+Clement Lee: "Hey. Just have faith. Your reward will be great." ==No thank you. I don't want to kill anybody just because a self proclaimed god says so.
+wmfivethree: "with no possible naturalistic explanation" ==I can give a naturalistic explanation. It is just ink on paper. Anyone can grab a pen and write down whatever their imagination produces. With enough time and since these stories come from a time when humans were superstitious, they started to believe the stories as factual. ^^^^^^^^^^^There you go. A perfectly natural explanation. This sort of thing probably happened in every culture.
vmfivethree Thats an nice idea, but the feat of being omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent would allow you to ignore this problem all at once. This means he can do everything you can think of and even more. Because if he would not know what Abraham will do he is not omniscient.
beth98362 R Because the person being tested needs to acknowledge the extent of his faithfulness. That's like asking why the teacher tests her brightest student even though she knows he can do it
Been an atheist for years, but these videos are slowly bringing me around to the idea of a bumbling raging God being barely held in check by his son and a massive workforce of angels who are 110% fed up with his shit.
"Lucifer's side" is literally a metaphor for anyone that goes against God's word. "You don't like what he said? Fine. Then you're banished to hell for eternity." Religious teachings are so damn transparent.
I don't even see why so-called good Christians preach this, even if it was a metaphor, the only lesson I can get out of it is this; "no matter how crazy or inhumane something sounds do it as long as God tells you to, he might somehow interfere and make it less inhumane". I was mostly reminded about this at Sunday school when I was young in Nigeria, I was even afraid to question it and just concluded that it was justified, now that I'm older, more confident and smarter in a different environment I know better than to just go along with the story.
Actually, I don't think they read the bible, because, as my favorite author, Isaac Asimov said, "Properly read, the bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
The entire purpose of the religion is to degrade mankind somehow. Thus sayeth the LORD your God: You shall spread apart thy butt cheeks and I shall display my glory by inserting my member.
as an american atheist in africa, one of the most distrubing things that has happened to African culture is the devout belief of this immoral book, without question.
Well no he wouldent he was only 6 months old at this alter of this ritual . But who are we to question Gods judgement he is just because man's heart is so wicked that we make up God's of other kinds rape women kill people and all the other stuff .
Except Abraham wasn't a homeless looking murder obsessed dumbass he was sad he had to kill his soon and his son accepted his death gracefully knowing he would soon be with god
@@paul-ye3ut Yeah that definitely didn't happen, if your own father tricked you into coming with to a secluded place an then tried to sacrifice you to god would you "gracefully accept your death" or would you frick the fuck out like a normal person? And if some voice in your head told you it was god and that you needed to kill your own son would you be like "yeah this checks out" or would you think you were going insane?
@@radekchrabota were not talking about me were talking about the Bible Abraham in the Bible was sad but he understood it was God's will and Isaac his son was taught God is good so he must have a good reason to want him dead so Isaac graceful accepted his death atleast thats how the Bible portrays it. I don't know what I would do if I heard voices claiming to be God it depends on what there saying for me to do what they said
@Barney that happens allot when I was a kid I was a heavy Christian if a priest let me hear the voice of God and that voice was only in my head and it said give your asshole to him I would have done it and I wouldn't have called it rape thats how a cult works and that's how most organized religion is
@Barney i actually stopped talking to my brother because he was an atheist and I wanted to kill myself when I found out that there might not be a god of this world
wmfivethree i mean, he did almost die. Imagine if a child almost died at the hands of his father. Just because the child lived, doesn’t mean that the father wasn’t doing a terrible, immoral thing. Please stop justifying attempted murder just because your irrational god wants to both be punishing and loving/loved.
@wmfivethree Yeah, but God didn't stop Jepthah from killing his daughter and offering her as a burnt sacrifice, some translations may say otherwise but the original Hebrew version uses the word for "burnt offering"
@wmfivethree Have you read Jepthah, it doesn't have to do with Abraham's story or an interpretation of it, Jepthah promised to sacrifice whatever came out of his home first when he came back from war if god helped him. Then when his daughter came out (honestly what did he think would greet him) he got angry about having to kill her and took 2 months to do it because he really didn't want to, 2 months that God could have stopped this and at the end of those 2 months Jepthah kills his daughter and burns her. My point is that you can't say God is great because he prevented a human sacrifice he commanded, when he did nothing to intervene in a human sacrifice he commanded that took months to be performed.
@wmfivethree They made a deal that if God helped Jepthah then he would sacrifice a life to god, Jepthah didn't sacrifice her spontaneously, if God didn't want a human sacrifice then he wouldn't have helped Jepthah fight or could even have stopped Jepthah from fighting. God knew that Jepthah would kill his daughter because of their deal, could have stopped it but chose not to. Did God "shit" on Abraham for stopping him from killing Issac? Why are you trying to frame a man killing his child or the act of being complacent in this murder in a positive light, with your football analogy? Edit: My answer to your question is, the one(s) who didn't kill their child(ren)
@@tiredtypes1260 God knew at what exact time to call his name and stop Abraham from killing him cuz God knows everything including the future. God knows what he is doing
I cannot give you high enough praise, oh non-stamp collector, than to say I’ve rewatched all your comedic jewels several times - they are always hilarious and, ironically, never “get old/dated”. One of THE most brilliant and entertaining UA-cam channels, bar none.
Yes the only critic I have here is just that there are too few videos!! I have been refreshing the channel every day to wait for new videos to pop up :'(
@@mrcurly1147 Yeah but some of us were born into Christianity, or went to Christian elementary schools, where the stories were fed to us so frequently that they became reality. This story, though, managed to be so fucked up that even my indoctrinated brain couldn't tolerate it.
Hackman: seriously, I don't know that "most" bible stories have some kind of moral value. I'd say most of them do NOT. Which is the opposite of what I was taught. But once I started reading it for myself, without first begging god to "bless it to my heart" or whatever, suddenly it became hideous. And weird. Very, very weird. Most of it is illegal today, immoral, unethical at the best...Working for 7 years to get a bride, then having her sister foisted off on you and having to work another 7 years? HOW IS THAT RIGHT? One story of thousands that show no decency at all.
@stevytube late but... i think thats the point of this stories inclusion in the text. It's a story of faithfulness to G-d that defies logic. It can and has been used to justify control and authority of the Church but idk even Jesus did like most church leaders very much. Accusing them of basically being more about power and money than salvation and the greater community.
Non Stamp, you need to write a script to be produced as a movie or tv series...I'll help you animate it if you'd like. These are pure genius, insightful, and an honest look at this archaic doctrine that is hindering the growth of our species. Fantastic job!
Stephen Bachman He DID comment on a recent Darkmatter video. He still uses his account. I guess he burned out making these videos. Which is a shame. The world could always use more NonStampCollectors.
Michael Alexanders I would guess that he felt like he'd covered the pertinent arguments. After awhile you run the risk of treading the same ground over, and it wouldn't be nice to infringe on the apologists' shtick. :P
This is brilliant, the story of Abraham traumatises me. That a father would so willingly attempt to kill his son...and this is preached to children. Wake up people!
IF GOD KNOWS EVERYTHING...THEN HE KNOWS THE RESULT OF THE TEST BEFORE HE GIVE THEM....SO WHAT THE POINT....POOR CHILD...JUST IMAGINE IF YOU ARE THE ONE LYING THERE....
@@reneemerritt6572 Wait, God is alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, he's omniscient, powerful, he even made the pharaoh angry to not let the israelites leave egypt, God can control the human heart(mind), why can't he just see if Abraham truly loves him, why can't God just travel in time to see if Abraham would do it.
@@nbeshark2584 Well If God controls the heart is that messing with our free will? And what good is it for Abraham if God did not test him. Like Abraham love his son and God test him to see if he love God more than his son. Like If you say that you love Lord and do nothing to prove that you love the Lord. Like what the New Testament it say that you love the Lord and your character is not like him than you lied.
Really? Atheism is just a default position on the existence of god/gods. It does not "think" for you. You think critically for yourself. Unlike the Judeo-Christian tradition, you have set of dogmas you adhere to. The story of Abraham and Isaac is one of the most disgusting story ever if you really think about it. Abraham heard voices on his head and cut his foreskin then proceeded to murder his son as a sacrifice to the voice in his head. What we can really say about this is: blind faith can justify anything even the attempted slaughter of your own son.
+Jeffrey Dumaplin And faith led to the crucifixion of God's only begotten Son. There was a reason for Abraham, this isn't just some random act... And your "default position" is nothing more then appealing to ignorance. You weren't born believing in God? You weren't born in believing in anything.. Care to explain how that makes sense?
I believe there is one version where he does, where Abraham finds the goat to sacrifice of his own agency. Earlier Abraham begs and confronts God not to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, that a just and good God would not do such a thing, so it fits in more with his character to refuse God later when God vindictively wants to punish said hubris by telling him to kill Isaac. All these stories, even if you were to believe they happened, have been corrupted over thousands of years with different narrators, retellings, cultures, edits, agendas and translations that you’d have to be an irrational brainwashed idiot to believe it’s literally word for word true.
This is an extremely modern idea, post-dating 1945. You should look at Milgram's "Obedience to Authority" for this lesson, not to the Bible. This story is just saying "don't sacrifice your children anymore, God doesn't like it", because that was a common custom in ancient Canaan.
@@annaclarafenyo8185 Yeah, that was what I was taught, too. And now I'm looking at it and thinking, "Well, if he was a loving god, why did he do it in a way to cause emotional torture and an irreparable rift between Abraham and his son?" I'm not omniscient, and I can think of a few effective ways to get that message across without the torture part. Probably you could, too.
@@sundayoliver3147 This has nothing to do with God the concept. The Bible isn't the word of God, it's an ancient book which describes the idea of God. The idea is what is important, not the descriptions. This story is designed to END child sacrifice. And it doesn't matter what stupid out-of-character things that version of God says or does, what matters is "Did the story stop child sacrifice?" And the answer is "Yes", because child sacrifice disappeared from ancient Canaan.
I really wish I could have given that kid some kind of "Actually Moral" merit badge. Good on you. You should be proud of your young self. It drove me crazy to see kind, religious people nodding their heads to this madness.
@thecommiesalami What .... they sent you to the corner?! Why didn't they just give you the very simple and straightforward understanding of how it all makes sense. Oh, wait ....
The poor boy... I bet he was traumatized for life! Even if his mind were to block out the horrid memories, he would still have a terrible relationship with his own father! One that lacked of love, trust, and maybe even a shortage of empathy for him! I was bullied and harassed back at my old christian school for about 4 years. It's been almost two years since I escaped, and I still have issues from it. I still have trouble trusting and socializing with boys (since it was mostly boys who harassed me) and making genuine friends (because my so-called "friends" watched me as I suffered, and they never did anything)! If some bullying and harassment is all it takes to cause trust issues, than poor little Isaac must have been scared for life!
Deep Sea Girl Abraham didn't lack love for his son. He thought it was crazy to do so... thinking about it logically. But he trusted NOT in his own understanding and trusted God's Word. He probably felt sorry that he was going to have to sacrifice his only son (at the time). Issac lived and just as it was documented that Saul was inhabited by spirits and David played the lyre to release the spirits from Saul - Don't you think that Moses would have documented what happened in Issac's body? Just food for thought. God bless. And I did read your comment and am sorry!
Joshua Wright Wow the fact that you try to justify this fathers actions, no way would he be able to trust his father ever again, also you fairytale God is dumb, what’s the point of the test when he already knows the answer, remember God is supposed to know everything.
Joshua Wright “But he trusted NOT in his own understanding and trusted God’s Word.” Sickening NONSENSE. Mental...illness. This is the kind of man that would commit a mass shooting on God’s command and not think twice because he heard god’s word. Really, what kind of a sadistic psychopath of a god would toy with one of his most devout followers in such a cruel and deceptive way? If you’re willing to follow through with such orders, regardless of if anybody stops you, you’re a murderer and you’re sick as hell.
I mean to be fair, God could’ve magically cleared his head & made him feel better about it. That’s what I’d say happened if I was a Christian, anyway. Have you ever tried playing the devil’s advocate on behalf of Christianity? It’s kinda fun, honestly.
@@ts4gv So, god told Abraham to kill his son Isaac, and then he cleared Isaac's mind to either forget the incident or to make him feel better about almost being killed by his own father. What a righteous god.
I remember being taught this story in school. Even as a kid, all the time, I was waiting for the teacher or someone to point out how screwed up it is, and how it really only proves Abraham is nuts. They'd just go on how this showed his loyalty. My mother told me the exact same reaction, how she was taught that story, and she thought she would never kill her own children, not even for God. As in, not even when there's no doubt God is real and wants this. This is what started making me scrutinize the bible. Oh surprise, almost every single story in there is like that.
The Insane Psychopath Test! LMAO! Brilliant. I have always thought that passage in the OT was a bit of mental illness, but having it put like that is so perfect. It never comes up in conversation, but if that OT story about Abraham murdering his child ever does come up, I know how to describe it succinctly.
For the record, psychosis is delusions and halucinations, but phychopathy is feeling no remorse. They are similar words, and can manifest together, but actually mean very different things.
Actually nonstampcollector misreads the story and makes some crucial assumptions to change the appearance of Abraham's outlook. I made a short video response. Go to youtube and copy and paste the last half of the link below into your browser after the .com. /watch?v=NLjPSb3Okb8
Small problem with that is that it would still be murder which the same God that never changes later tells us is wrong... If God orders you to do something that directly contradicts what he told us in the Bible is he still the same God?
tahi laci Precisely. When I was a child, in the early 80s, I would sit there and wonder why the god of the bible had a split personality, due to the fact, that he wanted a man to kill his son, and then changed his mind. Seemed insane to me.
AlwaysThinkForYourself Yahooway wanted to make sure that Abraham would do anything for him. At that point, the brain of the christian stops. They don't go further. They think the story is about obedience and they stop there.
Currently in the middle of an epic NonStampCollector binge. Even sitting through the Bible study/religion ads between vids to make sure he gets paid handsomely for his work!
not really, most humans are kind people, in fact, they are even kind to the worst of us, which thus rise into power and wealth because they don't care about the people
@@sehr.geheim I sincerely disagree. At best, most of humanity gives lip service to empathy and wants to pretend they meet some high standard of morals, but their actions show a general apathy towards anyone they arent closely in contact with. Lack of action is as good as aiding the worst among us. Occasionally a leader rises that has inspired a positive move to offset the worst of our traits, and this leads to a huge outsized move of progress and good deeds, followed by generations of slowly back sliding and taking a good life for granted while ignoring the suffering of others because they are thousands of miles away. Suffering that could be ended with just a mild amount of sacrifice from the most secure portion of our species. Humanity is retched. The only saving grace is the occasional success of the very clever or the very ethical that occasionally rise to a leadership role. We currently have Putin bombing near a nuclear plant that would destroy the lives of millions of Russians as well as everyone else in the area. A "good" and reasonable response to this would be to see millioms of Russians literally march on the Kremlim and physicall remove Putin from office...but no..They cant even be bothered to safe gaurd their own lives. The risk to reward is within "acceptable" boundaries and laziness is the optimal choice. It's fucking disgusting.
Nonstampcollector, yours is my very favorite UA-cam channel. Nothing can ruin a day when I find you've posted a new video. Most of my friends are super religious, and I've reached a point where, unless they're actually trying to convert me again, I just don't say anything. Your videos, among other things celebrating sanity, are a breath of fresh air after hours of crazy.
Hello, my fellow non-believer, atheist, and agnostic. At this time, humanity has taken a step toward secularization. The increase of godless-minded people like us has had a significant impact on human civilization. We are now part of the major culture, beliefs, and traditions of every society in every nation. We carry the idealogy of the great mind that contributes to western and eastern philosophy, sharing a common belief and goal: ending lies upon lies of believers, the liberation of human belief and ethic, the desired of technological advancement, scientific discovery and renovation, and the improvement of human livelihood and prosperity. We want humanity to have a better future, to fix every problem, and to reunite the fractured world. We are the non-believers; people who act according to our developed beliefs, knowledge, and wisdom that we attain from our own lives; the selfless people we are willing to be compassionate without anything in return; and the great supporters of scientific practice and thinking, as well as economic development and implementation in our world.
Even before I saw this I always thought wouldn't it be a much better story if Abraham raises the knife, starts to cry and says do what you will to me Lord but I will not harm my son. Much better lesson and highly quotable line, I guess I'm better at writing the Bible than they are
Was the Abraham story a dry-run for the Jesus story? A loving father sacrifices his only begotten son to appease something and make possible a new covenant? Geez, the author of Mark was lazier than a modern day studio exec, recycling every old plot and story thread!
I used to be a Christian but through discussions and watching videos on UA-cam I ended up with the strength to finally admit to myself that I was no longer a believer. As a person who was literally brainwashed from birth to believe, I see many people have no idea how difficult it is to make the transition from having doubts to outright disbelief. The guilt and fear instilled in children is real and terrifying. Videos like these certainly make the transition easier and I'm thankful for them.
Its crazy how when you are told these stories as a child by people you thought you could trust you get it into your head that abraham about to murder his only son is somehow honorable
This... This is everything I ever opened for out of seeing the story told. I've talked to my friends about it before and we all had a real good laugh. Yep... God promised Abraham he'd give him a child. Then he told him to kill that child. That's insanity.
I’ve often thought that a movie about the people living during the time of Noah, just random people. (I know it says everyone was evil, but come on, that just can’t possibly be a thing.) Show them living their lives; maybe there’s some bad people too, but also show normal people. Falling in love, raising their kids, kids just being kids. Show people all over the world. People who have never even imagined that the Jewish people might exist. Show some cute animals too. People love dogs more than almost anything. Make the audience fall in love with these people. Care about them. In the background have some evil people. Half way through the movie, cut to Noah building the ark. Now the audience is dreading what they know is going to come. Now cut to god, he commands the rain to start. It has to come down at an absolutely unbelievable rate. It starts to crush everything it’s falling on because there’s just so much water. Show all the people we just fell in love with. The children. The pregnant women. Little babies. The cute little animals. Show people doing everything they can to protect each other, but failing. Show them being horribly killed. Don’t shy away from the absolute horror of it. Show the good people being killed with the bad. Show the trillions of creatures that were just murdered (including the fish whose environment was just ruined). Now there’s a choice. Either show what would really happen, the oceans boil away from the unbelievably amount of energy being added to the environment. Everything on the planet is destroyed. The ark got crushed to splinters by the initial deluge. Literally everything thing that isn’t a microbe living deep within the earth’s crust is dead. Alternatively, Noah and his family survive. Show them having to live with the horror of all of the dead carcasses and bodies. Show the damage to their psyches. How surviving it was almost worse than dying in it. Maybe even show the horrible consequences of all the inbreeding that must now occur. The deformities and the premature deaths. Show species after species going extinct. People don’t understand the real consequences of the stories they believe in. They’ve got these sanitized images in their mind. The cute little pictures of the giraffes sticking their necks out of the top of the ark that they put in children’s books. That’s not what the story is about. It’s about the extinction of life on earth, caused by a stupid deity that couldn’t think of anything better to deal with some behavior he didn’t like.
Ya, that's true. I don't like powerful entities that doesn't consider fragile creature that it create. If human have power, or magic, that can do extraordinary thing is horrible for all human existence. We can die or choose to fight back and kill them. It's good all of this and every fictional story made by us aren't true.
Before I watched this video, I was convinced that Abraham was one of the good guys. Now I realise that he was completely nuts and that his god is nuts too.
Wild that we tell this story to children. Fucking loved growing up believing that, if my parents were true Christians like they said, they would be willing to kill me if God asked them to. That didn’t give me any long lasting trauma. Absolutely not. 🙃
I enjoy these satires. I also enjoy debating Christians especially in a time that allows me the luxury not to get crucified on the very cross they seem to worship today (paradox). I sometimes imagine if Jesus looked down on them today whether he would even find it a symbol of faith to wear a cross which was a symbol of his death, and man's rejection of him.
I once asked my dad (who is a baptist pastor) when I was 14ish if he would abraham and isaac me if he thought god told him to. He legit looked me in the eye and said god wouldn't do that but if for some reason he did I would obey god.
I have a friend that's a Muslim, and their Sodom and Gommrah story ends with Lut(Lot) and his family leaving the city. I told him the rest of the story as it's told in the Bible...he shook his head and said "Jesus Christ, you guys *really* abuse your prophets!"
The bible is a man-made book with man-made wisdom (Kain and Abel) and man-made errors : + light wasn't there before the sun + the Earth wasn't there before the sun + Adam and Eve didn't exist + insects have six legs not four legs + homosexuality is not a seduction by a satan, but a natural born healthy sexual orientation with an evolutionary meaning + the "firmament" is not a solid "roof" over the world + the sun can’t be stopped for having longer light in a battle, it already stands still + etc etc If the bible would be the word of god or inspired by god it would be without errors, but it isn't.
It certainly is interesting that if you look up the quotes in the bible that are referenced in these video, you can really appreciate just how friggin insane it all is.
I think it must have been a typo. I was probably intending to put verse 17; "The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works." Sounds like a bunch of spin to me - especially when one considers that he sends wild animals to maul people to death and orders that humans treat each other with appalling cruelty (stonings, burnings, etc). I'll put a note in the description box.
I was raised in a Christian family, and I always found this story and the one where God kills the wife and children of a guy to see if he still beliefs, to give him the double of both (as replacements) particularly unhinged and sick.
What a lovely story... I remember first hearing it in Sunday school, where even with the spin they put on it I, prob about 7 at the time, found it quite disturbing. I was always a bit more weary of my pa and camping trips were never the same, for starters I refused to gather wood for the fire and stayed as far away from the pit as possible, hoping if pa got similar orders from above he'd select an easier target like one of my brothers.
As an ex-Muslim, I used to love the story of Joseph, it was the only story that showed compassion and love, even in the Quran. But the story of his great grandad (Abraham) was the most ridiculous to me.
The funny thing is that Christians defend this passage because God stepped in... but I'm so glad I saw your video on Jephthah, because I'd kind of forgotten that story... where the child WAS sacrificed.
This is in the future- 8/12/18~~~wooooo! Nah, just some chick that couldn't sleep and found this channel on a Sunday morn. Abraham about to kill Isaac was THE funniest thing I've ever seen. . . well, today. Tears were in my eyes. Gonna binge watch now until I get sleepy. Subbed like a mofo! PEACE
Imagine today if a father murdered his son and told the court that a voice in his head told him to do it, would he be let off because it may have been a god talking to him?, no, he'd probably be locked up for life as a psychopath.
@@alanthompson8515 or even just teaching them this evil doctrine of being born in sin and doomed to eternal torment unless they live a life of apology to an invisible man
I am always amazed by how non-religious people (atheists, agnostics, spiritual but not religious, deists, etc) actually know more about what is in the Bible than so-called "Bible Believing Christians."
The only excuse, that I've heard for this story, is that the Jews were going nuts and holding different human sacrifices (to different gods, probably). They wanted to stop the sacrificing and so, they come up with this story. Either way, this story is nuts.
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If someone told me that my descendants would be numerous if I kill my only son, I'd be a bit suspicious.
Hey. Just have faith. Your reward will be great.
+Clement Lee:
"Hey. Just have faith. Your reward will be great."
==No thank you. I don't want to kill anybody just because a self proclaimed god says so.
+wmfivethree:I don't know what you mean by self-proclaimed part. Please clarify.
wmfivethree I think they used to use dog years counting age in those days...
+wmfivethree:
"with no possible naturalistic explanation"
==I can give a naturalistic explanation. It is just ink on paper.
Anyone can grab a pen and write down whatever their imagination produces. With enough time and since these stories come from a time when humans were superstitious, they started to believe the stories as factual.
^^^^^^^^^^^There you go. A perfectly natural explanation. This sort of thing probably happened in every culture.
Why would an all knowing god need to test anyone?
beth98362 R Because He's an illogical, tyrannous psychopath. Well, He would be if He existed.
vmfivethree Thats an nice idea, but the feat of being omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent would allow you to ignore this problem all at once. This means he can do everything you can think of and even more. Because if he would not know what Abraham will do he is not omniscient.
Joschi But the same characters comtradict themselves and each other
beth98362 R Because the person being tested needs to acknowledge the extent of his faithfulness. That's like asking why the teacher tests her brightest student even though she knows he can do it
clip11 Why can't the teacher just tell the students how bright they are? Would they disbelieve the teacher?
Been an atheist for years, but these videos are slowly bringing me around to the idea of a bumbling raging God being barely held in check by his son and a massive workforce of angels who are 110% fed up with his shit.
110%? They're Angels, surely they can do better than that?
Are you suggesting Donald Trump is God? 🤣
Having read God's own propaganda material, Lucifer's side is both obvious and morally justified
MusicMetalHead: Now you know why there was a mutiny
"Lucifer's side" is literally a metaphor for anyone that goes against God's word. "You don't like what he said? Fine. Then you're banished to hell for eternity." Religious teachings are so damn transparent.
I don't even see why so-called good Christians preach this, even if it was a metaphor, the only lesson I can get out of it is this; "no matter how crazy or inhumane something sounds do it as long as God tells you to, he might somehow interfere and make it less inhumane".
I was mostly reminded about this at Sunday school when I was young in Nigeria, I was even afraid to question it and just concluded that it was justified, now that I'm older, more confident and smarter in a different environment I know better than to just go along with the story.
They don't read the Bible, they're stupid, or both.
Actually, I don't think they read the bible, because, as my favorite author, Isaac Asimov said, "Properly read, the bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
The entire purpose of the religion is to degrade mankind somehow. Thus sayeth the LORD your God: You shall spread apart thy butt cheeks and I shall display my glory by inserting my member.
I'm still in this country and it's even worse
as an american atheist in africa, one of the most distrubing things that has happened to African culture is the devout belief of this immoral book, without question.
"Why do people always want to bring facts into this?" - Religion 2018.
Christianity isn't about religion it's about a relationship with God.
AJ religion; noun. *the belief in and worship* of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
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_It's about a relationship with god._
"Translation:* _It's about religion._
Religion 2020 as well
more like “Religion ♾”
Isaac will need therapy after that, lots of therapy.
@Mrreciprocat I noticed that :O
Isaac can join job in the loony bin with ptsd.
And he’ll need tissue paper too. Lots of tissue paper.
no therapy can solve living with a father who did that.
Well no he wouldent he was only 6 months old at this alter of this ritual . But who are we to question Gods judgement he is just because man's heart is so wicked that we make up God's of other kinds rape women kill people and all the other stuff .
"...Well I ordered it, so that automatically means there must be some context in which it was perfectly good and righteous..."
Brilliant!
Sounds like it's coming right out of William Lane Craig's mouth
Must... kill... I... kill... this... God... very... happy
It's the best line I've heard in a long time. And those eyes:D
Except Abraham wasn't a homeless looking murder obsessed dumbass he was sad he had to kill his soon and his son accepted his death gracefully knowing he would soon be with god
@@paul-ye3ut Yeah that definitely didn't happen, if your own father tricked you into coming with to a secluded place an then tried to sacrifice you to god would you "gracefully accept your death" or would you frick the fuck out like a normal person? And if some voice in your head told you it was god and that you needed to kill your own son would you be like "yeah this checks out" or would you think you were going insane?
@@radekchrabota were not talking about me were talking about the Bible Abraham in the Bible was sad but he understood it was God's will and Isaac his son was taught God is good so he must have a good reason to want him dead so Isaac graceful accepted his death atleast thats how the Bible portrays it.
I don't know what I would do if I heard voices claiming to be God it depends on what there saying for me to do what they said
@Barney that happens allot when I was a kid I was a heavy Christian if a priest let me hear the voice of God and that voice was only in my head and it said give your asshole to him I would have done it and I wouldn't have called it rape thats how a cult works and that's how most organized religion is
@Barney i actually stopped talking to my brother because he was an atheist and I wanted to kill myself when I found out that there might not be a god of this world
It takes religion to get otherwise moral people to do terrible, immoral things.
wmfivethree
i mean, he did almost die. Imagine if a child almost died at the hands of his father. Just because the child lived, doesn’t mean that the father wasn’t doing a terrible, immoral thing.
Please stop justifying attempted murder just because your irrational god wants to both be punishing and loving/loved.
@wmfivethree Yeah, but God didn't stop Jepthah from killing his daughter and offering her as a burnt sacrifice, some translations may say otherwise but the original Hebrew version uses the word for "burnt offering"
@wmfivethree Have you read Jepthah, it doesn't have to do with Abraham's story or an interpretation of it, Jepthah promised to sacrifice whatever came out of his home first when he came back from war if god helped him. Then when his daughter came out (honestly what did he think would greet him) he got angry about having to kill her and took 2 months to do it because he really didn't want to, 2 months that God could have stopped this and at the end of those 2 months Jepthah kills his daughter and burns her. My point is that you can't say God is great because he prevented a human sacrifice he commanded, when he did nothing to intervene in a human sacrifice he commanded that took months to be performed.
@wmfivethree They made a deal that if God helped Jepthah then he would sacrifice a life to god, Jepthah didn't sacrifice her spontaneously, if God didn't want a human sacrifice then he wouldn't have helped Jepthah fight or could even have stopped Jepthah from fighting. God knew that Jepthah would kill his daughter because of their deal, could have stopped it but chose not to. Did God "shit" on Abraham for stopping him from killing Issac? Why are you trying to frame a man killing his child or the act of being complacent in this murder in a positive light, with your football analogy?
Edit: My answer to your question is, the one(s) who didn't kill their child(ren)
@@tiredtypes1260 God knew at what exact time to call his name and stop Abraham from killing him cuz God knows everything including the future. God knows what he is doing
I cannot give you high enough praise, oh non-stamp collector, than to say I’ve rewatched all your comedic jewels several times - they are always hilarious and, ironically, never “get old/dated”. One of THE most brilliant and entertaining UA-cam channels, bar none.
100% agree, found him just a few months after u posted this comment, and it really helped me realize just how crazy it is to believe the Bible lol
Yes the only critic I have here is just that there are too few videos!! I have been refreshing the channel every day to wait for new videos to pop up :'(
Damn straight.
@@kingofgrim4761 exactly 😂
Agreed I am here in 2024!
The story of Abraham is probably the keystone responsible, for my questioning religion.
How do you pick just one when there is a silly book full of reasons not to believe in the magic fairy in the sky.
Then you don’t understand the meaning of the story.
There were many in my case the main one being Job's story
Same, man.
@@mrcurly1147 Yeah but some of us were born into Christianity, or went to Christian elementary schools, where the stories were fed to us so frequently that they became reality. This story, though, managed to be so fucked up that even my indoctrinated brain couldn't tolerate it.
Gabriel is middle management who really should be promoted.
Exactly. Only an insane person, or a psychopath would attempt to kill his or her own child based on thinking that god told him or her to do it.
stevytube Some of these stories are simply cruel. Most stories have some kind of moral value, but killing an innocent is simply wrong.
How dare you call God insane!
Well he didn't kill his son (who was himself, to please himself) but he made it happen because he told himself too
Hackman: seriously, I don't know that "most" bible stories have some kind of moral value. I'd say most of them do NOT. Which is the opposite of what I was taught. But once I started reading it for myself, without first begging god to "bless it to my heart" or whatever, suddenly it became hideous. And weird. Very, very weird. Most of it is illegal today, immoral, unethical at the best...Working for 7 years to get a bride, then having her sister foisted off on you and having to work another 7 years? HOW IS THAT RIGHT? One story of thousands that show no decency at all.
@stevytube late but... i think thats the point of this stories inclusion in the text. It's a story of faithfulness to G-d that defies logic. It can and has been used to justify control and authority of the Church but idk even Jesus did like most church leaders very much. Accusing them of basically being more about power and money than salvation and the greater community.
I'd kill everyone I knew and burn down my house for God if he asked tbh. Heaven is the ultimate reward for the obedient.
Non Stamp, you need to write a script to be produced as a movie or tv series...I'll help you animate it if you'd like. These are pure genius, insightful, and an honest look at this archaic doctrine that is hindering the growth of our species. Fantastic job!
That would be nice.
Brilliant as usual. I could watch these all week (except during the sabbath, of course)
Marvelous Marv sda ?
You and Darkmatter2525 should produce a video together.
Stephen Bachman wait really?? You serious??
Stephen Bachman He DID comment on a recent Darkmatter video. He still uses his account.
I guess he burned out making these videos. Which is a shame. The world could always use more NonStampCollectors.
Michael Alexanders I would guess that he felt like he'd covered the pertinent arguments. After awhile you run the risk of treading the same ground over, and it wouldn't be nice to infringe on the apologists' shtick. :P
Aquarium 7512 holy shit yes
I had the same idea.
"Why do people always want to bring facts into this?" LMAO.
This is brilliant, the story of Abraham traumatises me. That a father would so willingly attempt to kill his son...and this is preached to children. Wake up people!
it is so horrible
IF GOD KNOWS EVERYTHING...THEN HE KNOWS THE RESULT OF THE TEST BEFORE HE GIVE THEM....SO WHAT THE POINT....POOR CHILD...JUST IMAGINE IF YOU ARE THE ONE LYING THERE....
I agree, but... why all caps?
God tested Abraham to see if he loved the lord more than his Son....
All of y'all read genesis.... Because y'all are going off by what this man or woman say. Don't let any man deceive you....
@@reneemerritt6572 Wait, God is alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, he's omniscient, powerful, he even made the pharaoh angry to not let the israelites leave egypt, God can control the human heart(mind), why can't he just see if Abraham truly loves him, why can't God just travel in time to see if Abraham would do it.
@@nbeshark2584 Well If God controls the heart is that messing with our free will? And what good is it for Abraham if God did not test him. Like Abraham love his son and God test him to see if he love God more than his son. Like If you say that you love Lord and do nothing to prove that you love the Lord. Like what the New Testament it say that you love the Lord and your character is not like him than you lied.
This video makes me sad and confused about everything I've ever been taught my entire life.
:-(
+Mr Epifany Research, my friend. Get your morals and facts straight. Peace.
that is alright. you are not alone. at least you can now think for yourself.
Really? Atheism is just a default position on the existence of god/gods. It does not "think" for you. You think critically for yourself. Unlike the Judeo-Christian tradition, you have set of dogmas you adhere to. The story of Abraham and Isaac is one of the most disgusting story ever if you really think about it. Abraham heard voices on his head and cut his foreskin then proceeded to murder his son as a sacrifice to the voice in his head. What we can really say about this is: blind faith can justify anything even the attempted slaughter of your own son.
+Nate Jay You seem to lack critical thinking skills.
+Jeffrey Dumaplin And faith led to the crucifixion of God's only begotten Son. There was a reason for Abraham, this isn't just some random act... And your "default position" is nothing more then appealing to ignorance. You weren't born believing in God? You weren't born in believing in anything.. Care to explain how that makes sense?
How much better a story would this have been had God rewarded Abraham for refusing to gut his own child just because he was told to?
I believe there is one version where he does, where Abraham finds the goat to sacrifice of his own agency. Earlier Abraham begs and confronts God not to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, that a just and good God would not do such a thing, so it fits in more with his character to refuse God later when God vindictively wants to punish said hubris by telling him to kill Isaac.
All these stories, even if you were to believe they happened, have been corrupted over thousands of years with different narrators, retellings, cultures, edits, agendas and translations that you’d have to be an irrational brainwashed idiot to believe it’s literally word for word true.
This is an extremely modern idea, post-dating 1945. You should look at Milgram's "Obedience to Authority" for this lesson, not to the Bible. This story is just saying "don't sacrifice your children anymore, God doesn't like it", because that was a common custom in ancient Canaan.
Excellent analysis
@@annaclarafenyo8185 Yeah, that was what I was taught, too. And now I'm looking at it and thinking, "Well, if he was a loving god, why did he do it in a way to cause emotional torture and an irreparable rift between Abraham and his son?" I'm not omniscient, and I can think of a few effective ways to get that message across without the torture part. Probably you could, too.
@@sundayoliver3147 This has nothing to do with God the concept. The Bible isn't the word of God, it's an ancient book which describes the idea of God. The idea is what is important, not the descriptions. This story is designed to END child sacrifice. And it doesn't matter what stupid out-of-character things that version of God says or does, what matters is "Did the story stop child sacrifice?" And the answer is "Yes", because child sacrifice disappeared from ancient Canaan.
I bet the angel who stopped Abraham from killing his son in Moriah was actually Gandalf
Ghost81 liar.
+Ghost81 In ancient Judaic tradition, it was actual Samael. You know, the devil. Makes you seriously rethink who the good guy is.
Actually his name was Moroniel...
Nah it was definitely Aslan
what? no! gandalf aint no angel, it was galadriel
And we wonder what the hell is wrong with people today...
+beka najm People are much better off today than they were when the church ran everything. Thank goodness for science.
5:57 “And if I broke a promise.. can you imagine?? I’d look.. Unethical or something!” THAT GOT ME
When i was a Christian the sunday school teacher put me in the corner for bringing up god's and Abraham's mental state in this story
Yep, you had to be sacrificed for disobeying, too.
I really wish I could have given that kid some kind of "Actually Moral" merit badge. Good on you. You should be proud of your young self. It drove me crazy to see kind, religious people nodding their heads to this madness.
@thecommiesalami
What .... they sent you to the corner?!
Why didn't they just give you the very simple and straightforward understanding of how it all makes sense. Oh, wait ....
thats fucking crazy
The poor boy... I bet he was traumatized for life! Even if his mind were to block out the horrid memories, he would still have a terrible relationship with his own father! One that lacked of love, trust, and maybe even a shortage of empathy for him! I was bullied and harassed back at my old christian school for about 4 years. It's been almost two years since I escaped, and I still have issues from it. I still have trouble trusting and socializing with boys (since it was mostly boys who harassed me) and making genuine friends (because my so-called "friends" watched me as I suffered, and they never did anything)! If some bullying and harassment is all it takes to cause trust issues, than poor little Isaac must have been scared for life!
Deep Sea Girl Abraham didn't lack love for his son. He thought it was crazy to do so... thinking about it logically. But he trusted NOT in his own understanding and trusted God's Word. He probably felt sorry that he was going to have to sacrifice his only son (at the time).
Issac lived and just as it was documented that Saul was inhabited by spirits and David played the lyre to release the spirits from Saul - Don't you think that Moses would have documented what happened in Issac's body?
Just food for thought. God bless. And I did read your comment and am sorry!
Joshua Wright Wow the fact that you try to justify this fathers actions, no way would he be able to trust his father ever again, also you fairytale God is dumb, what’s the point of the test when he already knows the answer, remember God is supposed to know everything.
Joshua Wright “But he trusted NOT in his own understanding and trusted God’s Word.” Sickening NONSENSE. Mental...illness. This is the kind of man that would commit a mass shooting on God’s command and not think twice because he heard god’s word. Really, what kind of a sadistic psychopath of a god would toy with one of his most devout followers in such a cruel and deceptive way? If you’re willing to follow through with such orders, regardless of if anybody stops you, you’re a murderer and you’re sick as hell.
I mean to be fair, God could’ve magically cleared his head & made him feel better about it. That’s what I’d say happened if I was a Christian, anyway.
Have you ever tried playing the devil’s advocate on behalf of Christianity? It’s kinda fun, honestly.
@@ts4gv So, god told Abraham to kill his son Isaac, and then he cleared Isaac's mind to either forget the incident or to make him feel better about almost being killed by his own father. What a righteous god.
I remember being taught this story in school. Even as a kid, all the time, I was waiting for the teacher or someone to point out how screwed up it is, and how it really only proves Abraham is nuts. They'd just go on how this showed his loyalty.
My mother told me the exact same reaction, how she was taught that story, and she thought she would never kill her own children, not even for God. As in, not even when there's no doubt God is real and wants this. This is what started making me scrutinize the bible. Oh surprise, almost every single story in there is like that.
"So humanity is now going to descend from a psychopath who obeys murderous voices in his head."
Everything makes perfect sense now.
Which one, Abraham or God? Because both seem equally viable for that description
@@ACW-dn9wb The real question is where the voices in God's Head are coming from.
@@albertskoften1452 Thats too scary to think about dude 😂, lol
@ACW-dn9wb Do you really need a distinction between the two? They were both characters created by men a few thousand years ago.
The Insane Psychopath Test! LMAO! Brilliant. I have always thought that passage in the OT was a bit of mental illness, but having it put like that is so perfect. It never comes up in conversation, but if that OT story about Abraham murdering his child ever does come up, I know how to describe it succinctly.
I actually learned about this story when I was still in a Catholic school. They treated it like it wasn't messed up or anything.
I was brought up a Catholic, but had never heard this story in church, only outside of it. I guess it was deemed too shocking for modern audiences
Probably it’s because they feared god if they use common sense on themselves…
For the record, psychosis is delusions and halucinations, but phychopathy is feeling no remorse. They are similar words, and can manifest together, but actually mean very different things.
in this case we'd have both
I have schizophrenia. Psychosis is not the same as psychopathy. I feel sad that the creator of the video has used the terms interchangeably :(
Finally someone who understands that Psychopathy is just lack of empathy..
THANK YOU
Actually nonstampcollector misreads the story and makes some crucial assumptions to change the appearance of Abraham's outlook. I made a short video response. Go to youtube and copy and paste the last half of the link below into your browser after the .com.
/watch?v=NLjPSb3Okb8
Small problem with that is that it would still be murder which the same God that never changes later tells us is wrong...
If God orders you to do something that directly contradicts what he told us in the Bible is he still the same God?
These videos are great! Thank you Nonstampcollector!
I love the angels in these vids
Yes...thank God for them
You mention god asking Abraham to "give up" his son.
Why do you not use the words "stab to death" and "burn"?
Sounds kinda sick, doesn't it.
NonStampCollector I love you and your Non Stamp collection
Because that just sounds too unethical...
He did NOT "stab and burn" his kid! What kind if monster do you think Abraham is!??? 😉
The point is you shouldn't do that anymore. That was a common custom in the region before this story's reform.
@@annaclarafenyo8185 smh
....wow.....Powerfully accurate. Christians really need to see these videos.
Or read the Bible, it says the same.
tahi laci
Yes but they see what they want to when they read it.
AlwaysThinkForYourself True, plus people usually leave out the gory bits.
tahi laci
Precisely. When I was a child, in the early 80s, I would sit there and wonder why the god of the bible had a split personality, due to the fact, that he wanted a man to kill his son, and then changed his mind. Seemed insane to me.
AlwaysThinkForYourself Yahooway wanted to make sure that Abraham would do anything for him. At that point, the brain of the christian stops. They don't go further. They think the story is about obedience and they stop there.
Currently in the middle of an epic NonStampCollector binge. Even sitting through the Bible study/religion ads between vids to make sure he gets paid handsomely for his work!
As a Christian, the "Ages, couple days" was a remarkably subtle but funny line
This Bible episode turned me into an atheist when I was 8 years old. I love this :) !
You were fortunate to have learned the truth so early in life, many aren’t.
"Humanity is going to decend from a psychopath..."
Maybe the bible is true. This would explain so much....
not really, most humans are kind people, in fact, they are even kind to the worst of us, which thus rise into power and wealth because they don't care about the people
@@sehr.geheim I sincerely disagree.
At best, most of humanity gives lip service to empathy and wants to pretend they meet some high standard of morals, but their actions show a general apathy towards anyone they arent closely in contact with. Lack of action is as good as aiding the worst among us.
Occasionally a leader rises that has inspired a positive move to offset the worst of our traits, and this leads to a huge outsized move of progress and good deeds, followed by generations of slowly back sliding and taking a good life for granted while ignoring the suffering of others because they are thousands of miles away. Suffering that could be ended with just a mild amount of sacrifice from the most secure portion of our species.
Humanity is retched. The only saving grace is the occasional success of the very clever or the very ethical that occasionally rise to a leadership role. We currently have Putin bombing near a nuclear plant that would destroy the lives of millions of Russians as well as everyone else in the area. A "good" and reasonable response to this would be to see millioms of Russians literally march on the Kremlim and physicall remove Putin from office...but no..They cant even be bothered to safe gaurd their own lives. The risk to reward is within "acceptable" boundaries and laziness is the optimal choice.
It's fucking disgusting.
Nonstampcollector, yours is my very favorite UA-cam channel. Nothing can ruin a day when I find you've posted a new video. Most of my friends are super religious, and I've reached a point where, unless they're actually trying to convert me again, I just don't say anything. Your videos, among other things celebrating sanity, are a breath of fresh air after hours of crazy.
Hello, my fellow non-believer, atheist, and agnostic. At this time, humanity has taken a step toward secularization. The increase of godless-minded people like us has had a significant impact on human civilization. We are now part of the major culture, beliefs, and traditions of every society in every nation. We carry the idealogy of the great mind that contributes to western and eastern philosophy, sharing a common belief and goal: ending lies upon lies of believers, the liberation of human belief and ethic, the desired of technological advancement, scientific discovery and renovation, and the improvement of human livelihood and prosperity. We want humanity to have a better future, to fix every problem, and to reunite the fractured world. We are the non-believers; people who act according to our developed beliefs, knowledge, and wisdom that we attain from our own lives; the selfless people we are willing to be compassionate without anything in return; and the great supporters of scientific practice and thinking, as well as economic development and implementation in our world.
Even before I saw this I always thought wouldn't it be a much better story if Abraham raises the knife, starts to cry and says do what you will to me Lord but I will not harm my son. Much better lesson and highly quotable line, I guess I'm better at writing the Bible than they are
Your version is I think better. HOWEVER, your version doesn't depict or promote absolute blind obedience to a magical force.
@@bradleyhandsonjoehallschro5419 yeah guess I kinda missed the point huh
So we can’t test God (Matthew 4:7) but he can test us… sounds like a loving relationship
That is the psychotic nature of the abrahamic religions(judaism, christian, and islam) . ;O)
Katalyzt
Was the Abraham story a dry-run for the Jesus story? A loving father sacrifices his only begotten son to appease something and make possible a new covenant?
Geez, the author of Mark was lazier than a modern day studio exec, recycling every old plot and story thread!
There is clearly a strong and deliberate link between the two stories.
This, is so perfect. It does a good job at elucidating why Gabriel stopped Abraham. Moreover, when I saw Abraham's face, I died in laughter.
I cant believe ive never seen this channel before. Its great
I used to be a Christian but through discussions and watching videos on UA-cam I ended up with the strength to finally admit to myself that I was no longer a believer. As a person who was literally brainwashed from birth to believe, I see many people have no idea how difficult it is to make the transition from having doubts to outright disbelief. The guilt and fear instilled in children is real and terrifying. Videos like these certainly make the transition easier and I'm thankful for them.
Hallelujah, a new video! God has answered my prayers!
must kill something! must kill something! XD
That's always been my bone of contention with this whole story-- Why would an omniscient being ever "TEST" anyone?
Exactly
Because this omniscient being is behaving exactly as if it were thought up by the mind of men who didn’t have any wisdom, but just wanted power.
“Why do people always want to bring facts into this?!”
Lol, priceless! 🤣🤣👌👌
Its crazy how when you are told these stories as a child by people you thought you could trust you get it into your head that abraham about to murder his only son is somehow honorable
That’s precisely how the evil of the Christian faith works.
i love these religious ads i keep getting on these videos
Abraham looks like he hasn't been getting much sleep...
This... This is everything I ever opened for out of seeing the story told. I've talked to my friends about it before and we all had a real good laugh. Yep... God promised Abraham he'd give him a child. Then he told him to kill that child. That's insanity.
I’ve often thought that a movie about the people living during the time of Noah, just random people. (I know it says everyone was evil, but come on, that just can’t possibly be a thing.)
Show them living their lives; maybe there’s some bad people too, but also show normal people. Falling in love, raising their kids, kids just being kids. Show people all over the world. People who have never even imagined that the Jewish people might exist.
Show some cute animals too. People love dogs more than almost anything.
Make the audience fall in love with these people. Care about them. In the background have some evil people. Half way through the movie, cut to Noah building the ark. Now the audience is dreading what they know is going to come.
Now cut to god, he commands the rain to start. It has to come down at an absolutely unbelievable rate. It starts to crush everything it’s falling on because there’s just so much water.
Show all the people we just fell in love with. The children. The pregnant women. Little babies. The cute little animals. Show people doing everything they can to protect each other, but failing. Show them being horribly killed. Don’t shy away from the absolute horror of it. Show the good people being killed with the bad. Show the trillions of creatures that were just murdered (including the fish whose environment was just ruined).
Now there’s a choice.
Either show what would really happen, the oceans boil away from the unbelievably amount of energy being added to the environment. Everything on the planet is destroyed. The ark got crushed to splinters by the initial deluge. Literally everything thing that isn’t a microbe living deep within the earth’s crust is dead.
Alternatively, Noah and his family survive. Show them having to live with the horror of all of the dead carcasses and bodies. Show the damage to their psyches. How surviving it was almost worse than dying in it. Maybe even show the horrible consequences of all the inbreeding that must now occur. The deformities and the premature deaths. Show species after species going extinct.
People don’t understand the real consequences of the stories they believe in. They’ve got these sanitized images in their mind. The cute little pictures of the giraffes sticking their necks out of the top of the ark that they put in children’s books. That’s not what the story is about. It’s about the extinction of life on earth, caused by a stupid deity that couldn’t think of anything better to deal with some behavior he didn’t like.
Ya, that's true. I don't like powerful entities that doesn't consider fragile creature that it create. If human have power, or magic, that can do extraordinary thing is horrible for all human existence. We can die or choose to fight back and kill them. It's good all of this and every fictional story made by us aren't true.
Lol well put, "I hate it when that happens"
so horrible
Before I watched this video, I was convinced that Abraham was one of the good guys.
Now I realise that he was completely nuts and that his god is nuts too.
I stumbled across another one of your comments, what are the chances
@@mr16325
Very high !
Nice detail how Isaac has shit his pants at 6:30.
Wild that we tell this story to children. Fucking loved growing up believing that, if my parents were true Christians like they said, they would be willing to kill me if God asked them to. That didn’t give me any long lasting trauma. Absolutely not. 🙃
This video is brilliant...
I enjoy these satires. I also enjoy debating Christians especially in a time that allows me the luxury not to get crucified on the very cross they seem to worship today (paradox). I sometimes imagine if Jesus looked down on them today whether he would even find it a symbol of faith to wear a cross which was a symbol of his death, and man's rejection of him.
I once asked my dad (who is a baptist pastor) when I was 14ish if he would abraham and isaac me if he thought god told him to. He legit looked me in the eye and said god wouldn't do that but if for some reason he did I would obey god.
It takes religion to make good people do horrible things
therapy Alexis, therapy
@@fidelluz2942 lmao I have had lots of therapy my childhood was a dumpster fire
I feel like there's not enough love for the Sodom and Gomorrah reference during the intro.
I would sleep with one eye opened for the rest of my life after that if I was Isaac
Keep an eye out for Selener (read: Yahweh and Abraham)
I have a friend that's a Muslim, and their Sodom and Gommrah story ends with Lut(Lot) and his family leaving the city. I told him the rest of the story as it's told in the Bible...he shook his head and said "Jesus Christ, you guys *really* abuse your prophets!"
Not to mention the abuse Lot's family got...including from him.
The bible is a man-made book with man-made wisdom (Kain and Abel) and man-made errors :
+ light wasn't there before the sun
+ the Earth wasn't there before the sun
+ Adam and Eve didn't exist
+ insects have six legs not four legs
+ homosexuality is not a seduction by a satan, but a natural born healthy sexual orientation with an evolutionary meaning
+ the "firmament" is not a solid "roof" over the world
+ the sun can’t be stopped for having longer light in a battle, it already stands still
+ etc etc
If the bible would be the word of god or inspired by god it would be without errors, but it isn't.
It certainly is interesting that if you look up the quotes in the bible that are referenced in these video, you can really appreciate just how friggin insane it all is.
I'm surprised Yahweh didn't respond "Yes?" when that angel said "Oh my god!"
I think it must have been a typo.
I was probably intending to put verse 17; "The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works." Sounds like a bunch of spin to me - especially when one considers that he sends wild animals to maul people to death and orders that humans treat each other with appalling cruelty (stonings, burnings, etc).
I'll put a note in the description box.
The fact I keep getting christian ads on these videos is so funny.
Every person who ever worked in a big company knows exactly and I mean EXACTLY how Gabriel feels.
I was raised in a Christian family, and I always found this story and the one where God kills the wife and children of a guy to see if he still beliefs, to give him the double of both (as replacements) particularly unhinged and sick.
An omniscient being who needs to test humans who cant test him back
What a lovely story... I remember first hearing it in Sunday school, where even with the spin they put on it I, prob about 7 at the time, found it quite disturbing. I was always a bit more weary of my pa and camping trips were never the same, for starters I refused to gather wood for the fire and stayed as far away from the pit as possible, hoping if pa got similar orders from above he'd select an easier target like one of my brothers.
Gabriel is my favorite character on this channel 😂😂😂
His respectful interactions with the Lord are hilarious 😂
I realized; to share this on my Facebook page would help me to thin out my "Friends" list substantially. It will save me all that trouble.
"Must Kill something"
"Must Kill something"
🤣🤣🤣👌
As an ex-Muslim, I used to love the story of Joseph, it was the only story that showed compassion and love, even in the Quran.
But the story of his great grandad (Abraham) was the most ridiculous to me.
As an Ex Christ i felt the same.
The script's quality is on the par with The Simpsons, Family Guy etc.. Simply outstanding.
The funny thing is that Christians defend this passage because God stepped in... but I'm so glad I saw your video on Jephthah, because I'd kind of forgotten that story... where the child WAS sacrificed.
Most dangerous cult .
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Isaac shat himself!
the attention to details :D
I swear, I'm really watching this as comedy, and it's amazing 😂
That must have been some awkward walk back home.
This story traumatised me as a kid.
These videos are stunningly accurate!
Curious how he needs to test people and forgets things sometimes, and is all knowing other times
This is so well done!!! I haven't laughed this hard in a while!
Getting a bible study ad before the video is the funniest stuff ever
Inspiring story! Do you think God will do for me what he did for Abraham if I kill one of my children, or better still two or three?
This is in the future- 8/12/18~~~wooooo! Nah, just some chick that couldn't sleep and found this channel on a Sunday morn. Abraham about to kill Isaac was THE funniest thing I've ever seen. . . well, today. Tears were in my eyes. Gonna binge watch now until I get sleepy. Subbed like a mofo! PEACE
Imagine today if a father murdered his son and told the court that a voice in his head told him to do it, would he be let off because it may have been a god talking to him?, no, he'd probably be locked up for life as a psychopath.
Still happens an unsettling amount in the US.
@@fearandloathing9976 Hi. Especially indirectly, when parents deny blood transfusions to their sick kids.
@@alanthompson8515 or even just teaching them this evil doctrine of being born in sin and doomed to eternal torment unless they live a life of apology to an invisible man
@@fearandloathing9976 Mental AND physical abuse.
Yeah he'd be persecuted.
Damned war gods. And these people made a cult out of it.
The wise man professes that he does not know everything. I am glad there is much more for me to learn.
This is the one video where I didn't think to see any comments from religious people... Nope! Somehow they can either justify or ignore this.
You know, the little green angel reminds me of Jeffery from DarkMatter2525's channel... They're both so cute and sweet!
I am always amazed by how non-religious people (atheists, agnostics, spiritual but not religious, deists, etc) actually know more about what is in the Bible than so-called "Bible Believing Christians."
Abraham was Issac's father and uncle at the same time.
The only excuse, that I've heard for this story, is that the Jews were going nuts and holding different human sacrifices (to different gods, probably). They wanted to stop the sacrificing and so, they come up with this story. Either way, this story is nuts.