Hell Let Loose - How to Flank the Enemy
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
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All these videos are fantastic, your channel is how I learned how to play and understand this game!
Awesome to hear that and happy to have helped man! Stay tuned for more and consider joining the discord as well. Lots of super cool people in there and lots of tips are shared.
Flanking is good and a great strategy that is used in real life but, the problem that most people need to realize is that a flank only works effectively if there is already a base of fire that has most of the enemy fire oriented on that position and simultaneously the flanking elements exploiting the enemies gaps.
That's true. Find them, fix them, flank them.
Exactly, if there is no frontal attack then the flank becomes the main attack, with maybe a bit more surprise at the beginning. Still, it's always better to attack from an unexpected direction.
Well yes your right or it wouldn't be called a flank lol
No. I run till i die, thats how the game is. It dosent matter where i go
The problem in HLL is the endlessly patient motherfucker sitting in a bush all match preventing my flanks. And they somehow end the match with 6 kills and they’re all me haha😅
I hope more players see this video so I don't have to flank on my own all the time.
True😃😃😆🤣
You need good squad leaders who enforce effective communication for that.
No shit right....just go far around and carefully back in....ugh....
Fat chance. I find myself 60% of the time trying to get the team to do something other than run straight into hordes of enemies or into uncaptured points.
Dont helps.
Go where enemy dont expect u???? He dont will expect me anywhere coz in this game there isnt a single secound u know where enemy is and from where he comes.
Kill garnision? Stupid? I cant know where they are!
Flank? No reason to do so. U start running till u die, than respawn and repeat it over and over again till the game is over, thats the game, Idk why it matter where i run to get killed
Flank enemy when u are i defanse??
Again, u CANT CANT and CANT flank a enemy in a game where u dont know at any secound where the enemy is! U dont know at any secound if hes in front, left, right or behind u in this game! Heeeellloooo??
I watched a enemy team hold the last point for 20 minutes and the closing wasn't far to go. We had to take it to win. I took my squad a long way around to attack from 180 from the main attack. It was a blood bath and meat grinder. We died as soon as we spawned. BUT! The attack took resources from the eastern front of the assault. Die we did! The easy kills they had on us drained the main attack front and our team won! Yeah some whinners cry at how "lousy" a squad leader you are, yet here you are a winner! Perhaps the Commander awards you an accommodation! Think outside the box every now and then. Flanking offers a lot of possibilities. Do it right and s...l...o...w....
03:50 this is so true. My recon leader said that we had to head further east, before going up North and attack the Artillary. It was on the map with the beach. I found a rock, and stuck to it. I'm still fairly new to the game, so when I got 7 kills on the commander, 39 Infantry kills & 15 SL kills, I't was the most fun Iv'e had in a game in ages. No artillery shot was fired that game, and I didn't die once. It's worth it to be patient. Wait until the enemies are isolated, and have your SL distract.
Patience goes a long way in HLL. Flanking and being disciplined enough to not always immediately start firing pays off. Instead of killing one or two and then being killed yourself, you can wipe out garrisons, and kill entire squads sometimes. Much more Impactful and much more fun!
Your videos are very well produced and clear and logical. Excellent work sir.
Very nice of you. Thanks man!
I agree that flanking is extremely important but I don’t believe you should always be flanking. Some people need to stay and establish a frontline so that the enemy focuses there and can be flanked effectively.
Although that usually solves itself as most players are more than happy staying on the frontline at all times. 😂
Thanks for the great tips. 👌
My thought process exactly lol. I don't even need to encourage people to stay on the Frontline cuz there's plenty of people who do just that!
This is called setting up a base of fire and is vital for the flank to succeed.
One grid square of flanking movement isn't enough at all. Keep in mind that while most troops are slugging it out, there are opportunists and lone wolfs on the other team that typically soread out up to a grid square or more away from the main fight. On top of that, enemy troops often will try their own flanking attack and run right into you, sparking a new gun fight. I always go 2 or 3 grids out before turning depending on the terrain but 2 is my minimum.
Also, if you hear a recon plane, get inside a building asap. Don't check the map to see if its friendly, you simply don't have the time before you're spotted and the enemy knows where you are.
Communication is critical with this. You need several squads to hold the front line and give support by fire and have your armor strong point the enemy while other squads flank.
Just got started on HLL, very nice and helpful video
Thanks, glad it was helpful! Subscribe if you haven't already cuz I've got more good stuff in the works. Also you're welcome to join my discord. We'll give you a warm welcome and show you the ropes! dsc.gg/soulsniper
Love these videos, not played yet but building up my soldier brain!
Flanking in defence is so underrated, my and my squad flanked at just the right time when they were about to smash out lines with a couple tanks, it was about 5 mins till the game ended too so this was do or die, I was support and me and my TD got a canon on a ridge over looking and we had an MG to take out the infantry, it was literally perfect. We were able to completely shut down their push, commander shouted us out and we each got at least 2 commendations each
The more a play HLL the more I want to play it.
No doubts the best FPS I have ever come across.
500 hours played of it and still lots to explore.
Great game play friend, accurate aim and good moves.
Enjoy your playing e see you on your next content.
Have a good weekend
Same here man, I love it! If you're on PC we should play sometime. You can join my discord and check out our HLL server if ya want. dsc gg/soulsniper
If you're on console we've got a console players in there too.
Cant wait to watch the Tanker's Guide! Thanks Soul, these vids help a lot.
Last night I flanked all game, taking out several OP's and 3 garrisons...I was also able to drop ammo, explosives and supplies as I was support!...we crushed them.
You played a big part in the victory it sounds like! I love hunting garrisons. Super satisfying to know you just decreased the enemies options!
I don't play Hell Let Loose, but i have the patiance to flank the enemy in other ROBLOX shooter games, the map is large, so i have to like go a long way from the battlefield or some snipers will just shoot me. Also, im good at being sneaky in rl and games, im also good at spotting people and spotting lying people. When I'm not flanking, I just sit on the flank and take out people with my trusty rifle, yes im incredible at aming. Usally i wait for around 3 to 4 mins before a enemy shows up
Wrong game here, bud.
its good to have a group constantly attacking and holding the enemies attention fixed while others flank. if people stop coming from a direction they will know somethings up and reposition you need a little meatgrinder to flank more effectively
It is worth noting that since the release of this video the game has had an update to dismantling where doing it together gives you a speed buff. The more people taking a garry/node/airhead/supplies down together at the same time, the faster it goes!
It is now worthwhile to take things out by hand in a group.
This means that since this change has been introduced, it is often much better to take it out together. It is faster and more importantly; quiet.
Great points! I will also add that you can take a quick break from dismantling to kill an enemy and then resume dismantling where you left off if you're quick and stay near the nodes or Garry.
Great vid as per usual bud! Love it!!
This should be a tutorial that’s everyone needs to master before playing the game. It’s such an effective tactic esp when being tactical and practical comms are used
My worse experiences with this is when we start flanking, we are silent, unnoticed. We see their spawns and are just going to curve around and....someone opens up at a 200m targets... oh look 2 mg's are pinning us. Or we are flanking, everything is good, then someone pops smoke/shots. Know when to shoot and know when to let the enemy pass
REEtreat and REEposition is how i like to get my flanks...
If i start taking fire, instead of going left or right, i back track then swing for the flank.
Really helpful guide mate, cheers. Confirms for me as an SL that I'm doing something right!
Glad you think so man! Feel free to stop by the discord and introduce yourself! dsc.gg/soulsniper
Maybe we can squad up sometime!
@@SoulSniperYT Just done it, bro. I'm Jonny B on there. Thanks very much! :D
@@UnifiedFilms Welcome to the club man!
I've been trying to flank in this game from day one. It always ends the same way: come up behind unaware enemies, take one single shot at them and then get turned on and ground to paste.
How long have you been playing? You'll eventually start taking down a few. Long kill streaks aren't the norm by the way. Sometimes you only get one or two and don't find a Garrison or anything. But it's still better than Frontline wack-a-mole lol.
@@SoulSniperYT I'm lvl 36. Played about 40 hours. I guess my frustration usually is that people seem to have eyes in the back of their heads. Not that they're cheating but I just don't know how they figure out where I am so fast. Especially when I think I'm concealed well.
I usually have no idea where I get killed from unless theyre right in front of me, so it can't be that the dead guys are calling out where they get shot from.
Maybe they can just pinpoint the sound of my shots in the middle of the rest of the cacophony somehow. If so, we'll kudos to them, I could never be that sweaty.
Or am I playing on too high graphics settings and not as concealed as I think I am? I know that was a problem on arma.
@@randomite88 audio clues definitely play a role here. Experienced players can hear the difference between most of the weapons (mp40 vs Thompson, STG vs BAR, etc.) and footsteps can also heard heard quite clearly, especially with a decent headset. If you've flanked the enemy, you have probably caught them off guard and are likely near their OP or garrison, or inside the strong point. These are areas they want to protect at all costs, so if one goes down, usually they warn their teammates nearby as you mentioned. Also, there is a slight visual indicator that very briefly flashes on the screen when you get hit. photos.app.goo.gl/EiQWxQqPeKNHirzs6
I'm usually able to tell the general direction I'm hit from and can sometimes turn and return fire quick enough to take people out. But yea, honestly you're still fairly green. Give it some time and you'll likely start doing more damage in those scenarios. I'm working on the assault role guide video now which has a lot of combat effectiveness tips since that role is all about killing. Hoping to have it uploaded this week. 👍
Oh and also keep in mind that whenever you see video clips of these long kill streaks, that's not the typical experience. You're watching someone's rare moment they recorded and decided to share. What you don't see is how many games they played where they got destroyed or did just ok before they finally popped off and had something worthy of sharing. Keep playing and enjoying the game man! Those amazing moments will come.
Thats how it was with me to begin with and I'll tell you what changed it. Move to cover, stop, look all around. Anyone moving is highly visible, stand still and many people just won't see you. Move up in little bursts with long periods of watching. Also if you suspect they're close, don't sprint and keep ears open. Hope this helps
"Are you sick of running into the meat grinder that is called the frontline in hell let loose?" me, who have been playing mostly arty the last few games exactly for that reason: yes. yes I am.
Do you have any tips for arty? My biggest concern is team kill arty and over firing the objective when my team wants to push in
@@Sniper0502 I do! I'll try to keep them brief and helpful (not in order of importance):
1. Expect enemy recon to show up and harass you, do what you can to make their job harder
a. Get a unused truck stationed in front of the arty you are using
b. Drop an OP to serve as a "radar" against enemies
c. Spread some mines if you can, yourself or from friendlies (the more the merrier)
2. Use your preferred arty calculator, have it on your phone or a separate screen (hell let loose artilly calculator -> google)
3. During reload (when solo on arty), you can press F1 to change to the gunner spot when the loading bar reaches the ammunition bar (more or less, pay attention to it), this will save you precious seconds between shots
4. Pay attention to the ammunition count (press tab and check upper left screen), don't fire if running low. Learn to pace your shots.
5. Make full use of icons requesting arty as well as allied flares and recons, fire on those spots as long as allies are not too close to it
6. Communicate with your team letting them know where you are firing (name of objective or grid location)
7. Remember that you usually have 20+ seconds between you firing your gun and the shell hitting. Always shoot where you think the enemy will be in 20s
8. While on reloader, you can hold down "2" to change to smoke, and "1" to change back to explosive shells. Use smoke only when requested or after communicating.
9. When firing, don't shoot the exact same spot over and over, spread a little. To the sides and the inclination as well, change the angle in small numbers (such as changing 1 between shots). Use your common sense to spread the shots on an area but don't move in large angle numbers too, unless there are more enemies on the new angles you are shooting at
I just thought of these from the top of my head, so they aren't in importance order and I might have forgotten something... but that should most of it :)
Open a locked squad and designate it as Arty. Then communicate a lot with the other SLs, who are your eyes on the battlefield. Ask them to mark locations on the map for arty. Communicate to them before you start shelling an area so they know to tell their squad to avoid the area. Understand that there's a delay between you firing and the shell landing. So if you are going to cease fire, know that the last shell is still in the air on track for the target. Communication is key to ensuring you don't slaughter your whole team. Just like in real life. And use the arty calculators. Google it. :)
Flanking is nice but you can't have all squad flank or you loose your Frontline. And the ennemy can just get in easy. But yah flanking is nice as long as you keep some squads holding ennemies on front line
That's true, however most squads go for a head on attack, which is why I felt the need to make this video. Flanking is so damn effective in HLL if you do it right.
@@SoulSniperYT When flanking goes wrong; if you make the mistake of building a flanking garrison on a public server. It's almost inevitable the *_whole team_* deploys there, so you'll likely also lose your frontline garries to a counter attack.
Suddenly the _"flank"_ is your only front, and eventually you end up having your flanking garrison locked because it's invariably in enemy territory; completely extinguishing your attack. I've seen this happen so often it's *_almost_* guaranteed in public matches.
Lesson; on public servers have only 1-2 units flank using *_outposts_* only. Otherwise you'll need agreement on which units are flanking with the understanding the garrison is only a fallback when *_those_* units lose their outpost(s).
A convincing argument for those in the meat grinder, is that they will also be on a flank when the defence has to rotate because of your flanking maneuver.
Protect those garrisons everyone!
This is an excellent point. You'll notice I did not promote building a Garrison, just placing an outpost. This is why. People tend to spawn at whatever Garrison is closest to the enemy location. Building one while attempting to flank is an open invitation for the rest of your team to come blow your cover, lock the garrison, and lose your own sector due to lack of defense.
@@SoulSniperYT yes, I noticed and am thankful. For clarity my comment was not intended as criticism, and merely to raise awareness, so perhaps tagging you was unnecessary.
Update: I wonder if placing the flanking garrison farther away from the objective than the frontline garries would mitigate that tendency; I somehow doubt it, since everyone tires of the static combat (meat grinder) and will want another angle of approach.
PS: for avoidance of doubt, your videos have been very excellent and high quality, I appreciate the effort that must go into them!
Oh I didn't take it as criticism, no worries dude. I was just agreeing with you and noting that, while I didn't specifically talk about that issue in the video, I also encouraged the use of outposts rather than garrisons. 👍
Destroying enemy garries: what a novel idea. Good luck convincing your squad of this strategy though!
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Your server is my go too. A lot of PTFO people xD
Awesome man! Happy to hear you enjoy the server! If you're ever interested in VIP access, a bunch of us split the server cost so it's dirt cheap per person and that gets you VIP access. Join the discord if you're interested. dsc.gg/soulsniper
0:45 there should be a TDM using X amount of squares from the maps , no vehicles, no artillery. Just so new players can get use to the mechanics and practice their aim.
Except it would draw from the core players base and bring sweats into the community.
Ahhh, maybe that's the ticket? One grid square which I think is 200 meters. I either flank out too far and it's over before I get there, or one of the enemies watching for a flank gets me.
A lot of it has to do with being smart about how you flank and patient. You really have to think about where enemies most likely are and where they're watching and either avoid those areas or find ways to pass through those areas quietly and quickly. I might be doing a new tutorial pretty soon that kind of touches on some of these things.
@@SoulSniperYT I kept everything in mind while I played a couple of matches. Tried to flank one grid out, checked my map for where the enemy would use cover. Vast improvement. Still got demolished, but located a lot of squads trying to push.
@@digthathole5521 a lot of it comes with experience and map knowledge too. You'll learn the common danger zones and where people like to post up or travel. You'll get there, just keep playing and enjoying!
Shoot I’d say 2 to 3 grid squares of if u want to make sure ur flanking correctly
Depends on the map. Something like Kursk or Foy require deeper flanks than something like St. Mere Eglise.
@@SoulSniperYT id say flanking too far is always better than not flanking far enough
Yea, in many cases I'd agree!
I'm flanking all the time. Then, after spending so long getting around the enemy, I get head-shot from across the map.
Yea that does happen and it can be frustrating for sure. Just be cautious and smart and aware of your surroundings as you move and be ready to defend yourself.
I had a guy on my team insisting on a flank instead of defending he somehow made everyone follow him too fucked up the entire defense we had. If you guys have strong feeling on flanking just start your own squad and do that...
It doesn't work if everyone flanks. That just shifting the frontline. You need the steady frontal assault to keep the enemies focus so your flanking squad(s) can catch them off guard.
2:50 enemy always cover their right flank there. I always get butchered if I try to flank them from there. Only way this is possible is going at the edge of the map far north and attack them from north.
Yeah, good stuff.
Thanks matey
The problem with flanking is that it only works if your team has the best players anyway. Because it takes a very long time to do a proper flank, and during all that time, your team is missing a whole squad in the meat grinder. If all players on both teams are of equal average skill, that means your team will get pushed back while the flank is going on, simply by weight of numbers. If they don't get pushed back, then your team simply better on average at spotting and hitting enemies, and you could have won by simply grinding it out in the centre.
Also, if the other team is competent, then they will send out flanking squads of their own, and then you just have two meat grinders - the one in the centre and the one on the flanks. At the end of the day, this game is won by spotting and shooting enemies and building more garrisons in better positions.
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Sounds good dude!
I watch two of these at 2x speed every day.
great material :)
Thanks man!
Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
How do you use micro phone on console or is there none?
That’s all they do is flank, sadly there’s no apparent understanding of defense 🤣🤣🤣
Your point about defense is very true lol. Though I wouldn't call what most people do flanking. It's more like pushing directly into the point straight from the last strongpoint in a straight line!
The tactics are revolving matter Discovery North Carolina ( me too NC ) . Like chess, you counter when you observe the enemy doing something. They are smart also. Usually, I have found, it's the squad leader who commands the field. They may or may not have coordination between other squads. When another squad is in sink with the program it's a sight of beauty and deadly results for the enemy!
Newbie on PS5 here! Super down to squad up and learn the ropes with anyone willing to help!
you use cover and concealment to move around the sides/flank of the enemy. duh
That's why I sometimes create a locked squad and just play solo SL, since many players don't pay attention to flanking at all, and blaming you for setting up an OP far away from the frontline.
what gun is he using at 4:00
That's the scoped FG42. Only the sniper role has it.
Man i wish so hardly that the devs would make the Mg gunner holding the Mg in the right way and not like it's a automatic Flak gun with the stock in the chest....that looks so stupid and unrealistic.
I only play SnD on hell let loose
Umm, go to their side?
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Hi Go3!
@@SoulSniperYT Hai. :D
Dont helps.
Go where enemy dont expect u???? He dont will expect me anywhere coz in this game there isnt a single secound u know where enemy is and from where he comes.
Kill garnision? Stupid? I cant know where they are!
Flank? No reason to do so. U start running till u die, than respawn and repeat it over and over again till the game is over, thats the game, Idk why it matter where i run to get killed
Flank enemy when u are i defanse??
Again, u CANT CANT and CANT flank a enemy in a game where u dont know at any secound where the enemy is! U dont know at any secound if hes in front, left, right or behind u in this game! Heeeellloooo??
You are saying my videos are unhelpful, yet your reasoning is because you can't find the enemy or anticipate what's going to happen next in the game or find an enemy, garrison, etc. How long have you even been playing? Sounds to me like You aren't really willing to Stick it out and improve and learn.
@@SoulSniperYT i play for a month each day few hours and at work i watch Videos and try everything to lern but its not possible.
@@serbe323 it's definitely possible to learn. My channel has helped thousands of people learn the game, and I learned from other channels. It just takes some time, effort, and patience!
Terrible game now.
Why do you feel that way?
"Are you sick of the meat grinder?" HLL suffers from the opposite problem everyone wants to flank and no one knows how to be the meatgrinder.
How to flank : get a good officer
Outposts are key to sustaining a flank
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