarrowzz
      @Artemisarrowzz 2 місяці тому +57

      Ironically enough, the real life the elves didn't have their own pantheon until a while after 40k was created. So the elves actually copied the humans.

    • @MarkD5678
      @MarkD5678 2 місяці тому

      Silly landlubbers, the only real god you need to care about it Ma*coughcough*an

    • @spartanx9293
      @spartanx9293 2 місяці тому +1

      The issue being shallya is the closest human God to Isha She's the daughter of morr

    • @robrib2682
      @robrib2682 2 місяці тому +2

      isn't that cult in the Forest of Athel Lauren...
      When did y'all get Wi-Fi?
      Edit: please tell me that's not why you're so protective of the way stones

  • @riokollivier
    @riokollivier 2 місяці тому +182

    On the note of The Doom of Kavzar, in an AoS book, Skaven Battletome I think, the Tower of Kavzar is named dropped as where the Council of Thirteen meet.

    • @axios4702
      @axios4702 2 місяці тому +36

      It's also referenced in one of Thanquol's books where he talks about rumors that the great tower at the hearth of Skavenblight was actually made by humans and dwarfs, a rumor mostly considered heresy and slander, but Thanquol can see traces of their architecture in what little remains of it.

    • @minibotas9496
      @minibotas9496 2 місяці тому +7

      After watching the video about narrating skaven lore and The Doom of Kavzar, and seeing Skavenblight reeeeeallyup close in TW:WH 2 and 3, knowing that GW gives the last okay… the fact that the model of the Skaven capital had a screaming bell at the top of a very tall tower, alongside it’s a very dark swamp, made me head cannon that Skavenblight was Kavzar.

    • @ethanfox8979
      @ethanfox8979 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@minibotas9496I thought that just was the text. No need to head canon it.

    • @ChrisKCook
      @ChrisKCook 24 дні тому

      What about the rest of the Southern Gods other than Morr?

    • @riokollivier
      @riokollivier 24 дні тому

      @@ChrisKCook Pancreas said that this would be the first in the series discussing the gods of Warhammer. So they’ll get touched upon later.

  • @Le-cp9tr
    @Le-cp9tr 2 місяці тому +30

    Elves, Lizardmen and Tomb Kings when some Reiklander calls one of their “gods” old:

  • @MrNetWraith
    @MrNetWraith 2 місяці тому +22

    It's funny that despite the fact Ulric's been around since the literal birth of Warhammer lore in 3e, the only time we got the Warrior Priest of Ulric as a Hero unit in the Empire Army was in 6e - first in White Dwarf in 2006, then in the Storm of Chaos book. I mean, okay, it wasn't the best Hero; it was literally the original 6e Warrior Priest of Sigmar with the prayers swapped out for prayers that can be used to "grant a unit Immune to Psychology", "grant a unit +d3 inches when charging", "do a S4 hit to all enemies in base contact with the priest" and "inflict a -1 to hit debuff on an enemy unit", which are of somewhat questionable utility compared to the Sigmarite priest's prayers, but they could have tried giving them some better prayers in 7e and 8e!

  • @iainhansen1047
    @iainhansen1047 2 місяці тому +107

    The humans nature gods literally being just the elf ones is so fucking funny

    • @TheCoCAmbassador
      @TheCoCAmbassador 2 місяці тому +22

      Look, If there is already a pantheon of perfectly serviceable gods, why not use some of them in your own?

    • @Aceshot-uu7yx
      @Aceshot-uu7yx 2 місяці тому +33

      ​@@TheCoCAmbassadorEveryone in the general vicinity of the Mediteranian.

    • @thesittingacheroraptor7565
      @thesittingacheroraptor7565 2 місяці тому +28

      "Hey isha, why are we getting worshiped by humans?"
      "Idk man"

    • @ronanchristiana.belleza9270
      @ronanchristiana.belleza9270 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@thesittingacheroraptor7565other elven god: just roll with it man the more the merrier

    • @vdate
      @vdate 2 місяці тому

      Look. Do I have to tell y'all to go read the ACOUP blog posts on ancient religion? (Not a 'read a book' putdown, either; they're written by a fantasy enjoying history PhD and can serve as very good primers for How To Magic In Historically-Inspired Fantasy.
      More people should read 'em, is what I'm saying.)
      Extended aside notwithstanding, as I understand it a certain degree of syncretism and cultural diffusion of pantheons is expected for cultures living in close proximity for extended periods.

  • @atlantiswolf
    @atlantiswolf 2 місяці тому +242

    I would give praise to Mor, but I would never do something so heretical to risk angering my one true God, Nagash.

    • @wynnnnnnn5227
      @wynnnnnnn5227 2 місяці тому +10

      All things die. The flesh rots, bone decays. Metal rusts, stone erodes. Gods can be eaten and shattered.

    • @Kalnafein
      @Kalnafein 2 місяці тому +3

      Such is the Power of Nagash

    • @atlantiswolf
      @atlantiswolf 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Kalnafein The power to have Mortal Followers outside of his universe.

    • @diamondhamster4320
      @diamondhamster4320 2 місяці тому

      @@wynnnnnnn5227 Sigma Necron Grindset

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 2 місяці тому +15

    I will quote kirk for 40K: "what does god need with a starship?"

  • @zacharyhansen9103
    @zacharyhansen9103 2 місяці тому +17

    That end credit joke flash-banged me harder than PancreasYouHadOneJob would flash/bang Teclis.

  • @thequietman5934
    @thequietman5934 2 місяці тому +134

    Ulric! Ursun! Sigmar! These three alone are worthy.

    • @Star_dragon8
      @Star_dragon8 2 місяці тому +23

      all hail bear god

    • @slaaneshshewhothirst9136
      @slaaneshshewhothirst9136 2 місяці тому +8

      Welp, you might have been put in a book of grudges of multiple gods my dear.

    • @DogseatDogs
      @DogseatDogs 2 місяці тому +8

      You forgot Myrmidia and Morr. Typical.

    • @thequietman5934
      @thequietman5934 2 місяці тому +2

      @@DogseatDogs I didn't forget. lol

    • @WarMonger_the-One-and-Only
      @WarMonger_the-One-and-Only 2 місяці тому +1

      Ursun literally got kidnapped by Be'lakor, the guy who has been taking L's since the formation of the Great Vortex.

  • @Gilannun12
    @Gilannun12 2 місяці тому +17

    I always hold Morr close to my hearth. My very first character in Warhammer Fantasy RPG was his acolyte. His name was Gaori from one of characters form anime Slayers. I was a wierd kid. But now I'm Myrmidia's devouted simp.

  • @H240909
    @H240909 2 місяці тому +14

    There’s a blink and you’ll miss it reference to Morr in AoS. However, it’s as an aspect of Nagash called Nagash-Morr. So either Morr got eaten during the End Times as previously stated, or he actually made it to the Mortal Realms only to fall when Nagash was being himself… again. Either way, Nagash-Morr is described as studious, dutiful, and even somewhat fair as he catalogues and protects the dead. Which is probably the only time anyone in either setting said anything remotely nice about Nagash in any way, shape, or form.
    The reason I bring all this up is to prove what a cool guy Morr is/was. He was so level headed that he made even a relentless d-bag like Nagash chill the f out, even if only partially.

    • @Xalerdane
      @Xalerdane Місяць тому

      Here’s hoping Sigmar can make Nagash puke him back up.

    • @scruffinmacguffin447
      @scruffinmacguffin447 Місяць тому

      @@Xalerdane there is a god called morrda who hs the same motiffs and is said to have escaped Nagash in the lore

    • @Xalerdane
      @Xalerdane Місяць тому

      @@scruffinmacguffin447 OK, now have him team up with Sigmar and split the Death faction.

  • @thegreatbookofgrudges6953
    @thegreatbookofgrudges6953 2 місяці тому +115

    I'd never ever feel bored whenever the gods in Warhammer fantasy were mentioned, in fact it was not as overwhelmed as 40k (cough *imperium, eldar and chaos* cough). because the gods in fantasy had their own jobs/specialty and had their own ways to interact.

    • @MrManueldx
      @MrManueldx 2 місяці тому +28

      It's because the gods in Fantasy are still alive, in 40k you got Chaos and Emperor, all other gods are inactive, shattered or dead

    • @ZeroFormLak
      @ZeroFormLak 2 місяці тому +5

      ​​@@MrManueldxalso the fact that due to the vast majority of religion is made of just bland factions(except Orks because you know they have the raddest headcanon for their gods and the necrons)
      Take the fact Big E was a dumbass and killed the competition for the chaos gods so they could simply tell you to join instead of giving a very good contract-deal detailing why and what you get worshipping them

    • @DogseatDogs
      @DogseatDogs 2 місяці тому +1

      @@ZeroFormLak I must disagree. The Guard can include just about every culture, forces and mixtures in human history and the Admech with their crazy techno aesthetics. Those are rad. Same can be said for Lost and Damned (traitor guard, chaos cults, beastmen, warrior cultures like Blood Pact) and Dark Mechanicum. Necromunda. Exodites. Kill Teams.
      The sad part is that Space Marines took much of the attention away.
      Who were the competition against Chaos btw? The Eldar Empire ruined their own gods. So many worlds are infested with Chaos cults. Are there any true gods giving miracles during the 30k that were not Chaos Gods? And the Interex? They had to fight 100 years just to bring the Kinebrachs in and prohibit them against military service.

    • @ZeroFormLak
      @ZeroFormLak 2 місяці тому +1

      @@DogseatDogs we were robbed

    • @DogseatDogs
      @DogseatDogs 2 місяці тому +1

      @@ZeroFormLak That's the sad fact. GW executed WHF with End Times then revived it for profits. Kill Team had two teams for Votann and those are their latest developments. Necromunda gets a bad game.

  • @danielbellah3443
    @danielbellah3443 2 місяці тому +21

    Pancreas video on my day off? Such is the power of Nagash

  • @luciustheeternal3029
    @luciustheeternal3029 2 місяці тому +14

    I'm not scum, i wasn't even thinking about poison ivy until you said so. Now i cant stop seeing it. WHYYYYY

  • @leeroyjenkins6103
    @leeroyjenkins6103 2 місяці тому +9

    No Ancestor gods? These other gods ruined godland, you've just made an enemy for life.

  • @LordFargothUr
    @LordFargothUr 2 місяці тому +43

    Pancreas upload! Time to drop what I’m doing to watch it.

  • @generalgrievous4951
    @generalgrievous4951 2 місяці тому +11

    "He's lucky he never met me or else he'd end up pregnant." Damn Pancreas, didn't know you liked him in THAT way

  • @blakeoarmboy
    @blakeoarmboy 2 місяці тому +9

    I like the old gods like Taal and Morr instead of all gods being chaos gods, emp or xenos gods
    I like how fantasy has whole pantheons for almost every faction allows me to scream MORRS SYCTHE CLAIMS YOU or SUFFER ULRICS WARTH BEAST

  • @qoeiennl6762
    @qoeiennl6762 2 місяці тому +13

    the children of Ulric also appear in the black plague trilogy in which they are depicted as cursed beings and are said to be enemies of the ulrician beliefs

  • @adityaindla7275
    @adityaindla7275 2 місяці тому +4

    that last line hit me like a ton of bricks but you know what, he's not wrong

  • @michaelsantamaria5295
    @michaelsantamaria5295 2 місяці тому +20

    current status of the old world gods so far
    Empire gods
    Ulric-->dead
    Taal-->Still worship in the realm of ghur
    Rhya-->Unknown but if Taal still worship then i'm pretty sure she still around
    Morr--> Is back and still around by the new name Morrda
    Shallya-->Still stuck in Nurgle mansion as fantasy/AOS isha
    Myrmida-->Still around worshiped by Hysh human & even some Stormcast (new name Mirmdh)
    Mannan-->if he Mathlann then he got devoured by slaanesh
    Verna-->unknown
    Ranald-->Still worship in Shyish
    Kislev gods
    Ursen--->Unknown depending what the TTW canon route but is still remember and a city call Ursengrod in ghur
    Dwarf
    Griminir-->Shatter into various
    Grungi-->around drinking bugman with Sigmar and forging weapons and armor for him
    Valaya-->went from dead to MIA
    Gazul--> eaten by Nagash but shut the gates to the dwarven afterlife before nagash got in
    Elves
    Isha--> Reincarnated to Alarielle
    Kurnous-->Reincarnated to Kurnoth
    Khaine-->shatter to only a iron heart in Morathi possession
    Lileath/Lady of the lake-->dead
    Bunch of the others like Asuryan, Morai-heg, Loec/Cegorach ect was devoured by slaanesh but as of recently shards has escape She who Thirst stomach and is currently seeking host to reincarnate
    ogres
    Great Maw-->sort worship as it now an aspect of Gorkamorka call the Gulping god but the original worship of the real maw is still around but is considered heretical by the other Mawtribes
    Fire Mouth--->dead? like it's a volcano there nothing really that special it flooded the ogre kingdom in the ET

    • @brandonlyon730
      @brandonlyon730 2 місяці тому +1

      What about Hashut?

    • @michaelsantamaria5295
      @michaelsantamaria5295 2 місяці тому +8

      @@brandonlyon730 Is definitely around. infact we got like trusted sources that Chaos Dwarfs will be coming to AOS 4 edition at some point
      as of Hashut mention so far AOS being continuing that tradition of burying the lead of his true nature as he describe sometimes as a minor chaos god, sometimes a demon god to evil dwarf god to even a demon prince. There even some lore about how the Fyreslayer claim that one of their sacred grimnir flames was stolen and infused into Hashut and his hellish forges

    • @chozer1
      @chozer1 2 місяці тому +1

      @@michaelsantamaria5295any cathay gods?

    • @michaelsantamaria5295
      @michaelsantamaria5295 2 місяці тому +3

      @@chozer1 Cathay Dragons as of yet nothing due being created for TTW3 so they're like very new to the lore and we still haven't lear what exactly the dragon emperor "master plan against chaos" is about
      maybe they make it over but as of yet they still haven't made it to tabletop in the old world

    • @Rukdug
      @Rukdug 2 місяці тому +2

      @@chozer1 The Celestial Dragon Emperor was apparently only really okay with his human subjects venerating (but not worshipping) their ancestors and not worhsipping him and his wife or anything else, so there technically aren't really Cathayan gods as a result. Though Yuan Bo also apparently still wrote some laws involving praying to the Celestial Dragon Emperor and the Moon Empress, so they might have become gods eventually? Either way, neither of them have shown up in AoS since essentially all of modern Cathay was created for TTW3 which came out years after AoS started.

  • @BelligerentPenguin
    @BelligerentPenguin 2 місяці тому +4

    I love Morr. In a lot of fiction, death gods are often depicted as malevolent entities, and Morr is just a neutral entity. Any work that shows Death or the personification of as neutral, or even benevolent and kind are great in my opinion, and I love the whole "guarding the dead" thing Morr's priests do.

  • @_NIKOS9_NIKOS
    @_NIKOS9_NIKOS 2 місяці тому +56

    It's insane how night and day gods are in Fantasy compared to 40K.
    Like, Fantasy asctually has rich lore, variety and complexity when it comes to it's deities and their followers, meanwhile 40K despite it's larger scale has legit next to nothing in comparison.
    Like, even the main 4 Chaos Gods have been stripped of much of their complexity and other attributes/charecterization when compared to their Fantasy counterparts (and the less it's told about the Eldar pantheon the better).

    • @foxnut13
      @foxnut13 2 місяці тому +12

      Isssue with 40k being a galaxy scale setting unfortunately

    • @DogseatDogs
      @DogseatDogs 2 місяці тому +2

      And guess which one sells better?

    • @bisayafascist5725
      @bisayafascist5725 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@DogseatDogs Space Marines?

    • @Dyno2999
      @Dyno2999 2 місяці тому +11

      ​@@DogseatDogsthis isn't a sales comparison

    • @DogseatDogs
      @DogseatDogs 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Dyno2999 Is it? You were all boasting about how WHF has so much more variety. How it is so much better. But in the end, which is known more? 40k or Fantasy? Because there is this thing called Kill Team. And it is not without its own variety. There are these called 40k RPGs and they are not without rich lore.

  • @JacksonBradbury-qh6qv
    @JacksonBradbury-qh6qv 2 місяці тому +40

    Pancreas, I want more ogre propaganda. The maw demands it

  • @3005desu
    @3005desu 2 місяці тому +7

    that teclussy knowledge at the end really fucked me up, thanks

  • @semi-useful5178
    @semi-useful5178 2 місяці тому +26

    The Cult of Taal did kick off the time of three emperors. And this may be my massive Taal Bias showing, but if GW pulled out Ottila and gave her a a bunch of Griffons I bet that she could eclipse Daenarys easily.

    • @HeinrichMuller-mv6hn
      @HeinrichMuller-mv6hn Місяць тому

      When I play Geheimnisnacht CK2 they always form a Nurgle Cult in Talabheim. WHY?

    • @semi-useful5178
      @semi-useful5178 Місяць тому

      @@HeinrichMuller-mv6hn
      Really shouldn't be there. Talabheim is unironically where Taal actually lives.

    • @HeinrichMuller-mv6hn
      @HeinrichMuller-mv6hn Місяць тому

      @@semi-useful5178 I know. But they somehow turned to Nurgle. Only them. Openly. The rest of Tabacleland was conquered by Vlad. It is weird I know.

    • @semi-useful5178
      @semi-useful5178 Місяць тому

      @@HeinrichMuller-mv6hn
      Indeed

  • @thegreatcollector4548
    @thegreatcollector4548 2 місяці тому +6

    This is why I converted from Warhammer 40k to Fantasy

  • @alexwatts1064
    @alexwatts1064 2 місяці тому +4

    I was playing the beta of the first Vermintide, knowing nothing about Warhammer Fantasy (was firmly a 40k guy), and it was Kruber mentioning Taal that got me onto Lexicanum wiki to see what a "Taal" was, and lo and behold, within a week I was WHFB pilled and writing a fan fiction about a Sewer Jack lmao

  • @MrMickio1
    @MrMickio1 2 місяці тому +5

    Luckily for us Morr lovers, he's one of the gods who are still present in age of sigmar! Morrda is a god of death worshipped by a big city of the mortal realms who's priests do rites that prevent corpses from being raised by necromancy. Sounds familiar?

  • @deeraki
    @deeraki 2 місяці тому +4

    That last line basically gave me a concussion. Id say I hope you're proud of yourself, but I know you are...
    But besides that, love the video. Eagerly await the rest of this mini-series!

  • @samwebb2829
    @samwebb2829 2 місяці тому +18

    I never thought I'd here someone say that the brain will shrivel and die if you don't do math. WE FINALLY HAVE SOME ACCURATE FACTS!

  • @Never_heart
    @Never_heart 2 місяці тому +79

    Okay Pancreas, I will admit it. Your opinion on Teclis is very relatable, you have good taste in twinks

    • @martinsimington
      @martinsimington 2 місяці тому +18

      it killed me when i saw that end

    • @lgr9793
      @lgr9793 2 місяці тому

      Shout out to twinks that doom their worlds to apocalypse, gotta be one of my favorite genders

  • @Aettaro
    @Aettaro 2 місяці тому +2

    I'm glad he clarified which poison ivy we were talking about.

  • @jaknova1
    @jaknova1 2 місяці тому +2

    14:12 no I laughed pretty good at that . The bunny standing up hahaha.

  • @bencurran3204
    @bencurran3204 2 місяці тому +2

    warhammer fantasy just gives me ankh mopork vibes with how it does gods, you dream it up, now there is a god of a burglars guild

  • @franzsanders9573
    @franzsanders9573 Місяць тому +2

    Fun fact - Morr is strongly implied to still be "alive" in AoS, as there's a Free City in Shyish that are described as worshipping a benevolent death god called "Morrda" that looks like a raven and helps ensure his followers pass on peacefully & aren't captured/controlled by Nagash's sorcery. In general, I'm hoping more gods - both original (like the King of Cats or whatever his name is) and from Fantasy - start to appear in AoS.
    I also like from an anthropological perspective, so many of the various Fantasy gods are implied to be the same across different pantheons, just under different names (i.e., Mathlann, the Elven god of the sea, and Manann, the Empire's god of the sea, are all but spelled out to be the same person), as it reminds me of how many different pantheons share a "common ancestor" in the proto-Indo-European pantheon. It's a great bit of worldbuilding _and_ clever writing on behalf of Games Workshop's writers.
    Great video as always, man! Can't wait for you to do a video on Ursun!

  • @KaiserAfini
    @KaiserAfini 2 місяці тому +2

    Ulric is so badass that his worshipper became a god and his worshiper's worshiper became the one of chaos' fiercest foes. Still, Ptra's worshipper is Settra, so its a fierce battle for the top spot.

  • @brandonlyon730
    @brandonlyon730 2 місяці тому +11

    Nice to see something different from Warhammer discourse that isn’t about whining about the Custodes.

  • @TVs_Brent
    @TVs_Brent 2 місяці тому +2

    Ray, when a 20 foot tall chaos entity asks if it's a god: you say YES!

  • @sovietunion7643
    @sovietunion7643 2 місяці тому +3

    i kinda like how fantasy has actual gods to worship compared to 40k. it gives more credence to the idea that the warp manifests both good and bad parts of sentient thought, with all these gods having a good and bad side to them, and of course chaos being the most extreme example of this. it makes more sense for chaos gods to exist when gods of positive emotions exist as well. in 40k i'm just always thinking "where are the chaos gods of positive emotion"

  • @CLAREROMVoid
    @CLAREROMVoid 2 місяці тому +3

    That's why 40K is just as fantasy as AOS and TOW. There is magic all around.

  • @Phantom-38
    @Phantom-38 2 місяці тому +1

    The relationship between Ulric and Sigmar reminds me a bit of the relationship ship between Ra and Osiris/Horus where Ra was the first king of the gods but he retired to let the new kid on the block take over

  • @topcat59
    @topcat59 2 місяці тому +11

    Honestly I feel like the C’tan are kind of above gods due to them being a manifestation of a concept and their destruction can cause huge ripple effect that can harm the universe but I could be wrong.🐱

    • @brandonlyon730
      @brandonlyon730 2 місяці тому

      So what did destroying Llandu’gor do other then creating a plague for some unfortunate Necron’s?

    • @topcat59
      @topcat59 2 місяці тому +3

      @@brandonlyon730 sadly it has never been elaborated on what was the consequences of his death which is a shame.🐱

  • @dneeht374
    @dneeht374 2 місяці тому +2

    It's funny how in Warhammer fantasy role play 2ed you can play as pries of Manann, and due to his changing personality, every time you break one of his commandments, you just roll the dice for new ones. You can choose out of like 11 commandments and the Manann just goes like "yea i dont care you swear on sea now, but i dare you not to release this fish".

  • @Woooinion
    @Woooinion 2 місяці тому +2

    Kind of a spoiler if you're looking to read the Back Plague books, but one of the Children of Ulric was a vital companion and (potentially a lover) for Mandred Skaven Slayer during the Skaven wars. They do show up in other places, but the cult of Ulric really doesn't like to admit they exist and have Ulrics favor.

  • @isaacatkinson1882
    @isaacatkinson1882 2 місяці тому +1

    Love that you putting a spotlight on the religions of warhammer.

  • @readingking1421
    @readingking1421 2 місяці тому +1

    Well I am super excited to hear this is a series. Cannot wait to see how you cover the Maw

  • @seeinred
    @seeinred 2 місяці тому +1

    This is, honestly, probably the most cursed ending of the video so far.
    I admire you, Pancreas.

  • @MatoVuc
    @MatoVuc 2 місяці тому +2

    Ha, jokes on you! I actually like listening to you explain warhammer fantasy lore

  • @Lunarice98
    @Lunarice98 2 місяці тому +1

    Fantasy werewolfs are really metal. Literally tearing its way out from their human form into their wolf form wearing the tatters of their human skin.

  • @nicowagner8655
    @nicowagner8655 2 місяці тому +1

    happy to see more gods soon. sounds like a good series.

  • @MellowBun8
    @MellowBun8 2 місяці тому +4

    TFW 40k is most likely to introduce another Space God plastic miniature before we ever get Sigmar mini

  • @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV
    @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV 2 місяці тому +1

    That last line was very relatable. Perhaps the most.

  • @strangergelt5182
    @strangergelt5182 Місяць тому +2

    To be honest, I only follow this channel to hear about Warhammer fantasy lore like this, not that 40k thing you all seem to adore

  • @jtr7377
    @jtr7377 2 місяці тому +3

    If Teclis could survive an adventure with Gotrek, he could probably avoid having your kid(s).

  • @dividewalker5673
    @dividewalker5673 2 місяці тому +1

    19:20 a Warhammer Fantasy calendar video would be interesting, so we can learn more about what shit like Geheimnisnacht is. Sounds like an annual event. I'm interested.

  • @Lorddacenshadowind
    @Lorddacenshadowind 2 місяці тому +1

    Love these long lore vids

  • @GWR515
    @GWR515 2 місяці тому +1

    You from from a fun rabbit joke to the most endearingly genuine mispronunciation (*as much as you can with a made up word*) of Talabecland and it was great

  • @Beriorn
    @Beriorn 2 місяці тому +1

    That end part though.
    "I have depicted my armor as the soy wojak and myself as the chad, therefore I am the victor."

  • @bpouelas
    @bpouelas 2 місяці тому +16

    Damn 480 views in 3 minutes? bro might go big one day

  • @BossEvasion
    @BossEvasion 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for that ending stinger, Pancreas, I’ll be sure to visit Morr’s Garden very soon.

  • @killharry
    @killharry 2 місяці тому +38

    Welcome to Estalia gentlemen. I will not lie, the chances of your survival are small. Some may even turn against your friends as living corpses, but you have my word that I will use my arcane gifts to ensure your bodies are given unto Morr's Garden. This is the greatest reward, more than even gold, for the fate of your soul is an eternal concern!

    • @Eiskralle1
      @Eiskralle1 2 місяці тому +4

      SUPREME VICTORY!

    • @ManDuderGuy
      @ManDuderGuy 2 місяці тому +3

      Geltman is my favorite ❤

  • @adriancontreras7523
    @adriancontreras7523 Місяць тому

    Can't wait to see more gods of warhammer videos

  • @Dylanface8791
    @Dylanface8791 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video, I would love to have more old world/fantasy lore 😊

  • @Jleot
    @Jleot 2 місяці тому +1

    Always love to see TOW content!

  • @hiage66666
    @hiage66666 2 місяці тому +1

    I’m excited for you to cover Myrmidia

  • @matthewniamat90
    @matthewniamat90 2 місяці тому +1

    Very informative, thanks!

  • @MrDarthtelos
    @MrDarthtelos 2 місяці тому +2

    Nice Mpreg joke at the end.

  • @explore7891
    @explore7891 2 місяці тому +1

    Seriously lack of luthor harkon but...the sea god...hmmm yes good truly he is pirate( great video! Keep up the grand work!)

  • @darkyuraptor3315
    @darkyuraptor3315 2 місяці тому +1

    I'd like to see the "Gods of Warhammer - Dwarven Gods" video soon. Grimnir would be cool to talk about, and his comparative relation to Gotrek.

  • @Azenatrail
    @Azenatrail 2 місяці тому +1

    Morr is best death god. I hope he someday tears himself out of Nagash’s stomach and takes his rightful place as Lord of Shyish.

  • @iwannabeanonymous2236
    @iwannabeanonymous2236 2 місяці тому +1

    Damn, this be doing numbers

  • @guamsoncruz5107
    @guamsoncruz5107 2 місяці тому +1

    funny how this comes just as the new dlc for total warhammer comes and it has a lady completely dedicated to mor

  • @kilogramofwhat830
    @kilogramofwhat830 2 місяці тому +1

    Just got outta Bootcamp and had some time to burn. Happy to see a new post :)

  • @Arbiterjim
    @Arbiterjim 2 місяці тому +4

    Ulric was worthy of worship by Sigmar, so he's good enough for me too. Though the Dawi and Asur have mighty pantheons as well (and the Dawi are the best)
    But Lileath is the greatest troll of any universe. True queen shit, especially since Bretonnia sucks.
    But any God that stands against the big 4 are good in my book, even if their methods suck

  • @ADEADSKELETON
    @ADEADSKELETON 2 місяці тому +1

    Oh boy my favourite loretuber uploaded, I sure hope there isn't a big chungus jumpscare

  • @morcbus123
    @morcbus123 2 місяці тому

    I look forward to any exploration of Ursun you end up doing! I know Total War: Warhammer 3 had a lot of lore creation, updates and tweaks to some of its factions because they were fairly obscure, but I am very curious to learn if he entirely separate from the Old Gods mentioned here or not.

  • @HiddenEvilStudios
    @HiddenEvilStudios 2 місяці тому +2

    Missed opportunity to play a bass-boosted version of Markus Kruber's *BY TAAL! FIGHT! KILL! DEATH!* with a prior warning only for viewers on screen and not the listeners.
    Such could've been the power of Nagash.

  • @gabrielsmith771
    @gabrielsmith771 2 місяці тому

    opening this with the emperor is hilarious in its own right

  • @joshuasepeda3289
    @joshuasepeda3289 Місяць тому +1

    The Skaven aren't completely evil. They do keep screwing Nagash over. That alone gets them Settra's approval.

  • @1cw495
    @1cw495 2 місяці тому +1

    I would love to see Dwarf gods up next, or Tomb King gods too!

  • @ce4879
    @ce4879 2 місяці тому +1

    The Rhya vs Slaanesh rivalry of love vs pleasure has a good example in AoS too in one story where a Hedonites commander captured a Sylvaneth to try and turn her to his side as he cultivated her sisters into exotic fruit trees and wanted soulpods to grow his own army.
    When walking through his harems with her he asked if she was bothered by it and she no for as a creature of the Life Realm Sylvaneth approve of the acts of love creating birth & more life*
    However he said their acts won’t as they use magic to keep them sterile as children take away pleasure and Slaanesh’s followers only want to focus on the here and now.
    This puzzled her and had her say then it is simply a pointless act as you are people without legacies and no future or potential as that is the greatest gift of life vs pure pleasure.
    (He would later get his wish of “planting an army” but oohhh all the monkey paws curled on that wish. Don’t eat Sylvaneth fruit, your outhouses will become barracks)
    *Realm of Ghyran is big on it, even the landmasses multiply by having genders so they drift together and mate to birth new islands and floating landmasses.

  • @elilambert6450
    @elilambert6450 2 місяці тому

    Great vid!!

  • @NephilimHunter1959
    @NephilimHunter1959 2 місяці тому

    I'd love if you did one on Ursun since the story around TW WH3 revovles around everyone trying to either save, kill or eat him

  • @thermalvision203
    @thermalvision203 2 місяці тому +1

    15:51 Funnily enough, this is a reference to the Rime of the Ancient Mariner, a late 18th-century major poem by Samuel Taylor Coleridge, which referenced the somewhat popular superstition of the time that Albatrosses were the souls of lost sailors, so killing them would bring bad luck, and popularized this niche superstition held inconsistently by sailors throughout history into popular culture, so it kind of is a genuine superstition held by medieval sailors.