How To Drive It Like A Pro: Arm Depth
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
- How deep the arms get in the backswing is a good indicator of how well you can manage to play on plane in the downswing. But it comes with a caveat...
When you get your arms deep, and how you get them deep makes all the difference. Do it too early, and you're in trouble. Sacrifice one key element for depth, and you're in trouble.
In this video, we'll show you the proper "when" and how to use that key element to get your downswing started on the right path!
![[TOUR LIKE BACKSWING] Move Your Right Arm Like THIS 🏌️♂️](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/YRnSaeAZ9Kw/mqdefault.jpg)
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You guys are consistently putting out some of the best stuff out there. Things that are actually true about the golf swing. Love it 👍
Thanks, buddy!
acting like you know how to swing a clu..... oh wait it's Luke
Thank you for this whole series, been really struggling with the driver and your instructional series is far and away the most helpful and easy to understand out of everything out there on youtube.
Great video. After watching this video, I started to practice swinging my arms down to get them from being pinned on my chest. The results were amazing. I discovered the only way I could do this was to keep my arms (and chest muscles) relaxed as I used to tighten them up which locked my arms against my chest and really slowed my arm speed down. This has taken away the "hit" from the top out of my downswing. I'm now hitting the ball longer and straighter... having MORE FUN!!!! Thanks
Love that awareness, Rich! You just touched on one of the biggest "secrets" in the swing. Because of the traditional down the line camera angle, it looks like every good golfer is throwing their left arm across their chest - THAT IS NOT HAPPENING, and you just learned why💪👏
That's a good one. Didn't realize the arm position at swing top. Just did some dry swings in front of mirror and high top really makes it easier to come down shallow. Gonna work in this at range tomorrow. Thanks guys
Hi - great stuff. Can you do a video on what drills to get your left arm to start unpinning from the chest in the downswing ? Thanks
That's eye opening. Thanks for posting, Mike.
thanks 2 ur videos, i now understand da importance of Adduction angle backswing 👍😁🏌️♂️🤸♀️⛳🏋️♂️
thanks for watching!
Great content! Thank you guys!
Thanks buddy🙏
That might be your best video yet. Brilliant. Thank you.
Thanks for watching, Steven!
AMG is number 1, your images replace a thousand words. Great narration you almost feel the swing. Recall comment by Harvey Pennick how many golfers know what an ideal golf swing should feel like accompanied by simple drill to get that feeling.
Wow thanks for the kind words, Keith!
Great stuff as usual boys. Keep it coming.
Thanks dbcane
So good! 👍
Yep fixed it
wow, what a great channel. thanks for the content.
Thanks for taking the time to watch, Greg!
Kool!!!!
You do the same thing at the left elbow please
We've done a Pros vs Ams on the left elbow👍
i am gonna work on this today make perfect sense
Love this stuff, completely different angle from other teaching stuff. I've had too deep hands which causes inside and across the line. This really does get to the root of that. Not being pinned at the top also helps to stop the need of finding that 'end of swing' position which can cause overswinging and then getting steep on the way down.
More difference between perception/reality in golf instruction - again! 👏
High hands in this swing, but I suppose there is a corridor to allow lower hand position?
absolutely
Yep solved it
what an awesome video. makes things so clear. do you have any videos explaining the sequence from transition to impact to make the lead shoulder work this way and the angle you're showing here work this way? thanks!!
These would probably be the closest:
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ua-cam.com/video/4Y0YQvu-7mo/v-deo.html
Great video and clarifies the ‘arms in front’ issue. Is there any correlation with the speed of the shoulder turn in the downswing with clubhead speed I.e. a fast shoulder turn creates a faster clubhead speed? The pros appear to have a slow controlled downswing shoulder turn that creates a high club head speed/longer distance? Keep up the great work.
Not from the studies we've seen, Brian. Thanks for watching👍
The backswing model shown was a very steep backswing. I’m working with an arm swing matching shoulder plane as the steepest point to feel more connected.
Not sure of your definition of steep, but this pro’s backswing is most definitely not steep.
Left arm is nearly coming into the ear and a flying right elbow. This late depth is a game changer for me.
@@raymoundsawyer6137 gotcha. The club is what dictates a steep or shallow backswing/downswing. Be careful looking for depth with the arms, that’s your body’s job 👍
@@AthleticMotionGolf ok I hear you just how high his hands are at the top and the flying elbow indicates steepness for me. We all know the pros have different styles of course. Thanks!
Great video. Would this concept change any for iron shots? Also, when you guys talk about keeping the lead shoulder down longer with iron shots, would that concept also apply to the driver? And should the forearm rotation be similar between iron and driver. Shaun has a video on his channel from 2016 about differences between iron and driver. But I am looking for more nuanced differences in the takeaway and downswing that what he has in that video. Thanks!
Thanks for watching, Gojeh. Yes on the first 2 questions. Similar but not exactly the same forearm rotation. Driver swing is typically a bigger move with more range of motion.
You guys are great! I would only question the depth of your pro sampling.....how many pros do you look at before you select a sample for the demonstration?
Again....love your analysis.
Fred Couples is an example of a pro that gets the club UP quickly....to your point.
Question: Isnt the left arm "levered" off the chest? Does not the torso turn fling the left arm in a leveraged connected fashion giving it speed? IT may then 'regain' the abduction angle prior to impact as the torso slows and the lead arm propels into the ball?
Thanks, B, and good questions. At last count a few months back, the pros in our database have won over $350,000,000 on Tour. Here are the arm depts of the top 9 in the world going into this years Open Championship:
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Impressive
Thanks
Very informative as always. My main struggle when trying to preserve some angle between chest and left arm rather than 'pinning it' is feeling very steep and outside. I end up chopping down and across and hitting really weak, wide push slices with the driver (I hit draws with my normal swing). Anything I might be getting wrong when trying to implement this swing thought?
Check that your hand path is working down enough from the top rather than out.
Thanks, will give it a try.
When you say left arm off the chest, do you mean going target direction?
That top position is a lot like Jack Nicklaus, and Jack was a pretty good player LOL.
He was pretty solid, lol
Nicklaus was upright but across the line. I don’t think this is Nicklaus
So the body is almost rotating back and through independently from the arms? The arms need to operate on their own? The only thing that gets “passed” to the arms is speed?
They move at different speeds and different planes than the shoulders. Feel is one thing, but actually keeping them connected is bad news.
Can we see a video on the best methods to pitch the club up? Thanks, Ted
We're working on those Ted
To connect this to your video about over rotation of the hips by Ams in the backswing (and then needing a ton of rotation in the quarter-second downswing to get 25-30* open on the downswing), wouldn’t someone need tremendous thoracic flexibility to get the club over the heels and not need to massively open the hips in the backswing?
A+
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The animation shows very differently, the left arm is pinned across the chest and the hands appear to the right of the right shoulder. The angle you show at 5:59 is between the right shoulder and left arm. The shoulders can move quiet a bit in relation to the chest. Already at the start I see a lateral shift of the hands in relation to the chest.
That's why we show the numbers. The left arm is not pinned in the data or graphics, and the angle shown is between the upper left arm and spine. We aren't comparing hands to right shoulder.
Thank you! Your videos have really helped square up my irons and make them very solid, but for some reason my driver is still staying considerably right. Any idea why i might be able to keep my irons super straight or even slightly left while my drive suffers a curve to the right? Not just a right direction. Thanks!
Sons of War you need to start squaring the face from the very top. I was in the same spot as you are.
Jack Nicklaus said that you can’t release the club too soon. He was right!
Álvaro Ybáñez yeah I think I agree with you, I tried that some time ago and it did seem to work, just felt like I was losing a bit of distance, however that was prior to AMG helping improve my game! I'll have to try again now.
That's good advice from Alvaro and the first place I'd start👍
Left shoulder cover eyes need to raise that chin at top .
Ha just the graphics, Paul... promise he doesn't cover his face in real swing, lol
You have a newer video where you state that the hands never move past the shoulder.
Depth from this DTL view is a factor of rotation. The camera does not move with the shoulder turn so you cannot see where the hands are relative to the shoulder. We also don’t say the “hands never move past the shoulder.” We use the lead wrist/watch for reference.
Can I assume that despite the fact this model looks notjing like any player on tour - the actual data GEARS spits out is what's important - not the rendering of the player model?
The most common thing we hear the tour guys say when we're capturing their swing is "Yep, that's my swing." It's not photo realistic for sure, but the underlying movements are represented fairly well (except for maybe a few waist sizes lol). We've been told that to get the animation to match the quality of the data (think video game realistic) would be several a several million dollar investment. We are taking donations😊
@@AthleticMotionGolf Yeah agree the motions are great - to clarify it was more the head & neck and it's relationship to the left arm going up - see the section at 3:54
Every single person golfer has a different backswing yet knows how to end up at the ball. That proves that there is no correct way to take the club back. Just whatever it takes to end up at a good impact position. From my research most people get the weight shift wrong. There is no weight shift. Just a pressure shift. Just feel like you're leaning towards your target during the backswing and away from your target at impact and although it feels weird this will fix a lot of contact issues. Like a baseball pitcher who actually is leaning forward on their way back.
Confusion galore! Don’t keep arm pinned against chest keep glove under arm pit during swing (Vijay) where next? Lead arm match shoulder line on some pro’s. Your guy almost covers his eyes, arm to high...
Les Simmo- Mcilroy also does the glove under left arm pit drill. Feel like getting a new hoby, maybe rocket science. Less confusing .
but what about at left arm parallell (P3?) you dont want the hands to be too far back or deep then right? What will happen with the swing if it does? steep coming down?
99,9 % of golfers cant do this because they dont stretch and train like a pro..
And that's fine because though it might help it's not necessary. There are many different shape golfers and no one in the old days exercised in any way. They just pounded golf balls till they figured it out. Which is why there used to be style and interesting golf swings. Now everyone looks like a damn robot.
..could't you bother to show the whole swing...